Can't play DCS? Play this game instead!

[@madaxe606]

I played DCS with a mouse and a keyboard for the first month or so, on a 5 y/o system with a GTX 1070, an HDD and 16gb RAM. Multiplayer was a no-go, but single player worked just fine.

[@thejetfighter]

I installed it on my PC. I could run the menus and everything fine, but when it came to actual flying It was petroleum style lag. :-(

[@madaxe606]

@@thejetfighter What are your specs?

[@thejetfighter]

@@madaxe606 My dinosaur (AKA my PC): Brand/Model: HP Compaq Elite 8300 SFF CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 CPU at 3.20GHz RAM: 16GB HDD: 500GB SSD OS: Windows 11 Pro Video: NVidia GeForce GT 710 Monitor: LG 20" LCD Monitor 5 ms 1600 x 900 D-Sub, DVI-D W2040T-PN

[@madaxe606]

@@thejetfighter Honestly my system's not that much newer than yours. Intel i5 and a GTX 1070 are stock from when I bought it. I started on an HDD and it was playable, albeit with pretty long load times. I upgraded from the HDD to a 2TB SSD and that made a HUGE difference. 16gb RAM was plenty for SP, and I could play MP on a map like Caucasus with 30-40fps no problem. I increased from 16gb RAM to 32 to be able to run MP on the Syria map, and I can get 50-60fps, even with a mix of high & ultra settings. I can get 80-90fps on SP so long as I don't go hog-wild with AI assets. With just a modest GPU upgrade you should be okay, I would think.

[@thejetfighter]

@@madaxe606 I think is the GPU, I'll look for an upgrade. The GTX 1070 sounds good.

[@combataceguy]

If you can't play DCS, play Strike fighters 2 instead

[@Duchovicius]

True

[@combataceguy]

@@Duchovicius Strike fighters 2 was my childhood DCS

[@AdhmKassap]

strike fighter is not online, and its lite simulator, the radar and how missile works and the sounds of it are bad, i played a lot of sf2 but when i found Lock on fc2 i saw i was playing a kids game xD

[@TotRuAv]

Wow! You can fly mig21. Also what else can you fly in fc2

[@thejetfighter]

You have to install the 1-MOD. It is available at the official MOD maker of the game who also is the same people that manages the last FC2 online server. vk.com/topic-36610072_41156928 Even though the page is in Russian, the MOD is mostly in English and the people behind it can understand English if you have any questions.

[@TotRuAv]

@@thejetfighter nice. What else is flyable?

[@thejetfighter]

According to the official MOD's team, these are the flyable planes: Su-15, 17, 24M, 24MR, 25, 25T, 27, 30, 33, 34, 35C, 37, 39, 47 Mig-21, 23, 25PD, 25RBT, 27, 29K, 29C, 29SMT, 31, 35 L-39, IL-76, IL-78, A-50, Yak-40, An-26, An-30 Tu-22M3, Tu-95MS, Tu-142, Tu-160 F-4E, F-5E, F-14, F-15C, F-15E, F-16C, F-18A, F-18C, A-10A Alpha Jet, Mirage-2000, Eurofighter, Tornado, Harrier, RQ-1A Boeing 707, KC-10A, KC-135R, C-17, E-3A, E-2C, B-52, B-1B, C-130, S-3B J-7, J-8F, J-10

[@TotRuAv]

@@thejetfighter wait. You can even fly il 76 and b52?

[@thejetfighter]

Yes, they're in the list. But I haven't flown them myself yet.

[@ImpendingJoker]

Actually the "father" of DCS is Lock-on Modern Aircombat or LOMAC.

[@utley]

thats...what the video says. Technically speaking, Flanker 2.0 is the father of LOMAC/DCS. All LockOn Flaming Cliffs 1/2 are were just paid addons.

[@thejetfighter]

...and Su-27 Flanker for MSDOS would be the grandma :-D

[@utley]

@@thejetfighter theres really nothing in DCS from that game. Half of the models in Flanker 2.0 still reside and are in use in DCS World, including Crimea. If you track the coastline all the way up, you could map the entirety of Crimea and compare it with Flanker 2.0. You will see the exact same map - lines, polygons...all the same in both. Even the models like the Tu-95 and Su-17 Fitter are still in game. Hell, half of the buildings and villiages too.

[@spacekraken666]

I had this a very long time ago but i lost the CD sadly.

[@thejetfighter]

There are way to find the game. I think it is abandonware now. Thanks for watching :-D

[@H3nry2077]

FALCON 4 BMS is also an option.

[@thejetfighter]

Actually, it is installed on my PC and it runs ok, not great but at least ok. But that is a REAL simulator. The learning curve will take its time. Falcon BMS it's the real option to DCS if you like hard core simulations. Thanks for watching :-D

[@H3nry2077]

@@thejetfighter fair enough, it was a great video either way!

[@aminaliouche2802]

So I got a question i have a pirated version of flaming cliffs 1 sooo if I download flaming cliffs 2 from their site will it ask for a key or something

[@thejetfighter]

Yes, but that's what the Keygen is for.

[@aminaliouche2802]

@@thejetfighter do u have any link or any video

[@JAnx01]

If you don't mind WW2, the best of the old games is probably *Combat Flight Simulator 3* with mods. You can find videos of it on KZbin. It looks incredible!

[@thejetfighter]

I used to play CFS3 back in the day, I think I have to revisit it, is a really good game as far as I remember. :-D

[@RogerNorse]

I'd love to fly the Tomcat on DCS but i can't run it. Is there any other sim with Tomcats similar to DCS? (other than SF2 which i already play). I'm planning to buy a stick and throttle, but i'm afraid i won't be able to play Over G Fighters (xbox 360 game i play on xenia emulator on pc) because i think it won't work with stick and throttle.

[@thejetfighter]

There are MODs to make the F-14 playable in Flaming Cliffs 2. Also IL-2 Sturmovik 1946 has a MOD called B.A.T. that makes the F-14 playable. And for the XBox game on PC there's the original Thrustmaster T-Flight Hotas One (XBOX Series X/S & XOne and PC) on Amazon amzn.to/3tw0Yfh Off course that would make the need of making an investment on that Hotas (around 70$).

[@RogerNorse]

@@thejetfighter thank you so so much! Do you think Over G will work, even if it's an Xbox 360 game emulated on PC? Maybe the stick may work, but i'm not sure about pedals and especially throttle. In game rudders and pitch/roll were based on axis, so they may work with stick and pedals, but throttle was based on LB and RB buttons, so it may not work with another axis (throttle)

[@therexbellator]

Does Lock On have a career or campaign mode? or is it just scripted missions? I'm from Space Game Junkie's channel, I checked out your channel when you popped into his stream. Like SGJ I am an old school flight sim enthusiast from the 90s, but not a fan of the "hardcore" direction so many sims went in the years after Falcon 3.0. I'd just like something accessible without needing a course in avionics lmao

[@thejetfighter]

LockOn comes with several campaigns by default and also stand alone missions and some multiplayer ones. If you want a more modern flight sim I can suggest you try Wings Over Europe from the Strike Fighter series, it's pretty cheap on Steam. Based on my experience, it has the right balance between arcade and hard core simulation. www.thejetfighter.com/2024/04/how-to-install-wings-over-europe-on.html

[@therexbellator]

@@thejetfighter Nice! Turns out I already own Wings over Europe. I'll have to make time to install and update it to run on Win10. Thanks TJF!

[@thejetfighter]

@@therexbellator Good to know, hope you can get to play it 😀

[@Duchovicius]

I used to play Flanker 2.0 a lot. Lock On Modern Air Combat was great as well.

[@thejetfighter]

I'm trying to get Flanker running on Windows 10/11 but I'm having some issues. I'm curious about that game.

[@Duchovicius]

@@thejetfighter it was a very good game

[@prototype001_yt]

@@thejetfighter Or falcon 4.0 with the bms mod. Also a great game

[@thejetfighter]

I have Falcon BMS but the learning curve is really long.

[@prototype001_yt]

@@thejetfighter unfortunately it is.

[@spinningsquare1325]

This game is great fun. Barely any issues. Loved to play it online this year. Its a pity the multiplayer scenarios are usually terrible

[@thejetfighter]

I runs flawlessly in today's PCs. The multiplayer is were this game shines. There's still one server on-line, I play there from time to time. :-D

[@spinningsquare1325]

@@thejetfighter I know the server. I think it runs bad, boring missions

[@thejetfighter]

Better that than nothing, maybe the mission editor does not offer that many options (I haven't tried it yet).

[@spinningsquare1325]

@@thejetfighter No, its just that admins have no taste

[@thejetfighter]

@@spinningsquare1325 🤣

[@lemangkuk]

I still have lock on cd in my collection. oh man the memories.

[@thejetfighter]

That CD is a treasure now :-D

[@maxjosephwheeler]

*NEVER, only the best for ME!*

[@thejetfighter]

One day I'll play this game. I'll be very happy then :-D

[@musicmystro]

would love to play this but can't get past the star force protection :(

[@thejetfighter]

You need to do this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oXWagqFsa7OYh6c

[@musicmystro]

@@thejetfighter unfortunately the link in that video doesn't work anymore. Is there anyway you could upload the key gen if you have it please?

[@thejetfighter]

@@musicmystro This one works: kzbin.info/www/bejne/b5rEY6qAmZmSias

[@musicmystro]

@@thejetfighter Thats awesome thanks!

[@thejetfighter]

😀

[@RSSpotter]

Can you please tell me how did you add that map or desert

[@thejetfighter]

It's part of the 1-MOD for FC2. Right now it's on version 5. You can see how to get it and install it here: www.thejetfighter.com/2025/01/how-to-install-1-mod-v5-of-lockon.html

[@RSSpotter]

@ do you know how much gb take 1-mod v4?

[@thejetfighter]

@@RSSpotter Once installed, about 5GB.

[@RSSpotter]

@@thejetfighter Thanks.And sorry for asking too much but does crimea come and birtual cockpits for 3-rd gen fighters in v4.

[@thejetfighter]

@@RSSpotter The Original Caucasus map is still there. Some cockpits aren't done since maybe they are not easy to do or the people behind the mod are still working on it.

[@Hyhich]

Hello. I understand you, because I have the same problem in DCS. I have only 20 fps in single 720p, and I can't go into multiplayer at all. My video card burned out, although it gave only 25 fps online, and 40 fps in single. Now I'm sitting on integrated graphics, and I don't have the opportunity to buy a new video card at the moment. We have a war (I'm from Ukraine)😪

[@thejetfighter]

Wow, sad to hear that. Someday we'll fly there as friends and free people.

[@samthegamer4910]

HOW MANY PLANES IT HAS?

[@thejetfighter]

A LOT X-D

[@KhanhLam777]

There's a server still online in this game and it's Russian.

[@thejetfighter]

Yep, the last one standing. Holding strong so far :-)

[@KhanhLam777]

@@thejetfighter The 193 server just died in a mystery way, i had fun with it and the new 195 server but now i've switched to DCS, missed those times lol.

[@thejetfighter]

​@@KhanhLam777 I will play DCS as soon as I can get my hands on a capable PC but Flaming Cliffs still has its "magic". 🙂

[@KhanhLam777]

@@thejetfighter Well you're gonna need a 500GB of SSD (or 256gb if you're playing on low graphics, no other maps) and a GPU upgrade then you're good. My i3-6100 and RX560 4GB can still fly in a medium settings in singleplayer, adjust lower settings a bit then it'll run fine in some multiplayer map.

[@thejetfighter]

@@KhanhLam777 I have an i5-3470 and 2TB SSD. My GPU is a NVidia GForce GT710. I think is the GPU, I'll look for an upgrade.

[@muhammadsaleh7229]

Is that the desert mod .? Good with the mods though

[@thejetfighter]

Yes, the desert MOD :-D

[@predattak]

invalid invite on discord ... :/

[@thejetfighter]

Corrected! Thanks for letting me know :-D discord.com/invite/tMRFYW5UdX

[@tristanmole5885]

How much does lock on cost, can you give me the link

[@thejetfighter]

LockOn is available to download 1t Archive dot org: archive.org/details/LockOnAirCombatSimulationEuropeRerelease Flaming Cliffs 2 and the patch are available at the official site: www.lockon.ru/en/downloads/software/ They're both free.

[@tristanmole5885]

@@thejetfighter How would I download lockon, I dont know which file to open

[@charlesc7723]

I’m sure there are simulations you could download to your phone too, that are cheap and easy. Since everyone, even a bum, has a cell phone. Maybe someone could use the advice.

[@thejetfighter]

Actually, I've tried flight sims on my phone, and many of them are really good. But I'm messy with the touch screen controls, I would need to train myself for this way of play. I guess I'm old school :-D

[@muhammadsaleh7229]

Lmaoo my dinosaur can't even easily this game.! 😢

[@thejetfighter]

That must be more dinosaur than my dinosaur :-D

[@muhammadsaleh7229]

I agree with you but Lock on FC2 lacks many features including lacking a considerable single player support plus less games, I would suggest going for Strike fighters instead

[@thejetfighter]

Definitely Strike Fighters offers a lot more of solo missions. But LockOn online games are awesome, if you find someone to play with.

[@muhammadsaleh7229]

@@thejetfighterindeed

[@ASHOT3359]

Just play War Thunder at this point? It can easily be ran on a shitiest of computers. And if you hate multiplayer you can just play singleplayer missions, a leftover from the time War Thunder was called "Wings Of Prey". If even that isn't an option i would concentrate on surviving my dude. Drop the games.

[@thejetfighter]

I'm always focused on surviving :-D I just installed War Thunder and it does run on my PC after some graphic configs done. But the Pay to Win model doesn't appeal to me. I'm going to give a try anyway thou.