Can You Beat Pokemon Red/Blue with Just Onix?

In this challenge I attempt to beat Pokemon Red with only an Onix. Onix has always been a terrible Pokemon in generation one and so I wanted to see if it was possible to beat the game with only one. The results surprised me! Thanks to JRose11 for his awesome videos and the inspiration to start making these videos.
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[@umbraluna8387]

I find it both hilarious and sad how weak onix is. Here's a fact: sentret and ditto have a higher attack stat than onix.

[@Wildtrexkid]

Onix suffered a terrible fate due to game design. the Devs were worried that a single stage standard statted Onix would be far too difficult as a challenge for the first gym. to make the Onix still a 'boss' they made it have great defence, but every other stat was massively nerfed to make it much easier for new players to beat. if they had only nerfed the onix Brock used it would've been fine, but instead they made ALL Onix have the terrible stats which is a shame. it means that you basically HAVE to use Steelix, cannot use Brock's Signature pokemon well(and just a cool pokemon on its own) and just in general leaves it bad for no other reason.

[@Katalowins]

@@Wildtrexkid It is the fastest rock Pokémon in gen 1 though. So as a wrapper, it isn’t entirely useless.

[@Wildtrexkid]

@@Katalowins Aerodactyl and Kabutops are both faster, Aero being one of the fastest and still is with its 130 speed putting it in the top like 30 today, but ya onix is 3rd out of gen 1 rocks, doesn't matter too much when his attack was that of a Pidgey so even if it outsped it didnt hurt the opponent. +10 to all stats except defence and a +30 or 35 in attack and Onix would be a solid single stage pokemon with a place compared to the Geodude and Rhyhorn lines as a viable ground/rock pokemon while also having later value as a not fully evolved pokemon. it would be a variable option with the other lines being slower but hitting much harder whilst onix had a tiny bit more defence and speed but didn't have the same firepower. the problem with the Steelix fix is it makes Onix redundant compared to Scyther and Scizor. Scizor is still waaayyy more powerful as a pokemon in general, BUT it doesn't make scyther totally useless AND scyther is actually faster than Scizor so if you wanted the speed it was something to at least give a reason to keep. Onix is around for ppl waiting to evolve it

[@peteypiranalover]

Sewaddle, grubbin, rattata, nidoran butterfree have more attack as well just to quickly add some

[@Deoxys_Used_Mimic]

Rock-Type moves have had really bad accuracy throughout the series. ...and then Stealth Rock happened.

[@LocksAndChains]

Power Gem, too.

[@SnowyTotodile]

I suppose it'd be more accurate to say 'physical' Rock type moves, then. Barring Z-moves and Dynamax moves which are limited use and never miss, Hidden Power Rock and Ancient Power are technically the only 'physical' Rock moves to both have 100% accuracy and 60 or more base power. They became 'special' moves in Generation IV, which is what all of the good 100% accurate Rock type moves currently are. Sure, we got Accelerock and Smack Down, but their base powers are fairly low. Accelerock is just a Rock type Quick Attack (sort of like Aqua Jet, Shadow Sneak, etc.) but only one Pokémon species can learn it, where Smack Down's secondary effect is very situational.

[@shikarixox1195]

You definitely chose an easier option for the rival. He has hydro pump and blizzard, both relatively low accuracy and he uses Arcanine. With Venusaur he has 3 grass moves, one of which both recovers his health and has 100% accuracy and another will critical hit you every time. He also will have gyarados on his team.

[@karotconcarne3325]

"I haven't unlearned dig because it can be used more tactically, so I tactically let alakazam use barier, this confuses me..." Dude, my sides are in friggin orbit, loved that part. Also, thanks for doing an Onix run, I really really wanted to see one, and it happened, much obliged.

[@fifaworldcup1994]

Scott: "I think Harden is gonna be key later on, when we need to setup Badge Boosts" Also Scott: *never ends up using Harden for the rest of the run*

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Yeah... my bad... I write the script as I play so I don't know what the future holds!

[@fifaworldcup1994]

@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon Don't worry mate, I just thought that was pretty funny.

[@Skylerrelyks93]

I think screech was the move to keep. Badge boost won’t increase your attack by all that much compared to the difference in defense being dropped by screech. Guess it doesn’t matter

[@shanoc5902]

@@Skylerrelyks93 The problem is that using screech would be dangerous. Any pokemon that is dangerous and you'd need the extra damage to kill before they kill you, giving them 1 free turn like screech would likely still result in you dying. The advantage of the badge boost is that you can find a weaker pokemon that's safe to setup against earlier in the fight that's not a threat to get a compounding 12.5% attack boost, allowing you to at *least* double your attack power (as you can apply it 7 times, 6 from Harden and once normally) giving the dangerous pokemon in question only 1 turn to attack instead of 2 like screech would allow.

[@InfernosReaper]

@@Skylerrelyks93 Badge boost will raise *all* of the stats after beating the gym leaders, so it really helps overall

[@InfernosReaper]

In gen1 there's no real tactical advantage against the NPCs, since they have *infinite* PP, so dig just ends up having the drawbacks of giving leechseed, poison, enemy buffing, etc. a free round on you.

[@se6369]

Or potentially the opposite, but not in this case

[@priestesslucy3299]

The most valuable thing about Dig is that you can hang onto it as long as possible, abandon it for something else when necessary, and then replace _that_ with EQ

[@terraSpark902]

He should have kept Bind, learned Toxic, keep Dig, and rock slide

[@brandontownsend2756]

If you learn a move like toxic then dig would have a tactical advantage. Can also be used to go underground for an opponent's 2 turn attack.

[@punkkimiko]

Wow you were at 198 a few days ago! Keep it up! These are fun to watch.

[@Kanbei11]

The algorithm is favouring the channel and thank goodness because that's how I found it

[@kieronblundell9037]

Same man, Jrose took a break. Scott fills that gap. Not disparaging. You deserve the views great content - well edited and you clearly put the time in to do an onix run! Keep em coming dude. Also. I would love to see a Snorlax run, great move set. Good stats & one of the shortest calls in all gen1. I think he's got great potential for a fast run & would love to see!

[@dxjxc91]

Today I learned something new about a ~25 yo game: dig had 100 base power in gen 1. Got nerfed to 60 power in gen 2 and buffed up to 80 power in gen 5.

[@james_ford86]

He doesn't have an Arcanine in the fight before the Elite 4 because Growlithe is still only level 45. Growlithe learns Flamethrower at level 50. If he evolves Growlithe before level 50, Arcanine will not learn Flamethrower. That's why. This is coming from a guy that almost always takes the grass or water starter and catches a Growlithe to be his fire type.

[@samvanheuckelom6622]

Sorry for the late responds that would be the case for normal trainers but arcanine actually doesnt get flamethrower in his final fight since they give arcanine and exeggutor the moves they can have on that lvl without looking at there pre evolution. Why? No idea gen 1 being gen 1?

[@james_ford86]

@@samvanheuckelom6622 I could have sworn Blue's Arcanine knew Flamethrower/Fire Blast. What a dev mistake! Wow!

[@luizbezerra4373]

@@james_ford86 Blue's Arcanine, Exeggutor and Gyarados have basically their level up moves when you fight them. So you see weird stuff like Exeggutor with Hypnosis instead of Sleep Powder (which his Exeggcute had on the fight before Elite 4)

[@jamesbondbaugh1252]

25:15 “Go into this fight with as much PP as possible” & “Long and drawn out” equals making my inner middle schooler laugh lol

[@davidthorn5554]

You are close to being on the same level as jrose in my eyes man I’ve been watching your older videos since finding your new ones keep it up my man 👍👍

[@tupacshakur5868]

it's funny that jrose11 was your inspiration to do this but i actually enjoy your content more...xD

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Damn! Thanks man. I'm really glad you're enjoying my stuff.

[@n64_kfp]

As a kid I thought Onix looked so cool. I mean, who doesn't want a giant rock snake? But the poor stats and moveset make it an easy choice to ditch in your pc.

[@sirjashugan0]

Nice content On your decision to use dig over earthquake, it would make sense in later generations where NPC have PP but in gen1 they do have unlimited pp so there is no benefit else than the pleasure of making opponent miss moves (which is a valid enough reason to use dig over earthquake :p)

[@altitudemanagement]

Reasons to use earthquake over dig 1) you could get statused- taking 2 turns to do damage means you'll take more poison or burn damage, have more chances to be paralyzed or hit yourself in confusion 2) opponent can use defensive moves like harden, amnesia, agility, swords dance, barrier, reflect, recover, substitute, mimic. 3) can charge a two turn move like Skull Bash or Solar Beam, or hit you with Hyper Beam before you go underground and recharge for free. Another turn for them to wake from sleep if you status them or they have rest. 4) you can still get hit by swift (I don't think earthquake hits in gen 1?) Reasons to use dig over earthquake 1) you can status them (except for sleep)

[@jakerockznoodles]

@@altitudemanagement Depends on whether you are playing against a person or AI. In both gen 1 Gameboy games and Stadium (3) can be used just as much to your advantage, consistently letting them set up a 2 turn move then ducking underground so they can't actually hit you. I was amazed playing Stadium about how dumb the computer could be in this regard, sometimes never hitting me at all because they insisted on using two turn moves that I could simply avoid. And certain trainers love of using explosion can make it even more hilariously useful. It's also a good stall tactic for after using toxic, especially as in the first Stadium, there was no way of using healing items. I believe Haze is the only way of removing afflictions like poison and paralysis in the first game because items weren't allowed and berries weren't a thing yet. Against actual people it's an incredibly flawed move, though, and earthquake would always be the better option.

[@altitudemanagement]

@@jakerockznoodles good point about dodging two turn moves, which I guess should have stood out when I mentioned them getting a free recharge on Hyper Beam. If dig can dodge the recharge, it can certainly dodge the hit as well! Hyper Beam wouldn't need to recharge, but solar beam and skull bash certainly would look foolish! And of course you can dodge dig with dig as well.

[@shanoc5902]

@@altitudemanagement The moves with charge up turns will either fall in or out of dig's favor based on who's faster and depending on how things work out. In the case of Solarbeam, if Scott had given the Rival Bulbasaur Solarbeam probably would have been a big concern and thus waiting until he started charging for Solarbeam and then using dig would be a very good strategy, Onyx actually has pretty good speed given how a lot of these challenges go, so when you add in the higher level advantage and the speed Stat experience (the Gen 1 and 2 version of EVs) they would have, Onyx would typically outspeed giving Dig a good tactical advantage against Venasaur, but a bad match-up against the Execute fights.

[@williambrinkmeier1772]

Sad they made some pokemon terrible for balance reasons like making onix have a terrible hp stat despite being one of the biggest pokemon in gen 1 same with gyarados being a flying type over dragon despite never flying in the anime and learning no flying moves .

[@iantaakalla8180]

I love that in order to be a good Rock type, you must have a signature move that is Rock type, or be Tyranitar, which runs on wide coverage and high defenses.

[@thinking_about_beer]

I watch all your and jrose s videos. Fantastic commentary and entertainment!

[@budcheefer6823]

Onix... I remember my first blue version playthrough and I didn't understand anything about it Brocks Onix had me stuck for awhile... great video!!

[@gamerdude491]

Onix is probably my #1 most disappointing Pokemon as far as stats go.

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Yeah.... so true.

[@hjelsethak]

Finally! Someone showing respect for rock-snek! :''')

[@joaogomes9405]

7:52 Your onix wasn't a good onix because there's no such thing as a good onix

[@aprinnyonbreak1290]

Gen 4 early game Onix isn't just a good Onix, it's a fantastic ingame pokemon.

[@alexkennedy4990]

I think they gave Onix such poor stats because it was used by the first Gym Leader in the game, and they had to make that fight more reasonable. It's a shame.

[@aprinnyonbreak1290]

There's a handful of pokemon with stats like that. Nosepass is another one, along with very likely Miltank. Nearly every single stage pokemon that features prominently on the team of a leader, Elite 4, champ, or rival kinda falls into the category, really. Honestly, pseudos before Goodra as well (with the odd exception of Tyranitar), mostly have types and stats more suited to be an ultimate boss pokemon used by endgame trainers, that ostensibly resist and counter the starters, even if in practice that doesn't often play out. Especially Garchomp, which is also precisely statted to beat Palkia and Dialga in a vacuum.

[@iantaakalla8180]

Actually, the elemental monkeys and Bombirdier also fit this role. As for the trend of Gym 1 aces sucking, Teddiursa dodges this, and that is less that Teddiursa is that good and more that Teddiursa attacks hard and is in a competitively-minded region that thinks to combo Tera Bug with Fury Swipes. Even then, the Teddiursa line is a fluke amidst Gym 1 aces, and Teddiursa isn’t single stage anyways, and Katy specifically prefers using Ursaring anyways.

[@urpalalis]

I love how you placed onix's base stats on the screen such that we could see you naming the rival "BUTT", as is tradition. loving these vids. been binging them all over the past few days and am excited for more!

[@BIueChangeling]

I don't know what it is about your voice or your vidos but I highly love your vidoes recently . They just give me something back I thought I lost long time ago.

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

[@milkdud8993]

I am pleasantly surprised Onix did so well. Thanks for playing through with it!

[@jasonrustmann9876]

Poor onix, they got so shafted by GF, they should have crazy high everything! It's a GIANT ROCK SNAKE for crying out loud! Rock types in general got hosed in R/B/Y, they're supposed to be super tough, but get obliterated by ANY grass or water move because they all have abysmal special stats, the only thing they're good against is normal types with only normal moves

[@Matthias.Abaddon]

So Giovanni uses guard spec, to my knowledge, is mainly to prevent people from using sand attack, screech, etc and with his type selection to make poisoning and paralyzing him impossible, so the only status effects you can do are to yourself and can't rely on paralysis and toxic to beat him. Gives the idea that it's an unfair fight by removing a lot of different strategies if you don't have good type matches.

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

This may prove to be extremely challenging in a new run I'm working on...

[@Matthias.Abaddon]

Haha let's hope it's not voltorb all over again!

[@bongosmcdongos4190]

It's a shame he's not strong enough to withstand basic attacks. That sounds like a fun boss fight tbh

[@KreepyKat911]

@bongos mcdongos I sorta wish Giovanni was known for "cheating" or something like that. Would make for more memorable battles with him.

[@theTweak0284]

@@KreepyKat911 Like using an item and attacking same turn every 4 turns or once if the pokemon hit red health

[@dragiceryudo5745]

Giovanni just wants a fair fight to prove he's the best. No badge boost for him.

[@vergillives9890]

I heard Oddish had a better attack stat aww so sad

[@rickmoreno6263]

I do like the channel BUT Can you say it's an easy run if you've played 17hrs, 25 mins at Silph Co?

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Emulator is really funky with game time. If I leave it on while not playing and eating lunch etc it records time and the I usually play between 2-4x game speed. Unfortunately at 1x speed my footage is really chunky and laggy after switching to a new computer. Not sure how to get it smoothed out. I've thought about recording real time spent playing the challenge as a metric but I'm worried I will forget to restart the timer when I start playing again.

[@actofcawd209]

Onix is one of the most deceptively weak Pokemon ever. Looks huge and menacing like a final stage or legendary Pokemon, yet Onix's stats are as bad if not worse than many Route 1 Pokemon. (excluding it's defense of 160)

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

All defense, nothing else.....

[@無名兄弟-i7m]

The truth hurts

[@Wildtrexkid]

Game Design, Devs were worried Onix would be too powerful and hard to beat for the first gym so they made its stats awful in everything but defence, so it would still seem tough to beat cuz it tanks damage, but doesn't do any so its a terrible single stage. they 'fixed' it with Steelix, but it leaves Onix still as totally awful. at least with Scyther/Scizor you can actually make a choice since Scyther still does decently on its own and actually has higher speed than Scizor for a reason to keep it unevolved. just wish they only made Brock's Onix have the terrible stats and leave the others more balanced, they have made special exceptions for stats in this generation since the Yellow Version Pikachu basically has a Light Ball, the stats are very boosted and when traded forward to Gen 2 it comes with a Light Ball ^^.

[@abelramirezampuero9694]

Nice i love your challenges, brings me some memories too, keep up the great content, i enjoy your videos a lot !

[@ashleyismaddkewl]

Just found your channel from a recommendation. Love the content, keep it up! Subscribed and rang the bell :)

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Thanks so much :) I'm glad you're enjoying the content!

[@yokoelf1293]

"Hitmonchan uses Thunderpunch" God damnit Bruno.

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Always the best plays.

[@CelticGuardian7]

You could say this run... rocked.

[@wolfpackflt670]

Dragonite uses Barrier. Me: Cough cough.

[@tiemen9095]

Onix was made to look terrifying but faint really quickly to your starter.

[@thefierybrib]

In the Champion Battle you hit yourself in confusion while in the semi-invulnerabilty turn of Dig. This should trigger a glitch that makes you unable to be hit for the rest of the battle, but that was not the case in this video. Do you happen to know why?

[@MG-mq3zf]

I think you are thinking of getting fully paralyzed while in the semi-invulnerability turn of dig. I have heard of that triggering invulnerability in gen 1. EDIT: You are right that confusion damage can trigger it. However, I read about it, and it turns out that using dig again cancels the invulnerability affect since it counts as a "charging move." Other moves that cancel the invulnerability according to bulbapedia are Fly, Razor Wind, Skull Bash, and Solar Beam.

[@cyanideytcuriousseadoggo]

Might be using a rom that patches the bug out.

[@emblemwarrior11]

Late, but I believe the intention of the Guard Spec with Gio boy there is to prevent Accuracy hax with stuff like Sand Attack.

[@Medivh154]

Same Type Attackbonus is a Keyword in those Challanges, besides the Bagde-Boost Glitch Attacks from the same Type of your Pokemon increases your Dmg by 50%.

[@olavjorvik94]

*Talking about Giovannis Nidos* : "They have such a diverse movepool! They may strike with blizzard!" They have poison and Normal type moves...

[@TrueNomadSkies]

Onix and Geodude can be found pretty early on, and with the combination of a good rock and ground move, they're very good for the story mode. Rhydon is usually better because of the more diverse move pool, but with the amount of poison/rock/flying Pokemon, not to mention Dig being very useful outside of battle, these guys are far from terrible.

[@marcusmckanbackman]

Learns harden at lv 43.... Now that's something 😏

[@sceptilethehedgehog5862]

I Dont Plan On Doing Solo Runs. But Im Gonna Try Beating The Game With A Really Weak Team. My Starter Will Be Charizard, Then A Beedrill, An Onix, A Wigglytuff, A Kingler For Surf, And Parasect

[@theTweak0284]

The video stopped loading for met at 0:02 and it took me a solid 10 seconds to realize Scott wasn't pausing to make a point

[@legendx8365]

Onix my fav Pokémon it may not be the best battle-wise but it makes up for it in character!!!

[@JPayne95]

Did anyone else try catch an onix as a kid and end up wasting 100s of pokeballs ?

[@Yourauntstrailer]

In the last fight you should set up hardens on pidgeot it has no effective moves that would do any damage great run!!!!

[@leotheblackmexican229]

17:43 onix vs Ludacris lol when I dig you dig, just like that, aye dj bring that back..

[@Metalhammer1993]

Damn you really dabbed on Brock there. He got a geodude and an Onix same level as yours and you just nuke him

[@magnus_caseus1566]

Keep up the good work, brother. Comments are good for the KZbin algorithm

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Yes they are!

[@magnus_caseus1566]

@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon omg you replied to me. I'm a huge fan of yours. I love watching your play throughs when I'm going to bed or cleaning my house. Very entertaining. Hope you're doing well!!

[@pyramidofmoos2]

I think rock moves in general have lower accuracy for balancing reasons, at least originally, rock is one of the most offensively strong types in the game, only being resisted by steel, ground and fighting, and having no type immune to it. Rock types can often be found early on in the game as well unlike other strong offensive types like dragon or ice, still it does seem insane that they've kept it this way to this day.

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

I always thought it was because throwing a big rock with precise accuracy was a difficult thing to do. Your reasoning seems more intelligent.

[@pyramidofmoos2]

@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon I think that's going to be my in game lore for rock moves accuracy from now on XD Also I think Giovanni got started as a guard spec salesman and rose his way up to become boss of a criminal organisation but he still holds fondness for his precious guard specs, it's like a first dollar kind of deal haha Really enjoying your videos man, keep up the awesome work! :)

[@escapecamper]

thanks Scott!

[@mickgorro]

By now I automatically assume we're on Yellow... until I see Surge's Voltorb and go "WT... oh it's red". Btw, oh the DIG-to-Cerulean strategy wasn't a thing yet :).

[@mickgorro]

Scott: * Does KOGA before ERIKA * Me: Is he gonna do it? Is he gonna pull a Jrose? Scott: * ERIKA right after KOGA * Me: Phew. Also, it's TANGLE-AH, not TANG-ELLA.

[@andersonantunesdeleu8591]

Hey Scott! I totally agree with you saying that Onix is way better than we imagine! Its solo run did surprised me! The better run I've seen with Onix so far! Can you, please, display the final time you spend to beat the game, I guess it would be curious to know how fast you can beat the game with a certain pokemon. For example, I could bet LAPRAS could beat the game with less than 4 hours, so it would be curious to me to know, well I guess for other friends too! But, on the whole your videos are really nice, I've been watching all of them an enjoying very much!! Thank you, friend!!!

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

I play with the emulator on x3-x4 time. It really messes with the internal clock on the Rom. I get some very high times, I'd assume each run takes me somewhere between 3-5 hours to complete the gameplay off but the internal clock will register like 20-30 hours of played time. I'll try to record with a stopwatch the play time for my next challenge and include that at the end! Thanks for the kind words!

[@andersonantunesdeleu8591]

@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon Ok! Thank you so much for the effort! It sure will be nice! You're welcome! I do appreciate your runs, and your words too! Wish you lots of success!!!

[@Birdkani]

Nice stuff, I look foward for your new video

[@atmosdwagon4656]

17:10 Did Blaine use a Super Potion on a full HP Pokemon?! Freaking Generation 1 A.I.

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

He does this regularly! It’s so funny

[@frankthetank520]

Go rocky. If you do a redo of this run you should name him Brocky

[@93stormer]

I always was a little enthralled with Onix. I don't know why, but I always had to have one when I played the game, its terrible stats notwithstanding. Maybe it's just the thought of having a giant snake made of rocks, or the fact that Brock's Onix was so frustrating to beginners. But it's really not a bad member to a team, since its high defense allows it to really take a physical hit. It's just those special moves that are so bad, especially water, ice or grass.

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Another factor that really adds to its mystique is the fact that it's pretty rare in the caves. Gives the impression that it's going to be a real powerhouse.

[@Acacius1992]

@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon and a nightmare to catch. At least when I try it these things always break out xD

[@Kanbei11]

You can also use it as an emergency staircase

[@parkermacinnis3977]

Why not give it Earthquake over Dig? Edit: never mind, you explained. Though still doesn't make sense.

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Indeed. It doesn't make sense.

[@Heartless-ij1sk]

Which fossil did you take?

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Helix!

[@charlesgould6530]

Tough not to throw a sub when I'm a few speed runs in. Thanks for the content. #scottydoesntknow

[@Mechadyne_0]

Yep, Water attacks are devastating to Onix. They’re all Special Attacks and Onix’s Special is pretty low. Plus it’s 4x weak to Water, so even small hits are DEVASTATING. Surprised you could topple Misty below Lv 40!

[@iantaakalla8180]

What even made it possible was Onix’s decent speed because Onix could start to outspeed Starmie. Had Onix had bad speed, that Misty fight may have stopped him for much longer.

[@peterkee354]

Is there a reason nobody seems to use the pokeflute when their pokemon are put to sleep?

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

I do! It's a great unlimited awakening. I don't use items in battle in these runs though.

[@peterkee354]

@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon yes I heard you say so on your zubat or onix video (whichever one this isn't- think zubat) after I watched this. Thank you for replying directly, I too use it for unlimited awakening.

[@james_ford86]

Had to correct my previous comment about Growlithe. In gen 1, it learns Flamethrower at level 50. I said level 49 because I was remembering how it was in the Fire-Red/Leaf-Green Gen 3 remakes.

[@uriwo7292]

You won every battle by Crit or miss

[@MeriadocMyr]

7:56 in gen one the only stat changes you get are stat experience.

[@classicallycommie6266]

What was the average base speed in gen 1? I always see people saying pokemon above 70 speed to be pretty fast but in other games 90-95 is usually when a pokemon is considered speedy

[@erchromchromer3702]

hi! i watched a few videos. I liked them. very much. If you do a can you beat pokemon gold with just a steelix. I'm going, for sure to subscribe :)

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Already planned. Steelix is my favourite gen 2 Pokemon :)

[@erchromchromer3702]

@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon me as well!!! forget the video... here is the subscription.

[@kieronblundell9037]

Not to keep comparing you to Jrose, but what is it with you guys and forgetting Erika!? Agree on Rival Final though, that shit just makes sense xx

[@martialmushi918]

Onix's stats are a Pokemon anomaly. How are you gonna give a giant rock snake base 35 HP and base 45 attack yet also give it base 70 speed?

[@justynm7332]

I wana see snorelax ! It starts with id assume it starts with bodyslam!!

[@M4XD4B0ZZ]

As a kid I always thought onix's lips look so strange like why design it like that Edit: omg just now I realized that the black pixels are supposed to be his open mouth o.o I always thought he has these strange lips (his nose actually??)

[@michaelriches6699]

Keep it up man love this content

[@patrickhanlon932]

Shout out to rival Fival.

[@PBK1977]

Shoutout to JRose too

[@mr.shuckle6656]

I know this is a older video bit wouldnt harden have helped you against erika? Ya know for the badge boost?

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Badge boost only gives boosts for the badges you currently have. So it wouldn't boost my special (since Blain gives the badge that boosts Special.)

[@markvanpopering4598]

You did have attack boost from Brock, so you could have uses six hardens against Tangela and one hit Vileplume.

[@timgonzales2891]

I used to use onix a lot in pokemo. Stadium 1. He was actually pretty solid if used in the right spots Idk why u don't use toxic more. I'd use toxic as his 4th move

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

He sort of dies really fast… not a great toxic user in this game.

[@askbats5407]

Do a run with metapod only

[@Banzybanz]

What tactical advantage are you getting here using Dig? The Hydropump explanation makes no sense either.

[@profesorgonzalezpontiles9070]

well played. subscribed :-D

[@Area51UFOGynaecology]

so lame that all those rock pokemon have to be ground also, fail

[@the_real_swiper]

26:45 is there a bike sound in the background?

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Good catch! My room has awful sound proofing and I live next to a busy road :(

[@the_real_swiper]

@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon It was an awesome run with Onix! Also your videos have a awesome quality and your style of commentating makes it rally enjoyable to watch these runs. Will you do someday a Steelix run in Johto?

[@mickgorro]

The Gen 2 traded Onix is called ROCKY, right? Is that a reference?

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

;)

[@MH_0015]

I got thought Game Freak just liked the Rocky movies. Idk.

[@reaperxdxgrim738]

I love onix he's my rockie baby

[@jonathancote9372]

i am now pronouncing it Kakangaskhan 09:30

[@subi-brz]

Poor Onix

[@scrubplaceholder6216]

Should have used harden non stop at pidgeot in the final battle, but hey still got it.

[@irvingamer2235]

onix is mu uncle favorite pokemon

[@MeriadocMyr]

Also i wonder how onix would do with a toxic stall set

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

That's a neat idea!

[@HatZ.PetoriaZero]

I am stuck at Lorelei. Even at level 77, either the Cloyster or Slowbro will KO me. Should I just learn Fissure?

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Just remember that Fissure only can hit if you are out speeding your opponent.

[@HatZ.PetoriaZero]

@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon Nevermind. I beat the game with an Onix that has: Body Slam Earthquake Harden Rock Slide

[@MewMewMewMewMew391]

Yeah I didn't like this pokemon as much. I do like it's evolution though lol

[@reaperxdxgrim738]

Noice

[@ReederMG]

For the algorithm

[@shawnruby7011]

Tahn-jell-uh

[@leotheblackmexican229]

#jrose11 started me on this retro pokemon path as well. I'm tryna steam a challenge ya ain't never did yet. I just need to start uploading

[@greggchambers9716]

It's "versus", not "verse". Small thing, but please bear it in mind going forward.

[@raccoonman5341]

No

[@zerraticz]

Scott has a girlfriend!

[@thefierybrib]

In the Champion Battle you hit yourself in confusion while in the semi-invulnerabilty turn of Dig. This should trigger a glitch that makes you unable to be hit for the rest of the battle, but that was not the case in this video. Do you happen to know why?