Can You Beat Fire Emblem The Sacred Stones Only Using Franz?

Another Fire Emblem 8 Solo Run has arrived for your viewing pleasure! Today we see if we can beat Fire Emblem The Sacred Stones using only Franz! Our goal is to test if map control through movement speed actually gives you an advantage over clearing this game!
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Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones is a tactical role-playing game developed by Intelligent Systems, and published by Nintendo for the Game Boy Advance handheld video game console in 2004 for Japan and 2005 in the West. It is the eighth entry in the Fire Emblem series, the second to be released outside Japan, and the third and final title to be developed for the Game Boy Advance after The Binding Blade and its prequel Fire Emblem.
Set in a separate continuity to earlier Fire Emblem titles, The Sacred Stones takes place on the fictional continent of Magvel, which is divided into five nations, each built around a magical stone said to be linked to the imprisonment of an ancient demon. When one of the five nations, the Grado Empire, invades its neighbors and begins destroying the stones, protagonists Eirika and Ephraim of the royal family of Renais set out to gather allies and halt Grado's conquest, while also trying to uncover the reasons for the war. The gameplay is similar to previous Fire Emblem games, focusing on turn-based, tactical movement of units across a grid-based battlefield. Core features of the game include permanent death for characters defeated in battle and support conversations that grant advantages to certain units in battle.
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KratosMVN is a Fire Emblem content creator here on KZbin, who has a deep love for the franchise. His main content on this channel will focus on solo runs and challenge runs of all kinds spanning over the entire Fire Emblem franchise. He held a deep love of Fire Emblem since his childhood when he first played Sacred Stones on his Gameboy SP. He remembers with fondness those long rides in the car just spent trying over and over again to make sure none of his beloved party members would perish... unless it was Knoll.
This video is similar to those of Jrose11, JRPG Jungle, and Faerghast in parts while Kratos also draws inspiration from Northenlion and Ludwig.
Title: Can You Beat Fire Emblem The Sacred Stones Only Using Franz?

[@pieoverlord]

Missed the most important advantage the Great Knight has over the Paladin: that silky smooth animation.

[@kratosmvn_]

Straight facts.

[@mado-wh4jv]

That crit animation though

[@kimitohanahala8674]

@@mado-wh4jv imo that goofy ah CRIT animation provides a good contrast for the sprite design that goes so hard.

[@Ken-ru6or]

​@@kimitohanahala8674y'all are high as fuck if you think GK has a bad crit animation. It's one of the only ones that make sense. Everyone else does stupid twirls and shit, GK literally just hits you harder than usual and takes aim... which what you'd actually do to inflict more damage. Spinning around and spinning your weapon is stupid and impractical, but literally aiming and hitting harder is not a bad crit animation, at all.

[@kimitohanahala8674]

@@Ken-ru6or I'm not saying it's a bad CRIT animation, it's my favourite CRIT animation in sacred stones and will always have Amilia promote into one. I'm into things that contrasts each other.

[@halifaxsteppenwulf7980]

Kinda wild to think there are multiple people who can single handledly kill an entire war and satan with a bit of luck

[@kratosmvn_]

🤣🤣🤣 only a little bit of luck and you can do anything apparently.

[@kevinmorris9362]

Another note about defense in Sacred Stones: the nastiest enemies at the end of the game either ignore your Defense (The Dracozombies) or target Resistance (Lyon and the Gorgons). As such, in the final chapter Defense isn't as important considering how critical it is to have enough resistance.

[@kratosmvn_]

That is very true!

[@ZX-Gear]

Yeah. Most PrePromotes have decent Resistance to make up for the other stats and lesser growths. I would use Harken and Marcus but those two are already really solid units as is.

[@shine-ub6eb]

Make a Knoll run, since we've been hinting at it since the Gilliam run Edit: the amount of effort to decide between Paladin and Great Knight is insane, props

[@kratosmvn_]

Knoll who? 😳 It was really a tough choice to make so I thought giving my whole reasoning was a good idea glad you enjoyed it 😀

[@vitalyfortee]

I agree make a knollllll run that be so awesome. I love these videos and the knowledge you put. Its not just this game but others you did so please continue. lol " knoll who" got me btw .

[@Jade_Hanson]

Yeah was thinking Knoll would kick ass... He's even stronger than Ewan as a summoner.

[@bryandauzat293]

This doesn't look like a Knoll playthrogh and that's what I subscribed for

[@kratosmvn_]

😂 look it'll happen some day... I just don't know if I have it in me right now lmao.

[@incidentsolver7779]

My brother in Christ; Seth is not a mounted unit, he is a triple-sided spiked siege dong. Seize maps? Route maps? The enemy isn't attacking him, they're trying to run but this absolute unit has broken their morale so thoroughly they can only see the area he wants them to see and have forgotten they live in an actual world and not some sick game Seth keeps them in for his amusement.

[@kratosmvn_]

Okay this had me on the floor straight cackling 🤣🤣🤣

[@alfredxsiv]

Garm's +5 speed with that base mt is just too good, i definitely think promoting franz to great knight was the right choice with him having effective 29 speed since he doesn't have any speed penalty cause of his high con when using garm, which is basically 1 point off the speediest of units in fe8. And yes, your Franz is kinda unlucky with that unlucky str growth, i guess it all went to Vanessa 😂

[@kratosmvn_]

Yes! I agree Garm is almost too good to pass up! Vanessa stole it all for sure 😂

[@kase6491]

We need that assassin Colm run. I'm sure his high speed and luck would make him a dodge tank. Also silencer clutches are fun to watch.

[@kratosmvn_]

Oohhh, that sounds like a ton of fun!

[@shayonmitra8337]

I watch these because of how much I liked these characters themselves and not because of how strong I remember them being. Absolutely love it

[@kratosmvn_]

Yep! These characters are so much better than I remember too! haha absolutely dominant.

[@shayonmitra8337]

@@kratosmvn_ yeah, I love playing sacred stones so much

[@ladyriethegoldendelmo5441]

that dodged against the last demon king attack lmao! u been blessed by the gods

[@kratosmvn_]

I gotta have RNJesus on my side once in a while haha😂

[@fropsy6110]

Congratulations on the solo run completion! I really love your videos, hope you blow up dude!

[@kratosmvn_]

Thank you! I'm very happy you enjoy the videos. 😊

[@smusher6]

Super happy to see some love for Great Knight Franz. Franz is my favorite Cavalier in the entire franchise, and Great Knight is my personal preferred promote for him.

[@kratosmvn_]

Glad I could use him in your preferred form for this run :)

[@richardthepastamancer6619]

"He Is a Man of Focus, Commitment and Sheer Fucking Will"

[@kratosmvn_]

He truly freaking is!

[@yuvalwh]

You deserve more subs bro, this is some quality stuff

[@kratosmvn_]

Really appreciate you saying this. It'll come with time and hard work 😀

[@yuvalwh]

@@kratosmvn_ anytime man, keep up the good content!

[@SethJV]

That's literally a random "Can you beat" run, with literally nothing special on it.

[@kratosmvn_]

@Shiny Corviknight Instead of telling people what they should or shouldn't enjoy, how about you go spend your time more productively and go do something that makes you happy. It might make you a little less bitter about people enjoying things 😊

[@voltron77]

I mean Seth wouldn’t be a challenge it would just be an average Fire Emblem playthrough at this point so props to you for choosing Franz my boi.

[@kratosmvn_]

Franz the Goat!

[@Scagh]

Amazing video, as always! It's great to see you build up on knowledge as the tier list grows longer We still need to see a light mage, a dark mage, an archer and a flier, so my bets for the next video are: Artur, Neimi or Vanessa!

[@kratosmvn_]

Thank you :D You may be onto something there... 👀

[@tannerwells3210]

recent play through made me really appreciate franz

[@kratosmvn_]

He can be really hit or miss, but when he is doing good he's hard to not love.

[@abledadood2842]

Sacred Stones characters have such great designs I swear. They all look so good. I just wish there was more characterisation of everyone in the game honestly.

[@kratosmvn_]

Agreed, I wish we have more time with the characters outside of supports that is.

[@BAIGAMING]

Great work on these! I like how this became your niche like how other content creators do individual pokemon runs. You're getting better at planning these too!

[@kratosmvn_]

Thank you! I'm glad so many of y'all enjoy it.

[@vallum12100]

Fr, like the Scott Thought's of Fire Emblem at this point

[@kratosmvn_]

@@vallum12100 Huge shoes to fill haha, but thank you :)

[@akirasou]

Nicely done, loving this series of videos! Since I'm now making videos on an LTC of FE8 where everyone's an Archer, I kinda want to try and record something like this for Neimi... but I know that you're planning on going through the entire roster, so I don't want to step on your toes because I enjoy this series a lot

[@kratosmvn_]

Thank you :) Feel free to go ahead and do the Niemi video! I appreciate you checking in, but the more creators engage with these games in different ways the better for the community so feel free to go right ahead :)

[@kylegrefe4399]

Was expecting a flier, then I remembered the tutorial video you made. Might as well not let that work go to waste

[@kratosmvn_]

Flyer soon hopefully 👀

[@markpalestina1598]

I don't usually comment, but I've been enjoying your content for the last month!

[@kratosmvn_]

Thank you for watching! I'm glad you're enjoying ❤

[@KiwiiPuma]

Spoilers***** I really agree with you on the Great Knight, I myself did a Seth and Amelia Solo Run once and it is a hustle to use Vidofnir you cannot One Round the DK it took me over 4 Turns and healing abuse to kill it. I truly enjoy your content! Hope all your effort pays off and you keep it this way! 💯

[@kratosmvn_]

Yeah, GK was the play for sure. Vidofnir is shockingly hard to justify imo. Thank you glad you enjoy the content.

[@271489goo]

Awesome video! Love the new growth rates & stats tables! Super easy to read! :)

[@kratosmvn_]

Thank you! I'm glad you like it :)

[@holovalorant]

Second the Joshua comment! Was my favorite character growing up because I love using swordfighters

[@kratosmvn_]

Joshua is a great character :)

[@sweetBACONtea]

Would love to see a flying unit solo run. Perhaps Tana?

[@kratosmvn_]

Flying unit soon hopefully :)

[@DusBeforeDawn2008]

i love how the "bad" version of Seth is still op

[@kratosmvn_]

He simply refuses to be denied as the GOAT lmao.

[@Salapass]

Poor Knoll, you should do Knoll for next solo run.

[@kratosmvn_]

Mmmmhhh... maybe 😈

[@aegisScale]

This sounds like something I'd do to prove a point, that point being "I don't need Seth, I have Franz!"

[@kratosmvn_]

Yep, no need for Seth just Franz haha

[@heartofthefluft8541]

That "OH my God" at 28:35 reminds me of a clip of Frieza in Dragon Ball Z Abridged when admiring Goku abs Nice run, overall :3 I hope Franz gets into Heroes one day so I can build him to +10, I hope he is a F2P unit

[@kratosmvn_]

hahahaha that's awesome! Hopefully he finds his way to Heroes soon!

[@Adrian-ey1bv]

Great video as always man! I really thought we were gonna get you with the solo Knoll run haha Joshua next???

[@kratosmvn_]

Knoll solo will definitely happen at some point... in the history of time... maybe 😈 Can't wait to get to Joshua.

[@ThatGuyThai]

Kyle can hit GK caps :) I've shared this with you before but to new viewers. Kyle beats Seth in STR and can utilize the GK caps. He gets an extra level to grow in comparison to Ford, and can utilize Steel Sword without detriment, his competition can't. They also lose 2 speed on Javelins whereas he only loses 1. Same with heavier lances, he always loses 1 less. With Paladin and GK speed only being 24, he can actually hit that and make use of Speedwing if he's struggling to double when you need him to. He can max out Hand Axe without any speed detriment thanks to his Con advantage to train S Axes, for Garm, the best weapon in the game. Garm has the strongest MT and fixes the low 24 Speed Cap Pallys and GK suffer from. You do have to work hard to get Axes to S, but Steel Axe and Devil Axe really help speed it up, and he doesn't lose speed as a GK wielding heavy weapons. Love your Franz analysis here and the breakdown for deciding job promotion. One of your best videos yet!

[@kratosmvn_]

Kyle hits the cap without breaking a sweat for sure! Now you've somehow gotten me excited for a Kyle run lmao! Thank you glad you enjoyed the video. ❤

[@landonfacer4401]

My man! Loooooving your content! Sacred stones is my favorite of the series! You are already hitting some of my favorite characters but how about a Gerrick run? 👍

[@kratosmvn_]

Thank you for the kind words! Gerik sounds a ton of fun as he is one of my 2 fav characters of the game.

[@utaisaac7821]

great video! I've been enjoying your content recently. I wanted to say that I agree GK is an underrated class but I think that promoting Franz to a GK when you talked in the beginning about wondering if mounted units could beat the game faster kinda contradicted each other, with the GK having the same movement as a standard infantry. that said, I do really enjoy your commentary and I'm gonna subscribe to catch more of this series :)

[@kratosmvn_]

Thank you for subscribing! But you're totally right, but I think that's what makes this video interesting because now this question is still kinda of unanswered and we have other candidates to take up the Paladin arc :)

[@jasonfox6932]

These runs are so fun, can't wait to see who you solo with next

[@kratosmvn_]

Thank you! Stay tuned and you'll find out ;)

[@kyrospuns]

OnlyFranz !!

[@kratosmvn_]

He's gotta some exclusive Paladin content behind the paywall 🤣

[@oliviergagnon8719]

Yooo, franz was always my favorite guy, I have so many franz poster in my bedroom including my franz bedsheets

[@kratosmvn_]

😂😂😂

[@DontCareBeats]

wow this game it's been years so much fun

[@kratosmvn_]

One of my favourite games of all time.

[@DontCareBeats]

@@kratosmvn_ absolutely and idk if you played it or them but the Advance Wars Franchise was quite good to thx for your vid !

[@kratosmvn_]

No problem, I do love the Advance Wars Franchise :)

[@othergrimm6592]

So, last time I suggested a Knoll video, as a reward for him getting so many dodges. I still want to see that, but now, I also want to request a run for someone widely considered to be the worst unit in the game - Marisa. I actually like her, and think she could probably do it, but I'd like to see the attempt.

[@kratosmvn_]

Ohhhh the Marisa run sounds like a ton of fun!

[@willsenay]

Love the vids, one minor feedback-seems confusing to say no convoy but you can use it for weapons. It’s explained that you only get one healing item per map, so the convoy rule seems like it could be removed altogether?

[@kratosmvn_]

Thank you! You're right I have to find a better way to shorten that rule to make it less confusing. Thanks for the feedback.

[@peterh2223]

One trick for chapter 15 E is that the left side of the map has much less sand, making traversing it much easier

[@kratosmvn_]

That's right. That would be my normal route, but I stupidly went for Metis tome haha

[@PatrickleMorse]

I was gonna say "oh Franz has a lot of boss conversations" but that's just because he's a reskinned Eirika -_- Anyway, congrats on another run ! This one was pretty smooth, I'm curious to see how fast a paladin would go, especially since they can promote so early (or in the case of Seth, is already promoted).

[@kratosmvn_]

Yeah, I'm also intrigued about Paladin, I have a few candidates whom I think could make good use of the promo ;)

[@_PennyRoYaL]

would love to see how Neimi would fair, an underrated char imo

[@kratosmvn_]

Neimi would be quite interesting, only thing is getting out of the early game would be tough.

[@brysonskaar3070]

Great Knight definitely the right choice imo, Axes a huge help with dmg and stat caps like you said. Solo run late maps get bogged down anyways if not using a flier!

[@kratosmvn_]

Yeah, I really think that was the way to go!

[@gaminggoddess85]

As soon as I saw the horse I knew the desert was going to be annoying. A FLYING horse would surely have an easy time though... **hint hint** Honestly the biggest problem with Franz is how his promotions make him and his horse look like they're covered in boogers. (still waiting on a myrmidon run. crits all day erry day)

[@kratosmvn_]

A flying horse you say... there are those in this game? 👀👀👀 Crit all day run will be fun.

[@StormEagleCH]

Day 119 of hoping for Knoll to live Love Franz, he was my first cav ever! The Demon King fight also had me on the edge, that was nuts

[@kratosmvn_]

Imagine once we make it out of CH.15 with Knoll :O It was such a close fight haha.

[@StormEagleCH]

@@kratosmvn_ also random thought I just had: what do you think about adding a game-over counter to the tier list next to the reset counter?

[@kratosmvn_]

@@StormEagleCH I prefer not to do that because it can be hard to track in certain runs.

[@tamlynloell]

I didn't expect that Franz perform that solid. But it's nice, Franz was a unit i used in some of my play through.

[@kratosmvn_]

Franz is a fun unit to use for sure.

[@orthochronicity6428]

I've been wondering if it would be advantageous to put off promoting so that you can make use of the Metis Tome. There's certainly enough experience to go around to getting a character to 20/20, but chapter 15 is quite far into the run and we've certainly seen some characters struggle in it even with having a much earlier promotion. It seems like it might have been viable with Franz and might have helped with Gilliam (I think that was the run I started wondering about it). Would have made that swordslayer pick up unusable against Carlyle in Chapter 14, which could be unfortunate, too. Watching your Iron Man Highlights, I thought the death squad might be a good pool of candidates for the solo run challenges. But seeing you promote Moulder in that 3rd highlight video immediately made me interested in if Moulder soloing would be possible... of course, he has no offensive potential in his base class, so you'd have to do something extra to modify his run to make him viable (lock in a promoted class option and give the relevant magic ability prior to promotion?); not sure what would be appropriate there, but might be worth pondering.

[@kratosmvn_]

I've thought about that too. It made the run extremely hard for Eirika, but Franz could have maybe used this to his advantage you're right. I'd have to test it out at some point for sure. I'm still workshoping how to do healers at the moment. I don't think they'll be possible without some level of shenanigans on my end, but we'll see when we get there.

[@JackpotJohnno]

@@kratosmvn_ Moulder with evil eye as a weapon 😄

[@kratosmvn_]

@@JackpotJohnno That's a popular idea to make them work.

[@burnedsamurai8593]

Love franz! Can’t wait for the stream this weekend 😊

[@kratosmvn_]

Franz is great! Can't wait to stream this weekend ;)

[@nathanjohnson2382]

A good Franz can compete with Seth and that’s my favorite way to play this game. But a good Franz is hard to come by, even then I still use him a lot

[@kratosmvn_]

You're totally right :D

[@scootybooty4891]

You've done magic, trainee, mounted, and lord; all of which have been fantastic runs. Can't wait for the archer, thief, pegasus knight, and healer runs, and of course I'm most looking forward to a good ol Knoll run. Keep it up, can't wait for the next one!

[@kratosmvn_]

Thank you! I can't wait for those runs too 🤩

[@noltra8330]

If you want to, you can skip 5x by editing the goto chapter at the end of the chapter to 6 instead of 5x with febuilder

[@kratosmvn_]

That's a pretty smart idea! I do like getting the keys off that chapter thought to be fair.

[@pheonixmmkc]

Loving the solo runs, very entertaining 😁

[@kratosmvn_]

Thank you ❤

[@tatsuyakaiyo416]

Can't wait for knoll only

[@kratosmvn_]

At some point... maybe 😈

[@ZappBranniglenn]

I think the 1 hour Clear Time difference between Lute and Franz is just chapter 15. Great Knight can only move 1 space before you get the swiftsole, Sage can move 6. And you even picked up junk like the Metis Tome and Body Ring on top of all that. I would consider them the same tier due to that technicality.

[@kratosmvn_]

Yeah, that's perfectly fair, and probably the reason behind the time lost, but technically that map is designed to be hard for mounted units meaning that losing time there is part of the deal.

[@MarkofWisdom]

Franz is a pretty good unit, but he is very susceptible to being RNG screwed because most of his growths are below 50% and a coin flip or worse of being hit every level, and bad early levels can snowball into being a severe disadvantage. Ch 6 seems to be where most solo units hit level 20, so it isn't as hard. But you do need to be wary of the fighter with the halberd in the fog. Most horse units will have access to swords which can help with it, but it is something you need to keep in mind of you might take a much heavier hit than you expect. For Paladin vs Great knight-I like great knight more because of higher stat caps and having access to all 3 weapons, but for most people paladin is probably better because of higher movement. Even with franz being super strength screwed in this run, I still think great knight is the better choice because of being able to use Garm. I honestly think any character that has access to a class that can use axes should give serious consideration to using that class because of access to garm, in addition to how good axes are in general in sacred stones Sacred weapons-yeah, vidofnir does seem like the worst of the melee sacred weapons, really weird for the sword to have 3 more might than the lance, though the lance seems to be more of a defensive type weapon that makes the wielder more bulky For the final chapter lyon-you might consider using brave weapons against him like you used the brave sword against Reiv in chapter 19. It looks like the brave axe can be found from a hero in chapter 17, the brave sword from a hero in chapter 19, and the brave lance from an enemy general in chapter 19. It may be worth trying to get those weapons if you're able to since they are very powerful and can be helpful against lyon at the end-wow, franz getting strength screwed really came to bite you here. If he had 2 more damage (so above the paladin strength cap) he would have been able to 4 shot the demon king instead of needing 5 hits. And since he could easily survive 2 hits from the demon king (only taking 28 damage from demon light) it would have been trivial to kill fomortiis if he hadn't been so strength screwed. At least you got lucky and still managed to kill him on the first try

[@kratosmvn_]

Yeah, any character that has around 40ish growth rates is bound to get rng screwed more than the average. It's true that the halberd may be a problem. I gotta keep an eye on that. It's really hard to find a better legendary weapon than Garm in terms of the physical weapons. I do sometimes use the brave sword or lance on lyon if I have to finish off, and I need 2 hits. I guess I've just never thought putting those attempts in the videos.

[@bigslappy823]

I hear Franz pairs well with another well-loved character from Three Houses if you wanna take enemies out.

[@littlekuribohimposte]

If Lute is SS tier, Franz is fine in S. A high S for sure, and that desert map does screw him. So Knoll run! Knoll Run!

[@kratosmvn_]

You're right I think we'll be hard pressed to find people coming close to those 2.

[@RandyButternubs17]

MUCH AWAITED

[@kratosmvn_]

It is it is! Finally here!

[@nessdbest8708]

YES! Its finally here!

[@kratosmvn_]

By popular demand, a month in the making it has arrived haha

[@nessdbest8708]

@@kratosmvn_ my favorite fe8 unit!

[@EponaTheHorseyOfDOOM]

Hey, I was curious, would it be possible to use FEBuilder to change the units you aren't using into flyers, to make it easier to get them out of the way of enemies? For example, changing Franz, Gilliam and Seth into flying units, so that on chapter 1 you could just move them to the top right corner of the map, instead of playing around enemy ranges. Also, personally I feel like Franz should be in the same tier as Lute - both of their turn counts were very similar, which I feel is overall more important than the time, and Franz did require less resets than Lute. Franz got kinda strength screwed too, which did hurt his performance a little (also worth noting that if he did have the benefit of a reset, and his strength was closer to average, he would have been able to clear maps faster)

[@kratosmvn_]

I think that would be possible with a little playing around! That's 100% fair, but I'll wait and see how others do and might eventually do an overall of the list as I learn more and considering each run's context :)

[@Lewtore]

Tu devrai avoir plus d'abonnés pour ton contenu incroyable

[@kratosmvn_]

Merci, j'apprécie beaucoup!

[@lspuria8440]

35:40. I just have to say that you don't need to conserve 20 uses of Garm. It's effective damage to all enemies. Its better killer axe. Aaaaaaaaaag

[@kratosmvn_]

Yeah... I know it's just hard breaking my habits of not letting unique weapons break LOL, but you're right... I should use it more.

[@BehemothShadow]

I had realized fliers will suck because of the very low stat cap awhile ago so I fear for Ven

[@kratosmvn_]

That's gonna be a very interesting issue to overcome :)

[@DonArlem]

Waiting for the day you do a Knoll sufferrun !!

[@kratosmvn_]

With Knoll, sufferrun is the right way to put it 😂😂😂

[@OneColdRepublican]

Knoll is going to give you so much hell for putting up with rnjesus during all these other runs. Im already calling it. 😂😂😂

[@kratosmvn_]

He's gonna get his revenge... and I'll deserve it haha

[@chaossnowkitsune6377]

Well that went well. Not really surprising really. I will say paladin probably would have made the final part of the game harder due to it not having Garm as an option. So even with the bad luck in strength it probably worked out for the best there. Now you just need to do an archer and flier and you will have done pretty much every fully unique type of class. Not counting healers and Myrrh of course. I say this as a lot of the magic users I feel will be pretty similar to each other. Obviously there will be differences, but outside of maybe Artur possibly going Bishop over sage(which I feel probably won't happen) it probably won't be too big a difference.

[@kratosmvn_]

Yeah Franz was a predictable easy, but I didn't think it be that easy. Garm really is too good haha.

[@chaossnowkitsune6377]

I think at this point Seth is gonna be the only paladin used. Garm is just that useful. Poor Vadolfnir is barely going to be used I feel. Like maybe the Tana and Vanessa might use it if you go Wyvern knight with them. Like I am honestly a little surprised the lance has the weakest MT to it.

[@kratosmvn_]

@@chaossnowkitsune6377 Maybe, but I still have a few ideas when it comes to Paladin :)

[@doorto6152]

Meme idea: do a forde solo and make a bunch of Mekka references

[@kratosmvn_]

😂😂😂

[@timothysirmons8356]

i prefer great knight 100% and am happy you went with it. while the extra move is nice, ive always just liked GK way more.

[@kratosmvn_]

Great Knight is such a fun class!

[@deejmateo832]

I dont know what effort you would need to make, but I'd love a natasha only run. I know she cant damage until she promotes, but she has always been a bishop and an absolute killing machine in all of my playthroughs. If theres a mod that she can use light magic as a cleric maybe

[@kratosmvn_]

There is some tinkering to be done for sure for a Natasha run, but I'd like to try for sure.

[@AbdulAhad0128]

Princess Franz of Renais

[@kratosmvn_]

The best of princesses 👸 🤣

[@nathanielberele9174]

I'm sure you know this and say percent as habit, but the hit rate is not a flat percent. the game rolls twice and averages. This means that the numbers at the end of the spectrum are a lot more extreme. So an 80 hit change is alot higher than 80% and a 20 hit rate is a lot less than 20%.

[@kratosmvn_]

Oh yeah, I know this. I use percent for the sake of simplicity and also explaining the rng system in this game every run would be tedious for viewers to watch. But thanks for the clarification just in case :)

[@ShamirGMS]

Would love to see a solo colm or amelia run

[@kratosmvn_]

Thank you! I will be trying to get to these two as soon as possible. :)

[@davidgoldammer348]

Can You Beat Fire Emblem The Sacred Stones Using Only Phantoms?

[@kratosmvn_]

I think that's impossible there, bud. LMAO I want to try this now...

[@davidgoldammer348]

@@kratosmvn_ You're welcome in advance

[@tyler2325]

Please, knoll next. He keeps getting done dirty in these runs

[@kratosmvn_]

Getting done dirty? I don't know what you mean 😈

[@Erikuzuma]

I think you should have gone for the Paladin not because of the power or utility but for the entire point of this run that you mentioned at the beginning: It was supposed to compare the mobility vs the stats. Franz only has that movement advantage as a Paladin, and in fact as a Great Knight his Move is even worse than Lute because he is more hindered by terrain. Maybe you could do like a Vanessa run next to keep it more true to the stats vs movement spirit?

[@kratosmvn_]

Fair points, but he's not the only potential Paladin in the game, there are other options for me to test this with. Also, when I record these voice-over, my goal is to take you along my line of thinking as I was playing/planning. So, I may enter a run with a given mindset, but if that evolves throughout the gameplay, my goal is to convey this change and explain why I had a change of thinking. I don't want these videos to be me forcing one narrative, because I think the beauty of FE has to do with the random elements. No two runs will be the same and adapting your strategy is at times vital to your success and I feel that my videos have to reflect that when appropriate.

[@joshuapeters4052]

I love these runs so much

[@kratosmvn_]

I'm glad you enjoy them :D

[@TheLeviathan1293]

8:18 Consider that Franz is still Cavalier.

[@kratosmvn_]

That is very true. You also gotta consider the promo bonuses.

[@mohamedihsaanahmed1830]

if you had max strength, you could have killed boss even easier. four hits to kill, no need to even kite around the minions

[@kratosmvn_]

Yep, you're totally right :)

[@GaIeforce]

You really should talk to your Iron Man Vanessa for sapping away all the Str levelups Franz could have gotten in this run. 😂 It is worth noting during the ranking, that even in this still impressive run, it could have been better because you did get Str screwed in this run. 4 str is a massive dropoff. That's the difference between two-rounding and three-rounding Fortmortiis. Having higher damage against Lyon also would have been key, too. There also might have been times during the playthrough I couldn't see (because a lot of the game was cut out for the sake of video length) where Franz could've one-rounded enemies had he had the 4 extra strength. Perhaps maybe doing a second playthrough would've most certainly yielded better results. But then that would probably set a precedent for the rest of the series (and may need a re-evaluation of the other characters before him that didn't get the benefit of a second run), so up to you if you decide to entertain the idea.

[@kratosmvn_]

Vanessa hogging all the strength, but it's okay if she can win me the ironman lmao Yeah, it's hard to gage for sure, but I may end up later revisiting some runs when we have more under our belt. But that's for future me to figure out lol

[@GaIeforce]

@@kratosmvn_ Yeah, I think it's certainly something to think about later. This run felt like an extreme outlier and could very well benefit from a second playthrough as this type of outlier shouldn't really happen very often. Again, something to ponder for Future Kratos. :P

[@kratosmvn_]

The advantage we have with this one, in my opinion, is that we have 4 other potential Paladin to try something similar with.

[@Obsidian-fn7wj]

I feel like Knoll is really underrated. If I remember correctly he's the only mage in FE8 that can use dark magic, and we all know how good Nosferatu is. He's probably the biggest glass cannon in fire emblem history since.

[@kratosmvn_]

He just starts out so late with pretty bad stats and con with Dark tomes being heavy it makes him hard to compete out of the gate. But he's not bad per say I just like to clown on him.

[@BlueMageWithSoulEdge]

So is "Can you beat the game with only Tana" next?

[@kratosmvn_]

I don't know about next but in the plans for sure.

[@Shenkie]

This reminds me of a Jrose solo run. But think i like this more :)

[@kratosmvn_]

Thank you, I'm glad you enjoy this :)

[@craigyeah1052]

I'm really curious about Franz as a Paladin now, especially compared to his own Great Knight finish. Because of the poor Str growths I'd argue Paladin was objectively better because of the Mov. Garm's higher mt alone wasn't enough to kill the demon king in one less hit... but with even just 2 more str it certainly would've. Unlucky, although first try Fomortiis so I guess you can't complain. How much of a difference does 2 mov really make? We'll have a comparable run at some point though I imagine Forde will be a Paladin.

[@kratosmvn_]

Yeah, I ended up working out in the end! But I am still intrigued as to how Paladin would do.

[@tricmagic]

I'm wondering how Sophia would do now..

[@kratosmvn_]

Mhhh, in this game I'm not so sure haha

[@FreyOdyssey]

if you're willing to sacrifice the boots and the potential 10 Mov to Great Knight Franz, you get a second axe wielding Seth. Instead of Paladin Franz aka Seth Lite in any playthrough

[@zaidsobrinopatron617]

I would love to see a Vanessa run

[@kratosmvn_]

Hopefully, I get around to it soon :)

[@destroyt294]

Loved the video like always

[@kratosmvn_]

Thank you. I'm glad you enjoyed 😊

[@fropsy6110]

I just saw the ending, what if you ranked them based on the numbers multiplied together? So like Turns x Time x Resets? 0 Resets could just be x1 and 1 reset could just be x1.5. They would be ranked higher for lower scores.

[@kratosmvn_]

That seems like an interesting idea, I'm gonna try out the calc just to see how it works and see if it's viable :)

[@SuperCosmicSpaceMagnet]

I wonder how Myrrh would do. Is it even possible..? Can the Dragonstone be strung out enough to survive the game?

[@kratosmvn_]

It isn't possible without some level of shenanigans... I believe that only chapter 15 alone would deplete it due to being a route map.

[@wolfherojohnson2766]

This, my friends, is why Franz is THE GOAT

[@quickpawmaud]

If you go in Mekka's discord tons of Franz haters in there saying he sucks and Kyle is better. Franz is my favorite cav in the entire series so I just ignore these heretics. Their main argument is that Franz competes with Vanessa whereas Kyle gets 5x for free pretty much. I say good luck training Vanessa in Chapter 2 and 3 lol. I will just be training my Franz in chapter 1-3 and having fun while you are tediously whittling down enemies hoping not to miss.

[@Kakashi10ist]

Because of movement difficulties for his class you should just put him #1, Franks its the silent VIP behind SETH that its on his own category called SETH :o)

[@falsche921]

I tried out a solo Summoner Knoll run on my own and man, I can't wait for you to stop worrying and learn to love the Nosferatu 😉 (Honestly he's not that bad until you hit the Demon King, then it's pain and reset hell because 50% hit Luna and 30% hit Eclipse are the only weapons worth bothering with, and of course he has like 75-80% accuracy on Knoll and two-shots) (He also got hilariously lopsided with -3 to Defense and Resistance in exchange for +4 Luck above average and being 1 point of Speed from the cap, which is incidentally also the point of speed he needed to not get doubled with Gleipnir... which sucked anyway, only 10 damage max to Demon King 💀) (The second Knoll from the desert was in the end the only one who didn't make it 🤣)

[@kratosmvn_]

I'm not ready to be hurt by Knoll 😂😭

[@falsche921]

@@kratosmvn_ If you're not ready for Knoll, then hoo boy are you not ready for Neimi - she can't even get past the chapter 2 Armor Knight unless she either hits her 45% Strength growth *5 times in a row* AND he rolls for 9 Defense instead of 10... or she spends *hundreds* of turns squatting on a fort dodging enemies, and her avoid isn't even that great so she can die during that, too 💀 And then there's her promotion, and by that I mean she doesn't get promoted 💀

[@JEL625]

I still say GK is the better promote solely due to Garm. You cant resist or block stone, you need speed, skill, or luck. Since Garm is the only weapon that does this its the better defensive weapon. Its also the better offensive weapon as its the only sacred weapon that increases your offensive stats like hit chance and chance to double.

[@CrownBaumann]

the axe is the best upside of great knight class , fuck 1 more movement

[@kratosmvn_]

Yeah, but sometimes speed is key. The axe is such a big upside thought because Garm is just that good!

[@JayySurvivor]

Need a colm run, you could also run characters from 6/7 and see if they work in this game 🤣

[@kratosmvn_]

Colm would be really fun! It would also be neat to see how FE6 and 7 characters do in this game haha

[@JayySurvivor]

@@kratosmvn_ seeing how Roy performs or eliwood would be pretty cool

[@kratosmvn_]

@@JayySurvivor I'd be intrigued too!

[@funbro99]

Great knight franz is bae. Held the choke alongside seth

[@JoshDrk]

Love your videos :D

[@kratosmvn_]

Thank you very much ❤

[@namelessfaerie1302]

Seth run confirmed wooohoooo

[@kratosmvn_]

Yes! Hopefully soon enough haha