Can The U.S. Economy Survive Without Immigration?

[@rudy13281]

Sometimes the jobless are not looking for a job. They are "choosing" their job. When they don't have one, they blame the others for stealing the job they are not willing to do. THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED.

[@dejacavu6259]

Since COVID-19 This is a New America! Everything operates different now!! The past is water under the bridge !

[@dandx67895]

There are always job opportunities out there. It's their choice to choose whether to do them or not. And immigrants took the shot and thrive. Just don't be lazy and blame immigrants for "stealing" your jobs

[@tenminutetokyo2643]

Americans had full employment before mass immigration. The US labor force participation is the lowest it has been since 2000. Americans are not looking for jobs because foreign staffing firms now control all hiring in US companies and are deliberately keeping Americans out of jobs. How come armies of foreign H-1B job robbers didn't create enough jobs for everyone as promised?

[@jaxica476]

@@tenminutetokyo2643 5% of americans were will unemployed before the pandemic lol

[@Helloder-v1z]

Spoken from an immigrant

[@reggie69.]

The comment section is about to turn into a war zone

[@koketsok1513]

and i have my tea to sip to it all

[@tsubadaikhan6332]

No Way! You're lying! You've just been brainwashed by MSNBC, CNN & Fox!

[@O6i]

That's what America does, turns everything into a war zone.

[@gazaalley3862]

@@tsubadaikhan6332 lol literally everything argument 😂

[@KabbaModern03]

😂😂😂😂

[@toodiablo]

Its like Real Madrid banning foreign players

[@sergiorobles7169]

lol wth you bringing soccer for to a political report jaja. btw go man city

[@leninocegueda11]

Accurate.

[@AtomicApe]

😄👌

[@marcusmagice]

Not even close !!!!

[@Mcforlarr]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@luddity]

Looks like Americans are going to be out in the fields picking their own groceries in future.

[@gregoryldismukes]

I think we'll have machines in the future.

[@joseportillo1699]

They won’t even last a day

[@jennydevic]

@@gregoryldismukes Farmers barely make enough. Do you think they can afford machines that can read the ripeness of a tomato while delicately handling it in a timely manner?

[@saffron3113]

Good

[@saffron3113]

@@jennydevic Itll be subsidized like everything else in the agriculture sector

[@JadedJassy21]

This Jessica person really doesn't know what she is talking about...nor does she have any data to back up her views.

[@giovannisantosandrade4584]

Bro I was thinking the same thing, she looks annoying

[@Phrancis5]

Yeah, she's just echoing Republican beliefs and fear mongering. I've worked in tech for decades and there literally aren't enough skilled domestic programmers to fill all the (high paying) roles. I've worked with tons of Indian and Chinese HB1 visa holders because those countries put out way way more STEM graduates than the US. Tech is the most lucrative sector, with so many of those companies started by immigrants in Silicon Valley. So many companies and inventions all throughout American history were done by 1st or 2nd gen immigrants.

[@jillthompson6110]

Yes, this Jessica person claims native-born Americans will now start to work 8 hour days, picking vegetables in the hot sun for minimum wage. How credible is that?

[@actualideas8078]

Phrancis5 nah you’re wrong bro. America has plenty of talent here. We don’t need immigrants to come and occupy jobs. We can handle ourselves fine. Why do the immigrants need to go to the US if they are so much more talented than Americans? Get real

[@noob.168]

@@actualideas8078 Says the descendent of an immigrant.

[@jxsilicon9]

Georgia tried it and couldn't find Americans to work on farms.

[@donnabat7808]

And a lot of the Americans are old

[@mariamcm4173]

jxsilicon9 I would have when I was younger (76 now) but not for the wages farmers pay. No one should have to work 70 hours a week to be able to live.

[@i3d3]

@Tediuki Suzuki and take all money they earn with them and spend it in their home country, not contributing to the US economy. If anything, only permanent visas should be issued to people who embrace American values and culture and have an interest in America growing.

[@PlNKUHOSHI]

They have to MAKE the unemployed work for the benefits, they do that in Germany and other countries.

[@lordrisay]

@Michael Cantu Not really true alot of illegals were also involved when they tried to stop business and farms from hiring illegals those farms started going under and caused an economic disaster. That is why they changed tactics attack illegals but ignore those who hire them. Basically cheap labour to exploit and to report and show they are taking a tough stance when they really want the system to continue running.

[@tsubadaikhan6332]

There's no such thing as a job an American won't do? That lucky lady's never been in the bathroom at Chipotle after me...

[@WaddahMoghram]

Lol

[@gnomechump-stiny7128]

Lol

[@michaelgray1803]

Yeah who do you think used to do that work

[@tsubadaikhan6332]

@@michaelgray1803 Whoever it was - You don't want that Visa!

[@michaelgray1803]

@@tsubadaikhan6332 I did it my and friends did it

[@TraderOmar]

When you realize Einstein and Elon musk were immigrants 😂😂

[@awabaltahir9547]

They don't mean white immigration

[@chineseviruszombie773]

But they came from hard-working cultures, not Spanish cultures.

[@chinmaiveera2105]

How they became "Steve Jobs","Larry Page","Sergey Brin "

[@Aeros802]

Albert Einstein was war bootie not an immigrant. Musk is a white refugee from South Africa.

[@TorutheRedFox]

@@Aeros802 still immigration, no matter the reason

[@snoorislam1324]

"No one is "stealing" your jobs,you spend too much on wars"-Jack Ma.

[@pipelayer859]

Of people come here illegally and take a job that you want than that's stealing

[@R369-k5o]

Half of every tax dollar goes to the War Machine, I dont want to support killing of women and children with RC Drones

[@pipelayer859]

@Mr. Holbrook how

[@Luis-jp7ot]

@@pipelayer859 you werent goign to take that job my friend its the same if a american came to any other country and got a job is that stealing no

[@pipelayer859]

@@Luis-jp7ot yeah I was

[@MrTekanalyst]

They should fact check this lady, Jessica Vaughan, about her statements. First of all not all Americans are willing to do any job that requires real physical hustle, and secondly there is no such thing cheap labor when anyone is on visa. To receive any work visa, the applicant wage needs to meet the requirements set by each county for a job profile. Most of the tech jobs pays well above $100K so wonder where is she getting her information.

[@wifine1951]

From my ass.

[@ashleigh3021]

MInimum wage always causes a market distortion - firms just raise prices elsewhere. If you increase the pool of labour, the stock of money doesn't increase and so instituting a minimum wage is useless because firms will raise prices elsewhere to accommodate for the costs, or worsen conditions because they know someone else will have to tolerate it because of the excess competition.

[@poet7158]

you do not have the power to read minds no one knows why any won't take a job. you are just assuming why, do all these people making claims ask everyone why they didn't take job offered to them ? Just more JUnk science

[@useridcn]

Plus, their employers (who are mostly likely Americans) are willing to pay thousands of dollars to apply for the work visa for them.

[@JK-qi2ww]

The lady is delusional saying American won’t do any job, I want to see her picking up fruit in the field, moving lawn, washing dishes in a restaurant......

[@PritishPrabhu]

Stop the welfare checks and you will see all of them willing to do anything to fill their stomachs.

[@LizThrash]

She probably hires a maid as well...

[@IntheEndAhNevermind]

If you pay someone enough, they will do most any job. I will clean your bathroom with q-tips, if the price is right.

[@oliverm1255]

@@IntheEndAhNevermind No ones gonna give a high wage to someone who cleans a bathroom

[@IntheEndAhNevermind]

@@oliverm1255 They will pay more, if they have to.

[@jimmyayala7649]

It's going to be much easier to get a job at McDonald's

[@albertoserrano67]

That's the last job Americans even consider before filing unemployment

[@altercaze]

Foreign workers aren't allowed to get a visa for McDonald's

[@jimpad5608]

A McDonald's can be operated with as few as two people now due to automaton, no need for any human workers. BTW, most companies can be almost fully automated with moderate investment in technology.

[@Max-ns8lc]

Diem Golightly no they aren’t entry level jobs are for people who are generally new to that type of job.

[@actualideas8078]

Alberto Serrano McDonalds shouldn’t even exist anymore. It is disgusting. You realize that the fast food chains are the ones receiving these secret corporate bail outs right?

[@someothergrl16]

No, the US economy can not survive without a body of people to exploit.

[@bluehotdog2610]

Exactly.

[@patriotUSA1]

Oh illegal alien la bruja

[@blancavelasquez9859]

Arturo Carrillo Latinos are only 17 percent of the us population and also their fertility levels are dropping which means it’s going to be a slow takeover but you do you I guess😂. Fun fact second generation Latinos are even more agains illegal immigration because most of them find them as competition

[@calvinhoward3808]

@@blancavelasquez9859 Some latinos just call themselves white, so the numbers end up much lower than reality.

[@yourmommashouse]

Blanca Velasquez funny, like whites see first gen as competition.

[@lorantluebben5180]

I dont even want to live in the US. Most of the countries are laughing at your Government. Greetings from Germany

[@carlo6870]

@Thulsa Doom That's why everyone is trying to cut you guys off. Asia is the future baby!

[@hectorvega621]

@Durian Durian Like it was back in Ancient times. Until we found the new World, but now it's going back to China.

[@cookiemonster7439]

I agree Asia is the future. 😎

[@jubiludrofher7534]

corporations will own this world and countries will be a thing of the past.

[@hectorvega621]

@@jubiludrofher7534 Nah! China has these corporations under it's mercy. Unless Corporation start building Autonomous facilities all around the Globe.

[@sarfrazahmed8178]

I am working in US on a non-immigrant visa and work in IT (I have electrical engineering degree). I have met a lot of people who work in IT and their situations and have to come to learn a lot about the visa frauds as well. So she is right about the visa frauds. Second, IT is a broad, good paying field and one can easily learn things online and get a good paying job. I have some American (white people) friends with associate and bachelor degrees and struggling to find any work. At the same time, they are too stubborn to switch career, learn new skills, and add value to their resume. They are so stubborn and constantly complain about their situation and the same time won't take any advice nor action to change their situation. So I don't agree with the lady that there is no job that American won't do.

[@ruchirpatel1933]

8:49 This lady wishes jobs at Google and big tech are “entry level”

[@shawny3693]

She’s clearly talking non-sense

[@uman9235]

She's not talking about FAANG, she's talking about companies like Infosys that flood the h1b lottery system and abuse it by bringing in nonskilled developers that later work as contractors doing just what she described.

[@TorutheRedFox]

you do realize that janitorial jobs are basically at any business that has its own premises, right?

[@Daniel-oy3ut]

@@uman9235 Interesting, and why American cannot get into infosys?

[@binli6950]

shes drunk

[@dannnyyang]

Corporate will ship jobs offshore because labor will be more and more expensive

[@SpaseGoast]

They already do that though.

[@mtik9996]

SpaseGoast then they will do it even more

[@CyberspacedLoner]

corporate and super rich billionaire tax deductions should be tied to employment of US Citizens

[@sucram1015]

Translation... They don't want to pay employees what they deserve even employees that are highly qualified but pay them cheaply to keep big profits for themselves.

[@sucram1015]

@@CyberspacedLoner Who work at those jobs?

[@cozzihoffmaann]

Don't blame immigrants if Americans can't find jobs. The economy is a nightmare because Americans couldn't behave themselves during the pandemic.

[@thewolf1801]

get out patel

[@danielgunslinger3473]

that isnt not why the economy is a mess. duh

[@tabby6426]

@Thulsa Doom well america is definitely not the best

[@legendfurong2887]

No political correctness! NO BLM! Order and Law！No riot！No chaos! No Baizuo!No fake new！

[@actualideas8078]

WRONG. Blame our easy immigration policy. The past 60 years of mass immigration has helped to destroy our economy. If immigration is such a “boost” to the US, where are the results? All I see is debt and poverty.

[@youngg1286]

100% with you mam America’s loss is Canada’s gain 💯

[@ryanhuntrajput474]

GOD SAVE OUR QUEEN AND HEAVEN BLESS THE MAPLE LEAF FOREVER 🇨🇦

[@quellyyeahjust8165]

No not really. Having Canadian critizenship doesn’t make you a US critizen automatically. That wouldn’t make sense.

[@TheNacropolice]

As my dad, an immigrant, told me when he used to work installing garage doors: You got a construction site and all you see is mostly mexicans. I mean it is fact that there are jobs people won't do

[@geekedmaxx]

There's mostly mexicans there in construction because that's all companys hire is mexicans ,I'm black and get discriminated against and not hired because I'm not mexican myself 🤣 and they fire all the blacks

[@kerosblue5609]

Works americans would not do is a lie, there were americans construction workers before.

[@dunnowy123]

This is a lie. You know this argument just perpetuates lower wage, more dangerous, less empowered work? It's hurting both American and immigrant workers. A workplace with MORE Americans is generally better paid and safer for a reason.

[@hectorcardenas2171]

Keros Blue True, but americans of previous generations were tougher than today’s. Big difference.

[@kerosblue5609]

@@hectorcardenas2171 They said that 100 years ago

[@leadreviewexchange3219]

There IS such thing as Jobs Americans WONT do... That lady is out of touch with reality

[@brucehicks5817]

I'm glad I wasn't the only one thinking that woman is clearly lost.

[@runningfromabear8354]

Nah, they'll do it. Problem is they would demand a LOT more money. If only Americans were picking fruits and veg, the cost of food would sky rocket to cover the costs of labor.

[@Jasongy827]

RunningFromABear capitalism at it’s finest. Food should sky rocket so that everybody suffers from hunger, then we will understand the exploitation of the system.

[@mistermister1541]

@@Jasongy827 Suffer from hunger? How about just ... suffer from not being obese for a change.

[@PritishPrabhu]

@@Jasongy827 On the contrary if the supply of cheap labour is reduced, wages would rise together with food. The standard of living should not change much overall.

[@Aoskar95]

Survive -Probably Thrive -No, not a chance

[@wilhathaway1987]

Wrong

[@Aoskar95]

@@wilhathaway1987 No, I assure you, the economy would survive. The US would just become very poor and move even closer to a failed state than it already is

[@Art01001]

@Ninters The best immigrants built and such policy held country in the whole history known had it right right away, whoever comes in will do whatever it takes to get foot in the door and bring self up. It worked, it works and it will work. No matter what, being poor in US is a lot better in most cases, than being rich in some other places ppl are fleeing from to US. Nuf said, not nuf understood, yet.. makes no difference. Just a fact.

[@madameclark3453]

oskado95 ding ding ding 🛎

[@Student0Toucher]

Its thriving alr

[@mslettucebfrank]

7:50 there are loads of jobs Americans will not do. And to get Americans to even think about doing those jobs Americans would demanding to be paid twice as much! Jessica Vaughan needs to touch back down to Earth.

[@bluehotdog2610]

Then Americans should be paid twice as much. Jobs should not be exported to people who don't live here.

[@saulgoodman2018]

If they don't announce that they are hiring. How will people know that they are hiring?

[@rodneydsouza2454]

@@bluehotdog2610 some industries especially agriculture profits are razer thin, doubling of salaries will cause massive amounts of inflation

[@reeeyaaad]

The amount of exploitation has been going on in some sectors, such as medical sectors, they will never think of paying twice just because you are an American. They like the exploitation too much.

[@MusicandGamesandStuf]

@@rodneydsouza2454 Cry me a river

[@fbi8047]

I was laughing when I saw an Indian expert. I can guess just how much US depend on foreigners.

[@DG-kc9zt]

Lol just graduated in technology yet too get an internship or job interview about 6 months now they are liars

[@artman7780]

She’s not Indian when she’s an American citizen.

[@swagsik390]

@@artman7780 Nope She is Indian. They all support India ahead of England despite Being uk citizens . So they are Indians

[@CosmosBFN]

@Gabriel666 sparda most Indian's are breed to so that they can work in foreign countries... 😂😂😂

[@josephnguyen9252]

Well America is built by immigrants, there’s a reason we get the most every year

[@PristinePerceptions]

One of these "experts" is presenting data to back up her conclusions, and one isn't. And it is plain for everyone to see.

[@davhong]

Search of Center for Immigration Studies and you'll quick see they should call themselves the Center for anti-immgration

[@shawnhoops9168]

which one is thoe?

[@elreytriton]

@@davhong they've got the data and you're clearly an immigrant or child of one. Who are we to believe? Have you ever been in line at a staffing company? Have you ever seen all white and black workers be replaced with mexicans? Many east asians are suing many tech companies because of the Indians running the companies not hiring them and only hiring Indians. Funny.

[@davhong]

@@elreytriton I've not seen staff being replaced by any immigrants nor have my position in threat however I do believe we need to be lead by data. The lady from the Center of Immigration Studies was quick to assume American workers would accept the lowly paid labour intensive jobs without data or acknowledging that Americans value the worth of their labor, and that some companies hire immigrants to exploit them with lower wages and their lack of understanding of the labour laws. I believe most Americans want to work, feel valued and are paid their worth. Having skilled workers helps a country grow with innovation and fill in skill gaps so it's not a bad thing.

[@elreytriton]

​@@davhong yeah im sure you're blind to it. Looks normal to you. You would NEVER see this happen in Asia. This country is full of sellouts and the backlash wont be pretty

[@seasong7655]

The US has tons of monopolies that drain highly skilled workers from other countries. So this law might actually be a blessing for the world.

[@santiagoflores8671]

THAT’S SO TRUE!!

[@shreevatsalamborghin]

Absolutely developing countries need them

[@blasttrash]

I think it wont effect developing countries. If US stops immigration, these highly talented people will move to Canada or something.

[@natasharules770]

It will, company's will simply move labour overseas because at the end of the day a company's aim is to reduce costs. Americans will have to learn how to live without immigration, which will also force them to lay back on the capitalism or poverty will increase.

[@FinancialShinanigan]

Who needs TV drama when we have CNBC lol

[@nativenation3296]

don't forget Fox, msn, CNN

[@ensignmjs7058]

I haven't owned a television in almost 15 years.

[@purdudan]

So 500lb Tammy is gonna start working at the farm?

[@einnAnnie]

No, but her 95 lb tweaker son, Billy Jim will. Bonus: he won't eat all the fruit he picks.

[@jonathanandrew2909]

Have you never worked on a farm? Because I have. And I probably tended over enough food during that time to last me my entire life. Farming is incredibly productive these days. You only need 1-2% of the population working on farms to produce enough for the other 98%.

[@jonathanandrew2909]

Veroosh Tarot & Astrology Horoscope for real! I’d say it only takes 2 or 3 summers working on a farm to produce the amount of calories one consumes their entire lifetime. I did this in my late teens as an introductory job. It’s still possible!

[@whathell6t]

Jonathan Andrew But where? Did you work at the San Joaquin Valley, California?

[@tenminutetokyo2643]

She will have to since so many Chinese industrial spies now occupy 95% of all STEM jobs in America and Tammy is being kept out of those jobs by Chinese and Indians.

[@ab3040]

Honestly I doubt it my dad came from Asia in the 80s and began mopping floors in target. Then moved across the country and opened 4 businesses giving 38 people permanent jobs for a few years, and dozens of others temporary work. Then he married my mom, and made 2 more businesses giving the U.S a few dozen more jobs. All while barely understanding more than a few sentences in English. Now he has 2 kids that are both in or going to college for engineering and medical degrees and will further support this economy. I don't think every person can be like my dad, but if even 5% are it's a great help to this economy.

[@SarahRamsingh]

Your dad is the American dream.

[@deepak842009]

Congratulations to him for making it big buddy 😀.

[@npjavia]

Similar situation with my dad from India

[@natasharules770]

@ZoG Rot oh please. My parents are also immigrants, both of them are black, with PhDs in chemistry. My dad started his career cleaning toilets in the UK and retired a lecturer in chemistry. I have two siblings, one just started uni, I'm finishing marketing this year and my brother just finished his LLB. Another family friend of ours migrated to the US, the father is a university lecturer and the mom is doing her masters and they are also black. You don't know the capability of the immigrants by their skin colour. You are simply racist.

[@ab3040]

@ZoG Rot how is IQ related to helping the economy? In fact there are even many studies saying IQ can be a bad show of knowledge for many people

[@stefanossmitty3318]

Who does this Jessica woman kidding? I’m not sure the last time I saw an American who was born here lining up to pick strawberries, clean office buildings, cooking in the kitchens of restaurants for 12 hours a day.

[@ang5035]

I know right? Why was she even interviewed for this piece with that nonsense. She is spewing ignorance and they don't even fact check her. SMH

[@dtphenom]

Data from the US Department of Commerce shows that over the over 436 occupational categories in the US only 6 are comprised of majority immigrants. These jobs make only about 1% of the national workforce. Even then, the lowest non-immigrant percentage for those 6 jobs is about 43%. Meaning that yes, Americans WILL DO these jobs and it is wrong to assume Americans won't take an opportunity to feed their families.

[@LucasFernandez-fk8se]

Cooking and cleaning is easy work. Sure picking fruit is hard but I would gladly cook or clean to get a first job.

[@darklamp9261]

There are plenty of Americans who are or have cooked and cleaned for 12 hours a day. You couldn't possible assume that only Immigrants do this type of work, right?

[@ashleigh3021]

They would line up for those things if the wages weren't artificially suppressed by imported labourers, and the conditions were enjoyable to work in. I favour American workers because I actually support my country over the profits of corporations.

[@tirthanughosh9490]

CNBC need to choose their experts carefully. This Jessica lady is probably the most ignorant expert I've ever heard in a documentary from a reputed media outlet. She has absolutely no idea what she's talking about, absolutely zilch! According to her the immigrant workers take low paying jobs in the lower rung of the corporate ladder. That definitely explains why 2/5 big tech CEOs are immigrants, and why there are so many immigrant executives in tech companies/wall street. As far as Americans willing to take any job and work on any field, sure Karen, why don't you teach the baristas and coal miners how to code? I'm sure they'll learn fairly quick and replace the entire immigrant workforce.

[@Shaurya_Pant]

Well said... 💯 agree.

[@robertchen607]

Wikipedia: The Center for Immigration Studies is an anti-immigration think tank. It favors far lower immigration numbers, and produces analyses to further those views. The CIS was founded by historian Otis L. Graham and eugenicist and white nationalist John Tanton.

[@caseclosed9342]

They’re showing opposing views on the issue, which is important for giving a more balanced coverage of the issue.

[@aoeu256]

@@robertchen607 You can be pro-eugenics and not be a white nationalist btw. People like Sam Harris and Steven Pinker seem to be both pro-eugenics and pro-immigration. I think it should be easier for people to get vasectomies which means that you can only have children when you plan to have them.

[@charlieb9248]

The population has grown by 90 million since the year I was born (1990). Perhaps an economic system that requires huge population growth is unsustainable. There is not enough housing and pollution get worse.

[@javonpryce]

I hear Americans talking about not being able to find a job, while immigrants easily find work, sometimes working three jobs at the same time. This is not about Americans not being able to find a job.

[@_thisconnected_]

Companies love to hire Cheap immigrant labour who will never unionise. They do 3 jobs and still live substandard to an actual citizen

[@javonpryce]

@@_thisconnected_ If the federal minimum wage is not enough for residents to live by, that's an issue with the country's government, not the companies. Why would a company want to pay more if the State and Government which grants them their business license tell them it's okay to pay a small amount? Why would they cut profits to pay more? Your issue is with your governing body. Fix that, raise the minimum wage and companies will have to comply.

[@wasabiwitt2876]

US citizen with a foreign spouse here. This topic hits me hard. We applied in 2018 and have been playing by all the rules to get my partner into the US legally so that we can start a life. Never before has a presidential decision impacted my life so negatively. What's worse is that my partner is a healthcare worker, something we really lack right now.

[@lampsizgod]

I hope you guys were able to sort things out.

[@QueenLadyQ]

My BFF just got her papers her and her husband is fine she stayed past her work visa

[@luckywilson9540]

Why you just didn't go over to the country that your spouse is from and y'all stay over there to be honest you are part of the problem

[@TerraCotton]

I’m studying for my PhD in the US and can chime in on the “America’s loss will be China’s gain” front. Historically, a huge proportion of the graduates from China’s top universities come to the US for PhD’s. Then over half of them stay for work or become professors (who have been educating highly skilled Americans). I personally know one such PhD on a Apple core team that invented industry-disrupting products that has raked in billions. Changes began in the past decade and sped up when Trump took office. A lot more such PhDs are returning to China because of the worsening situation in America and because China has been rapidly increasing support and benefits for high talents. It saddens me to see the American academia disrupted by politicians, but I’m also very proud to see my home country retaining these brilliant minds. They will bring about great things in the coming years, and Trump will keep accusing them of espionage.

[@aprithul]

I'm getting my PhD in USA as well. But I'm very much doubtful if I will be able to or even will want to stay in the USA after my PhD if things keep heading in the direction as it's now.

[@etoatoummhmm6391]

They are stealing information. But I agree with you. I’m pro immigration.

[@davidbeckhambecks]

USA has the best universities in the world

[@bigdogh6355]

@@etoatoummhmm6391 So, learning is stealing right

[@iironhide6209]

@@bigdogh6355 when china doesnt respect IPs, yeah

[@denniskelley2697]

I emigrated away from the US to the Nordics 3 years ago. Was a great decision.

[@ironmantis25]

It's called having kids. Too bad sky high living costs, job insecurity and lack of social safety net ruined that.

[@cia5649]

That’s true but it’s also a trend in developed countries to have less kids

[@sosa_es2721]

bruhh just move to better country like the uk

[@ironmantis25]

@@cia5649 Some countries need more kids like Russia, Japan, or any western nation for that matter. Some countries are so overpopulated they need government policy to curb birth rates like India or Bangladesh.

[@urinfamousr79]

Feminism ruined that

[@ironmantis25]

@@yourstepdadswife You say that now, but once you hit 35 the clock will start ticking. Go find yourself a nice hunk, get married, and have kids :) There is nothing wrong with the nuclear family, in my opinion, it should be the backbone of the country.

[@SantoshNair1]

I respect the anti-immigration argument, although I see these folks missing a big point. There are 2 categories of work guest workers do- 1. the jobs for which it's hard to find American workers APPLYING for them 2. the jobs for which it's hard to find American workers QUALIFIED for them The anti-immigration argument always talks about #1 to justify that in times of slow growth like now, Americans would be willing to work in those jobs too. i totally agree with it. But a blanket ban affects #2 which is completely overlooked. You cannot find American employees to replace jobs that are utilized by the H1B professionals. If these visa programs have been historically abused, the solution is to fix the visa policies, not vilify these H1b professionals and falsely claim that their jobs also can be done by Americans.

[@SantoshNair1]

@Dragon Slayer Yea lol... In desperate times like these they are ready to come in and wear that surgeon coat to perform a heart bypass any day 😅😂😋😋😋

[@bevvy.bee9]

yeah, a bunch of the immigration problems or even social problems at large can be solved with policy changes, unless the problem is purely ideological.

[@useridcn]

People who don't need to deal with H1B visa do not understand that their government defined those jobs qualified for H1B as the jobs they don't have enough qualified Americans to do. Also, the employers need to explain to the government why they rather pay thousands of dollars to apply for the visa for these foreigners rather than hiring Americans. My experience is that if those employers can find Americans who are 60% qualified for the jobs, they would not hire foreigners because that save them a lot of work and $. But a lot of time they can't even find Americans who are 60% qualified.

[@bobbyclay4006]

People of Faith .you better look at there country.thy not as hard workers you thank thy are. that's good news thy will keep them like that Antel TRUMP come back

[@annache250]

Honestly, especially now in 2022 when we’re dealing with a labor shortage we know for a fact that there are jobs Americans do not want to do despite pay increases

[@darthvader5532]

It's not that they don't want to do them, the government is giving them free money and that goes away if they go back to work, then there's the morons that don't want to go back to work out of fear of catching the rona, but yet, they go out shopping all the time. SMH.

[@GiridharMurali]

As an Indian, I really hope that the US continues to restrict immigration into the US. Better opportunities in the western world has sucked a lot of smart, talented people out of India. We could do with some of these smart people staying back home to help build the country inspite of all the issues that come with being in a developing country.

[@GiridharMurali]

SN CY The labour market is already super competitive. But a developing country can’t compete with a rich one in a fight for talent other than say maybe offering a compelling vision for the future. It would be like a small tech company in a tier 2 town competing with Apple or Google for talent. Of course there are other reasons than money and opportunity for people to opt for the small company and thousands do choose to stay back in India in spite of an opportunity to emigrate. But a large proportion of people will take the safe option and nothing against them for it - it is the pragmatic thing to do. Which is why I am happy at the prospect of that option not being available at all.

[@karthi7445]

I'm Indian too and I agree. And I think you're already seeing nicer jobs coming up in India. Like a decade back you only had back office roles but now you have more research roles because of tighter immigration around the world. Still not nearly enough but hopefully it will improve. And I wouldn't mind moving back to India to be closer to my parents if I had a decent job instead of just doing support.

[@karthi7445]

@Kshitij Raj well.. Lots of hard working Chinese people stayed back and decided to do their business in their home country. And now look how far they've come. We may live in a developed country but we'll always be second class because of how we look. And our children won't be in touch with our culture. So there's definitely trade offs either way...

[@caseclosed9342]

Yeah, I know! The brain drain is really hurting some countries

[@karthi7445]

@Kshitij Raj suit yourself!

[@TheMrgoodmanners]

Of course it can, but it risks turning the whole country into one giant Alabama

[@MahdiShibly]

Can you tell me what this alabama thing? I am a foreigner so don't understand alabama thing.

[@kageyamareijikun]

@@MahdiShibly I'm a foreigner too but I think Alabama has a reputation as being one of the US states where it's the norm for brothers to marry sisters, or to marry your own cousins. Basically inbreeding within the white community and zero interaction with other races or foreigners. Racial segregation

[@kageyamareijikun]

ZoG Rot well I was merely stating what I had read. As an outsider I dont really want to go into American politics. Immigration is a touchy topic the world over, not just the US. It's the same in Asia, especially for nationalist and right-wing countries like Japan. "We need more immigrants!" said literally no Asian person ever but governments be like "moar immigrants!!!!111 muh GDP growth~!" It's a political circus. More and more countries are turning inwards but governments remain tone deaf and just want to line their pockets.

[@Student0Toucher]

@@kageyamareijikun thats not true at all lol

[@thomasaquinas5262]

Immigration from south of the border has been important for years for many industries. If you think that it's limited to border towns and farms, think again. A journalist found the majority of employees at a haute cuisine French restaurant in Manhattan, as well as several delis, were from that area. That's why we need to revamp the laws to have a more streamlined process for citizenship. Many of these jobs could...or should... be held by Americans, but that just doesn't happen, just as it is in Europe...

[@pawala7]

Question shouldn't be can it "Survive?", it's can it *"Compete?"* . Do people really think an isolated state can compete with states that accept talent from other states? Then, scale that up to nations. In any case, the US isn't as attractive a work destination as it used to be with its rampant racism, guns, and dysfunctional government.

[@108nighthawk]

Racism exist everywhere and is worse in many places that are less diverse and the government is functioning just fine; the fact that we are not a one-party authoritarian state means there is room for debate within the government. Guns? What is so bad about citizenry having the capability of defending themselves?

[@haze1021]

In terms of guns, what is the rate of gun violence for all developed nations in the world? Maybe travel a bit and take a look around the world and see how other countries that don’t allow guns work?

[@108nighthawk]

@@tnnkosi Then despite being a doctor your friend is an idiot. Statistically speaking, shootings (especially by law enforcement) have decreased over the years. The news corporations, which have advertisement agencies to respond to and a 24 hour cycle to fill, just know which stories draw the most viewers. That is the reason why they make it seem as if America is a violent, racist and dangerous place. But please, give my regards to your idiot "doctor friend".

[@kerosblue5609]

Is only seems high cause that is the only thing the media covers

[@GROOVwithme]

@@108nighthawk in any case, the media is making America unattractive to foreign workers, nonwhites will rethink their plan to immigrate into a country that has a bad rep (even if reality is different on the ground). Americans should know that its political divide is harming America a lot.

[@DivineBella1]

“There’s no job an American won’t take”..... I think she should talk to the agriculture sector who just couldn’t find enough Americans to pick those crops

[@saulgoodman2018]

That's a lie to. It's that they look for cheap labor.

[@DivineBella1]

Saul Goodman but according to her we should still be wanting those jobs,but we don’t really

[@DivineBella1]

HybridFlu well, can you find a farmer making $100k?

[@DivineBella1]

HybridFlu A) I’m specially referring to farming in this comment, while you want to speak on big global companies. It’s a disconnect B) the value of the land and the amount of cash money a farmer has in his pocket to pay workers aren’t the same. Your implying that they should borrow against the value of the land which then puts them in even more debt. An most of the time when you do hear them speak on their finances even if they sell they are still in a financial hole. C) I’m sorry to say that companies looking for cheap labor will continue.

[@shreevatsalamborghin]

It’s not that Americans are unwilling it’s the greed of the big farmers who want to reduce expenditure by cheap foreign labour

[@ayanverma5746]

*America's loss is Canada's Gain*

[@Jahmed163]

I work in IT/Telecom sector .The number of US citizens applying is close to none whenever we open a Job position. I see a big decline in US citizens getting degrees in Medical and IT which eventually open doors for foreign workers. Probably due to expensive tuition.

[@jamesbedugraham8056]

If America does not take care non Nationals will ever enter the USA for income and employment at all.

[@OanhSchlesinger]

It is a fact that companies who bring foreigners to the US on work visas are powerless to control the future when they enter. Another words marriage and visa overstay are two common ways ppl are not deported. Work visas is an easy way to enter. After that it’s anybody’s guess what happens.

[@ozzyfromspace]

As a foreigner in the US, I love the sense of opportunity that this country provides, and how welcoming Americans are in general. However, in some instances, the government and some people make a point that we’re “second class”, or generally unwelcome. It makes me reconsider whether this is where I wanna plant my roots, which sucks, because in many ways, this is a great country to live in. It’s funny that three of my favorite thinkers/innovators were foreign: Albert Einstein, Emma Noether, and Elon Musk. The irony is real, I know.

[@ghostsniperable353]

You're second class, you're not a U.S Citizen. You must work hard and do your part and earn citizenship, its isn't free. This is like in every country.

[@Kboogie90]

If you're not rich and part of the elite you're second class.

[@okunwaamadasun5892]

@@ghostsniperable353 It's kinda sad your only point of superiority against another is where you were born.

[@ghostsniperable353]

@@okunwaamadasun5892 That's the laws in every country. Citizens of that country come first.

[@TrollinOn22s]

Any of you American natural born Citizens can have my job, but you need to follow my path, which included night school and studying on weekends for exams.

[@davemack1946]

Immigrants generally make the economy better. Although they drive down the costs of labor in certain markets which employ a lot of immigrants, they also spend a significant amount of that money in the US, thus increasing demand for certain goods and services which will therefore hire more people

[@thatgui88]

YES I think companies get carried away with how much they can get away with abusing labor lower wages for immigrants etc. I'm surprised that this abusive practice of cheap labour has made california a majority minority state

[@ivyrainbitch]

No they don't

[@OanhSchlesinger]

The statement, they contribute to the US economy, is so untrue. On the contrary, their goal is to spend as little as possible. One way is by cohabitating, which allows them to send more money to the family they support back home. Then, the money is spent locally by family members which boosts foreign economy. In truth it does not help US economy at all. Rather it helps US companies by paying lower wages, operating at a profit on US soil, without abiding to the restraints of employee legal rights, etc. Its a win win situation.

[@calilavello4979]

I'd rather go to Canada, the weather sucks but it's more laid back there

[@dumdumbrown4225]

Cali Lavello - it’s laidback in Canada ‘cos the weather AND the job market sucks 😂

[@calilavello4979]

Dūm Dūm Brown That means California wins the debate? Lol

[@TanNguyen-tz8tk]

There are a lot of provinces that their weather is really warm. You should consider Vancouver of BC and cities in Ontario province.

[@calilavello4979]

Tan Nguyen I actually want to visit Vancouver since I already live on the west coast thanks for the recommendations👍

[@ryanhuntrajput474]

@@dumdumbrown4225 Canada still has a better employment rate than USA what are you talking about I'll suggest you to educate yourself rather than typing conjecture on comment threads

[@carljendrickchung6718]

For the big tech companies this is like getting shot in the foot, those employees they dont retain will go on to build competitors hahaha

[@dariaivanova1298]

The America's economy will survive without immigrants, but it will not thrive anymore. Getting the US work visa and moving countries is really hard, so I believe that most immigrants are extremely determined and hard working individuals. They differ from others in their unique experience, ability to adapt to new situations, willingness to learn another language and, because leaving your home country requires a lot of courage, fearlessness! Immigrants are an essential part of an American economy and Americans can learn a lot from working with them. Not allowing immigrants to come to the US will be a huge loss. BTW, what about all the American factories that are located abroad? How about making these big companies move factories back to the US? This change could create way more work opportunities for Americans than any changes in work visa policies.

[@reubenmorris487]

Trade agreements...politics...

[@topgear_75]

It will go down as most primary sector workers r immigrants. So if they go, the other 2 sectors will also go down

[@koketsok1513]

what dont understand is,people are making a active effort(often very legally) to go to the U.S ,to work and build a life,arent these people contributing,and before anyone yells"they mooch of benefits"The process to get a visa and immigration to the U.S is really strict,so if someone is jumping all those hoops,gets their why are people mad,its not like they are gong out of their way to not pay taxes/the government.People dont uproot their lives just to toss it for another governments befits

[@Waiting664]

Succesful immigrant will become enterpreneur to give non tech jobs to us citizen

[@saulgoodman2018]

Saying that Americans won't do a job, or they don't have the skill, is BS. That's a cheap cop out that they always go to.

[@ensignmjs7058]

Yet it's been proven.

[@saulgoodman2018]

@@ensignmjs7058 No it hasn't. Top listening to the propaganda.

[@ensignmjs7058]

@@saulgoodman2018 , sure. Go pick veggies in Alabama then.

[@ykr786]

As an immigrant electrical engineer working in a fortune 500 company in USA I can say US can easily survive without any foreign workers

[@garybala000]

Read the book “A Nation of Immigrants” by John F. Kennedy. Still relevant after all these years. Our country cannot sustain itself long without a robust and logical lawful system of immigration, especially for workers. The Jessica Vaughn woman is the policy director for Center for Immigration Studies (CIS), a group that publicly advocates for much lower levels of immigration to the US. Some call them an immigration “restrictionist” group. Her views are biased and one-sided and intended to push for lower immigration levels. She cites no study or report as support for her views n this video. Did you see that on July 30, 2020, the GDP shrank by 32.9% in the 2Q? One reason is that worker immigrants are not doing or taking jobs because they can’t get in here. As the video said, they pay billions in taxes and generate demand for goods and services, thus create demand for American jobs themselves. Shutting down lawful worker immigration to “save” jobs for Americans is like shooting yourself in the foot to prove you’re a good gun marksman. You get a medal for supposedly hitting the bullseye but it hurts a bit and gets bloody messy.

[@osakaboyz]

Remember why US won against USSR.

[@potatonugget5629]

The USSR closed itself off. Eventually, it had nothing except hard power, which is one big reason why it collapsed. America is heading down the same road

[@GGg-ug3jr]

@@potatonugget5629 not even close

[@potatonugget5629]

@@GGg-ug3jr yes it is

[@ShidaiTaino]

osakaboyz bankrupting them during the 60s

[@bluehotdog2610]

@Esport Highlight BS. It is illegal to immigrate to China. The US is welcoming to immigrants by comparison.

[@acrtez]

It's called Capitalism us citizens claimed to be proud of.

[@tenminutetokyo2643]

No it's called international socialism. Americans build the companies, then they are handed over to foreign workers for free. From each according to his abilities to each according to his needs.

[@smitajky]

@@tenminutetokyo2643 Not at all. Some other country produces the raw person then trains them at a cost to the nation. Then the US is only too happy to take these workers and use them. Producing products that are sold, at a great profit, to the countries they took the brains from. It is called having an empire dominating vassal states through military or economic coercion. Like most empires eventually it collapses because people become lazy and self entitled until the system breaks down.

[@JohnZang]

"The Center for Immigration Studies (CIS) is an anti-immigration think tank. It favors far lower immigration numbers and produces analyses to further those views. The CIS was founded by historian Otis L. Graham and eugenicist and white nationalist John Tanton. The organization was founded in 1985 as a spin-off from the Federation for American Immigration Reform, and is one of a number of anti-immigration organizations founded by Tanton, along with FAIR and NumbersUSA." - Wikipedia

[@nandom908]

Everyone knows there are plenty jobs Americans won’t do. That lady is discredited by that simple line of hers....

[@LizThrash]

The way I see it its the Americans who clean the toilets and the immigrants who write the apps they play, are the doctors they visit, and the professors they ignore.

[@fern7306]

US can survive without immigration… Just pay citizens a living wage. 🤷🏻‍♂️❗️❗️❗️

[@semmicolon]

*immigrants don't displace native workers* lol wut? tell that to the native indians who lost all their land

[@YorickReturns]

It wasn't their land, socialist.

[@potatonugget5629]

@@YorickReturns It was their lands, European colonisers quite literally committed genocide to take it from them

[@topgear_75]

This CNBC is saying immigration is bad but it never mentioned the native Americans at all

[@YorickReturns]

@@potatonugget5629 You don't own land, just because you were born there or near there! That's a terrible argument, when made now by some hick who wants immigrants to stay out of "his" country. It's an even worse argument, when applied to a time when property rights weren't even recognized! It was colonization that led to a system of property rights! As for genocide, the vast majority of deaths was due to disease. Yes, Europeans killed some American Indians, in some cases in self-defence, in other cases not. But American Indians also killed Europeans, in some cases in self-defence, in other cases not. Killing people is wrong, unless in self-defence. But there was no genocide.

[@potatonugget5629]

Liam Native Americans have lived on the American continent for literally THOUSANDS of years before Europeans colonisers arrived. It definitely wasn’t up for grabs

[@jorgemarino1993]

Americans, I am a MEXICAN living in Mexico, I have been in your country as a tourist many times. and I would like to tell you. Take care of your country, do not permit the illegal inmigration and any policy that supports it. You have the right of choose who admit or not. I am not against the people who look for better opportunities, but they have to do it legally.

[@foreverlucky75]

This is quite a common issue in many developed countries. The struggle between welcoming vs restricting foreigners. I say need a healthy balance, over restricting might cause other problems like Japan where the population now is shrinking, even though they are loosening the control now (which is a bit too late) but due to cultural differences and language barriers the number of takers weren't quite wat they have hoped for.

[@Vignana_Pradarshana]

Japan doesn't treat foreigners with PR as Japanese. You cannot become Japanese

[@TheNacropolice]

The solution is simple, it is called having children. Sooner or later, as more and more nations are facing a declining population, governments will have to start doing some crazy things

[@luddity]

@@TheNacropolice Canada has a baby bonus. AKA Child Tax Benefit.

[@3xitthissid3]

in an ever growing world, where more and more cities and housing becomes crowded and less living space is available (think the hong kong tiny rooms), why are people so freaked out over population decline? People shouldn't be paranoid. the rest of the world just cannot handle to have 1billion citizens like China - we can't have all countries be made of 1bill people. Not enough resources like food and fresh water. so you need workers in the healthcare industry to take care of the aging population - big deal. I guess those who can afford it will get services and those who can't will have to rely on their kids. eventually there will be no boomers (large amount of seniors) to take care of (like psw's) and Japan will be newborn again - like the earth and plants after the rain. All these job positions will open up for the young that were once taken up by the old. And majority of the demographic will be young and middle-aged in the workforce and not the old in retirement homes.

[@jamesbedugraham8056]

How does someone becomes a US Citizen at all.

[@Brandonhayhew]

US citizenships is a privilege not a right.

[@kmlund42]

Immigrants work for lower wages that is why. Why not raise our wages so we can afford to live as citizens that are already here?

[@Mrspideyken]

that parting shot " American loss is china's / canada s gain " really hit home if you think about it

[@PritishPrabhu]

That's funny because most of the immigrants are either Chinese or Indian. Indians currently having a thing against China so it's unlikely that many would go there.

[@off4on]

@@PritishPrabhu so they will go to Canada. Don't see anything wrong with what Kenneth said

[@PritishPrabhu]

@@off4on Canada is really a tiny economy to absorb everyone. But perhaps more likely they will end up in Germany or the UK

[@kaushiksankaran]

@@PritishPrabhu well if companies shift their base to Canada, there could a good possiblity of jobs and also a growing economy for Canada... After all US's loss is someone else's gain...

[@Dansk55]

90% of the Grad school Engineering students in my university were immigrants lol

[@kansasthunderman1]

Probably student spies funded by the China Communist Party. That's why Trump wants them out of the U.S. ASAP.

[@bigjude100]

@@kansasthunderman1 you are seriously stupid

[@aoeu256]

@@kansasthunderman1 Aren't most secrets owned by the private sector not the public sector though?

[@dru4670]

@@aoeu256 they are actually 😂. Government is not good at hiding secrets. It's easier to use private companies.

[@gg3675]

"Farm work doesn't require a lot of skills" ok Jessica, just shut up before you embarrass yourself any more xD

[@diesonne1616]

yep

[@gg3675]

@Pichkalu Pappita Wow, you pointed out a highly skilled job. I guess no other job is skilled because aerospace engineers exist.

[@gg3675]

@Pichkalu Pappita You're not even remotely correct about that, though. It's not exactly like you just throw seeds in the field and they pop up perfectly packaged for market. We're talking about knowledge of chemical application, knowledge and skill with certain industrial machinery, knowledge and skill with harvesting techniques specific to certain crops, often a working knowledge of plant genetics and soil biology (which I can tell you as a biologist are on the complicated end of our discipline). Yes, there are jobs that require more skill, but farmers have to wear a lot of different hats and develop deep skill sets that require a variety of licensing and years of experience. That's not "low skill" labor dip ass.

[@gg3675]

@Pichkalu Pappita it's not exotic at all it's just skilled labor

[@mitri5389]

@Pichkalu Pappita lol how many aerospace jobs are there? especially now

[@hazim1545]

Short answer: no Long answer: Hell no

[@gregparrott]

7:51 Vaughn says there is no work that Americans won't do. She obviously has NOT been near the fields in Southern and middle California. REALITY CHECK: How many Americans will move, at their expense, to work in fields all day, with temperatures often exceeding 100F, for sub-minimum wage, no benefits, and decrepit housing (if any)? Now, if you're willing to triple the wage, and offer some benefits, and pass greatly increased food prices on to U,S, consumers, there may be a few takers.

[@jacobgoldenofficial4321]

I've traveled the USA by car many times I have found Mexican workers in places I didn't expect Any farmer knows Mexican and central Americans are the best when it comes to farm work I doesn't matter if you have 5g if there's no food on the table Something we realized during the Pandemic.

[@michaelgray1803]

Who in the hell do you think used to do farm work black people and still do

[@patriotUSA1]

We need to deport all mexican’ts

[@jacobgoldenofficial4321]

@Tediuki Suzuki They might join blm

[@jacobgoldenofficial4321]

@Dragon Slayer Nahh, still waiting for the next stimulus package 😂😂

[@michaelgray1803]

@Cory Butdette isn't that what I said

[@bbalila]

We should adopt Point base system like Canada, Australia etc & for low skill, just work visa like Middle East countries. Also consider how much a person paid the taxes, High taxes mean quick path to immigration.

[@apelsinuke]

dude, at least USA allows USA's citizens' spouses and children to re-enter without a problem, but Japan doesn't allow even that (not to mention the rest, who have a legal permit to live and work in Japan). so, America, it could have been much worse.

[@Roozzzzdude1]

Actually, they don't, without a specific re-entry permit that you have to wait anywhere between 3 to 7 months for, you are not allowed to leave the country/won't be permitted back in.. even as the spouse of a US citizen.

[@whatintheworld6076]

America stopped investing in education of its citizens, from early childhood to higher education. The education level of the US population has fallen behind in the world. High paying jobs like tech, finance, medical, etc REQUIRE education and skill. In a capitalist society, when supply of qualified labor falls, demand is met by substituting the source of the supply. The term qualified in this case incorporates education level, experience, work history, etc. One thing Americans don’t seem to understand is that employers look at everything about candidates for a job. If you quit your last job, have a gap in your resume, etc, all this affects your chance of hire. Immigrants have a unique perspective in that just quitting and walking out on a job is not an option for them. That’s something most Americans are okay with doing. I mean, how many time have you heard Americans say that they want to explore life, figure out what they want to do in life or even get upset at work and just quit. That’s a very American thing to do. Immigrants, not so much.

[@DC-ek6ib]

Sir your opinions are based on facts 👍🏾👏👏.

[@erikpienk]

that lady doesnt know what she is talking about. Most Americans wont take high stress or complex working environment. Not because they catn but because they dont want to. In my University during my masters more than 85% of researchers were international students, and companies would hire them because of their specialized set of skills. Not because they where cheaper.....

[@rubikscube3023]

Just to make short. The answer is no. America can't make it.

[@blainebryan4665]

Lmao we were doing it before the 1965 immigrant act so of course we can.

[@aboodbyxapn8332]

It's fun to see the U.S collapsing on it's self. 😂

[@alenpaul2523]

Abood byxapn Americans digging their graves

[@ShidaiTaino]

Abood byxapn soon the entire state will collapse

[@nativenation3296]

Floyd Redcrow said it the best " We were told that we would see America come and go, In other words America is dying...from within "...

[@bluehotdog2610]

It's fine to see Europe collapsing on itself

[@patriotUSA1]

It’s funny to see jealous NON Americans coming to American KZbin and commenting on topics they are clueless about 🤣

[@theunplannedcreative]

So immigrants shouldn’t come here illegally, but also Trump is reducing legal immigration. AND....Companies should keep more jobs in the US, but also Trump is essentially trying to get rid of immigration which removes a fundamental aspect of the US economy.

[@freedeworld]

H1B visa requires the employer to show proof of inability to hire Americans in a period of 90 days and the salary paid to the H1B worker cannot be lower than the industry standard set by the department of labor for everyone. How then can the tech companies pay the immigrant workers less? And how can H1B worker be replaced if it has already been shown that there is no qualified American for the job offered?

[@abrahammathew4194]

We should have an immigration system more like that in Canada so that we attract the most educated and most intelligent people who speak english. The current H1B visa lottery is a joke. I've worked with many OPT's and H1B's as a data scientist, and most of them weren't worth much (just average) PS. I'm an immigrant from India

[@larrybell1859]

Good point.

[@tracycove257]

Americans want immigrants 1 who can do PhDs in their universities 2 who can do gardening and clean up roads 3 who can help their tech companies to compete and flourish 4 Finally punch-bags for their politicians who can blame the above

[@thinkfreely5303]

I would rather protect and cherish the roots of American culture like white european heritage, specifically Christianity. If you were to go around and ask millions of voters what matters to them, I dont think any of them would list what you have above. People want to perpetuate their own society, way of life, and culture. Bringing in a million+ immigrants every year is making it increasingly difficult to perpetuate the unique American way of life. These people come here and yeah maybe they do increase the gdp a bit, but what good is that if they are undercutting wages thereby making 2 income households almost essential to financially survive (which compounds declining birth rates of native born Americans), they are changing the fabric of the American society, and they have no connection whatsoever to our history, our culture, and our people. They speak their foreign language, wave their foreign flag, and maintain their foreign beliefs. That spells disaster for the American people who want to perpetuate what they have created. Mass immigration is irreversibly changing what we have created, and as a people, we have the right to self determination and should speak up if we dont want that.

[@tracycove257]

@@thinkfreely5303 tell that to blacks and native americans

[@thinkfreely5303]

Tracy Cove I am a native American lol. And blacks have probably the most to gain economically of any demographic group in America from decreased immigration. Blacks in America largely work blue collar jobs that face severe wage growth suppression due to the massive influx of laborers from immigration. Cutting that off would require employers to raise wages to fill positions, which would greatly benefit blacks. On the cultural front, I would say its very ignorant to think neither blacks nor native born Americans want to perpetuate their culture and people. Improving and securing a better future for your group is the most innate instinct of human beings. So what exactly is your rebuttal?

[@fabriceizzo2922]

The US doesn't just benefit from cheap and plentiful labor from immigration. The US benefits from many other factors related to immigration.

[@SvenPiper]

It is a pity that Immigrants are the scapegoats of the Trump administration. Elon Musk, Steve Jobs (son of an immigrant), Sergey Brin (Co-founder of Google and born in Russia), Nikola Tesla and many more have made America great.

[@zachb1706]

Of course it would survive. Is it desirable? No, but it won’t mean our economy will collapse.

[@yili3339]

of course it can, native american lived just fine before columbus.

[@dejacavu6259]

TRUE THAT!

[@christianjire2739]

please remember that 99% of all Americans are either immigrants or descendants of immigrants 😂😂😂😂

[@cottagefarm9799]

America is FULL.

[@blablabla6975]

@@cottagefarm9799 actually it's empty compared to other countries

[@christianjire2739]

@Angel S but before you were US citizens your were foreigners, so why not give other people the possibility of becoming US citizen through hard work like your families got the chance 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@christianjire2739]

@@cottagefarm9799 it wasn't full when your people immigrated there? 🤣

[@cottagefarm9799]

blablabla I don’t compare my country to other countries. I compare my country to my historical perspective of America and America IS FULL!

[@Gandalf17]

its all about money. but no. americans can live fine without immigrants.

[@Art01001]

It was built, grew and is up to the point because of immigrants. Best minds, souls, workers from around the world came here looking for a best place to promote themselves, build and cherish, that's why it is the Greatest.. cuz of the ppl who came here are the Greatest from around the Globe. Edit: whoever was born here, have no clue about the World, that's why they are so spoiled and ignorant.. go back to your country is just digging back to your grand parents who came here as well as the recent others.

[@cesarlez2175]

American ppl are so spoiled lol, just look at them rn not listening, no wearing mask, protesting through a pandemic and they want the Gov to give them free money lol! Other countries dont give you a penny and ppl is doing better

[@vanhong9834]

My company outsourced their IT and other dept to India. Pay cheaper for better IT and engineers, Win win for both.

[@kd-bv4my]

Is laughable when some Americans claim there's no jobs but warehouses are always looking for employees.

[@aoeu256]

We should build robots and have the robots controlled remotely by people in Afghanistan.

[@dcc210]

This felt like a Vox video

[@chrisredd214]

That’s hella true

[@diwakarsingh5056]

Soooo true

[@topgear_75]

Most of CNBC vids feel like a corporate version mix of vox and Wall Street

[@GrigoriFeresin]

not against immigration; against uncontrolled and/or illegal/undocumented immigration

[@Aresindian]

As an future American immigrant I respect your point of view,any immigrant should take legal way

[@StuartDesign]

They want more competition for low skilled work during a new great depression?

[@davidpeters4813]

I met a woman from Asia on one of those 90 day Visa's. Within 24 hours, was doing anything I wanted. Got her a permanent Visa. She was gone forever the next day. Didn't take me long to figure out, that they're trained what to do, even before they leave for the airport. I've been warning people about this ever since.

[@jisukim5333]

Funny thing: unless you are native American, you all are either immigrants or descendents of immigrants

[@sanket834]

Let me put it this way. H1B are more productive and more skilled than average American. They are crucial for startups and entire google maybe built on H1B.People don't understand temporary workers are over 10 times critical than Americans in the job market.Every American a H1B replaces, the same worker will help hire more than 10 American workers. In short U wouldn't have had Google, Netflix, FaceBook ,Amazon if it weren't for cheap skilled workers.

[@sanket834]

Literally, Immigrants are the first spark for startups. Keep this in mind, and due to the visa ban, hundreds are suffering right now. Thanks trump for killing startups. If u want source for these I suggest visiting uscics and their immigration summary.

[@camiloguzman1801]

The US is the most dependent country in foreign talent and human capital, next to Germany. Doing this is shooting on one's foot.

[@ryanhope7662]

Cananda, yes. China...those workers are not moving to China, lol

[@terrybatman]

If china can pay people will move. Simple

[@rodneydsouza2454]

No they do move to china, Shanghai and Hong Kong are attract lot of foriegn workers. Right now the immigration is less but that could change anytime in the future

[@cy9987]

not to mention tens of thousands of Chinese grad students/postdocs trained in the US. If the US doesn't offer them opportunities they would just happily take the IP and go back to HUAWEI lol

[@boogeyman2036]

Not everyone cares about fictitious ideas such as freedom, especially those who are smart enough to understand how the world works.

[@shreevatsalamborghin]

Who wants to eat bat soup in Shenzhen

[@vinniemascaro6649]

Some of our history was built by foreigners... but we play with the word "foreigners" and "immigration" in that the old world was US... Europeans and such. Once that establishment was constructed.. the current form of immigration is mainly 3rd world, poor living. SO what would make a country think people who LACK things, would be candidates to BUILD something. Would you hire a carpenter with no tools? Would you allow a man to cut you open with no medical degree/certification? Yet we go brain dead when it comes to common sense thinking. Immigration today is ONLY benefiting the IMMIGRANT, they are not returning any vital roles. working jobs americans don't want to do is not A GOOD THING. It means the job probably shouldn't exist. BUt it also doesn't stop there and they then get the jobs that are not being mentioned that they CLEARLY shouldn't.

[@erniecho]

I would vote Trump to ban H1 visa forever.