CAN SMASH PROS DO THE HARDEST FIGHTING GAME COMBOS? (feat. Marss, Little Z & more)

[@pokemonfanz100]

Mars in level 9 after skipping like 4: "no way esam is doing this" Esam in level 19 "oh forgot to super my bad"

[@Mas-cm6cy]

yea

[@jollama]

*Marss

[@Mykahaia]

He did correct himself acknowledging ESAM is bald though...

[@M4ngoMutiny]

Marss did the worst out of all of them, yet he was the only one to talk bs.

[@TheTomdog23]

Doesnt deserve that much respect :/

[@PSNMyfoot]

Marss managed to be the perfect scrub stereotype without even leaving training mode xD

[@stephaniecurry45]

lmao a scrub in smash too?

[@grahamsquires3363]

@@stephaniecurry45 nah he’s a hype player

[@aclonymous]

@@stephaniecurry45 Outside of the game, absolutely; he spends 90% of his waking hours complaining about easy characters. In game, he's actually really sick and gets incredible results with a character that isn't even top 20.

[@hwanniggles187]

@@aclonymous shut up. Im sick of people downplaying ZSS. Shes not Smash 4 level but shes honestly still an amazing and annoying character

[@aclonymous]

@@hwanniggles187 let me guess, there's a ZSS at your local that has a perfect record against your trash ass Ganon?

[@srthinkdarauf2064]

After this I can confirm Esam is a pro fighting player Wadi is a self improvement guy Marss is the troll Little z is Australian

[@kaarD04]

And Coney is Coney

[@furymonger5395]

Dang man’s forgot poor coney

[@cowboytv7903]

ESAM being the one who actually knows how to play fighting games is on character. Also wadi's excitement after hitting the combos is precious

[@samuelcunningham4526]

I was happy for Wadi, him getting some fun and enjoyment from this challenge is probably the best part of this video for me

[@caliscearleon9540]

With a keyboard no less i haven't done that since mugen

[@GuyrillaBraun]

@@caliscearleon9540 Just the thought of trying to use a keyboard to play a fighting game hurts my head. A lot of respect to him for that, and for being very positive and upbeat about this.

[@eVuLeX]

​@@GuyrillaBraun until you realize its the best controler do play fighting games on

[@philipearakaki]

@@eVuLeX Tekken on keyboards is borderline cheating

[@LittleZReal]

THEY ACTUALLY CUT ALL THE GOOD COMBOS I GOT This is FGC propaganda, show me hitting aerial kick to punch slap big hadouken I did that I swear

[@lol1013]

You got pranked on April 1st

[@gerhardhofer7505]

A likely story

[@LoLVilt]

No one believes you. 😅

[@basu2428]

That's what they all say

[@bfeldz1023]

Even without what probably got cut I think you did great for what was essentially a blind trial run of a game you have never played.

[@imESAM]

Another example of me being the GOAT of the Smashers

[@rycalamo2684]

Mad respect g, being the only one who didn't skip anything is a big W

[@bmoresgreatest05]

It was actually cool to see you starting picking up them combos. ESAM might be dangerous if he kept at it lol

[@TestSubject06]

Of course the lab monster goes into the lab and hits all of the combos. You've hit pretty much every twitter clip within an hour of seeing them!

[@ImRcrd]

Bald moment

[@fupalover]

Toast could do this

[@Sheilabun621]

I'd honestly love to see this extend outside of April Fools Day. Maybe have the FG players coach the Smash players and help them?

[@blyat8832]

sf4 isn't really a game good for coaching lol, it's more of a learn yourself and get some pointers here and there. big difference between smash and real fighting games is fighting games support learning by yourself more than needing you're hand held for every step

[@sketchditty1054]

@@blyat8832 well smash you can learn on your own though, the controls are just simple enough that you don't need to spend hours in training mode to learn combos and can be more free form. Most of the learning comes from actually playing others and learning from other people.

[@hypersnake7904]

Smash and street fighter can both be learned by themselves, but traditional fg skill Carries over between games, unlike smash. every game can hold your hand but it's if you choose to let that hand be held

[@WhensMahvel]

Please if yall do this, Put Marss and Punk together as player and coach

[@davidlevineiv2285]

WESTY LAGGY

[@mrgabes2215]

70% of their problem was not being able to read Capcom's shorthand, 20% was the execution barrier, 10% was mental weakness.

[@chillpill1649]

Mental weakness might have bit a bit more of a problem. Seeing them struggle was a bit vindicating but it hurt to see them actually shit on the game, inputs, and controllers😂😂

[@jlnvamp]

@@chillpill1649 ye the smash players stereotype is true they are ass at fighting games out side of smash

[@shoopoop21]

@@jlnvamp Leffen has been beating ass in guilty gear, iirc. Also smash players are still better than people who don't play any action games at all.

[@shoopoop21]

Yes, and it was extremely validating to watch. All the fighting games I want to learn, like +r, require a tab in fucking dustloop to do. Fighting games are bad, and not because they are not fun once you figure out what you are doing, but because devs are lazy shitty bastards that want to court -casuals- new players but not actually teach them anything. People say "learn them by yourself" and the reality could not be further from the truth. Fuck trying to learn fighting games by yourself, when the very notation in the game is so insufficient, people with actual fighting game ability can't fucking do shit until they figure out how to actually do the inputs through trial and error. This ought to be fucking embarrassing for Capcom. Its proof that they suck at their job, and that almost everyone on the UX design team should be fired. It was more than just the shorthand, they didn't understand that its links only, _except supers, gotta love weird, unexplained exceptions to the rules,_ because the game doesn't explain shit.

[@shoopoop21]

Literally everything in smash is links, sometimes as small as 1 or 2 frames, so its not like this is even new stuff to these people. Street Fighter just sub 50IQ when it comes to actually communicating how it works.

[@krisorszag9551]

Watching the one dude roast WaDi and WaDi struggling at first and then seeing that slowly transition into WaDi genuinely doing really well and enjoying himself while the dude who roasted him ended up doing pretty poorly and being super salty was truly a legendary saga. Bonus points to WaDi for managing all that on a keyboard. Also I loved WaDi's comment about Ryu having "short limbs" finally I feel like someone understands my pain as an fgc player!

[@cragl3yman343]

Yet Daigo still conquers the game with him.

[@KaiMCGRPS]

keyboard was probably easier than pad tbh

[@DharGez]

I play FGs on Keyboard, and at first it's "harder" but also WAAAY more consistent and precise, in the long run ends up feeling more rewarding

[@nevohyams]

I love that you know Wadi's name and not the other dude's, keep it that way lol I love him too but Wadi is my goat

[@fr0stdr4ke95]

That's the Marss special.

[@pinkjolyne5432]

Respect for ESAM actually doing all the trials, but watching Marss being a scrub was rough lol

[@starmantheta2028]

I'm assuming it was an act to play up the 'Smash players can't play real fighting games' joke, as it's honestly not that hard to figure out the inputs, but I agree it was kinda frustrating watching Marss complain even if it was a joke.

[@interceptingfist5682]

@@starmantheta2028 this comment makes no sense. Why would he play into 'smash players can't play real fighting games'? That does him a disservice. Face it he struggled with the easiest characters trials

[@starmantheta2028]

@@interceptingfist5682 Marss has a contrarian / inflammatory persona, as I understand it, and plays heel, which I get. Even then, it was just annoying to watch. Combo trials take a bit, but these aren't, like, KoF combo trials; you can grind it out in an hour or so if you just stick to it. Especially given the fact that the Smash has a ton of difficult execution to begin with, especially with ZSS, so there's more than enough dexterity and training ethic that carries over. Even if he found the combos hard, Marss knows that learning execution in a new game takes a bit but is doable, as he's done it before like any other top smash player. His attitude couldn't possibly be genuine.

[@TheDecoyPlatypus]

Marss has always been a scrub

[@DjGameKing]

ESAM proving that his baldness is the key to his skill after all. Truly, he's an inspiration to us all. Also, let's go WaDi!

[@truedardii]

BGC supremacy

[@UmbraVivens94]

just look at Mew2King, and Saitama

[@xDeadlyfuryG3x]

Leave it to ESAM to be the only guy that actually knows how Street Fighter works.

[@stephaniecurry45]

@Angelic should they enjoy learning a game they don't care about?

[@duck_t4039]

Half of them just started skipping ultra inputs because they didnt want to read the input sheet, or because they couldn't put the 3 kick symbol together with their 3 kick buttons.

[@bubblewaffle1558]

@@stephaniecurry45 yh

[@strikemist]

@@stephaniecurry45 the guy means learning in general. Not pertaining the learning to one single game specifically

[@philipearakaki]

@@stephaniecurry45 whatever fighting game you gonna play, learning the basics of SF is probably the most important and transferable skill, every fg is modeled after SF

[@johnread8749]

I’d kill to see more of this exact stuff. Seeing smash pros play fighting games is peak enjoyment

[@Neith3r]

Came here to say the same

[@earthsealitach]

Esam was doing his thing tho. I had high hopes for him since he can electric in ultimate consistently

[@solarsloan]

Esam made me happy, the others pained me to watch lmao.

[@mee091000]

"Did they patch it out?" 😂

[@MaskedGuyCh]

This was hard to watch for the most part. Especially that one dude who was hating on Street Fighter and calling FG players mashers. I don't want to see that dude ever again.

[@BobsonQDugnutt]

I’ve never wanted to yell at Marss so badly oh my lord. He has lost the right to call WaDi stupid

[@verfuncht]

@Taelin Cusic He calls himself and his fans "mashers", so it makes sense that he wouldn't be good at precise timings. He plays ZSS, who's mostly movement-based as opposed to having complicated inputs.

[@combobreaker1059]

@@verfuncht Errm no, watch again, he actually called the FGC a bunch of mashers ... not him and his Fans.

[@verfuncht]

@@combobreaker1059 He also calls his fans mashers, you Neanderthal

[@pedrogoncalves4585]

@@combobreaker1059 he calls himself and the others mashers in his videos not this one

[@admirrad3777]

@T-Army I don’t think that’s the issue as much as his mentality in this video being garbage

[@Lanman106]

Wadi did incredible for the fact that A. he only plays Smash, and B. he was on freaking keyboard! Mad props to Esam for completing them all! Esam best Panda confirmed.

[@ladyinwight]

keyboard actually makes most fighting games way easier compared to pad and even stick depending on the game

[@blastfire21]

Depending on the keyboard it could be way easier. Some of them would prevent you from imputing certain simultaneous key presses but other would be about as good as a hitbox

[@Lanman106]

@@ladyinwight It may make certain inputs easier, sure. I just can’t imagine using it because of the tendinitis it would induce on my hands and wrists. Also, it might be easier to get into fighting games if he used a controller he is familiar with already.

[@jdrmanmusiqking]

Dont listen to any of these dudes lol playing fighters in keyboards is asking to have a wrist replacement surgery by 35 Plus you dont get the fighting game feel from keyboards its really hard to explain

[@Lanman106]

@@jdrmanmusiqking That's what I was thinking. lol. I used to play Rivals of Aether on keyboard. Let me tell you, not a fun experience. I know that keyboard warriors exist, but I can't imagine how you manage wrist strain.

[@mlrobbins02]

I know it's a april fools joke but I want to see more of making them swap game categories

[@ThreeEyedPea]

Exactly. I really wanna see Kizzie, Hook, Kitana and Wong try to play Smash.

[@MeatOfJustice]

@@ThreeEyedPea Didn't JWong play Ice Climbers in Melee?

[@blyat8832]

@@ThreeEyedPea I am pretty sure they'd be able to do it no problem lol. Jwong played smash ultimate with Kazuya and basically outshined all the online Kazuya's while barely knowing about the game lmao

[@darrellgainer6966]

@@blyat8832 how that knowing anything when he’s played melee he obviously had an understanding of the game

[@blyat8832]

@@darrellgainer6966 true, but remember it's Justin Wong. the man is basically the god of adapting and learning, of course he'd know how to use a character in a simple minded game lol

[@gramdalfthewhite]

13:50 is My favorite 🤣 "I think I'm doing it, I think this... I think Ryus just got short limbs." Lmaooo

[@JP-pn2lv]

For the record, little z, you are right, crouching medium punch x2 into crouching heavy kick is not actually easy for how simple it ends up looking

[@blyat8832]

It becomes easy as soon as you learn what a one frame link is and master the technique. That's why they added that they're, to teach you the timing

[@FlyingShadow11]

it's the easiest shit in the world lol

[@The_KO_Gaming]

@@blyat8832 that combo isnt 1 frame links those are more like 3 frame. 1 frame would require a plink where you press HK than mk it will take that HK was press twice like it was press togather. So if you go to training it will look like Hk than next input Hk and Mk together how you know doing it right. For Mk or MP have to do with LK for MK. The only trickist ones to plink is the lights.

[@818Kira]

Plinking also helps with timing in this game

[@blyat8832]

@@The_KO_Gaming actually acting like plinking chances the type of link it is lmao. 3 frame links don't exist in sf4 lol

[@PolarOppositeFIlms]

The guy skipping the trials is a straight BUSTER

[@MrEddiegordo]

THAT PARTTTT.

[@siegmeyerofcaterina1228]

TRUE

[@MozeXI]

The only trials I've skipped are kage combos fuck that's shit

[@BigDaddyKnez]

@@MozeXINah Kage combos are easy, you just gotta learn to do instant air tatsus (do the tatsu input right before the jump input)

[@Anonymality]

Esam: goated Wadi: bein the best boi Coney: vibin tryin to do the ez ones Little Z: givin it his best shot Marss: salty tilt

[@2Eliishere]

Don't know who this Esam guy is but he seems to have a really positive attitude towards the learning process and that goes far in fighting. Also the WaDi guy is right, for how hard Crouching medium X2 into sweep is it feels really bad to do.

[@yeagmatic]

i think you should search his name on youtube lmao

[@FlyingShadow11]

feels really bad if u don't play street fighter.. that is one of the easiest and most satisfying combos to do

[@theinktician]

@@FlyingShadow11 if you don't play it religiously* - I had AE , but the timing was too weird, so i prefered KOF13---also how can it be the easiest AND most satisfying? Sounds kinda backwards

[@CMCAdvanced]

@@FlyingShadow11 you've been held hostage by challenge mode so much you've developed Stockholm syndrome. What a shame

[@FlyingShadow11]

@@CMCAdvanced excuse me? i would rek u in any fighting game eyes closed lmao

[@EliasVodka]

damn skipping the trials is so lame, esam tho what a champ

[@oomar4597]

its even more funny when you realise he is the beat player on the team in smash lol. skill doesnt carry over

[@sylvan-projectxorven-8210]

Looking at everyone attempting this, I immediately assumed Marss would struggle the most, and I don't think I'm particularly wrong.

[@personpersonson7958]

Little Z though...

[@jdrmanmusiqking]

@Person Personson Nah man when you account for the skill level difference between Z and Marss, Marss DEFINITELY struggled the most

[@Somocho]

@@personpersonson7958 at least he kept a good attitude and avoided tilt while Marss just went fully into it

[@benskx]

Seeing Mars fail and get super salty about it was great. That dude's ego has always been fun to laugh at.

[@admirrad3777]

I always think that’s his like joke that he is arrogant but I really felt like he was just a bad sport in this vid

[@naiiin6949]

@@admirrad3777 i think it is mostly just a joke, but when he's doing bad in like a quiz or sth like this the salt comes through lol

[@akallstar5]

@@admirrad3777people that “fake arrogance” for this long… just actually have real egos. The shtick is just a cover for his actual ego, he has one but he also realizes it turns people off (like an LTG), so he does his shtick, but accomplishes what his ego wants to accomplish anyway: no personal culpability for his shortcomings.

[@zanpakutoman4225]

I'm really glad Esam was here. It's funny to watch them struggle with reading what the 3-punch is and watching them skip combos, before even getting to the complicated stuff. But, I really appreciate the honest footage from Esam, who at least knew about the mechanics and systems.

[@deththekidd5062]

The fact they changed they buttons to still not understand what buttons they were pressing is pretty crazy

[@harryvpn1462]

12:08 damn was esam plinking here? He's actually goated

[@imESAM]

Yes LOL

[@loganmakesvideos8652]

@@imESAM sigma male spotted

[@cDoogle]

@@imESAM sigma male spotted

[@monkehotdogs2227]

@@imESAM Gigachad

[@gramdalfthewhite]

@@imESAM sigma male spotted

[@darebrained]

As someone who is bad at FGs (but enjoys them) I so understand the struggle and I'd love to see more of this.

[@kevinnguyen507]

I love you can tell exactly who the lab monsters are (Esam) and who aren’t (Mars) lol

[@stevilta5455]

They’re called lab rats

[@Sprocket_777]

@@stevilta5455 Especially when it comes to Esam, he plays the rat.

[@wahlawigi9572]

smash players reinforce stereotypes for 20 minutes

[@LuisGonzalez-nd2bq]

Esam on a whole new level of respect and same for Wadi doing better then the other three while using a keyboard

[@pamoon_]

Honestly after watching so many Panda vids related to Smash I’m glad WaDi had solid success

[@The_KO_Gaming]

Im more glad he had a good time with it rather rest shitting on it

[@ThreeEyedPea]

I'd like to see how they'd do with a game where you can actually buffer normals into each other like BlazBlue or something

[@blyat8832]

well you can buffer super into moves if that counts, but yeah I'd love to see them try more trials like BlazBlue or even king of fighters

[@ThreeEyedPea]

@@blyat8832 You really think they're going to fare any better at KOF Trials?

[@blyat8832]

@@ThreeEyedPea nope, not at all

[@GGreenLink]

I was thinking sfv trials. Much easier due to input buffee

[@Skallva]

What I was thinking. I can imagine they'd have more fun gatling in BB with Ragna or Jin than than trying to figure out the precise timings for each link. Having a very generous input buffer and way better instructions and teaching tools than in SFIV would also be great for them.

[@subterraneanretrogames556]

I remember people told me that Smash players would crush these trials. Yeah….they’re really killin’ it lol.

[@sandau44]

@Seamus O'Gil Cool mentality

[@CMCAdvanced]

3 buttons? AT THE SAME TIME? Oh, fun stuff indeed

[@illgeteverythingback]

@@CMCAdvanced theres literally a button thats a macro for it lol

[@wophful]

@Seamus O'Gil to be fair, fighting game players tend to be bad at smash too

[@tyrenace6597]

@@wophful Tell that to the Kazuya’s y’all starting to hate so much.

[@redwolf0188]

I LOVE Marss, but here he was the perfect example of a scrub lord.

[@admirrad3777]

Lmao I get the feeling FGC players use the word scrub the same way smash players use mashers after seeing 3 comments like this

[@SoysauceML]

@@admirrad3777 Nope, Scrub is the mentality of people refusing to admit their own shortcomings and seek self improvement, instead blaming it in every other external factor possible (the opponent is using a cheat character, the button isn't working, the game sucks, the connection was bad, etc.)

[@SykNomad241]

​@@SoysauceMLPretty much LTG

[@simons9264]

Why’d I KNOW esam was a damn Abel player Have em play marvel 3 trials next year

[@blyat8832]

next year? they gon learn today! or whenever it is most convenient lol

[@CMCAdvanced]

Oh man, we might see an on-screen stroke or aneurysm

[@billsmith30]

They would need to be custom community bread and butter combos. I wanna see somebody try to do Bold cancels with Dante, or Doom footdive combos

[@blyat8832]

@@billsmith30 nah, I think they'd struggle enough at the main trials alone lol. It would be pretty unfair to start them at the highest of god tier combos instead of giving them a starting pad

[@Xzfinity]

You know since this exists, could we have a role reversal where smash players teach other fgc players to play their game and vice versa, then do a mini tournament or something?

[@CeJAZZ]

Perfectly balanced, as all things should.

[@justmeinabox4705]

This would actually be an awesome idea pair up smash players and fighting game players so they teach each other their respective game and do both brackets with coaching between sets. That would be fun as hell to watch

[@blackmanta2527]

When I started playing sf4 I was confused with the 3 punches and kicks .This is relatable

[@blyat8832]

True. Ngl back in the days I always got the super and ultra mixed up. Oh to be naive again

[@hardkore360]

sf2 had 3 punch and 3 kick buttons, back in the 90s lol 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@blyat8832]

@@hardkore360 lol okay boomer 😐😐😐

[@hardkore360]

@@blyat8832 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤡🤡🤡🤡 I'm actually a millennial, a much more informed millenial to know that sf had 3 punch and kick buttons since sf2

[@blyat8832]

@@hardkore360 apparently not, if you can't even mention that it went into an 8 button format from 3s to now lmfao 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

[@Inabaedits]

This video is a perfect example of how it feels to be new to fighting games. I can relate to this on a spiritual level, I was rooting for esam the whole through and was hype to see him complete it, as someone starting out, i know how daunting it is to just look at the combos and figure out how its even possible, or how hard it is to even get my fingers to even move a certain was for a simple 1, 1, 2 crouch 3 combo once.

[@panhead234]

WaDi kinda started to nail it there. Would love to see him give SF a real shot

[@Eggroll3s]

I'm so glad it's finally here lmao. Everyone was asking for this for a while, and I'm glad it actually came out

[@gabrielsalazar5177]

Loved the keyboard guy! He a champ, glad he passed his own limits

[@VenerabIe]

Smash and SF player here. This is hard to watch but excruciating to listen to. I love it.

[@babayaga8295]

bruh this just makes all the stereotypes about smash players even more funny

[@rivalmjd8541]

Marss: “ESAM probably doesn’t know how to do any of this” ESAM: *The only one who actually knows what he’s doing*

[@conrspowrt6691]

I appreciate that coney at least knew he had to do all three buttons even if he was confusrd

[@ThatOneGuyBen]

WaDi doing as well as he did on Keyboard is impressive. Keyboard is HARD, that's a LOT of inputs compared to controller or stick. On keyboard AND completely blind? That was really impressive. Also GS to ESAM for actually completing all 24. People forget ESAM has won a FG tournament before. Now granted it was Divekick, but still!

[@daddysaso]

Keyboard isn’t as hard as people give it credit for lol. More keys doesn’t matter anyway because you’re only using a portion of them. It’s all a matter of preference and being accustomed to something.

[@IcyTorment]

Keyboard is actually the easiest of the controllers they used. It's not as ergonomic as a leverless fighting game controller, but it's the next best thing.

[@omni5244]

Wadi, your not stupid, your just developing. You'll get there champ.

[@milesmungo]

“Combos should have checkpoints” 😂😂😂 I don’t think I’ll ever forget that.

[@carlos41519]

This was actually very entertaining. I wanted to see a vid like this for so long. Wadi was so fun to watch Also what if smash players made their own combo trials for their games/characters and fgc fellas played them?

[@olympian543]

This is an amazing idea. I feel like smash combos can be pretty difficult but due to the nature of the game there are no set in stone combos, so having the smash guys make them is a really good idea. Wong would definitely have to do ESAM's combos, I think he's the only one who could do Pika's harder combos.

[@carlos41519]

@@olympian543 i agree with you all the way through. Most “combos” in the game are stringed and mind games play a huge role. There are some crazy combos though that they could definitely try. Im primarily thinking of drag downs into kill confirms or the classic luigi 0-death (havent played the game in a while so idk if it was patched out) when it comes to hard combos. I know a few of them have played but they didnt really get deep into it so it would be fresh like this video.

[@grotn_]

@@carlos41519 Luigi still has his zero to death

[@Nicholas86753]

The fact that Wadi got as far as he did on a KEYBOARD! Is the most impressive thing in this is video.

[@Vuden13]

Impressive? Keyboards are like the best for fighting games

[@CANWEGETMUCHHIGHERRRR]

@@Vuden13 ???? Stick and pad are the best

[@Vuden13]

@@CANWEGETMUCHHIGHERRRR nope sticks aren’t best, the hitbox and keyboard are undoubtedly more precise

[@loopygordo]

@@CANWEGETMUCHHIGHERRRR whatever you're most comfortable with is the best. Every controller has its pros and cons. I play dmf duel on pad but since day I've played strive on keyboard, just depends on what you like more.

[@V2ULTRAKill]

@@loopygordo no keyboard and hitbox do have objective advantages over stick and pad Its not a large advantage but it was large enough to spark a discussion of whether it should be banned in tekken7 where the advantage is most pronounced because of kbd

[@OnlyTheAzure]

Love that Mars who bragged the most about being good skipped the most of them.

[@michel0dy]

Yo SF4 trials are pretty tough, props for Esam for actually nailing all of them. Super fun vid

[@SergeySvotin]

Ryu's trials are the easiest in game, let him try Honda or guile xd

[@hdaervmaonn]

@@SergeySvotin t hawk's are definitely the easiest

[@blueicydasani4543]

If you want hard combos, try Gen, Viper, Makoto, or Juri

[@problem9222]

I would love to see like Justin and Wadi just like trying to collaborate on how to do combos in this game

[@problem9222]

Aka pro FGC mentoring amateurs

[@deadpool3982]

Ooh they could do an original NXT kinda thing

[@damorpheus8615]

i have never been more proud as an fgc kid than to see wadi do way better than i thought he would, and esam just kill it. yall are kings.

[@theladypalecorn7750]

As an FGC person who also plays/loves Smash and all the Panda Smash people, this hurt me in my soul

[@SageRuffin]

I like how the one dude said all fighting game players are just mashers. Like, dude. Your combos weren't working *because your timing was jank.* No amount of mashing would've helped you there.

[@WavyJayZ]

Typical clueless smasher

[@carldalord]

I know you don’t watch any of these people, but if it wasn’t obvious already, he was joking

[@SageRuffin]

@@carldalord Please forgive my incoming skepticism, but considering what I've personally heard from some Smash players, I find that a little hard to believe.

[@carldalord]

@@SageRuffin what have ya heard from smash players. I never really see smash players on their high horse about how their fighting game is better. I usually just see sf players insult smash

[@SageRuffin]

@@carldalord I wish I knew those people. In my experience (at least online), the common sentiment is "I play Smash because I don't need to study an encyclopedia in order to play." Like... who are these people _demanding_ that you _need_ to know how to do XYZ concept or tactic (I mean, there was that one stupid-ass comment from SkiSonic at a UMvC3 tourney, but that's the only thing I remember off-hand)? Sajam actually has a video about this - there's no bouncer in the game saying "Oh, you can't do this Shoryuken -> FADC -> Ultra I? Then fuck off." If you want to play the game, _just play the game._ It's then up to you, the player, to decide if you want to dig deeper or not. If you don't, that's fine and dandy, but don't get mad when/if you come across someone who _did_ dig deeper and then uses your head as a toilet brush. This goes for all fighters, including Smash.

[@DJackson747]

Been playing SF2 since the beginning and I realize how we take those input notations for granted. They're doing way more than needed for the ultras because it's not clear that its all 3 strengths of punches/kicks at the same time rather than pressing them individually for example

[@tyler_keeble]

13:08 - literally me every time I try to play a fighting game

[@trapOrdoom]

Lmfao ol boy skipped the shit and called it corny 😂. LTG vibes, beautiful!

[@tyrant_lord_valvatorez9018]

Congrats to esam for completing it, and to wadi for doing as well as he did on keyboard, im disappointed in the others for quitting.

[@zechonMod]

This was me when I tried SFIV. I was mainly a Tekken player so seeing the inputs at first felt weird since there were no arrows.

[@hamzahax]

Same for me

[@kenjinuma]

Lol opposite for me, SF4 was life and seeing a the wavedash input was the only thing that gave me comfort.

[@jojomarshall6465]

Well it might be easier if you played a charge character like guile or balrog where most of if not all of their moves are arrows

[@PSNMyfoot]

“I can play fighting games, I’m decent… I just can’t remember inputs” This barely started and is already internet gold.

[@Machina03exe]

Being a person who grew up playing fighting games prior to the release of the first Smash on the 64, it's hilarious and endearing watching someone learn how to read a completely foreign hieroglyph system.

[@NpalrGamesNsuch]

"Am I stupid?" As someone who had struggled for a long time but then got it real quick, watching this is very painful. You are not stupid, but for the love of god, do not give up so easily.

[@rosaL8008]

As someone who was in the smash community for years before converting to actual fighting games, this is really funny to watch and god does it remind me of my first days playing sf4

[@billsmith30]

SF4 actually does have shortcuts lol. They are really lenient with what counts. If you do double down forward, it counts as a shoryuken input. First one registers as forward, second one registers as the down and down forward. Punch after gives a shoryuken. There's lots of other weird examples as well but I don't want type that much

[@TehDompie]

I bought this game after Ryu was announced for Smash at E3 2015 and now I coach fighting games for a living lol I will always love this game for getting me into my favorite genre

[@Juan_rivera]

That smile Ryu is the thing nightmares are made of

[@MrSaturnMusic]

Wadi had a whole ass arc 🤣 went from "wtf is ⤴️??" To pulling off combos ON KEYBOARD 👀 Color me impressed 👍

[@MaoriGamerDood]

22:11 - 22:31 These two where by far my favorites to watch. Especially WADIROB. These two where having a lot of fun.

[@ElectroDojo]

I can't believe how much I enjoyed this! I want More. Make them do KOF Trials or even better make them do some arcade modes on max difficulty

[@carlosaugusto9821]

KoF 13 trials, and arcade mode of only KoF 94, 95 or 96. Or beating ST Akuma in the ST US version at max difficulty. Or beating God Rugal at max difficulty.

[@sanyashaihov2721]

Man, no, it's sadistic, if SF4 was too much for them, KOF13 Will Just break their spirit.

[@ElectroDojo]

@@sanyashaihov2721 13 is too much but KOF XV Trials are very easy that could be a good starting point

[@Slushy916]

"Possibly a skill issue" Truer words have never been spoken and I'm talking from experience lmao

[@dominodropkix9708]

This is pretty good content. Really enjoyed Wadi’s and Esam’s perspective here. Also props for Little Z for using a mayflash.

[@vRaeZe]

When I'm not doing good in any fg, this is my comfort video

[@silverbullet1819]

I was cheering for wadi the whole time, it was like a anime training arc

[@blyat8832]

this isn't Oni, but it sure is definitely something entertaining lol. I only cringed half of the vid, basically when Mars' tried to act like he knew what he was doing lmao

[@imESAM]

DO NOT MAKE ME DO THOSE COMBOD PANDA PLEASE

[@blyat8832]

@@imESAM lol, you checked them out? Don't worry, even I know they are hard af too. You gotta be built different to know how to do light shoryu twice into air demon and do it consistently

[@punchyyamz3430]

@@blyat8832 Make the Smashers play Balrog or Guile, that should be amusing xD

[@blyat8832]

@@punchyyamz3430 true lol, but I personally think them playing Dudley or Decrapre would be very funny to see

[@punchyyamz3430]

​@@blyat8832 Fair point, it ends up coming out to the same thing with Decapre though, the charge motions would give Marss some PTSD

[@The_KO_Gaming]

Marrs and little Z some of the most scub quotes i have ever heard. Shout out to wadi having a good time. Esam bodying every trailing making cony eat shit for his comment about not getting far lmao

[@jojomarshall6465]

Marss exactly what I expected when I read the title props to the others for being much less obnoxious

[@pottedplant37_]

It's like watching toddlers run hurdles, just seeing them fall over them but still being determined enough to keep running

[@HbCyclops]

Smash players confirming that they suck in real fighting games is golden content

[@nikkobird590]

Man chill bro let me find a fg i can get good at😔

[@DaRkLoRd-rc5yu]

Wadi becoming a solid hitbox player starting out on keyboard.

[@Shirojyuu]

I've been wanting to see more of Smashers playing traditional fighting games really badly, so more of these videos would be awesome.

[@BlazedKiller308]

seeing mars malding was actually hilarious, him giving up so easily is so funny

[@KokujinHibiki19]

I knew ESAM can do it, when he said he played Marvel 3 and I knew he would slap this easy. Good stuff ESAM! Also to the rest of them they put in the best effort.

[@unintentionally_edgy5867]

i feel bad for laughing at these guys being bad, but its very nice to see some of them willing to admit they are doing something wrong and trying to fix it.

[@studi0651]

Would love to see FGC pros try out classic mode in Smash next time

[@AtlasNYC_]

Watching this made ne squirm but shoutouts to these dudes for trying! I'd probably look exactly like them if I tried combos in smash lmao

[@dogAB]

now i kinda want to see the FGC players try Smash combos in the training room lmao im tryna see them do joker chain grab, an Ice Climbers de-sync, Rob 0-death, Peach turnip combo, or even some simple ones like ZSS nair-> flipkick or a falco combo i wonder if their experience would carry over to the more positional based combos of smash, id love to see that tbh

[@jdrmanmusiqking]

All of those are easy compared to UMvC3 Zero Buster Changing. That was harder than his Lightning Loops but ya gotta do BOTH at the same time for optimal combos To explain, ya gotta charge Zero's buster by holding down a L,M, or H (usually L) but you'll often need the button youre holding for combos, specials and neutral so ya gotta switch which button youre holding midcombo and remember to keep it held or the buster will fire thus ruining your combo Smash players have no idea what kind of executional insanity exists in fighting games

[@dogAB]

@@jdrmanmusiqking not saying they’re harder at all, just that they’re completely different in style… so im curious as to how the skills would transfer over from a baseline execution standpoint, smash is easier for sure bahaha

[@jdrmanmusiqking]

@@dogAB but thats what im saying. They really arent much different execution is execution. The skills translate For even a mid-level player like myself so I am positive top, elite, and god tier FG players have all the skills required to do smash combos

[@dogAB]

@@jdrmanmusiqking that’s why i tried listing some that were drastically different than traditional fighting game combos that said, id imagine they’d (for the most part) be able to do them without too much difficulty ig a better challenge would be playing ssbu against pro ssbu players bahaha, the commentary would be interesting

[@Maxler5795]

"you should see the tekken movelist" i laughed too hard.

[@lyonrieve1]

Being the classic smash only fighting game player that I am, it's somehow nice to know that even the best players of the game I suck at suck at other games, pretty comically. I'm sure they're doing a million times better than I would, but it's still comforting to see them as human lol

[@internetmovieguy]

This is hilarious! I remember my first time playing sf4. Going to sf4 with only smash as a competitive title. It probably looked just like these guys.

[@Thestarmanx]

This video shows that esam can play fighting games lmao glad they all gave it a shot knowing they either haven't/rarely playing traditional FGs

[@NoahStills]

Watching marss give up on ultras was so satisfying

[@jmc2830]

recently picked up smash for the first time since playing melee on a game cube with brothers about 15 years ago, been off and on with normal fighting games all that time. it's interesting how different they are.. it's like spending all your time getting used to mac then getting a rude awakening when you realize your new kit is a pc and you have no idea how it works.. can't think of better a analogy.. smash combo's are as alien as it could possibly be to a tekken, mk, sf gamer. but i imagine it would be a two way street, well i don't have to imagine these guys are doing a great job demonstrating.

[@juliusdv6657]

"There's people that play this character, I would be tilted, this character is a clown...." SFV Dan would like a word with you lol.

[@rasifurefodi8306]

Should have made them do Kof 13 trials instead

[@Sirloin97]

This🤣

[@blyat8832]

oh no. they would not go through the first 3 trials lol

[@hamzahax]

We dont speak of that game

[@blyat8832]

@@hamzahax why? The game is one of the best fighting games ever made, by both a gameplay and visual stand point lol

[@Sirloin97]

@@blyat8832 it’s a meme on this channel

[@nivrap_]

It'd be cool to see the fighting game players get together with the smash players and teach them some stuff.

[@KevinGarnett21121]

I’m officially a fan of the bald guy now

[@maverickmic]

Search youtube for "the bald guy" he's pretty cool

[@muleyamwiinga3988]

What am I doing wrong? Everyone in the FGC: everything sir

[@Lanman106]

10:00 I love seeing how excited Wadi was to hit this link!