Can the Ford F250 Beat the Ram HD HEMI up the Ike Gauntlet? (Part 2)

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[@stevengrey1948]

That settles it. I have no reason to get a diesel. The Gas 6.2 is really capable and for the amount of towing it does just fine.

[@leokathysigrist5874]

I just recently bought a used 2017 F25 with the 6.2 liter and I am very impressed by it.

[@justinwright7500]

Bought my 2022 Ford 6.2l 3.73 based on this video. Thanks Andre, Mr Truck and the TFL crew. Love the videos, but more importantly I love my truck!

[@sergeantschlumpf6368]

finally regular cabs!!

[@17320508don]

The 6.2 is actually a pretty good engine!

[@vburke1]

2016 F-250 XLT 6.2 here, 18K miles, long distance, towing, snow plowing, not the slightest peep of trouble. Even with the best QC in the world, any product can have a certain minuscule percentage of infancy failure. The 6.2 is a damn good engine.

[@09turbodiesel]

Thanks foe showing what a gas engine can do. Most only show the diesel engines.

[@xXBurntBaconXx]

Wow the F250 had the best time going up the hill. The Ram 2500 with the 6.4L was like 11 minutes, average speed of 40mph (on a 60mph road). The Silverado 2500 6.0L was 10 minutes or so, Average speed of 45 mph. For the F250 to to 8:53 is pretty impressive. Average speed of 54mph.

[@R.E.L.Asphalt_Sealcoating]

xXBurntBaconXx had 1000 lbs less weight too

[@gregc9220]

I been a diesel truck guy my whole life, I still have my 2002 F250 7.3 with over 275k miles and still running like she did from day one, purchased a 2012 Ecoboost F150...love the engine towing but it couldn't handle the weight I occasionally tow so I traded it in on. 2015 F250 6.7, absolute beast! But hate the high cost of maintenance and all the emissions crap....I bet I watched this video a 100 times for over a year talking myself in trading the 2015 6.7 for a 2019 F250 6.2....well I did in October and absolutely love it!!! It tows everything I put behind it and tows it well! Thanks guys for the great video! Now I want to see the 2020 F250 7.3 10 speed make the pull and see what it has.

[@monroedoctrine3296]

thanks for the advice Greg!

[@mrgreen955]

Lol a eco boost

[@MFPWM2010]

Ram better fix their stupid RPM governor on the 6.4 or they will be losing a lot of sales to this truck.

[@markallen755]

Ram truck is for granny, don't want to go too fast up hill!

[@callofdutyguy9]

Good looking truck. Can you guys try an F150 XL regular cab in the future too. I love the look of long bed regular cabs. I like to imagine them carrying important payloads to and from job sites.

[@damiangrouse4564]

Am I wrong? Even a base model "super duty" should include a tow package STANDARD.

[@zacharymartin4861]

Damian Grouse It definitely should. Why the hell would anyone buy a 2500/250 truck and _not_ tow with it?

[@NicholasJohnson57]

That's because many of the base truck sales are to organizations, companies, government entities etc... They do not do a lot of towing so its a feature they do not need. no reason to include it if the customer has no interest in it.

[@VlauableFather]

Damian Grouse do you have to complain about something or can you just shut up?

[@damiangrouse4564]

Nathan Manns I don't think you're smart enough to notice the irony in your comment, so apply your advice to yourself.

[@damiangrouse4564]

calzz5757 You make a good point. By the same token they would also not "need" a diesel with its higher cost of regular maintenance. I believe this channel has produced videos on the subject with Mr. Truck.

[@noahbannister1834]

Honestly chevy over ford or ford over dodge its a battle fighting fire with fire no one can win its a waste of everyones time to argue over it

[@dodgeguyz]

Hmm, my 02 Excursion with the V-10 and 4.30 gears will do 60 up the side of a mountain also towing my 9500lb TT. That's 18klbs combined. 15 year old technology, that keeps up with the new stuff!

[@TFLtruck]

+dodgeguyz That is a great towing vehicle. Although worse fuel economy when empty.

[@tantacus]

I have a 04 Excursion with the v10 and I have towed my 9000lb TT with about 1200lbs cargo and went up the ike no problem. went across country and could easily do 80mh if I wasn't worried about trailer sway. 6pmg average. I will keep it as long as it lasts. It has 215k on it and only changed a battery since I got it 2 years ago.

[@juliocervantes4994]

Glad to see this gas 250 made it without braking down, last time fan broke and the was coolant everywhere.

[@mario-sl6cz]

can you ask the guys at ford why they discontinued the rear sliding window in the regular cab F-series?

[@MDKN22]

Wow the Ford KILLED the Ram.

[@joe1071]

Same story, different day

[@leonardalldread5852]

Thanks tfl been waiting for this test

[@fordf150nation4]

Chevrolet =Constantly Having Every Vehicle Recalled Over Lousy Engineering Techniques

[@Legend.......]

Willy whacker 69 Chevy = shitty

[@michaelthompson1110]

Looks like the Cammer beat the Hemi just like they did in the 60's.

[@Kmecha84]

Hmm that's weird, not even a whisper from a ram Hemi guy lol

[@tannerwharton4670]

Hahaha

[@stacyadiaz]

I would love to see this same test with an F250 6.2 equipped with the 4.30 gears. For some reason, Ford is making very few 4.30 geared F250's. Certain dealerships are ordering them but they are hard to find on the lot, new or used.

[@trials_bike-xu3xf]

I'd be interested in seeing how this compares to the 2018 f150 that can tow 13,000 pounds (with the correct options to get that towing

[@charitycharity3316]

2.6 mpg in the uk you would have had to declare chapter 11 when you got to the top

[@NordicNevs]

Actually the time was 3 weeks 2 days and 8 minutes and 53 seconds XD

[@jerejoy5196]

80% of people would be perfectly fine without the power stroke (and all the hassles) when the gas version is this good.

[@Lestergreen77]

95 percent. Only 5 percent MAX tow more than 20k lbs

[@Prestiged_peck]

This holds true even more now in 2022 when we have the 7.3, and the 6.2 can be had with the 10 speed in f350 guise.

[@MikeJohnson-nr4yo]

Based on the videos from TFL. 1.F250 2.Chevy 2500 3.Ram 2500 ???

[@FrankySilverFace]

The 3 buttons on Mr trucks brown leather vest are hardest working components in this test!

[@MrTruckTV]

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[@nickahner3055]

daviesakiller you make fun of kents body yet your grammar skills are far from perfect so shut your mouth and leave him along

[@nonrevhogan8938]

Don't see you working at putting in hours and after hours of your time to put out videos and reviews and answer people's questions. Oh yea. Your hard work is writing a stupid comment. Good Job! #@#$$%hole. Thanks Mr. Truck for your time you put in. Sorry you have to listen to aholes.

[@nonrevhogan8938]

daviesakiller yes that makes sense. Just looks like another stupid comment to these guys that try to put out content. Now my feelings are hurt.

[@FrankySilverFace]

NonRev feelings are like that. Put them away lol ...I deleted the meanness. Enjoy your night.

[@ussenterprise5364]

Wow! Beautiful Colorado, how I miss it!

[@ieatpussy1000]

I'm a Chevy guy, but this is very impressive!

[@F450FTW]

These older Ike runs are so much better than the new ones. I'd like to see a 6.2 10speed 4:30 vs a 7.3 10 speed. Without flashing away from the action every 5 seconds!!!

[@bosse641]

you two are so good together. ....very enjoyable to watch your segments.

[@MrTruckTV]

Thanks

[@jaden.s107daysago4]

The 6.2 lives to be ran on high rpm

[@michellevestal6849]

Wow! I just had a water pump failure like this on my 2017 F250. Took out radiator, air conditioner, power steering, coolant reservoir and several other components. Stranded and still waiting for parts and repair. Thankfully it’s under warranty but I hadn’t ever heard of this problem prior to having my own catastrophic engine failure 🤬

[@johnnolte4455]

I’ve had a 6.2 liter for about 3 years now. Impressive towing and mileage and power for gas. Unfortunately the valve spring broke and caused a catastrophic failure, Ford didn’t cover the repairs completely (complete new motor) but they helped out. Pretty impressed in the end.

[@ck3561]

How many miles? If it’s under 60k or 5 years what prevented Ford from completely covering it? Just curious. I own a 22 f250 6.2 I also purchased 100k warranty

[@chadjurgensen73]

Mr Truck - truck nuts on the truck on the trailer, seriously?

[@MrTruckTV]

Come on, when you folks thought I farted in an episode of "Ask MrTruck", there were 30 comments. Are we going to get 30 comments on my truck nuts? They match the red barb wire headache rack and the red long horn bull on my hood. At least you noticed my truck, it served it's purpose.

[@MDKN22]

The Ford's fixed... but the Ram is really just mud.

[@TheSPAZZANATER]

if everybody says one brand is better then another. does that mean they all are good trucks?

[@erickdriver2]

TheSPAZZANATER Well, Ford never went bankrupt. Chrysler has done it twice. There's always that...

[@Kcducttaper1]

They're presently up for sale now, I believe.

[@josephdan2850]

Chrysler is terrible car company because it always have financial problems since I have been life. Chrysler should go out of business along with their ram division. Ford and gm don't have as many problems as Chrysler.

[@Kcducttaper1]

I like the Cummins motors in the Dodge pickups, and some of the interiors are indeed a nice place to be. But, they just always seem to be a step or two behind Ford/Chevy IMO. I'm sure some people will disagree, but that's been my experience over the last ~20 years.

[@josephdan2850]

Ram might look nice but they aren't reliable. Ram is worse selling pick up truck. While Ford f series pick up trucks are best sellers. Ford f series pick up trucks are best sellers for reason.

[@josephdan2850]

Ford always tell truth and they want to satisfy their customers. I am impressed with f-250.

[@jamesgarner4509]

Joseph Dan Ford did good but at about 200lbs less weight than the Chevy or Dodge they gross weight of 21500 up Ike Ford was 19500.

[@truepyro28]

How does his compare to the 6.7 towing similar weight? Thinking about getting out of a diesel and into a brand new 6.2

[@christopherdalley411]

How is the comfort on 5 hour drives in the gasser F250 compared to the Chevy 2500?

[@thejuiceisloose8703]

I have an 11 f250 supercab 4x4 with the 6.2. The seats make the trip incredible. Just know that a straight axle truck rides way more rough than a truck with an independent front suspension. I love my truck though. Just avoid pot holes.

[@chipskylark8869]

Just imagine you bought a ford and it died the first time you tow...

[@Clint_the_Audio-Photo_Guy]

Is it weird that I want one, but have nothing to tow. I just want to sit up high and drive over stuff, haha. Plus by the time I add 4x4 to an F-150 it costs as much as an F250!

[@MrBuddyballs79]

Who is actually surprised the Ford was the fastest?? Dodge is junk with GM only marginally better. I wish they'd do a gas ecoboost for the super duty series. Modern diesels have become maintenance nightmares.

[@user-taco99]

Ford all the way

[@erics9754]

To the shop.

[@nathanmcdonald610]

@@erics9754 Where it'll pickup the broken down Chevy's and Dodges and haul them to the scrapyard where they belong.

[@dominicracca6955]

If you ask me no matter what the Ram wins!! The reason... A brand new Ford blew up on the first run!!

[@cesarpalmos8235]

Right.."blew up"..and yet the ram diesel cant be sold because?...

[@dominicracca6955]

The only Ram Diesel that was blocked was the 3.0. The Cummins was not on the blocked list. Also the 3.0 is back on the market, they proved its emissions were within standards.

[@frankshook3511]

Cesar Palmos that’s been resolved for a while now... www.tfltruck.com/2017/07/can-buy-2017-ram-1500-ecodiesel-trucks-news/

[@samthecarguy1143]

I wouldn't have thought mr. Truck to be the kind of guy to have a set of balls on the back of his truck 😂😂😂😂

[@gobil5274]

Leather and Carpet don't make the truck tow or haul better. It makes your ass and brain feel better. Thanks TFLT

[@MultiPurposeReviewer]

Anyone else been watching TFL so long that they can now hum right along with whatever music they use?

[@larryspiller15]

"Small breakdown" LOL

[@lrburns4]

larry Spiller I have the same truck but a crew cab it's gone cross country about 4 times fully loaded no issue...

[@shawnriddle3018]

We should add the 3 weeks to get the Ford fixed to the total time to climb the hill.

[@Chet2378]

Great video as always, I love the Ike Gauntlet! Do you think Ford tuned it up when they fixed it? Just me being suspicious. Lots of traffic on this channel for them to ignore a bad run.

[@TFLtruck]

+Necron Overlord Great Question. We don't know but we don't have the resources to test for this potential issue so we have to take Ford at their word that the trucks we test are the same ones our readers and viewers can buy.

[@piaoliang5467]

Just think about the guy who is gona BUY this truck after the test! This test is everything that the MANUAL says NOT TO DO during break-in period..

[@hfdtyhgyuycf2301]

piaoliang correct

[@fernsanchez4787]

piaoliang it has 8k on it already…

[@gravitygear]

that's a media test loaner vehicle. It gets the crusher when it's done.

[@RhinoXpress]

wonder how much better the 10 speed auto version will do in mpgs when it comes out in 2019.

[@heavymetal375]

SteelCity1981 they aren't making a 10 speed auto for the super duty in 2019

[@rvninnorthcarolina3377]

It is a possible 2020 or late 2019 option from what I was told. Just bought a 2019 F250 with the 6.2 and I did ask. They have a lot of requests but the transmission is based on the 3.5 EcoBoost 10 speed but is HD so it is different. I decided not to wait because I am not one to take on the first model year of a major component like a transmission. I will let them work out the kinks and maybe trade when/if it makes sense. I can tell you the truck I have is nice and seems to have the HP. I will find out when I take the trailer/RV out in a couple weeks. Been towing it with my '06 MegaCab Ram so we will see which pulls better. BTW, I have the RAM still so I can fan boy by myself...Ford is better...No RAM smokes Ford. Why the Ford over RAM...dealers in my area are supper bad. I had my RAM serviced when I had a warranty and it was a nightmare. Ford Dealer is awesome. The RAM is not THAT MUCH better that I have to deal with crappy dealers and their crappy mechanics. Hey, but I still have both anyway...I just fix my own RAM now.

[@yesno.idontknow.587]

In 2020 u mean

[@tonithompson9086]

The Ecoboost should tow better according to dyno results (low end RPM).

[@kenj.8897]

Lol

[@jakerton97]

I don't understand why you grade a truck for break applications. No matter what you buy no tow haul mode will keep the truck at cruise speed perfectly.

[@douglasgroff7648]

209°F for the transmission? Wow, that is hot, and not normal. Our Ram 3500 has never broken 170° towing our 40' fifth wheel, which tips the scales at 18,000lbs. We have done our own Super Ike, crossing from Silverthorne to Empire, then up US 40 and 34 to Gand Lake, CO. US 40 is a torture test on transmissions, as you have scrub speed for the curves, then build it back up on the straights. Would almost like to the TFL guys test on US 40 between Empire and Winter Park, because that was a more brutal slug up the hill than I-70. Or, how about Loveland Pass? Nope, they'll probably stick to I-70, where the advantage for having more HP outweighs having more torque (speed vs. acceleration).

[@JasonLee-qj8ts]

CAN'T WAIT TO SEE THE >>>> 7.3 10 SPEED IKE TEST!!!

[@JasonLee-qj8ts]

would be awesome if the 7.3 10 speed could do the same run at 2500rpm vs 4500!!

[@R.E.L.Asphalt_Sealcoating]

Fact 1 the Ford broke down out of all the trucks Fact 2 Ram was loaded with 12,500 lbs plus extra Weight of v8 vs v6 and less weight of ford in general. So. Fact 3 Ford can pull less weight faster up guantlet but not without breaking down first Fact 4 Ford got stuck in gear at the end look at Mr. TRUCKS face hahaha. Fact 5 i bought Ram 2500.😀

[@andrewd7795]

What? Both had v8's and the Ford definitely didn't get stuck in gear, it was holding a gear like it should. The Ram did terrible, but it did pull up more weight.

[@R.E.L.Asphalt_Sealcoating]

So nothing wrong with ford breaking down and a oh well because of less weight. If it weighs less it should pull more right? Not here ford pulls least and weighs less wth so hard about that. I don't know why I said v6 haha. He said I'm stuck in gear. 6.27 listen

[@undeadlich1]

Hey tfl question how long does it take to get up the ike without a load? So whats the shortest amount of time you can get up the ike if you stayed at the speed limit the whole time.

[@sealtite87]

38k and not 4x4. Kick rocks

[@nonrevhogan8938]

Hey Guys, glad to see the F250 back at it. Hopefully in a Q&A segment you can talk about the grade shifting more. Heard your say that the RPM's were probably above the sweet spot. But when Andre was summing up with the 12 brake applications, I saw the trans was in 3rd. So it must have shifted down at some point. Video was a lot shorter than usual. Would have liked to seen more on the downhill part. Like when did it start to get down to 3rd? I expected better too. Guess best option is to manual shift down when you want to hold a different speed. Does that trans let you lock out a gear or two? Remember the 150 did. Good to see you all on the Gauntlet. Would like to see a longer version available for us that want to see it. Thanks.......

[@markhansen4258]

I wouldn't touch a dodge with a ten foot pole. Chevy, I would buy a duramax if I could find one. They don't make many. Power stroke makes me happy.

[@Bluefoxx3]

I work at Larry Miller Ford here in Colorado as a Lot Tech. The base model F-150 and F-250 are better known as "Fleet" Vehicles, they're sold to various companies, oddly enough most of the Fleet Vehicles aren't even sold to construction companies. But Fleet Vehicles are still available to the general public though they're not very popular for obvious reasons but I still see the everyday customer taking one of them home. Still a comfortable truck, I've delivered several base model F-250/150s, but I wouldn't recommend a Fleet variant unless you just need a towing truck without all the extra cost and luxury that a Platinum, Lariat, King Ranch or even XLT's offer.

[@randlayman2668]

Thanks to your videos such as this, I recently purchased a 2021 F250 set up in this configuration as I did not want a diesel and did not need the 7.3 for my tow vehicle. I'll be retiring in a couple years and plan on getting out and seeing our country, mostly the western states on up to Alaska.

[@deereman8237]

If I were to buy one of these trucks (which I have been looking for one similar), I’d look for one with the 4.30 rear end. They seem to pull much better! Needing a 3/4 ton for my lawn and landscape company. Really like the gas Ford better than the Ram. GM needs to step up their game to even be in the ballpark as to what I want in a new truck!

[@rocketj7449]

Nice Job Kent and Andre. That's tranny rear end combo puts the revs in the sweet spot for maximum power climbing at highway speeds. Wonder why Chevy and Dodge hasn't caught on. Ford knows how to build a truck.

[@MrTruckTV]

Thanks

[@01trsmar]

Ford and GM use the same transmissions..

[@stevewozniak8396]

01trsmar I believe the only tranny they share is the 10 speed

[@xaviermcquiston1604]

Correct (Which isn't used in their Heavy duty trucks in case anyone didn't put two-and-two together).

[@cmusic52]

Dang people... your complaining about a guy that wrote a book named Truck Nuts cause he has some on the back of one of his trucks....maybe ur head IS just a hat rack...

[@sugargoldy]

You guys got the perfect job

[@throws56]

Its August 2023 and my morning is ruined when they tell you can get into a HD truck for $34k.

[@namechef7344]

As a Ford guy, I've recently rented the new 26 foot f650 uhaul with v10. Engine and tranny work flawlessly but, it's got 7k on it and the a.c. has already gone out, the cruise control doesn't work for shit. Honestly kind of disappointed.... Ford does need to step it up..........

[@callofdutyguy9]

John Wyskochil should have went with a real commercial truck like an International Durastar or Freightliner M2106 with DT466 or Cummins 6.7

[@bryantbunyard7241]

John Wyskochil really the ford f550 and 650 that we use are great but the rams are junk.

[@bryantbunyard7241]

RAM TRUCKS really we have ram's and Ford's we have a lot of problems with our ram's we have some problems with our Ford's to but not nearly as much as the rams junk man just junk.

[@namechef7344]

I just arrived after 1700 miles, truck did good. Maybe I was cranky but it was just a bit annoying......good truck overall! The a.c. going out was by far the WORST part......

[@bryane2857]

They all have issues. I'm a chevy guy but come on ... Step it up? I am pretty sure Ford knows what they are doing building trucks.

[@GIGABACHI]

Sounds pretty "racy" for a work truck exhaust.

[@Dexter_Solid]

I still think you guys should re do the ike with premium gas and make the ram shift to a lower gear for hp. I get it that its, let the truck handle it, but if you're looking for performance numbers, the agressive engine protect program found in the rams wont really allow the truck to show off.

[@jessaphillips2846]

amazing that this truck is $20k less than the top of the line 1/2 tons and its more capable than they are with the exception of off roading.

[@TFLtruck]

+Jessa Phillips That is a great point

[@Treyk901]

How can you compare a fully loaded 1/2 ton to a bare bones base model HD truck?? A base F150 is $5,155 cheaper. Fully load the HD truck and it will cost way more.

[@jessaphillips2846]

Trey K because I’m talking about how much truck you can get for your dollar. Maybe it’s the practical side in me but I would rather have a base model 3/4 or 1 ton than a fully loaded 1/2 ton if I planned to use it for work even if I didn’t plan on using its full capability. The base models have more than enough tech for me.

[@2500mike]

Jessa Phillips I agree. I've had several heavy duty trucks. My current base model is a 1500. Probably my favorite truck to date. 17 ram tradesman. Best part was 25k out the door.

[@linh811]

Men today are princesses....

[@Kcducttaper1]

0:47 According to Ford: A failed water pump....caused a brand new serpentine belt to break? How would it break a belt without squealing like a banshee first (which the TFL guys would have obviously noticed)?!? Not only that, but a failed serpentine belt caused a mechanical fan to move laterally and shoved it into the radiator?!? So....am I to understand that a serpentine belt is literally holding the radiator fan longitudinally in place??? Wow, ford, That's the worst excuse I've heard in a long time!

[@Kcducttaper1]

Lol. Thanks, but in all fairness, that's not a terribly difficult feat.

[@laplante149]

The fan probably hit the belt and cut it, if the water pump bearings were failing it was heating the shaft that connects to the mechanical fan and when it is spinning at that rate of rpm it will bend causing it to go out of balance, and be able to hit the radiator and cut the serpentine belt, seen it happen before, bad part caused allot more problems

[@780brando]

The belt likely wasn't cut. It probably fell off when the water pump froze up and the water pump pulley twisted the shaft off, which also supports the cooling fan. Although being soaked in coolant the belt is junk now anyways regardless if it was cut or not.

[@HIIMUsc]

well the same happened once on a Semi here in Germany, luckily the fan didnt break, just changed the waterpump + the belt on the Autobahn and it was all good :)

[@deereman8237]

Why so many mechanics drive GMCs. Good Mechanic Coming... lol jk.

[@ck3561]

What is normal transmission temperature when towing

[@beemrmem3]

They need to make. 5.0 ecoboost for the heavy duty fords.

[@steveb3448]

beemrmem3 someone had a twin turbo 5.0 for sale on fb

[@Demonoid1990]

Well they have the 7.3 coming out soon! Slap a supercharger on it and call it a day. Pretty sure Roush or someone will sort that out pretty quick after it hits the dealer lots. 430hp and 475 ft lbs of torque is already pretty impressive for an NA engine, that and it's probably detuned for reliability and longevity. I can only speculate for now, but I'm certain it'll be a beast for a gas engine.

[@mforce8117]

I for one would like to see a Ram 2500 with the 5.7 run the Ike.

[@jacobsebastien3910]

😅

[@urangostang]

7:30 haha say that 5 times fast

[@12valveproductions65]

Wow it didn't die that is shocking I am not kidding either

[@elihernandez330]

I know guy that blew 10k extra just to tow a kayak looking mini fishing boat with it. That probably only weighs 3k at most. An f150 with a 3.3 or a turbo 4 ranger could tow that or anything really.

[@joshakaoger69]

The ford did break so.... lol

[@quikagc5]

Mr. Truck, take the truck nuts off your truck. It's pretty trashy and low class. How would you like it if your granddaughter asked you what that was when you're driving around and she sees it on another truck? It's stupid.

[@MrTruckTV]

I never said I was high class. I'm happy with who I am

[@joelesko681]

Corey Wells they're truck nuts.... he sells a book with TFL called 'Truck Nuts'....if his granddaughter asks what they are he will simply explain that they're fake bull testicles that he attached to his truck for fun..... no big deal.

[@joelesko681]

MrTruckTV the truck nuts should stay!! Great advertising for your book.

[@nucl3arfamily906]

Corey Wells ....They are all over the place around here. My kid has never asked about them.. but if she did, Id laugh about it it, lighten it up and tell her! Im mean WTF? Im not saying we shouldn't have some decorum and all but Im also not a complete prude. What is this world coming to that we have to be THAT big a bunch of freakin snowflakes??? If you don't like truck nuts, then dont put em on your truck. If you dont want your granddaughter to see them then hide her eyes. There's plenty of other far more legit things to worry about our kids seeing...I can think of commercials on TV that should "alarm" you more than a set of truck nuts. GEEZ.

[@MrTruckTV]

Thanks

[@tekblade2992]

It would be nice to see this same test but for the truck to have the 4.10 gear in the rear

[@shigmonty]

There's a lot of butt hurt dodge and chevy guys in here. hehehe They hate the fact that fords a superior to them and every way.

[@haywire17]

Am I the only one who thinks the 1000lbs difference in the GCW of this run(19,500lbs) vs. the Chevy (20,500) and the Dodge (20,280) was a factor? On an incline with a rolling load, a few hundred pounds can make a big difference. The Ford had the lightest load by far (A full 1/2 Ton less!). Simple physics, I think. I enjoy watching these videos, but for all the "efforts to compare the trucks equally", you really have to take these reviews not-so-seriously.

[@andrewd7795]

Ford had the lightest load but was the only truck without their towing gears. The Ford only had the 3.73 versus the 4.30, which is why it's gcwr was lower. Plus the difference between a GCWR of 19,500 and 20,500 is only 5%.

[@jjwatson858]

All you guys talking shit about brands obviously ford is really good if tfl and mr.truck favors them

[@widdisonplumbing]

Thanks for the update. I've been waiting to see this sence the first episode with the fan problem. You guys do an amazing job.

[@nof-bdybs6948]

Am I seeing this right? Ram did 13:20, and the Ford did a sub 9 minute run?

[@LUNITICWILL]

9 minute run.

[@nof-bdybs6948]

LUNITIC WILL edit

[@MFPWM2010]

No F-Bdy Bs Ram has an unfortunate feature where the computer limits the RPMs in first gear to 4500. Ram's explanation is that this feature helps protect the engine. But it definitely slows it down when tested this way.

[@nof-bdybs6948]

MFPWM2010, That sucks, but wouldn't hurt the time by 4 minutes. Would only apply for the first few hundred feet. 4 minute difference is massive.

[@MFPWM2010]

No F-Bdy Bs If you watch the videos of them testing the Ram (they have done a couple Ike challenges with it) they are stuck at one RPM level the whole time, which really limits their speed the entire test.

[@bricesandri4672]

Hey guys hoping you can help me out! I’m pulling a 32 foot travel trailer that weighs about 7000 pounds with a 2017 1500 Silverado. I believe it is to heavy. I don’t feel comfortable pulling it. My question is do you feel that the 6.2L would be a lot better towing my trailer? Is the 6.2 big enough for a trailer like that?... thanks guys!

[@jacobsebastien3910]

Wayy Better!"

[@rodrigodejesus6519]

Should definitely do the the 2017 F-250 diesel 6.7

[@MarcMonson]

ford must of secretly installed the raptor tune to the 6.2 while they were fixing it. that extra torque helped when it shifted up and the revs dropped to 3800 allowing it to accelerate into the hp band. did the ram even make 60mph?

[@teodoromendoza8250]

No disrespect to you Mr. Rodriguez cuz your of my Spanish race but you in your heart know that even if they make a gas Chevy it will not quit unlike Ford will and even on the news their always talking about Ford engines burning up and diesel trucks save more gas and put out more power. I went to college and I know scientific things and the engineers at Chevy got it locked down on making the best truck available for towing very heavy loads so I would advise that you dumb the Ford before it comes back and bites you in the ass and go to a Chevrolet dealership and test drive the Chevy duramax diesels and you'll see how beautiful of a truck it is with its powerful 6.9 litre v8 engine and you'll see why it's a Chevy world

[@Pitcrew55]

AND THE 3.5 FORD V6 BLOWS THE DOORS OF BIG BAD HEMI 5.7 AND 6.4 ? NOW THE EXCUSES AND AND BASHING START LOL NEWS FLASH THE 3.5 V6 HAS 4 VALES PER CYL AND DO YOU KNOW HOW THEY ARE POSITIONED ? SURPRISE LIKE THE HEMI ? AND DO YOU KNOW THE 3.5 HAS A 6 BOLT MAIN AND OIL NOZEL PISTON SKIRT COOLERS ?

[@sethmartin1192]

it needs a cummins

[@chopperguy5569]

Seth Martin it doesn't need to become weaker

[@decafam3410]

Impressive to me, but only if the water pump didn't die the first time, come on Ford, where is the quality control? Terrible, and I love you guys, but that is just object failure of quality in that part, a critical part of the truck.

[@Bj-vi3tq]

Never owned a dodge and been a ford guy my whole life, but the dodge was pulling 3k lbs more than this one. I'd never buy the dodge because I can get the f250 with the 7.3 and stay brand loyal, but the hemi is a stronger truck than this one.

[@kylegagne8953]

The fact that this base model with a gas engine is 38,000 is absurd. Trucks are getting outrageously expensive

[@erics9754]

Jeez i wonder who will win .Of course Ford will on the ford channel with the truck goof and his pants tucked in his boots. lol.

[@pumpindiesel1747]

Wow it didn't break down this time. I'm still a ram guy no matter what. better trucks they are the long lasting pickups if you want a reliable truck go for a Dodge Ram.

[@josephdan2850]

Now you should buy 2017 f-250 pick up truck. They are reliable, safe, and tow very well.

[@arcticfox5118]

Joseph Dan I don't trust the new aluminium on ford, Ill keep my 2012 ram, Besides fords feel cheap until you get way into the high end and i find they ride worse loaded or empty then dodge. Honestly it comes down to prefrence in this day and age but i dont like fords.

[@kenrobinson1099]

I disagree - towing is not a Ford truck forte at all.

[@donavanglasser9247]

Pumpin Diesel I'll take my 302 Ford and my 7.3l Ford over any Dodge anyday for reliability.

[@kenrobinson1099]

You can't use 7.3 and reliability in the same sentence. 302's are gutless boat anchors.

[@izzycordova2297]

Can y'all please find a better off raid place for the ford vs chevy vs dodge because alote of new ford trucks have came out 🚚