Can You Beat KEEPER'S TOLL Without Moving (Much)?

[@TheBacklogs]

Thanks again to Keeper's Toll for sponsoring today's challenge run! If you want to play it for yourself, you can buy it here : store.steampowered.com/app/2002220?Backlogs

[@Pseudo921]

Every day that passes my hope for getting an Elden Ring challenge run diminishes, but I still keep it alive

[@sunbro-ce2sq]

Backlogs you should try a game called "slice and dice" its a dice based rogue like with classes, turn based fighting and the entire game is RNG because...you know...dice, AND its so cheap on steam, ita worth a look!

[@ChaosFox36]

to be honest I'm impressed that lemon has managed to hold out so long on not playing Elden ring.... I'm both hoping and will be depressed the day lemon does play Elden ring

[@Jose-gl4zi]

Have a happy Halloween tomorrow

[@guyfromtheus5994]

The play style challenge really helped to showcase the game. At the beginning, the character moves so much that I couldn’t understand what was happening. But watching the abilities and movesets while you were standing still, very clearly showed what the game is all about. Nicely done.

[@chrisschoenthaler5184]

It is kinda funny that limiting gameplay helped to show off the gameplay.

[@scottbuck1572]

Honestly, this is why I didnt get into these kind of games at first; I could never get a feel from gameplay vids cause most of them look like rorschach of slot machine win screens

[@randomoss5700]

i’ve got a friend who often refers to these types of games as “bullet heavens” as opposed to bullet hells, and i think that’s a great name

[@ThatReplyGuy]

I often hear the term "Survivor-like" in reference to Vampire Survivors. I've also heard "reverse bullet-he'll."

[@enlongjones2394]

I’ve also heard of auto-attack survivor as a genre name.

[@Toastbrout]

I've always assumed: Bullet Heaven = "You create the bulletstorm" Bullet Hell = "You evade the bulletstorm"

[@ericb3157]

oh i remember a Flash game actually called "bullet heaven". it's by the same people who did the "epic battle fantasy" series.

[@christopherg2347]

​​​@@Toastbrout Vampire Survivors pretty much created this genre. It's own trailers say "be the bullet hell". Which was rephrased as "reverse bullet hell". And Heaven is the reverse of Hell. So that is probably why the options for describing the Genre are "(Vampire) Survivors like" and "Bullet Heaven".

[@BaronSterling]

11:30 "A beautiful combination of Misty Step and Shatter, if you will." They actually have that already! It's called "Thunder Step."

[@NecklineArmada]

I'm glad there was another person who was going to mention one of my favorite spells 😂

[@PixogenPixels]

@@NecklineArmadaUntil you hit friendlies haha.

[@kevinlopezobrien5366]

To be fair, Thunderstep is in Xanathar's Guide to Everything, while both Misty Step and Shatter are in the Player's Handbook, so anyone without Xanathar's would be less likely to know about the spell, while many players would know the other two.

[@benjamintim3542]

am I the only one who isn't a fan of Thunderstep? I'd much rather it do its damage when you arrive at your destination, and not the starting point. I prefer to go in, and not run, but then again I'm always making spellblades, and most spellcasters need to be at range....

[@YMnextdoor]

No one talking about how Lemon got the achievements at 0:55 at 1am??? Lemon please take care of yourself 😭

[@devilduckietu]

"I know you have cookie clicker on in the background!" BRO THAT WAS A PERSONAL ATTACK!

[@ledgewalker4924]

And not you alone o.O

[@Drachnon]

Not me though. No Cookie Clicker here. *looks at several other idling games running in his browser* Yup, no Cookie Clicker

[@tyukogames]

The grind is real, I have idle slayer on the background

[@inkdd1463]

Me: … **looks at my Laptop that’s on cookie clicker**

[@RoseLexThorne]

I mean, what can be expected? Don't some of the Secret Achievements involve playing for like a decade?

[@Bandedcookie]

"Dear rn jesus, STAY THE HELL OUTTA MY WAY". That had me rolling.

[@lostsoul3155]

Was watching this at work and that had me cackling like a madman

[@killyou2morrow898]

I laughed too hard at it.

[@redrem1525]

Isn't it part of the Firebomb Honor Code to pick a fire slinging madman class when usable? I mean you did a good job explaining why that wasn't an option here, I just wanted some justification for the arson I commit in other games

[@SailorMusicCat]

The Honor Code only takes a backseat during Challenge Runs where it is Not Viable. We tried. It sadly didn't work. ~sad Firebomb noises~

[@DaSoulKing]

@redrem1525 how do you have a little lemon next to your name?

[@redrem1525]

@DaSoulKing I am a Firebomb academy scholar of I forget how many months, meaning I give Lemon a dollar or two a month, I'm currently studying the History of Lemons Suffering 302, and explosive compounds 441

[@DaSoulKing]

@@redrem1525 ive been looking to going back to school how do i enroll we might get some classes together

[@redrem1525]

@DaSoulKing you join the channel, again it costs like 2 dollars a month, then you get the cool Lemonhead, and emotes and stuff, as well as a sudden onset of pyromania (probably)

[@blunderingfool]

Hey lemon, you got me to finally do my own challenge run. I'm at the endgame and every brick wall shattered is incredibly exciting! :D

[@Kroschkolow]

After collecting all the tomes and maxing every character I was able to beat the first level without any movement with the blood maiden. The s during the waterfowl dance are a literal life saver.

[@PixogenPixels]

Awesome to know (time to nerf!) joking but it’s cool to see people try stuff. My main thing was trying to make the strongest spell build on necro.

[@Kroschkolow]

@@PixogenPixels Always wanted to try that but I somehow end up maxing the skeletons every time :D

[@PixogenPixels]

@@KroschkolowYeah most people do. Same with items no one buys the defensive stuff but there’s some cool plays with that. Also some items that combo insanely well.

[@azazeldeath]

Wait that's soul survivors? That explains so much, for awhile now I've wanted to play it but couldn't find it. Swore I went crazy even tried double checking my emails for the purchase receipt.

[@RensReckluse]

We had to change the name due to identity issues

[@Seergun]

@@RensReckluse Was it because of Soul _stone_ Survivors?

[@PixogenPixels]

@@SeergunWe released before them but they skyrocketed to the top of anything similar letter wise which caused a ton of confusion in regards to our game. We even got a few people who reported issues for the wrong game lol. We were still in EA and it made sense to change it so we came up with a name that related to our characters/theme and changed it.

[@Soulessblur]

​@@PixogenPixelswhile it brought about a fair bit of unavoidable confusion name changing after the game was already publicly available, I do think the new title works much better thematically!

[@PixogenPixels]

@@SoulessblurYeah I think it worked out and with the large influx of new players it’s been awhile since anyone actually mentioned it!

[@LurkingLeviathan]

0:15 when I feel like that I just watch you play dark souls 😅

[@overbload]

That's a fact

[@juicyjuice817]

Fax

[@scythekizin]

Oh look! Its legally distinct Vampire Survivors! Looks like an amazing game though and all the references are cool.

[@Gecti]

Don’t you mean legally distinct Holocure 😐

[@Afferodolor]

Insane mouth noise warning at 17:15 for anyone who likes to fall asleep to these videos

[@AzureWargbjorn]

Had to watch that part few times lol

[@austinclements8010]

If my RPG play history is anything to go by, id just pick necromancer everytime xD any kind of summoner/necromancer in video games is always my first choice

[@gamerdad687]

Look at all those Tony's on the thumbnail! Tis the season!

[@davidbronn9174]

Love this. " sometimes i wanna play darksouls without the 1% drops or getting good." Later, "but if you just get good..."

[@ericb3157]

this reminds me of a similar style game called "Diebrary". i learned a skill that makes clouds of poison gas, and one that makes small lightning turrets nearby. by upgrading the size of the clouds and the power of the turrets, i only needed to move to avoid enemy projectiles.

[@SketchSkarLive]

In vampire survivors my favorite thing is to enter the library and create the most minimal effort build possible before running around and grabbing all the items on the map so you can hold 4 extra items Santa water, the Bible, the item that gives you a bigger item pickup and then you can grab whatever you like afterwards The two guns with the revival tome is perfect And the cards allow you to buff the evolved Bible item even more so that now when they disappear they will explode You can also pair this with garlic and recovery for extra heals and lifesteal as well as more AOE Next all you need is something to freeze the grim reapers at the end of the stage The cloak or clone robes or whatever it's called is perfect as it already pairs well with the items we are grabbing and will drive the grim reapers away from you instead of coming by and instantly killing you Next if youve evolved the guns into one weapon you can now get the laurel which gives you a shield that blocks hits I don't remember what it takes but go ahead and evolve it and you have a really really good item on your hands that will protect you for when the grim reapers just fly by The enemies in vampire survivors if they go off screen will just teleport to a random section outside your field of view and come back after you When they get close they'll aggro to the clones from the robes which again freeze them explode and deal damage as they pass by the grim reapers But if they pass by you before reaching the clones they'll hit you which will almost always end with a one shot kill Tome of revival and the recharging shield as well as by now you will have grabbed the book that evolves your Bible and the recharge speed of the shield clones Bible Santa water and literally anything else will be a lot faster including the tick rate for the garlics damage At this point you can leave the game running for a long time at a random part of the map and no more enemies but grim reapers will spawn in past the default 30 minute mark and they'll keep respawning every single minute until you kill one of them which if you put the build together correctly can happen within the next 6-20 minutes it heavily depends on what weapon you choose in place of the evolved guns Crown and moon whatever bullshit and you'll get a ton of damage Everytime it happens which is a lot faster than the guns There's probably other weapons that are better in vampire survivors that will let you accomplish this but sadly it's been like a year I don't remember anything about the weapons except for these few which were my favorites If someone just so happens to be reading this comment and wants to try it out I'll let you know you can unlock an endless mode I just like to do the normal mode or double speed mode because you get more golden eggs out of it which are permanent upgrades for the character you choose You do have to be careful tho if you increase the projectile speeds too much the clone robes will send the clones off screen so fast that the grim reapers won't actually see them because well they're off screen and will just come eat your shield and kill you really quick

[@chrismanuel9768]

If you max out both rings and both Metalo items from the 4 mini bosses on either side of the library and have Laurel, clock lancet, and armor, you actually become immortal. The Metalo-enhanced Laurel robe makes it so that even when your shield is finally broken, you cannot take more than 10 points of damage still any attack.

[@SketchSkarLive]

@@chrismanuel9768 my only reason for not using the lancet is because it doesn't just freeze them it also does so much damage I think that it becomes impossible to actually build up multiple grim reapers by the end to get a good amount of golden eggs That's pretty strong tho

[@mattyholt2012]

As redemption for your evil words against such a beautiful sweet natured orphaned pet rock , you should beat the game with your pet rock and live a rock based life @34:40

[@makyrgamyng9424]

I know it's a relatively small part of your videos, but I love the art! The thumbnails, funny lil' cutout guys, even the sponsor sections!

[@RandomRikster]

Lemon!! Ever since I got my Lemon plushie, I always make sure to watch your videos with him. I even went back and watched some of my favorites of your older videos. It just feels right to show him where he comes from. I love my Lemon plush and I'm so glad you made them! (For legal reasons: I was not paid to write this comment, I just really love having a tiny Lemon to teach the ways of the Firebomb)

[@braydenhenson5944]

Just got off work and this video made my day infinitely better I've been waiting to get off work to watch this

[@fredclasson7865]

I always like seeing you analyzing the game at the start of the videos. And what works and not.

[@flamehad3630]

I love that Lemon challenge running the game only made the "challenges" of the game easier because he was already standing still. Also the catharsis at the end was sooooo funny. Just overall formatting for the video was perfect. Not super funny or sexy feedback but considering how good your usual editing and video story/formatting is, that a pretty big win.

[@alephnole7009]

Having played this game I understand that struggle of beating the flesh golem. Even being able to run away doesn't make that fucker any easier

[@joshuagriffin5917]

@TheBackLogs is the best advertisement since he plays rogue games exactly how I always do haha

[@hargreaves19]

2 hours after the video comes out and I've just bought a new game 😅. Cheap to only £4.50 on switch, you pay more than that for coffee at some shops. Thanks lemon it looks like a fun time.

[@hargreaves19]

Just come across a bomb satchel at the merchants shop, firebomb run when?

[@thelontum2038]

Leaving a like and comment in exchange for not watching the whole vid. wanting to just experience the game myself, so thanks for the recommendation!

[@vocalman81]

Oh nice, I've been playing this one for awhile too. Great game

[@dooomninja]

ok so i actually managed a true no move run on the survivor like "holocure", one of the characters in that game has abilities that are conducive to not moving, including the ability to absorb all exp bubbles no matter where they are. also it's really interesting how different survivorlikes can play very differently despite using the same mechanics, take something simple like survivability vs healing; if healing is readily available but you can die quickly if you are overwhelmed then you need to be more aggressive in culling the attackers, but if the reverse is true then you need to be very careful to avoid chip damage between big encounters.

[@wolfsraynefan]

Okay, now that I see what this game is I can totally see how this challenge can actually work lol. It's similar to Vampire Survivors and one of my favorite things to do in that game is play Peppino, a literal christmas tree that move 3 pixels a second, and just stand there doing nothing. Obviously with all the bonus upgrades unlocked and the secret stuff that can be activated, it's not too difficult to just stand there and do nothing while racking in the success, but it's always fun to see someone do this in other games and show the slog it can truly be from fresh.

[@Ghostface_killer]

Kinda just looks like vampire survivors especially with the walls of flowers

[@mankakez]

This game looks dope, I'm definitely gonna have to look into it

[@elemental-zweihander]

With passive skills, any game can be an idle game

[@inskeeprulerable]

I would love to see more challenge runs of this game! I'm gonna have to pick this up, as well.

[@gromaxe]

11:30 I like the D&D explanation! Also, sounds like a fun homebrew class idea, I'll just make shutter not hurt the caster

[@Zorgdub]

As a huge Dex fan, I'm familiar with no movement challenge in Survivors-type game. I like where this is going.

[@DJxD221]

i dont know what keepers toll is but im still gonna watch

[@thewolfstu]

To know peace is to stand stalwart amongst the storm, and not just amongst it, but against it, for nothing breaks the wakes of chaos like the mighty stone.

[@mumtrz]

20:20 “one full scween”

[@emperor_prime2011]

I just bought the game on Steam and it's really great. Reminds me a bit of Vampire Survivors, minus the Darks Souls gimmicks like Mimics and invaders.

[@xdean816]

This whole channel just feels like a big commercial for whatever company pays him anymore 😊

[@bobajeens6029]

Hi lemon 🍋. You know what needs a lot of movement? Kingdom of Amalur! Can you beat Kingdom of Amalur Re: reckoning with magic spells only?

[@BromElda]

This needs to happen

[@andylaw3222]

The answer is YES Magic is literally the strongest thing you have in the game But he should play on the hardest difficulty or else it's not really a challenge

[@DaSoulKing]

Geez thanks lemon i was trying to save money now im out 5ish bucks cause now i have to try this game goodjob pal! (For real tho big fan love your videos)

[@AaronCorr]

I'm ever so slightly disappointed that this isn't a hidden gem from the DOS era. The title screen got my hopes up

[@ScholarlyDeathmark]

Hi. I'm your FBI agent. Appreciate the shoutout dude. Really helps.

[@lolowski6826]

1:21 Get out of my internet browser!

[@freack3333]

"The Calcium Cartel" got me. 🤣

[@BigBenjamin74]

Calcium cartel is my favorite thing I've heard this year. Thank you for that

[@Helmotz.]

Imagine slowly disintegrating into the void only to be greeted by a kick to the face

[@DraconisLeonidas]

HARVEY! No lies, any time Harvey 'shows up' in a vid, it makes me smile so much. It's incredibly dumb, but also it's fun.

[@velarswood]

This run reminds me of the whole adage of people working harder to not work.

[@jshtng78]

Protip, though it may go against the style of this kind of video: Things in game tend to cooperate if you show them a great deal of visible respect and reverence. Not sure why nobody has tried this yet.

[@Frishfries_2]

Ahhhh the Q&A run

[@patrickdeck4975]

20:38 infinitely easier is ok, I’m just here for more backlogs. Thanks for a long one today!

[@generalgrievous1719]

You and I have very conflicting views funny armored knight man I for one love skeletons necromancy and summon builds (kinda sold me on getting this game the second I heard necromancer) so I was very happy to hear you would be playing it for this run anyways love ya keep up the amazing videos there so entertaining

[@Tachungus]

The "Misty step then Shatter" reference is super underrated

[@callmedara]

Travelling home by bus right now so thanks for the entertainment Lemon ❤️ looking forward to this

[@alexkuhn5188]

That Poyo at the end made me crack up!

[@aurorasguard]

Blood Maiden straight up got Eleonora's Poleblade

[@wyattbaldwin9035]

Ok, hear me out. A zweihander only run od DS 1. At this point he has well and truly earned it

[@terminasitor769]

Didn't know that this game existed, I got it and I really like it so far!

[@celestialcthulhu773]

I'm still waiting for Harvey to be made into a character who shows up in your intros/outros. He needs his screentime!

[@PandaUnfortunate]

11:30 "A combination of Misty Step and Shatter" So Thunder Step but reversed (Going boom after you arrive at your new space rather than when you leave your current)

[@snowboundwhale6860]

Honestly I'm a tad surprised the necromancer wasn't the first pick given how minions collecting exp for you helps cope with possibly the biggest challenge of "no moving" runs in any of these types of games, not getting the exp to level up and therefore not having access to skills/ items at the rate you normally would, like a reverse snowball effect where you slowly get further and further behind. That said I understand why Sexy Party Solaire: Firebomb edition was, how could he not be?

[@nathanhennig5884]

I really hope this brings a lot of players to Keeper's Toll. There's almost no community content if you're looking for things like achievement guides. Kind of irritating since I like reading guides, not writing them xD

[@bobbyboswell13]

this video just reminded me of my go to build on vampire survivor its so ridiculous that on endless mode i can literally walk away and its slaughters i remember its fully evolved dual guns, tome, and laser gun and then the other three change per level

[@LadyGameshine]

New Backlogs video! This will keep me occupied through breakfast! ^v^

[@TheRandomEevee]

Can't wait for the Lies of P with only firebombs run

[@royalpain4209]

Love the upload amount

[@andronicus3263]

You just gave me a new addiction

[@StickmanEvil]

Hey Lemon! Have you heard of the game Windblown? Its a neat roguelike with some very fast-paced gameplay, some very satisfying combat, and a *killer* soundtrack. I'd love to see you give it a whirl! Theres also plenty of explosive goodness for the Firebomb Academy XD

[@TCantwell]

At this point, one day lemon is gona show up like "today we will find out, can you beat real life, without taxes". 😂

[@Lylac_T]

Skip sponsor:calm. The sponsor is the game:panic.

[@Blade12113]

Ah yes can I get Couch Potato in Keeper's Toll

[@psinjo]

17:16 .. i have no words... i did not expect that i may have spit out my water and almost fallen out of bed i was laughing so hard >

[@little_tornado1804]

Orb of creation, not Cookie Clicker, but dang good callout sir. Excellect swing-back after the FBI joke.

[@ggavalon5803]

I wanna see Lemon try Code Vein. It’s my favourite souls-like

[@grunner7557]

"Well look who came crawling back, Meatbag." -Tony.

[@intrepid_tank1547]

Hmm, now I'm tempted to buy another survivors game

[@Mr.Shaytan]

I think "D&D: Shadow over Mystara" only with firebombs is a good challenge. 😁

[@BabushkaKoi]

This reminds me of 20 Minutes Till Dawn and I loved my time with that game so I’ll check this out too

[@danamir4798]

I'm not sure if that already existed when you made this video, but the ranger has a "free aim" mode which lets you aim in any direction, and also a few ways to retrieve far souls. I wonder if you would do it differently with these changes if you were to revisit this challenge

[@topuser6982]

Hell yeah, let's make vampire survivors copies for the rest of the industry!! XDD

[@Die4Gesichter]

I started last week with Vampire Survivors and now you upload thos - COINCIDENCE!? I THINK N-- well yes, obviously

[@nawafxgames746]

Never thought that tony would carry a run

[@sinfuriated6899]

LEEEEMON! You need to stop making me buy new games to add to my backlog, ffs... Fine, add to cart.

[@xlittlecountryx1733]

0:10 This is exactly how I feel about Pokēmon.

[@Lordcinder569]

I like the cult of the lamb music in the back

[@MCLefka]

I just bought this game yesterday on Switch, and then poof, find a backlogs video covering it. I am scared

[@seanhennessy3968]

Ad successful, grabbed on Switch. Not bad! Or course, my favorite character so far has been the pyromancer.

[@Caleb22222]

9:06 I never thought to put Eileen the Crow on my legally distinct bingo card

[@theawesomemegamind7665]

I love the vids that make me try new games thank you lemon

[@ZeRedSpy]

Hey Lemon, I've been doing a playthrough of Elden Ring where I used Cheat Engine to give myself full stacks of crafting ingredients. It was a lot of fun. I'm sure your viewers would understand if you did a consumables/bow only run and gave yourself stacks of any ingredient that could be farmed. I understand if you don't want to play this way; either because you don't feel right cheating yourself stacks or because Elden Ring is too long to make a good challenge run. I'm at 120 hours and just about to dive into the DLC for the first time XD

[@enlongjones2394]

Honestly, bows are fine for crafting. You can get a lot of arrows for the same crafting investment as one fire pot. I did do a consumables-only run, which was fun. But it did mean knives and such instead of only pots.

[@Tom3kkk]

classic souls player "yeah Im cheating but u gotta get gud hehe!!!!" enjoy your slop sir!

[@ZeRedSpy]

I uh, never claimed Lemon wasn't good at the game. Elden Ring is just really long and he doesn't have a ton of free time. Even with cheating in the consumables he could probably do like 4 other challenge runs of different games in the time it would take him to do consumables only.

[@ZeRedSpy]

@@enlongjones2394 Arrows aren't the worst, yeah. But as someone who beat the game when it first came out I'm having so much more fun on my second playthrough with just having full boluses when crossing the late of rot and stuff.

[@vinceb8123]

​@@ZeRedSpy enjoy the dlc, it got some incredible stuff

[@cavendishbandana8706]

00:09 I get that feeling completely.

[@EarCat]

With how many SPS references there was, Lemon was honestly playing as a Neck Romancer instead

[@mitch25232]

Wulfgar, one of the two bosses in the lava world may be a reference to the Forgotten Realms books character of the same name. If you didn't catch that one that is

[@PixogenPixels]

There’s plenty of throw backs, some people got some right and others think they are when they are not. One big one I’ve never seen mentioned is resident evil 1’s zombie dogs in the first area. We have a lot of snes throw backs too, some anime. EverQuest/World of Warcraft. Even Mortal Kombat. Bloodsap was inspired by the Majoras Mask moon. Oh and a hidden reference to the movie Cable Guy haha. Most things are actually just part of Keeper’s Toll lore though. But we couldn’t help but be inspired by the many things that shaped us over the years as designers and artists!

[@enlongjones2394]

Makes me want to try Vampire Survivors with a similar challenge. Obviously you can’t do much to unlock characters without moving at first, but I think Poe might just be the kind of character to try with this.

[@thaddeusgenhelm8979]

I will say, it seems like Keeper's Toll at least learned to avoid the "most builds end up kind of the same-y and completely invulnerable by the late game" issue I usually have with Vampire Survivors. ... Tangentially, I think I'm just done with VS, I find myself regretting starting runs while there are still 10-15 minutes left of them because I've gotten too consistent at making my builds tediously invulnerable too early on. The Castlevania DLC looks cool, but I can't bring myself to come back to the game for it.