Can the Red Wall trust Labour? Paul Embery on Brexit, immigration & the working class | SpectatorTV

[@richardwillford2418]

"Is Brexit safe with Keir Starmer?" You'll be lucky if your gender is safe with Keir Starmer!

[@davidwylde8426]

Paul Embery Always worth listening to 👍🏻

[@sjaakmcd1804]

God save us from Sir Keir Stalin

[@martinmurphy9679]

Isn't it Nige that's in bed with Vlad?

[@UnionJack-k7x]

Tell me one thing that makes him a communist

[@georgesdelatour]

And his Rosa Klebb, Rachel Reeves.

[@jasonuren3479]

Is Brexit safe with Starmer? Well as someone who prefers Davos over Westminster, I'd say nothing about this country is safe with him.

[@neilrobson3064]

Those who don’t know what to believe - believe anything…..

[@davidlythgoe4079]

​@@neilrobson3064I believe he is a fabian socialist and a Marxist. Who is devout and wants equality of outcome. All of what I say is fact .

[@markemarkatfb]

@@neilrobson3064 where did that pearl of wisdom come from? Is keeping an open mind a bad thing now? Not everything in life is a sport, you don’t have to pick a team and stick with it. You’re allowed to be unsure about an issue or to change your mind, that’s called thinking for yourself. I’d take thinking over believing any day.

[@rogernorman2621]

Would not trust Harmer Starmer further than I can throw him!

[@markhutton6055]

Trust a man who when asked "Davos or Westminster?" answered "Davos" without hesitation.

[@markemarkatfb]

If it was a question about skiing holiday destinations, he's making a fair point. What exactly was the question?

[@mycatspethooman5590]

​@@markemarkatfbhe was asked by Emily Mathis Westminster or Davos he chose the latter regarding the economy

[@markemarkatfb]

@@mycatspethooman5590 Oh you mean the quick fire round on The News Agents podcast? I just rewatched that. Neither of them mentioned the economy in the question or answer. Maybe your memory is playing tricks? The full video is still up on KZbin.

[@roycampbell5605]

I don't trust starmer at all.

[@williamvorkosigan5151]

Labour wants policies that will destroy our country fast but the alternative of roughly the same policies to destroy our country more slowly from the so called Conservative Party is not a survival option either. A Blairite Conservative Party has to go. If it costs us 5 years of Labour, I am OK with that.

[@yossarian_lives]

Well said. A good characterisation of the choices facing the UK electorate. I hope and pray enough people (both ex-Tories and old school patriotic Labour) have the courage to vote Reform.

[@UtubeRwokeLefties]

Nothing is safe with Labour.

[@westcoast747]

Not even your kids!

[@hezkyden]

Woke politics is safe; the indoctrination of English children into all things LGBTQ+ is safe.

[@stephfoxwell4620]

The whole not having the Tories is safe

[@UnionJack-k7x]

Nothings safe with the Tories

[@UtubeRwokeLefties]

@@UnionJack-k7x Because they didn’t reverse the mess Blair made. Oh and putting a loony like Boris in charge made matters worse.

[@soutteruk1]

Is Brexit safe with any politician? In a word: no!

[@fiddlecastro1453]

No. Is the answer. He was talking about ''co-operation with europe'' in 2017. Which basically means de-facto following the undemocratic EU's lead on whatever issue you care to think of.

[@rogerphelps9939]

The EU is far more democratic than Westminster ever is.

[@fiddlecastro1453]

@@rogerphelps9939 Why would I be in favour of 2 undemocratic institutes just because I don't like Westminster? Lol absurd.

[@markemarkatfb]

@@fiddlecastro1453 Help me out, I'm a bit slow on the uptake here. Are you saying we'd be better off not co-operating on anything with any other country, or just the EU ones? Which countries should we co-operate with and which institutes (institutions?) would you point to as being the best examples of democracy in action?

[@fiddlecastro1453]

​@@markemarkatfb Britain voted to leave the undemocratic EU. Why unelected people in Brussels should be dictating to us how we govern our country after a majority voted out of such an arrangement is certainly beyond me. Happy to help.

[@markemarkatfb]

@@fiddlecastro1453 Sorry, I'm still not seeing it. I'm sure it's me being slow. So what's the best example of something the EU forced us to do that we no longer have to do since Brexit? Or what have we done since Brexit that we couldn't have done before? Thanks for your patience, I'm hoping the penny will drop after some clear examples.

[@lonewanderer3456]

People seem to have forgotten the state of the country pre-Thatcher when Labour failed the country, and do people not realise that New Labour set us on the downward spiral of anti-British elites, multiculturalism, economic stagnation, immigration numbers rocketing? Voting Labour again and expecting a different result, is the definition of Madness. We need to vote Reform and give both Tories and Labour a kick in the balls for the policies of the last 30 years that they jointly inflicted on us.

[@sysasst670]

Well said

[@scotland638]

Voting Reform is a definition of madness. 😅

[@sysasst670]

@@scotland638 Madness = voting 1/ Greens 2/ Labour or Libdems 🤣

[@scotland638]

@@sysasst670 I agree, SNP 👍 😊

[@markemarkatfb]

@@scotland638 I think voting for Reform is more a combination of despair and wishful thinking, but I suppose at some point wishful thinking can start to look a lot like madness. Believing that wealthy public-school educated business men like Farage and Tice are planning to stick it to the elites because they care about the downtrodden common man is the kind of wishful thinking that can only come from a self-destructive amount of despair.

[@fredo1070]

Starmer voted for the Surrender Act that said the EU was in control of Britain's destiny, not the Government. His loyalties are to Ursula von der Leyen not to the British people. He is also on record saying he prefers working with the World Economic Forum rather than Parliament. For an elected MP this is disgraceful, when your loyalties are to Klaus Schwab not his constituents. Having said that Sir Keir would make the perfect Globalist Prime Minister.

[@FEiSTYFEVER]

Ursula von der Leyen was educated at the LSE. Starmer is a Fabian and they control the LSE. Just saying.

[@rogerphelps9939]

Rubbish.

[@fredo1070]

@@rogerphelps9939 Still watching the BBC and reading the Guardian? Every point I have made is correct.

[@maxwild1212]

Do you think the EU is opposed to the interests of the British people, then?

[@markemarkatfb]

@@fredo1070 If you want to convince others of the validity of your information then why not share your sources rather than unhelpfully just telling us where not to look?

[@satorsatori8793]

hello Spectator tv! I miss the 60 minutes broadcast. how come I no longer see it??? thanks. I enjoy our programs.

[@leeeeee286]

Vote Reform 🇬🇧👍

[@scotland638]

Vote Reform, get Labour 👍 😊

[@markemarkatfb]

@@scotland638 We will get Labour but it would be fun if Reform did get an MP and then Starmer put that MP in charge of stopping the illegal boats. Just for the look on Farage and Tice when to everyone’s shock France doesn’t allow us just to cruise up to their ports and deposit asylum seekers back. Maybe I’m wrong and those two aren’t chancers and clowns, that would let them prove it.

[@peterdockerty8077]

Paul you and I know that if Labour sign up to say a deal on chemicals for example it would mean we have to sign up to EU laws on chemicals and anything else. Which means we are now under their control again. Madness and stupidity

[@jasonuren3479]

'again' 🤔

[@rogerphelps9939]

It never was their control. It was shared conttrol for he mutual benefit of all. It is you who are mad and stupid. The undoing of this ill conceived, harmful and stupid Brexit will start with Labour and will be unstoppable. The Brexiteers may have won a battle but are well on the way to losing the war.

[@markemarkatfb]

Good point, the most important thing in this election is being able to sign up to laws on chemicals which EU nations wouldn't want to sign up to. How dare they stop us polluting our rivers, we have freedom from their oppression now.

[@maxwild1212]

Who is "we"?

[@philiplindley7384]

Especially as the EU is becoming more and more riven with internal arguments, to be closer would be pure self-destruction.

[@JagdgeschwaderX]

I'm from the North West and everyone I know is voting Reform including my liberal mother.

[@markemarkatfb]

Why? Tired of public school educated elites?

[@hess6wi]

Have you actually asked everyone you know? I live in the north west. I've spoken about it with quite a few people - exactly 1 of whom is considering reform but torn between them and the Lib Dems. Most of voting for Labour.

[@pontiouspilotman]

Vote Reform!

[@maartenaalsmeer]

Brexit safe with Labour? That's irrelevant. Brexit isn't 'reversible', all the UK could hypothetically do is apply for a new EU membership.

[@Knappa22]

But all the gammons are saying we have brino and that brexit hasn’t been realised. Which is it?

[@markemarkatfb]

That's the beauty of the referendum. Not only did it not say where we would be going after leaving the EU, it also didn't say that we wouldn't return back later on. I might start a taxi service that promises to take you out of the town you are in, drive you around somewhere for a bit and then deposit you somewhere (possibly back where you started) and see if 17.41 million people sign up.

[@jenniferlawrence2701]

What Brexit?

[@kaliyuga6613]

Continued loyalty to the Labour Party - as exhibited here by PE - is no wiser than continued loyalty to the Conservative Party. IE it's a serious liability. Vote reform, sack the traitors.

[@davidwylde8426]

Hard disagree…. Possibly 😉 You’re probably right of course. But if Paul had genuine Political power I’d suspect he’d be someone I could vote for.

[@davidwylde8426]

I’d be really, really interested to what degree Paul could end up subsumed within a new emergent centrist party. I suspect that he emphatically isn’t an ideologue.

[@whylie74]

Nothing is safe with starmer and his mob.

[@disappointedenglishman98]

He stills peddles the concepts of "bigotry" and "xenophobia", as if we are not entitled to have a country at all.

[@markemarkatfb]

We'd be entitled to a country of one race and one proscribed set of values if that's what the majority wanted. It isn't, which is why no party is proposing that, not even Reform.

[@disappointedenglishman98]

@@markemarkatfb No one has ever voted for a situation where only 57% of live births in England and Wales are classified by the ONS as White British. A huge further rise in the ethnic population is baked in. The British people don't know what is about to hit them.

[@Jezza_One]

We are entitled to a country where the native English are the majority.

[@markemarkatfb]

​@@Jezza_One White British people choose to have far fewer children than immigrant families and we have an increasingly elderly population whose healthcare will be funded by the people in work in the coming years. How will we have enough people in work to fund the healthcare that we all want without more immigration? Should we sacrifice healthcare and other public services as a price worth paying? On the downside, longer waiting times for cancer treatment etc, but on the upside less need to interact with people who don't look and sound like us? Is the cost worth the benefit?

[@christinerussell113]

I have a lot of respect for Paul Embery. He is, in many ways, typical of what I call old school Labour. Representing Labour as it once was, a party created for, and led by many working class people, proud of this country, its heritage, and its incredible achievements. However, that party, one which I once supported, no longer exists. Today, labour is filled with mainly middle class, university educated, EU loving, identity politics obsessed, Metropolitan elites. A party which actually appears to despise Britain, its history, and its still majority white population. Despises us, yes, just as Embery himself has written about in his book. And that is why we, the said working class Brits, can no longer look to Labour as a solution to anything. We instead need to make a bold decision, vote for a new party, one which, at the very least, loves this country and intends working for the best interests of its people. Not for the care and interests of anyone and everyone else.

[@kamapublishing9949]

SDP

[@LaurenceTalbot-i4y]

Nothing is safe with him he let Jimmy savile get on with his vile ways

[@maxwild1212]

Imagine if we lost all the wonderful tangible Brexit benefits we are all currently enjoying. Scary stuff.

[@markemarkatfb]

We'd have sky high legal and illegal immigration. Thank goodness that's all now under control. Thank you Brexit!

[@aclark903]

@@markemarkatfbIt’s very easy to be snarky, not so easy to run a country. As Kier is about to find out.

[@markemarkatfb]

@@aclark903 I feel sorry for him, the bar has been set so high by the last few PMs that I don't see how he could possibly prove better than any of them. But my guess is that he'll just coast along on a wave of all the positive economic benefits due to Brexit, and pass it off as his own achievements. We all really know that it's Brexit that has already made life feel so much better for everyone, you'll not be fooling us Mr Starmer!

[@janpetersen7440]

Brexit UK under Labour leadership may be able to negotiate an EU arrangement a la Norway. Which means that the UK gets a share of the benefits but no influence and simply has to live with and accept the EU's rules - including the ECHR.

[@markemarkatfb]

That's madness. The only reason to do that would be to increase trade with the EU, grow the economy and have more money for public services like the NHS and police. Why would anyone want that?

[@philipmilner9638]

Kier Starmer, has many faces and wears a different one, depending who he's talking to... Labour have NEVER delivered anything in their safe seats, it's time for proportional representation, that would make polititains fight for every vote...

[@phillipneale5256]

I would not trust Starmer with anything. If Labour gets in charge the country will soon want him out thats for sure. Things are bad now but in a few months' time it will terrible. Vote Reform only sensible voice in the room.

[@kenhardy8405]

Nothing Is safe with Slippery Starmer , He changes policies like changing His socks .

[@kamapublishing9949]

Only the superficial ones...

[@jedjones9047]

Get back into the eu has been starmers plan from day one it'll be his first priority you can count on that.

[@christinalayzelle832]

Short answer: NO

[@lesking6541]

Great respect for Paul, but he's adrift here. Labour will take us back, closer to the EU and immigration will continue at least as high.

[@markemarkatfb]

Has leaving the EU helped reduce immigration? I haven't noticed any connection. It is harder to get a decent plumber though.

[@27july1954]

Labour will start doing the right things regarding Brexit.

[@BonusHole]

Just no.

[@peterfrance702]

The Right things? 😂

[@nickgood8166]

And next week, is the Pope Argentinan?

[@asnowman8094]

Is the UK "turning left" or would 'defaulting left' be a more apt description... Appears more along the lines of Labour maintaining their previous support level while the Conservative vote collapsed.

[@TREVORALLMAN]

Voting for the Labour Party isn't "turning left". Left-wingers are continually being expelled by the Labour Party, and having heard one of the candidates last night who is a Shadow Minister, there was little to choose between what he and the Conservative candidate said. If they hadn't have been introduced as being either a Labour or Tory candidate, you'd not have known which of the two parties they were in.

[@firefox2402]

God! He talks too much!

[@ChrisVaughan-gj7ve]

If all Labour people were like you I wouldn’t be putting me Union Jack back in the draw for the last time on the 4th

[@deal2live]

Will Labour stop the boats!!??

[@wendyholland2339]

There will be more with labour

[@markemarkatfb]

How? By invading French territorial waters and dumping people back there so they can try again? That's going to end well, surprised nobody has tried it...

[@TREVORALLMAN]

@@markemarkatfb Indeed. To try and just return illegal immigrants from whence they came would mean the French authorities giving permission for a UK vessel to enter their territorial waters, which, given France doesn't appear to be making much of an effort to stop them leaving in the first place, it is debatable as to whether they'd give that permission.

[@wendyholland2339]

Vote reform only way to go for your children's safety

[@shelleyphilcox4743]

The UK when in the EU had nowhere near the kind of state aid the rest of the EU give their businesses and well below the EU average. When the EU kicked up about ensuring the UK did not operate on an unfair playing field in terms of subsidy, it was almost funny...almost. There is an extraordinary amount of play between what the UK does and what Germany, France, Italy and Spain do as the other major economies that are in the EU. For example, in 2019, the UK spent 0.51% of GDP on state aid, while France spent 0.85% and Germany 1.54%. This is illustrative of previous trends...that the UK has spent significantly less as a % of GDP on state aid than any of the other major economies.

[@markbateman9222]

I am another Labour member (since 1983) who voted to leave the EU. Relic of the 1980s Bennite Left and supporter of a certain newspaper now, sadly, no longer extant. Starmer's pushing for a second referendum (or "confirmatory vote" as it was sometimes called) did more than anything else to hand the Red Wall to Boris in 2019. If he gets a majority anything like the ones being forecast he will rejoin the EU in all but name - and the middle class Labour vote will love him for it. The working class will be ignored - as ever. Angela Raynor will be wheeled out from time to time to appease the "left" but will have absolutely no impact on policy that will be decided by a Starmer/Reeves axis.

[@keewng]

As a Brexiter I am gutted by Conservative Party Fucked-Up up Brexit and if Starmer could negotiate a good EU Deal that includes a foot in EU door so be it.

[@MarcusCorbett]

Is Britain safe with Starmer. He was instrumental in the imprisoning of a journalist without charge or trial indefinitely in solitary confinement in a cell 3 × 2mts for doing what RFK described as doing his job. He then arranged illegally for e-mail correspondence to do with his visit to the US at the time to be deleted. I fail to see why he was not charged.

[@andrewsheppard3189]

Surely the question is.. 'Will Britain be safe with Starmer?' The answer? An emphatic NO.

[@TREVORALLMAN]

Brexit isn't safe with Labour or Conservatives, given what I heard at a hustings last night, with the Tory also wanting to rejoin the EU, and opposed leaving as he used to be an EU bureaucrat.

[@stevesmith3990]

I like Paul, if more folks in Labour were like him I would maybe be happy to vote for them. As it is I am quite terrified of what they will do - and likely without even telling us..

[@nicolaclark4234]

No it's not safe, Starmer don't care that we wanted to leave the EU, he didn't and once he gets your vote he will work his agenda. He stated that Westminster was a tribe and he likes WEF more. He said that he could work with those in Davos....and there's the real career aim. I can't believe that anyone would vote for Starmer. Vote for anyone apart from the 3 main Parties.

[@JN-om6rw]

Brexit is absolutely safe because there is not a snowball's chance in hell that the EU would have us back again - they've had enough of the likes of Farage Widdecombe and Hannan

[@alexanderjohns1588]

No, no, no, no, no Sir Starmer and David Lammy will submit to all things EU.

[@TomRelubbus]

The man talks a lot of sense, although his views are more old school Labour, rather than the middle class Blairite Labour of today

[@anastasiamacvicar5609]

I don't think labour will get them voters back, the establishment insulted the working class

[@helentarry2692]

Without agreeing with his politics, I have a great respect for Mr Embury

[@helentarry2692]

I do respect MR Embery without agreeing with his politics

[@1943colin]

'Aren't you grown up enough to realise that 'trust' and 'Starmer' are words that don't go together?

[@jamesratcliffe8470]

Very good, very sensible and insightful comments

[@swarming1092]

Does anyone still seriously think Brexit was a great success? Is that still a thing?

[@maxwild1212]

It's a weird Emperor's New Clothes-esque charade that we're all apparently supposed to go along with.

[@ChristianoRodríguez-h3k]

Is our Human rights are safe in UK ? Will our wallets be fuller? I do not think so

[@IainFrame]

The UK hasn't turned left. People are just fed up with the Tories.

[@FraserBailey-jm5yz]

It's always good to see Paul, one of the very few people on the left possessed of any sense of integrity.

[@prasanamcdonald7991]

If Corbyn thought this man pretended to endorse him in the last elections how can we trust him about anything? He called Boris a liar at every PMQs, and now I realise he was describing himself to a tee!!

[@FEiSTYFEVER]

Classic left tactic. Accuse your enemy of what you are doing, in order to cause confusion.

[@jimbalshaw7347]

Nothing is safe with Starmer he doesn't even know his self what he wants or believes in !

[@gilltom8034]

With respect, you are quite wrong when you say that Japan is among the countries moving politically to the right. On the contrary, the long governing establishment conservative party, the Liberal Democratic Party, is beset by scandals and steadily losing support. Until recently but didn’t really matter, because the opposition was so fragmented that there was no serious alternative. Now, however, a series of by elections and local elections seems to show the Constitutional Democratic party emerging as the biggest and most influential opposition party.

[@gilltom8034]

Keep an eye on the Tokyo gubernatorial election coming up on July 7.

[@SteviePeters-x3u]

Paul cries about thatcherism but supports labour…. a thatcherite party

[@mycatspethooman5590]

Annalise Dodds seems to think immigration needs to increase

[@billythewhizz8077]

If Labour gets a ‘landslide’ majority I would like to see a demographic, geographic, postal v in person voting breakdown. We will then see exactly who put them in charge. We will also see how immigrants change the vote against the interests of the indigenous peoples of our great country. We will also see how inner city voters are in opposition to rural voters on many issues.

[@Knappa22]

I live in a semi rural, semi post industrial constituency with tiny numbers of immigrants. Electoral Calculus has it down as a 94% chance Labour gain.

[@Walksfar64]

No you can't trust Labour. At all with anything.

[@theymakeitlookeasy]

NO - NO - NO - NO IT ISN'T. NOTHING IS SAFE WITH LABOUR.

[@alexblue6991]

Want a migrant for a neighbour vote labour

[@sandrastewart2450]

No definatly you cant trust labour

[@wordfromabove7176]

Was it safe with the tories!!

[@Pioden-j9q]

Nothing is safe with this captain Flip flop !

[@JN-om6rw]

You should look to rejoin the customs union and that's it .. there's nothing else available

[@aleph8888]

So the EU gets the tariff revenues back instead of the UK Treasury.

[@susanmason6476]

NOTHING IS SAFE WITH STARMER

[@zephyrandmccarby1151]

no. vote reform.

[@rogerphelps9939]

No hat same failed "party" rebranded for the umpteentth time.

[@zephyrandmccarby1151]

Yeah.. keep running with that line if you love the globalist uniparty.

[@hess6wi]

I certainly hope not.

[@yossarian_lives]

Nope. For the future of Labour, just look at Mayor Khan and London.

[@kamapublishing9949]

And Wales...

[@davidwylde8426]

The four quadrant measure will equally not be up to the task. It would need a blue labour, fiscally progressive/socially …. open to conservative ideas.. party. I’d happily have Paul within the maelstrom fighting these policies out.

[@andrewsheppard3189]

Nobody can trust that mob.

[@AnthonyHolmes-on2tb]

No. He I a patriot.

[@ronmacfarlane110]

No

[@1984Scholsey]

No

[@gravitaslost]

No.

[@johannabarry4672]

Is anything safe with the swiveller?

[@markemarkatfb]

I thought he was safely on holiday in Sardinia?

[@Veritas419]

Brexit is over after the election

[@TREVORALLMAN]

Essentially it is over now, as the Conservative Party have continued to follow the EU's right-wing, neo-liberal economic policies and austerity programme, is totally in line with the EU's foreign policy, which is basically surrender to the United States of America's interests, and we still have all the EU laws on the statute books. No real surprise, as we must not forget that the Conservatives spent £9million of taxpayers' money trying to get us to vote to remain in the EU, and only stated it would respect our democratic vote to leave the EU in 2019 to get elected.

[@markhayward7400]

Even in the red wall there is now a majority of voters that recognise that Brexit has been a disaster for this country and has brought none of the benefits that were promised. Brexit shouldnt be safe in Keir Starmer's hands and he/Labour shouldnt be timid about this.

[@Knappa22]

Exactly. Hear hear.

[@williamhodgson1428]

Disaster!!!!! Really? And Europe is doing great, our economy is better than, Italy, Greece and Germany and as far as I am aware they are still in the EU. We are at least £15 billion a year better off for being out. Take a pill dear and calm down.

[@markhayward7400]

@@williamhodgson1428 Oh dear, you seem to have overdosed on the pro Brexit cool aid.

[@markhayward7400]

@williamhodgson1428 Independent analysis by Cambridge Econometrics has suggested that the UK economy has taken a £140 billion hit as a result of Brexit. In 2023, the average Briton was nearly £2000 worse off as a result of Brexit. Not even Brexit's Pied Piper, Nigel Farage, whom the gammons and lemmings followed in taking the UK economy out of the EU and over the cliff's edge, agrees with your assessment of Brexit

[@williamhodgson1428]

@@markhayward7400 cliff edge, disaster, bloody drama Queen!!

[@satorsatori8793]

I enjoy your programs. thanks!

[@RichardEnglander]

Question: is Starmer a) Neoliberal Blairite Globalist b) Neo Marxist Globalist c) something else d) both a) and b) because Marxism and Hegelian Dialectics love a contradiction. 😂😂😂

[@TREVORALLMAN]

Given the Globalists are capitalists who hate the working class, they have nothing to do with Marxism.

[@devilishdeed]

Ukraine is losing. Stop the war.

[@scotland638]

Tsar Putin can stop the war by pulling his Russian Orcs out of Ukraine.

[@Knappa22]

Goodness I hope brexit will be on the critical list with Starmer. Brexit needs to be reversed as much as possible, short of actually rejoining (which is years away sadly) Incredible how deaf even the Spectator is to the business community, which is screaming out for the self-imposed sanctions caused by brexit to be reversed. As for red wall voters - well tough, they were sold a pig in a poke. Best they can hope for is BRINO at this stage. We’ve got to live in reality.

[@Jezza_One]

We already have BRINO.

[@Knappa22]

@@Jezza_One Yes. Good.

[@Jezza_One]

@@Knappa22 If the EU became a trade block instead of a political union I would vote to immediatelty rejoin. In its current state not a chance.

[@Knappa22]

@@Jezza_One Fair enough. I’m relaxed on that score personally. I’d be happy with the Euro currency, schengen etc. Should have done it years ago.

[@GeekHelix]

"While Europe is turning to the right, the UK is turning to the Left." ... Are you actually that out of touch with reality that you don't understand that the UK is predominantly right wing, just a "Right-Wing" party in the UK is a joke of an idea to us at this point... They're just different speeds of Left Wing Policies.

[@Frohicky1]

Hi Paul. What is the correct wage, and where in the bible is it stipulated?

[@ianfraser6161]

Is Brexit safe with Starmer’s Labour? I sincerely hope not.

[@davidmiller1215]

NOT A CHANCE REFORM ONLY

[@psiphon2808]

It’s safe in that he’ll reverse the complete crap show that is Brexit.

[@TREVORALLMAN]

I'm guessing you've not noticed the complete crap show in the EU, with Germany already in recession, and France hot on its heels, thus the two former economic powerhouses of the EU both in deep shit.

[@JohnSmith-qm6xx]

No labour would sell it's soal to govern I hate there politics.