Can the James Webb Space Telescope Find Alien Life? w/ Jacob Haqq-Misra

Will the James Webb Space Telescope Solve the Fermi paradox?
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The James Webb Space Telescope is now fully operational and soon will be providing it's first color images. Will the James Webb Telescope be used to look for intelligent life? The JWST can be used to look for techno signatures on exoplanets from extraterrestrial intelligent civilizations on planets with populations of 100 billion or more. The technique that Jacob Haqq-Misra proposes to use to find alien civilizations is by looking at the 'Disruption of a Planetary Nitrogen Cycle as Evidence of Extraterrestrial Agriculture'.
This possible solution to the fermi paradox would use next generation space telescopes like the James Webb Space Telescope and the proposed LUVOIR Large Ultraviolet Optical Infrared Surveyor.
00:00:00 Intro
00:00:30 Masterworks
00:02:18 Bio
00:03:08 Technosignatures that James Webb Space Telescope can find
00:06:40 Why making ammonia helps build populations to billions
00:08:55 Seeing a Alien Civlization with James Webb Telescope
00:12:09 Alien agriculture worlds and other techno signatures with JWST
00:15:47 Looking for dead aliens
00:23:19 Is the solution to the Fermi paradox that everyone stays home?
00:29:22 Evolution should occur on alien worlds
00:31:21 Necrosignatures
00:42:20 Alien mining in the solar system
Disruption of a Planetary Nitrogen Cycle as Evidence of Extraterrestrial Agriculture
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[@EventHorizonShow]

Should we use the JWST to look for alien life? Let John know what you think.

[@LAMPROS311]

One of the most interesting aspects of space exploration is the search for alien life and alien civilizations. We should definetely use it for this purpose.

[@robski907]

100 % we should why not the tech is there , thank's for the quality output John.

[@007yeti]

Most definitely.

[@Rick-Rarick]

100%

[@secretbassrigs]

🥂

[@MyLifeInVideos]

I like when he said "we are someone else's alien civilization" I never thought of it like that fascinating.

[@thedoruk6324]

I seriously wholeheartedly hope that they *will* use the immense opportunity that james webb gives to look closer to water moons like europa enceladus that could gave huge hints about themselves and biome - perhaps they could look systems like trappist 1 or gliese 581 ! My genuine answer is *defiitely yes!* We really should actively use james webb telescope to search for habitable systems and life harboring planets and moons

[@Fatusbeergutus]

it's infrared telescope, may not detect anything that cold

[@thedoruk6324]

@@Fatusbeergutus ıt is more than worth a shot like very much so also the other exoplanet systems too

[@friendlyone2706]

and the star now thought to be the WOW signal source.

[@thedoruk6324]

@@friendlyone2706 u serious

[@Fatusbeergutus]

@@thedoruk6324 yes it is, it would prove if Europa has a hot core, if it does that would almost prove an ocean

[@OShackHennessy]

This is my favorite channel now. What an awesome thing you’re doing here man great job!

[@friendlyone2706]

The raw data from JWST should be released publicly as soon as received. When the raw data was finally released from a Jupiter probe, the officials in charge were astounded how much more quality information "amateurs" were able to ferret out of the data than had been thought possible. The "amateurs" asked questions the officials had not thought of and -- like all good questions -- led to new insights.

[@rapomnam]

JWST should be used to look for alien life. It should also be used to look at everything we think is in the designed capability envelope, and many things we think are outside that envelope. Learn all the things, push all the limits.

[@BadOompaloompa79]

You can look up what observation time has be allotted towards so far and find out more about how observations are selected from proposals online. I think both NASA and the ESA have websites that discuss it.

[@rawbebaba]

I think they will look at everything it's capable of looking at. Personally I don't think finding signs of life is that important. It would literally take an idiot to think it hadn't existed, problem is, we will be getting info the is millions to hundreds of millions of years old.

[@BadOompaloompa79]

@@rawbebaba sure, odds are that life exists somewhere. But how common is it? What is it's nature? So many questions and finally being able to observe the composition of exoplanet atmospheres could possibly show that simple life is quite common. ( Or the opposite)

[@stephenhurd1489]

I honestly don't think we're in the right time. Life in newer galaxies maybe but our old glowing coal, a remnant of better things past. N

[@Kenny-zv4pp]

@Charles blythe • Duh? One telescope 🔭 can only do so much! Thousands of people around the world 🌎 are waiting for their alloted time on the scope, so importance of projects depends upon individual perspective of endeavors.

[@oiocha5706]

Advanced intelligences with high technology are extremely rare, and among those few that do emerge...some of them become ultra efficient, some move into their "Matrix," some stay quiet, some self destruct, and so on, and so on....I think this is what explains the Fermi Paradox.

[@ShellyBBird]

So excited for this one! This exact title is something I’ve been hoping for. Thank you Mr. Godier.

[@StevieObieYT]

Wow! Imagine if the JWST actually detected alien life... I wouldn't be surprised really because the JWST is so advanced and there's no way we're alone in the universe... But at the same time, I'd be really surprised because aliens... 😱👽 🤯

[@Henrikbuitenhuis]

Just in time, as always. Thanks so much for the video and info. I wish you All the best.

[@stricknine6130]

Great interview! I feel spoiled with all the content lately. Thanks for the episode. 😁

[@Rick-Rarick]

Thank you for all the amazing content! So relaxing and informative!

[@chrischrzanowski7617]

And let’s go Bills! Originally from Fredonia.

[@007yeti]

I'm new to this channel and I'm loving ❤ it keep up the good work 👏 from England 🇬🇧 with love.

[@Laurasiana]

Thanks for mentioning what I think is the most compelling answer to the Fermi Paradox: colonizing space is hard, and offers little return. The idea that a civilization would - or could - maintain a 1.5 million-year-long project to populate the galaxy seems ludicrous. One solar system can support a population of many trillions. I don’t see any serious effort being made to send multitudes of colonists in sleeper ships, much less generation ships.

[@zachb8012]

Even if you look at birth rates on Earth over the last 100 years the impact of technology and education have inversely affected the birth rates of many cultures. There just doesn't need to be a population of trillions. It could be eventually a species learns it's all about quality over quantity, and focuses on making their own planet a verdant utopia. Especially if they've mastered terraforming what reason is there to move to another world, let alone another star system? There might be trillions of technologically advanced civs, by millions of years, but other than scientific endeavors or an extinction event they're content to stay at home and chill with the family. Maybe priorities simply change once your civ gets far enough down the tech tree. A dyson sphere makes sense to us but it could just as well sound laughably absurd as building a nuclear power plant to run your PC. I honestly think he nailed it when he said, "maybe the answer to the Fermi paradox is that alien civilizations are just difficult to see."

[@bozo5632]

Imagine interstellar internet latency. I bet civs stay small, like as small a radius as possible. Light seconds not light years.

[@RyanGoodin-bh3py]

What would you propose?

[@MarkyCannoli]

Love the content, keep ‘em coming!

[@davedogge2280]

Small increments in technological advancements each one presenting us with more of a chance of finding intelligent life out there comparable to ours or above that is !

[@madmattdigs9518]

Definitely we should. Finding another intelligent civilization somewhere out there in the cosmos would be such a HUGE discovery. I would be content to die after that discovery. Just to know… My gut feeling is that they are out there. Just very rare. We’re very special.

[@friendlyone2706]

Or know we live in a dangerous universe --- and we are "like an escaped pet canary, singing from the tree tops, beneath a sky full of hawks."

[@markstewart5822]

I dont think we are special at all. I think that can of arrogant thinking, could be humanity's downfall.

[@madmattdigs9518]

@@markstewart5822 you don’t think intelligent life in the universe is special??? It sure doesn’t appear to be common. It’s pretty amazing that billions of years ago we had a planet around a star with some chemistry going on… and now we have “ all this”. Isn’t it? And it’s arrogant of me to say so??? That’s a bizarre comment to make. I would love to hear your definition of special.

[@friendlyone2706]

@@markstewart5822 Or not appreciating our specialness can lead to taking for granted our lives.

[@rwarren58]

@@friendlyone2706 It’s only four years at the speed of light to Proxima. Have we sent a message there?

[@90days90]

i didnt know you had a second channel! both are so much qualityyyyy

[@ballsack6547]

Perfect timing for to listen as I go to bed,always interesting, cheers John . From Scotland 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@Mr.Deleterious]

Best day of the week! New Event Horizon video day 🤘🏻🤘🏻

[@justinfocker]

I’m saving this gem for 10pm.

[@rarabbb]

i love how many of these have been coming out lately this is amazing its like a new one to help me sleep nearly every night sometimes ive to listen to one 3 times tho soooooo relaxing

[@mckirkus]

It seems like there has been a shift where scientists are suddenly more open to talking about these once taboo topics.

[@nutyyyy]

If anything they've always been overly optimistic. It's only really a taboo to talk about UFOs as Aliens because they probably aren't. Intelligent life is still likely exceedingly rare and I'd put money on us never detecting it.

[@illacq5416]

Yes

[@robbabcock_]

Finally! Some scientist says what I've suspected for years; the notion of Von Neuman probes just may be too fantastical. It's hard to extrapolate our technology to a point where we can make self replicating machines that can keep working for millions of years. Our oldest probe (Voyager) is failing due to the radiation in interstellar space and it's only 50 years old. It's tempting to have a "Marvel MCU" belief in technology eventually just magically doing whatever the plot requires. It may be a bridge to far for a probe to be able to mine all the raw materials, fabricate the necessary building materials (eg titanium, steel, silicon wafers, "unobtainium" panels, etc), refine fuels and then build another copy of itself, all without any intervention from us. It's tempting in light of our last 100 years of innovation to think tech has no limits but that may not be the case. At any rate, great episode!🙏 I hope you can have Haqq-Misra on again soon.

[@fluffyspunsugar]

I've been waiting for a video on this subject! Thank you.

[@rickstorm4198]

@Jacob ..... Fellow percussionist here.... Best way to detect life is looking for paradiddles in space. 😁

[@nicholasmills6489]

The new seti technology is so exciting. The ability to perhaps identify techno signatures on exoplanets is tremendously exciting. I’m looking forward to techno signatures being spotted on distant worlds. For me it’s only a matter of time.

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By far my fav channel

[@jrssimracing5092]

Always appreciate your Content 👍

[@000fisherman]

tHIS IS ONE OF YOUR BEST SHOWS, BRILLIANT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@mattlucas6440]

Great show!

[@Big.Ron1]

Yes, We should be looking for sure.

[@BalsamicWater]

Have your subscriptions been shooting up lately ? Your smashing it, appreciate the great content 😀

[@cowlevelcrypto2346]

I think when we say "Techno-signature" we need to admit that we mean "Techno-signatures like ours" . Electron charge manipulation has certainly given us many options and conveniences , but may not be the end-all and only high tech that we currently think it is.

[@thefoolishhiker3103]

This discussion was fascinating.

[@singletona082]

Miss Erin's ad read at the start? Even with me not really trustful of the offered service? I love he ad roll based on her reading of it. Thank you for making it an entertaining listen.

[@oraz.]

Great guest. I want to read his book.

[@_jkb]

Great voice, sir.

[@c_douglasdillion745]

OMG...JMG...Love, love, love your channels. Can’t get enough and so glad you are able to post more. Your shorts on the ‘other channel’ are so understated yet thought provoking they are spooky ! One correction or clarification here. As I am an AMS seal holder as well. AMS seals are (were) issued by the American Meteorological Society, not any university. Although Penn State is notorious for Meteorological research, no doubt. As a side note to the said seal, AMS no longer issues this seal (although they allow 5 year renewals for a fee and ‘professional points’) their new seal is CBM. Not to be confused with CMB and that Big Bang echoing. Doh !! Keep us the stellar work, my friend !! Have Netflix producers called you yet ?

[@TheEGCRACKER]

Been awhile, like your info. ✌️🤘

[@patrickoconnor661]

Awesome interview

[@reallyryan_]

Thanks for the amazing content

[@cliffhoelzer6895]

I think this is great! It may find evidence of civilizations similar to the technological level of Rome but not yet having the technology yet to send radio signals!!

[@MTB214]

Interesting discussion. I always think of possible advanced life as like a person going out to work, while their cat or dog stays home.

[@AndrewBlucher]

I love it when I hear Astronomers, Astronauts, Astrobiologists and the like talking about events in terms of Northern Hemisphere seasons. It's like "I think about BIG things" in a really parochial way.

[@amangogna68]

Great video and information !

[@lukaskywalker7791]

Love you, man

[@jmanj3917]

32:30, Yeah, maybe we just happened to spot them in THEIR "1980s Hair" days.

[@alanheadrick7997]

I wonder if they use lighting similar to us. So say Mercury vapor lighting from the 1950's , also Neon and now LED's. These should show up as weird spectral spikes when looking at the light from the planets? I wonder too if tidally locked planets might set up mirrors either on the ground or in space that also might be visible.

[@shelby3822]

New JMG, new Kosmo New History of the Universe... another new Event Horizon...gonna have to go to bed @ 6pm to get all caught up!

[@eric3434]

Imagine having a box full of marbles, picking the first marble from the box and noticing a crack in the marble. Than thinking "Aha! This marble has a crack in it. So it must be unique and this marble is the only marble with a crack in it." This is the mentality of many that believe life only exists on earth.

[@TuneintoLearning]

Explain away all the events that happens at skin walker ranch. Millions of dollars have been put into research at that ranch, countless man hours from reputable scientists, measurement devices such as magnetometers, infrared cameras, temperature sensors, etc. You also can go there your self, and experience these phenomenons. I would like your thoughts please. Also, the tic tac situation that occurred years ago, as well as many pilots reporting to the faa about oval shaped, and cubed shaped crafts. They have been around us for eons.

[@Est.8.1.86]

ok I've got a question and I feel this is the right place to ask it. So, when we talk about lightyears and the light we see means we see back in time, if we use a telescope to look, do we not see the light earlier than it is expected to reach us? What i mean is, does a telescope not remove some time as we're cheating and see the light earlier therefore something that is 1.5 light years away we now see it at 0.5 light years away??

[@mzindelo]

Does it have the ability to see them "Now" or at all?

[@quantumac]

Can JWST find alien life? At this point, with UAPs and all, I'm leaning toward $97 binoculars instead of a $9.7 BILLION telescope. But that's just me and my refusal to trivially dismiss UAPs until they are properly explained.

[@onebylandtwoifbysearunifby5475]

Yes. Humans have never built something that can go from hover to hypersonic and back to subsonic flight. We don't even have a conceptual idea of how to do that. Yet we have recorded exactly this on multiple systems. Multiple observers. Tracked by radar. Keep looking up.

[@xlostlovex]

I think it is a very clear and logical explanation all e way up till 10 mins but as a person who knows nth at all, not even suggesting after watching thiis, but from young I alrdy think that why not look for the same signature as what we will find on Earth as we look back from our own satellite etc. This is because I learned that we can see the kind of gases thru prism spectrum..so yeah why is this. Thing now and not always? Or am I missing out something? That this guy is the actual guy who suggested what I learn and saw when I was young.. I'm 36 this yr and I probably heard about finding signatures like this when I was 12 or 13

[@bk83082]

The topics you cover are always good, but my favorite episodes are the ones where the guest uses a real microphone. So many of them sound like they have their iPhone on speaker and are yelling from across the room while they do the dishes.

[@alanbrady420]

I literally can’t get enough of this channel thanks for another cool upload John 😁

[@glynndraper437]

It was James lovelock that sorted the CFC problem , also the genius behind Gaia theory

[@garygallegos103]

Like to ask if we can detect ag gas's having to do with good how easy is it to detect other man made elememts , even if the planetary system has gone through a star out gasing . Is it are ability to detect man made elememts ? Please sed info about my statement thank you very much 😀

[@d00mch1ld]

Very interesting thoughts about the Wow! signal. I wonder if we ever looked at what is needed/made that could transmit that signal, or if we sent that same signal back in the direction it came from.

[@yoredeerleader]

I don’t think we should stop just at looking for techno signatures. I think we should look for all forms of electronic dance music

[@S.L.1211]

What’s the outro music for these videos?

[@adamwiseman5831]

I think you're right about Mars!

[@eldy938]

I'm for all kind of sciences, space science as such is important to a set limit, what in practical terms this new telescope will give us as a specie ? The oceans probably holds more practical secrets then open space does. Does zero gravity on our space stations have more value then looking out into infinite space ? Just asking. :)

[@FlyMIfYouGotM]

Sounds like the solution to the Fermi Paradox is .... We don't know what we don't know and we won't know what we don't know until we know what we don't know. Got it!

[@garryjones1847]

An obvious answer to the Fermi Paradox is that no one leaves home! Not even machines!

[@notnek202]

I hope we get wonderful images of the Alpha Centauri group.

[@roadkillanonymous4807]

Yes of course we should! I want to know dang it!

[@glorymanheretosleep]

You know, I am under the impression that it can't find alien life. There's too many variables as to why methane happens, etc. Too many variables. And the mirror is not big enough to image the surface. It won't find life.

[@imstevemcqueen]

Maybe it'll see something besides methane

[@glorymanheretosleep]

@@imstevemcqueen It will have to see much more than just methane or anything else to convince the community that there's alien life on that planet.

[@christopherbaby3842]

Dammit I'm late to the party. John, Something I've been thinking about. I agree with you that likely the microbe universe is right but could you (or have you already?) explore the societal implications if JWST finds the galaxy teeming with biosignatures? Say like .8 habitable planets with biosignatures per star?

[@mikeavery4098]

The civilizations could be building 30 or 40 story buildings on one mile growing their food that way to conserve how much land they have to use to grow food and then just recycle the chemicals and everything indoors without any of it getting to the atmosphere it's actually what I've been proposing for us to do

[@MarkyCannoli]

With scientists, there will always be a debate…….look at the UAP stuff. Some scientists are at least coming around and saying, hey, we really need to start looking at this. While others will ridicule any evidence, no matter how interesting and credible.

[@SugaSharp]

Doesn’t like to give his favorite Fermi paradox solution? Does he realize what show he’s on!

[@MattPSU02]

Another Penn Stater! So awesome to see our university so well represented in these scientific fields.

[@EventHorizonShow]

PSU has a fantastic SETI department.

[@cjustintoekes2285]

I’m waiting for you to see the link between CRISPR and interstellar travel.

[@colonelgraff9198]

We’ll learn a lot about planets. However I doubt we’ll be able to find life.

[@thedoruk6324]

Not unless the telescopes search habitable systems like gliese kepler and trappist

[@nutyyyy]

@@thedoruk6324 'Habitable' Well that's the question isn't it? Are they habitable?

[@slinkerdeer]

@@nutyyyy for our current life, the right distance from the star it orbits, once we know it's there we can search for things inside it's atmosphere to determine if life exists there, or perhaps we might find evidence of fossil fuel usage

[@thedoruk6324]

@@nutyyyy they have several planets that orbit entirely on the goldilocks zone so that would be the most safest bet

[@thedoruk6324]

@@slinkerdeer agreed

[@bernardfox9078]

Of course we should use it to look for life elsewhere. Would be the greatest discovery ever made.

[@sssshhhh7464]

This is my opinion and I believe life exists outside our solar system and possibly ours but what sort of life i have no idea but something im sure we can recognise if we see it.

[@jamesfowley4114]

Would a probe out near Neptune's orbit looking back at Earth give us better ideas about what to look for?

[@LockedInTheZoo]

JMG proving he is the CR7 of the podcast world!

[@Dragrath1]

Regarding replicators random mutations would likely consequently drive replicators to undergo natural selection and evolution it is possible that this may make Von Neumann replicators undesirable as they quickly in terms of the scale of colonizing the galaxy mutate outside their initial design parameters as machine fauna which may undergo evolutionary bottlenecks limiting their ability to disperse to distant star systems when someone tries.

[@mikeharrington5593]

I think JMG has a better, more realistic, handle on this subject than Jacob's woolly chat.

[@alangarland8571]

Gotta love Nitrogen, it makes organic chemistry a thing.

[@timberwolf27]

"oh hey Rog, how did you get so successful in life?" "Well I watched a youtube channel about aliens and masterworks just sung to me "

[@michaelinzo]

We could look at 100 million light years galaxy. Surely we can zoom in to exotic planets and look for sings of life.

[@michaelinzo]

@Smee Self why?

[@mrbamfo5000]

You don't think Mars will eventually be an out post for Asteroid belt miners?

[@Sarconthewolf]

Taby's star should be one of the first stars to look at.

[@__hjg__2123]

I think we are going to see some amazingly beautiful things in incredibly sharp focus with JWST.......and also a whole lot of nothing that indicates life elsewhere..... and we will feel even more alone..

[@AtheistBelgium]

The most annoying thing is the fact we have to speculate about all this stuff. The most interesting thing is the fact that we speculate about all this stuff.

[@nobodysunderdog]

Not only can the JWST find alien life, it Will find alien life. Will it detect an Alien civilization? That's a totally different question.

[@notmadeofpeople4935]

Starts at 2:18

[@gusess5743]

I WANT TO BELIEVE

[@spleefthedude7747]

Where are the pictures!?!?!

[@ninjasquirrels]

Whatever they use it for, hopefully it will solve some of the problems we have here at home.

[@isaacbranch6244]

I'd love to leave Earth and be part of a new civilization

[@Eltezznn]

5:52 Plants can't "fixate nitrogen" from air by themselves, it's their association with nitrogen fixing microorganisms. Plants mineralize (biologist/ambientologist term) nitrogen which is completely different than fixating nitrogen.

[@stephenhurd1489]

Thanks for that. It'll help humanity greatly in growing marijuana on mars. Seriously, do all plants do so or are there different types. Not counting fungus which is really fascinating how the micilea works. Not to mention their ability to break down materials that we need to be rid of. Like nuclear waste

[@JohnVance]

I'm 38, and I don't think I'll get to travel to Mars or maybe even ever into space, but I strongly believe we're going to pick up a convincing technosignature before I die. At least I certainly hope so.

[@aaronm8552]

1984 represent

[@alanheadrick7997]

So I was thinking about what you said before about UAP's being a natural phenomena. If so then we should be able to look at their spectral emissions and see what element/s we see. Kind of like if they are red we might detect they are Neon. I am thinking like earthquake lights, maybe the Marfa lights. Some kind of gas/plasma coming out of the earth.

[@MultiBikerboy1]

A saucer flew over my house in the U.K. one evening in the 70’s…sure didn’t look ‘natural ‘ to me.

[@alanheadrick7997]

@@MultiBikerboy1 I just experienced something odd this past Monday myself. It was a craft of some kind just unable to figure it out. It was dark, the lights didn't flash and it was silent . My original post was related to the swamp gas type glowing orbs things. Check their spectral displays.

[@MultiBikerboy1]

@@alanheadrick7997 thanks for the clarification Alan. I’ve had to live for 50 plus years with the knowledge flying saucers are real. Don’t envy me it’s been a poison chalice.

[@alanheadrick7997]

@@MultiBikerboy1 It really burns into your mind once you figure out what you saw wasn't normal.