Can Minnesota Vikings defense CARRY them to a Super Bowl?

[@hornfan2848]

The only thing that concerns me is our offensive line. It has looked worse since around the Titans game. It affects our run game, therefore our time of possession, which will affect our defense. Throwing for large chunks puts our defense on the field faster and I feel they get worn down in the 4th quarter.

[@MrRocky27271]

i heard this same conversation at my son's last Cub Scout meeting.

[@blomborg6120]

It’s official: I am completely ready to let it all hang out this year and let myself be opened to getting hurt again in this emotionally toxic/emotionally unavailable relationship that I have with the Minnesota Vikings.

[@TDiggz]

I think the uncertainty with BFlo coming back or not plays a big part in what they do with Darnold and how big their Superbowl window is.

[@heinzbucksandcastle2053]

For those who believe in Darnold we can call it Non-McCarthyism.

[@amcoldagelli]

The show is hard to watch without you Mackey

[@heinzbucksandcastle2053]

Sack Love, catch his throw up lobs and quiet down those pretenders in cheese

[@Jeff_Seattle]

I want to make sure you guys understand that we acquired all of the defensive players currently on the roster while working around $70M in dead cap that goes away after this year? So, if we pay Sam $50 million next year we still have $20M more cap room than we had this year? You get that, right?

[@joshuat7171]

We have a bunch of dudes in line for raises. A fair amount of our extra cap space will be ate up by current players. We won’t have as much to spend as you think

[@HumanDad1977]

Our defense instead of past bend don’t break is now bend but break them

[@lloydpearson2138]

Phil your paranoia flys in the face of the premise of this show. You want the Vikings to win a SuperBowl before you die, but when the Vikings get this close you pull out the old Viking paranoia. The 2024 Vikings are not the Vikings of old! SKOL Vikings!!

[@rosssivertson6339]

People said the same thing with the 2022 team

[@BoHorn]

Being paranoid about the other shoe falling doesnt mean he wants them to not win a ring.

[@anthonyleydens]

If Mccarthy starts all 17 he will get over 4000 yds and 32 td or more. People forget the team will be more stacked

[@yolo25000]

Is this Thor???😂

[@newdaddio5629]

That's a tall ask from a rookie that didn't throw a lot in college.

[@TheWarnberg]

How do you know that’s going to happen? The level of Sam’s play this year is not just a given

[@jiordone8563]

really? Odds are McCarthy will be very mediocre in his first year.

[@anthonyleydens]

@jiordone8563 save this post. Jj will be over 4k and over 32 td. Write it down. Mccarthy has talent, strong arm and it isn't his rookie season. It's season two. He's been marinating in greatness all year.

[@BigGW9580]

Poor Decklin has become obsessed with picking and fussing with his nose when the cameras are rolling. When he is not picking for gold he is trying to quietly working his fingers to the bugger zone. I don’t think the mustache is helping any with that psychological non stop itch.

[@mdiggler]

Only casuals want us to bring back Danold. We said at the beginning of the season that even if he balls out, we are moving on to the rookie QB structure. I'm just glad the reactionary fanbase is not in charge of these decisions.

[@djangorestraind596]

THIS. more casuals need to understand this. They just see what's in front of them and think that's the route we should go

[@joeyvalure]

Nobody in their right mind saw Darnold doing what he’s doing tho trust me I was 100% on the JJ boat. But as this season goes on there’s no way you can’t at least question bringing this guy back

[@djangorestraind596]

​@joeyvalure bottom line is sam isn't signing a 1 year deal. And vikes aren't giving him a multi year deal. So he's gone

[@mdiggler]

​@joeyvalure We weren't gonna bring him back thinking he'd be paid as a mid/low tier starter, so now we should consider bringing him back that his value has SKYROCKETED? It makes zero sense. Stick to the plan.

[@danielvansteenwyk493]

All about the $. Darnold back in 2025 is possible

[@johnmuehlbauer]

Just getting to this PD episode but love the overall thought process behind the QB rehab discussion. In that context and in the off-season, I'd love to see another episode dedicated to the subject with an added KOC "caveat" of those most likely to relapse . . . And therefore, rejected entry into the Whispering Winds QB Clinic. What say you boys? Is that too not PC in this day and age? Or can we let go and say WTF . . . Let's do it? 🤔

[@jdb6215]

The boys are all back! Happy holidays yall, thank you Judd for holding the fort down

[@MattChinander]

Would the fort have floated away?

[@nortonbrandon6176]

On the roster,, I think they have 28 players that will be free agents. 2025 will probably need 2 or 3 corners, a DT, a Right guard, a safety, a center and depth fillers. With like 4 draft picks. I think they need the extra cap to fill all these roles and keep a Superbowl contender roster. I have extremely enjoyed Sam. ...but I think if they bring him back he will thrive again, but the team will suffer more. Say like a 10 win team...instead of a 14 win team.

[@jaredpribyl]

lol Judd how can u argue against running it back in 2010? Horrible take. So we should have cut Farve after that? Cmon…he deserved one more year. Anybody can play captain hindsight

[@mikebrown1142]

If your a long time Viking fan you know all outcomes are on the table...You also know Ultimately you're going to be disappointed, It's just a matter of how they gut you!

[@DavidTate-do8xy]

Where is the positivity. I believe we got this all the way!!

[@austinstewart5814]

What are your guys thoughts if the Vikings get Ashton Jeanty in the first round? I think he would play a huge role on the Vikings offense

[@vikwillwin]

I've watched Minnesota try to replace Tarkington for 40 years Sam is the best we have ever had , Please don't let him walk because we made a mistake on Cousins !!!!!!!!!

[@kevinolesen2429]

How in the heck are the 13-2 Vikings AT HOME be underdogs to the visitor Pack?! Gambling is dumb.

[@AdamWheeler59]

Gambling is VERY dumb, and its recent broad acceptance has done damage to the game.

[@BoHorn]

A good chunk of understanding these betting lines is knowing that vegas moves lines to get money on both sides for their profit. Betting odds are not a prediction from vegas and often arent even a prediction from fans, its an offer.

[@clintonreisig]

A second half Defense feels good

[@smarleyjoe3569]

Have to do what is best for Team and not what is best students for KOC to teach and turn BACK loose to another team with all the MV concept system knowledge.

[@YOURM0TH3R-]

I’m tired of the Darnold hate. Right now everyone is blaming his success on KOC and I don’t disagree that KOC is amazing and a quarterback whisperer but if he’s so amazing why didn’t Josh Dobbs or Nick Mullens work out better? And if that’s on the qbs then why isn’t Darnold getting more respect for what he’s getting done?

[@PackerBacker911]

I'm starting to wonder if my Packers aren't faking injury again. Saving guys for the playoffs and as a built in excuse if we get swept by the Lions and the Vikings.

[@djangorestraind596]

No way that's a thing. You ever gona anything good to say about your team?

[@PackerBacker911]

@@djangorestraind596 Saving players while getting them healthy for the playoffs is a thing. We've had season tickets in our family for 40 years, but I don't always agree with what they are doing.

[@djangorestraind596]

​@PackerBacker911 been a fan for that long but I've yet to see you compliment the pack. Just strange

[@PackerBacker911]

@@djangorestraind596 You must not have read my posts where I compliment Lafleur, Jacobs, McManus, and some of the new defensive additions. By the way, how's your guy Caleb Williams doing?

[@djangorestraind596]

​@PackerBacker911 caleb aint my guy lol. I just said he's a good qb surround by dogshit. I'd love for caleb to be a bust but it won't be the case. He caught fire against the vikes in Chicago. Hell be good

[@JarellWhitehead]

It’s week 17 no team has steam rolled us fellas if we win or lose from here on out it will be close/4th quarter games no team will blow us out

[@collinlarson9465]

I’m sick of the same darnold contract talk. We talk about it so much like we’re figure if it out ourselves. Let the season be and then trust in O’Connell and kwesi to make the best decision. There, all the talk should be over now.

[@skolsota5068]

I am sports dad old. Plz stop comparing a in his prime QB to late stage Favre and Cunningham. Plz take note that as an old guy, we may not see another QB play at the level Sam is, and ya'll want to let him go. It's insane in a way only a MN fan base can be. Any other team is signing him.

[@anthonyd4309]

Can I get a Trevor Lawrence rehab?

[@CrudPig12]

Could we lose the next 3 games? Sure, it is a realistic possibility. I don't know why Mackey is predicting they might get blown out though. How many games under KOC has a team blown us out?

[@YOURM0TH3R-]

I’m tired of the Darnold hate. I don’t disagree that KOC is amazing and a quarterback whisperer but if he’s so amazing why didn’t Josh Dobbs or Nick Mullens work out better? And if that’s on the qbs then why isn’t Darnold getting more respect for what he’s getting done?

[@trevorm3181]

Jaire sucks. Stop hyping him up. He had 1 good game vs Jets when Vikings were slipping all over the field with the wrong cleats!!

[@DMJ160]

If the Vikings lose Sunday? That stach has got to go Declan.

[@MickSchanilec]

Bud statue is prerequisite to winning one before we all die!

[@dereckcarlson7092]

I think if we franchise darnold, I think we should use the trade for the draft and pick up Ashton jeanty. We need a runing back

[@misterdizzle9886]

Why are we so afraid of the Packers? Tell me a good team they have beaten, and at full strength? Those stats we speak of are mostly against bad teams.

[@jaredpribyl]

@@misterdizzle9886 ya I’m definitely not. Of course they are a good team, but they aren’t better than Minnesota, especially with both Pace and Cashman playing. Run defense and blitz just got way better with Pace back.

[@OliverPantsoff]

i don't know many real vikings fans that are afraid of the packers

[@lynnkirk396]

macky if you dont have anything nice to say don't say nothing at all. keep positive but don't get over hyped

[@rosssivertson6339]

If Darnold doesnt go for the big payday then yeah but if you have to outbid to keep him then there goes the money to bring in other pieces like we just did this season. Darnold is having a good year but I dont see him as a QB that carries a team like Burrow or Maholmes. If your spending on a QB thats what they need to be

[@anthonyschuster6403]

tag himn and get draft pick for him

[@jakejohnson5563]

Right decision, not so sure. Wrong player, positively.

[@donnydudzinski2019]

why anyone ever thought Cousins was going to be the answer is beyond me. I never wanted him in MN

[@tinamdobson]

Im not surprised. The ONLY reason it moved to the pack is because of the Pack's game against the practice squad. This isn't the first time that the money was on the other team and we won. So it doesn't worry me. Mackey needs to STOP with the negativity (and I've been a fan since the 80s). I think it's a ridiculous take, honestly Some fans and podcasters need to go to therapy. Changing culture is about more than just feel-good stuff. Part of the reason we got our heart broken in the past was due to coaching and the team not truly believing they belonged there. It felt like luck. This team feels different and they absolutely believe they deserve to be there.

[@jaredpribyl]

@@tinamdobson Vikings have been undervalued every single game this year by Vegas. No biggy. Thats why Vikings have been one of the best teams to bet all year.

[@Valkyrie-p7y]

98 team had almost as much swagger as the 85 Bears and look what happened!

[@jaredpribyl]

@ Any given Sunday! Just like the best team ever, the 2007 Patriots, that lost in the Super Bowl. The best team doesn’t always win it all. That dang football can bounce goofy

[@tinamdobson]

@@Valkyrie-p7y It's not just about swagger though. It's the whole package.

[@Valkyrie-p7y]

@ yeah We all found that out in 98 and 09

[@coachfrazier1451]

Sports dad FTW!

[@StephenJelinek]

JJ needs to take the QB position away from Sam. If he can’t win it in the preseason. He needs to sit season 2.

[@robertlematta6934]

The hardest thing would be to play the Bills in the SB and lose then we would be 0-5. Worst team ever. I am a ranger I lived through the losses you guys haven't felt the pain of a SB loss yet.

[@SammySarzoza]

With the Refs on the side of Kansas City, no defense could prevail. The league is so in the bag for KC, it's sickening. Never been this bad even with NE.

[@Genniboi]

Yes it was specially when they was in their dynasty phase

[@franknorth164]

Judd, I am older than you and you conveniently left out Sidney Rice their number one receiver took 2010 off to get the bag in 2011.

[@rosssivertson6339]

Rice had an injury he never fully came back from

[@franknorth164]

@@rosssivertson6339 He could have come back, his agent made a business decision.

[@rosssivertson6339]

@@franknorth164 I mean that he was never the same player after the injury

[@franknorth164]

Why are we assuming Sam gets the bag?

[@HumanDad1977]

McCarthy will be fine because Darnold will sign a 3-4 year 120-150 million dollar contract and not be as good as he was here. I’m not saying he will flop but he won’t be like he is in this system.

[@jimjenkins7146]

If the Vikings were to resign Darnold I would fully expect better numbers in year two. That being said we should move to the McCarthy era in 2025.

[@jiordone8563]

why? Isn't the idea supposed to be to get a franchise QB? If Darnold plays better next year, he's definitely a franchise QB with many seasons left to play so why would you even take a chance on an unproven young QB?

[@CrudPig12]

​@@jiordone8563he's played good, but I haven't seen enough from Darnold that screams franchise QB. What if they re-sign him and he doesn't get better? Or regresses? Fans are already complaining about the oline, DT, cbs, and other roster spots. They'll have a hard time upgrading/maintaining those positions and have decent depth with a $40+ mil non elite QB contract to deal with.

[@lynnkirk396]

our team is going to succead!!!

[@DanTheMan4Life1]

All the Vikings have to do is win the next 5 games & we’d be SB champs! Don’t let negativity hold this team back

[@jakejohnson5563]

The Vikings had the ball deep in their own end with time running out in the first half, up 20-7. The time to take a knee, would've been then. Cunningham was stripped with that long wind up of his, Falcons recovered and punched it in, down only 6. I remember hearing a pin drop.

[@trevorlee7945]

Cunningham was clearly off that day but that games was a Clinique on how NOT to win a game Strip sack before half allows Falcons to regain hope , Dropped interceptions , missed Field Goal " he was roughed on the kick " and my personal top reason Robert Smith ran out of bounds saving at the least 40 seconds that allowed the Falcons time to score and send the game to OT . The knee wasn't as high on my radar but it was gutless of Green for sure but the strip sack was probably still in his head .

[@ryanowen8820]

I mean wtf does a team gotta do to show you they got it. Packers are getting their asses kicked. The fact the Packers are favored is a joke. Its different. Youve seen it all year.

[@firesabers]

I'm going to laugh if more key Lions get hurt on Monday night if the game is meaningless.....

[@OliverPantsoff]

i'm already laughing but i will join you and laugh even harder

[@Lovepeacefreedom1978]

Sign trade Darnold. You can get a 1 and 2 or 1and 3. Look at Sam Bradford, Brad Johnson, Carson Wentz, Trey "failure"Lance. You are massively underestimating his value. With that grab a DT and 2 OL. Better line, better running game, sustained drives, long term success.

[@daryl4118]

Where’s the snake draft 😢

[@anthonyschuster6403]

NO that was Dennis Green take the knee

[@kareemabduljacandybar4558]

the defense is solid but its not going to carry them to the superbowl, the offense is going to have to be firing on all cylinders. thats whats going to carry them to the superbowl.

[@Valkyrie-p7y]

We’ll all see the Vikings true defense Sunday afternoon. Hopefully it’s the first half defense from the last Packers game and NOT the second half defense

[@rosssivertson6339]

Remember Love was playing hurt and rusty in that game and he still almost came back to win

[@Zippezip]

Bud Grant

[@Hooch-A-Colada]

Phil's right about Lions resting players last game of the season. Just look at Raiders when Jack Del Rio was coach. He kept Derek Carr in a menaingless game when he broke his leg. Carr has never been the same since.

[@MrDoodah]

Why does everyone talk about Jacobs like he’s a monster RB? I think the Packers will be humbled this weekend.

[@mdiggler]

Yeah like he's prime Henry or something. It's wild.

[@OliverPantsoff]

everyone talks about jacobs being a monster rb so they don't have to talk about how love is mid

[@djangorestraind596]

Hes good but he's just a bell cow. He's not like saquon or anything

[@yolo25000]

​@@OliverPantsoffBacks like Jacobs will LOOK like Derrick Henry against teams that are small and not great tacklers. The Vikings do a lot of hit/no wrap up, even Harrison Smith does this WAY too often.

[@OliverPantsoff]

@@yolo25000 what does that have do with anything i said...pay attention next time

[@mntwins28]

Sorry but Packers have no business being favored. We've won 8 straight, 1 loss at home, top 5 defense. Who have the Pack beaten? Not to mention we beat them already, and Jaire is dodging Jettas and JA again Vikings by 14

[@mdiggler]

They smoked two whatever teams in a row and everyone thinks they are unstoppable. Kinda feels like that Vikings playoff game against the Cowboys.

[@Stiff_Richards]

Mackey ALWAYS mentions time zone changes and it makes a CRINGE like bro who tf cares lmao

[@darkexp.4819]

Vikings fans got used to the one hit wonder lol.

[@krim1524]

The defense isn't anything special so no, they can't carry

[@AnthonyDemarco-y8u]

Jj in 25

[@johnrock6480]

Judd the Mule. lol

[@Centralcoastagliving]

Phil “may have won their last game” take is so gutless!! Take your AG1 and 🥜 ⬆️ Phillip!! Why are you guys so scared to have a loyalist viewpoint? Where is your faith? Common man!!!

[@Rick-jg3vq]

Mackey, telling fans to brace for 3 loses is so fricken stupid. By saying that you are dumber than I thought you were. If you feel that way then don’t watch the games. There’s no need to watch purple daily because it will be all negative anyway. Sponsors should pull their adds because viewers will quit watching. Mackey, that is a stupid thing to say. Whether you are playing High School, College or professional sports you are always tuned in to wining. If your not then go do a podcast about preparing yourself to lose at what ever you do.

[@langstontb94]

Mackey S-A-W-F-T

[@Score1more]

These guys are grey😊

[@jaredpribyl]

Imagine if we kept Flores, and swap Gilly and Griffin for DJ Reed and Charvarius Ward…and sign or draft a stud DL. Defense will be number one in the league. Probably gotta roll with JJ if we do that. Heck then we could add another stud with an extra first round pick for Sam. But in free agency, the dream would be Reed, Ward, Trey Smith, resign Bynum or one of the other stud safeties available, and a Center. Draft monsters on the DL

[@jordant96740]

i was a Darnold Defender the from the day he signed with the Vikings. Now that Sam's playing so well, I've become a McCarthy Mule.

[@richardsmith3772]

Yes, Darnold can repeat because he's still getting better. We have not seen his peak. He is not a rookie just a late bloomer with supporting talent. I think if Darnold wins a SB, Judd will still have an excuse to dismiss Darnolds play. He's already trying to scare followers about his probability of repeating his performance. I think Judd and Thor should have their own PurpleDaily(ScoreNorth) podcast called PurpleDoubters.

[@anthonyinsetta6046]

I really want to believe we can win Sunday and flip the script but I agree with Phil no expectations this year looking foward to great game on Sunday

[@rogersullivan5351]

Glad to see you slackers back

[@matthewlangowski6398]

You won't beat the Lions twice so wouldn't you want to lose to them now??? We don't match up well against the Rams or Packers. 🙃

[@jaredpribyl]

We are a totally different defense when both Pace and Cashman play. It’s no coincidence it fell off a bit when either of them missed time

[@Michael-yk8nv]

The Sam Darnold hype train will be over after the Vikings lose to both the Packers and Lions. The Vikings can’t beat high level teams because their running game is just too fragile and their run defense isn’t as good as advertised. The Vikings will duplicate 2022 with a 13-4 record and 1 and done in the playoffs.

[@jiordone8563]

could be, but who really knows until the games are played.

[@B_Yaj1090]

When Robert Saleh was fired from the JETS, didn't Green Bay Organization bring him as a consultant to help GB Coach Matt Lefleur and maybe the defensive side of the ball. Maybe that's why the GB defense got a little better, in my opinion.

[@robertnelson3018]

Vikings let Joe Kapp walk [by not giving him a big contract] after losing in the Super Bowl and the offense suffered for 3 years [along with wasting the leagues best defense] until they traded for Tarkenton.

[@newdaddio5629]

Darnold has twice made it known publicly that he wants to come back for another run. What that means financially, I don't know, but could it hint that he is willing to take less on a short term guaranteed contract?

[@jessefletcher2736]

Stay away from zack wilson

[@steveparsons8458]

Defense has been a little easy to run against lately so we need to fix that bug overall I think Flores is doing a great job and can’t wait to see what he does to the Packers!

[@jaredpribyl]

@@steveparsons8458 we have the top run defense when Pace plays, he’s back…😈

[@chadharris7988]

The boys are back together, what a weird feeling week till now.

[@robertnelson3018]

Be a shame to not get any draft choices for him. He is worth at least a mid 1st round pick now and maybe higher depending how far they go in the playoffs. Franchise him for a year [or 2] and maybe can trade him at some point?

[@secretsq100]

I have rewatched that Chicago game several times and I will tell you I’m extremely worried about Darnold reverting back to Sam Donald(Duck). I’m surprise you guys aren’t more worried with that packers defense getting Sam flustered and shoveling passes and throwing crazy passes that could totally torch this game. Honestly Sam scares me! Btw the wolves are dead in the water with Randle who is Finch’s high school crush! This is average and he has totally sap the energy and chemistry of this team, Edwards don’t even know his status anymore, Rudy get yell at for playing low, and Randle dribbles entraps and loses more turnovers than any other player. Get him the F out of here I don’t care where he goes!

[@ElJefe0719]

Punctuation is your friend. 😅

[@mikegrimes9955]

The Darnold decision is dependant on where McCarthy is. Its possible the injury is a concearn. Its possible behind the scenes he doesnt feel like the leader we think he is if so Darnold is in play if not move on. The idea McCarthy will retrain trade value if we stick with Darnold is silly. 2nd round pick at best for McCarthy simply because becoming available would be a red flag.

[@marcphil808]

Judd isn’t being realistic… you kno the Vikings fan base. If Sam leaves and JJ have some bad game … they will definitely talk about JJ and compare his to Sam. Now JJ will have this crazy expectation as a rookie

[@timothypackard6218]

MERRY VIKINGS CHRISTMAS GUYS!!!

[@marcphil808]

I’m a little concerned about the defense, but they are good closers and they have a lot of up moments … but a lot of time where it seems easy to get yards on. It’s up and down , but I’m it’s football and teams are good and will score TDs .. but I don’t think they are bad , but yes sometimes concerned

[@MNWILD43]

I'm 58 and Judd is my sports Dad, that'll tell you something.

[@michaelhacker1442]

Jj Mccarthy is the better QB

[@jiordone8563]

the odds that he is a better QB is very slim as of right now, let's be real. History shows us that.

[@michaelhacker1442]

@jiordone8563 history shows KOC knows what he is doing, tape shows he has the It Factor and can do everything darnold is doing and better. JJ is the better QB and he will show it

[@bbombose]

I think Daniel jones is here to be a scout. Think we’ll franchise Sam next year and treat next year as we planned for this year as on the job training for JJ.

[@CrudPig12]

They brought DJ in to be a scout? What's he scouting?

[@anthonyleydens]

Hot take. Ko told Danny dimes, two years ago to stink it up and he would pick him up when cut. Now kewesi is going to trade Sammy d, and Mccarthy for all the draft picks. Then sign Danny dimes to a team friendly three yr deal.

[@anthonyleydens]

Percent chance. 1% or less. But it would be pretty cool if it was true

[@Nathan-qz3mg]

The main gang is back!

[@King28197]

Darnold is going to pull a Jack Morris. It only takes one season.

[@jaredpribyl]

Phil must be going thru something…pretty goofy to have a negative outlook, considering Sam has gone to another level

[@BrejetyKirby]

What a terrible example by Judd comparing the ‘09 season and a 40 year old Favre and this year.

[@anthonyinsetta6046]

Please franchise tag him and build the roster !!!!! Let's not overlook the needs of this team interior offensive line , d-line, corner back needs let's build a championship team for JJ McCarthy