Can OLED TVs Work Well As PC Monitors?

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[@blztree]

My PC is hooked up to an LG C2 and I love it. I don't think I'll go to a monitor anytime soon.

[@roadrash2005]

Yea I game on my 65’ oled with a couch desk board

[@fishappy0_962]

Just got a cx 48 basically new for 400 a couple days ago, LG do be Lifes Good

[@destroy-erase-improve9106]

Same here. Got the 42” LG C2 and it’s incredible! That’s after returning the Asus PG42UQ due to washed out HDR.

[@BBWahoo]

I bet femboys look great in 4K

[@JustCliff]

Same, use a 120 hertz Samsung OLED TV and can't go back to a tiny monitor

[@Macho_Fantastico]

I have an LG C2 42" and whilst the larger size took me a while to get use to, I wouldn't go back. The benefits of OLED far outway any real negatives. It looks gorgeous playing PC/PS5 games and movies in particular look outstanding. I'm careful not to leave the set running when I'm not at my PC, to ensure it doesn't suffer any potential burn-in but other then that it's been fine.

[@lirfrank]

Using a 42' LG C3 has been incredible. Video editing and gaming are so easy and comfortable.

[@jcdenton868]

Also upgraded after my previous samsung tv died for LG C3 55 tv. Really happy with it. PS5 games look incredible.

[@dl5fse990]

Are there still white uniformity issues?

[@lirfrank]

@@dl5fse990 Compared to what? To an average LCD monitor? It's significantly better. Not only is OLED better at color reproduction, it has better viewing angles, so they remain more accurate from more angles. Compared to a reference monitor? I'd say it's respectable. Like I mentioned earlier, I've been editing videos on it. (I edit commercials for a living) and it has never been an issue. You do have to play around with settings a bit, but that's true of most monitors.

[@barrygormley]

Same. It's fantastic. Gaming, editing and Resolve grading all a joy.

[@manino12345]

Im using an LG B9 55inch and works well even for counter strike competitive. Have this for like 4 years now.

[@girian]

I'm always blown away by the knowledge you guys have. It made me giggle to find Alex not knowing what eArc was

[@DarkReturns1]

I've been using a TV as a monitor for over 10 years, been on OLED since the C9.

[@mattspeer01]

Been using a 48” LG CX as my monitor for over 3 years. By far the best “monitor” I have ever owned. Zero burn-in with thousands of hours gaming/web browsing on it. ABL is a bit annoying at times, but overall I do not regret the purchase.

[@J.Wick.]

a 5$ LG Service Remote from Amazon will cure that ABL issue. Takes less than 5 minutes from getting it out the package to fix. Just did it on my new 48 C3. Cheers.

[@mattspeer01]

@@J.Wick. Yeah I had been thinking of doing that since the TV is out of warranty now anyways

[@LK-cy5xe]

ABL?@@J.Wick.

[@J.Wick.]

@@LK-cy5xe augmented black level...

[@mechanicalmonk2020]

​@@J.Wick. automatic brightness limiter

[@xXGreenTigerXx]

My LG CX has over 8000 hours as desktop monitor and absolutely no burn in. Now i use the Samsung S95C. I'll never go back to a monitor. OLED TVs have better picture processing/quality than OLED monitors. I play mainly single player games and in my opinion they look the best on an OLED TV. Every single time I play games like CP2077 I can not believe how good it looks. Gaming in 4K 144hz on 55'' QD-OLED was the best decision i could take.

[@aaronwalsh8469]

I got a 65 S90C for my kids with a ps5. The tv is unbelievably. The colors are fantastic.

[@grayfoxdiekilla1934]

I have the same 2 tvs but i have a pc with 4090,this is so looking good

[@JoeMaranophotography]

I'm on a QN90C and love it+

[@EndoV2]

Interesting point, I never thought of what kind of processor the oled monitors use, like the 27” LG compared to my 48” C1. So you think the a9 processors we have are better than what’s in the monitors? For tv/movie viewing I know it is for sure, curious about gaming. I wonder why they don’t tell us what processors they use lol

[@Dre2000lbs]

I think you guys should/can cover additional Audio Video hardware. Game content is harder to come by these days but I think talking about monitors, TVs, speakers, bluetooth codecs in the context of gaming would be really cool. Comparing different HDR implications for games across different TVs and spreading that education would be really fun to listen to from you guys. Keep it up!

[@J.A.Z-TheMortal]

Don't know about the rest of the team, but at least John is friends with the 2 guys from the My Life In Gaming channel. Which is an excellent channel.

[@born2serve92]

Hardware unboxed does monitors btw and they measure lag, HDR and more :)

[@Anna_Rae]

I adore playing all my PC games on my 55 inch C1. I'm able to sit back on the couch, use a controller, and it's so comfy. Steam's Big Picture Mode and my Stream Deck+ reduce how often I need to reach for the keyboard. It's a very console like experience, with all the cool benefits of a PC. The display itself is also gorgeous 💖💖💖

[@JustinGoffinet]

Would recommend Ergotron HX monitor arm, it's designed for 47" curved monitors and can easily handle a 48" TV. Just need to grab a VESA adapter plate or similar to go from 100mm standard for monitors to the 200mm or 300mm mounts that larger TVs use.

[@XXsupervisor]

Been using a 48" LG C1 OLED as my monitor for a couple years. It is incredible

[@MuzdokOfficial]

You guys are a good team. Each of you have their specialty and combined together it's the A- Team💪

[@Cipher_XoF]

I have been using my PC with the LG C1 and it's been amazing.

[@jeff1333]

cyberpunk on the 42 inch LG C2, 4k 120 is 👌👌👌👌

[@MediaBrad]

​​@@jeff1333it's nice if you adjust for the raised blacks level in hdr. I use a black floor fix reshade shader but you can also adjust the fine-tune dark areas on the tv itself for that.

[@IV-A]

Just played Control on my 65" oled hdr and it was supricingly immersive. I was looking around like it was vr. Its like halfwaypoint between lcd and vr. 4k dlss is a gamechanger.

[@DTNNooby]

I got a new TV a while ago and initially it looked real bad on my PC (out of focus and the weird colour stuff)... i reinstalled nvidia drivers which fixed the weird and limited resolutions in control panel and ran the windows display wizard (calibrate display colour in control panel) a few times to adjust things, it came out much better.

[@RareVDO]

Been using 42" LG C1 for 1 year and 3 months, and it is been amazing "monitor" so far. The colour is amazing, the deep black is unmatched, and the refresh rate of 120hz is silky smooth, and I can watch TV when my computer is doing its own thing.

[@yuplis2664]

LG C3 42" indie game developer here and its a breeze, for all! 3d modeling, animation, video editing and playing. Coming from other display not OLED, IPS 32 inches, 42 inch for productivity is on another level. Not looking for a monitor anymore. This does the job and cheaper than the ones (OLED pc displays) that are coming out, not need to break the bank. Text is clear no problem with that at all.

[@FPVTough]

Using a 42" C3 for my desktop. Set up with PC, Macbook and PS5. Very happy with performance as a monitor, when not gaming I keep the screen in SDR mode at 60 brightness which seems to eliminate any brightness changes. No burn in yet, despite often static content on the screen while studying

[@llamalandYT]

LG C3 42 here as monitor for Mac work and PC gaming. Best decision I ever made moving from an Ultra Wide. Love it. Can even turn off auto dimming in the engineer menu.

[@Smexbi]

I have a monitor hooked up to my PC, but I game on my 65" 4KTV. Having the power of a PC & the comfort of couch gaming is the best.

[@Gates-Tech]

After years of switching between dozens of panels, I am finally satisfied and can't do without it anymore. I use the LG C3 42 for both work and gaming.

[@Find_the_Door]

I have been using the LG OLED Flex for a year now. I've tried several other QD-OLED and WRGB OLED monitors with higher refresh rates but kept coming back. Ultimately I hope to move to the 32" 4k QD-OLEDs that are around the corner.

[@madpistol]

I used an LG CX 55” as a PC monitor for 3 years, and it was amazing! No regrets at all.

[@brentmeyer5695]

Would love to know the settings you use. Been struggling with camera pan stutter with a 4070 ti and a C1. Recently fired up Fallout New Vegas and looking around is a motion sickness mess.

[@tazmaniandarcy]

thanks for making videos like this. I have been holding back from using my OLED as a pc monitor but if Alex is finally giving in than I feel a little better about it now.

[@PrussianBlu3]

Why didn't you just do it anyways? Linus Tech tips recommended a 48" c1 years ago.

[@CasepbX]

Seriously? You had to wait for permission from Alex? Dude...

[@gordonfreeman9733]

@@PrussianBlu3imagine listening to ltt …….. 🤦‍♂️🙈

[@UlyssesM]

ABL is very aggressive on OLED

[@PedroKing19]

​@@CasepbX let my guy be as cautious as he wants to br

[@HiCZoK]

I like the c1 48” stand because it’s short and lets me keep my mouse pad. And for text, I just use 150% scaling at 4k. It’s too small for me otherwise

[@bigpesoproductions1413]

Listening to Alex figure out an HDMI cord made my day.

[@LukeMXack]

I actually have my 48 c1 mounted on a monitor stand (ergotron hx) and it's anxiety inducing to move around but it works perfectly when positioned

[@UltimateAK86]

Absolutely. I’m using a 42” LG C2 as my daily driver and I absolutely love it. 120Hz, VRR, HDR, ALLM. Perfect 4K picture quality. Hard to top it for most things. Text is crisp and clear; easy on the eyes. Really no major downsides IMO.

[@Daniel189HLL]

I have a BX for gaming and had to disable vrr on the ps5 and g-sync on the TV to get bfi to work. For fps I'm on the fence regarding the motion, but anything else like fifa or fast scrolling games is far better. Am I right in thinking that I can't have bfi AND 120fps?

[@harleyspawn]

EARC is probably more useful when you've got a big surround sound home theater receiver that has all your inputs plugged into it and uses the TV for video out. The audio from content that originates from the TV will be able to treat the HDMI from receiver to TV as an audio input, sending surround sound audio channels to the receiver. It will also pass through audio from any source plugged directly into the TV. It's great when it works. Although early versions of it would down-sample when passed through certain TV's. My old Samsung and LG 3D TVs would only pass stereo through the ARC and EARC, but most recent TV's will pass through DTS and Dolby Atmos at high bitrates with EARC.

[@speedgoat7496]

I’ve done something similar, gone from tv+console to tv+pc. Wondering am I missing out ultra response times from a of pc monitor? (I have an lg c1).

[@niospartan]

I have an lg c1 that's been awesome but seems to have an oddity with my 3060ti where every so often the image will invert colors and flash and progressively happen more often until you unplug the hdmi and plug it back in and that normally fixes it for the session but will happen again on a next time of use occasionally

[@silverroos]

Alex, try a big screen mounting and tilt the c1 a bit. It's so much better for working. It's much easier to see and read all the text and stuff on the side of the monitor. You will not regret it

[@stash211]

I use a LG C2 48" as my PC monitor. Buttery Taskbar is your friend for hiding the taskbar better than the Windows inbuilt. If you play on HDR, Plasma TV for Gaming is a good channel to look at for HDR settings for individual games.

[@xXGreenTigerXx]

I use AutoHideDesktopIcons to hide the taskbar and desktop icons. Works great on windows 11.

[@tayplaysgaymes]

Thanks for the tip about Buttery Taskbar!

[@Playerz714]

Would also recommend TranslucentTB

[@Captain-Chats]

Oooh I’ll take a look at these thanks

[@CarnivoryHODL]

TranslucentTB is awesome

[@Aidan.17]

Not sure what it is with power lights being underneath. My ASUS 4K 144hz monitor is the same and I'm constantly peering under it to see as its slow to wake and I'm not sure if it's on standby or off. I have to turn it off as sometimes it won't go in standby. Bit like car manufacturers making indicators you literally can't see now.

[@telekinesticman]

I have a 42" LG OLED C3 on my desk, and a 77" C3 in my living room connected back to my PC via fibre optic HDMI cable and it's absolutely perfect. The only annoyances are to do with how Windows handles HDR. Sometimes I have to toggle HDR on/off to fix my screen going really dark. But that's about it. Only other thing to keep in mind is having a screensaver on to avoid burn-in, but I usually just turn off the screen when I'm getting up to use the bathroom or get some food.

[@bonaventuraxyz]

Windows 11 handles HDR much better, I updated to 11 after buying the 42 inch oled

[@telekinesticman]

@@bonaventuraxyz weird, that's what I've been using the whole time.

[@kajerlou]

I've really been hoping LG's C4 would support BFI @120hz. I'm sticking with my CX until I see a new OLED that can handle 120BFI. The other improvements are not worth that sacrifice.

[@martinarrieta4536]

You should know it’s not gonna happen. LG is making the decision to focus on increasing pixel aperture ratio since they’re trying to make the screen brighter against competitive QDOLED. Iirc the way they’re doing so is counter to implementing 120hz BFI; as in adding 120hz BFI screws up their plan to make the screen brighter. MLA is something ontop of everything they’re doing. That said, they’re release new 4K 240hz monitors with unknown levels of BFI so there’ll be a market for the want of it. Doesn’t look like Samsung nor Sony are trying to add 120hz BFI, so for OLED TVs it’s a feature that got sunsetted for brightness.

[@geekosa63]

The 120hz bfi was quite good, the flicker at 60hz makes it unusable. On my old GX, I remember I had some troibles to activate the BFI while in game mode. But warning : activate BFI does bit allow to activate VRR

[@11Wario]

C1 77" lg here been great. I got my theater reclining chair with a leather weight bench backrest for keyboard and mouse. But most gaming is with controller and don't feel like I'm missing out.

[@Jaap-Relou]

Now the more interesting question is, how did you got your hands on a C1? It has been discontinued for quite a while now.

[@IvanDeMarino]

Maybe I missed it, but what does he use? C2 or c3???

[@nossirre]

For anyone wondering. I have the lg c2 for photography purposes and gaming. And for the photo side of things. It reproduces almost exactly the same colors as my iPhone and MacBook Pro. Yes I did have to tweak it. But I got it to look almost exactly.

[@LynxEng]

42" LG C2 since it came out and still going strong and still loving it. Run a decent PC and mainly BF2042 for gaming and consistently hit over the TV's refresh rate and everything is smooth as butter

[@peterunger9405]

I love my C1 LG OLED as a gaming monitor. Picture quality is amazing! My only complaint is the screen is so large I loose sight of my mouse in competitive games with fast mouse movement like League

[@GenaroNeto]

I have a 48 inch lg c1 oled as my monitor for my work laptop and had a 55 c9 lg oled for my consoles and PC. Recently I upgraded to a lg c3 oled 77'. All of them are awesome, none using with computer menus got burn in til now. The oled c9 unfortunately got the red youtube burned at the top right corner, so caveat about letting youtube TV app menus for long time. Other than that, nothing, for a TV that I bought in 2019 that's impressive. VRR options in 77 c3 are really detailed, it can use gsync while using my pc with rtx 3080 and when its working on PS5 and XBSX it change to freesync premium.

[@BluesElwoo2]

If you guys could ever find out a way to eARC from pc directly to an AV receiver, that would be amazing. I've been trying to do that for years. Also, eARC from the TV into the PC would be amazing also. I'm kinda baffled why Nvidia and AMD don't have eARC built into their video cards.

[@flingymingy]

It would make life with surround sound SO much easier.

[@thoreberlin]

Baffles me too, that ther isn't an USB->HDMI Soundcard for 10 bucks available. should be so easy to put out the bitstreams onto the 2 pins on the HDMI plug.

[@RicochetForce]

The disconnect between PC hardware manufacturers and AV receivers is insane. Even big brands like Denon advise people not to connect PCs to them. Which is fucking stupid considering the ubiquity of PCs as AV sources.

[@black543211000]

Not sure what you mean by eARC direct from PC to AV receiver. But you can get a box that takes the eARC from the TV and sends the audio into an AV input on your receiver. That's what I've got on my setup, I plug my PS5 and PC with 4k120VRR into the tv inputs then use this box to take the eARC from the tv into an HDMI input on my older AV 5.1 receiver that doesn't support eARC. This gives me uncompressed 5.1 into the receiver from my PS5 and PC and DD+ from the tv's streaming apps. The device I use for this is an "orei hda-927 eARC extractor"

[@bronstet]

​@black543211000 Plug your PC directly into your AV receiver as a source. Then connect the AVR's eARC port to your ztV's eARC port. It should work perfectly 🥰 .

[@jonathanf4082]

Please do a video on black frame insertion on this TV. People need to know. Also the service menu trick to boost brightness in that mode.

[@Daniel189HLL]

Yeah it's a faff to get to work. I had to disable vrr on the ps5 and g-sync on the TV

[@peterbattle5702]

So is bfi like using that strobe light app? I have an old 3d monitor and using that app sounds like what you described is the method that tv uses to achieve said effect.

[@MediaBrad]

BFI is just keeping the pixel lit for only part of each frame. Makes motion look clearer. Can't get as bright unfortunately or use vrr

[@rtql8d]

Switched to a Sony A90K because I watch media as much as I game. Amazing synergy with the PS5 and not too shabby with the Series X (lack of Dolby Vision is the only downside). The odd time I game on my laptop it’s unreal. When I go for bigger than 42 I will opt for a next gen LG.

[@RandomUnassignedYTHandle]

Been using a new old stock CX for almost a year now as a monitor. Love it. Have 120 Hz BFI high on always. Racking up hours quickly though...

[@xxticxxtocxx7909]

Been using a 2017 55" LG C7 OLED on my PC for years. Looking forward to 120Hz when I update, but otherwise it's worked really well. Some burn-in, given it's an older TV, and not all game devs include a HUD Opacity settings.

[@robertguinn1272]

I had my pc hooked up my 55" C1. The only issue I had compared to my monitor was that I could not resize steam to any size that I wanted.

[@ozanozkirmizi47]

Will BFI on 120 &/or 144 hz return on LG C4 ?

[@sunshineprogamer]

I have a question, I've been PC gaming on a QD-OLED TV (SONY A95K) for almost 2 years, and the only thing that I haven't figured out is how to get rid of screen tearing, I"m running a RTX4090/i9 13900k with all the bells and whistles and I still get a some tearing, any advice/suggestion on how to improve that?

[@FilthEffect]

You need vsync on in your nvidia driver.

[@andrei007ps]

Use Vsync or Framecap from the control pannel to a slightly lower FPS than the TV Hz.

[@resColts]

Make sure you have gsync compatibility turned on.

[@NathanHiberDive]

OLED is legit amazing, IMO when a game maximizes it's use, it's more impressive than going from 1080 to 4k details. I purchased a ROG Swift OLED PG42UQ and it's been perfect for all my gaming needs. Games that are transformed by OLED include Spiderman 2, Overwatch 2 and to a certain extent Alan Wake 2. It also has 4k, HDMI 2.1, Gsync compatible and console VRR support and the price is very reasonable too. Pretty much does everything. The only worry is burn in, but turning it off when not in use goes a long way, I'm yet to see any with regular use but still early days.

[@formulaic78]

I have a 55" lg b9 that I use to play pc games with a controller. It's awesome, but I couldn't use it as a monitor. It's positioned at the very rear of my desk and when I play I move back around 3m. But when setting up games etc I can't use it for too long because it hurts my eyes, even with HDR off (which is the only way I think I could use an OLED as a productivity monitor). Maybe 42" is more manageable but that still seems massive for sitting a meter away from the screen.

[@NeovanGoth]

Having an LG G3 connected to a 4090. 1500 nits (for real), incredibly shiny. G-Sync is working flawlessly. Thanks to LGTVCompanion it behaves mostly like a PC monitor; wakes up with the PC, goes to sleep with the PC, and chooses the correct input. Only downside is slight flickering in dark areas when frame time is fluctuating, apparently a problem _all_ OLEDs have.

[@grooners5333]

Using as a monitor at TV distance for a Mini ITX system, no desktop icons, auto-hide taskbar, frequent wallpaper change, 2 mins blank screen screen-saver option, avoid HDR except for games that benefit - as HDR sets a high OLED Light setting, 200% desktop scaling (in the past some apps had issues with dpi scaling), plus a dolby atmos surround system

[@captaincondescending]

My old monitor broke and I ended up using my 65" CX for almost 3 years. Obviously it's enormous so I had to move my desk back from it etc, but eventually I got used to it and to be honest for so many things it's totally unmatched. It was too big for things like cs2, but for productivity it was perfect, for single player games it's like playing in IMAX, and now I have a 1440p OLED monitor I switch between the two depending on the game so I can still enjoy that immersion. Obviously the HDR and motion clarity of OLED is incredible for OLED, and so if you don't have the issue if size, like with a 42", then the answer is yes - an OLED TV (with HGIG enabled) is an amazing pc monitor.

[@born2serve92]

3440x1440p OLED is peak my friend. It’s a lot of pixels but less than 4k. It might be a middle ground for you! I retired 4K since the odyssey has such a solid PPI and great HDR. Equally loved alan wake 2 although I only used RT with Alan’s sections as saga I preferred high frames :)

[@VEN0M415]

What hurts to see is a lack of component cable options now, seems that to carry on past consoles to modern tvs we'll need upscalers, its becoming a real money sink now.

[@Captain-Chats]

Use a 42inch c2 as my pc desktop display which I also have my ps5 and Xbox hooked up to. I got sick of waiting for a 32inch oled monitor. It’s been fantastic but I still feel when sitting close using mouse and keyboard it’s too big. I may take a look at the 32inch oled monitors coming this year but that tv will take some beating that’s for sure

[@scroogemcphuck]

been using my 48" LG C1 as a monitor for years now with zero issues, i'm using it right now. highly recommend it.

[@Gamez4eveR]

I'm using a 65in LG C1. Been using it for over a year now, love it.

[@UlyssesM]

Currently have an LG C2 and I have to say it's way too dim even with the "hacked" High peak brightness. Also hate the aggressive ABL. Thinking about retuning it. As someone who gamed an a 500 nit TV for 5 years I find 280 nits too low. It even goes lower than that.

[@stefankoopmans2200]

And here I am using my 55 inch C2 at just 20% brightness because I find it WAAAY too bright otherwise. For HDR movies and games I will turn up the brightness to full, but later in the day (evening/night) I have to use Dark mode 1 or 2 for it to be comfortable. When I do normal PC stuff, like while typing this it is just in SDR with 20% and it sometimes still hurts a bit. I'm also like 2 meters away from it as well.. I can't quite understand how you find it not bright enough, that means you blasting at 100% and you are not getting a headache? whot.... I had many monitors in my life, never have I experience sore eyes like I have with this OLED. My room is quite dim though. Don't forget to turn off all the energy saving options though, the TV was very dim out of the box.

[@DistinctionDino]

got a 42 inch sony a90k for most gaming and a 240hz mointor for CS and just general web browsing, plus it turns on with my PC which is a huge plus.

[@suuus4861]

Been using LG CX 55” solely on home pc since 2021. First hour or so was odd but not too big then at all, surprisingly. I browse web, KZbin, game, edit photos. No need to say it’s pretty immersive 😮

[@AntneeUK]

Alex, I've got a 49" Odyssey G9 Neo on an Ergotron arm. I'm sure you could mount it easily if you wanted to 😁

[@Mopantsu]

The main issue with BFI is the drop in light output. Some are OK with it but it severely drops HDR lumens. My C1 has 120Hz which I am guessing he has. The C2 and C3 dropped BFI to 60Hz.

[@formulaic78]

I think I tried it once on my b9 and didn't like it. Knowing me I probably didn't set it up correctly though. Maybe it even is one of if those settings that you have to remember to turn on and off when required?

[@jawnjinski]

My c9 has started to suffer from dead pixels but no burn in and it’s been used as a gaming monitor for years now.

[@MC-bh8ph]

I love oled but I would think that if you use it as a gaming monitor its really easy to make a mistake and get some burn-in, i know he said he hides his taskbar but computers tend to have a lot of static images... Perhaps oleds are less prone to burn in than plasmas?

[@tonyiommisg]

Sorry I’m a bit uneducated. What is the bfi they are referring to?

[@MrTominator87]

black frame insertion

[@FreshBro8]

I have a gaming laptop and I often switch between my 65 inch TV and my monitor depending on the game I’m playing. If it’s something like Spiderman or God of War on Steam, I tend to prefer the couch gaming setup while something as fortnite or call of duty will be towards my monitor set up.

[@JeepBully]

I’m using my 55” c2 OLED as my monitor. I do wish they’d have one DP port. I’m running 4k/120 without issue

[@kalensus]

Weird, I don't get that red/green tinge on explorer icons with my LG OLED. I just had a look.

[@HazewinDog]

I don't have any game that hasn't automatically picked up on the 120Hz and I haven't even noticed TV modes or whatever you would notice in games. using a used LG B9 55", been using it nearly 2 years now (and 0 burn-in yet, despite me using it for over 12h a day on average!) The only things that don't make it a seamless experience is 1. having to use a remote to turn it on/off and seeing your TV app drawer in the lower 4th when you turn it on, and 2. HDR. This one is entirely unrelated to it being a TV, it's just that there's compatibility issues with Windows and HDR (at least on Windows 10, idk about 11) Also, fringing is not visible to me at all and I have good eye sight. If your TV looks anything like what you've showed in this video, I'm glad I got a B9 instead...

[@akbarekt]

I'd say mini leds (with at least 500 dimming zones) would be the best to use as a PC Monitor. No worries and precautions needed that comes along with an OLED display. Mini leds can get much brighter than an OLED but of course can't get perfect blacks but it's getting close each year. 100% cheaper too as most OLED monitors right now are as expensive as OLED TVs. The Innocn 27M2V really kills it as a mini led monitor.

[@Crisheight]

Used a 32m2v and sent it back partly because the matte coating muted colors. Insanely bright, yes, but in sdr my LG GQ850-B did better. Once you start using HDR and seek 4K videos the lg c3 jumps up very high because it gets those feeds and quality that doesnt exist on a monitor only from apps. The cable management was bad because of port placement, and it has no spdif so I couldnt get audio from my dac to say an apple tv by using the monitor. My casing of the display was also kind of separating. The panel itself was pristine. Using those buttons to control osd is annyoing asf over time. Basically if 80% productivity and hdr gaming yes great choice, great text crispy, once you start doing more video hdr stuff an lg c3 is better - and even in hdr games it looks more real tbh. Kind of a shame because in dark hdr with bright fires the innocn slaps c3, but in mixed scenes I felt the innocn didnt have enough juice (contrast) and I feel the matte coating contributes to that since my mbp miniled looks great in those. I came away thinking for desktop use just stick with an sdr beast like the gq850-b or 950-b and ignore hdr on desktop, or get an oled tv or monitor. Hdr on desktop looks bad even after windows hdr calibration on innocn, the lg c3 looks good. Innocn speakers are underwater bad tier, lg c3 speakers are useable tier.

[@MarkyParky1000]

Also, using an LG48A1 on ps5. Will probably upgrade later this year to a c3/c4. Oled is beautiful

[@RunningInSuits]

Been gaming exclusively on my 77” LG GX with BFI 120 in a room with no lights for 2 years now and could never go back to anything else. I can’t recommend this setup highly enough.

[@Daniel189HLL]

How are you getting 120fps AND bfi please?

[@drasticmart]

Have had the 48” CX for a few years and it’s been amazing. Just have a bunch of dead pixels around the edge…

[@mksii]

I got a C3 48" for ~€900 recently and it's really nice gotta say. I'm thinking I maybe should have gotten a 55" S90C instead as they're brighter but oh well, I almost never use it at full brightness anyways.

[@joshjmilli]

Don’t get fomo over the S90C. Whilst it’s got the better panel technology, LG arguably provide a better package for PC users. The LG panels are much less susceptible to image retention (burn in), which is obviously quite important for desktop use. I’m fortunate to have both a S90C and a C2, and can honestly say I prefer the LG for gaming due to its better and more accurate HDR HGiG implementation, whilst also being G-SYNC compatible. And while it’s not eye-searingly bright, it’s definitely bright enough for HDR1000 content. I’m honestly convinced that LG’s “C series” TV’s would be a perfect TV if they could hit that 1000nit goal, perhaps in the future.

[@CarnivoryHODL]

I’m using a 48 C1 for BFI & a 27GR95QE for FPS. Been nothing but impressed.

[@RobH2022]

VRR does not with in Premiere Pro. I get no flicker at all with it off

[@CaveyMoth]

Motion Pro (LG's version of BFI) Medium or High + Deblur 10 = motion perfection. It is AMAZING! But it doesn't work at the same time as gsync. So you have a choice: Minor screen tearing or blurring. I choose the motion clarity perfection, along with a frame rate limiter to keep the screen tearing down.

[@lulkLogan]

You shouldn't have screen tearing. That's what Vsync is for, and you need to tweak resolution and settings so you don't drop below the 60hz or 120hz lock.

[@ericcarlton87]

I have a C1 and will be getting another for my PC build, no doubt, hands down best display I have ever owned. Had Panasonic Plasma (mid tier) back in 2010 and imo it’s better. Can’t wait to finalize my PC setup and play these games like Alan Wake 2, Cyberpunk 2077 all at ultra settings.

[@constantingeorgiu268]

Plasma was great. I still have my GT60 plasma. The only display that matched or even exceeded that was the CX which I have it now as my main monitor display. I heard good things about the C1 in regards to brightness when using BFI so I wanted an upgrade but it turned out was actually massively downgraded compared to CX when it came to motion and BFI. I love both my plasma and my cx oled but after setting it up correctly I actually have better motion and better brightness than the plasma.

[@ericcarlton87]

@@constantingeorgiu268 when the CX dropped I really wanted it but I wasn’t making enough money when it dropped. I had just started a new career path and by the time I was ready, the C1 dropped and I couldn’t really find a CX. My only problem is with all the research I did leading to my purchase of the C1 I just didn’t think about how much natural light I have in my living room. Still love my C1 but if I could go back I might have gotten a Mini LED for my living room. All in all extremely happy with it though

[@fullauto86]

I need an oled for sure, anyone know how it affects blue light output if at all? I get headaches from lcd monitors after too long unless I turn down the blue and brightness quite a bit, I was wondering if oled inherently had anything about it that helps on that front.

[@RicochetForce]

OLEDs are known for being harder on the eyes than LCD. Specifically it's related to how they display light vs an LCD, and many of them cannot be called flickerless. So more eyestrain in general.

[@LouisBee]

I have to agree about the PC monitor market space being awful. Besides OLED PC monitors often being poor value for money, the standard LED solutions just don't look very good when put under scrutiny. It seems so bizarre to me that we have monitors that cost hundreds, and hundreds, of dollars but don't do local dimming, don't have built-in speakers and even handle HDR poorly due to a variety of different factors. It is quite telling that many companies often choose to sell their displays based on how fast they perform, and what refresh rate they can feasibly operate at, when these are only smaller facets to their quality as a piece of hardware. I have used a 48 inch LG OLED CX as a PC Monitor since Mid 2021 and have never looked back since then.

[@NecroMorrius]

Nobody remotely serious will use built-in speakers.

[@RicochetForce]

#1. There is nothing "small" about companies focusing on the primary function of their product. Resolution, refresh rate, pixel response times, display tech. All those "small" details are critical and effect the final experience. #2. Why would you need speakers in the monitor? PC users have headphones and speakers in their setups. That just inflates the price of the monitor. #3. The profit margins for larger monitors isn't very good, especially for OLEDs. Notice how they don't exist in smaller sizes, because it's not profitable to make smaller sizes yet. If you want to see what high quality monitors look like, check out the professional space. And then look at their obscene prices.

[@LouisBee]

@@RicochetForce #1. I said "smaller", but sure, take me out of context. I am not dense enough to pretend that having low lag isn't preferable. The problem I have with lag stems from the manner in how manufacturers are actually giving that information out: It is poor and confusing, atleast from a consumer perspective. Even the Leo Bodnar Lag tester isn't a perfect way of measuring delay. Bad render times can completely negate the benefits of a higher refresh rate. Lower pixel response times are great, especially for motion, but motion will forever be an issue with digital sample & hold displays, atleast from a gaming perspective anyway. #2. Why not have built-in speakers? It is a quality of life feature that alot of people ask for and can be very convenient if you don't have any headphones/external speakers to hand. Just because you don't have a use for built-in speakers doesn't automatically mean other people don't either. I use the built-in speakers on my display nearly all the time. #3. Are you going to tell me how to suck an egg as well? I know there is not much profit in selling hardware, I worked in an electronics shop for nearly ten years, it is not very good. Look at it from a buyer's perspective however: It is fair to say that options for higher quality monitors, especially at a smaller size, are limited and they don't offer much for the money either. Feel free to disagree, I really don't care. I bought a 48 inch OLED TV because, at the end of the day, that was the right option for me.

[@simdevils]

Have the C2 wish it could do 4K 120Hz on Macs tho

[@bournechupacabra]

I've been using a 48in C1 and it's been great. I sit about 3 feet away from the screen and I can't really notice any subpixel issues. Also, I'm not sure what the benefit of BFI is for an OLED since it has basically instantaneous pixel response.

[@MediaBrad]

It's easier to see the benefits of black frame insertion if you go to blur busters. The pixels being on for only part of each frame just makes motion look clearer. But the downside is that it can't get as bright, so I never use it for HDR. Also doesn't work with vrr.

[@CarnivoryHODL]

Motion clarity is 2.6x (Motion Pro High) w/ BFI on the C1 w/ content at a LOCKED frame rate (60/100/120hz). Only caveat is a bit of input lag & less brightness, which is fine in the majority of non-competitive games.

[@HKT-4300]

I got a 55 C1 which i've been daily driving for close to 2 years, love the hell out of it but i definitely have some pretty nasty burn in from chrome and youtube's logo beofre i inspect elemented it out lol. It's only noticable on bright red screens though, not the worst, but i'm a brightness freak so i've got myself to blame.

[@gtamike_TSGK]

I use these for my PC. LG OLED55CX5LB OLED HDR 4K Smart TV 55 inch MONITOR ALIENWARE 34 CURVED QD-OLED HDR GAMING MONITOR - AW3423DW (QHD 3440 x 1440 - 21:9 Aspect Ratio - 175 Hz Refresh Rate)

[@bigboulder]

LG B1. VRR and gsync has some sort of hitching goin on. Its not PC or console (ps5) related. It happens on both. Its really a TV issue. Frametimes and FPS are perfectly fine when the hitches happen. Its very very suttle.. But its there.

[@lgolem09l]

Didn't know people were actually using bfi. I tried it on my cx, but it was so dark, no matter how I set it up

[@91KevinJohn]

On my lg oled 1440p 240hz monitor i even got resolution issues. Everytime i startet a Game in fullscreen i got a 4k 120hz picture instead of 1440p/240hz. In the end i has to use CRU and delete the 4k tv Resolution. That works and VRR also worked. There is a Thread on reddid it says you have to delete all tv resolutions but if you do you will have a black screen after enabling Gsync. So be sure to delete only the 4k resolutions in TV Mode....its very annoying. The monitor does it for next gen consolen which came usely with a 4k/120hz input and it downscale the picture to 1440p. Dont know why they isnt just a toggle.

[@CensorTube84]

Bought the LG C1 a few years ago…I still get impressed with the visuals.

[@Powerman293]

I use a CX as a PC monitor. It's fantastic. My only issue, or maybe it's just a me thing, But Black Frame Insertion makes my head hurt. Maybe I haven't deep doved enough into it.

[@pxnchx93]

Which TV is Alex talking about?

[@sudd0]

also you should check that you have specified *HDMI input as PC on LG TV* why to choose LG as monitor and not sony for example? LG uses light pixel refresher every time you turn off tv, this helps with image retention and image burn in. SO, DONT LET IT RUN ALL THE TIME WITH BLACK SCREEN WITHOUT TURNING TV OFF OR YOU WILL GET BURN IN! (some ppl like to turn off auto turn off to compensate all the time ready to not bother about tv remote) i got good BF deal on C3 42" with my macbook, no regrets. (hint fior mac, use cablematters usbc hdmi adapter with FW update that lets you run 4k 120Hz HDR RGB) for 2weeks a was testing C2, C3 is slightly brighter and better in some cases, if C2 would be better deal I would stay on C2 anyway. on my C1 77" with PS 5 console I also selected HDMI input as PC, this fixes me smooth gradation problem

[@fineva8291]

I generally game with my pc hooked up to my 65” CX on the couch with a controller and play it like a console. Especially since current gen consoles fall short of 60 fps still and don’t have as good of resolutions. I know I’m not an elite PC gamer, but I view desk, chair, mouse, keyboard, and monitor as a work / productivity setup. I like being on the couch with my controller when gaming.

[@RicochetForce]

Don't mind those elitist asswipes. What you're doing IS PC gaming, it's the beauty of PC's flexibility.

[@TheSideshowtom]

I’ve had my pc in the lounge for a number of years. I don’t watch a lot of to, and do watch a lot of KZbin. My latest set up is LG TV with Apple 4kTV, plugged into the eARC hdmi, and two HomePods. All my hdmi inputs, PC, PS5 and Switch play out thru the HomePods. ( I do also have two KRK 5s for better music listening plugged into the headphone out on the TV but it’s too much bass for general use and would annoy the neighbours below 😂)