Can schools confiscate and dispose of a mobile phone?

[@trashman1358]

This video perfectly demonstrates why I never became a barrister... Which subsection ZBD, paragraph relating to 347C... Who did what to what now??? I'm sorry, I've forgotten what we were taking about...??? What's the topic again... What the hell just happened??? Is everyone ok??? 🤣😂🤣

[@BlackBeltBarrister]

One of the best comments I’ve had on this channel, well done! 😂

[@robertbrown1778]

@@BlackBeltBarrister This has always perplexed me; how it is that legal bods keep track while going down the rabbit hole of subsections. Do they carry it in their mental RAM or have a system of note keeping that somehow unravels it all by the end?

[@BlackBeltBarrister]

@@robertbrown1778I’ve heard it termed “barrister brain”! It also refers how we forget 95% of the details of a case 5 minutes after leaving court, but then they flood back when prompted of just one or two details of it. Bizarre!

[@Rapscallion2009]

The bit that puzzles me is I can't remember a detail from a task I did years ago. It might be a person's name, a technical thing or the underlying logic behind a decision or anything really. I know I know it, just can't quite recall it right now for the life of me. I call it a "mental 404". Hours later I'm trying to get to sleep or taking a shower or making dinner and >PING!< it's back from long term storage. Oh, Yessss! That's right! Then over the next while other details are retrieved unbidden from memory - including irrelevant peripheral data I have no explanation for memorising in the first place. Often reading or recalling a few details of the task will induce detailed recall - I think it gives my subconscious (which is the really clever part - the conscious mind just smiles and takes all the credit!) a pattern or reference of some sort to look for in long-term storage. I'm not sure you ever really forget anything unique. I suspect you just stop thinking about it. Last night's dinner at home you barely recall, but your first date years ago is pin sharp.

[@janburn007]

@@Rapscallion2009 It's been quite a well-known fact for some time now, that when one's memory declines - it is the "short term memory" which declines first. Which means that it is increasingly difficult to remember things which happened just yesterday, while those which might have happened 20 years or more ago, can still be easily recalled.

[@margaretnicol3423]

Call yourself a barrister? How dare you read out the actual law as it is written and expect me to agree with it when it's not the way I want the law to be written!!! Ho Hum!

[@barbsdee3831]

😂😂😂

[@maverick627uk]

"Having a bad day/life" people trying to find purpose and meaning. Don't bother giving them the response they crave. You do a great job and provide a great service 😉

[@Oldmanpeace]

It is good content to make some cash and raise profile from a content creation point of view. Considering this is a person with £60k's worth of legal training then I would say this is a win/win. If I ever found myself in a legal predicament and I needed legal council from a trusted source I would think of him as someone who could point me in the right direction of someone ethically trustworthy. Guess its working.

[@JD-cw4qg]

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[@statementleaver8095]

Clearly it's a Teacher. Ofcourse BBB has received a link.........Copy&Paste is all a Teacher knows. Gov states "those who teach enjoy" In reality it's Stress and Depression

[@mercedesblack7828]

@@statementleaver8095 Probably his boss...

[@paulwalton1222]

I agree. No one likes a smart arse.

[@tttt4029]

As ever, thank you for your sensible, reasonable, articulate and accurate content 😀

[@ralphskitz5126]

Schools should not have the power to delete or dispose of, what may potentially be evidence !

[@17snooker]

Any school or teacher did this in Scotland would have alot to worry about

[@obellinfantie]

The adage "a little knowledge is a dangerous thing" comes to mind; the kryptonite of the barstool lawyer.

[@cedhome7945]

Let them say these things in court then see how clever they are ....I know who I would place a bet on 🤔

[@Gainn]

All this proves is that the whole law around schools seizing items needs rewriting from the ground up.

[@moirab1]

I always find you to be honest, wise, knowledgeable, well researched and l always look forward to your videos

[@attaat]

So, the Police can't delete anything from your phone, without a court order! but your teacher can... What a wonderful set of laws and rules we live under...

[@ianmarlow805]

Why do you let your kids have a phone at school?

[@meredith2803]

If it's being used for illegal activity it should be taken as evidence and nothing should be deleted.

[@alangrant5278]

I admire your restraint in the face of an attack by an amateur. Followed by demolition of argument with facts. Perfect!

[@alternatefutures]

I find it disturbing that the law gives the school / teacher the right to dispose of what could potentially be evidence of a crime. This seems like it could be ripe for abuse -- especially if teachers are involved in said crime.

[@Phantom-mk4kp]

Surely if a member of staff destroys a phone that contains criminal evidence, they could be accused of destroying criminal evidence. They shouldn't destroy it but hand it over to the police. What if a pupil has recorded a teacher committing an offence or in breach of regulation, the teacher having the right to destroy it is wrong.

[@grahamwalls2051]

In the 1st instance, a phone containing criminal evidence, the law just gives them the right to decide. I would assume there are any number of instances where they would destroy the evidence rather than ruin a child's life. In the case of recording a teacher committing an offence the phone would not have been used to commit the offence so the right to destroy it would not apply. My opinion of course :P

[@manu-tonyo9654]

Schools decision, not the teacher.

[@Phantom-mk4kp]

​@@grahamwalls2051But once the phone is destroyed, the teacher could claim anything. The teacher should only be able to one of three things, hand it over to the parents or police or request the pupil deletes it.

[@howardosborne8647]

The way this legislation is crafted is bonkers. Making teachers administrators of the law is wrong in all ways.

[@Phantom-mk4kp]

@@howardosborne8647 Agree I can't think of any other example where a citizen has this power to judge and sentence

[@Salam_Damai431]

Deftly handled, with exemplary courtesy.

[@melodymacken9788]

So, will there be a reply from the disgruntled party. Brilliantly said.

[@BlackBeltBarrister]

Had two. Lots of foul language and insults

[@ronnieb3351]

I never doubt what you say is true Daniel but doesn’t mean we don’t always like what we hear. Thank you for all your hard work

[@budgetnuclearweapons7858]

A lot of people are the same, but he does sometimes make mistakes you know. He says as much in the vid. To just dismiss anyone that challenges BBBs opinion as simply "not liking" his content, is a tad small minded.

[@ronnieb3351]

@@budgetnuclearweapons7858 I didn’t discard anyone’s views, what I said was of those of us who do do accept what he says don’t always like it

[@budgetnuclearweapons7858]

@@ronnieb3351 You "never doubt what he says is true".... and state that "we don't always like what we hear" ... That sort of implies that anyone disagreeing with BBB is only doing so on the basis that they don't like what he says.

[@lindaweber5599]

Thank you for doing this video. I am preparing a whistleblower report and it is terrifying because they already retaliated for a normal performance complaint (not returning phone calls until deadlines had passed and three follow up calls..). Then director of VR, the state civil rights coordinator, the governor's ombudsmans office, the dispute resolution coordinator, a supervisor all coordinated to disappear my written report and put the burden on me in multiple illegal schemes. You help clear my head out of their tactics strategies and get back focused on the criminal intent that is proven by their own documents and records.

[@Steven-jx7ch]

Ok, it’s interesting you are spilling here, aren’t these facts better held privately, makes for a more lucrative settlement imo?!

[@nudisco300]

If your kid is unruly and naughty then take responsibility for it instead of blaming everyone else.

[@truefoa]

Education Act 1996, over 500 sections, no wonder they issued guidance. Imagine having to learn all that on top Geography and French.

[@ukinvasion2012]

I would argue that section 7 is the most important for any parent to really educate their child.

[@breakablehandlewithcare]

Your professional opinions and insights are valuable.... and a welcome service to us, the public....

[@grahamheath3799]

When did schools become the upholders of the law? Teachers may or may not be trained to teach; but to interpret and enforce the law???

[@BlackBeltBarrister]

1996, it would seem …

[@grahamheath3799]

@@BlackBeltBarrister That's when the legislation was passed but trained ?

[@TheMissPoovey]

It really worries me to have these laws without a parent involved from the beginning. The parent purchased the phone, they don’t actually usually belong to the underage person. So how can the school do anything without the actual owner being present?

[@howardosborne8647]

What I see as very wrong here is permitting school teachers to act as jugde,jury and executioner without the pupil having access to redress. Any phone confiscated because it is accessory to a crime should be handed to the police. It shouldn't be in the teacher's gift to make arbitrary judjement on such matters.

[@noellelenihan4124]

Your a blackbelt Barrister, I trust your word for giving right advice ☺️and thank you 🙏 for advising what’s right and what’s wrong,💖💖

[@rogerking7258]

As a layman I remember previous videos in which you state that no-one, not even a police officer has the power to view or make you erase photos unless a court orders this. How does this square with a school's apparent power to view and erase files on an electronic device (which a camera generally is these days)? Does this mean that schools operate under some sort of uber-legislation that allows otherwise illegal behaviour, or have I misinterpreted something? Or is it even the case that the law is sometimes self-contradictory?

[@ryanwisbey3387]

You say opinions differ, however I find your reasoning sound and utilised it to.great affect

[@michaelcaldwell5786]

Thank you Daniel, for your wisdom, love and integrity. You are one of the good ones ❤

[@monkeynutchewer]

Where would the "Unlawful disposal of evidence" or "Perverting the course of Justice" come into this?

[@Marwolaeth01]

Shocker. Someone reads part of a law which they think supports their belief and stops reading. Unheard of.

[@robjmck]

Sadly, the school has the right to destroy perhaps evidence of bullying that a school is failing to protect children. The usual the state protects itself at the expense of the person!

[@pauleff3312]

I don't like thieves who hide behind the law

[@D0csavage1]

Unfortunately trolls are the scourge of the internet, the internet parasites. They are nothing more than time wasters.

[@annstar4306]

Thanku Mr BBB , very clear listening to you , people complain...in my experience they complain about something they are guilty of doing . 🤣. Did not understand their logic. Thank you for a very clear answer to their quandary 😀🙋.

[@BlackBeltBarrister]

Thank you 😊

[@IvyMike.]

Nothing better than A viewer comment debunk video, thank you Daniel, most informative.

[@colingale]

As a teacher who worked during the 90's we also had this "disposal act" , this covered items like pen knives, martial arts items, camcorder tapes (but not the camcorder ) , cassette tapes but not the recorder , other storage items which were taken included "gun magazine" , knife belt or similar blade holder, lock picking kits , porn and any of the playback or storage medium or recording device related .

[@the_once-and-future_king.]

Nice way of covering for bad/abusive teachers, or undeniable proof of bullying!

[@toshiroyamada2443]

Wait, so you can destroy evidence of the teacher's wrongdoing without worry? For instance, if a teacher was recorded beating up or sexually abusing a child under their care. That sort of seems like it would be a serious offense.

[@timesquare5473]

Scary stuff; when I was at school it was elastic bands and conkers 😁👍

[@Phantom-mk4kp]

I remember as a 10 year old on 4 day trip to France. All the lads who'd bought flick knives having to hand them over before we went through customs coming home

[@hazyblue69]

​@@toshiroyamada2443technically doing so would not be acting lawfully. And most deleted data is easily recoverable with the right software.

[@katiehill619]

I think all KZbinrs get ridiculous stuff like this - and I can't imagine trolling them with insulting notes. I love the stuff you provide legal background on, and I always learn something. I do laugh at the supposed internet experts.... its pretty funny sometimes.

[@mastersili]

Very shocked :))))))))))))

[@alexanderjohns1588]

‘I expected better of you’. Sounds very much like a teacher, at least the sort of teachers I had.

[@argiebarge7955]

"I cant believe its not barrister" should be the go to comment for these indicents.

[@ianmason.]

Does it come in small tubs with red tape and a seal around it?

[@how2pick4name]

I remember being behind a pc working on the server of a fairly big law company. The owner of said company was looking over my shoulder and said, I think it's amazing how you do all that stuff from the top of your head. (This was when we had to type a zillion character prompts lol) I turned around and she was stood in front of a bookcase with all of the law in it. I said, I think it's amazing you know all that shit in those books. She laughed ...

[@Scammagnet-Lorraine]

As always Daniel, Bringing the receipts. Well done Some people feel they know everything. They now have been educated. Policies & guidelines are not law.

[@prawnk]

I take my hat off to anyone like you who produces great content on KZbin etc., as you must have to deal with so much dross. You’ve got to have skin thicker than a rhino 😂

[@Rhr118]

❤️

[@andycommonsincanada]

Daniel, what a concise response to your viewers comments. Your explanation is a perfect example of why you are a Barrister and why I would highly recommend your services should circumstances arise.

[@BlackBeltBarrister]

Thank you 😊

[@RibeyeSusie]

Well done!

[@daviddyson8851]

No matter what you do someone always think they know better…great content keep it up

[@DannyBoy01ify]

I really enjoy watching your videos and it's a privilege to get free legal information from a barrister. I have come to accept in life that some people will want to jump in as soon as they think you've done something wrong but you don't hear from them to say thanks and what a great job you are doing for the other ninety nine percent of the time! Thank-you for your time and effort to keep us informed. It's much appreciated!

[@barbsdee3831]

Hear hear 👍🏼

[@spudhead169]

The problem a lot of people have is they don't like being told things they don't like and they project the role of the "bad guy" on the person telling them. All Daniel does most of the time is tell us his professional understanding of the law. Now we can like or dislike the law, but Daniel didn't write it or even necessarily agree with it, he's just telling us about it. I think some folk need to get that into their heads.

[@lordcharfield]

Most barristers I personally know are the most arrogant people on the planet, along with surgeons (present company excepted!). I’m not surprised that you get this sort of excrement from jealous would be rivals. I know that you’ll keep up the great work regardless! 👏👍

[@andrewgilbertson5356]

Good luck! Thank you.

[@Ultravox1981]

I think that you have answered the criticism very well. In my mind, you have always shown yourself to be professional, balanced and very knowledgeable. Keep up the good work.

[@chronicgaming3280]

BlackBeltBarrister please correct me if I have misunderstood, a school can confiscate a £500-1200+ smartphone, laptop, tablet etc based of something written in 1996 when the most expensive "electronic device" that could hold data was a 3½ inch floppy disk.. if so that shit needs bringing into the right century. Keep up the great content 😁👍

[@markhudson4510]

Mobile phones that could send and receive text messages existed in 1996.

[@chronicgaming3280]

@@markhudson4510 I don't doubt that but they not many of them would have been in the hands of students as we see kids with them today.

[@markhudson4510]

@@chronicgaming3280 I was a student in 1996 and on my second phone. Had the same number all this time as well.

[@pjcnet]

I think it's wrong for a school to dispose of property like a mobile phone and get away with it instead of giving it back later, but you are simply advising people of the actual law, you can't help people not liking it.

[@msjannd4]

👍😉

[@alanjenkins1508]

Unless it is an illegal object, a school would not normally do this. However there is a possibilty of the item being stolen, and the teacher would be protected from liability in that case.

[@roberts.wilson1848]

@@alanjenkins1508 parents must be notified and showed the evidence, and disposal to occur AFTER that if the parent accepts....also what is "illegal"? If it's drugs or weapons, clearly cops should be involved and parents face the proper repercussions (possibly even the child as a juvenile criminal)

[@anonemini319]

Just thinking about the job of writing all the guidance/laws/statutes/whatever (with all of their cross-references) in the first place makes my head hurt.

[@atlanticx100]

Once the phone or any other item has left the pupil's person. I would have thought the chain of custody would have been broken. I would have thought the legal team representing the pupil would have the perfect reason to get the evidence thrown out. Then the mobile phone returned to the family. As regards the search of the files that would be an interesting case for the Supreme Court. In my own opinion that law needs to be struck down as it appears to give the school more power than the police or court with not enough accountability.

[@Penddraig7]

When someone does a 5 second google search and suddenly become an expert on a subject. Sadly the internet is full of graduates of the university of 5 second google searches and they gravitate to social media comments to practise their newly acquired expertise

[@nickush7512]

Great video Daniel, thanks.

[@diana_lowthorpe]

Thank goodness you're here, I logged on to your channel 2 hrs ago but unfortunately your video wasn't there, all I received was a blocked message, saying this video is not available.... anyway I'm so happy you are here again.. Thank you so much for this video & so happy that you are back!! 😊

[@rosemarieross4277]

I'd prefer to listen to and believe what you say. Keep up the good work. Thank you for your video's

[@jbellfield]

That zooming in and out with my new medication is too much.

[@gypsygem9395]

I'm not on any form of medication and it is uncomfortable for me too !

[@markcruise]

Those regulations seem flawed. If they have (under the regulations) disposed of a phone because it’s been used in the commission of an offence, how can they then prove that it has been used in the commission of an offence to justify its disposal?

[@angryscottishidiot]

This the crux of a bigger issue. Teachers are not trained in Law or psychology and are making decisions based on their opinion of a rule or regulation. A lot of teachers are making mistakes in more important areas, such as gender, because of their own bias and misunderstandings.

[@madmick9205]

This why we retain the expertise of Barrister's. Although, I have met a couple of idiot Barrister's, but, they are quite rare. Thing is, A Barrister can be wrong, which is why we have appeal courts. But, Judges can be wrong too and so we have higher appeal courts. I actually think that the BBB Barrister is one the best Barrister's that I have listened to. He clearly is an expert, and I could well see him going on to be a Judge and a very high ranking one at that. The one thing that I can say is this. These people only really care about the law and the application of the law. But Daniel, the BBB Barrister, is also passionate about explaining the law to us mere mortals. This is information that is really expensive to get. Daniel is giving it away for free. We are very lucky to have him, and that is a fact..

[@BlackBeltBarrister]

Thank you for the thoughtful comment !😊

[@Oli-l5m]

Loved this video - we simplify so many things for public consumption, but at the end of the day, real life is complex, and there is no short cuts by just reading a TL:DR summary!

[@pauljames77777]

Keep on going Dan your advice is is spot on in my eyes There is always a few out there who think they know better

[@jerrygeorgopolis8015]

BBB, That was a lot of information on this subject, thank you ! All the best from the U.S. ps ..No this wasn't an e-mail from me.....

[@patrickwatters7555]

Who'd be a teacher, it's a mine field.

[@Sue-t3h]

Absolutely!

[@nicholaskay4162]

Reminds me of a recent video of yours. I wouldn't want to be the teacher in court defending disposing of a phone worth £1,000+ with just reasonable suspicion.

[@BlackBeltBarrister]

Realistically, they are not likely to do that, but the provisions are there for the most extreme cases.

[@seemorebeer2848]

HANG ON EVERYBODY ! Why the hell did we ever allow these kids to carry mobile phones around school in the chuffin first place !? 🤨 Are we that stupid!? What ever happened to discipline in this country. Possession of the said item DURING school hours is wrong and open to so many potential problems. Take the phones to school if absolutely necessary, BUT store them securely during teaching contact hours. Why must we constantly create these problems for ourselves !? Its not bloody rocket science is it ! 🤦🏼‍♂️🤨

[@paulqueripel3493]

How do they force the passcode out of the child so they can examine it? How do they then delete the file that has automatically been backed up to the cloud/streamed? The kid's probably more tech savvy than the teacher.

[@mercedesblack7828]

That's why many kids have a password. As for children having phones *destroyed* , I doubt it is carried out immediately as they would need proof. School rules are not law!

[@Commsfarage]

My thoughts are also they do not own said phone no children under the age of 16 own anything it's still the parents property.

[@mercedesblack7828]

@@Commsfarage Not old enough to have a contract?

[@Commsfarage]

@@mercedesblack7828 not from what I understand 18 upwards

[@davidbenton8775]

The extensive powers given to authorities (including schools) are little known but very broad ranging and leave huge potential for abuse. Staff members of schools should, in my view, not be able to seize, and retain property belonging to another person without much more justification than the vague guidelines of 'reasonable'. Reasonable to who? Imo, the options should be two, return to the owner, intact and unaltered, or hand to the police, who, along with prosecution services, are entrusted with such duties and trained for them.

[@rampak1]

This would appear to give teachers greater powers than the police in relation to mobile phones. The police cannot access or erase data on a mobile phone without a specific court warrant.

[@toshiroyamada2443]

And from what it sounds like the teachers only needs "suspicion" of the content even being on the phone.

[@howardosborne8647]

And what you raise is what I have serious concerns over.

[@davidcolin6519]

Yeah, and exactly the sort of powers that a parent is assumed to have. Never heard of "In loco parentis"? Thought not.

[@rampak1]

@@davidcolin6519 are you suggesting that a teacher has all the same powers over a child that a parent has?

[@wjf0ne]

@@davidcolin6519 Few if any schoolchildren can afford to go out and buy a mobile phone, they are usually the property of the parent. Destroy a phone I have given to my child and you'll find yourself in trouble whether the laws allows you to seize a phone or not.

[@galadriel4101]

Thanks for your videos you're doing a great job.

[@cindymelnyk8293]

Jeez, reading this just gave me a migraine of 😵‍💫🥴

[@julesboozy1603]

If the phone had been confiscated due to it possibly being used to commit a crime then the disposal of the phone could be construed as destruction of evidence pertaining to that crime. If the teacher knew of the crime then is that not attempting to pervert the course of justice? Just wondering

[@crowrage8929]

This is only applicable if they have good reason to do so, so if there was evidence that the police wanted it , they would have to give it to the police.

[@JNET_Reloaded]

They shouldn't be able to dispose fk all confiscate yes at start of day till end of day.

[@KarrierBag]

4:30 if used in this way surely they cannot dispose of an item if involved in a non legal / criminal thing?

[@kennethgreen2829]

It never fails to amaze me that there are people out there who think that they know more about the law than a person who has undertaken years of legal study and Pupillage before becoming a successful Barrister with his own set.

[@FAS1948]

Thank you, that was well worth watching.

[@janebuckland737]

👍👍👍 thanks

[@JohnSmith-wi7so]

Exhausting but very informative lol. Subscribed 😊

[@peaoui165]

So what is to stop a school changing their rules as to disallow a student holding a mobile phone of any kind, then confiscating the phones and either just retaining them forever or claiming to dispose of the item when they actually haven't? Seems like an oversight that allows the school staff to essentially steal property from their students.

[@Trebor74]

I can trace my phone. I'm sure if they get confiscated and sold I could still find it or permanently lock it.

[@mauricestanley5763]

Properly chastised, love it well done.

[@susanwilby1437]

Thank you for spending your precious time to explain the intricacies of law to us. I find your videos extremely interesting. Why anyone would be so rude and shirty in a communication is beyond me. If they feel they know better than yourself then they are utterly deluded in my opinion.

[@mumo9413]

Dan, plse could you explain? Is there a legal difference between schools, colleges & universities? Law vs policy? How can staff check a mobiles / electronic devices if they don't have a password? Say there is a minor caught up in drugs, surely if its a 'county lines' issue the evidence should not be erased/ destroyed? It could bring a conviction to the adults involved? Yet at the same time the child could receive a conviction that could destroy their life & education?

[@BertWald-wp9pz]

Don’t take any notice. A bit of common decency costs nothing. Some people enjoy being objectionable and the internet is a great place for them to indulge their spiteful tendencies. You do a great job. Nobody is perfect - the main benefit of your channel is that you do your best and provide useful, interesting and thought provoking content. What more can people expect!

[@AlmaGumundsdottir-gz1ik]

You are very professional. I think people who make such statements, are people who dont accept professions.

[@tommo9757]

Remember, "despose of" doesn't necessarily mean "destroy". Suddenly this becomes a great income source for the school. Before you know it, there will be targets and incentives for teachers confiscating phones

[@AnotherPointOfView944]

Thanks Dan for clarifying. But on a practical note: How is any member of school staff supposed to remember all these rules, guidance and laws on a day to day basis? Seems to me you need to a practicing lawyer to get your head around this stuff and safely implement it.

[@ianmason.]

Moreover how the flip did the idiots drafting this not think for one second of the poor teachers who would be required to deal with it? They could have at least asked an English teacher for a bit of advice on how to structure and write it to be comprehensible to, say, a PE teacher, or if that was too onerous, to a small wet dog.

[@johnmcbryde715]

quality work 👍

[@jimmydesouza4375]

Does this mean they'd legally be allowed to dispose of something like a blood soaked knife that they suspected as a murder weapon?

[@BUSHCRAPPING]

I noticed that too. Surely if the crime is bad enough to warrant disposal of the phone, then the phone should be given to the police as evidence

[@PriyaPans]

OR What is a teacher is having a relationship with a minor. And there's evidence on the phone? Teacher could potentially then destroy that phone? Edit: I say relationship but obviously this is abuse, I'm just adding that now to be extra clear

[@jimmydesouza4375]

@@PriyaPans It's only abuse depending on how hot the teacher is.

[@kimamey]

I'm a bit surprised that, in the case of a phone being used in relation to a crime, or the carrying of a knife, there isn't a duty to inform the police. Instead the item, which I'm guessing would be evidence of a crime, can be disposed of, thereby destroying the evidence.

[@jamescoburn6789]

I would imagine, these days, that attempting to remove a kid's phone, would result in a) SA allegations. b) An assault from child or parent.

[@chloek7754]

Ignore 👏👏👏 You’re One of the BEST❤️❤️❤️❤️ Thank you 👍👍👍👍👍

[@kenmerry2729]

It's nice to have clear decisive law that everyone can understand!

[@JaenEngineering]

Laws should ideally be written to be black and white (with a sliver of grey to allow for the edge cases) so they can be understood by everyone. But if they did that we wouldn't need lawyers and barristers, so instead they write grey laws that are incomprehensible to lay persons thus keeping themselves in business. This does bring up the issue of ignorance as a defence. Surely if they are to claim that ignorance cannot be a defence, then laws should be understandable?

[@noelward8047]

Does the law in question not worry you ?

[@kenmerry2729]

I was trying to be sarcastic and I believe we have too many laws and not enough common sense.

[@kenmerry2729]

I was trying to be sarcastic and I believe we have too many laws and not enough common sense.@@JaenEngineering

[@GrahamGreenwood-q3r]

Some will watch you walk on water and say it’s because you can’t swim :-) great job BBB

[@nikkirazelli3250]

If a device had "incriminating evidence" on it, wouldn't "disposing of it", mean they were guilty of destroying evidence?

[@adeptusmagi]

Isnt the permission granted to delete data or files a minefield as it could very well actually be encouraging the destruction of evidence

[@jackmccann9260]

Good job.

[@triple999fruitful]

Thank you, that was interesting.

[@peterlombard2292]

In relation to the allegation of "repeating lies", I have always found it interesting to know how, in law, lies are established. Furthermore, is it possible that being called a liar constitutes slander? It would seem that even if it is almost certain that someone is not telling the truth, the slightest possibility of genuine error would mean that it is almost impossible to prove.