Can this NEW PING CLUB help a RUBBISH chipper?!

In today's video I invite a mid handicap subscriber who classes himself rubbish at chipping to come and test the NEW PING CHIPR, head to head with his TAYLORMADE P790 9 IRON.
Will the NEW PING CHIPR help a poor chipper, lets find out...
PING CHIPR REVIEW ‪@garymartingolf‬

[@davecook3973]

Bought one a couple of weeks ago Gaz,love it ! Never leaving my bag I’ve even had a couple of chip ins

[@garymartingolf]

Really, I’ll pin this! 👌🏼

[@wschiek]

I would rather be embarrassed by having a chipper in my bag and playing better, than the embarrassment I feel when I chunk or blade a wedge around the green.

[@garymartingolf]

100% agree after this weekend golf 😂😆

[@ericfermin8347]

Yes, I've got one on order too. Every round I have two-three tight lies around the green that I can't seem to ever make correct contact with and add an extra two strokes per hole. If this club give me better contact I don't care what my buddy think. I only have 12 clubs in the bag currently so I won't be giving up anything other than the price of the club.

[@josephdubiel7129]

Thats a good point. Myself I just see it as another club in the bag. Perhaps a smarter choice of club.

[@seanburden6143]

Gaz your the only golfer on you tube that has combined the chipper with somebody that cannot chip! Well done

[@garymartingolf]

Thanks. I just guessed that most people looking to buy a chipper would do so because chipping was their weakness, so getting feedback for someone else who struggles would be more helpful. I mean, at first I thought it might be a waste of a club, but that was from my perspective, someone who struggles with a chip would die for anything that feels easier to use, and I think he said he was more comfortable with the chipper than an 8 or 9 iron👍🏼

[@playingbadgolfwell9732]

I've noticed that both Mark Crossfield and Matt Lockey have added chippers. Both are ~5 handicaps. I've since taken out my 56* sand wedge and 60* lob wedge and replaced both with a single 58* sand wedge. This made room to add a Cleveland Smart Sole 4 Chipper. I've only had it for 2-3 weeks and am still getting used to it. In that limited time, I've never "duffed" a chip and rarely left the ball short of the hole (at least any shorter than a 1-putt.) At the moment, I'm just as good (no better or worse) with the chipper as I am with my other wedges. However, over time, I expect (hope) to master the chipper and it'll become my go-to short-game club. At the moment, preowned Ping and Cleveland chippers are selling for 85-90% of the price of a new wedge. As a result, I'd suggest anyone who thinks it might help to try one out. If it doesn't work as intended over a month or two, someone could sell it on and the entire experiment would cost only ~25 BPS or USD. That's my plan.

[@garymartingolf]

That’s actually a great idea!!!

[@gregbarthjr9621]

Gaz, I have the ping chipr. Within a couple of holes, I was dialed in. I'm currently a 27 handicap, and work 6 days a week. All my practice is with irons, putting, and woods. I just don't have time to practice bunkers and chipping. This Ping Chipr is a great way for me to focus on the other aspects of my game and improve those, while I can keep chipping very simple. Keep up the great work, Cheers!

[@garymartingolf]

That’s a great talking point Greg. I’ll keep that in mind. Good point 👌🏼

[@gordongidney6973]

Well done Adam, really helpful to get a real golfer review

[@Jdavid1976]

I just watched 10 ping chipr videos before this one, and this was by far the best way to review this particular club.

[@garymartingolf]

Thanks for watching Tex, really appreciate it 👌🏼

[@josephdubiel7129]

I actually have the Ping and the Cleveland chippers. Different lofts and love them both. Recently added the Ping. Its a great deal of fun and works extremely well. I actually find it easier to direct than the Cleveland. Its a great club. During my last round I had hit a ball left of the hole with my tee shot. I had trees to get through and a rough down hill to the green. I took out the Ping and hit it perfectly onto the small down hill slope and it rolled gently onto the green. This was a par 3 and it helped me to save bogey. I have also noticed with a variety of shots thats its far easier for me to aim and direct it to the areas I want to go to. I think Ping has a winner with this club. The Ping has done very well in a variety of reviews as well.

[@garymartingolf]

That’s interesting. I wish you was local for a vlog. Be good talking about this and playing a few holes.

[@josephdubiel7129]

@@garymartingolf Not sure where you live Gary I am in Connecticut. I think using a putting stroke with the Ping helps too. I think both the Ping and Cleveland Chippers are good.. The different lofts come in handy too. But again I find the Ping easier to direct. I really like the way it looks too. At times when I feel I might need more loft I can use the Cleveland. Kind of like carrying two wedges. Joe

[@fergusfitzgerald977]

It is very well designed aesthetically and has totally changed the notion of a “ chipper “ - love to give one a try / tend to use a lot of bump and runs and keep my SW for the bunkers! Interesting no doubt about it !

[@garymartingolf]

Hope you get chance to trial one 👌🏼

[@bt1920]

Thanks for the review man. Really enjoyed the video. Just subscribed.🙏

[@garymartingolf]

Thanks for the follow, appreciated 👌🏼👌🏼

[@thomasesparza9175]

I have the Ping ChipR when it first became available and like the extra weight of the club vs. the lighter 9 iron. In your video hitting to longer pin, he was pulling it to the left because of holding it more in the fingers rather than in the palm like a putter. The putter grip would put the golfer more over the target line rather than further away from it, i.e. 70 vs. 60 degree lie.

[@jcgolf159]

8:08 🤣Got him good 👏 I had a chipper years ago and it worked for a few but then it didn't, so just practised more with 9i for shorter chips, 8i for longer fringe chips, and 7i for 30 yards out with no trouble or thicker grass. Like we all experience, the swing/technique comes and goes. ATM my chipping has gone and i was thinking about a chipper once again! But I don't have room in the bag as I've started using my gap more now vs bump 'n runnin the ball up and onto the green from within 50-80 YRDS ⛳

[@garymartingolf]

Ahaha 🤣 That’s interesting. It sounds like they’re coming around again then 😅

[@christianvachon2235]

Very interesting! The trick with the Ping ChipR is not to choke down on the grip. Its meant for a normal grip to be very putter-like, with the shorter shaft and the flatter lie angle. I am old - from the era of blades only and traditional lofts, where you had a PW and SW and that's it. In those days, we use ALL the irons for chipping, increasing loft as you were away from the green. This way, you have a lot of options.

[@hudsonrilke]

Good grouping Gaz, it’s left to right though 🤣🤣🤣

[@adrianscott6005]

I’ve watched so many reviews and everyone wan5s to hate the, but end up loving them - I’d love to try one

[@johnayscue8935]

I've got one and it has definitely improved my chipping. I made room in my bag for it. It was $179 US dollars. In my opinion money well spent. Take care.

[@grayhill774]

Chipped my 3rd practice ball in from 30 feet and felt well chuffed with myself, seeing I can’t chip to save my life normally. Can’t wait to take mine on the coarse. Very happy with mine, it cost £159 from the clubhouse, time will tell if it was money well spent. I play off 20⛳️

[@bradfordcotta5925]

I use the Cleveland C-Wedge instead. It has 42 degrees of loft instead of 38 - that is a huge difference when chipping. Because it is shorter, it goes almost exactly the same distance on a full shot as my gap wedge, so I took the gap wedge out of the bag. It is my straightest club and I hit it all the way up to 110 yards. One of the best clubs I have every owned. I think the 38 degree Ping wouldn't be as versatile. Try that one instead. And, BTW, I am a 3 handicap, so I think it is a great club for all handicap levels.

[@garymartingolf]

That sounds awesome! I need to get hold of one 🔥

[@ronito886]

You’re right, the added loft and 1” shorter Cleveland club makes a big difference! I tried the Ping ChipR but returned and exchanged it for the C wedge. It works much better for me, plus I saved $60.

[@colinhealy4437]

Very interesting Gary. Manufacturers keep trying to make us put our hands in our pockets and a lot of the time it's all hype and no substance. Clubs are not that much different down through the years and it still comes down to club head speed correctly applied. Another interesting video. We'll done to your guinea pig tester. He's not as bad at chipping as he described.

[@garymartingolf]

He said he was rubbish! I was abit disappointed, he was better than I thought 😅

[@danielwinterbottom5531]

I certainly couldn't vindicate taking another club out to replace it. But people that are abit sketchy around the green I think it will be a great addition. Especially now with super hot faces on irons like p790 been harder to control playing delicate shots

[@davidosborne3440]

Great review

[@garymartingolf]

Thanks 😊

[@kevinscott2780]

I bought the Cleveland chipper and have it in the bag. I’m a 16 handicap. I think like anything else you still have to practice those shots to make them count out on the course. It’s not a magic wand.

[@thomasesparza9175]

Just like all those $500-700 drivers that promise all of those extra 30-50 yards! Like the golfing saying goes, "It's the Indian, not the Arrow!"

[@wajopek2679]

If you are in the market for chipper try the Benross Jigger. At £29 online with graphite shaft you can't go wrong.(BTW....nice meeting you Gary at Bradley Park).

[@garymartingolf]

I’ll order one of those for a vlog, it’ll be a great video, as I think people do want to try one now they’ve seen the ping, but don’t want to splash £149. Nice to meet you 👌🏼

[@shauncrowcroft5855]

Cracking review that 👍

[@garymartingolf]

Thanks Shaun 👍🏼

[@chrissellings]

Please excuse my 2nd comment Gaz. P790 and bouncy face type of distance irons are not the best to chip with. Too hot. I noticed that your test subject using the Taylormades. Maybe if they are carrying these types of iron then a chipper is a good idea. But what club to leave out?! Probably lob wedge. If they can't chip in the first place what are the odds they got the skills to spin a 60 degree open.

[@garymartingolf]

Very very good point!!! You’re right!

[@johntown1454]

Just started watching, I've started using my hybrid/7wood for some chips (as recommended by the short game expert Chris Dennis😁). For most other chips I follow the technique favoured by OMP on Golfmates. Won't be spending money I can't afford on a Chip-R

[@garymartingolf]

I agree, there’s other ways to skin a cat 😃

[@johntown1454]

😸

[@mikereed3287]

I use my 9 iron for most chipping so I would have to see a vast improvement with the Ping club. Especially for the price of over $150 for the club.

[@garymartingolf]

I’m the same. I think I’m going to do abit more testing with it off camera.

[@edanzore]

How about practice. Somple

[@joeperez3520]

I always avoided using a chipper since I always prefer to chip with an 6-8 Iron, which has a similar loft. But I purchased both the Cleveland Smart Sole Chipper and the PING ChipR after seeing videos from James Robinson and Mark Crossfield, two sources I trust. So, far, they have been COSTING me more strokes than they've saved. Because they are very upright, like a putter, it requires a VERY not chip-with-an-iron swing, which is a chipping swing that I am quite used to. Maybe it's me, but the swingweight of the ChipR seem very heavy as well, something I do not care for.

[@garymartingolf]

Good points Joe. If you had to chose only one, which would you play. When I tested the ping, I think it works best stood square on, weight 50/50, middle of the stance, shaft vertical. Like you said, not a conversation chipping setup.

[@joeperez3520]

@@garymartingolf I like the Ping more, as well. Cleveland has a wider sole, but the ChipR just feels like it bounces more through the ground (I believe the $20 terminology is "turf interaction").

[@ronito886]

I much prefer the Cleveland Smart Sole chipper. As noted, the Ping seemed too heavy for me. I also get along better with 42* of loft vs 38*.

[@markk171]

When chipping with 8 or 9 iron, I choke down, move closer to the ball and set the club a bit more toe down allowing the shaft to be more vertical...like a putter...then I just use a putting stroke. So for me I don't see how this would really benefit. I can see how this would help those that have the yips and can't practice chipping much.

[@petermolyneux9544]

I'd love to try one, but usual leftie problem. Even Ping can't tell me where to find a left handed one to try, and I'm not forking out £150 without trying it first.

[@garymartingolf]

There must be a demo day coming up nearby

[@kimhannemann]

did you mention the more upright shaft on the chip-r? Meant to make it more like putter and so you play it closer to your body,

[@hoppman6649]

I have one on order, it will replace my 54, not embarassed if it helps my game, I also have the Cleveland Smart Sole C.

[@lexxwhite747]

I'm curious if that club could be used as a training aid for people who struggle chipping. If someone used it exclusively for practice at the range, would the positions and movements needed for better chipping translate to the rest of their short clubs, or would they just become reliant on the chipper?

[@nickjohns999]

As a 19 index senior my short game is the weakest part of my game, and resistant to coaching. My bag is full of clubs to make golf easier - hybrid irons, high loft fairways, sure out wedge and spider putter. I put the Ping ChipR in my bag three weeks ago and have played nine rounds since. It has saved me shots, I am ending nearer the hole. It plays anywhere from 90 yards and in where height is not a requirement. The weight balance and lie make it feel virtually impossible to miss hit. The only issue was which club to take out of the bag. Eventually I took out a high loft hybrid purely on having another that goes the same distance. I will not let ego dictate club choices over lower scores. Well worth the money for me. It is pointless pros and expert golfers talking about how they have other clubs already to do the job of the ChipR - of course they do, this club is not for them with their technique. This is a well thought out, balanced, great feeling, and confidence inspiring club for those that need it - you know who you are!

[@keith1704]

Still using the Matt Fitizpatric, reversed hand method you reviewed a while ago, with a 9 iron, still feels a bit odd but the control and results are great, why have another club, waste of a club. But bottom line is does it work for you

[@garymartingolf]

Very true. I’m still using it too ✌🏼

[@keith1704]

👍👍⛳️

[@keith1704]

Gary, Looks like the SCAMMERS are out again!!

[@chrissellings]

I've been using my hybrid for some select shots round the greens kind of chips for 15 years now using a putting stroke. I even go left hand low like my putting stroke. I think that more often than not that people who struggle with chipping have got poor technique and go for too much loft Gaz. It's so easy to chip with a 7 iron on an upslope. So no. Chipper would be a waste of space in my bag.

[@deviusfeilds]

My 56 and my 50 are +1 lie angle. I use my 50 almost exclusively within 90 metres of the green (unless I need to go over or out of an obstical, or a can putt off the green). With the 50 I use a putter swing normal swing etc etc. I don't see the need of a chipper for me, everyone who has a chipper raves about it however.

[@haznick]

Obviously the lie angle is a lot more upright compared to a 9i. Couple that with the shorter shaft and its more like a heavy putter with a 9i loft on it.

[@banditbaker1675]

PING didn't design the ChipR for low handicap Golfers. It's been designed for weekend warriors who haemorrhage shots around the Green, By being more upright it allows the Golf to stand nearer to the Ball (as they would for a Putter) so that they can just make an easy rocking motion. As most weekend warriors don't need 14clubs in their Bags with lots of over-laps in yardage between Clubs, they have the opportunity to lose one of their redundant Clubs and replace it with a ChipR that is going to potentially save them 2-3 shots per Round.

[@alexkeighley4354]

He is Sarah, he's all the golf pro's best friends in Sheffield

[@garymartingolf]

Hahah

[@seanchambers8950]

Treat the chipper like a putter. They work! Now for a scratch golfer, I’d say no.

[@garymartingolf]

I agree! I must say, I did like the simplicity! Although I’m not sure I’d want to sacrifice any of my clubs 😅

[@TheECUDave]

They are running about $175.00 stateside.

[@garymartingolf]

Thanks

[@sadoldgit313]

£150 for a Chippr or 5 lessons from your PGA teacher! One might work, the other certainly will!

[@billyfletch]

It's the lie angle!

[@oldfoggie123]

You need to line up as if you are putting not with an open stance!....and use a putting stroke!

[@garymartingolf]

Good tip

[@ryannagel3567]

The purpose of this club is not for perfect greenside lies but is for patchy, dirt lies etc.

[@garymartingolf]

I didn’t actually know that! Very good point.

[@voyager8195]

He is pitching the chipr not chipping it should also be a putting stroke

[@garymartingolf]

Yeah. I didn’t want to coach him, as the idea was to show wether somebody buying one would have improved results over a 9 iron in their set without coaching.

[@harryrichardson7728]

£149

[@garymartingolf]

Thanks

[@golfingCitizen]

Never use a 9 iron to the first pin, way to close.... better test would have been PW vs Chpr to the first pin....A lesson to simplify his tekkers and some practice would help their guy. I'm off 5.5 and happy with 50,54 and 58. Wouldn't be seen dead with a cheat stick however I know a guy who has the old style chipper and hits from the apron upto 150 yards away and bunkers!!! #useless 🤣 £149 online

[@playingbadgolfwell9732]

Exactly. That''s why I still use persimmon woods and wound balata balls. 😀

[@garymartingolf]

I agree, you wouldn’t use a 9 iron, it was just that the chipper was 38.5*.

[@golfingCitizen]

@@garymartingolf Bob on. Top content BTW

[@golfingCitizen]

@@garymartingolf did.I.win?..

[@kbrown4ou]

Reminds me of all the golfers who are too lazy to learn to properly hit a 2-iron and instead go with hacker’s hybrids. (Said tongue in cheek). I felt like a cheating hacker when I first started using a hybrid and had that same feeling when I tried a chipper, even though I was confident in my chipping 90% of the time with an iron or wedge. But now, old enough to where it’s easier to swallow my ego, I carry a hybrid and a chipper and am confident 100% of the time using either club. I did have to stop carrying a 2-iron however to make room.

[@ovdad]

177 usd

[@davidcooper3317]

Unfair review really this guy Can chip.. haven't seen any bad technique using his own 9 iron . The review should have been done with a BAD chipper

[@garymartingolf]

If your chipping is worse, get yourself booked in, I’d love to do a video. Ideally with someone who shanks it.

[@davidcooper3317]

@@garymartingolf you pay for my return flights from New Zealand and I will come for the lesson. Will bring my Ping Chip R when it turns up

[@plitt6666]

179 US

[@kevinpayton9240]

Gary think rrp £169 ish

[@garymartingolf]

Thanks

[@kevinpayton9240]

Pro at my club, had three delivered Thursday morning...all gone by close of play..

[@deadlymantis4210]

IMO i think this was the wrong comparison of club and shouldn't be compared to a 9i...

[@garymartingolf]

Why ?

[@marksakowski9272]

I wouldn't show my face around a golf course if I chipped like that.

[@edanzore]

Take a lesson and practice

[@garymartingolf]

I think in Adams case, he could do with learning the correct chipping technique.

[@edanzore]

@@garymartingolf a chipper is a limited club. How does one use a chipper when short sided over a bunker? Why not use the same stroke as a chipper on your irons? Gimmick

[@TAYLORFAN50]

@@edanzore - No one implied they would use a chipper for that shot. Duh! 🙄