Can Qui-Gon Speak to Vader in Kenobi? (Luke did it to Cade) - Star Wars Theory

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@EmpireFanProductions
@EmpireFanProductions 3 жыл бұрын
“I can tell you what I believe. I believe you will bring balance to the Force. That you will face your demons and save the universe.”
@0predaking0
@0predaking0 3 жыл бұрын
Nerdy vault?? Or it was Vader Vault?
@fatnakedjimmyneutron
@fatnakedjimmyneutron 3 жыл бұрын
Love that one! One of my favorites from the clone wars! Here is my personal favorite! It is done. And now I die, my heart broken, but knowing the role you will play. And what is that? You are the chosen one. You have brought balance to this world. Stay on this path, and you will do it again for the galaxy. But beware, your heart...
@7ItalianStallion
@7ItalianStallion 3 жыл бұрын
@@fatnakedjimmyneutron who says that? Lol
@Marco.05
@Marco.05 3 жыл бұрын
"trust your instincts, you will find another way".
@protalghulnist4126
@protalghulnist4126 3 жыл бұрын
@@7ItalianStallion the father of Mortis in the clone wars
@DarrelsWonderland
@DarrelsWonderland 3 жыл бұрын
I would definitely love a Qui-Gon cameo in the Kenobi Series!!
@andyb6400
@andyb6400 3 жыл бұрын
We need to see Obi-Wan make contact with Qui-Gon, as Yoda instructed him to at the end of ROTS
@audience2
@audience2 3 жыл бұрын
I want more than a cameo. Qui-gon should make at least three appearances.
@darthmalgus5258
@darthmalgus5258 3 жыл бұрын
He hopefully will have more than three
@ThisGuy7310
@ThisGuy7310 3 жыл бұрын
I've got a feeling there will be... Should be really interesting to see how that plays out.
@joviallokicc6062
@joviallokicc6062 3 жыл бұрын
It would be likely because at the end of ROTS yoda says he will teach obi wan how to speak to an old friend and reveals qui gon, so it would be likely qui gon will make an appearence and i cant wait!
@LeviDerringer
@LeviDerringer 3 жыл бұрын
Even if we can't see Liam in it, I hope we at least get his Voice. I feel like it's needed for the story. Who knows, maybe Liam will come out of retirement and be in it! That would be incredible. I know Liam is still proud of Phantom Menace so just Maybe.
@ninjaoninja2
@ninjaoninja2 3 жыл бұрын
Well… his voice is in the rise of the Skywalker. So it’s possible in my opinion.
@Jjj-zz7bz
@Jjj-zz7bz 3 жыл бұрын
He said he’d be interested in returning
@FreezeFun
@FreezeFun 3 жыл бұрын
@@2006Mercury When did this happen?
@ninjaoninja2
@ninjaoninja2 3 жыл бұрын
@@FreezeFun Yeah I also would like to know that, as I didn’t see anything like that.
@saltybulldog3241
@saltybulldog3241 3 жыл бұрын
@@2006Mercury Nah he was fine in that regard.
@chancellorpalprotein2886
@chancellorpalprotein2886 3 жыл бұрын
“Master Qui Gon. I thought no one could kill a Jedi.” “The Sith Lords and clones wore a special armor. It’s called plot armor.”
@tjcarr8097
@tjcarr8097 3 жыл бұрын
Of all the EU books I read on this subject. I always believed that Anakin/Vader had blocked all communication with Qui Gon. I believe he heard him at times. But! Really didn’t believe that one could transcend death and return to the physical realm
@christinajade69
@christinajade69 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve always thought that Qui Gon was yelling directly at Anakin when he started slaughtering the sand people and Yoda just sort of overheard it through the Force.
@christinajade69
@christinajade69 3 жыл бұрын
@@surfer_surfer we know it was him yelling, the conversation was about who heard it.
@jerelfritts8880
@jerelfritts8880 Жыл бұрын
I have thought that also. I think that's what made Anakin confess to Padme about it after he got back to the Lars Homestead
@Beanmachine91
@Beanmachine91 Жыл бұрын
@@jerelfritts8880 its perfectly normal to confess to those who legit care
@StarWarsTonight
@StarWarsTonight 3 жыл бұрын
Qui Gon is honestly one of the best Jedi ever
@kingmarsden
@kingmarsden 3 жыл бұрын
If Qui-Gon was able to reach out to Vader I think they would be able to have a civil discussion until he'd eventually have to bring up Padmé which would just make Vader flip and cut the conversation short.
@HyperspaceCafe
@HyperspaceCafe 3 жыл бұрын
The one thing Phantom Menace left me with was that the Jedi can be easily killed if they're not centered and age will catch up to you depending on your species even with the force prolonging your life. When Anakin says to Qui Gon that no one can kill a Jedi. Qui Gon tells him nope. I feel like Jedi died in the handfull all the time. They can be overwhelmed and distracted and wore down. Phantom menace showed me that being a Jedi was a terrible life lol.
@piercinglikelightproductio9382
@piercinglikelightproductio9382 3 жыл бұрын
It sounded like Qui-gon was trying too talk to Anakin in episode 2, but he was to focused on killing the Tuskan Raiders that he couldn't hear him. Yoda was probably just the only one who could hear him.
@keyseronthewire
@keyseronthewire 3 жыл бұрын
Well... That moment within Attack of the Clones when Anakin is slaughtering the Tusken Raiders after the death of his mother... We hear a ripple of Qui-Gon's voice yelling, "ANAKIN!" Yoda was able to faintly hear this while sensing that Anakin was in terrible pain... I don't think he would be able to outright talk with him... I imagine Obi-Wan was barely fortunate enough to reach out to Anakin to show him how to become a ghost as he transitioned into the force. He'll talk with Obi-Wan I'm sure... He may even tell him that he's tried reaching out to Anakin but cannot... Leave it to the will of the force after that or something.
@SJ-yf9xy
@SJ-yf9xy 3 жыл бұрын
He does talk to Anakin in clone wars tho
@keyseronthewire
@keyseronthewire 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, I love when that happened, but it was only on Mortis though, and it's never definitively stated in there that it's actually him... Nor do Obi-Wan and Anakin 100% believe it was actually him, especially Obi-Wan as stated by Anakin.
@SJ-yf9xy
@SJ-yf9xy 3 жыл бұрын
@@keyseronthewire I mean who could it be except him. It was him for sure but the idea that he appeared as a force ghost figure didn't make sense Like he never became a force ghost he was just a force voice
@keyseronthewire
@keyseronthewire 3 жыл бұрын
@@SJ-yf9xy I'm talking about in lore... In The Clone Wars Yoda and Anakin are talking about Mortis and how Qui-Gon aparently showed up... Anakin tells Yoda that it was a vision and or trickery of sorts to play on their emotions etc... At least that's what Obi-Wan believed. Yoda then went on his own journey to further his connection to the force via Qui-Gon as a guide. He stayed as a voice because his training was incomplete, but he did eventually manifest himself later on
@SJ-yf9xy
@SJ-yf9xy 3 жыл бұрын
@@keyseronthewire yeah I gotcha Hope we see him in Kenobi to atleast talk to Obi wan about vader
@matthewdragan5780
@matthewdragan5780 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe Palpitine was driving any attempt of Qui-gon trying to communicate away with the force or he designed Vader's suit to subdue any force premonitions.
@jerameysebion6841
@jerameysebion6841 3 жыл бұрын
I was literally thinking the same thing, that palpatine somehow knew qui-gon would try to reach out to Anakin/Vader and stonewalled any attempt.
@anthonyshannon4508
@anthonyshannon4508 3 жыл бұрын
Qui Gon involved in any shape or form would be incredible
@SKYWALKERDFS
@SKYWALKERDFS 3 жыл бұрын
Qui-Gon knew that he could not interfear with Anakins destiny. Just like Kenobi told luke he could not interfear when confronting his father.
@Kevinskcirdneh
@Kevinskcirdneh 3 жыл бұрын
Balance he did bring, if the force needs balance, then it was the light that was shining too bright....so Anakin brought about the dimming of that light and then took out the imbalance in the darkness. Also, maybe once Qui-Gon became one with the force he could see the path Anakin must take to restore the balance. Maybe not all of the steps, but the path.
@emkenobi
@emkenobi 3 жыл бұрын
I can’t imagine Liam not being a part of Kenobi. Even if it’s a minimal role it just doesn’t make sense to not show Obi-Wan speaking with Qui-Gon. Especially since we know he’ll want to discuss what happened to Anakin and share his regrets about it
@nicholasschillings7324
@nicholasschillings7324 3 жыл бұрын
I hope we see Liam in Kenobi. I really want Qui Gon so bad in this. And this show has so much potential and I hope we see him talk to Obi-Wan. I would love to see them talk.
@tomanyfandoms279
@tomanyfandoms279 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe Qui Gon will almost get through to Vader but Palpatines control over Vader will keep him from being able to do anything with Qui Gone advice and that will somehow cause him more anger.
@Rhyto
@Rhyto 3 жыл бұрын
Qui-Gon's presence in the series after his death has been a marvelous feature used to guide characters to progress towards enlightenment about The Force. His interaction with Yoda during the Clone Wars series was amazing in giving insight into becoming One with The Force after death. _Honestly it's given me questions as to how Qui-Gon learned this technique..._ In novels pertaining to Kenobi's time alone on Tatooine he has also appeared briefly to give glimmers of hope and insight during the rising age of the Empire. _While I haven't read enough novels on the matter, I'm sure others have much more insight and details on this at length._ Great Video! Loved pondering over this topic.
@ginantsfan5
@ginantsfan5 3 жыл бұрын
" Obi-Wan have you trained the boy as I asked????"
@lIllIllllIl
@lIllIllllIl 3 жыл бұрын
I think it would be very interesting to see Qui-Gon speak to Anakin(Vader) just before the events where Luke turns himself in on Endor. It would really put doubt in Vader and have him think about everything as he speaks to his son about redemption. Even igniting Luke's new green saber (Qui-Gon's crystal).. ;)
@jackosullivan2004
@jackosullivan2004 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Theory, Congrats on the completion of the home theatre. It looks amazing! You deserve it, your love for Star Wars is charismatic and inspiring. Thanks for providing us with such great content. All the best from Ireland, Jack.
@AaronJ180
@AaronJ180 3 жыл бұрын
"You've failed me for the last time, my former master."
@DarthBoba123
@DarthBoba123 3 жыл бұрын
I honestly don't think Vader's going to get some of the character development some of us are hoping for. I think he'll get quite a few scenes and that'll be linked to Kenobi for the most part but I think we should temper our expectations tbh. I hope we see lots of cool shit with Vader but I'm just not convinced. Not yet anyway.
@Who-Uhm-Cares
@Who-Uhm-Cares 3 жыл бұрын
I’m wondering if it’ll be a recap of the comic where he goes and makes his own lightsaber
@tommytommy7535
@tommytommy7535 3 жыл бұрын
@@Who-Uhm-Cares after 10 years , a bit late i am afraid
@andyb6400
@andyb6400 3 жыл бұрын
I hope you are right. Vader has always been a "less is more" kind of character. They dont need to show him a lot
@williamlatham9246
@williamlatham9246 3 жыл бұрын
I agree, after all, the show is called Kenobi 😁
@krishbhatia5928
@krishbhatia5928 3 жыл бұрын
This will be epic if they chose to do this in the Kenobi series!!
@thomasrobson6370
@thomasrobson6370 3 жыл бұрын
As a child he used "force sense" during each pod races, that's why he survived the each time; but he isn't a "marry sue" as "she" was in the sequel trilogies, thusly he couldn't use any other force ability with out training.
@arct1cyt677
@arct1cyt677 3 жыл бұрын
Qui Gon's just built different
@jackotherstar
@jackotherstar 3 жыл бұрын
It’s my new head canon that the reason Luke drank the blue milk in last Jedi was to cut off his connection to the force.
@glaceongirlakasusie4961
@glaceongirlakasusie4961 3 жыл бұрын
What’s in his milk? we will never know.
@andyb6400
@andyb6400 3 жыл бұрын
@@glaceongirlakasusie4961 the milk was made of the salty tears of TLJ haters
@tarikkovacevic6103
@tarikkovacevic6103 3 жыл бұрын
There is a comic between original trilogy where obi-wan as force ghost was talking to vader but he dismissed it as hallucination
@dolandarkxgrandayy6953
@dolandarkxgrandayy6953 3 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna need a conversation through the force between Obi Wan and Qui Gon
@danielcooke3732
@danielcooke3732 3 жыл бұрын
It is because Qui-Gon believed in following the will of The Living Force... "concentrating on the here and now" and "being mindful of his feelings".
@carternelson7929
@carternelson7929 3 жыл бұрын
Regarding Anakin having no super natural incidents, to quote Luke Skywalker. "Talent without training is nothing".
@unspeakablesbiggestfan7792
@unspeakablesbiggestfan7792 3 жыл бұрын
I actually want to see video of like with a mix of both like at first he's like really emotional and like happy that he's hearing qui-gone but then gets really angry
@socialaccount0000
@socialaccount0000 3 жыл бұрын
Speaking of Vader being mostly Anakin or lesser, I do wonder what would've happened if Vader had found Ashoka early, much earlier. Possibly around the Kenobi show, or only a few years after ROTS. I feel, depending on when she encounters Vader, she could have a solid chance of bringing back Anakin. She couldn't do it too early, as the trauma was too fresh, but she couldn't do it too late either.
@ThinWhiteAxe
@ThinWhiteAxe 3 жыл бұрын
I laughed so hard when I saw Cade pull out that blaster and Luke pointed out the absurdity of pulling a gun on a shadowy blue guy
@annadavies8867
@annadavies8867 3 жыл бұрын
Qui Gon spoke to Anakin on Mortis in Clone wars and he spoke to Anakin before that in Ep2 when Anakin was killing the Tuskgen Raiders, you can hear him say ‘Anakin, Anakin no!’
@DankFarrik
@DankFarrik 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate this theory, and seeing Qui-Gon again, or hearing him in depth, would be fantastic. Lets see. We can assume he'd be willing after his TROS voice cameo. So lets put him in something proper, give him a bit more of a cameo/role and see it happen. If anyone he'd speak with Kenobi though. Just my thoughts!
@HyperspaceCafe
@HyperspaceCafe 3 жыл бұрын
He had his mother to keep him humble and kind. He wasn't cruel or angry untill the council began to isolate him and make him feel like more of a burden than a miracle that they should have uplifted and encouraged.
@festo8756
@festo8756 3 жыл бұрын
Anakin fights Greedo in the street because he is called cheater. He also gets mad at padme for calling him a slave. Anakin was always angry
@wickideazy
@wickideazy 3 жыл бұрын
I have a couple of theories as to why Qui-Gon did not reach out to Anakin after Mustafar, both based in the fact that I've read "Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader" multiple times and have contemplated this very question. 1. If they do take elements from that novel, then Vader is fully (well, 99.9%, which is close enough for statistical purposes) immersed in the dark side by the time of the Kenobi show. And as you yourself explained in another video, Force ghosts don't just manifest to everyone in the room, just to those with whom they have a powerful connection (hence why Luke could see Obi-Wan, Yoda, and Anakin at the end of ROTJ but none of the dozens of people around him could). Qui-Gon could have tried to reach out to Anakin, he could have been trying the entire time, hell he could have been shouting himself hoarse (metaphorically) but Vader being Vader, as deeply enmeshed in the dark side as he was, wouldn't have been able to hear him. And even if the part of him that was still Anakin COULD hear Qui-Gon... 2. Vader would have rejected any thought of communing with Qui-Gon anyway. As Qui-Gon himself noted in the novel, Vader consciously avoids anything that would or could threaten to awaken the core of him that is Anakin. Speaking with Qui-Gon would be very, very high on that list of things that Vader would be avoiding. In fact, from his new, twisted POV, Vader would no longer respect Qui-Gon; he'd look down upon him with scorn and derision, for two reasons. First, I can see Vader blaming Qui-Gon for his (Vader's) state of being. If Qui-Gon had trained Anakin, maybe he would have been a better Jedi. Maybe he would have been able to defeat Palpatine and become the hero he always dreamed of being. Maybe the Order wouldn't have fallen if Qui-Gon's wisdom had been there to guide them. But it wasn't. Anakin got stuck with Obi-Wan, an inferior teacher, instead of Qui-Gon, because Qui-Gon was dead. Thus, to Vader, everything that happened to him was Qui-Gon's fault for being too weak to deal with Maul, who himself was nowhere near as powerful as Vader. Vader would hate Qui-Gon perhaps even more than Obi-Wan, for the simple fact that Qui-Gon's "weakness" resulted in him "abandoning" Anakin.
@williamlatham9246
@williamlatham9246 3 жыл бұрын
In 2 Qui-Gon shouted and Yoda heard him in the Force. I think Anakin couldn't hear Qui-Gon because he was enraged, tapped into the dark side to fuel his hatred of the sand people and there was no way he could hear Qui-Gon's voice. As Vader I believe he would be deaf to any pleas from Qui-Gon or anyone alive except for Luke, as we know, the voice of his son was the only voice that broke through his armor and awoken Anakin Skywalker.
@dianesinger9729
@dianesinger9729 3 жыл бұрын
I would like to think Qui-Gon would try to reach Anakin but Vader would stop him as he is too angry
@captainrice09
@captainrice09 3 жыл бұрын
i hope it’s only a few seconds to a min bc a full fledged convo with qui gon and vader would be breaking canon cause he is still evil or atleast “freshly evil” so to speak. at that point their is no saving him at all. i see qui gon saying “anakin it’s qui gon, tell me why you did it” and then vader becomes angry at himself, everyone around him, he starts to kill some of the clones out of anger or whatever, in order to block qui gon from waking up anakin forever which he would do hence i believe at this point only person in the galaxy that can save him is luke.
@coreymckee4844
@coreymckee4844 3 жыл бұрын
Regardless how they handle or do it, Quigon MUST be in the Kenobi series!! We can come up with so many ways they can do it, but for that to happen first, he NEEDS to be included. I think its about a 50/50 chance they include him. It IS disney afterall and they dont give me much faith in anything starwars lately, so im keeping my expectations VERY low.
@scottgoss7927
@scottgoss7927 3 жыл бұрын
He was weak and lost to Maul, the Dark side sound say he should due and he ignored, that may have something to do with it they can lean on.
@precisionpowergamer2361
@precisionpowergamer2361 3 жыл бұрын
Would be cool for sure, imagine Vader in his castle meditating and hearing Qui Gon reaching out to him, that would probably shock and anger Vader greatly
@TheRuleofTWO66
@TheRuleofTWO66 3 жыл бұрын
I think that Vader will be kinda receptive at first but then convince himself that Qui-Gon was the cause of all of this, because Vader always blames his problems on everyone else instead of taking the blame for it and so I think that’s when he will sit Qui-Gon out further pushing him to the dark side, to where we see him in Rogue One and A New Hope.
@ForgedbyLight
@ForgedbyLight 3 жыл бұрын
What if Qui Gon knew Anakin had to fall to rise above the Dark side and bring balance🤔
@darthvader9939
@darthvader9939 3 жыл бұрын
And my second is that the "rematch of the century" is gonna be a nice Windu vs. Anakin/Vader
@fattiger6957
@fattiger6957 3 жыл бұрын
Nice to see a reference to Star Wars Legacy in the video title. Seems like the only thing from that comic anyone remembers is Darth Talon.
@ace360
@ace360 3 жыл бұрын
Omg I need To see Liam Neeson back to reprise he's roll as Qui Gon
@Lesskarr991
@Lesskarr991 3 жыл бұрын
id love to see qui gon talk to vader during the kenobi show
@GassedFEIN
@GassedFEIN 3 жыл бұрын
We’ll probably see him talking to kenobi about becoming a force ghost and other teachings because at end of revenge of the sith yoda mentioned that qui gon would teach kenobi but idk about him talking to Vader just because we’ve never seen a force ghost talk to a sith but it would be cool to see
@JosStrange
@JosStrange 3 жыл бұрын
Watto was the closest thing to a father he had.
@mr_john5695
@mr_john5695 3 жыл бұрын
vaders response to qui-gon should be a mix of both.
@parkerholly4405
@parkerholly4405 3 жыл бұрын
i feel like if qui gon didn’t talk to vader, it’s because he knew it was the will of the force or because he already knew this was how he would bring balance to the force
@sharkman027
@sharkman027 3 жыл бұрын
In my mind Qui-Gon would probably know that Anakin's turn was the will of the force and therefore wouldn't reach out to him. I would love to see him speak to Obi Wan though. For me, it could be one of the greatest moments in Star Wars history.
@cerromeceo
@cerromeceo 3 жыл бұрын
He did reach out to Vader....well on KZbin he did. Look up "Qui Gon talk to Vader" on KZbin. Good video lol
@nickk4419
@nickk4419 3 жыл бұрын
A simple "Im sorry" from Qui Gon would mean soo much and nothing else
@SOT.321
@SOT.321 3 жыл бұрын
You have the best ideas and explain them so clearly
@lusy_aaltje
@lusy_aaltje 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve got as much hope for Qui-Gon to show up in the Obi-Wan Kenobi show as for Anakin to show up in the Ahsoka show. It’d be really nice to see them interacting with their apprentices one last time. As long as they are not some sort of a goodbye scene like in the end of ROTJ and TROS because then it will be too much repetition. But yeah, … we’ll see. 🤷🏻‍♀️
@darthvader9939
@darthvader9939 3 жыл бұрын
That was my first taught, when they confirmed the series
@deadmetal8692
@deadmetal8692 3 жыл бұрын
The random feat's you mention about Anakin, I've wondered about Luke also.
@DrJay-iy8rv
@DrJay-iy8rv 3 жыл бұрын
I saw Cade and clicked STAR WARS LEGACY NEEDS MORE LOVE ❤️
@dustinmosley5965
@dustinmosley5965 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like it's more likely he communicates with Obi Wan, considering Obi Wan would need to learn how to become a force ghost from someone, and I doubt it was Yoda.
@cadeshanley218
@cadeshanley218 3 жыл бұрын
I'm still proud that I share a name with a Skywalker in Legends. Though if I were my Star Wars Legends counterpart, I'd keep my red Lightsaber and Dual Wield a Blue Blade with my Red Blade.
@poppapalpatine7659
@poppapalpatine7659 3 жыл бұрын
Obi Wan has yet to accept him as Alive and a Sith. This series will confirm his suspicions. Explains why Kenobi knew about Vader in episode 4
@liam0155
@liam0155 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like it could be a very intense scene and I'd love to see them interact
@filipwirenmark2323
@filipwirenmark2323 3 жыл бұрын
Banger as always🔥
@StarWarsTheory
@StarWarsTheory 3 жыл бұрын
thanks man
@sargetparrot
@sargetparrot 3 жыл бұрын
i could see qui-gon having the view that the force would decide his fate, or perhaps maybe qui--gon knew all along what was in store and saw it as a needed evil to balance the force. because at the end of episode 6 one could argue that ankin did indeed destroy the sith like the prophecy foretold by killing palpatine and then dyeing himself. and id love to see a scene or 500 of him and vader discussing such
@lucylle3132
@lucylle3132 3 жыл бұрын
My understanding is if Qui-Gon would have intervened, Vader wouldn't have overthrown the Emperor, but maybe....
@dachessnoob6818
@dachessnoob6818 3 жыл бұрын
OMG Heres a good youtube idea: What if Mace Windu sent the Younglings to kill Palpatine
@aleistergein114
@aleistergein114 3 жыл бұрын
I think the biggest hole in this theory is that in A New Hope, Vader was surprised when Obi Wan vanished after his death. If Qui-Gon had been contacting him, then Vader would have already known that was something light-side users could do. I also don't think he could ever see into the future--I think he was being fed visions of the future by Sidious, which is why his visions only ever seemed to guide him along his path to the dark side. That's why the visions stopped after his journey to the dark side was complete.
@festo8756
@festo8756 3 жыл бұрын
Yoda taught Luke to see into the future in Empire. Why do you think Anakin wasn't able to see into the future?
@aleistergein114
@aleistergein114 3 жыл бұрын
@@festo8756 Because the visions only ever seemed to benefit Sidious' agenda. Anakin is shown his mother's suffering practically as it is occurring, too late to do anything but revenge himself and her on the sandpeople. He is shown only Padme's impending death, not that his would be the hand that kills her (if he is, I suspect the "dying of a broken heart" thing might have also been Sidious' doing). He is never shown any vision that would lead him to doubt the character of Chancellor Palpatine, doesn't forsee murdering countless of his peers--among them young children--and doesn't see his own near-death at the hands of his best friend. Paul Muad'Dib he is not.
@festo8756
@festo8756 3 жыл бұрын
@@aleistergein114 The problem is you don't understand what George Lucas was doing? Luke also saw Leia suffering in Empire. Do you believe the Emperor was behind that?
@aleistergein114
@aleistergein114 3 жыл бұрын
@@festo8756 I mean...seeing that drew Luke into a trap that the Emperor and Darth Vader set so...maybe? No, I understand exactly what Lucas was doing. Anakin's story is that of a man falling to evil despite having good intentions. I can appreciate that theme while also entertaining a theory that Sidious was grooming Anakin to be his apprentice through his dreams. They're not mutually exclusive concepts. And what does any of that have to do with Yoda and Luke? I didn't say prescience was *impossible* in Star Wars, just that Anakin didn't have it.
@festo8756
@festo8756 3 жыл бұрын
@@aleistergein114 Lucas was mirroring the original trilogy when he made the prequels. In episode 2 Dooku asks obi wan to join him. Mirroring Vader asking luke to join him . Sidious is shooting mace WIndu with electricity as Anakin watches. This is supposed to mirror the emperor shooting Luke with electricity as Vader watches. Luke sees into the future where Leia is suffering. Anakin sees his mother and padme suffer. Both times are to show why Jedi don't form attachemnts and it's best to let things go. Lucas made it clear what's going on in his movies. There is nothing in the film that says Sidious is behind it.The movies are intended for children. the films are simple and straight forward. I don't get why you don't understand the films?
@K369-v3o
@K369-v3o 3 жыл бұрын
Anakin's journey through the force is dictated by the force. The reason Qui-gon shouldn't talk to him is the same reason he didn't tell yoda Palpatine was Sideous. It's not the will of the force. If Qui-gon talked to vader with the intent of turning him to the light, that potentially ruins Luke's destiny. It would be nice to hear Liam Neeson as Qui-gon again, but he should only speak to Obi-wan.
@johncabaniss1628
@johncabaniss1628 3 жыл бұрын
I think vader would blame qui gon, but would still feel attachment to him, which is forbidden, then that would remind him even more that he isnt who he used to be , hence he would be pissed and tell him to go away, i do think if qui gon had tried more , that it would have brought more of anakin out over vader, and i do think he should have tried many times and he didnt even try 1 time. Ive thought about this quite a bit myself
@theday7201
@theday7201 3 жыл бұрын
I thought the reason Anakin could see into the Future was because of Palpatine manipulating him in to the Dark side. Also notice how every time he's having a force visions it's all ways about Death Not about Anakin having his family by his side through out the Galaxy that's how it's Palpatine manipulating him
@festo8756
@festo8756 3 жыл бұрын
It's was designed to mirror Luke seeing into the future in Empire Strikes Back. It had nothing to do with Palpatine.
@theday7201
@theday7201 3 жыл бұрын
@@festo8756 Oh interesting that's cool I didn't know that but I was talking about Revenge of the Sith the Dream scene because Theory made a video on it a while a go explaining it but it was never confirmed by George Lucas on why them dreams where happeneing all we no was it was the way of the force
@festo8756
@festo8756 3 жыл бұрын
@@theday7201 If you watched the movies it's clear what's happening. Jedi are Forbidden to form attachments and are told to let go. Anakin doesn't follow the rules and is punished. Luke in Empire does the same thing and fails to stop Vader and loses a hand. You don't need Theory to make a video to understand that.
@theday7201
@theday7201 3 жыл бұрын
@@festo8756 I most probably didn't need Theory to make a video on it he just did back in 2019 with a Good Title and a good Clickbait. And I most likely had free time to whatch the video so that's where I got the info from.
@ImJEllisAF
@ImJEllisAF 3 жыл бұрын
I’d love to hear Qui Gon’s opinion about Vader. If he tries to reach out but gets ignored by Vader
@fattiger6957
@fattiger6957 3 жыл бұрын
Even if Qui-Gon could be heard, I doubt Anakin would listen. He is racked with so much inconsolable rage, hatred and guilt that he wouldn't want help. Maybe it could be a subplot that Qui-Gon speaks to Vader, but Vader has to find a way to shut him self off from hearing the Force ghost.
@S7EVE_
@S7EVE_ 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe that’s why he hasn’t spoken to Vader, because he feels that he is partly or fully to blame for all that has happened, he was adamant that Aniken be trained into the Jedi order. And when he died he failed him and ultimately the galaxy, in a larger perspective, as he wasn’t there to train and guide Aniken. He may also have given up trying, we know he tried in episode 2 when he killed the sand people, but it didn’t seem like Aniken heard him, maybe he just feels ashamed and hopeless.
@killinginmxtion5491
@killinginmxtion5491 3 жыл бұрын
Title: “Why he WILL” Video: “this is just a theory”
@davidcox12317
@davidcox12317 3 жыл бұрын
Qui gon is like the Jesus of star wars
@martinw8062
@martinw8062 3 жыл бұрын
Qui-Gon should be in Kenobi regardless if he speaks to Vader, we want and need to see how Obi-Wan learns how to become a force ghost, and they should show how he learns that.
@revan8823
@revan8823 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine giving your last breath to the hope of a young boy you found on a slave planet, whom you believe to be the Chosen One, only to watch him turn to the dark side and destroy the Jedi Order. Qui Gon probably wants to take a back seat going forward.
@twilightalfa8852
@twilightalfa8852 3 жыл бұрын
To see Anakin crushing a Droid or using the force to knock something off the shelf makes me think of Harry Potter before he knew he was a wizard
@artoholicguy7060
@artoholicguy7060 3 жыл бұрын
I think they are keeping it secret about all of the cameos . When you tell the story of obi wan and Vader I think after Luke, Leia, and their new parents. There are those who were really close to them. If they want to explore obi wan's mind I believe they have to bring back qui gon and Satine. In the same way, they will have to show Padme for Vader's nightmares.
@IdreesNajibi
@IdreesNajibi 3 жыл бұрын
I think Qui-Gon will talk to Obi-Wan and tell him "Neither of us can get through to Anakin. Only Luke. When Luke is much older, he will cross paths with you one day, on that day is when you start his training. Give him Anakin's lightsaber and tell him his father wanted him to have it when he's old enough."
@TheNin-Jedi
@TheNin-Jedi 3 жыл бұрын
Qui-Gon: Anakin. You are the chosen one. Why have you done this? Vader: Anakin Skywalker was a fool and is now dead... Just like you. Qui-Gon: I am sorry Anakin. I know I couldn't be there for you. Yet i've watched you. The force wills it. Vader: Everything that has happened up until now IS the will of the force.
@yaarpenpowderman
@yaarpenpowderman 3 жыл бұрын
Is there any information about what (for lack of a better phrase) "what life is like" for people such an Qui Gon or Yoda who became part of the Force when they died?
@JonathanMartin884
@JonathanMartin884 3 жыл бұрын
If you want to see what would happen with Anakin as a child perhaps something like the Infancy Gospel of Thomas could be a fun key.
@John-co6mo
@John-co6mo 3 жыл бұрын
What's the release date for kenobi? I think they have finished filming, and are now editing.
@Vincent-uf7eh
@Vincent-uf7eh 3 жыл бұрын
i always thought qui-gon never spoke to vader is because he knew it was part of the plan that anakin became vader so that he could kill sidious and kill himself in the process so that the sith might end. now my big question is if qui-gon ever saw in the force that disney would fuck it up by reviving one of them. maybe you could make video on that???
@grizzlygoose7458
@grizzlygoose7458 3 жыл бұрын
I think it would’ve been cool if right before Vader kills palpatine qui-gon speaks to him and tells him he knows what he has to do
@mjayfreeable
@mjayfreeable 3 жыл бұрын
Heck yeah and I hope they show him telling Anakin how to be a force ghost
@shadowsquadron
@shadowsquadron 3 жыл бұрын
Anakin did have interesting feats as a kid that he couldn't explain. The Podracing. Only human capable of doing it.
@djw7924
@djw7924 3 жыл бұрын
I feel qui-gon will trigger a vision for Vader
@Natsirt666
@Natsirt666 3 жыл бұрын
How about a "What if Anakin had fallen/given in to the Dark Side before Qui-Gon found him"? Imagine Qui-Gon found this child, who was super powerful in the Force, yet flush with Dark Side Energy despite having literally no training at all. That would be bad ass.
@kdkittehmama9490
@kdkittehmama9490 3 жыл бұрын
A couple of months ago, Liam Neeson was a guest on the Late Late Show with James Corden. Corden asked him if he would appear in Kenobi. Neeson said he was interested, that he would have to read the script, and that no one had approached him yet. FYI. Again, this was a few months ago.
@hassanmasood186
@hassanmasood186 3 жыл бұрын
Because still believes there’s hope for Anakin to bring balance to the force even though he is Darth Vader. He never gave up on him.
@keplerthe3399
@keplerthe3399 3 жыл бұрын
Liam Neeson back as Qui Gon is something I have wanted to see for a long time, a long time.
@echo013winter3
@echo013winter3 3 жыл бұрын
Part of me likes to believe that the Qui-Gon redeems Vader KZbin series is canon and that Qui-Gon spoke to Vader during RotJ and guided him into besting his master and saving Luke. Another part of me likes to believe that Qui-Gon knew it was the will of the Force that Vader do what he did and knew to stay out of it. And Another part of me likes to believe Qui-Gon is a secret ally of Palpatine and a Sith Lord himself and everything was proceeding as they had foreseen. Qui-Gon: "Train the boy." Palpatine: "Okay I will DEW IT!" Qui-Gon: "He will bring balance." Palpatine: "Soon I will have a new apprentice, one far younger and more powerful." Both: *Evil Laughter*
@beny.thomasian6151
@beny.thomasian6151 3 жыл бұрын
I think the concept of the force ghost was still "new" or at least new to this generation of Jedi and so I believe it took Qui-Gon a long time to learn how to communicate from beyond and that's why he never spoke to Anakin prior to him turning to the dark side. It was too late for Qui-Gon to reach out once he finally figured it out. Also Anakin as a little kid, he was still kind and innocent and wouldn't force choke or smash anything with his force abilities as a little guy.
@crestonchi5427
@crestonchi5427 3 жыл бұрын
Vader and Kenobi will face off, but the second duel will be interrupted by qui-gon ghost talking and kenobi will then escape and begin to feel that...vader is now more machine than man.
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