Have YOU Been Sold Out to the BBC? Barrister Explains..

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[@robbomax1143]

6.44 Got it👌

[@TheJpf79]

You've got a fake account pretending to be you and asking people to text them, I've just reported it but it will probably need more than just me to do so in order to deal with it.

[@robbomax1143]

@TheJpf79 I've just received a notification of a "reply" with a link to your post above. Your post does not actually identify who it addressed to (or who it is a reply to). Is your post addressed to me? If so, where exactly do you think I've asked people to text me? If not, I apologise for any misunderstanding (but that is due to YT notifying me that you "replied").

[@zantas-handle]

The justification for the 3rd party 'Sagacity solutions' doesn't make much sense - if the email addresses they provide have been used to access BBC iPlayer, why does the BBC need another company to provide those email addresses that will already be logged via iPlayer?

[@TheJpf79]

@@robbomax1143 If you read what I said again, properly this time, you will see that I say "You have a fake account pretending to be you" which was too the channel owner whose post we are all replying too, you are not a fake account pretending to be the op, you don't have their name with a couple of numbers attached to it and obviously having actually read your own reply, you are not asking people to text you. Not sure why its notifying you that I've replied as I never clicked reply. The fake account I am reffering to is underneath my own comment on here, I was informing the channel owner in case they were not aware of it, as its something I am sure they don't want.

[@frossato]

Defund BBC

[@Queerz4Palestein]

Or just privatize it

[@frossato]

@Queerz4Palestein I'd rather see it being shut off than someone taking over.

[@robertcreighton4635]

Make it a subscription service like netflix I bet it would fail. Bbc bastards buggering children

[@davescottyhen]

they funded by the small hats they ain't bothered bro!

[@kenstevens5065]

I have said it for several years now that Auntie may well have some pretty spicy stuff safely tucked in her drawers collected over the years about the rich and famous, including those in and previously in Government. If the Government don't revoke or amend their charter whose terms the BBC seem to overide almost daily then my suspicions will remain.

[@keithwesley2471]

This sort of intimidation should be illegal!

[@robtheplod]

Backed by the UK Government......

[@robtheplod]

The BBC is granted exclusion from prosecution with regards to the letters it sends out. They are very careful worded to remain legal and the Government oblige the BBC to contact those not licensed regularly as part of the charter. You can test this by taking the letters to the police - they will be interested ...... until they see who sent them.

[@fabioq6916]

How is it intimidation?

[@sparrow_6177]

It is harrassment........

[@janb3641]

If the BBC offered a ubscription service we would not have deal with this bullying….

[@hael6986]

I bought a property that was empty for over 1 year. In the first week I got a letter stating it was "under investigation for watching TV" despite there not being a single electronic appliance in the house yet. Why is it even legal for the BBC to send out false and threatening letters? Any other business would be buried under millions of pounds of legal fees for such behaviour.

[@vinzo0913]

I had a positive experience with the tv license letters recently. I ran out of toilet paper in the middle of the night and was about to panic. Then, i remembered the BBC sent me a handy letter the day prior and it was most useful!

[@STORMDAME]

I have a solid fuel fire. They make great fire lighters.

[@Leesa111_0]

😂 😂

[@vinzo0913]

@@STORMDAME the best bit is no matter what you can trust that they'll send another

[@kaytagney702]

😂😂😂

[@LusciousTwinkle]

Classic top tip!!! Plus they are great for lining the cat tray when youre out of newspaper!

[@uksuperrascal]

When buying an item, Pay with cash, if asked for email, say do not have email, If asked for address, Say, I do not share that information unless it is a law, if the shop refuses to sell the item unless you give your information, boycott the shop.

[@2TONESKY]

Convert savings to gold and dig a big hole.

[@Puddleduck1]

Which shops are asking for your address when you buy something?! 😬 I've been asked for my email for an "E-receipt" but I just say "I'd like a paper one please" and they always happily oblige. Giving your address seems 🤯

[@pacochawa2746]

Ok

[@pauljackson149]

Ignore all letters and avoid the iplayer and all live TV in the same way as one would avoid the Archbishop of Canterbury .

[@DefCon12345]

AofC - haha love it! 🤣

[@Blatherskite824]

😂😂

[@junebb131]

😂 good one!

[@movarvo1217]

Top comment, how is he still in place?

[@victoriabrooks7009]

😂😂😂

[@RussEdgar445y7tlfj]

I'm BBC intolerant and cannot digest any BBC content without feeling sick. 🤢🤮

[@AzuraeLyonheart]

Pro Palestine and anti semetic BBC are more a reason they are trash.

[@cakehole53]

Ditto 🤮

[@clovermark39]

And me! It’s long lasting too! 🤮🤢

[@sharonliddy9439]

Me too

[@FunnyBunny-pd5xx]

For me, it is the now biased manner in which they present The News. 9 January 2024. Times of Israel. "BBC apologizes for report accusing of IDF "summary executions" in The Gaza Strip. THIS is not an isolated incident.

[@davidweatherhead1431]

It's time the citizens had a say on the BBC.

[@dercoss]

We do. Just stop buying a TV licence. Half a million people didn't renew last year. That's not all the people who don't have a TV licence, it's the new people opting out...

[@juliestanfield8433]

💯

[@randalldraco3822]

Issue is, government will subsidise them, because they need the propaganda tube. So we will pay it, directly or not, even when all quit paying.

[@scottanderson3751]

You are a slave,not a citizen-welcome to the real world ✌️

[@waynemoore5154]

Start by stop becoming a citizen

[@Clarissascloset]

After 30 years of having one, I cancelled my license about 3 months ago and made them refund me in full for this year.

[@urs1386]

I’ve just paid for a full year in fear of being prosecuted. When I went online to say I don’t need a licence I noticed that it included watching foreign channels online ie aljazeera. I don’t knock what it going to pop up online and automatically play so I wanted to ensure not being prosecuted. Very confusing. I don’t even have bbc iplayer on my devices but what about all these other channels. 😢

[@jamesruan913]

If the BBC AND UK GOV , want a fairer a system would be to have a licence to have an IPaddress and get rid of tv licence altogether

[@5heffPaul]

The problem I see with this is that EVERY website you visit presents you with a 'Cookie Question'. If you delve into the cookie settings, you will see something called LEGITIMATE INTEREST. Even if you select 'No' to the question about cookies, the permission button for 'legitimate interest' remains as 'Yes'. On average, you can spend 10 minutes going through every category to select No. It is infuriating!!!!

[@Threadbow]

You can select legitimate interest and click them all off too. I give up if it is more than a few clicks.

[@thenumber5bus]

Depends on the page used to select the options. Legit interest is down to data protection and used for those parties aligned with the webpage viewed to access information of yours.its all rubbish anyway

[@wraithneon]

It's what they count on. The websites in question don't care about you, they only care about how much money they can get for passing on your personal information.

[@crankypantsmcduff]

Dirty scumbags. I cancelled mine ages ago. I'm not paying for bad tv or to watch PDFiles giving us the news nightly.

[@nonoyorbusness]

Propaganda not news!

[@anneloving8405]

Well said

[@Liberty_Freedom_Brotherhood]

Exactly The people that knew about Savile, Edwards etc are just as guilty and not deserving of TAXPAYER money ! They should be in prison

[@sparrow_6177]

@@Liberty_Freedom_Brotherhood All part of the Government and corruption if you ask me.

[@juliestanfield8433]

In America, I threw my TV out of house years ago and gave TV to a thrift shop. I don't miss it. Felt liberating.

[@spacedoutdog]

5 years bbc free, my brain feels cleaner

[@frederickconnell6052]

And hundreds of pounds richer,,,,😂

[@jackmarshall2496]

I'm fast approaching 12 years, haven't missed it

[@oneshotrally]

8 years TV and BBC (tripe) free, when I catch a glimpse on what passes for TV entertainment at friends houses I realise that I've missed nothing whatsoever its utter garbage.

[@240soundwave]

@@frederickconnell6052 £847.50 based on this years price, to be exact.

[@RichardPain3]

Over a decade here. I do not watch terrestrial tv at all and do not miss it one bit. Just had a look at Saturday's programming - Alan Carr, Strictly and Michael McIntyre. Lol get fucked, I am gonna read a book.

[@cosmoshfa88savant66]

I will NEVER buy a TV license ,,, I just bin the letters...

[@adenwellsmith6908]

I report them as harrrasment and file them.

[@adenwellsmith6908]

My real name is Mr Occupier. I'm on the hook for millions in fines.

[@simplesimon5739]

​@@adenwellsmith6908I've been after you for a while. Pay up!

[@stevvieb]

@@adenwellsmith6908 Mine's Legal Occupier, I wonder if we are related

[@stephengirling7859]

LicenCe.

[@mib001]

I used to declare the Licence not needed but after the way they felt fit to harass me to redeclare it every 12 months I stopped that quite quickly, if I declare I don't need something then they need to stop harassing me because I'll tell them when I do need it and telling me that its not harassment doesn't change the fact they're wrong. I tried to do things by the books and they still tried to throw the book at me so now I've decided the book can burn.

[@TheDigger06]

Its one email/ form every year or so, fill it in ,your done,

[@mib001]

@TheDigger06 I declared once, needing me to declare every year is just pathetic, you bootlick the bbc if you like.

[@SampleTracks2224]

​@@TheDigger06bootlicker. If you've nothing to hide, you've nothing to fear. Am I right, comrade? Screw your BBC. The book is going to burn.

[@thegeezerrr2042]

Brilliant video sir . I know 2 women that have had domestic violence in their past and pay the TV license just so they dont have someone knocking on their doors.. They dont watch or access live TV but they would rather pay the fee than having some stranger knock on their door.. Ive tried to help them but they have just told me to leave the subject alone because they are happy to pay it, this cannot be right, it drives me mad.. Great video sir

[@jonyboyjpk]

Their past trauma is not the responsibility of tv licensing. Don’t get me wrong: knocking on doors etc is bad practice. But what you are saying is tv licensing shouldn’t knock on doors because of occupants trauma! So the same would apply to post men/women etc. You clearly ain’t thinking properly

[@gytosas]

@@jonyboyjpk when we expect parcels we check who's knocking. If not we just ignore it. all friends and relatives have our mobiles.

[@LusciousTwinkle]

Im sorry but such women are encouraged to stay victims. Its like a badge for some of them. They only knock on your door if you dont fill in the form saying you dont need a licence. Tell them if they are ever going to recover they MUST stop letting their abuser run their lives. Also, I NEVER answer my door unless I know who it is. Thats what doors are for! Keeping people out!!

[@uok6216]

​@@LusciousTwinklethey will always be victims. Not everyone can come out from abuse as superheroes.

[@imspyingonyou2243]

This is why we need to keep cash and say no to digital ID.

[@Maggy47]

Best comment 👌 👏

[@pyewackett5]

I work in a shop & always insist on cash & will tell every customer the reason why . I keep the msg short & sharp & hope it sinks in .

[@polina_piter]

That’s just one reason. There are more important ones, too. Vitally important.

[@aindriubradleymarshall6226]

If the state is involved ..... avoid like the plague.

[@DrEmilSchaffhausenThe3rd]

Your house must be quiet. Cold too.

[@gruffy4967]

@@DrEmilSchaffhausenThe3rdWhat part of the state provides heating or electricity? Or the radio, or sound?

[@seanh1661]

The System says do this and I do the opposite. Really getting hard when everything from Work to Life is hounding you none stop, as if you're a robot to consume !!!

[@SampleTracks2224]

​@@DrEmilSchaffhausenThe3rd do you get gas and entertainment from the government then? Jesus wept.

[@parade1996]

Stop funding the boy bothering corporation.

[@syracuseephelump9995]

There does seem to be a lot of boy bothering kiddie fiddlers working there.

[@LAMF24]

Huw better believe it!

[@schiz0phren1c]

Aye, the BBCP shouldn't be watched.

[@johnmckinlay9538]

Mary Berry is on £1.75 mil a year, Linekar on £1.3mil a year and Big cash prizes on the wheel.

[@herbalterrorist420]

“Boy bumming corporation”.

[@praetorian65]

We really need to take the BBC to court for the tactics of their contractors. They should have been upfront in the letters that the email address they were using for the data could have been associated with a previous occupant, rather than scare people into buying a licence.

[@AlaiaSkyhawk]

Gotta love how their process also completely glosses over the fact that anyone who knows your email can literally punch that email into iplayer and watch stuff on there despite said person not having any connection to you or your home address. Doesn't even need to be a previous occupant.

[@sarahferguson2876]

Don’t they need a password?

[@AlaiaSkyhawk]

@@sarahferguson2876 They create a login with any random email and set a password themselves.

[@gh8447]

@@sarahferguson2876 Yes. @AlaiaSkyhawk's assertion is nonsense.

[@makcity7850]

Not really, they also need the password too access the BBC account, so unless they that too, they can't use it. Unless they have access to that "old" email account, which is possible, but it probably was that that person wanted to watch the football and thought he wouldn't get caught. Also the iplayer logs the IP address as was shown in a recent case where a woman was prosecuted because her niece logged into her own account at her aunties to watch it and her auntie didn't have a licence.

[@AlaiaSkyhawk]

@@sarahferguson2876 I think the point I meant is being missed. You yourself don't need to have an iplayer account, someone can just create one themselves using your email.

[@aj-jc4cv]

The BBC should be a subscription service. But there again how will the government deliver their constant propaganda?

[@polina_piter]

Excellent point. Why isn’t it? The time has come for this.

[@d1btd3265]

Funny how everything has gone up in price, except for TVs.

[@20quid]

If it were propaganda then why didn't its output change from being hard-right before July to being hard-left after July? Surely if it were government propaganda its editorial policy wouldn't have remained consistent even though governments have changed.

[@tmog1000]

@@20quid hard-right and BBC should never be put in the same sentence.

[@Hypathia-g8h]

@@20quidDid you watch Brexit and Trump outcomes? They were choking on it.

[@LuxFerre4242]

The problem is the mere existence of these "data brokers". The very concept of companies who's sole purpose is to process and trade people's personal data needs to be abolished.

[@billbhein2949]

Yes, these companies should be closed down. Why would anyone want all their private information to be spread far and wide around the world.. Hackers must think they are in dream land with all this information being freely available to them..

[@DrEmilSchaffhausenThe3rd]

What a very anti-capitalist stance. You must be a lefty-liberal type!

[@aetherblackbolt1301]

Oy, stop noticing that data brokers are evil. You better not notice that money brokers are even worse

[@mmcd256]

​@@billbhein2949and the point of this video is showing that the information can be well out of date in regard to using addresses as the main reason for acting on it.

[@tomwinterfishing9065]

Absolutely. I can’t believe such intrudion is legal😡

[@FunnyBunny-pd5xx]

23 July 2024. The Guardian reported, "Half a million households cancelled BBC Licence fee last year"

[@DefCon12345]

Yep, and I reckon that figure will be much higher for this year. Huw Edwards, who they decided to give a pension to - played a massive part in people cancelling (especially with his pathetic sentencing). So the Blackmailing B Corp shot themselves in the foot for their actions...

[@YT-channel42]

​@@DefCon12345after seeing the number of posts that flooded X after the bias Chris Kaba documentary I'm sure there will be more.

[@FunnyBunny-pd5xx]

@@YT-channel42 The US Presidential Election. 5 November 2024. I believe, the early hour coverage of 6 November, in relation to the above, the respective and collective disgraceful and shameful conduct, of the Presenters, will prove a "further nail in The BBC cxffin"

[@MrDblStop]

Hey I'm a statistic 👍

[@marabethcarrington7525]

I have just stopped! I can no longer in all consciousness continue to give them my money!

[@WhiteDieselShed]

If you do NOT want your data shared tick the box, but if you DO want your data shared tick the box... No matter what you do they WILL share your data. Something needs to be done that any company collecting your data should inform you exactly what they have about you without you asking.

[@DJRockford83]

Admitting to something out of fear of the state punishing you more harshly if you don't. Sounds VERY familiar 😡

[@DaveStockton1]

Sounds like a fishing excercise.

[@ianroberts8327]

companies like Sky and Virgin need to give their customers opting out of BBC and live content on there TV packages

[@barryfoster453]

Yes, live streaming. However, I'm still waiting for someone to explain to me what you buy when you purchase a Sky or Virgin package...because you still get adverts. Seriously, I don't understand it. You're paying to get TV...but have to watch ads. You don't have to pay (apart from a licence) to watch ITV, CH4 (though why would you?), CH5, etc. So why do Sky and Virgin charge, yet still run ads?

[@Tommi-C]

It wouldn't matter, if you watch any other live TV from any one else you need to buy a licence. Answer is to not watch any of it at all. It is all brain rot anyway.

[@bipolarminddroppings]

@@barryfoster453 Virgin charge you for access to the channels via their hardware, they in turn pay those channels for the right to broadcast them. The channels themselves run the adverts. Are you really so dumb you don't understand how this works?

[@joshsanders6891]

​@@Tommi-C Or maybe people should just watch television and not pay the licence and the BBC can just go fuck itself 🤷‍♂️

[@majordelays4909]

Use a diff email address for every account

[@blackislepeastoo]

Time for a 'class' action on the BBC.

[@robtheplod]

no chance... the BBC is a Government protected body...

[@polina_piter]

And we know just the lawyer to head it up!

[@brianlopez8855]

Illegal communications under the Telecommunications Act.

[@mandrakejake]

Best of luck with that!

[@michaelmiller5387]

I purchased this INCOGNI three months ago Dan and I was stunned how many companies had data on me. Now its all clear and IINCONGI is just chugging away in the background protecting me. Thank you

[@tomf4547]

We're you able to log in immediately? All I've just got is a receipt from paddle, a payment processing company.

[@GreatWhiteSharkey]

This exact thing happened to me but for a slightly different reason. I don’t have a TV license but my elderly mother, does as she watches and records live broadcast television. Fine, whatever. As she is elderly, she’s quite the technophobe. She has barely any idea of how to use certain applications and she wouldn’t know how to send an email if you stuck it right under her nose, so innocently, I set up a BBC iPlayer account so that she could access those services from her home. I, however only having one email address at the time, used this to declare my no license needed declaration and had this exact same issue. I think it’s an absolute cheek that they contact you like this as I have never and will never watch anything relating to the BBC and do not watch or record any other live broadcast media. I’ve now learned my lesson and created an account with a bespoke email address for her, but still I think it’s rather cheeky that they do this to people and scare them into submission.

[@iancarrington1967]

The real insult is the fact you need to pay for the biased broadcasting company just because you watch rival channels. It’s like paying a fee to Tesco in order to shop at Morrisons . De fund the BBC, don’t pay the tax on viewing.

[@stu7399]

Good point! I play by the rules and now I watch zero "terrestrial tv". So Channel 4 and STV are suffering due to the rules imposed by the BBC.

[@LittleBallOfPurr]

This is why I can't watch GBNews live. It baffles me that it's legal for the BBC to hold their competitors services to ransom, but the only way I can keep legally not paying the BBC is by not watching GBNews.

[@SJLR1234]

Can someone explain that to me, it baffles that you need a license to watch rival TV channels.

[@tmog1000]

@@LittleBallOfPurr GBNews is not a broadcast channel it's youtube so why can't you watch it?

[@monkian]

@@tmog1000 It is a broadcast channel number 236. The keyword there is live , device is also irrelevant.

[@danielclark-hughes692]

I don't watch any live TV, with the amount of streaming services there's no need to anymore. And I certainly don't watch BBC content.

[@sarapinto9589]

Same😊

[@lj4339]

I agree .The few people that catch my attention have left, retired or got yoked by the over woke.

[@mrsmerily]

just curious how it works... if you dont have "old tv" home and but you have smart tv what you watch basically over interent... I dont know youtube, netflix, pureflix what ever.... you dont have to pay?

[@lj4339]

@@mrsmerily do you use the BBC, or another main channel app then they I'll get you on tat

[@azillliasmith2734]

@@mrsmerilyyou pay for your telly and the nexflix or whatever you like and the internet connection ......

[@robofclanlennox]

We binned the telly 16 years ago. Just stop watching it.

[@LewieLeway]

Perhaps someone should take them to court for transmitting data to their property without permission?

[@titan2583]

Time we started a Go Fund Me and took the BBC TO COURT ON BEHALF OF ALL THE PUBLIC

[@jameschu8376]

The BBC are very well versed in making legal action against them phyrically expensive

[@ChilliJonCarne]

Glad you looked at this. I talked about this the other and mentioned hoping you would.

[@BlackBeltBarrister]

Indeed! I’ll grab the link for the description

[@MCNOISE666]

Legend.

[@jonevans4331]

Glad you guys are fielding this topic. I think the whole chasing letters is a form of harassment. Nevertheless I do like to collect and file every letter. Still waiting for a visit 10 years on.

[@SGProductions87]

>someone mentions TV licensing >rustling noises from nearby bushes >chillijoncarne has entered the chat

[@anonnemo2504]

Indeed you did, CJ. That was an excellent video too. Memo to both of you; though, "Sagacity" is pronounced "suh·ga·suh·tee". The main lesson to be drawn from this excellent video is NEVER to give permission to anyone, with whom one deals on line, permission to share your data. There will be far more egregious cases of the use of such data out there. Prima facie, this practice, including the example given here, may fall foul of GDPR and merits further enquiries.

[@ROCKY44]

The notion that an email address can be linked to a property is quite bizarre. An email address is linked to an individual. Not a property.

[@Threadbow]

The very postcode, exact locstion. What you search for, who you are nearby to. What you search for. With AI only get worse. Oh they get permission to your microphone and camera too. 😁 Big brother

[@etiennedeklerk]

When you purchase online you provide your physical address and email address. It's good enough for them to send a letter.

[@jamesn0va]

Not even that. Emails can be shared and generated easily. They are st most linked to other emails. They effectively are unique names or identifiers

[@koncorde]

Actually incorrect. Whenever you register for, say, car insurance or home insurance, or provide your details to your bank etc you are asserting that those details are not just yours, but also the means of contacting you at that address. Similarly subscription services, delivery services and so on all require verifying your contact details against an address. This is why they clearly state it may be associated with a previous resident AT THAT address who have used it in such a manner.

[@suminshizzles6951]

Yeah i latched onto that as well. It only works for them if you have your details listed with the email address and they can cross reference it. Otherwise they dont have a leg to stand on in court if they are relying on an email address alone to verify identity.

[@Dr.Gunsmith]

They need investigation and taking to court.

[@mandrakejake]

Yes, but this practice is probably allowed under the small print of the contract with BBC you make when creating an account. I assume.

[@growlinggrowler-c2v]

It wasn't back when I created an account.

[@JackRalp96]

@@growlinggrowler-c2v but it's very likely you've accepted a updated terms of service.

[@deldia]

@@mandrakejakewe need a legal system that stops overreach like this. They’re a broadcaster and have common approaches to these problems. They don’t need to go buying 3rd party data and trying to match emails of people to addresses etc.

[@mandrakejake]

@@deldia I totally agree with you, I was merely pointing out that this is probably currently allowed (even though it shouldn't)

[@deldia]

I think you’re right here. Thank you for calling it out. Outrageous.

[@simondymond8479]

Two things anyone can do for a better life. No 1. Never ever use Facebook/Meta. No 2. Avoid legacy media and choose your own media.

[@brendagore1115]

In Spain you don't pay for a tv licence and get all the english channels and many more we get

[@iancarrington1967]

I live in Spain and am unlikely ever to return to the UK. If I did I would not buy a licence, I literally hate the BBC, home of state propaganda and nonces.

[@anainesrodrigues]

Portugal is the same

[@jwheeler9991]

I wonder if the channel may pay BBC something and that's why you don't pay independently?

[@ChoppingtonOtter]

​@jwheeler9991 I believe folks in Eire watch it free of charge too.

[@pup6728]

Is that via normal aerials or satellite?

[@jennybrown7717]

Dear BB Barrister. Thanks for all you do.

[@25MHzisbest]

Welcome to the UK!

[@timgstar3585]

The UK where things are not ok lol

[@DaRanged]

Would it therefore be possible for the public, who do not have nor need a TV license, raise a group litigation order and sue BBC TV Licensing for harrasment and use of 3rd party data brokers which are providing/processing the people's data illegally?

[@limitedmark]

Thank you , just shows how contempt and disgusting this organisation is , it is long past it's useful time, and all involved should be disbanded.

[@Dogfacedbloke]

We want the BBC to send out those letters. Every letter sent costs them money, not to mention the actual 'enforcement' visits, so every time a letter is sent the BBC loses money.

[@robtheplod]

not a problem as enough ill informed people still subscribe....

[@MsRedfarmer]

Ducking £1.20 to send a letter these days. I wonder how much the BBC pay??? I must have cost them hundreds over the last 15 years, I never paid for the licence.

[@cakehole53]

Our money 🖐

[@Greenielid]

@@cakehole53more fool you for giving them your money 😂

[@robtheplod]

@@cakehole53 your money........ i dont subscribe...

[@robtheplod]

NEVER, EVER, EVER contact BBC/TVL to tell them you dont need a licence and hence automatically go on the 'No licence needed' database. Simply cancel your direct debit, that is ALL you need to do - you do not need to contact anyone or fill in any online forms, regardless of what the BBC website 'implies'.

[@Captain-Cardboard]

This is the way.

[@PeterFrayne-o4n]

@robtheplod. It’s as simple as that. I don’t get it why people get their underwear in a twist over tv licensing. As you said, cancel your direct debits, bin their threatening letters and close the door in their faces silently if they decide to visit.

[@SedriqMiers]

Its alright living on a barge of no fixed abode, btw any room ?

[@robtheplod]

@@SedriqMiers i dont....

[@jameshawkey342]

Exactly what I have done , letters monthly go in the bin , I don’t watch live tv , this is my choice , I’m not obliged to tell anyone that I don’t watch live tv . The best course of action is to not have any correspondence with these people in any way , they try to mislead you and trip you up and catch you out ,

[@The_Penguin_Overlord]

Legally TV License Free Since 2007.

[@barryfoster453]

Since 2014. 👍

[@kuzukuzu2615]

@@barryfoster453 How, please tell us?

[@Wilkins_Micawber]

He’s not saying TV licences are free. He is saying he has been free of a TV licence. In that he doesn’t have one. Just like me.

[@ryanlongley5052]

@@kuzukuzu2615 even if you want to do it by the book so to speak you can do it online and notify them you no longer watch any live tv on any platform and no bbc player content, every 2 year you notify them, simples

[@Michael-Dolences]

​@@kuzukuzu2615 it's pretty simple. You stop watching live TV and don't pay the licence

[@patricksavage8519]

Being a pedant, don't think the company is spoken as two words 'saga city' but as 'sagacity' which is a noun and means wise, shrewd and showing good judgment. Not something you'd associate with the BBC nowadays.

[@RobCrowley85]

Or ever, but good catch on that!

[@julianblock5436]

Thank you, I was scrolling to see if anyone had pointed this out as it was driving me nuts.

[@sarahalborn6986]

After having 3 threatening letters in the last mth , I called them to tell them yet AGAIN I don’t have a tv and hsvent had a tv for 20 years . Iv been told I have to ring every year to tell them I don’t have a tv . Which is ridiculous, I said if I ever got a tv I would get a licence! But apparently that’s not good enough , I was told by the woman on the phone that it was a criminal offence if I didn’t call every year to inform them I don’t have a tv .

[@Clodhopping]

Haha they are their own funny comedy show..😂

[@nonoyorbusness]

Stopped paying the TV licence when the Boris and the Three Stooges show was aired, worst program ever!

[@lulabellegnostic8402]

The mistake here is in contacting the bbc grifters and their subsidiarity money grabbers. The more they have to spend on sending out their threatening letters and goons, the less they have in their paycheques and pensions. Treat every letter as a victory. And if they send you a non- prepaid envelope for reply it is a godsend. Make sure it weighs plenty for maximum return payer cost. I recommend soaked lasagne sheets.

[@eyesnme]

Like your way of thinking!

[@danielmarshall4587]

Oh now THAT, has brought me a smile thank you.

[@ToasterDude1]

Haha, thanks for a good laugh. What s brilliant idea soothe the return letter.

[@guyholme1287]

Thank you! I laughed out loud at this!

[@raketensven3127]

Yep. Either ignore or out petty them.

[@samprice6735]

I repeatedly get threatening letters from them about an empty property I have and they will not listen. My partner has paid hers for years when she doesn’t need one because if she is prosecuted it could affect her job. They are a disgrace. The letters get more threatening every time and they did the same to me 14 years ago at a different property I had that was empty so this is clearly just how they operate and not a mistake.

[@Hypathia-g8h]

They put the mafia to shame. This is nothing more than protection money.

[@10aDowningStreet]

Same here, we don't use the BBC at all, haven't for over 15 years, but GF has a pretty high up job in which squeaky clean integrity is vital (obviously that means she's not a politician, MSM journalist, religious leader or police employee)... So we pay the bribe under duress to protect our livelihoods. They should have this absurd draconian power removed, people should be able to choose to subscribe or not, and all of us should be able to sue for that money back, interest and the stress it has caused. But propagandists gotta propagandise.

[@easeclaps9390]

The BBC made one huge miscalculation when they started sending letters. The miscalculation was them thinking I fear prosecution 😂😂😂

[@JackosJingles]

I recently declared no license needed because I wasn't watching the BBC, my wife wasn't keen but with continued cost of living we decided we were wasting money . I de registered my BBC account before we declared. So I don't watch any BBC or I player content I don't even watch live You tube output or from anywhere else. However I'm still awaiting a visit from enforcement. About a decade ago after being homeless we ,moved into an address my wife contacted the BBC to say we didn't need a license at the time we had no internet and our phones weren't smart, however we then had a constant supply of threat letters. It's outrageous the BBC can claim over a live broadcast anywhere in the world. Defund the BBC.

[@robtheplod]

Dont waste your time contacting the BBC.... why do you keep informing them?

[@JackosJingles]

@@robtheplod My wife did because she thought it was the right thing to do. Most people consider that if you make a declaration that's that. I have told her repeatedly that if they roll up not to talk to them.

[@cathybrowning2310]

It's the threat contained within that letter that will have many genuinely innocent people buying a license whether they need to or not. Disgusting behaviour. I hope someone takes the BBC to court for what appears to be the abuse of the GDPR.

[@robtheplod]

People need to wise up and and not be afraid.

[@polina_piter]

Especially the elderly.

[@rd9337]

If everyone just stops paying the licence, it wouldn't exist!

[@robtheplod]

there are too many frightened and ill informed people who will always pay...... the BBC depend on them

[@Skate-Steve]

24 yrs and counting and no bullshit "license"

[@annetta594]

It’s time that happened - I have only recently realised that the BBC is the most Biased Broadcasting Corporation. But now I believe they should be renamed the BBCC - the most Biased, Blasphemous Corrupt Corporation!

[@EdOeuna]

The government will just introduce a new tax to cover their propaganda machine.

[@wirdy1]

The Aussies tried to introduce a TV licence, nobody paid it.

[@ToniCherub]

Nice that you got a subject access request I’m about to do it myself as I’m sick of them sending me letters and don’t have time to watch tv as I’m a full time carer for my son who is complex care. I’m at my wits end with these people. Thank you for sharing this wonderful information.

[@YT-channel42]

So the lesson learnt is to use an email account with iPlayer that you dont use for anything else, and more importantly one you don't use to pay your tv license!

[@fraf49]

I've never watched TV for 18yrs. I also stopped reading national newspapers in the 90's when I realized they were comics for adults.

[@malvoleus]

Comics for adults? You must mean the News of the World, buses on the moon, Freddie Star ate my hamster & the like. Personally I prefer the Beano

[@Sedum54]

A lot of division is caused by the propaganda of TV and newspapers. The friends I have who read the Guardian or watch TV are the most unaware of reality. You were way more aware than me. I stopped paying bbc 10 years ago.

[@derekmcmanus8615]

Viz

[@fraf49]

My thoughts entirely Nanu 🖖.

[@DavidGirling]

What is needed is a law that every company holding personal data has to notify every person on their lists of what data is held, and why it is held, at least once a year, with a simple link for people to say they no longer want their data held by that company. The same with cookies on computers.

[@Threadbow]

Just delete cookies

[@berneysharp3940]

@@Threadbowthere’s a lot more data out there than cookies.

[@WhoAmEye_WhoAreEwe]

@@berneysharp3940 cakes?

[@mandowarrior123]

Link to agree they are allowed to keep it at least else they'll send them to the void. But there are thousands that share and duplicate your data, and they can make more. You'd be spammed to death.

[@Julia-uh4li]

​@@WhoAmEye_WhoAreEwe Yeah, crumpets and scones, too! 🫤

[@irritatedmushroom2]

Best thing to do with any TV Licensing agent, or individual acting on their behalf, who contacts you, is to avoid any and all communication with them. Do not respond to their letters, do not answer the door, nothing. Leave them no opportunity to get any data about you. They have no case if they have no data. If they have no data they can’t do anything.

[@Beckiner67]

BBB always says …don’t ignore letters. 🤔🤔

[@tyronecox5976]

Of course he does, he's a Barrister working for Shitun,Gods law is cause no harm cause no loss, Barristers ignore this meaning they belong to Shitun who controls the banks and BAR he works for.​@@Beckiner67

[@MikeEves]

@@Beckiner67 What would happen? Clue: nothing

[@paulatreides0777]

@@Beckiner67do not engage with them.

[@Beckiner67]

@@MikeEves thank you for your reply

[@freedomofchoice3606]

It's amazing how people outside of the UK mainland are able to watch the BBC and UK channels without a telly tax license. The people of Gibraltar (UK) have been license free for years.

[@Si74l0rd]

Too expensive to send threatening letters to the outliers lol.

[@Blatherskite824]

The Incogni BBB suggests works absolutely perfectly...I was getting over 20 spam calls a day....after a few weeks it's down to Zero....well worth it, you even get monthly reports of how many 3rd party companies (being polite there) have had your data removed ...Its very good. Sorry BBB...great upload as usual 👍🏻💪🏻

[@DeltaMikeTorrevieja]

BBC's initial correspondence should have disclosed the email address and the uncertainty and given a path forward other than getting a licence for those mismatches. Also the unlawful data use should be investigated.

[@pcat1378]

We imprison people who post on Facebook so what do you all expect??

[@MrSkeptik-z5r]

I expect nothing and ignore fartbook.

[@TonySpike]

​@@MrSkeptik-z5r thank you for that contribution, short but pointless 😂

[@fenrifegads5571]

Only if they are white and native.

[@tyronecox5976]

Yes,this geezers posse jails them so how can he be trusted, certainly not righteous is he.

[@pcat1378]

@@tyronecox5976 Solicitors or Barristers cannot put anyone in prison.

[@adenwellsmith6908]

I just reported all the letters via a police website. The result was the letters stopped. Reference number and date written on the letter, filled away

[@FolkinghamRob]

I have received several letters from the BBC stating that I’ve been watching iPlayer - I have not! I don’t watch any live content, if I want to watch Rugby, I go to the pub. I’ve declared twice that I don’t need a license and yet they still continue to send me letters. The BBC needs to be defunded.

[@FolkinghamRob]

@ unfortunately it’s got my name on it - and I still wiped my arse on it 🤔

[@tech10k14]

Any other business operating these practices would be fined and sued out of existence. Do NOT pay the extortion tax!

[@Dazuk2023]

Why should we pay any licence for BBC content already paid for by the license payer and sold abroad ? Where is our share or rebate from the profits?

[@southerncomfortuk]

It would be helpful if an M.P. Would raise this aspect of the licence fee scam in parliament (if they truly wish to represent fair treatment of their constituents).

[@robtheplod]

@@southerncomfortuk You wont get any MP to discuss the TV licence.

[@pup6728]

@@southerncomfortukStuff like this gets discussed in the CMS Select Committee - plus they drag in the people at the top of the BBC/C4 for a grilling.

[@pup6728]

You'll find the answer in the BBC annual report. For what it's worth, the BBC lost £120 million last year.

[@fenrifegads5571]

@@robtheplod You can't even get them to discuss why we are pissing billions away in foreign wars that have nothing to do with us. Or why we pay france to ferry illegal criminals into our waters to be picked up by the coast guard. Or why the coast guard doesn't guard the coast.

[@annvalentine-pryce7572]

The BBC emailed me a couple of years ago informing me they would be deleting my account because I wasn't using iplayer, but the threatening letters keep coming even though I don't watch or record live tv. I watch cooking channels, property development, etc, and definitely not iplayer

[@MrSkeptik-z5r]

what's for dinner?

[@frankspeakmore7104]

It's interesting that when you innocently purchase something, and the cookies ask to keep your data, this information is then used for investigation into an offence of "No TV licence". Maybe if the cookies explained that it can be used by the BBC for prosecution, then the person about to tick the "yes I consent" box will be better informed and press "No I decline". I feel that by not engaging at the doorstep or responding to any letters leaves them frustrated, and that's a good thing.

[@foxstrangler]

Some of the cookies, purportedly giving the opt out, will not process your request further until you agree to all options.

[@frankspeakmore7104]

@@foxstrangler I experienced that before. There must be an algorithm that can block out the BBC gaining details? It still feels wrong that's the way the operate.

[@mcmkerr-peterson1329]

Taken your advice and subscribed to Incogni. Very impressed with the speed and efficiency. Thank you.

[@melodymoore9765]

I’m 68 years old. Retired Nurse with a huge problem with the BBC. I pay for Netflix. My son bought me a Firestick. I hate the BBC and on Principle never watch their Channel or iPlayer. Law abiding citizen doesn’t want to be prosecuted. Survivor of child abuse here and I’m making myself ill thinking that I’m paying paedophiles salaries and pensions. Please help me to get rid. I like to pay my way but I choose not to use their services. Yet I’m afraid not to pay. That’s wrong.

[@lindagray7896]

BBC seems to be above the law - in all sorts of areas

[@SirJimmySavileOBEKCSG]

Now then, now then!

[@gavinlee2742]

At what point does this become a mis-selling scandal like PPI and we get compensation?

[@robtheplod]

How can you get compensation for something you pay willingly? Just cancel your direct debit.....

[@gavinlee2742]

Pay willingly or receive increasingly threatening letters, and, as had been demonstrated, not exactly clear or misleading letters. Not to mention the ‘fast-track’ SJP.

[@Demonarrows1]

its govt backed so never

[@robtheplod]

@@gavinlee2742 just ignore these...

[@mal6232]

Two general principles then - 1.Remove your authority for your data to be used for commercial purposes. 2. Change your email address regularly.

[@stuartthornton3027]

I haven't watched or recorded live TV for 6 years now. I refuse to fund an organisation that sheltered and enabled multiple 'people' of questionable character. Operation Yew Tree identified over 300 victims! How many victims never came forward?

[@makeRabbitsAProtectedSpecies]

Why should you have to buy a TV licence to fund the BBC just for watching some other company's live TV? How is that fair?

[@suewood8538]

We all ought to stop paying the extortioners.

[@markgadsby5568]

Have done. I am starting to judge people who still do 😂

[@MikeEves]

It's opt in, not opt out. I've never opted in

[@Sedum54]

No licence for 10 years now. I regularly had guests who stayed and used their phones or computers here. Some watched BBC. I checked and I was not responsible for them. Just thought I would add this as others may be concerned as I was.

[@keepinformed]

BE CAREFUL when buying a new TV as well . The company I went to started requesting my personal info , when asked why they actually said for TV licence

[@robtheplod]

thats odd, this practice/requirement ended years ago......

[@DarkHelmetgaming]

Give a fake email address and any postcode you can think of when buying a new TV 👍

[@gmo4250]

No business is required to do that now. They will only "need" your name and address for marketing. Ultimately it doesn't matter anyway, TVL know every address that is not registered and it's not an offence to own a TV.

[@smithge4uk]

@@gmo4250 No offence in owning a TV to watch your Box Sets on….

[@rynnziolkowski4642]

So what I've gathered here (American unfamiliar with UK television intricacies) is the BBC basically sent someone a letter openly admitting they are attempting to extort them. Glad I live across the pond.

[@BobDiggler76]

Excellent video Daniel, as always 👍 Couple of points: (1) What everybody should do now is make a GDPR data request to Sagacity solutions. (2) A lot of people say that they don't need a TV licence to try to stop the letters arriving. However this is a clear example of when making a declaration either way is actually used against people. I think sometimes giving no information whatsoever is quite often the best course of action, as whatever answer you give cannot then be used against you. What do you think?

[@nickdawson9270]

Thank you. This is clearly a VERY serious issue for the many people who live in rented or multiple occupancy houses/apartments and frequently move for career reasons. Very useful advice. The BBC should not be financed thru taxation. That’s an anachronism.

[@robtheplod]

Th BBC isnt funded by taxation. Its funded by people who keep paying.... we all have a choice.

[@nickdawson9270]

People who watch live non-BBC content do not have a choice. A practical admin compromise in the days of BBC1, BBC2 and one independent channel is now outdated and unfair. Since 1982 that is no longer the situation. BBC content is no longer the major source of entertainment etc that it once was.

[@mmcd256]

​@@robtheplod but it has been like a tax with threat for non payment hence all the palaver.

[@user-dd7fw8ox3c]

When I move into a new property, I send a letter to the BBC withholding my name, just giving the address, I notify them that I do not require their services, and I withdraw their "implied right of access" to this property, and failure to abide by this will open them to prosecution for trespass. Yours sincerely the occupier. I get a standard response saying they will check again in 4 years time. Then I never hear from them again.

[@mandrakejake]

That a great idea. Could we do this on a mass scale 'on behalf' of everyone in the UK?

[@LucyKelly-jh5is]

Incredible! Glad it works for you! They do what they want with me, though. So do the police.

[@Tailssonic1999x]

There is no implied right of access, and your threat of prosecution means absolutely nothing, nothing to either the police or the BBC

[@RodPascoe]

@@Tailssonic1999x you might want to check that mate.......

[@fishevans6417]

@@Tailssonic1999x Do you have a path and a doorbell? there is an implied right of access to the property right there for some one to ring your door bell and indicently look through your frount windows to see if your there (or have a TV). This right is upheld by the law, you can however revoke the implied right of access verbaly or preferably in writeing. at which point they cant step on your property at all with out risk of prosecution for trespass

[@gitfoad8032]

Remember that 'well-recieved' BBC licence threat advert "We know where you live."? Can't find a copy of that anywhere.

[@johnristheanswer]

Remember that well known phrase " i before e, except after c "?

[@gitfoad8032]

@@johnristheanswer - bane of my life that is.

[@RobCrowley85]

​​@@johnristheanswerthere are more exceptions to that rule than adherents to it. Granted, received isn't one of those exceptions. But why focus on that and not the overall point?

[@SharonaPJ]

I got a letter just today saying that if I watch Netflix or Amazon Prime, I MUST buy a TV License??? WTF???

[@icouldbewrongicouldberight]

Learn what must actually means. Hth

[@hopelessatusernames]

I got an email saying my email address had been used to access iPlayer. "Oops" the email said. I applied to the BBC for the viewing data. It showed views of shows I'd never seen, from locations I'd never been to, on devices I've never used. There's more than one way those claims can be wrong!

[@BedsitBob]

I could quite legally have (and use) an I-Player account, without holding a TV Licence, if I only use it at a licenced location, such as a friend/relative's address, my works canteen, a hotel I'm staying at on holiday, etc.

[@margaretgreenwood4243]

Will the Manchester Airport Two get charged?

[@Bobbybooboo505]

Oohhh you can’t say that, you might hurt the accused feelings… two tier justice in this starmer broken country..

[@martyndawson7484]

Labour are hoping this will go away. We nned to make sure it doesn't.

[@ladymuck2151]

I cancelled my TV licence and ignored all their letters. Eventually they came to my door and I let them in to prove that I don’t watch the BBC. I’ve since been told I didn’t have to let them in, but I don’t regret it. All I have is a firestick and he could see I never tune in. It was very satisfying. I’ve not heard from them since

[@DoktorLorenz]

They have as much power to come in to your house as I do, would you let me just walk in and look inside you house. 😊

[@growlinggrowler-c2v]

Let's hope you don't get burgled. I don't agree with letting people in I don't know.

[@berniethekiwidragon4382]

​@DoktorLorenz Even the police need a warrant to enter your house uninvited.

[@RobCrowley85]

I showed him my TV doesn't get any channels at all and that's been that. Got taken off the system for a year or so.

[@RobCrowley85]

​@@berniethekiwidragon4382true

[@TheCelticlion]

I didn't have a TV. TV licence called, told them I didn't have a TV. They said OK. Then prosecuted me for not having a TV licence.

[@markgadsby5568]

Is anyone still paying the TV licence? I hope soon the answer will be ‘no’!

[@MikeEves]

Only mugs

[@causewaykayak]

This was interesting and useful. BB says that a customer might agree to 3rd party sharing of personal data. Improper use of that data is then against DPDR rules. OK but when I do my internet shopping i have to agree in to a complete package of T&Cs which often include data sharing. I am (in those instances) given no choice. I am wondering if that gets the online form off the hook and no longer obliged to protect my privacy? It's a murky business and this video does so well to throw light on it. ❤

[@causewaykayak]

@BlackBeltBarristerTV Bots active on your channel.

[@goldeneddie]

@@causewaykayak You just replied to a spam email comment!

[@BlackBeltBarrister]

@@causewaykayak thanks, looking for it

[@causewaykayak]

@@goldeneddie Yes I know. Thanks amyway. These are all over the place.

[@dannyjonze]

'this approach' is bullying

[@lizzietheoldbiddy262]

I have received the same letters and made subject access request under GDPR. I've also asked for my BBC iPlayer activity specifically. The activity log shows when I have scanned BBC iPlayer to judge whether the programmes on offer are worth paying the licence fee. This is the activity for which they are pursuing me. I have neither watched nor recorded any live TV, nor have I watched any BBC iPlayer content. But I have visited their home page. So, beware!

[@MyNameIsJefe-h6v]

BBC should be paying the British Citizens for allowing them to use the public airways.

[@hemlyns9916]

For goodness' sake - it's saGASSity, not Sayga City.

[@MartWilliams]

I wondered if anyone else spotted that. And given its meaning, you might think it would be a word a sage type like a barrister, would have in his vocabulary.