Can We Trust the Standard Islamic Narrative? - S.I.N. VS Historical Evidence - Brother Mel - E4

[@proverbs2522]

Without lies islam dies

[@generaljg4373]

Only pagan religions demand human sacrifice for salvation

[@sultanahamed2484]

Is Trinity not false is salvation not fase

[@sultanahamed2484]

Is virgin birth not false than which false u speak

[@sultanahamed2484]

@@ceeotter just like sacrifice of human for salvation

[@samuelflores1419]

​@@sultanahamed2484Maybe if you took the time to research what and why you would understand. As always you do No research about what you think you know. I would suggest you Research your Own beliefs first! You will find that SIN has HOLES in it! Is your allah okay with Sharia law for all the land?

[@1968gadgetyo]

This is so opposite from biblical archelogy. Time and time again, people who try to debunk the biblical narrative found that history and archelogy supports the biblical narrative.

[@georgeo785]

The devil tries to copy everything God does. That's why we have so many man made cults. Anyone that hates or commits murder is a follower of the devil. The devil loses bigtime in the end. Soon

[@justinarzola4584]

The standard Islamic narrative is basically " trust us bro this really happened at this time" 😂.

[@generaljg4373]

Without lies christianity slowly disappear without a trace

[@BigSam33]

Without lies Islam dies.

[@georgeo785]

@@justinarzola4584 trust the devil

[@surenthiren8663]

Thanks brother al fadi and mel for another exciting session. The truth never dies. 😊

[@ImCarolB]

Thank you, Brother Mel, for all the research you do!

[@generaljg4373]

Christianity has no connection to abraham, abraham worshipped one God but Christian's worship three gods

[@IslamicOrigins]

@@generaljg4373 Give me one example from a Christian creed that supports your wild and illiterate claim? I will be waiting....

[@alexyeshua5755]

May the Lord shut your blasphemous mouth and bring you to repentence, or remove you.

[@mikejohnson5059]

Great work

[@generaljg4373]

The bible has many contradictions and hilarious scientific errors

[@mikejohnson5059]

@@generaljg4373 the subject here is the Quran.

[@divyachacko3449]

Waiting already for the next video

[@ethercruiser1537]

The Standard Islamic Narrative seems off by at least 3 years on multiple battles. What else is it off on?

[@justinarzola4584]

Many things, most damning is that no evidence or saying of the Kaaba before the quaran and the accounts of Muhammad coming from areas outside Arabia and over 2 century's after his supposed death, you would think we would have accounts during his life or only around 20 years after his death? "Very suspicious".

[@rockzalt]

Was the dating of the sources for these alternative dates ever mentioned?

[@vicmath1005]

I call it the *Abbasid* *1slamic* *Narrative.* The Abbasids were most likely Parthians or Afghans. They were strongly influenced by priest-less Buddhism. One of the first things they did was to erect (or rather reestablish) a rival Kaaba at Petra, c. 760 CE, *minus* *the* *Nazarene* *priests.* The Kaaba that 'Umar ibn al-Khattab established on the Temple Mount had *Nazarene* *priests.* These *Nazarene* *priests* remained on the Temple Mount Kaaba until at least the 12th century. The Abbasids changed the 1slamic faith entirely.

[@SzTz100]

The Umayyads did a lot of damage as well.

[@vicmath1005]

@@SzTz100 The Umayyads did not change the faith. The faith was Nazarene: Law of Moses + Jesus the Messiah. Until 750 CE when Abbasids started ruling, the faith-managers were always the *Nazarene* *clergy.* The qur-an (Q 10:94) tell the the faithful to get their doubts cleared from the Nazarene clergy. By removing the Nazarene clergy, the Abbasids changed the faith entirely. Most of the interpretations of the qur-an under their sponsorship became meaningless.

[@alonzoharris9049]

@@vicmath1005 You need mental help.

[@timmy1tap678]

Yes there's evidence to suggest that the Arabs in different regions were practicing various versions of an odd mish-mash of Judiasm, Paganism and Christianity and then at some point effort was made to completely divert..however, it seems things changed over time piece by piece to try and make the end result, Islam, appear more appealing as a distinct and unified religion of their own..but watching scholars now attempt to justify Islam as an extension of Judaism/Christianity is mind-boggling..it teaches the literal opposite in most every aspect

[@vicmath1005]

@@timmy1tap678 The key root word appearing all over the qur-an is nṣr (نصر). The words generated from it apply to different contexts: Nazarene, Nazirite, and in very few instances, Christian. The Mus1ims have not understood what these terms mean. They interpret them as "Christians" and "helpers"! Nṣr is not an Arabic root word. It is an Aramaic root word. Is1am was never an off-shoot of Christianity. The Nazarene was a sect started by the apostles of Jesus, in Jerusalem. They had to move out of Judaea soon after 70 CE, when the Temple was destroyed. Some went to Syria (e.g. Aleppo), many went to Aksum, and many would have gone and settled in Alexandria and other North African cities. From Aksum, they moved to Himyar c. 360 CE when Ezana declared the Trinitarian Christianity (Tawhid) as the state religion. By 380 CE they became the rulers of Himyar.

[@sebastiank1714]

The Blue Pill, stay in Wonderland, ... wake up in your bed... Or... Take the Red Pill and you'll find out how deep the Rabbit Hole goes. Remember all I am offering is the TRUTH.

[@SzTz100]

I'm a Muslim, and I find all of these videos very fascinating. There seems to be a lot of re-writing of Islamic history by the Caliphs. I am still in the Rabbit hole.

[@trevorgriffiths5611]

@@SzTz100 wait till you find out that there was NO pre-Islamic Mecca.. That will really bust your noodle..😄

[@mysteriesmadeknown2874]

Jeremiah 31:31 “Behold, the days are coming, says the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah 32 not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt, My covenant which they broke, though I was a husband to them, says the Lord. 33 But this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord: I will put My law in their minds, and write it on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people. Matthew 26:27 Then He took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, “Drink from it, all of you. 28 For this is My blood of the new covenant, which is shed for many for the remission of sins. Hebrews 9:15 For this reason Christ is the mediator of a new covenant, that those who are called may receive the promised eternal inheritance now that he has died as a ransom to set them free from the sins committed under the first covenant.

[@SzTz100]

And here lies the problem. This makes no sense.

[@mysteriesmadeknown2874]

@sz Tz Becoming a Christian means we are in the Lord's new promise like God promised and not the old one.

[@RaptureIsNEAR7634]

Without the shedding of blood there is no remission of sin.....

[@tabooissues]

Wish u all Collabaration of many ex Muslims to expose the deadly cult idealogy ..

[@shahadathkadir]

Ezekiel. 20 :25. " I also give them statutes that were not good for them & laws through which they could not live by ". Statutes that were not good . God telling His prophet Isaiah ( Prince of the Prophets) Isaiah. 20 :12 " At the same time spake the Lord to Isaiah, son of Amoz, . Go & loose the sackcloth from off thy loins , & put thy shoe from off thy foot , & he did so , walking naked & barefoot ". God telling His prophet to walk naked in front his sister , daughter granny ? for 3 yrs preaching up & down the place, Naked ? Not even a G- string ? " Behold , I will corrupt your seed & spread dung upon your faces . & u shall eat it as barley cakes & bake it with fresh dung that commeth out of man ". Ezekiel 4 :12.

[@y.israel922]

😅😂 Fun time with Fadi , eventually Fading away Hellelujah ✝️ 🏴‍☠️ 🔥 💯 של החברה הישראלית בישראל את העבודה שלי הוא 👿

[@thomascoyle4924]

Didn't the Roman church change the calendar to the Gregorian calendar so the date would change

[@jasdreamcatcher668]

So why do they continue to deny the truth.. everything is out in the open ..Why fo they still follow something that does not exits..

[@eswn1816]

Because that how cult-like thought works.

[@justinarzola4584]

Because they have been brainwashed and indoctrinated by their sheiks and imams since childhood like good cult followers.

[@shahadathkadir]

Should we believe the Bible is the " inspired word of God ? Can we trust it's narrative ? The Bible says NO ! " Therefore , look, the lord has placed a lying spirit in all those prophets of yours & has declared disaster against you ". 1 Kings. 22 :23 . The lying spirits - " Now this man ( Judas) purchased a field with the wages of iniquity & falling headlong , he burst open in the middle & all his entrails gushed out ". But a different story in Matthew , 27 :5. " Then he threw down the pieces of silver in the temple floor & departed & went & hung himself ". Luke. 24 " 9. " When the women came back from the tomb they told all these things to the eleven & all the others ". But in Mark. 16 :8. " Trembling & bewildered the women rushed out & fled the tomb,. They said nothing to anyone because they were afraid ".

[@natalissatriajuventus7989]

Islam Will die. Thanks from Indonesia 🇮🇩

[@Shalom99143]

Islam means hypocrisy that's all which misled God's People centuries. Praise God HE WHO has Revealed His Judgement too so that none of islamic's idol worshipper with false profession can escape His Judgement. Alleluia n Amen. Shalom CIRA Ministry of God's Love n Trust in Truth of Jesus's Our Salvation. Amen n tnku❤🕊️🎉🌲

[@Shalom99143]

@@defenderoftruth3212 what a pity that the People's as you with false knowledge are not enlighted by Truth of God Holy Spirit, but living in misery n mere faith which is as curse. ops

[@megaspit]

Did mel delete his channel?

[@IslamicOrigins]

It is here.

[@carey7676]

…..that has holes in it?………NO….

[@freethinker3054]

Islamic history is somewhat true. The earliest evidence is a coin minted in ibn al Zubair's reign who was the grandson of Abu Bakr. So mugMads existence is true, Islam was a sect of Israel-based monotheism which helped Arabs to conquer the known world. It was constantly changed from time to time and was standardized during the first Abbasid reign. As Seneca says, religion always helped rulers whether it is Pisslam or Christianity

[@alonzoharris9049]

There was no Israel. Jews have never been one ethnicity. These are all myths.

[@alexandernorman5337]

I don't think any of us believe that "islamic history" is wholly false though. Rather, we believe that it is greatly embellished/altered. And CIRA does a good job of showing that again and again. Lack of agreement in dating with Sassanians, no historical evidence for Mecca pre 8th century, the impossibility for Muhammad to have lived in Mecca if the description contained in the quran is true, etc. But hey, whether islamic history is 50% true or 0% true doesn't matter. Either way - it can't be trusted.

[@RaptureIsNEAR7634]

@@alonzoharris9049 hahaha sound like you hate Jews so much that you don't want them to exist......how muslim hate Jews just because they debunked Muhammdophile every time he try to show himself that he's a prophet

[@justinarzola4584]

Israel?, Islam has it's roots in gnostic Christianity, that's how they got the infancy gospel and Jesus not being dead but placed in with a substitute by their pagan god allah, only thing Islam kept from the jews was kosher laws regarding food and ways of living or the halal/haram system.

[@yajujmajuj1739]

The standard narrative has hoooles in it

[@shahadathkadir]

. Paul . 1 Corinthians. 7 :6. " But I speak this by permission & NOT BY COMMAND ". Spoken by permission . Peter - Repent & be baptized , everyone, in the name of Jesus". Acts. 2 :38. Paul - Baptize in the name of the Father , the son & the Holy Ghost ". Jesus was circumcised on the 8th day. Paul - Circumcision is nothing . Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday .

[@MilkHoney-rz6sd]

I 🧑‍🌾 Islam is Allah’s True Religion, Islam means - Submit To His Will, Q3:83….Its in Ur own Book & U dont even know it Dear Christians👉🏿Luke 11:2 - Thy Will Be Done On Earth As It Is In Heaven (Correction - Heavens/Space/7 Levels Of Heavens/Universe) To Judge the credibility of a book U have to see if the contents have error & contradiction, Q4:82, Q2:23-24….Does Bible have errors & contradictions? Yes Tons & Lorries 🚚 of them!, Q3:71, Q5.15…Lets match against Quran The No Error Purified Book, Q10:15, Q15:9, Q2:23-24, Q4:82, Q98:2 Eg Matthew 5:7 - Jesus had to establish Allah’s Laws, John 14:15, Ecclesiastes 12:13, Deauterenomy 7:11 VS Matthew 5:38-39 - Jesus knocked off Allah’s Qisas Law, Leviticus 24:19-21, Q5:43, Q5:45, Q2:194 (Battle Qisas)…Thats called a contradiction…Another Eg John 8:1-11, Jesus promotes Zina/Forbidden Sexual Intercourse by letting go of The Zaniyah/Female Offender Of Zina VS Q24:2-3, Lashing Allah Says He had given Jesus A Book👉🏿Q19:3O…And his followers had named it The Gospel/Injeela & this Book contains Heavy Words/Divine Laws & Commandments (As all other Kitabs, Q73:5) 👉🏿Q5:47 (Same meaning as Torah, Q5:44) So Judge by It (The Gospel/Injeela, Q5:46, Q5:110) O People Of The GospelS/injeeli (Mark, Luke, Matthew & John)… Traces of His Laws are still in Ur 4 GospelS/Injeeli as I mentioned earlier Eg 👉🏿John 8:1-11, Matthew 5:38-39… These are corrupted Laws so COME TO ALLAH (Quran), Q5:65-69, Q47:1-3, Q2:120, Clear?👍🏿 What are U saying Dear Christians, that my God is different from Ur God? Do U have 1 nose, 1 mouth, 2 ears & 2 eyes like me?, Q32:9… Is Ur Rain blue color & mine red? Is there only one Sun for us? Are we inhaling the same oxygen & staring at the same Sky? Dont be B_ird-Brains🦅okay? Allah Says He hates the word Father, Q5:18…Whats wrong with Children Of Israel?🙄Torah is indeed A Breeding Ground For Trinity👉🏿Isaah 48:16👉🏿1 John 5:7….Look👉🏿Genesis 3:7-10 (Deaf 2nd Yawheh in Garden Of Adam & Eve), Genesis 3:7-10 (Deaf God-Jesus in Garden Of Adam & Eve) Let me ask U this Question Dear Christians…Can any so called Christian Country apply this Verse?👉🏿Matthew 5:38-39 VS Q2:194 (Battke Qisas) If U say yes, I will sl_ap one side of Ur cheek then turn the other cheek for me pls👋…If U say no, then COME TO ALLAH (Quran) coz Ur Religion cannot save U on Judgement Day, Q2:111, Q2:120, Q2:135 - Christisnity & Judaism are Musyrik Religions…No there are no real Christian Countries in this World today Dear Christians… All of the Laws in Ur Book are D_mb & not practica for modern people!…If its not d_mb then its Evil Rabbinic Satanic Laws👉🏿Leviticus 20:10, Leviticus 20:13, Deauterenomy 13:6-9, Numbers 27:1-8, Deauterenomy 24:1🤠 So God-Jesus Took His Own Soul?👉🏿Matthew 27:50… Haha & The Ha!😝First of all Dear Christians, Jesus WAS (means had wafat/died in natural death, Q3:55 - Mutawafika means Take Soul with root word Wafat…Deauterenomy 21:22-23 matches with Q4:157) just a human…Yes a human in flesh who had lived amongst his people , John 1:14… He consumed Food & Beverage🍉🍒just like the rest of us, Q5:75, Q21:8 & he had an Expiry Term on Earth & had used it, Q21:8, Q7:25, Q21:35…Thats what A Prophet is, just a human👉🏿Matthew 21:11, Q4:171, Q43:59…U like to quote this? - Jesus is Lord Of The Lords, King Of The Kings… Add this pls - Jesus is Prophet Of The Prophets😝 2nd Dear Christians, did God ever enter into Creation/Space/Heavens/7 Level Of Heavens/Universe?.. Again, Ur Bible has contradictions👉🏿Acts 17:24 VS Issaah 66:1, Acts 7:49… What is the meaning of Incarnation? Answer pls! Haha & The Ha!😝Dear Christians, dont say Thy Kingdom Come, Luke 11:2… Coz Allah’s Kingdom will never come down only Him & His Heavenly Triops next time to Judge us, Q89:22-23, Q75:23, Q78:38…This is where Alkah’s Kingdom is👉🏿Q39:75, Q53:12-18…Just outside (Very near) The Border/The Edge Of The Universe/The Edge Of 7th Level Of Heaven/The Edge Of Space where there are no more planets…See Allah is Watching U & me Dear Christians, Q2:19, Q50:16… And He knows who are The True Believers (Q42.15, Q46:13, Q47:1-3, Q45:30, Q65:11, Q9:72) AND who is Worse Than The Moving Creatures, Q8:55, Q98:6, Q9:29, Q2:8, Q2:228…So for U Guys who still Believe in Eg Missing Pages From Quran or The 2nd Coming Of Jesus, its not too late to COME TO ALLAH fully (Believe in Quran 100%) Q42.10, Q3:31, Q2:208, Q3:103… Muhamnad’s sunnah (also all the other Prophets) were all based on Quran👉🏿Q33:15-16, Q12:108 - This is the way/sabili/sunnah I (Muhammad) invite U to ALLAH (Quran) …So if U FEAR ALLAH (Quran) then follow Muhammad’s teachings (based on Quran), Q3:31, Q3:85 - Die in Islam based on Quran CS Q7:37-39, Enter Fire🔥 Jesus is The First And The Last?, Revelations 1:17 VS Q57:1…Kiss my foot!😝Jesus’s beginning started in the tiny wall of his spinster mommy’s womb!… Q19:17, Allah’sOwn Spirit/His Spirit/Ou Spirit came down & turned into A Man’ & this ‘Man’ Breathed Allah’s Own Spirit/Hus Spirit/Our Spirit/The Holy Spirit Spirit onto Mary’s body👉🏿Q21:91, Q66:12, Q4:171, So The Holy Spirit turned into A Nafsin/The Soul, Q4:1 in Mary body that is Jesus’s Soul…This Soul will start fetous formation in Mary’s womb, Q3:6…So Jesus was borned after 9 mths in mommy’s womb & life begins for him, Q19:23-34…See, he was protected by Allah just like other Main Prophets, Q19:33, Q8:30, Q6:34, Q33:56, Q19:13, Q21:69….So Q4:157 - He was not killed nor was he crucified - Allah had destroyed Ur Cross Dear Christians👉🏿1 Corinthians 15:14…No Roman Cross but only Al-Yahud’s murder plot, Q3:54, Q4:155… Come ask me for more Verses on Jesus’s death in Quran🤠 Look at this Verse👉🏿Job 33:4 - The Spirit Of God had made me but The Breath Of The Al-Mighty had given me life - The information in this Verse is half wrong… Allah only Breath/Strenghthen a mommy’s body once not twice with His Own Spirit/Our Spirit/The Holy Spirit, Q32:9…This Spirit in his mommy’s body is now called The Soul/Nafsin, Q4:1…How Jesus was formed - Q19:17, Q66:12, Q21:91, Allah sent down His Own Spirit/The Holy Spirit/Our Spirit to Mary & it turned into ‘A Man’… This ‘Man’ Breathed/Strengthened Mary’s body with Allah’s Own Spirit/The Holy Spirit/Our Spirit & Mary conceived on the spot👉🏿Q19:22, Q3:6

[@ryder-m5r]

Description Al Fadi, former Wahabbi Muslim from Saudi Arabia and the founder of CIRA International: The Center for Islamic Research and Awareness. He is the researcher, editor, writer, and translator for numerous ministries, including "Answering Islam" and runs an outreach ministry designed for non-Muslim and Christians lemme add that one for you "and a liar and a deceiver" so go on and delete my comment if you dare cuz god himself is a witness for my comment and so the viewers here سورة Sura النجم An-Najm آية Aya 28 إِن يَتَّبِعُونَ إِلَّا الظَّنَّ translation : "They follow nothing but conjecture"

[@1955matt]

First!

[@ajjony4866]

90 Verses That Say: Jesus is Not God Nor the Literal Son of God Jesus cannot be God because he depended on God for his own existence. Bible says that Jesus' powers were given to him. 'All power is given unto me.' (Matt 28:18). 90

[@alonzoharris9049]

Mel believes in three gods.

[@lizzard13666]

Hi Alonzo! I see you around all the time! Are you a Biblical Unitarian too?

[@alonzoharris9049]

@mysotiras 018 The resurrected zombies are historical?🤓

[@IslamicOrigins]

No, I don't you liar. Thanks for proving that Islam is a lying religion. You make my work so much easier. I believe in one God. Shame that you have zero integrity and zero credibility.

[@georgeo785]

Someone please send harris an exorcist. he's under the devil's control.

[@salman6978]

Christianity is idolatry and God has destroyed idol worship before he going do again when promise time came

[@aaronharun1394H]

Christians should follow Jesus and pray to the one God who Jesus prayed to. Jesus prayed TO the one God. Jesus is NOT the one God.

[@lucent9587]

maybe learn what trinitarians believe, the group that dominated in the wake of Jesus, before you try to make some type of argument. Jesus also stated that he existed before abraham and that he shared glory with god before creation. it's almost like god is more than one person.

[@aaronharun1394H]

God is only one. God is not one group of three. God sent messengers. God is not a messenger. Jesus was a messenger from a long line of messengers that includes Noah, Abraham and Moses. Messengers are chosen from men to convey message to men. And We have already SENT Noah and Abraham and placed in their descendants prophethood and scripture; and among them is he who is guided, but many of them are defiantly disobedient. Then We SENT following their footsteps Our messengers and followed [them] with Jesus, the son of Mary, and gave him the Injil (Gospel). (Al-Quran 57: 26-27) Then We SENT after them Moses with Our signs to Pharaoh and his establishment, but they were unjust toward them. So see how was the end of the corrupters. And Moses said, O Pharaoh, I am a messenger from the Lord of the worlds Obligated not to say about Allah except the truth. I have come to you with clear evidence from your Lord, so send with me the Children of Israel. (Al-Quran 7: 103-105) And We did certainly give Moses the Torah and followed up after him with messengers. (Al-Quran 2: 87) The Messiah, son of Mary, was not but a messenger; [other] messengers have passed on before him. And his mother was a supporter of truth. (Al-Quran 5: 75) Their messengers said to them, "We are only men like you, but Allah confers favor upon whom He wills of His servants. It has never been for us to bring you evidence except by permission of Allah . And upon Allah let the believers rely. (Al-Quran 14: 11) God sent Jesus. God is not Jesus. Allah chooses from the angels, messengers and from men. Surely, Allah is All-Hearing, All-Seeing. (Al-Quran 22: 75) There are angel messengers He sends down the angels, with the inspiration of His command, upon whom He wills of His servants, "Warn that there is no ilah (deity/god) except Me; so fear Me." (Al-Quran 16: 2) Angel Gabriel is referred to as The Spirit. And mention, in AlKitab (the Book), Mary, when she withdrew from her family to a place toward the east. And she took, in seclusion from them, a screen. Then We sent to her Our Spirit (Angel Gabriel), and he represented himself to her as a well-proportioned man. She said, "Indeed, I seek refuge in the Most Merciful from you, [so leave me], if you should be fearing of Allah ." He said, "I am only the messenger of your Lord to give you [news of] a pure boy." She said, "How can I have a boy while no man has touched me and I have not been unchaste?" He said, "Thus [it will be]; your Lord says, 'It is easy for Me, and We will make him a sign to the people and a mercy from Us. And it is a matter [already] decreed.' (Al-Quran Translation/interpretation Chapter Mary/Maryam(19) : 16-21) Gabriel identified himself to Mary as "the messenger of your Lord". The story of Gabriel appearing before Mary(Maryam) to inform her about her future son (Jesus/Isa) is also mentioned in the gospels. *Angels informing the coming of a newborn child is consistent with angels visiting Abraham and his wife informing them about their future son, Isaac and Jacob and an angel informing Zachariah about his future son, John (Yahya), both incidents mentioned in the current gospels and in the Quran. Angel Gabriel (Jibril) is mentioned by name as the one who brought down the Quran to Prophet Muhammad: Say, "Whoever is an enemy to Jibril (Gabriel) - it is he who has brought it (the Qur'an) down upon your heart, [O Muhammad], by permission of Allah, confirming that which was before it and as guidance and good tidings for the believers." Whoever is an enemy to Allah and His angels and His messengers and Jibril and Mikal (Michael) - then indeed, Allah is an enemy to the disbelievers. (Al-Quran translation 2: 97-98) The one who brought it down is also referred to as below: And indeed, it (the Qur'an) is the revelation of the Lord of the worlds. Has brought it down by Arruhul-amin (The Trustworthy Spirit) (Al-Quran translation 26: 192- 193) Say, [O Muhammad], "ruhulQudus (spirit of the Holy) has brought it down from your rabb (Lord) in truth to make firm those who believe and as guidance and good tidings to the Muslims." (Al-Quran translations 16: 102) Ruh Al-Quddus is mentioned in the arabic Quran. Ruh meaning spirit, Al-Quddus is one of the names of God, meaning The Holy/ All-Holy/ All-Pure. Angels have wings. [All] praise is [due] to Allah, Creator of the heavens and the earth, [who] made the angels messengers having wings, two or three or four. He increases in creation what He wills. Indeed, Allah is over all things competent. (Al-Quran 35: 1) Who did Jesus actually see descending that is mentioned in the gospels. [Gabriel said], "And we [angels] descend not except by the order of your Lord. To Him belongs that before us and that behind us and what is in between. And never is your Lord forgetful - (Al-Quran 19: 64) God sent angels. God is not an angel. It is not for a human [prophet] that Allah should give him the Scripture and authority and prophethood and then he would say to the people, "Be servants to me rather than Allah," rather, "be rabbaniyyun, because you are teaching the Book, and you are studying it." Nor could he order you to take the angels and prophets as arbaban (lords). Would he order you to disbelief after you had been Muslims? (Al-Quran 3: 79-80) There are angel messengers There are human messengers. God is not an angel. God is not a human. God is only one. God have no son. God is not one third of three. God is not a messenger. God sent messengers. Indeed, Allah is but one ilah (deity/god). Exalted is He above having a son. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And sufficient is Allah as Disposer of affairs. (Al-Quran 4: 171) فِي الْبَدْءِ خَلَقَ اللهُ (Allah) السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالأَرْضَ According to arabic translations of the bible that you can find online, Allah (الله ) is the Creator of the heavens and the earth in Genesis 1: 1 Indeed, your rabb (Lord) is Allah, who created the heavens and earth ... (Al-Quran translation 7: 54) Alaha refers to God in aramaic. Aramaic is a semitic language believed to be spoken by Jesus. Semitic languages include hebrew and arabic and have similarities.

[@leemanwrong]

Why we would trust a book written 600 years later by a man who never even met Jesus? I would rather trust the eye witnesses and people who lived around that time.

[@lucent9587]

@@aaronharun1394H that was a cute copy and paste but all it was in the end was a premise. but you've given people no reason to believe it. all these words come from a pedophile who couldn't tell the difference between god and satan. no thinking mind would follow such a person.

[@aaronharun1394H]

Chosen messengers of God of the past were given revelation and were given task by God throughout history to inform men of the true belief and to warn men of their errors. Noah and Abraham were messengers of God who were sent to warn their communities of their errors of idolatry and the consequences of Hellfire. Idolatry is a grave error and an unforgivable sin. The only way is to repent and leave that believe and practise. The chosen messengers were tasked to inform people of worshipping the one and only true God who created everything and to leave the taking of false deities/gods. Muhammad was also sent to warn the arab pagans at the time of their errors of idolatry. As an ensuing messenger who is also the final messenger chosen after Jesus, Muhammad was also sent to warn the Christians of their error of believing Jesus is God and the consequences of Hellfire. In the gospels, it is mentioned that Jesus was sent. Jesus was a human messenger of God among many human messengers of God that were sent throughout history. The human messengers of God were chosen from humans and were sent to convey message to other humans. The one God who sent Jesus is the same one God who sent Noah is the same one God who sent Abraham is the same one God who sent Moses. The one God is the most High and the one who sends, not someone who is sent.

[@mohamadromzee7394]

Dear Brothers, So many claims and counterclaims. However what is undeniable is the fact that Quran is a miracle when we can no longer witness any miracles from the prophets. What is stated in the Quran are facts which has already been proven or will be proven in the future.

[@lucent9587]

how is that undeniable? I read the quran and it was incoherent gibberish for most of it's content. why should anyone believe that it speaks facts? especially when it says things like this "Till, when he reached the setting-place of the sun, he found it setting in a muddy spring, and found a people thereabout. We said: O Dhu'l-Qarneyn! Either punish or show them kindness."

[@lucent9587]

whatever you responded with youtube deleted so try again

[@mohamadromzee7394]

I have absolutely no issue. I had my responses deleted multiple times. Rarely do you see Muslim preachers lie about the Christian religion but frequently you see christian preachers lie about Islam. My purpose here is simply to educate and warn you and both of us will ultimately meet god to account for our deeds. My beliefs are rational and based on common sense and not on some blind faith. Whereas different christians will give you differently explanations on the trinity. Some are honest enough to say it's a mystery. Put it simply blind faith. I know deep down you have doubts on your beliefs , the only problem is then you have to accept Islam as the truth. I can stand before god and give my arguments , can you? Goto The Muslim Lantern, EFDAWAH and Blogging Theology for the truth.

[@lucent9587]

@@mohamadromzee7394 okay so you have no actual defense for what I put up or a slightly logical argument. people are just supposed to believe what you say because reasons? I have no doubts on my religion whatsoever because mine actually makes sense whereas nothing about islam makes any sense to me. why follow a supposed prophet who can't even tell the difference between god and satan? momo gave satanic verses which proves he can't tell the difference. or why follow someone who says having sex with a child is okay when it's proven to have devastating effects on the girl?

[@Islamisthecultofsin]

@@mohamadromzee7394 You can't show me Mohammed's Quran so Islam doesn't even exist. Who knows who wrote the multitude of Qurans that exist today.

[@ajjony4866]

Jesus did not literally or figuratively fulfill any of Isaiah's words. A wonderful counselor does not advise his followers that if they have faith they can be agents of destruction (Matthew 21: 19-21; Mark 11:14, 20-23). A mighty God does not take orders from anyone (Luke2: 51, Hebrews 5:8), for no one is greater than he is (Matthew 12:31-32; John 5:30, 14:28). Moreover, he does not ask or need to be saved by anyone (Matthew 26: 39, Luke 22:42), for he cannot die by any means (Matthew 27: 50, Mark 15: 37, Luke 23: 46, John 19.: 30). He who is called the Son of God the Father (John 1:18, 3:16) cannot himself be called everlasting Father. One cannot play simultaneously the role of the son and the Father; it is an obvious self-contradiction. He who advocates family strife (Matthew 10: 34-35, Luke 12:49-53) and killing enemies (Luke 19:27) cannot be called a ruler of peace.

[@asifbrettishmaelmakki9]

Hi .Parables are not straight forward to understand.LUKE 19:27 But as for these enemies of mine,who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and slay them before me.' " The above I did think it was Jesus saying,bring them here and slay them before me. And next verse says,when he had said that he went on ahead. Because Jesus went on ahead,it means no slaying was gonna get done,by bring them HERE and slay them. (and it's an understanding fact that Jesus is not a killer). Or LUKE 19:27 But as for these enemies,who did not want me to reign over them,👈 It could be,not about Jesus but about👉 LUKE 19:14 But his citizens hated him and sent an embassy after him, saying, 'We do not want this man to reign over us.' one parable is,A Boss has a land that is leased out.son gets murdered,so Jesus suggest that the Boss himself will get land back so land can give out its fruits again. That parable to me ,the Son murdered is Christ.

[@ajjony4866]

@@asifbrettishmaelmakki9 "If God sent himself to earth as Jesus, who was reigning from heaven during that time? And who raised Jesus from the dead? Who was He praying to? Himself?" Uh, exactly our point. Read you comment back slowly to yourself. And you are claiming WE are the cult? Because we do not believe that "God" sent Himself to die for our sins, so He could then raise Himself up and prepare a Kingdom for Himself where He will sit on His own right hand to rule and reign with His people, all while not doing His own will but the will of Him who sent Him....His Father...or I mean, His will...wait a minute...This is NONSENSE. We are not denying anything other than the absolute QUAGMIRE that is the Trinitarian doctrine. You HAVE to call it a miracle, otherwise, you might have to explain it. Which obviously, can't be done as per your comment. We do not believe Messiah prayed to himself, we do not believe Messiah raised himself up, we do not believe that the Messiah will sit on the right hand of HIMSELF to rule. We believe what the scripture says. John 14:28: My Father is greater than I." John 5:30: By myself I can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who sent me.

[@ajjony4866]

"God is not a man, that He should lie; neither the son of man, that He should repent. Hath He said, and shall He not do it? Or hath He spoken, and shall He not make it good?" Numbers 23:19 KJV The Messiah cannot be God, because God is not a man, period. God does not lie, nor change his mind. And always does what He says He will do.

[@asifbrettishmaelmakki9]

@@ajjony4866. Jesus did not lie or require repentance. Hence he qualifies as god. I believe Jesus told The Devil 👉as it is written you will not temp the Lord your God. That suggest that Jesus is Lord and god/God.

[@ajjony4866]

@@asifbrettishmaelmakki9 Jesus meets no criteria of a god (Matthew 4:1) Jesus was tempted (James 1:13) God cannot be tempted (John 1:29) Jesus was seen (1 John 4:12) No man has ever seen God (Acts 2:22) Jesus was and is a man, sent by God (Numbers 23:19, Hosea 11:9) God is not a man (Hebrews 5:8-9) Jesus had to grow and learn (Isaiah 40:28) God doesn't ever need to learn (1 Corinthians 15:3-4) Jesus died (1 Timothy 1:17) God cannot die (Hebrews 5:7) Jesus needed salvation (Luke 1:37) God doesn't need salvation (John 4:6) Jesus grew weary (Isaiah 40:28) God can't grow weary (Mark 4:38) Jesus slept(Mark 4:38) Jesus slept (Psalm 121:2-4) God doesn't sleep (John 5:19) Jesus wasn't all powerful (Isaiah 45:5-7) God is all powerful. you Idolaters will never learned 🤣, worship a Man is 💯 idoltry.