Can Toshiro Become as STRONG as Yamamoto?

Can Toshiro Become as STRONG as Yamamoto?
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[@Grayson-Winchester]

He should have developed a friendly competition with Ichigo who was stated to be more talented than Urahara

[@JayeshPawar-er6sj]

Fun fact. Kenpachi, toshiro, and byakuya are part of a trio. Where kenpachi represent pinnacle of physical stats , while toshiro represent hax and abilities and byakuya. Skills wisdom and battle iq in soul society

[@fitzwilliams4215]

Torshiro is just bleach's Gohan

[@LucidStrike]

Yama also mastered kido and hand-to-hand. Toshiro got many miles to go. We'll see.

[@helios9296]

Yama wasn't always yama, Hitsugaya is the equivalent of an 10 yo being who was stronger than halve of the 200+ yo captains, his powers isn't weaker than most, more over, shunsui(who's power I'd place in 4th or 5th) stated, Hitsugaya was so talented he'd probably catch up to him in a 100 years or so.

[@Odontomango]

Kyoraku also literally said to Stark that Toshiro would be stronger than him after around 100 years.

[@edwardrobinson8027]

Adult toshiro is stronger than Yamamoto already

[@atcera8714]

Some manga readers keep saying Toshiro's Bankai fully developed can freeze everything without diving into any details about how it would be stronger than Rukia's bankai which freezes things at absolute zero. In the anime and manga up to the end, yes Toshiro's bankai is technically stronger because Rukia's still remains incomplete. But let's bring it into what if territory, Rukia's bankai fully controlled and developed vs Hitsugaia's also fully developed. Hitsugaia's bankai freezes literally everything including reishi by utilizing moisture in the atmosphere(which doesn't seem feasible even within fantasy), but Rukia's bankai just borders on supernatural whereby it just sucks heat out of everything, thus being able to freeze at absolute zero, mechanics behind their power aside, Rukia's seems slightly stronger unless Hitsugaia gains some "my temperature can't change" power and is able to move within range to freeze Rukia's reishi

[@partzrivalcamaya845]

Having a bankai early on your career don’t mean squat if you spam it and still barely make it out alive every single time. Being a protoge only means you’re great for your age, it doesn’t guarantees you’ll continue to develop the same pace all throughout your life. Many overhype adult Toshiro don’t forget he was with two top captains and they didn’t even win.

[@IveBeenWithBruma]

No because unlike Yama, Toshiro lacks the intent to kill on site unlike the vast majority of the captains.

[@somerandomguywhoschillin3540]

"Without spoiling too much"

[@Abyssionknight]

According to Shunsui when facing Stark, he said it'd only take Hitsugaya another 100 years to surpass him. Consideringt he fact that in TYBW Shunsui is the captain commander, and that we do get to eventually see how strong he is, I do think Toshiro will surpass Yamamoto if you give him a millennia or two.

[@Manuel-gt9jf]

The other problem is toshiro gets way to emotional during fights he needs to learn from byakuya

[@daveTHEdirty]

Imagine being a professional fighter just to see some random 14-year-old in the same division as you.

[@thanatoskw8285]

“Without spoiling too much, here is, conservatively, 95% of the spoiler:”

[@kaminoyami30]

never let this short make you forget that aizen and ywach had to take away yamas power in order to beat him

[@ezramiller8936]

Given time, he absolutely will become as strong as or stronger than Yamamoto was (unless the hell arch allows Yamamoto another big buff).

[@jocoolshow]

People not ready to hear this, but the feats, stats and scaling Toshiro showed against Vollstandig Gerard who was Miracle Amped by Bankai Kenpachi are better than the feats, stats and scaling showed by Bankai Yamamoto against Royd who’s 70-80% of Base Yhwach. I’ll go stat by stat

[@metalxmecha567]

It’s weird Toshiro has the same capability to reach Yamamoto level, Shunsui himself said that in the next few hundred years Toshiro will surpass him which was saying a lot for the freshly appointed Captain Commander. I still feel like Yama would have the edge due to war experience

[@why___me]

the only one who mastered his bankai before becoming a shinigami and the youngest ever