2009 Expensive PC vs 2019 Budget PC - BENCHMARKED!

Today we decided to perform the 10 year challenge using high end hardware from 2009 vs entry level hardware from 2019. Just how far have we come in technology?!
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[@hasnihossainsami8375]

"How far computers have come" - no. "How much computers have changed" - nope. "How far computers have changed" - JayzTwoCents, 2019

[@jeffsadowski9244]

*JayzTwoIDigressCents

[@JesseDeya]

Now you're just splitting nit-picks.

[@AB-fz9rz]

I remember in this vid where he said the long picture instead of "the long run" or "the big picture"

[@EverPaintP]

I remember I started to play on PC back in 1989 with an XT motherboard, a CPU that had 4.77MHz (MHZ!!!) in turbo mode with DS DD floppy drives, 20MB HDD and I think it had 256kbyte memory if I remember well, and yeah...the good old Norton Commander :)

[@norm1233]

It's too bad that's not a quote anyone's going to remember except your lame ass.

[@Vexiong]

2009 PC Seller on FB and EBay: “$500 firm, built this for $1100 new” Parents: “wow great Christmas gift”

[@Sup3r87]

Getindor I’m saving and researching for a new PC because I can’t stand my MacBook Air lol

[@TheNewGeneration-wh4kr]

@@getgle I mean I won't complain if they get me new mac pro lol

[@tsdobbi]

Resellers are totally trying to fleece clueless people. My wife is going back to school for computer science, so I wanted to get her a new PC and Im like I'll check FB marketplace. See if I can get an older gaming PC. Jesus Christ. I saw an i7 960 based system with everything like 9-10 years old in it for SEVEN HUNDRED DOLLARS...."no haggling". Every system I friggin saw was overpriced and were all like "no haggling". I just built her a brand new system for 700 dollars total.

[@jaalan7896]

@@tsdobbi Yea, Its seems like people dont realize that they are selling garbage. If I were to sell my current PC I would only expect 700 and I just built it around 7 months ago.

[@Yomom12388]

Vex “No lowballs, I know what I have!”

[@Salim_OW]

Hardware improvments per year: +2% Price increase per year: +50%

[@dasvintage2182]

This aged well

[@TheGeneralkrank]

So this video is really a 2009 mid tier pc vs 2019 mid tier pc

[@bigdisme5622]

yea kinda pissed me off with this half ass comparison. He should have used top tier to top tier. He could of gotten a proper 2009 machine that was functional with a PROPER 2009 monitor and compared it to a top tier new computer. Really a dog shit video.

[@needlessoptions]

Mid tier 2008 system lol

[@realerst3537]

@@bigdisme5622 calm down dude

[@bigdisme5622]

@@realerst3537 jelly?

[@juicecan6450]

i usually love jay more that other techtubers but videos like this remind me that even he cant think outside of his first world box. an NVMe vs a 7200RPM HDD...as if that wasnt bad enough he got a GTX1650 which was completely unnecessary as not only you do have an APU, the vega chip is also not far behind the 1650, which makes the extra purchase itself questionable. And as for a 2009 system, as the others have pointed out,I feel like Jay didnt want to pay for an X58 board so he got an older core2quad. Might be asking for too much but an i7 X 990 or 980 wouldve really shown how well that gen has aged

[@Icureditwithmybrain]

2009 Top of the line nvidia gpu = $229 2019 Top of the line nvidia gpu= $1200 2029 nvidia gpu = $5000?

[@yokun1885]

2029 Nvidia GPU = RTX 11080 Ti Super

[@realkeizerosu]

the RTX Titan is close to 5k

[@warrax111]

+4KGamer Nvidia Top line Nvidia GPU 2009 = GTX 295 = 500$ (=600$ after inflation in 2019)

[@alluallunen910]

When you do the maths it would actually be $6288

[@Arcarctic]

The nvidia tesla p1000 is $5000+ so more like $50000

[@gamechaser002]

"But will it run Crysis?" Being a period-correct game for BOTH of them...

[@leporex8698]

Actually nowadays Crysis is a piece of cake to run, admit it. It has its years now.

[@TraceurRyuk]

Xeropel Schwifty except for the fact that it’s barely compatible with modern systems

[@shadowguardian3612]

@@leporex8698 uses 2 cores effectively its easy to run but frames will drop at 4k and 1440p

[@shadowguardian3612]

@@TraceurRyuk it is compatible and it probably will be for many years just that it dosen't know how to use modern hardware

[@Andrei-tf7zi]

@ChicKEN ur sooo right :))) dude u hardly get 30 fps sometimes

[@BigMikeBell1]

I wish they did a "best possible 2009" versus cheapest possible 2019.

[@nxghtmare6108]

That’s... what the title says.

[@andrianfinlanda3372]

@@nxghtmare6108 nah man, you could go way lower than a 3400g in 2019

[@slimey.999]

@@andrianfinlanda3372 tbh the 3400g is the perfect spot for a budget build, u can also do a 2200g build if u lack the budget

[@Tom-sd2vi]

I think I bought my gtx580 in 2009 and my sister still plays red dead 2 on it lol

[@jamesdillonmccracken]

@@Tom-sd2vi what settings? Lol

[@cestarianinhabitant5898]

It would be interesting to see this again today, because 2010 was when we had the intel i series cpus and the nvidia GTX 400 series. It was when we took what was essentially the last step towards modern hardware architecture; we're still using comparable stuff, it's just after 10 years of generational improvements.

[@StaelTek]

if it was truly an expensive PC back in 2009, you should have used (example): Core i7 920 ASUS P6T DELUXE 6GB DDR3 RAM ATI Radeon HD 5870 (or 5970) that build is more 2008 era.

[@NickeyMouse]

Agree. You just listed my build from 2009 but I had GTX 285 instead of the ATi cards. Think I spent $2k or so.

[@annasvensson3533]

This is what I have from 2009: Intel i7 930 2.80 GHz, 8 GB of RAM, 2 X Nvidia Geforce GTX 460

[@Karyovin]

@@annasvensson3533 mine was a 930, gtx470, 12GB triple channel, bought everything in Mar 2010

[@Dave30867]

Thats garbage anyway

[@austinr09]

Yea not sure why the picked such slow hardware. That i7 was a beast.

[@Xibyth]

“I just touched it” Places hand on it, proceeds to reboot. Yeah that’s basically the 90’s, fiddle with it till it works, then stand completely still.

[@a64738]

LOL that reminds me when I had computer trouble with crashing and not booting at all. One of my Bengal cats stared at the computer for 20 second, then proceeded to put his paw inside the open case, fiddle around a bit and walk away proudly as the computer started and worked perfectly fine after :)

[@brendanfroats4138]

So this is the dude that kills himself laughing behind the camera all the time lol I love it

[@shinikamiz]

What

[@amzwl1671]

What

[@AnalogFoundry]

What

[@robotbreakr5273]

What

[@paigecarr3254]

What

[@actualRocketScientist]

Can I join your team and just open boxes for you? I don't actually want anyting I just really like opening new boxes

[@dodixxxAuroth]

r/cursedcomments

[@actualRocketScientist]

@@dodixxxAuroth is that a terminal command?

[@kittyyuki1537]

can't tell if r/whoooosh or a joke

[@uberdriverlondon]

I hope Jay read your comment and take you in the team. I really wanna see you in the channel.

[@actualRocketScientist]

@@uberdriverlondon not yet but I really hope so I like these guys and my resume is insane

[@fsylar1188]

2009 THE FIRST GEN CORE I7 SHOULD HAVE BEEN USED

[@Non-ICE]

i7-960 was out then, not within my budget tho :P

[@Mike-ou5qo]

Exactly...I still have my i7 first gen x58 sabertooth motherboard with 1000w power supply...oc'd to 4ghz with two 9800 evgas... updated to two 540ti's that still runs today's games ultra in 1080p...built it when the i7 came out

[@KOSMOS1701A]

I had the i7-950, its still not a bad processor, but i replaced it with a Xeon, much better overclocks and temperatures.

[@Nebnub]

@@Mike-ou5qo 540 ti don't exist dumbass

[@original_zurn0]

I fully agree, list price of the i7 920 wasn't much more than this processor, although motherboards were never cheap.

[@TONI-bi1lg]

But the i7 920 released in 2009 and it is more powerfull than the core 2 duo

[@kvykimo]

i was thinking the same. lga 1366 came out in 2009 and you could run 6c/12t xeons on it like the w3680 that would dwarf any core duo or core quad at the time

[@TONI-bi1lg]

@@kvykimo also for the gpu part, the gtx 280 was a monster compared to that 8800GTX plus

[@kvykimo]

@@TONI-bi1lg yep, youre correct. this video basically compared 2006-7ish hardware to 2019 hardware. still interesting to look at disregarding misleading information

[@chrisjanashousky1353]

They should have used a gt 1030 for the new budget card.

[@h2oaddict28]

2008

[@blablawtf]

i LOVE the commentary between you two.. its very true that a lot of us still own 10 yr old PCs that, at the time, were massive powerhouses. Thanks for this great comparison video!

[@clancymay1092]

@jaystwocents your videos have popped up on my feed in the last couple of days and i’ve been entertained by all of them so now i’m subscribed with alerts on. thankyou

[@kar351]

conclusion: Update your Pc every 10 years. :p

[@iiiiii7680]

Ehhhh... Every 5 years I'd say

[@MayDayMei98]

You'd certainly feel the upgrade, I suppose. I agree with Taylor Swift's Tech Talks, 5 years for a total overhaul.

[@ChrisFreibier]

After every next console launch 🤟

[@watchme9463]

@@ChrisFreibier That's a very good argument

[@Trainmaster909]

I’d say every console generation get a new PC

[@andrewcosta5001]

Jay's 2009 pc is my 2019 pc

[@Zellonous]

I have that same card. I tried to upgrade to a core 2 quad but I started having hard freezes when I did. Had to revert back to my duo. Didn't completely fix it... I think my mobo has finally had enough and entered old age.

[@Sarklord]

mine is even older... :(

[@ryanhills2088]

OR Jay's 2019 pc is my 2009 pc

[@jubeh]

Still using a phenom ii x4 here

[@Zellonous]

@Eduard Berisa hmm. I don't know. When I do ram tests everything is fine. And when I reverted back to my core 2 duo, it got better. Only certain games make it freeze now. And uh... Then there is the suspect capacitors 😅

[@Elitefromthebar]

you should fix the title> 2009 budget pc vs 2019 even tighter budget pc

[@campkira]

junk and junk...you may well get console..

[@xceedsilva]

@@campkira Oh no

[@MoonOvIce]

@@campkira Back in this era, it was still better to play on console. Many more exclusives with decent multi-platform games, lots more players online (sure, the paid online on 360, but it was free on the PS3). PCs console ports were still trnasitioning to having proper PC ports or full-on PC versions (like many Capcom games), Japanese developers were still slowly releasing legendary console-only games and franchises on PC but the ports were still not quite there, but better than the early 2000's. A lot of PC-only franchises were now starting to have nice console ports or at least nice versions of these, also, many PC franchises became console-centric or console-only. I would say PC picked back up at middle, and end of the 360/PS3 generation and got seriously mainstream in the PS4/XOne generation.

[@apefish2266]

@@campkira NO who wants a console . also you can do real work and gaming on a pc

[@bernice9701ify]

"buy an SSD."

[@tyonorshapzc7tjfvb7-caz]

:D

[@mercentperrault]

Sexual Desire Disorder Super Slick Drive Steroid Sulfatase Deficiency What does it stand for? 😂

[@broccolliny]

@@mercentperrault Solid State Drive

[@xpsuo7565]

@@broccolliny r/woooosh

[@broccolliny]

@@xpsuo7565 why r/whoooosh me men

[@StefanEtienneTheVerrgeRep]

The human eye can't even see more than 7 years.

[@jimbonetics9082]

No wonder no one can see me

[@mbahmarijan789]

Have you learn from your mistake?

[@PixelVogue]

Masturbation kills

[@nopir3898]

Hey, you done reviewing the beats headphones?

[@MixChaosMonkey]

How does Pewdiepie even notice his Subscribers then?

[@carlb641]

Should be the X58 i7s/Xeon vs the 2019 rig. Let's see how that pans out.

[@KickMoreAss]

I still was running a x58 , 5675 cpu

[@samin90]

I was literally just running a x58 system with a 6 core i7 970 until a few days ago

Still use x58 with an w3670 with AMD fury x cheap 160€ wqhd 144hz system. At least for e sports titles like overwatch.

[@fifteendollarbill]

Im still rocking a x58 mobo with a i7 930 bloomfield and a gtx460 and 6 gigs of ram. Back in the day that was top the line!

[@a.muhammad7274]

Don't forget LGA1156 either! My x3470 is still purring away somewhere between 3.6-3.9ghz, heats up my room exceptionally. 1070 on deck also

[@curtismurray250]

Great video, enjoyed the comparison. I firmly believe you can enjoy gaming on older rigs but this really helps shed light on how things have really progressed, thanks!

[@eliasricano7170]

you dudes get along very nice and that really gives something special to this channel. I enjoy this content so much!! Thanks!

[@CrushedLuminary]

10 years ago, I was a decade younger.

[@salemmuhammad3536]

No way, me too

[@paydenjackson7156]

Pffff i was a decade older

[@biscuitburger725]

Alex Vargas same

[@RyujiJames]

Hmmm, yes the floor here seems to be made out of floor..

[@rafpop62]

Every 60 sec , a minute passes

[@ratherlazy]

x58 was around in 2009. I'm still running my x58 i7 920 build from back then for gaming now lol. Been overclocked to 3.6-3.8ghz the entire time too!

[@kyles8524]

im still running some pretty old hardware, i have a i5-3570k @ 4.3ghz on a z77 platform with my gtx 1070

[@MayDayMei98]

@@kyles8524 That's a solid cpu and new-ish gpu (that's only the previous generation)

[@ratherlazy]

@@kyles8524 yup. I've upgraded to a 1080ti and will eventually upgrade everything else, but for now it still runs everything pretty solidly

[@handlealreadytaken]

You can get a 6 core Xeon for $20 off eBay if you want an upgrade.

[@GCRPMedia]

@@kyles8524 nice man, I had an i5 2500 for 3 years up until I just upgraded to a ryzen 2700 as of today

[@LordSandwichII]

Why didn't you overclock the Core 2 Quad? One of their defining features was the ability to do crazy overclocks!

[@jaredbesanceney1]

I agree, my dad was running a pretty nicely OCed core 2 duo, and it wasn't stressing itself out or running insanely hot.

[@loganirdi4194]

I'm still running an FX-8350. I even used your overclocking guide from 9 years ago.

[@ivo3598]

Time to upgrade i had that too now rocking 5900x ryzen 9!!!

[@GamingFruguy]

"Phil and I talked about this offline" Does that mean you spoke to him on the phone or in person??

[@zironemegeaz]

correct

[@NexissTV]

Abso-fucking-lutley

[@Bebolife12345]

On the phone is still technically on a line

[@barsdogukankarakoyun8798]

That would be the truth

[@TheAnon03]

Built my current (most parts long since upgraded) machine early-mid 2009 CPU: i7 920 GPU: GTX 260 (I think it was an EVGA) MB: ASUS P6T Deluxe RAM: 12GB OCZ Gold (no idea what speeds) HD: 240GB boot HD, 300GB WD Black for games and I think either 500GB or 1TB for general storage (may have added that later). Case: Cosmos 'S' Sport CD/DVD: No idea, something generic. OS: Vista And a Logitech G5 gaming mouse (The blue one, still my favorite mouse ever) Everything else I moved over from my older dead machine. Came to about £1600. So yeah what you've got isn't what I'd consider an "expensive" 2009 PC.

[@rebeccaschade3987]

Indeed, I was thinking that as well. I bought my first i7 (also a 920) back in 2009. Those CPUs could overclock like beasts if you were slightly lucky. Mine "only" did 3.78GHz with speedstep, turbo boost and idle states enabled. It boosted to just over 4GHz.

[@TheAnon03]

@@rebeccaschade3987 I kept mine at 3.2GHz, the finer points of overclocking evade me and I didn't want to push it.

[@jcrittle_]

awesome video guys, absolutely love seeing Phil in the videos keep it up guys 🤙

[@ztaquatics]

i love seeing these old builds. that time of pcs i was in a computer service tech class in high school and it opened up the world of pcs to me

[@get2choppa]

10:51 that scene needs a physx remastering

[@qeedzhr]

Yeah the b**bs jiggle unrealistically

[@raja7775]

What game is that

[@vuax]

"some of you are still running PCs that old" *cries in phenom ll x4 910 just now upgrading to 3600x + 2070super FeelsGoodMan

[@h3ad8a5h3r]

still gaming on my phenom II x6 1100t

[@Mrparkdog1]

I literally have an x4 950 which is working surprisingly well

[@eamh2002]

I've had a Phenom 2 x6 1055t since 2014, before that an athlon 2 x2 250 3,0ghz (phenom related core) In 2007 I had an athlon xp3200+ and it was banging Mount & Blade easily xD Now I'm running 80-90fps on PUBG with i5 2500k and 780gtx

[@onboard3]

Wow, you'll won't be experiencing an upgrade, that's a quatum leap :) Getting 3600x too, so CPU high5 (still in shipping)

[@AeroBigDick]

This is my 6th day with my new 3600x build :) First PC I've built in a long time. Upgraded from a i7 2600, wow what a difference. Got an M.2 NVME SSD and this thing is incredible snappy and responsive. Bought a new 144hz monitor as well, 27 in and curved with freesync and only paid $169.99 for it!

[@guffey1989]

Right around the time this video came out, I did a new build to replace my gaming rig from 2011. Suffice to say the performance jump from an i5-760 to an i5-9600K was massive. The 760 held it's own very well through the years to be honest. Thanks for sharing this

[@ConGie]

This is a good video, I remember running that old hardware and being amazed.

[@shinji906]

3:43 "à lot of you are still running PCs that are that old" Laughs in 2005 Athlon 3800

[@shitoryu8]

My brother, I hope you upgrade soon.

[@joshuachristiansen2626]

Dude. That has to hurt

[@MarcABrown-tt1fp]

Laughs In 2004 Sempron 1500+ running 32 bit windows 7

[@Snagoot]

Laughs in i5 from 2009

[@FernandoFuvio]

I still use my X58 motherboard with DDR3 1600mhz 12GB RAM from 2010 hahaha

[@kclamer]

I would have we preferred to see a $3000+ system from 2009 vs a $600 from 2019. A 1k computer is too weak even after 5 years.

[@SwainixFPV]

My 2013-2015 budget system is still holding on tho, fx6350 OC'd to 4.5Ghz (air cooling so could go higher) and HD7870, 16GB of DDR3-1600Mhz 2x dual channel. And it wasn't even 1k, more like 800 spent over 2 years from 2013 to 2015. But can I play modern AAA games at 60fps+ ? Haven't tried in a while. But can I play csgo, bf4 etc at more than 144fps ? yes ;)

[@zangetsu6638]

and the Q9400 was a VALUE quad core even when it came out in mid-2008 lol he definitely could have used something hotter from 2009.

[@zangetsu6638]

@@SwainixFPV that's a nice budget system. do you have a SSD?

[@SwainixFPV]

@@zangetsu6638 Yea I have a sata ssd of 128Gb, enough for windows + mozilla and one/two esport titles, and a 1 TB harddrive which is slowly starting to slow down tho ahah

[@filds1]

If you wanna talk about 5 years. 4790k still rocks and its currently 5 years old Im still using 2600k at 4.9 the 2600k is still strong even till this date. Im not sure how reliable is the cinebench and other shit but if i take cinebench scores im in 900cb. Im gonna upgrade my cpu maybe in few years it really depends on the price point. Im from Bosnia and shit here is too expensive even used because brain dead people are asking almost new price for old gens. Ryzen looks dope but i dont have money for that platform ram went down litte bit but the cpu is still expensive

[@MeticulousTechTV]

I had that exact same EVGA 9800 GTX+ in the 2009 system! Was so awesome for the time, but I paired it with the E8400 DUAL Core instead of splurging for Quad, and that was when every dev was making the switch over to quad core. BF2: BC and BF3 were two games that forced me to upgrade a mere 3 years later (built in 2008 or 2009, upgraded in 2012 to Ivy Bridge.)

[@Novac_Alexandru]

Wow interesting vid i watch it in 2020 big like and respect!

[@northdakotabeast1547]

"Some of y'all are still running PCs that old." Damn I felt attacked lmaoo. My fx-8320 would like a word. decibels instead of decimals that was cute lol

[@PenguinCinema]

same bruh did you sign up for the fx-8320 amd lawsuit

[@GCRPMedia]

whispers - "Okay Boomer" *flex with Ryzen 2700*

[@Gwarnine]

whats it gonna say? Loading?

[@northdakotabeast1547]

@@Gwarnine Yeah, dude it's still loading it's response. I'm actually upset at how slow it's taking! Kappa

[@northdakotabeast1547]

@@PenguinCinema I did not, I heard it was like 50 bucks return or something. Figured it was too much work.

[@KeeperOfKale222]

"This old Computer from 2009." *Stares at 2010 iMac screen*

[@soniablanche5672]

> mac

[@ghaviorizky3961]

*stares* *at* *my* *2009* *xeon* *cpu*

[@Pasi123]

I have a Xeon X5670 @ 4.4GHz 6c/12t from 2010. It's still a pretty fast CPU

[@Atomo]

*stares at my i7-860*

[@onecleangti]

Stares at my dellianware m15x Doh

[@dialNforNinja]

I had that case in 2009 too... I miss that case. The drive bay door was so cool I spent the first five minutes after unboxing it just playing with that.

[@IMWH1T3xK1LL3R]

You earned my sub from the office reference keep up the good work bro loving the vids! I'm an old cheap gamer lol I'm running a xeon x5675 oc to 4.5ghz with a gtx 660 and 16gb ram lol im getting a new gpu soon but its doing the job for now

[@BrandonOrlosky]

“well they fixed the bugs now...” (RDR2) Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

[@bugtrapper]

same exact reaction

[@LexLutha]

They did as far as I can tell

[@solhays]

I still get a crash once and a while, and my frame times spike off and on.

[@BKnight_]

Is the performance actually reasonable now too?

[@Tommyr44]

@@BKnight_ lmao no

[@arastiacreations594]

The 2009 PC has almost the exact same hardware than my old gaming PC. When I mean old I mean the one I had in March 2019 EDIT: For info, it was a Core 2 Quad Q9400 with a Q35 chipset and 6GB of DDR2 and a GT 710

[@shzammpatapon9865]

hahaha

[@iankirk3537]

I replaced my 10-year old AMD 8 core PC with spinning disc drives with a new AMD 6 core with a NVMe and an SSD. The video did not mention power consumption. My power use has dropped remarkably, perhaps enough to pay for the system in a couple of years. Also it is very quiet when idling.

[@joshuacrawford11]

Love reading this lol. I finally upgraded in July from a Q9550, 8gb ram, and a GTX 660. We were the last of a dieing breed lol

[@silni7]

About a month ago i upgraded from Core 2 Duo E7400, 3gb RAM and 9500 GT to R5 3600 , RX 5700XT and 16gb ram :S and nvme ssd

[@MisoElEven]

Q9400 could play even modern titles still...would be even slower than Ryzen 3 1200 but close. Sticking a 1650 or rx 590 into it and it should run good enough xD

[@safi9724]

The office reference at 9:46 to 9:55 was very very great jay is a man of culture

[@TheTechAdmin]

8:52 I'm surprised you didn't know you can adjust "max_fps 9000" in the steam console, before running the test.

[@MJ-uk6lu]

I wonder why do they even bother to cap it at all

[@JW-zx3ys]

Reasons to watch Jay: Phil laughing Jay screwing up some things Tech Lmao

[@stefthestef2853]

"2009 Expensive PC" was mediocre at best in 2009. Tons of better choices for GPUs and even CPUs.

[@massmassive8329]

ma ovog debila ne treba ni slusati. Uzeo najslabiju plocu za 775 socket, koristi ddr2 ram, debil uzeo 9000 seriju iz 2008.

[@soniablanche5672]

yep, core i7 just came out and PCs had way more than 4 GB at the time.

[@Adzmataz]

My Q9650 oc'd to 4ghz with 16gb of ddr3 ram oc'd to 1800mhz and an mx500 ssd with a gtx 1660 (my gtx 570 finally died and my gtx 9800 died even longer ago) agree

[@ifarted2hard]

still using my i5-760 and the 8 gbs it came with when my dad built it

[@mrcrisplinuxuser4180]

Yah my current cpu is an i7 950 which was released q2 2009

[@Highsen]

I like that you took a 5 minute break at 4:20 before you started filming. Really helps get the mind right lol

[@Hilol-nx3wf]

You can go higher than 300fps in source games. Go into console and type in 'fps_max 0' this tells the engine to set the max fps to infinite. By default fps_max has a default value of 300.

[@epicbacongaming2k117]

You can disable the FPS limit in Source games by typing "developer 1" and then "fps 99999" in the console

[@The0Gizmo]

I thought it was just "fps_max 0".

[@LiquidFoxDesigns]

@@The0Gizmo it is, don't know if the other thing works but putting in fps_max 0 on any source game's title screen disables the limiter.

[@Hav1tt]

This is the type of comparison i like. When I built my first desktop my father said to never buy the best of the best because it gets outdated fast. Better to go budget and upgradeable.

[@rapidfiremuzik_official]

Smart man, ALOT of ppl (mys3lf included lol) jump to whatever is the APPARENT latest and greatest....bending backwards to save pennies for those grand Items.....Only for it to become outdated and depreciated very quickly lol

[@kyles8524]

most people will do that unless they have a big budget

[@azharkacak1978]

2 smart man here.wise father and a son who listened to his wise father's advice.

[@banban5568]

@@azharkacak1978 can i be smart too?

[@GhostHostMemories]

Would be nice to do a comparison of building a "budget" system then upgrade in 3 years and do another 3 year upgrade. See what the performance change is bs cost invested compared to the top of the line system. 6 years ago.

[@TheEdgeman64]

I did a build in that same style case about 15 years ago. The top front panel cover slid down slowly like it was hydraulic. That was the bomb back then!

[@stefantheconqueror8710]

8:50 Not engine locked, you can set fps_max 0 in the console to remove the 300 cap

[@yousef2105]

6:16 really killed me xD God damn, burst out in laughter while everyone's sleeping at 4 AM

[@tomnotthomas8152]

Lol same

[@MickieDsNuts]

Really wasnt as funny as I was hoping..

[@jamesmawdsley7306]

Really? Some people are extremely easy to entertain then. 🙄

[@yousef2105]

@@jamesmawdsley7306 that's what so beautiful about comedy buddy, people find different things amusing, doesn't really mean that some are"extremely easy to entertain" ;)

[@jamesmawdsley7306]

@@yousef2105 but it wasn't funny

[@ScrewySquid]

Phil's laugh cracks me up

[@Brisleep1]

Here I am in mid 2021, the last time I built a system was '09, featuring a!n i7-920 D stepping, clockable to 4.0 Ghz but I just run it stock with an Antek Kühler. I've upgraded the ram, got new SSD's one for boot, one for backup boot, a "ghost" drive, and a new 4 TB spinning drive. Guys, I'm a 60 year old service connected disabled veteran who's wife died of a heart attack 2 years ago when we were both 58. I'm an amputee and somewhere along the line, I forgot that games help with the pain from the amputation, when I was 28, and the 4 spinal surgeries, plus fibromyalgia and severe narcolepsy. When I bought my GTX 970, it was a few hundred and towards the better side of graphics, I looked at new Nvidia cards now and my heart sunk! I can't believe they want the price of a good used car for a graphics card! I have a nice upgrade plan, new Ryzen, x570 motherboard, g.skill ram, either the cooler master XB Evo, or the Thermaltake V21, smaller and lighter because of my spine surgeries. I thought maybe the wraith cooler until I get more money to buy the EK 240 all black AIO, but I guess I'll be holding that GTX 970 for a while. Oh, I have an EVGA plain vanilla GTX 480 just sitting in a drawer, it works fine, but next to it is an XFX card that must have been damaged in transit. So I'll fix up the old box, a HAF 912, how I can with the money I was given as a gift from my dad and find some titles to play, to help me forget about the pain while I'm immersed in Far Cry 2, BioShock 2 or Skyrim 5, maybe some other games I find laying in a box in this little apartment. My cat laying close by, alerting me if I'm going to have an asthma attack, forget to eat or forget my meds. Mr. Nimbus is more service dog than some of the mutts I've seen at the VA hospital but speciesist attitudes keeps him from doing what he loves, protecting me, being a part of me. Thanks for listening guys, it's been harder to find folks who want to listen to an old gamer like me.

[@mealot7613]

Had a hp z400 with xeon w3520 in 2009 with 6gb ddr3 , quadro fx 1800. The pc is still going strong in 2019 although the the cpu is now w3690, 20gb ddr3 gtx 1070. Case, motherboard and power supply still in use and will stay in use for several years to come.

[@daedalus9001]

Jay, I’d be interested to see an extension of this, how far back in time can you go with an expensive system where it matches a budget system from this year? In other words, how long do expensive systems last?

[@tjidde95]

@@RS_Redbaron laughs in i7 970.

[@MarkGrech79]

@@RS_Redbaron that's exactly what i just replaced 1 month ago... Been running overclocked for tha past 8 years from 3.4 to 4.8Ghz :D Now got a 3800x

[@rfouR_4]

I had a i7 920 @4GHz on a TRUE120 air cooler, 12GB DDR3, a 128GB SSD, and dual GTX280s in 09. And those were like stuff that came out in mostly in late 08. I bought most the stuff December of 08, and got the second GPU in 09. That rig you built is more like 07-early 08 high end, and not "expensive" still. I skipped the 9000 series but back then but that Q9400 wasn't really the "expensive" CPU. 🤷‍♂️ I mean yeah, regardless, YES it would still get creamed by modern rigs, but still, there was a pretty big leap in performance from the C2Q 9000 series to the first gen i7s. Not only in IPC but also hyperthreading made a come back. At ~4GHz with the i7 920, I've seen people score ~650-670cb on R15 multicore which is over twice the results you got with the Q9400 (284cb). Again yeah it's way slower than modern stuff but still kinda respectable for such old hardware. Power efficiency obviously withstanding. 😆😅 Same story from the 9000 series Nvidia cards to the GTX200 series. I think you had a doubling of performance nearly, doubling the cuda cores/stream processors and other improvements. Also you can remove the FPS cap in source by using the command fps_max 999 or 0.

[@michaelthedad]

My i5 760 running at 3.8Ghz still holds up pretty well, upgrading to a 3600 though

[@rfouR_4]

@@michaelthedad Yeah pretty good time to. Applaud people who have stretched their dollar that far. 👍

[@jc-2134]

@@michaelthedad upgraded to a 3600 from an i7 2600, Big leap

[@michaelthedad]

Rene Hourian Lol Jay actually convinced me that it's safe to overclocked. It saved me😂

[@michaelthedad]

Ligma- bro I'm so happy I can finally afford to upgrade. University fees was killing my budget

[@ohyeahyeah6215]

I always laugh so much in your videos. Keep it up lol

[@thefearlessshaheen2366]

9:55 Damn! *Dwight would have been proud!*

[@Its_JustLynn]

"I'm getting *BSHSBDBN* FPS" I probably laughed more at that sound than I should have

[@AeroFix94]

"2009 expensive" lol, not really Nah, Midrange at the time. X58 and HD 5800 was already out.

[@ES-jk9nr]

Totally agree that isnt even close to expensive,2009 had gtx280 had those i7 cpus , 2009 was amazing for gamers ! It wad the new era :D

[@UnExtinctive]

@@ES-jk9nr I was going to say, we already had DDR3 and i7 cpus in 2009 I thought..?

[@SaleStankov94]

Yeah in 2009 i had core2quad q9400, 6gb of ram and nvidia gtx280

[@whereverifall7308]

Yeah the 5770 could outperform the 9800 GTX. And most benchmarks and higher end systems were running the i7 920 by then. Let alone the fact that by the end of 09 the 5970 was out.

[@gamerthebanning]

You could have 8gb of ddr3 at the time (with a high grade mb)

[@Huskmini]

Phil needs to be on camera more. Such a good man

[@Kylemathews1]

15:14 "You stole my FPS!" Lmao

[@cybercat1531]

The G41M-ES2L is a crap tier travesty. The Q9400 is mid low end. Even in 2009 this was just all mid tier low end stuff. And the GTX9800+ was another reheated 8800. TLDR: i7-920 with a proper board + HD5970 / GTX295 or go home.

[@rikachiu]

Wasn't the i7 920 the king cpu for gaming in 2009?

[@TheGeneralkrank]

Yeah insanely faster too

[@Luke.]

It’s still somewhat powerful for a budget pc, throw in 8gb of DDR3 with an SSD and something like even a 970 will still make for a decent gaming experience at 1080p.

[@invellix3179]

@@Luke. i have an i7 870, and it is terrible.

[@shadowguardian3612]

@@invellix3179 yeah its 10 years old and not the worst thing for 70$

[@nick4paokara]

@@invellix3179 Yeah but he said 970 not 870, the 970 has 6 cores and westmere microarchitecture and performs better than the 4 core of your 870

[@ebbe621]

I literally have almost exact this pc left in my room. The only thing that’s different is that i have the 9800GT. I now just use it as a server

[@metalphobos3632]

That was around the time I built my first pc. It's was an e6850 with a gtx 260 and 16gb of Corsair XMS2 ddr2. It was either 2008 or 2009. The BEST times. Man, we've come a long way. I still have my gtx 260 along with 13 other video cards from the last 10+ years

[@raulandj]

The first card was probably a forgotten RMA lol.

[@TheRickJames]

This needs more up-votes lol

[@bogdanpopescu5533]

Jay going for the citadel under the Yamato's front turret. "I see a man of culture as well"

[@khalidhebshi5318]

I love The Office reference where Jay and Phil are benchmarking

[@MegaDude531]

My late 2008 build: EVGA x58 3x SLI EVGA GTX260 Core 216 Core i7 920 WD Black 640gb Windows Vista Ultimate 3GB OCZ Triple Channel RAM Ran all my games on highest settings on my 1680x1050 Acer display for years! It was my first build as well during my high school years. I did upgrade to 12GB G-Skill RAM and to Windows 7. Added a 2TB hard drive later as well.

[@Tc4ify]

A high end(ish) build in 2009, especially by the end of the year, would definitively be an X58 based, with at least an i7 960 or so and a gtx 285 or hd 5850/5870

[@emilrostobagia]

Watching from a 19 years old pc.....

[@blitz8260]

That’s not even possible

[@emilrostobagia]

@@blitz8260 It is possible,i just watch it with 480p😂

[@blitz8260]

Emil Rostobagia lol I think it’s time to upgrade

[@blitz8260]

Emil Rostobagia even a 100$ chrome book would be an upgrade

[@emilrostobagia]

@@blitz8260 It's not my PC 😂😂

[@VchaosTheoryV]

I remember my old system just prior to my current one. It had a Radeon 5670 with 4gigs of 1666(?) ram rocking an I3 540(?). The Radeon upgraded to a Vega64, 4 gigs of Ram upgraded to a 16gig 3200 capacity, the I3 to a Ryzen 2600x, HDD to an SDD. So yeah i was pretty blown away a year and a half ago when i first booted up the new system.

[@ClarkeZor]

Watching this video on Q9650 @3.5Ghz on Asus P5K with 8Gb DDR2800, I put a 750ti in it a couple of years back and it's still going strong

[@kevadu]

Did you overclock the 10 year old system? That was a thing, you know. It's not like overclocking is new, and it's really weird to just overclock one of them and not the other.

[@sunnycyberbum]

You mean to overclock the gpu, which is already crashing?

[@wolvewick4414]

@@sunnycyberbum it was crashing cos they useless fckers. they didnt turn off alot apps on Windows 10 the didnt put Windows 10 to be fast for games. my pc is older than that one and it doesnt work or crash like that. quad q6600 4gb ddr2 gtx750ti play league of legends at médium resolution 80 90 fps. play tom raider 2013 at médium resolution and Batman arkham origins 2013 at médium aswell.

[@sunnycyberbum]

@@wolvewick4414 medium resolution?

[@Supremax67]

@@wolvewick4414 -- You don't overclock a computer you plan to keep for 10 years.

[@wolvewick4414]

@@sunnycyberbum Batman origins medium, tomb raider normal is the above low resolution.

[@two-keytech7578]

Love your channel helped me build my first pc this year!!!

[@drakesmith115]

I bet they love reading comments like this!

[@drcynicalz9977]

Christopher Anderson same!

[@eduardotorres6108]

Yup (include other channels) my pc coming in tomorrow thx to Black Friday! I haven’t upgraded my pc within 10y.

[@yuu.7659]

@@eduardotorres6108 holy moly. i bet the feeling is amazing! you plan on having this new upgrade last another 10 years too?

[@eduardotorres6108]

Yu U. Every 5y at least

[@ROGsilence]

Phil's N7 Mass Effect hoodie is the best part of the video!

[@shanekelley3064]

Yes.. I am still running a PC that old... Well 2010. X58 platform i7 950. Only things that had been replaced was a video card upgrade to gtx 780 when it came out, a PSU cause they tend to die, and added more ram later on. It's still chugging along...

[@Lathlaer]

"No one cares how you looked like 10 years ago" - Jay, who has great reason to show the change in his appearance and transformation ;-)

[@foilcladshadows]

Jay the only question people want to know is “Can it run Crisis?”

[@Muhanoid]

not in ultra settings. Yes it can. Low or medium will work. Maybe even some high settings, but not all

[@spavatch]

I’ve completed Crysis back in its heyday on a single core Athlon @2.5 GHz with Radeon X1950XTX card back in so yes, anything will run Crysis...

[@AxeMan562]

I chuckled because I have the same case as the 2019 budget build with some not-so-budget components inside

[@steamedauroraborealis8208]

I seriously took for granted how good GPU prices used to be. When I first started really getting into building my own computer, I bought an 8600 gts. Just a step under the coveted 8800. For $90. That's like the equivalent to the RTX 2080 non ti today. I could run literally every came at the time for less than $100. And it wasn't even a second hand card, it was brand new from Newegg. In fact, I'm pretty positive it was from EVGA of all companies.

[@beirch]

When the ATI Radeon 5870 released in 2009 it was their flagship, equivalent of an RTX 4080 today, and it launched with a $379 (!!) MSRP. Compare that to the MSRP of the RTX 4080 which was a staggering $1199. Even AMDs bonkers 5970, which would have been their equivalent to a nVidia's TITAN or xx90 cards, was "only" $699 at launch. Still nothing compared to the first TITAN which was $999 or the RTX 4090 which was a mind-numbing $1599.

[@nerd_bytes]

I still use an i7 860 with ddr3 also from 2009. I have an rx 580 8gb and it keeps up with modern low end systems without an issue

[@Xmw92ba3oenalfk9]

This video started off so professional and was just a hilarious train wreck when Phil came on camera

[@picklemat4619]

Even in the past 5 years it’s changed so much. Computers aren’t just about what game it runs or how fast but the home pc is about looks as well now. 10 year ago the case was to hide all the computer parts but now it’s to show them off. I got a case with 2 glass panels, rgb under glow, motherboard, ram, case lighting fan and graphics card soon to have rgb even my cpu cooler has lcd screen. None of that was even thought of 10 year ago

[@Zen-Games]

Quite an entertaining Comparo.

[@Chuck.S.]

Your 2009 machine should be running win 7 ( end of 2009 )

[@vherwashere]

"Beets, Bears, Battle Star Galactica" ah, men of my culture.

[@deweygibson3509]

It’s “Bears Beets Battlestar Galactica”. None of you are men of culture.

[@slimey.999]

bears come first dumbass

[@sanjeevkrishnaa2672]

And it's also, "What kinda bear is best?"

[@mercentperrault]

@@slimey.999 Don't mind if I interrupt, but what is that catchphrase?

[@slimey.999]

@@mercentperrault from the office, watch the show, it's really funny

[@custompc3895]

Man, my kids still play on a 2009 high-end PC: Q9650 overclocked to 3.6 GHz, 8 GB DDR2 overclocked to 1066 MHz and there is a SATA SSD paired with a somewhat recent GTX 1050 Ti. Still works like a charm.

[@RylanStorm]

I'm still running an Intel i7 from 2011 with 8gb RAM and a Geforce 1060 which I bought a few years back. Still hits 60fps in most games on medium settings at 1080p. I've been building PCs for 25 years. When I started, a gaming PC had an effective life of 2 or 3 years. The rate of improvement is slowing down..... rapidly.

[@unforgivensnake]

Yes Jay, my Pc is almost 10 years old, yes I need a new one soon, stop reading my mind!

[@ADCFproductions]

SAME :D

[@pachakutimundi6813]

same

[@AllenReviews]

My processor is almost 10 years old

[@campkira]

yeah i change new GPU few year after that... i think i had old GPU somewhere..

[@finnadler1356]

I wish I could just email evga to hmu with parts

[@rebelwithoutaclue4440]

Should do a core i7 gen 1 vs 10 when it happens

[@WildkatPhoto]

I routinely game on an i7 970

[@NPurvis7622]

Been pretty curious about that, my i7 920 ran GTA V flawlessly, not sure how frametime would be over 60fps, but I might hook it back up and mess with it a little. Upgraded to a 9600k last year, not a great comparison core wise, but might be fun to poke at. I wonder if it can manage RDR2 at 1080p low/medium, lol. Edit: I went from a GTX 275 to a GTX 950 Ti in 2015, and then a GTX 1080 Ti in 2018, gpus scaled a lot higher than my cpu did.

[@NPurvis7622]

@@WildkatPhoto Did you overclock your i7 at all since you've had it? I have a 920 myself. What games are you playing on it usually?

[@WildkatPhoto]

@@NPurvis7622 Nope. I dont mess with overclocking. I played around with Afterburner on my 570 once but I never noticed any difference in actual game play only in benchmarks.

[@XxmatixX6videosdiariosdenadav]

Simple, it would be six generations better because intel has remained the same since skylake

[@Toddothegoddo]

jez, 2019. They have no idea what happens next year.

[@marccarter1350]

Loved the GTX 980! Held on to that for ages! I ran these in sli as well.