Can this 13 Year Old Gaming PC Survive today’s games!?

This Gaming PC is complete and cost less than $250 to build... but can you even play games on it reliably?
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[@tobiaskoning115]

The most mind-blowing thing in this video is the fact that kids from 2008 are now 12/13

[@thiccnoodles8469]

Whut?

[@rollin340]

Kids born in 2000 are fully grown 21 year old adults this year. Edit: They're not kids anymore. xD

[@gabbypalang]

can confirm

[@stonalisa3729]

@@rollin340 yep. My 21st is coming up :)

[@rollin340]

@@stonalisa3729 I feel old. xD I hope you have a good birthday. :)

[@h.l-a683]

A barely 5 hour old video With subtitles ? The deaf and hearing impeared community thanks you! Seriously tho Jay. Thank you ♡

[@LePedant]

I think you can have KZbin auto generate subtitles on all video's now. It's not always accurate since it uses speech recognition software, but it's still awesome. I have a hard time hearing voices, and prefer CC to be on.

[@urbypilot2136]

@@LePedant Yes you can. But it takes hours upon hours, even with videos that have clear, well enunciated audio.

[@LePedant]

@@urbypilot2136 From what I understand it uses the same software that Google uses for voice to text on Android. So, the translation should be instant.

[@urbypilot2136]

@@LePedant Not from my experience making videos for clients. It will start as soon as the video is uploaded, but the subs will still take time to complete and be available to view. The new captioning feature on Premiere Pro is a lot faster. But then again, my clients' videos are Unlisted and for internal use only. So they probably get the least priority with the subtitling servers, compared to Public (and monetized videos). 🤷‍♀️

[@LePedant]

@@urbypilot2136 I just Googled it, and they have 2 versions, one for live streams and one for VOD. The VOD takes time but is more accurate.

[@con4609]

I think the reason Doom didn't run is because it requires an instruction set that the cpu doesn't support. It's something to watch out for when buying old cpus, even high performance ones.

[@carbon_no6]

As Jay has said before: who cares if it’s laggy or slow, if you don’t own a computer now, you’re not able to load or play anything anyway!

[@christopherkidwell9817]

Who cares? People like myself who have played games at 20-30 fps and realize how crappy an experience it is.

[@user-sx6rm9uu7q]

He played it for 10 minutes and got bored. Imagine playing it for years.

[@supersaiyaman11589]

@@christopherkidwell9817 given a choice between 4 k or 60 fps i would chose the 4 k option in video games. i play pc games and even i cant say i see a deference betwean 30 fps and 60 fps

[@Sleepymazda999]

This comment is so not the right take lmao

[@Sleepymazda999]

@@supersaiyaman11589 you don’t play enough especially competitive. 30-60 is a huge difference. You can see its stuttering and lagging. Even 60fps you can see how how slow the game moves.

[@LucasJodokast]

this old content is great, getting newish titles to run well on old hardware is always satisfying to watch

[@Sleepymazda999]

Cs:go is newish rocket league are newish? Lmao

[@orensGT]

I love how you manage to come up with good and original material at a time when there isn't that much

[@themightypizzadevourer6018]

Fr lol, still waiting for that engine pc part 2 though

[@Jeff-fr4ts]

The channel dawidoestechstuff is really good and he buys a ton of old or weird stuff and try’s to game on it

[@themightypizzadevourer6018]

@@Jeff-fr4ts oh yeah I know the guy, he's really funny

[@MaxUmbra]

@@Jeff-fr4ts I love dawid man his videos are really great fun

[@salty1994]

RandomGaminginHD. He is very entertaining and viable. I like his stance on old hardware. Especially the common folk like us who cant afford high end.

[@CakePrincessCelestia]

2:46 "My Little Homie" totally caught me off guard :D 12:47 Jay: "ReAlLy OlD hArDwArE" Clint Basinger entered the chat. "Greedings!"

[@DoctorX17]

Mmm, green glow gaming

[@2009numan]

It actually makes a pleasant change to see you looking at older hardware instead of high end gear

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

Would be interesting how his older skunkworks configurations would do in todays games. His triple GTX 780 SLI from back then would be quite a show. Yesterdays high end is todays used budget.

[@FunFactsAboutTech]

@@HappyBeezerStudios still running this setup with a 4930k. Graphical performance about on par with a laptop rtx3080 or a desktop 3060/3060ti at a push

[@maugod6972]

@@FunFactsAboutTech what?

[@FunFactsAboutTech]

@@maugod6972 what?

[@WellBeSerious12]

Only because GPUs.

[@chibicascade]

also, I'd love to see games running on modern integrated graphics systems

[@tadsnyder2756]

Now this is an interesting idea

[@jacobvriesema6633]

I was still rocking a GTX960 with 4GB VRAM and 8GB RAM up until a couple months ago. Although I couldn’t play all games on high, it wasn’t horrible.

[@Wertyhappy27]

Ive been using an rx 560 4gb vram, with 8gb ram, with a ryzen 3 2300x cpu, so super low end, and now since prices dropped, got the radeon 6600 and a ryzen 5 5600x

[@AJ-jz5eq]

8:23 and that's the reason why Jay is still married

[@Chibibowa]

Underrated comment.

[@stephenwoods74]

Hahahaha

[@CyberSystemOverload]

Lmao!

[@kanishka.b8550]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@mamapapa5860]

is that why heather left? aww it burns...

[@rishabhrawat02]

Me watching on my 15 yr old pentium 4. Still alive and kicking.

[@javierortiz82]

My Pentium 4 is at least 17 y/o, my mom bought it second hand, its my first pc and still works just fine, unfortunately is one of the first pentium 4, the mobo only has PCI and IDE ports, so I'm stuck with my lovely MX4000 on that and no ssd.

[@codfish1113]

I’m watching on an AM2 Athlon 64 (an X2 5600+). At 1080p. It works but I need the help of h264ify. Threw a SSD and a wifi card, and it runs as well as a $300 el cheapo laptop.

[@wrbuchanan]

@@codfish1113 same gang

[@EmergencyChannel]

Can a Pentium 4 even handle KZbin over 480p? My core2duo from the early 00's was pinned at 100% watching KZbin.

[@opiniononion919]

why? You can get a MUCH faster PC for pretty cheap... a 3rd to 5th gen i5 PC should be available for around 50 bucks, maybe get a GT 750 or something like that for the same money and you can play at least some games. I was able to play Cyberpunk on my server (2x Xeon X5690 128GB RAM) with a Quadro K4000. Just don't crank resolution up to the max and you should be fine. 1366x768 is what I use. My PC got a i5 8500 (around 50€) and a GTX 970 (I paid 150 for it, but that was a few years ago) and I can play more or less any game I want on ultra. Yes, even Cyberpunk 2077. You don't need to spend 1000€+ on a PC to be able to game on it. If you go AMD/ATI you could probably whack a decent PC together for around 300€.

[@JasonSpick]

Has anyone mentioned trying to get some physical arcade machines? Build one? Tournament? Phil would need a milk crate to stand on.

[@cimathieulemieux696]

I'd appreciate a video, or series of videos, to actually understanding how GPUs and video games interact so we can learn how to optimize our GPU performance for better gaming. Especially useful considering some of us may be relying on older hardware.

[@kanedNunable]

id like a video explaining all the nvidia control panel settings, some are a bit confusing.

[@toastynotes]

Hmm I know you've talked a lot about hiding messy cables but I wish you did a video where you actually bought the clips, catches, sleeves, etc and showed each solution in action on a desk

[@edigsfox]

Jayz2cents making a video for us who didn't win the giveaway

[@thedenimmage2854]

Yeah I definitely checked my email three times that day lol

[@GianniRips]

Jay, you’re looking at current auction prices on eBay. If you filter by “buy now” you will see that sellers are actually asking over 100 dollars for a GTX 950.

[@TheCRTProductions]

I was laughing my butt off at that in his last video, and he did it again! Prob good that he doesnt use ebay though and get ripped off by greedy sellers on there

[@mouseboyx]

Definitely, some out there for $150-$200 if you buy from a seller that accepts returns.

[@yahyasajid5113]

Which is why you never buy with the buy it now option, wait a week or two by bidding until you land a good deal, bought 3 GPUs from eBay auctions ranging from £40 below BIN to £100 below BIN, and these are all 6-7 year old GPUs (Maxwell/Hawaii era)

[@WithdrawalFX]

I saw a gtx 980 on a local used-goods site advertised for 599 euro. A 1080 for 800 euro and a 2070 for 990 euro. Blew my mind.

[@Hirokuro_Asura]

Current prices on GT750 (not Ti!) are close to 100$ in the shops, not on a FU (formerly used) market...

[@insanity-vr6vu]

I had to use a q6600 when my mobo died, it got me into overclocking and I was really impressed with it’s performance in this day and age

[@Wr4ptor]

Still want to see the really old school gaming hardware, from when the first 3D cards came out. VooDoo series, Riva TNT cards.. back when you had to actually set up your IRQ and DMA manually! :D

[@Knaeckebrotsaege]

Might wanna take a look at PhilsComputerLab

[@CalebSussy]

"I'm playing way below my rank" What's below bronze?

[@AndrewKellyLuthier]

Ask Linus.

[@pneumonoultramicroscopicsi4065]

Iron

[@theSato]

iron

[@pgplaysvidya]

wood tier @viva la dirt league

[@mrmadunit3923]

flint no wait nuckle

[@BenConsolegamer]

That samir reference killed me hahaha. Loved the video man so entertaining!

[@BenConsolegamer]

@@garyhope6577 right 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@s8nbre]

I wanted to hear "Jay, you are breaking the PC!" after all those game crashes lol

[@MusicStudent1]

Retro gaming is a blast. I’m still rocking my 2008 Gateway desktop running XP. T-72, Mechwarrior 4, Armored Fist 3, Tron 2.0, etc. I’m not sure they even make games like that any more.

[@SirChaosS]

seeing these "retro" type videos, really makes me wanna do the challenge i have for myself: Build 2 PCs and compare them to each other. the 1st being the performance "equivalent" of my first ever PC, (which with all the different chip skus out there really makes it tough) and 2 that matches the COST of that 1st PC ($2,032.87) to "show" how far the range in price to performance has evolved.

[@villerat86]

Still rocking a asus crosshair 3, with am3 6 core, ddr3, and a msi 580 card.. still working and still getting the job done.

[@bobjones9614]

yeah phenom 1055T here on a gigabyte 880G ud3h 12g ddr3,1060 3g or rx 470 4g going strong.!0 years old and still play's what i play at 1080p.eveonline,black desert,wow etc

[@ffwast]

I had that setup, it's hot in your room isn't it?

[@bobjones9614]

@@ffwast in the summer can be but overall be no diff having intel now days

[@ahmetikbal8652]

Upgrade your cpu if you can. It is a huge bottleneck and some games wont even launch because phenom cpus lack some intruction sets.

[@bobjones9614]

yeah avx and sse 4.2.I don't have a problem with that for what i play . The gpu's yeah i knew they be bottlenecked day i bought them. rx 470,280x,1060's was bought for dual purpose back before this mining boom ie mining eth,zcash 2016-2018 and folding (was very profitable back in 2018) I am waiting for ddr5 before i blow any cash on a new rig.See where the chips lay for upgrade paths for amd platform then

[@BurkeSchneider]

Keep it up Jay, this is the type of conent we love!

[@glfrjack]

Customer: "I'm on an old blah blah blah, blah blah blah." Jay: "So have you heard of Dirt 2.0?"

[@christophermullins7163]

What a beautiful game. Just got it running on my asus turbo 1080 on 1080p.. lovely sight to behold.

[@lanoche]

But a 1080 on a 1080p isn't something to write about. I use a GTX 1080 on a 1440p monitor and still run max settings on some modern games at a decent 60-100 fps. The GTX 1080 card is still a beast.

[@klarahfenderson1374]

@@lanoche The 10xx series cards are awesome the same way the 2xx series was. (Yeah, I'm old.)

[@richscott2483]

in May 2008, DIY build. Intel E8500 (replaced by Q9650), Gigabyte GA-X48T-DQ6, Zalman ZM850-HP 850w power supply, Zalman CNPS9500-AT cpu fan, OCZ3P20004GK DDR3 2000MHz 4 GB Kit Platinum, Seagate 2tb 7,600rpm sata hdd, Thermaltake Armor Plus VH6000SWA Silver Aluminum ATX Full Tower Computer Case. GPU's originally started with ATI Radeon HD3870's in Xfire config. later replaced with HD 6870's. Still works, replaced the HD6870's with one R9-280X, Pioneer DVR-215D optical drive. Last time used the system was in 2014. Guess have either Windows 7 or 8.1 cost to build was close to $1,600 and with the ACER P243W 2ms gtg 24 inch monitor of $400 makes it $2,000. I still use the ACER P243W nearly everyday or average 300 days out of 365 per year and works like the day I bought it. Logitech Internet Keyboard, Logitech mouse, Logitech 2.1 sound bar. Linksys/Cisco AE2500 USB Network Adapter. Plantronics Audio 955H headset. Yes! I know I have DDR2 sitting around with a little bit older motherboard. I have a 2002 Compaq Presario 5423US that uses PATA Drives and think it has a PNY GeForce 7600GS AGP not PCIe. Before that was 2001 Compaq Presario 7000T with Pentium 4 1.4GHz Williamette 478 socket and the worse kind of memory was RAMBUS and Windows ME. The best OS of them all is Windows XP Pro. Worse OS of all time is Windows 10 for all the Spyware, Adware, Malware and hidden stuff that Microsoft imbedded in Windows 10, if MS kept their noses clean and not steal your Privacy then yes! Windows 10 would be ranked #2 behind Win XP. Oh! Apple, MS, Spectrum, Verizon, Comcast and many large corporations have negotiated with the U.S. Government and foreign gov'ts to send everything they can about you. You have zero privacy and nothing is confidential. COVID-19 is a conspiracy. CDC and WHO, U.S., Russia and China and other gov'ts planned the greatest hoax of all time. Got to make people fear the wealthy and powerful. Income inequality at the largest gap ever. Rich get wealthier and Poor become poorer. Don't forget about racial tension - divide and conquer also the U.S 2nd Amendment "the right to bear arms" but they trying to take that away so unable to defend ourselves. Before the Great Recession the stock market was around 13,000 points and a decade later over 35,000 points at various times. A lot of people (maybe around 10 million) do not have jobs or family supportive jobs , less middle class and add a few into the top 10 percent while more have fallen into poverty. When the stock market crashes, people lose jobs and when it recovers many never get their jobs back. What's wrong with the system? Don't worry, Get even!

[@FerralVideo]

This system is only one generation newer than the first PC I solo built. (E8400, GT9600) Which has needed some repairs over the years, but still works to this day. Him putting a GTX 950 or an RX 570 in there is something I NEVER considered doing to my old system, as I was bumping into some bottleneck issues in some games with a freaking GTX 470 in that thing.

[@roobigol]

This is actually the build I am making, appreciate the insight

[@Sluglugy0890]

Thank you Jay, as said above it’s awesome that you are able to find new ways to continue to entertain us. I haven’t been watching for long but I’ve watched SO many of your videos already. You are by far my favorite tech tuber!!!

[@wingwong8304]

You should make a video on what is the oldest Hardware you can use today you should make three categories low-end titles/workload mid-range titles/ workload high-end titles/ harder workload

[@dralord1307]

That all comes down to what you want to play tbh. You could still use an Apple E-2 if you used the old programs. I have a 11year old 1090T system that has 16gigs of ram and a get 1060 in it, it will run most things fine. "My wife and daughter use it, mostly for sims and minecraft"

[@rubyvolt]

I taught computer tech class and to show the history I took a PII-400 and had it booting from DOS 6/Win 3.1, 95, 98 and XP. Watching it load XP was painful. You never saw 3.1 load so fast.

[@Romess1]

The most mind-blowing part is that this pc just spec obliterates my first high-end pc which still feels like I got it in fairly recent memory (X2 3800+/1GB DDR400/X1900XTX). That's back when 5:4 and 4:3 monitors were still mainstream and most people still had CRT's

[@rotomon]

I still remember upgrading from a Core 2 duo and a 9800gt to an i5 and a 1070 then to a i9 and a 2080ti such a crazy jump each time.

[@tonyczesnowski2501]

I jumped from fx 9590 & 970sli to a Ryzen 9 and RTX 3070 so i feel you

[@fischkino1891]

I got a i5 750 from 2009 and a GTX 680, so it's pretty darn close to that system... Gaming is possible ;)

[@thealien_ali3382]

Upgrade the CPU to a i7 u should be able to shove in a 1060, av seen people use that combo and it fairs well

[@adamlw7181]

i have an i5 2500k abd sli 580 msi lightning in my hol home and it used to be amazing at running bf3 but for some reason its stuggles on that game. I believe these firms corrupt the older card with their drivers out of spite and greed.

[@grandmackdady]

i run just about the same thing only i'm using a xeon e5450 3ghz quad modded to work in a lga775 motherboard and 8gb ram. my cpu and motherboard are from 2007 and my gpu is a gtx 750 ti lol

[@jblps]

it just works

[@fischkino1891]

Actually I just got into overclocking. Future will tell how that's gonna work and what performance upgrade will show

[@sicorange3]

Man I feel your pain... between the 'tinker' terms and 'not for cheap' on the ddr2 memory. Got a 2009 build sitting in the closet, wanna revive it enough for Minecraft for my kids... but it only has 2x2gb ram. Same exact ram is still going for $90 new...

[@wolfsta90]

I have a laptop with a 1650. 1080p 60hz. All I need and love it.

[@itpugil]

Built a Q8400 + HD6670 as an HTPC, played Castlevania 1, killer is dead, batman arkham asylum, darksiders on 4GB DDR2 TeamElite RAM. Of course @720p. Binging these old hardware series you have going on!

[@weasle76]

Gaming on old hardware is fun! I've got a HP XW6600, twin Xeon E5450, 32Gb DDR2 ram, GTX 950. I run Asseto Corsa, Wreckfest, Beam NG, and edit vids in Davinci Resolve. Still does it all perfectly well! I also have the exact Gigabyte mobo, CPU and ram that is being used in this vid too!

[@alteregos8949]

“Don’t recommend you go out and buy this setup” Any real gamer has one or two of these boxes collecting dust in the closet or corner and don’t need to buy any of it. I’ve still got my first 80/486 DX2 66 in the closet for nostalgic reasons. Heck i’ve even got a ViC=20 and C=64 and 128 too!

[@twitchyg1373]

I'd love to see him show old phenoms and athlon x4 like a 640

[@JamesAdams84]

YAY for Older hardware! I'm still rocking an old system and have no problems playing WoW or World of Warships! AMD FX8350 (AM3+ Socket) 8core 4.3GHz Corsair H45 Liquid CPU Cooler 120mm AIO Asus Sabertooth 990FX r2.0 mobo 16Gb (4 x 4Gb) DDR3 PC3-10700 Corsair 667MHz ram Asus GeForce GTX950 Stryx 2Gb Antec GX500 Case 2x 120mm front Noctua NF-S12A fan 1x 120mm top stock fan 90mm rear Noctua NF-B9 redux-1600 fan

[@VolaTM]

Trust Jay to choose 3 really well optimised games. Would have been nice to see this hardware run higher end games, which again is possible.

[@lyndonbauer1703]

@12:50

[@Metaljacket420]

I've had the Thermaltake Intermittent Power before, don't recommend.

[@lukeperryglover]

You know it's old when Jay can't remember how much ram is in it and needs to double check :P

[@theigpugamer]

In 2021 a gtx 1050 ti costs more than $250 lol 😂😅

[@cmdrhersin592]

Yep i bought my 4 years ago for 150 lol still waiting dor 30 series stock.

[@hkuowwpw9557]

@@cmdrhersin592 we got it here in india haha

[@bobjones9614]

still better off finding a 280X .it 25% ~ faster and it from 2013

[@Seuss00]

@@hkuowwpw9557 Same here in the Philippines but damn they're just expensive.

[@Beetlejuicer]

And the Rx 580 8GB is around $500-$600

[@SirReptitious]

As has always been the case ever since windows became mainstream, the #1 requirement is RAM! No amount of CPU or GPU power can compensate for lack of RAM. Stick 8GB of DDR2 in that thing(16GB would be a waste if it even supports that much) and it would be "okay". Next hurdle is CPU instructions. The older the CPU the more likely it will lack an instruction that is commonly used now.. Then comes the GPU, which they already addressed just fine. And last is storage speed, which they also addressed. You can get a 500GB SATA SSD for pretty damn cheap now. As long as you stick to the older PC games someone could still have a lot of fun on that system. And if you are willing to expand your gaming horizons, you can get into retro gaming! That system would easily run old arcade games, NES, SNES, Genesis, and maybe even PS1 and N64. And you can download all those old games for free, and they take up so little space!

[@maxthe15]

I'd love to see some random watercooling stuff, like "dumbest idea ever" with the 480x480 rad. loved that one

[@CarthagoMike]

Build your dream PC from when you were a teenager!

[@IAT1964]

I used a 2007 build with Win XP until 2018 until my motherboard failed. Worked fine for the games I was running. This frenzy of constant upgrades are often just a ruse for consumerism.

[@grahamwilliamson5306]

My son's currently gaming on an fx6300 which is 1 year older then he is. It does actually really well with an aftermarket cooler running it to a 4.3ghz OC. Considering I got it for free (except the 1050ti and 240ssd ) it's an insanely good gaming pc for the price

[@logiarhythm6285]

Funny seeing this now, when I finally found a second hand machine that is going to replace my i5-2300 after 10 years ^^

[@Baleur]

Playing on 120 fps "im on a frame jittery mess!" Kidding me?

[@feralcapitalist2527]

finally, a review of my exact current main gaming desktop in 2021! awesome! "its an old piece of shit" oh dear..

[@rstvproductions8334]

DDR2 is still available here in the UK. Costs anything between £2.40 to £5, but probably not worth getting as the postage will be expensive.

[@brandonscott1768]

I’m doing a sleeper build in a case very similar to the one you have in this video. I would really enjoy seeing what you would do to that case to make it more compatible with new tech. It’s been quite the challenge for me, especially in terms of cooling.

[@MoneyMager]

Jay: It can run some titles! Me: didnt it crash after everything?

[@ReclusiveEagle]

The funny thing is its often not the 10+ year old CPU holding back most PCs. Its DDR3 & SATA 2. Otherwise you could play even the newest titles maxed out

[@SpuriousECG]

The thing with old hardware is you can play no shortage of old games on them. Plenty of great classics out there that deserve to be experienced. Some might even run better on period relevant hardware than current systems :D

[@Austn8r]

"Starting to feel less bad for people with old computers." I'd like to see him daily drive that for like a month, save for his streams, and see what his opinion is then. Some people want their computers to be able to do more, and not just graphically.

[@-Turner-]

Couple of ideas for topics for your consideration; 1. How to set up for twitch streaming pc or consoles. (Can be searched but could be interesting) 2. VR gaming, what is needed hardware/space wise, is it worth it? (Again, could be searched, but potentially hilarious if you do a vid)

[@TheEndlessslawter]

That feeling when your system is only a few years younger than this one..

[@kings_nemesis5995]

My 20 plus year old laptop laughs at how this pc crashes yet I've never had a game crash on me

[@animerestoration2701]

Your laptop from before the year 2000? What exactly are you running? Oregon Trail? Lmaooo

[@jenrosejenrose7417]

Look, the 950 is circa 2015 and I had a 4g mobile version in my laptop and it was running modern games until literally this year.

[@shadowy772]

brings back memories. I had a system with 8gb of ddr2 just 5-6 months ago and i"m still rocking a gtx 560 ti

[@ghomerhust]

OTHER OLD HARDWARE IDEAS: getting old prebuilt office machines, like dell optiplex and hp pro boxes and seeing how they handle gaming if you can add a gpu or something. you can easily find older i7 boxes like that for a hundred bucks ready to roll, just sprinkle a cheap gpu and see how they do

[@brendonlaucheekeong636]

My old Feb 2009 built PC is using the 4th motherboard and survive with Intel Core 2 duo E8500(Gaming Beast), DDR 3-8gb Dual channel 1066mhz, Intel G41 Express Chipset from afox motherboard, 2TB harddisk 7200rpm, Window 7 -64bit. Enjoy watching youtube 1080p, Charging mobile phone & powerbank using the USB 2, Play online Dota 2, Call of duty, light gaming old pc games,etc.

[@MrDQguy]

My rig is from 2009ish. i7 920 with a RX 580 (was hd 5870 until two years ago) and still rocking aaa games

[@bitelaserkhalif]

G41 mainboard (which is the most common thing to see with 775 system like this and this day) is one of Achilles heel. OC past 340 FSB: black screen.

[@WraithWTF]

These old hardware "can-it-run" videos are pretty fun...you should try going back further on the GPU generations though, see what still works with stuff from the GTX 500, 600, or 700 series...pretty sure I still have an old GTX 560 Ti sitting around somewhere, I'm willing to send it in if it'll help.

[@SlayrKris]

I am so glad I managed to buy a Rx580 before the "everything" went down. If I do manage to get something along the way, I will gift it to my older brother, he wants to build a PC for the first time as well.

[@Dragonorder18]

I've upgraded my PC 2 times since I got it around 10 years ago. Once with a bit extra memory that didn't quite kick in till I installed Win 10. And the second being the Graphics card upgrade to a GTX 1070. (The GPU being upgraded as one of a paired set of cards stopped working from a piece of the mount latch getting pulled, but has been working better just with the one card replacing them both.) Seems a well built PC like this can certainly last long and well if treated well.

[@haydenw8691]

This is pretty much the PC I built 4 years ag to get back into PC gaming, except with a Core 2 Quad based Xeon x5460 at 3.16ghz stock. Even with an overclock, that CPU bottle necked the GTX 950. Definitely recommend paring that card with at least an i5 2400 if you can.

[@johnhoogstra8310]

I still use my "first build" from 2014. Did some upgrades through the years. Different case, All SSD now, new speakers and upgraded to a 1080. Now i got rid of the case and build the motherboard into an alex desk cabinet and build the power button and usb into the desktop. I dont feel the need for bigger upgrades but I do enjoy the videos of the high end build! :-)

[@wfhaselbarg]

Still gaming on a X58 system running a I7 920, Its overclocked to 3800Mhz and still can run most games with decent FPS. GPU is a GTX 1080

[@Aaphree]

I'm on an OG Titan and it still does pretty well as long as I don't try to play any AAA fps games from recent years. Have to use my Series X for any recent fps game though

[@majeds74]

My PC is 10 years old from 2012 "Intel i7-3960x" with upgraded GPU "GTX 1080 TI". Most of the games are on Ultra Settings + 2K + 60Hz with no problem. I'm upgrading nowadays to I9-12900k with Asus Maximus Z690 Extreme but stuck with the old GPU.

[@MasterAlucardSotn]

I just updated my 9-year-old pc to a Ryzen 7 3800x 16GB corsair ram vengeance and an Asus Tuf X570 motherboard gotta say I'm pleased with it i used some of my old hardware like my SATA drive and my Asrock Rx 590 works great.

[@takaharu]

How about mix & match? For those who were able to get a new of every component except GPU, pop a 950 or 980 in there.

[@Music-pl8xf]

I am still gaming on a I7 2600K Chip. Had to upgrade the Video Card to RX580. It runs a lot of stuff with minimal probs. I will build a new PC when we start seeing some stable Video Card Prices. 2nd Gen means around 8 years old.

[@georgefoley9793]

This is a fantastic video! I still have my old PC running AMD Phenom II X6 with 16gb of DDR3, and it is still a perfectly capable home computer that can handle older games just fine plus any regular computing tasks.

[@pollisoong]

11:45 when i started play that was 2005. here come speccs those years ago. P3 800mhz, 320mb ram, and a geforce 440mx 64mb :D and about 2x40gb drives with goodies. yeah that was minimum requirements. imagine enter ogrimmar city with that. bit movement, loading some, and repeat

[@toma-st1jy]

My daily driver pc and only pc's specs are: GT620 Core I5 4670 16gb of DDR3 and a 500 gig ssd, and the legendary 4k optical drive!

[@alejandrocanadasgomez8701]

I have one of this computers with an phenom II x6 and a 7770 to play my old games. I love It

[@gerasmus]

Recently installed SSD + Radeon RX 580 on similar spec CPU, used Steam on Linux Mint, and worked fine! Toned down gfx, machine was perfectly useable (for a kid) for games prior to 2012. And it still looks good. SSD made huge difference.

[@mocomike01]

Just an fyi, for the Redux ad you mention " no parts markup...". The configurator has the Rtx 3070 listed for $855. That seems "marked up" at least from MSRP.

[@erdragh]

Nobody I know plays rocket league on settings this high, even on high end PCs. We put the game as low as possible except for render resolution (because it looks like crap) and maybe texture resolution. Transparent goal posts are also a must have. Other than that, go as low as possible. That’s how I play it, on 2700x and 2070. rocket league is weird because the more FPS the more often it checks your input, so the best settings for rocket league are the lowest, so you get the highest possible frame rates and therefore the snappiest response. Also with the bluescreen, my so also has that problem on her laptop with an i7, 16Gb ram and mx250.

[@MCP647]

I'm still rocking an Intel i7 980, paired with a GTX 1070ti at 1440p and it's fairly decent. CPU bottleneck fairly often, but the GPU utilization tends to stay above 92%.

[@trouty7947]

Fx-8350, 16gb ddr3, gtx 970 on a 990XA and some SSD's ran fine for me, even did red dead on a bit above low settings 1080P. Using it as a PLEX/unRaid machine now. Was tempted to sell the 970 but after having a GPU scare I realized how handy it can be having *something* that can at least output a display lol.

[@charlesbuchanan3146]

I would like to see how an older 6 core like 4930k or 3930k compares to a newer 6 core, such as an ryzen 2600/3600 or i5 10600/11600

[@XerxezsX]

I5-2300 2.8ghz here($183) with the Intel stock cooler, built it in April 2012, 8GB of DDR3 1333 Ram($45), originally I had the Radeon HD 6870, upgraded in 2014 to a GTX 1060 for $169.99 new, Crucial 120GB SSD($120), Cooler Master 500watt 80+ bronze Power supply. Upgraded to windows 10 free. I built this system to play World of Warcraft, heroes of the storm, hearthstone, etc. It's 2021, I came back to WoW TBC Classic and the system performs flawlessly. Medium to high settings on wow 60fps locked, perfect. I wish I had bought 16GB of memory because if I open 20+ windows on chrome while I'm gaming I get chrome to freeze because not enough memory. If I were to go back and spend a little more on my system I would #1, gotten a premium power supply like 650w-750w 80+ at least platinum, this will last 15-30 years? Forever? Gotten 16GB of ram instead of 8GB(8GB was enough back then). I should have doubled my ssd capacity to at least 240GB, and lastly I should have spent the money on a 1080ti or at least a 1070ti. Moral of the story, build an over kill system for gaming and "future proof" in 10 years it will save you from upgrades which will cost you extra money. My plan now is to wait for Black Friday sales, get at least a 1000w titanium psu, a 5950x at $$600-700, ($719 micro center now), The norm is 32GB of ram, I would go 64 GB of ram, 2 TB of nvme's, and the noctua nhd 15 cooler. The graphics card, ideally the 3080 is "future" proof but prices and availability, who knows, I'll stick to the 1060 for now.

[@musamba101]

That reminds me of the first boutique rig I ever had made for me back in 2008. But yours is better. :-) The geek that built my rig cheaped out on my video card and the CPU (it was only a dual core!).

[@Avicorn]

I used one of this until last year. They a dirt-cheap. If PSU and motherboard are decent, quad-core Xeon E54xx processors are overclockable between to 3.5-3.7 with Intel stock cooler. System memory could be up to 8GB. Used DDR2 800 2GB sticks are common. This isn't great, not terrible. Modern titles would probably crash due to lack of SSE3 support and low IPC, yet single player AAA games from like 2015-ish - playable at 720p

[@WickedRibbon]

Jay touched on it, but you should DEFINITELY cap your framerate when using an old/weak CPU like this. This'll significantly improve your frame times, helping to make games feel much smoother. Just grab RivaTuner and set a cap in the comfortable range for each game. E.g. If Rocket League runs at 90-130 FPS, try a cap of 90. If you've got more headroom, bump it up to 100, or use that budget to increase some graphical options. It's all about finding that GPU-CPU sweetspot 😎

[@Ha1rD1aper]

older higher end 2nd gen intel and AMD Bulldozer CPUs can still be alright with 8GB-16GB RAM, a 2GB-4GB GPU, and a good 500mb/s SSD. some games are starting to require things like AVX instructions and can run into issues without them. both AMD and Intel started using them by 2012, so try for post 2012 used hardware, if in dire need.

[@davidg5898]

I'm all for exploring old hardware like this, but next time can you do with a system that actually works? Testing a system with a dying NIC and what appears to be bad RAM doesn't exactly give us a realistic expectation of performance.

[@getsideways7257]

Exactly. Also, could have been at least a 970 or 960...

[@xinsanedefeatx]

My rig from 2008 lasted ~9yrs. Wish I knew the specs, all I know is it was a high end rig when bought. It kept chugging along, ran everything that worked on 32bit systems. Nail in the coffin was once my buddies started playing 64bit games... Yeah I didn't game for about 2.5yrs

[@NathanWilkie]

There is the 100% sidestep which is playing old old games like from the 80's and 90's which is what I've been doing. Quest For Glory is one of my favorite series of all times and it's been fun playing through those. Don't need anything super modern to run it. Going back to a game that you couldn't play because you didn't have the hardware, or were playing with subpar hardware at the time can also be a lot of fun. Put an MT-32 emulator (for sound) on some of those old adventure games and it's a completely new experience. Pretty much most modern adventure games have low CPU GPU by today's standards and it's easy to spend 20-30 hours playing through an old series. Also looking through the old steam library it can be surprising to see what you got as part of a bundle in the 00's.

[@Chittysushi]

11:45 I know this game could totally play World of Warcraft classic and The Burning Crusade remakes if using "classic" video settings but you're spot on for retail. I tried playing retail with a GTX 1070 and an Intel 6800k and the best I can do is 7/10 on the slider with 30-60 fps but that's also on 4k lol. Drop it down to 1080p and I'm sure it's a solid 60 fps.

[@Baromanthefool]

Look at that DVD drive bay