Why Are We Alone? Fermi Paradox Solutions With Author Trevor Williams

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Fermi Paradox solutions. Could we be surrounded by intelligent life and not know it? The Zoo Hypothesis is one possible solution to the fermi paradox where we are kept from knowing that aliens exist by alien civilizations that keep us from knowing the truth. Could intelligent life in the universe end up choosing to become machine civilizations? And if so, would they even care to communicate with us, or rather live a blissful life, largely protected from the dangers of space and the universe that we live in.
Why Are We Alone? Is the zoo hypothesis an answer to the fermi paradox.
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@EventHorizonShow
@EventHorizonShow 3 жыл бұрын
What is your favorite Solution to the Fermi Paradox? Do you think we could exist in a zoo? Unaware of what surrounds us? Let John know below. And read Trevor Williams book "Eternal Shadow: Fall of Gods" (affiliate link) amzn.to/3clcCgn
@stricknine6130
@stricknine6130 3 жыл бұрын
I still think it's distance. I believe there is definitely other civilizations out there but I think they may be to far for us to have detected yet.
@kadourimdou43
@kadourimdou43 3 жыл бұрын
I think it’s that it’s not just one step, on Fermi’s equation that’s the issue. It would be that each step needed could be incredible rare. So that each step required, being incredibly unlikely, would mean the probability of there being intelligent life goes down logarithmically. Not up as first suggested.
@Danny-wy6rh
@Danny-wy6rh 3 жыл бұрын
To use the concept of Occam's Razor, often the simplest explanation is the right one, and in my mind, the simplest explanation is that using the combination of time and distance, we simply haven't bumped into any of the other civilizations yet. I'm sure they're out there, but the universe is obviously enormous and it seems a little too easy for civilizations to miss each other in the vastness of space.
@steffenscheibler5849
@steffenscheibler5849 3 жыл бұрын
It makes zero sense for biological life to travel the stars. Radiation, debris, mechanical unreliability over prolonged periods of time,... make it unattractive. Any civilization that is advanced is quite likely to value life and knowledge of it's members and thus will strongly seek to reduce loss. What does make sense is for advanced civilizations to send robots out to harvest materials and knowledge. Equally any biological life coming to Earth would be at extreme risk of death by our bacteria and viruses. Who knows how they might affect them... and their microorganisms us. It would be lunacy to even contemplate flying to a planet you KNOW is inhabited. Lunacy. Total lunacy.
@cryptolicious3738
@cryptolicious3738 3 жыл бұрын
YES, we are unaware of a great many things ( including ETIs ), of this you can be sure!
@andreachiarello9001
@andreachiarello9001 3 жыл бұрын
Me going to sleep as i have to wake at 6 tomorrow. KZbin notification, new event horizon episode. I DON'T NEED SLEEP, I NEED ANSWERS!!!
@gerardbyrne9315
@gerardbyrne9315 3 жыл бұрын
Me going asleep as i also have to go asleep too wake up at six. It's 1 in the morning in Dublin Ireland 🤣
@andreachiarello9001
@andreachiarello9001 3 жыл бұрын
@@GreedRuinsEverything too late, my night is over.
@Afro1Pigeon
@Afro1Pigeon 3 жыл бұрын
I listen to these at work!!! 🤣 so I just leave it till I'm there lol
@channelbree
@channelbree 3 жыл бұрын
I've scoured YT for days, finally something good to watch.
@laverian2251
@laverian2251 3 жыл бұрын
Best podcast in the world
@dynamicdopamine
@dynamicdopamine 3 жыл бұрын
I like insane curiosity too...
@1cyanideghost
@1cyanideghost 3 жыл бұрын
Check out Isaac Arthur and his channel. His conversations and content are incredible. Thank me later 😉
@ryanbarringer9993
@ryanbarringer9993 3 жыл бұрын
Isaac Arthur is great too.
@scottcrawford2610
@scottcrawford2610 3 жыл бұрын
Should be in school lessons instead of religion
@Danny-wy6rh
@Danny-wy6rh 3 жыл бұрын
The music for your channel is the icing on this delicious cake of entertainment 👌
@EventHorizonShow
@EventHorizonShow 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Danny, great to know you like it. Every artist used on Event Horizon is linked in the description.
@TheRoadLessChosen
@TheRoadLessChosen 3 жыл бұрын
I agree
@andrewfrankovic6821
@andrewfrankovic6821 3 жыл бұрын
I hate music meant to toy with my emotions. Decent data shouldn't need iT's soundtrack to be so obvious.
@zeromancer-x
@zeromancer-x 3 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of Sagan's Cosmos
@TheRoadLessChosen
@TheRoadLessChosen 3 жыл бұрын
@@andrewfrankovic6821 you’re in the minority when it comes to music and info. As a classical musician myself I can attest through my own research papers that music is a definite plus for those learning new information.
@zch7491
@zch7491 3 жыл бұрын
You should do a poll on KZbin asking the audience what our favorite solution to the Fermi paradox is
@EventHorizonShow
@EventHorizonShow 3 жыл бұрын
Great idea. Will do.
@zeromancer-x
@zeromancer-x 3 жыл бұрын
So a poll with potentially 100+ responses? 🤨
@Dcolin757
@Dcolin757 3 жыл бұрын
@@EventHorizonShow I agree that would be awesome 😎
@dr.williamkallfelz8540
@dr.williamkallfelz8540 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent interview! A few questions and comments: A) Conceivably, technology could miniaturize down to the Planck scale (10^-35 m), the absolute floor to the causal (and fundamentally discrete) topology of space-time-matter-energy. Consider by comparison the quark scale is ~10^-19m. B.) On a planetary surface that's opaque, I could easily conceive of an intelligent species that could detect what's beyond their atmosphere. They could develop all sorts of sensory organs perceiving different wavelengths of the EM spectrum. Seems a bit tendentious to assume that what is opaque to visible light based on the particular width of our pupils which have evolved according our particular Sun's peak luminosity curve would be shared by other ET species. The visible bandwidth to the human eye It's quite narrow indeed and many Earth species can detect beyond that-- whether in the infrared or the UV. C.) Myself, l question the very premises of the Fermi Paradox. Our 21st century civilization, at a Kardeshev Scale estimate ~0.3-0.7 (logarithmic, mind you) is at an embryonic stage when it comes to systematically scouring the visible universe for ETI. D.) Utilizing Prof. David Kipping's Bayesian lifetime estimate arguments, Kipping (see his Cool Worlds channel) makes a convincing case that the preponderance of ETI civilizations capable of detecting ours are far more advanced--Kardashev Scale 1 (capable of transcending their biology), 2 (capable of Dyson sphere technology), 3 (capable of engineering on a galactic scale), or higher. E.) There's no reason to think that our puny efforts in the hopes of detecting them (like searching for radio technosignatures as in the case of the SETI program) are even close to the appropriate methodological sophistication required, let alone within the proper empirical range. In short, the Universe is probably overwhelmingly teeming with extraordinarily intelligent life screaming at us from all directions, but the blind ambling quasi primates that we are (in geological time scales we only mastered fire technology a few minutes ago) are utterly impervious thereof and express wonderment at the presumed "silence" of the Universe. F.)But consider the hubris of that supposition: imagine by analogy a stone age tribe that tries to make contact with us and expresses bafflement that we don't respond with their communication technology (i.e., smoke signals etc.) Thereupon they conclude that those city lights they see and the aircraft that fly overhead are just natural or anomalous phenomena.
@TVaz7777
@TVaz7777 3 жыл бұрын
A lot of good points here. But I do think that Fermi Paradox is an incomplete equation because there are many other variants that the equation just ignore. I do think that high intelligent life able to develop technology is a way too rare. Look at Neanderthals. They lived for about 400ty, they had almost the same physiology as ours and many studies say they had culture and language. But they never left the stoneage. Why? Therefore, to reach what we have reached requires so many things and luck that we might be one of the first technological civilizations in the entire observable universe.
@dr.williamkallfelz8540
@dr.williamkallfelz8540 3 жыл бұрын
@@TVaz7777 A few quick responses: 1.) Statistically, it's in the realm of logical possibility that ours might be, as you mention, the only technological civilization in the visible Universe (approx. in an 18 billion LY radius). There are good reasons, however, to argue that that likelihood is vanishingly small (i.e., it's logically possible, but naturally highly improbable): 1.A) There's a version of "the prosecutor's fallacy" or PF (i.e., confusing or equivocating P(E|I) with P(l | E), the conditional probabilities of evidence, given presumed innocence, with that of innocence, given the evidence, ceteris paribus) one must guard against, in these: "We may be the only intelligent civilization game in town" considerations. In short: Lack of evidence does NOT imply evidence of lack. 1.B) How does the PF creep up into some of these methodological assumptions? One of the most intriguing aspects of the question for detecting ETI technosignatures has to do with its overlap with archeology and anthropology: See, for instance, the Event Horizon July 16, 2020 episode, where John Michael Godier interviews Prof. Jason Wright, in which they embark on the question of detecting past technosignatures on the Earth and solar system, in geological deep time scales. How do we know whether or not dinosaurs used cell phones? The Silurian hypothesis is one which entertains the question of whether advanced civilizations evolved in the distant (or even recent) geological past on Earth, of ETI origins. But (mutatis mutandis) you could extend that question past a panspermia hypothesis and ask if Earth-bound organisms achieved technological heights we simply have not detected yet? (And maybe cannot detect at all--plate tectonics and the biosphere and a variable climate do a wonderful job of erasing technosignatures in vanishingly small time scales). 1.C) So, for instance, (in relation to 1.B) paleoanthropology is really scratching at a tiny surface when it comes to the Homo Erectus fossil record--we really at this point cannot assess what heights the Neanderthal may have reached--let alone let's not forget that from a standpoint of epigenetics they never really went "extinct," right? Neanderthal DNA is alive and well among many ethnic strains of Cro Magnon human DNA. 2.) So l bring up the PF as a cautionary point concerning epistemic and methodological humility: Again l repeat, our clumsy methods of detecting ETI technosignatures are really in their embryonic stage. And when you consider where we rank on the Kardashev scale, again, we're a species that has only mastered fire technology "a few minutes ago" in geological time scales. In general, from the standpoint of the history of science, anthropocentric uniqueness arguments don't fare so well. For centuries scientists argued that "only humans" possess tool-making technology, language generation, concepts of death and the afterlife, rational negotiation capabilities in building up a "social contract" in terms of trade-offs of needs and wants, etc. Modern- day primatology and macrobiology has put us in our place: We aren't the only intelligent proto-technological pro-social species on the planet, when we examine similar mammilial species of kindred genotype (or even more broadly avian species, etc.) 3.) Now of course, one must qualify and emphasize (regarding 2.) above) the difference between an intelligent pro-social species versus one capable of evolving into a technological civilization. The latter is obviously a special case of the former and statistically maybe relatively rare. Although HOW rare, well that all depends on the methodological capabilities and the empirical ranges by which we can detect techno signatures in principle and in practice. And again, we have just begun in that endeavor. 4.) To take a scientifically conservative position, of course, one must guard against an "either/or" and "all or nothing" fallacy: l am not suggesting that the visible Universe "must" be chock full of Kardashev Scale 1 (and greater) ETIs everywhere you look just because we haven't detected anything yet. (Though from the Drake equation, I wouldn't be surprised the Universe is teeming with them, even if technological ETI civilizations are relatively rare in their own local statistical sample spaces). I am aware of the Cosmic Filter arguments, for example, which suggest that natural factors (e.g., supernovae, etc.) and species-generated factors (e.g., civilizations destroying themselves by evolving unsustainably and/or warfare, and for a host of other reasons). 5.) On the other hand, from a Bayesian standpoint, as a betting strategy, l believe it's a better incentive for us to assume the alternative hypothesis (H1, i.e., that the visible Universe is teeming with techno signatures we haven't been able to detect yet either in principle or in practice) than the null hypothesis (H0, there "aren't any" intelligent ETI technological civilizations out there.) Scientific progress has often been incentivized by courageously speculating and challenging retrenched positions: This is not just a moral or a sociological point I'm making, it rests at the very heart of the scientific method itself: "lmagination is more important than knowledge" (Albert Einstein) sometimes. And adopting a more risk-prone speculative position also enables us to be more sensitized toward anomalies that we can investigate, rather than just ignore them or brush them aside or explain them away in defense of the null hypothesis. (Imre Lakatos, for example, mentions this "belt" of auxiliary assumptions are often what insulate scientific research programmes against real discovery and innovation.)
@jodie82
@jodie82 3 жыл бұрын
Yay! fermi paradox episodes are my absolute favourite 🤩
@EventHorizonShow
@EventHorizonShow 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to know that.
@nikoladlaka7412
@nikoladlaka7412 3 жыл бұрын
Mine too
@Davey-Boyd
@Davey-Boyd 3 жыл бұрын
And mine
@PrincipalSkinner3190
@PrincipalSkinner3190 3 жыл бұрын
Nothing hits the spot quite like another Fermi Paradox discussion 😊
@jonnyroxx7172
@jonnyroxx7172 3 жыл бұрын
A heartfelt thank you, JMG for transporting me to distant worlds. Another difficult day wrested with your help.
@JohnAlanWoods
@JohnAlanWoods 3 жыл бұрын
JMG is in my view one of the top 5 greatest content creators on the internet.
@blakeb9964
@blakeb9964 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely!
@godless-clump-of-cells
@godless-clump-of-cells 3 жыл бұрын
I fear that our confidence in how we define extraterrestrial techno-signatures has exceeded our ability to actually detect them.
@TheObliviousStormtrooper
@TheObliviousStormtrooper 3 жыл бұрын
My heart skips a beat when I see a new interview
@HueghMungus
@HueghMungus 3 жыл бұрын
Same, I wish I could turn back time when I had still more videos to watch from JMG/Event Horizon, now I have caught up and have to wait after each video.
@leonelmateus
@leonelmateus 3 жыл бұрын
I clear my calendar and make a tea..
@Arashnotekno
@Arashnotekno 3 жыл бұрын
I've recommended this channel to so many of my friends.
@EventHorizonShow
@EventHorizonShow 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Very much appreciated.
@stricknine6130
@stricknine6130 3 жыл бұрын
Fun interview I'm going to pick up his book. Thanks for the episode.
@EventHorizonShow
@EventHorizonShow 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Strick! Glad you enjoyed it.
@guybrushthreepwood6371
@guybrushthreepwood6371 3 жыл бұрын
Real cream of YT right now
@kevink1575
@kevink1575 3 жыл бұрын
I'm becoming increasingly convinced that this is the case. We can't see them because we're on the inside of a cage, blinded by the half-silvered mirror.
@7Earthsky
@7Earthsky 3 жыл бұрын
It's a lazy hypothesis.
@willfitz100
@willfitz100 3 жыл бұрын
@@7Earthsky Agreed & very fantastical
@alfredogonzalez8735
@alfredogonzalez8735 3 жыл бұрын
@@7Earthsky does yours require hard work?
@sarcasmo57
@sarcasmo57 3 жыл бұрын
My favourite- Other intelligent life is simple outside the parameters of our simulation.
@gkelly34
@gkelly34 3 жыл бұрын
Speculative science is my favourite type of science. I could listen to him all day long. His book will do 👍
@nomadicmedicprincess7209
@nomadicmedicprincess7209 3 жыл бұрын
The only thing on utube that I hit like before I watch.b safe.
@youtubeisajoke2546
@youtubeisajoke2546 3 жыл бұрын
When you fall into the event horizon and just chill there for a bit
@robdee81
@robdee81 3 жыл бұрын
Once you fall into the event horizon you can NEVER leave
@youtubeisajoke2546
@youtubeisajoke2546 3 жыл бұрын
@@robdee81 still cant
@reallyryan_
@reallyryan_ 3 жыл бұрын
Thursday's are awesome because Event Horizon and Issac Arthur upload! have a great weekend everyone :)
@warehouselead
@warehouselead 3 жыл бұрын
Thursday is when my work week starts, and it makes it such a smooth transition into work mode knowing I will have JMG and IA to listen to!
@reallyryan_
@reallyryan_ 3 жыл бұрын
@@warehouselead awesome! 👍
@leonb.670
@leonb.670 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for mentioning Issac!!! Didn’t know he existed
@warehouselead
@warehouselead 3 жыл бұрын
@@leonb.670 You might also like Cool Worlds. If you have not seen them already.
@reallyryan_
@reallyryan_ 3 жыл бұрын
@@warehouselead ah yes another awesome channel!
@junjiito337
@junjiito337 3 жыл бұрын
Always a highlight of my days when I see a new video from one my favorite channels, you and Isaac Arthur
@sachinisthegod2824
@sachinisthegod2824 3 жыл бұрын
What a delightful interview. I love how you dive right in... no time to waste!
@johannespilvikukka6003
@johannespilvikukka6003 3 жыл бұрын
My timezone just turned to Friday and a new event horizon comes out at the same time. Life is good.
@netx421
@netx421 3 жыл бұрын
I know what I'm doing tonight. Going to bed early and listening to this during my mass nap 💪😴
@DeeDeeCHAUNCEY
@DeeDeeCHAUNCEY 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@blakeb9964
@blakeb9964 3 жыл бұрын
Mass nap lol
@PhantomBoomer
@PhantomBoomer 3 жыл бұрын
JMG has such a mellow voice, I sometimes doze when I don't really want to.
@bgrowsmars3918
@bgrowsmars3918 3 жыл бұрын
I think we live in a mostly microbial universe but my favorite is we are in a universe full of intelligent life but just aren’t smart enough to find it yet
@lovefool8767
@lovefool8767 3 жыл бұрын
*rubs my tiny hands together* the best thing ever to listen to before bed, I would say to fall asleep to, but impossible in my case. You are amazing :3
@nikoladlaka7412
@nikoladlaka7412 3 жыл бұрын
Sure is❤️
@doctorcrankyflaps1724
@doctorcrankyflaps1724 3 жыл бұрын
I honestly believe we live in a zoo. I'm a unique snowflake within that zoo. Three turtles keep all the animals energized.
@nikoladlaka7412
@nikoladlaka7412 3 жыл бұрын
I needed to pause the video while I wrote this comment. Just not to miss anything. Absolutely amazing channel, love the Fermi paradox series❤️
@maxhofmann6993
@maxhofmann6993 3 жыл бұрын
I live in South Africa and its 23 :09 here, John is the reason get up late for work everyday
@Vix2066
@Vix2066 3 жыл бұрын
I really really like John's 'space might be traumatizing' answer/theory😂 Personally I think it's the 'too far away from everything born at the wrong time so we might be one of the first of THIS time/alot of intelligent life will be like us and have self destructive tendencies' idea. It would be awesome to be able to lift up any other species we find in the future though. I feel like we'll find SOMETHING soon. It's a matter of time😊💚💙
@michaelhoffmann2891
@michaelhoffmann2891 3 жыл бұрын
"use very little energy"... Potato GlaDOS says hi!
@vyguardelite7874
@vyguardelite7874 3 жыл бұрын
Every time I hear the intro I just need to explore something, it usually ends up being my refrigerator. Always an amazing day when these come out, thanks so much!
@qwok
@qwok 3 жыл бұрын
This is the 'long one' I was waiting for! In my opinion, I don't think theres a cap to technological advances. At least untill we become a tier 3.
@napoleano2748
@napoleano2748 3 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly because at one point AI will take over and advance us even further, humans won't really be playing a role anymore.
@qwok
@qwok 3 жыл бұрын
@@napoleano2748 yeah, AI is going to need a little touch of human creativity to produce the best stuff (as we know it)
@LearnWithBahman
@LearnWithBahman 3 жыл бұрын
Never get tired of fermi paradox 😎
@eukrazia
@eukrazia 3 жыл бұрын
it's funny... ascent by stellardrone has become a song that let's me sleep so easily! it always plays at the end of these videos so my brain knows it's ok to fall asleep when it comes on! ive been listening to your videos nightly for years now so my body is conditioned to sleep to that song! it's crazy ^^ amazing content, john! thank you for giving me such comfort and inspiration! i love being able to learn every night before sleeping c: ❤️
@zapfanzapfan
@zapfanzapfan 3 жыл бұрын
I like the Zoo-hypothesis. Maybe we are all their reality-show. "Tune in tonight to see what the stupid humans did today!" :-)
@zapfanzapfan
@zapfanzapfan 3 жыл бұрын
@John Barber There was a good episode of The Orville on sort of that subject.
@fungi42021
@fungi42021 3 жыл бұрын
Just trying to look for some videos on this topic and then couldn't find anything that I haven't watched already and then you post this. very cool!!
@JohnPritzlaff
@JohnPritzlaff 3 жыл бұрын
This is right up there with the very best channels on KZbin.
@Rkenton48
@Rkenton48 3 жыл бұрын
Space is traumatizing. Once we proved that the moon was NOT made of Gorgonzola Cheese, we never went back.
@verntigo
@verntigo 3 жыл бұрын
My favorite Femi Paradox solution is “interdiction”. That's, basically, the Prime Directive Lite; non-interference enforced through formal or informal treaties. Why would they do it? Maybe the same environmentalism that keeps them from doing big celestial engineering that we could see. That said, you gotta wonder about partially detached binaries...
@kevink1575
@kevink1575 3 жыл бұрын
Which is why they take such a keen interest in anything we do that involves nuclear power.
@garyr3179
@garyr3179 3 жыл бұрын
Finally a long episode! I was hooked the entire time!
@jimmyolsen3774
@jimmyolsen3774 3 жыл бұрын
Your channel and videos are a pure treat and very informative. I always have a huge smile across my face when I see a new video/interview posted to enjoy.
@G274Me
@G274Me 3 жыл бұрын
See if you can get Penrose. His cycle universe is fascinating. Maybe he’s getting too old for interviews
@EventHorizonShow
@EventHorizonShow 3 жыл бұрын
Working on it.
@bozo5632
@bozo5632 3 жыл бұрын
One problem with the zoo hypothesis is that zookeepers don't hide the cages from the lions. Imagine building a city very carefully (and expensively) so that the wildlife never noticed the roads, the smog, the traffic sounds. For the good of the rodents?
@EventHorizonShow
@EventHorizonShow 3 жыл бұрын
Very good point.
@memomorph5375
@memomorph5375 3 жыл бұрын
There’s a phenomenon where ostriches will start doing a mating display for their human handlers. Maybe our alien zookeepers are trying to make sure our efforts stay on target!
@Slash687
@Slash687 3 жыл бұрын
Displaying what?
@darrin173
@darrin173 3 жыл бұрын
I love your vids!!🥰....I always look forward to Thursday, just to watch a new event horizon..😊
@EventHorizonShow
@EventHorizonShow 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome Darrin, thank you.
@csdn4483
@csdn4483 3 жыл бұрын
We're already close to the limit for silicon based semi-conductors. The rough limit right now is 600 atoms per transistor. Atoms are between 0.1 and 0.2 nm in diameter depending on the atom in question. Doing quick match, you're looking at transistor that is roughly 1 to 2 nm in width and depth and up to 6 nm in length. Right now, when someone talks about an 8 nm process or a 10 nm process when discussion silicon based transistors, they're talking about the width of the transistor. So you can see we're getting close now (likely within the next decade or two will hit the silicon transistor limit). At that point, we need to move to something like light gate transistors where instead of using electrical charge you use light instead.
@karlingram5498
@karlingram5498 3 жыл бұрын
Thank-you, it's rather a challenging time for my head and I and something decent to listen to and get me out of my head as well as something else to think about...thanks
@EventHorizonShow
@EventHorizonShow 3 жыл бұрын
Hope it helps.
@johnfyten3392
@johnfyten3392 3 жыл бұрын
Epic....absolutely epic.
@MultiKm1
@MultiKm1 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe they're afraid of us. We're very emotional and violent. They'd be doomed to say something that sets at least some of us off, and then we'd attack.
@memomorph5375
@memomorph5375 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting! What if they were on such a different time scale that they just haven’t noticed us? Like we developed over the course of a long weekend...
@Btotts
@Btotts 3 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed Trevor. He's definitely one of your best guests!
@jimmyshrimbe9361
@jimmyshrimbe9361 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing stuff! Thanks, John!
@leonelmateus
@leonelmateus 3 жыл бұрын
..the scariest Fermi Paradox option is always the one that we are incapable of imagining or have yet to conceptualize...
@kylorenkardashian79
@kylorenkardashian79 3 жыл бұрын
I love your content JMG, this is my bedtime story tonight ❤️
@mercedesmarton3768
@mercedesmarton3768 3 жыл бұрын
The opening looks amazing, well done.
@disprogreavette8545
@disprogreavette8545 3 жыл бұрын
Another great guest, thanks for these.
@davidbailey453
@davidbailey453 3 жыл бұрын
P.s. this is my favourite youtube channel and I look forward to Thursdays and Event Horizon. 😎
@realcatfilms
@realcatfilms 2 жыл бұрын
The thought experiments about totally clouded planets and planets without night-time, and how that might shape any civilizations view of what was or was not beyond itself are fantastic. I need to read more Azimov. Thanks for this channel.
@gagarinone
@gagarinone 2 жыл бұрын
Feel free to watch / listen when Asimov debates with religious fanatics on KZbin. They are very funny. In class with Frank Zappa's debates.
@onlocationkat
@onlocationkat 3 жыл бұрын
Nightfall planet was the basis for the graphic novels of Riddick and the Chronicles of Riddick and the Pitcch Black films, as it was based on a 1940s story first.
@blakeb9964
@blakeb9964 3 жыл бұрын
One of my favorites things to think about is there could be a ton of civilizations in really distant galaxies that we have no hope of ever meeting or even detecting. Entire worlds, people's, solar systems. Perhaps some far off galaxy is fully colonized but we will never know. It's mind boggling but amazing.
@ohroonoko
@ohroonoko 2 жыл бұрын
There could be hundreds of millions of alien civilizations across billions of galaxies that exist right now, concurrently with our own civilization. That’s not even counting billions of alien civilizations that have already come and gone into and out of existence, and the billions that will come and go in the future. And we will NEVER be able to interact with any of them or have any clue of their existence. However, I imagine that there are many alien civilizations out there that are close enough to each other that they do communicate with each other if not contact each other. I just think that’s extremely rare, like Super Lotto odds rare. There are probably solar systems where intelligent life developed independently on 2 or more planets within the same solar system. Lucky them. The universe is infinite, all combinations are possible but again those odds of 2 alien civilizations ever being able to communicate or even “hear” is unsurprisingly astronomical.
@Mewsfinder
@Mewsfinder 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the Video, They inspire 👍
@napoleano2748
@napoleano2748 3 жыл бұрын
I think if we find aliens or if they find us, chances are really high that they are Way more advanced than we are. We are late players in this humongous universe..
@williamprevost6982
@williamprevost6982 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, and violence is a premitive behavior. At this point, most civilisation must be peaceful but they are also carefull. If we are new they must have the knowledge that we might be dangerous as a dog could be to his master under fear.
@matthewdavies2057
@matthewdavies2057 3 жыл бұрын
Williams is a fun guest. Hope we hear more of him.
@amangogna68
@amangogna68 3 жыл бұрын
Great information !
@brunov958
@brunov958 3 жыл бұрын
Just got my phone thinking about listen to something on Event Horizon and then saw this brand new episode posted 3 minutes ago. Joy!
@EventHorizonShow
@EventHorizonShow 3 жыл бұрын
Good timing Bruno!
@unkwnuser01
@unkwnuser01 3 жыл бұрын
I love this show.
@pottierkurt1702
@pottierkurt1702 3 жыл бұрын
It's basically like a grain of sand in Australia looking for a grain of sand in the Arizona desert. They're never gonna find each other.
@nahCmeR
@nahCmeR 3 жыл бұрын
Watching this coming off a pretty big mushroom trip seeing these amazingly beautiful visuals and listening to such amazing content.. ahh perfect.
@blaster-zy7xx
@blaster-zy7xx 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with John. The most probable answer to the Fermi paradox is the great vastness of space and time along with the rarity of intellegence and technology. I also agree that we will find simple life common, but complex life very rare and we may never encounter another technological civilization, even though they may exist far away or at different times.
@eduardolima6191
@eduardolima6191 3 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love your channel and your work is fantastic . All these interviews with many experts are amazing to listen . But you are starting to put too many ads . Anyways, thank you .
@stevencoardvenice
@stevencoardvenice 3 жыл бұрын
This blunt's for me, John
@memomorph5375
@memomorph5375 3 жыл бұрын
Rip a pipe enter the event horizon lol
@stevensavage7442
@stevensavage7442 27 күн бұрын
Great show as usual.
@BRUXXUS
@BRUXXUS 3 жыл бұрын
Silicon is element 14, silicone is the rubbery stuff. That's a really easy one to mix up. :)
@Sancsentity
@Sancsentity 3 жыл бұрын
Great answer to the last question!
@DAZE192
@DAZE192 3 жыл бұрын
really good episode
@StevenWilliams66
@StevenWilliams66 Жыл бұрын
imagine your on a grain of sand on the beach in California and the next closest life form is on a grain of sand in New York. That's the kind of distance and scale were dealing with.
@laverian2251
@laverian2251 3 жыл бұрын
I just got off work, great timing!
@EventHorizonShow
@EventHorizonShow 3 жыл бұрын
Perfect way to relax.
@skyesworld6160
@skyesworld6160 3 жыл бұрын
Something about fermi para that just draws me in to a video
@MichaTheLight
@MichaTheLight 3 жыл бұрын
This episode contains many thoughts I had myself that is great. Especially the argument that we are to primitive to less developt on a social and spiritual way.
@Darth69906
@Darth69906 3 жыл бұрын
Fermi paradox, I agree, we have been incredibly lucky, ten percent chance times ten percent chance only a dozen times makes us the only sentient life in the universe
@nicosmind3
@nicosmind3 3 жыл бұрын
Question: How did i fall in here? Im walking along and next thing i know ive tripped, and all of a sudden ive fallen into the Event Horizon
@brettonwoodsvsbtc1217
@brettonwoodsvsbtc1217 3 жыл бұрын
Love ur channel
@Ian_Paq
@Ian_Paq 3 жыл бұрын
Really put everything in perspective... 👍 The first time you really admit to yourself alien existence is very overwhelming!
@emixmim
@emixmim 3 жыл бұрын
Lovely chat! Would love if you did another interview.
@FillipJPhry
@FillipJPhry Жыл бұрын
JMG you're the man.
@christiancook3118
@christiancook3118 Жыл бұрын
The show "The Orville" is a bit cheesy, and you may not be a Seth Mcfarland fan, but theres pretty much an episode for every option you discussed for the Fermi Paradox. They explored MANY of these scenarios in the show, all just under fictional space exploration. They encounter various forms of life all at different points of evolution and options for possibilities.
@EventHorizonShow
@EventHorizonShow Жыл бұрын
Great show.
@ClownWorldSurvivor
@ClownWorldSurvivor 3 жыл бұрын
My favourite solution to the Fermi paradox would be we are being deliberately segregated/avoided because we are such a violent species.
@johnbastien3872
@johnbastien3872 3 жыл бұрын
Well, the way people act this place is a zoo.
@Dsinkz
@Dsinkz 3 жыл бұрын
More like a prison
@carlg5086
@carlg5086 3 жыл бұрын
Are we alone??
@memomorph5375
@memomorph5375 3 жыл бұрын
Aliens believe in you!
@rogerwehbe182
@rogerwehbe182 3 жыл бұрын
I love these videos
@carltonlittle2613
@carltonlittle2613 2 жыл бұрын
There has to be an ultimate peak to technology, just like there was a start. Both sides of the equation. I think the more it advances the rarer it would become.
@michaelfried3123
@michaelfried3123 3 жыл бұрын
Intelligent life off our planet? I'd be just as happy to find intelligent life on our planet...
@ZBGregory
@ZBGregory 3 жыл бұрын
You have to realize there are a lot of variables that the Fermi paradox didn't take into consideration, the biggest being our limitations of perspective, intelligence and being human. There's a lot of possibilities we can't understand or comprehend. And our location in the Milky Way and technology limit what we can observe from our vantage point. Humans have a couple advantages that help us, like opposable thumbs and an ability to adapt, but we can't rule out the possibility that other species we don't know about could have more advantages that would help them advance much faster than we could. We also have a lot of disadvantages that keep us from progressing, our necessity for water, gravity and nutrients. As well as, no immunity to the effects of radiation and time. Not to mention societal constraints that oppose the idea of space travel or the existence of other beings than ourselves.
@devikakaul1494
@devikakaul1494 3 жыл бұрын
This Fermi paradox was first expressed by H.G.Wells in War of the Worlds. The idea is to help us look at a world or universe from a perspective that unfortunately reflects our self worth rather than any real opinion of aliens. Our self worth needs to be honestly reckoned. We are drops in the ocean but we make the ocean. H.G.Wells never underestimated life on earth. I agree with him.
@bishopambrose111
@bishopambrose111 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure this has been offered as a solution to the Fermi paradox but I have thought about the restlessness of the human ego. The history of man is the history of exploration and expansion, not just in the search for resources but just our natural inclination to know "what's on the other side of that mountain." People today are just as interested in knowing what is beyond from our own neighborhood to the cosmos. Here is the solution to the paradox: what if an alien civilization is satisfied with their existence, without having the need to know what is beyond, they are satisfied with their level of existence? This idea of advancement is a human construction driven by the ego and it's lack of satisfaction with what we have. Our brains are not satisfied with what we have, perhaps aliens are satisfied with what they have.
@buckaroo3589
@buckaroo3589 6 ай бұрын
I would include the "beekeeper hypothesis". Wherein aliens love gold (instead of honey), so instill in us a love for gold and then set us about mining and storing all the gold in centralized vaults so they can come in some day and steal it all.
@markmcdougal1199
@markmcdougal1199 3 жыл бұрын
Don't think we can shed our biological selves until we have some way of measuring: "Ho do I feel, now that I'm digitised? Is the same as cascades of billions of neural connections in an analog brain?" Until you can do that, I'm hanging on to my biological self.
@rattleheadx
@rattleheadx 3 жыл бұрын
Video Topic Suggestion: I'd love to see you do a video on the Drake Equation with you breaking down each variable, and filling in what variables can be filled in based on the current, up-to-date understanding of the universe. Maybe a few different versions of it, depending on various possible values for the variables. Been a while since I've seen someone try to work the Drake Equation even just spitballing and estimating.
@marqessanzcora4089
@marqessanzcora4089 3 жыл бұрын
Couldn't wait..
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