Can You Beat Sonic The Hedgehog As Sonic Without Moving Sonic?

[@bobbob1876]

Tails: *does all the work, saving Sonic's life multiple times* The game: SONIC GOT THROUGH ACT 1!

[@ajgaming-j4y]

Poor tails

[@SonicWarrior1]

24:23 Even when doing absolutely nothing Sonic still finds new ways to reinvent the Tails Abuse wheel.

[@DragonFetus]

Sonic is doing the over-the-edge animation because is is starting to suffer from atrophy from not using his legs, so whenever he stands, he is hurt and can barely stand.

[@TheDiego908]

Finally, a picture of Sonic without shoes that doesn't make me feel nauseous

[@mrman2557]

That’s what his feet look like canonically

[@shoopdahoop2221]

@@mrman2557 sonic characters literally have round blobs for feet, tikal and big are wearing sandals

[@Dan-do2pl]

*where do you have to be to find these? Pretty sus ngl*

[@Invidente7]

@@mrman2557 in the movie you can see bits of his feet when his tennis are worn down.

[@shoopdahoop2221]

WHY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THIS STOP IT

[@SenatorArmstrong2018]

I was half expecting this to be a 5 second video with the word “NO” plastered on the screen.

[@BohepansTheThird]

And Robotnik from Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog shouting "No!" in the background, preferably when yelling at Scratch and Grounder.

[@paulo547]

The character in your pfp looks like a French politician.

[@aagh8714]

@@paulo547 i gotta know this guys name

[@paulo547]

@@aagh8714 Jean castex

[@nikokuma1087]

@@paulo547 now that you said it, it do look like him

[@rellim10]

So when is the romhack where sonic breaks his legs and tails has to push him through the game in a wheelchair

[@TheLakabanzaichrg]

Well there IS a game where you break your legs by jumpimg, so we're halfway there

[@thelastkitchengun3478]

If only I knew how to make romhacks

[@thelastkitchengun3478]

@Donovan Starks that is not sonic breaking his legs that is sonic losing control

[@miimiiandco]

Mario and Sonic at the Paralympic Games

[@asmodeus58XX]

I have a feeling wheelchaired Sonic could still somehow pass loop-de-loops, making more acts passable.

[@88shrek]

7:12 that wall is gone or at least partially removed in the mobile port, which makes you think that even christian whitehead hated this level, there is even an achievement that encourages you to use the secret path in marble garden 3

[@keaton5101]

4:32 this entire 10 second sequence, perfectly uncommentated, is extremely, extremely good

[@davidthecommenter]

the "FUCK" that covers half the screen was the perfect cherry on top

[@jimbobsclayworld2439]

Closest shave ever

[@rcblazer]

When the biggest obstacle to beating Sonic the Hedgehog is Sonic himself sabotaging the run.

[@pierresun3394]

I cant stop laughing at the "Sonic is a fucker" part, like it just somehow, makes me laugh like crazy lol

[@softvoicedboyfriend4031]

Ikr

[@ThatNormalIsNotNormal]

Hahaha

[@stuarthough8440]

or me

[@Youhadabadday2021]

I mean, that segment was an absolutely glorious cacophony of bad posistioning and gameplay mechanics. Sonic just so happened to be hugging the wall leading to the ceiling, and thanks to the momentum gained from the fall, it allowed him to lock to said ceiling as if he was in a loop, creating a situation where he ended up uncontrollably running all the way back to the button. That singular line just seals how unfortunate that situation was in a hilarious manner.

[@MajoradeMayhem]

You know, the killer irony is it should be much easier for Tails to lift Sonic in water. In fact, entirely possible according to the laws of physics. As opposed to the totally impossible physics defying flying act he usually does.

[@Rukathesoldier]

I guess despite being better than Sonic, Tails still isn't a strong swimmer.

[@nthgth]

Good point, when you think about it his tails should be able to move him in water at least as well as in the air

[@kingdedede5570]

in real life hedgehogs can actually swim what did you expect lol

[@smd89xx]

Sonic is stuck in his balancing animation in Star Light because he is suffering from a glitch known as the "slope glitch". In this glitch, if you were to control Sonic again, would run in the last angle you landed on. So if you landed on a slope, he would run down it until he reaches the death pit.

[@dmas7749]

i've actually had that glitch happen to me once in Sonic 3 Hydrocity Zone? it's also pretty easy to do with debug mode iirc

[@jeremyabbott4537]

the first time I had it happen to me was in Ice Cap where I had sonic standing on an ice block and tails broke it. Pretty fun stuff

[@bottinator22]

it's also why Sonic went into the ground shortly after

[@borkedluck]

"Death Egg zone act 2 in Sonic & Knuckles is the first level where Sonic can run on the ceiling" Me, an intellectual: 24:24

[@CinnaSwirls]

But... Mushroom Hill has an easy setup for it. You just spin dash to the left. Heck, I think Sonic 3 has its fair share of chances if you insist on calling it a separate game. People really say it's Death Egg Zone? Why do people think that?

[@borkedluck]

@@CinnaSwirls I kinda made that up, because that was the first thing that came to my mind, because of all the gravity shifting. But the point that there's a small setup for ceiling running in spring yard zone in Sonic 1 still stands

[@CinnaSwirls]

@@borkedluck Maybe, it seems like Sonic 3 physics. I should try to test it out if I can play it again.

[@nthgth]

@@borkedluck so the quotes are really you quoting yourself lol

[@borkedluck]

@@nthgth yeah, but meanwhile I remembered that there is a certain area in Sonic CD (in collision chaos zone) where you can briefly run upside down

[@GameAlicornLuna]

Wow, Sonic! You are the fastest thing alive! Fast asleep, that is.

[@soulhoney1227]

Tails: sonic hurry up eggman is destroying the world Sonic: *becomes statue* Tails: SONIC Sonic: no

[@nthgth]

That happened at least once in AoSTH

[@helmetluigi]

24:21 omg this is my favourite part, sonic you bastard

[@TKHedgeHog]

24:20 Git You should Clip this and stick it in the "Random acts of Spite" Playlist.

[@mariashanahan7102]

I started laughing out loud when sonic fucking ran on the ceiling back to the switch

[@kattnip500]

Surprised that he somehow got slope glitch in starlight zone

[@monke8649]

I hate how KZbin thinks every thing sonic related is the sonic movie and i hate the sonic movie

[@BBHood217]

I'm not big into Sonic, but seeing that altered Sonic 1 ending made even me feel hyped.

[@LiroRaeriyo]

2:05 DID I JUST SEE EVERY RING GET COLLECTED!?

[@DONT_UWU_SIGN]

Yes you infact did

[@lukanaciousd9965]

Yeah, it was satisfying to see him get all of those rings at once Until he gets hit... lol

[@modestMismagius105]

0:55 the mobile versions were decompiled a while back and unofficially ported to pc

[@doublehelixgame]

you can also run an android emulator like bluestacks to play on pc and connect a controller

[@nd_4726]

It would still be impossible though. To make Tails fly, player one has to hold up. Also, two players aren't compatible.

[@modestMismagius105]

@@nd_4726 ah, didn't know that

[@Kappa4987]

At 4:32, one specific letter entered my mind: F. Edit: 24:19 and 29:15 too. Also at 39:56 that is called a slope glitch. Look it up for info because I'm too lazy to explain it.

[@franbernal6566]

Is no one going to talk about the unused Sprite of sonic being burned to a crisp for some reason being used in 18:02 ?

[@borkedluck]

And Tails became a glitchy mess in the same exact frame

[@nthgth]

To me it was Sonic getting scared shitless of that weird Sonic-bot running up to them out of nowhere

[@skeleton8817]

Also 19:41 and 34:38 XD

[@Leekodot15]

Ey look it's Sonic Robo Blast 2-- I-I mean, Sonic Classic Heroes!

[@friendthebarrel154]

Me seeing title: well obviously no Video: 47 minutes long Me: ...OK you have my attention

[@MintyTheCorgi]

Sonic doing the constant edge animation is probably due to you activating the ledge glitch by accident. The reason sonic went through the floor when he landed on the ramp is because the ledge glitch keeps Sonic's current state of the ledge he was last on, so he was at a 30 degree angle, so he kept going at a 30 degree angle through the floor, that is a side effect of the ledge glitch.

[@amandamakin1542]

List of levels in this challenge: 1:00 - Green Hill Zone Act 1 (Possible) 2:32 - Green Hill Zone Act 2 (Possible) 3:52 - Green Hill Zone Act 3 (Possible) 6:33 - Marble Zone Act 1 (Impossible) 10:13 - Marble Zone Act 2 (Impossible) 11:08 - Marble Zone Act 3 (Possible) 16:40 - Spring Yard Zone Act 1 (Possible) 19:37 - Spring Yard Zone Act 2 (Possible) 21:32 - Spring Yard Zone Act 3 (Possible) 26:08 - Labyrinth Zone Act 1 (Impossible) 30:10 - Labyrinth Zone Act 2 (Impossible) 32:06 - Labyrinth Zone Act 3 (Impossible) 33:02 - Starlight Zone Act 1 (Possible) 34:34 - Starlight Zone Act 2 (Possible) 36:54 - Starlight Zone Act 3 (Possible) 41:02 - Scrap Brain Zone Act 1 (Possible) 43:21 - Scrap Brain Zone Act 2 (Impossible) 44:32 - Scrap Brain Act 3/Labyrinth Zone Act 4 (Impossible) 45:52 - Final Zone (Possible)

[@epicredhot5675]

The mobile remakes do have the elemental shields, but the only way to play with them added is to use the hidden level select and use the newly added option to toggle them on.

[@nuggetpotato5471]

The bad part is that level select is only in no save mode... *FRICKIN' NO SAVE MODE!*

[@nuggetpotato5471]

@Protector_Name really?! How do you do that?

[@MajoradeMayhem]

39:02 it was at this point, Sonic's pain medication wore off

[@clintonbehrends4659]

27:19 well according to dantes inferno a layer of hell is literally a giant freezing ocean that sinners beat each other in

[@TeamBlueToad]

Sonic wins by doing absolutely nothing

[@grandpalarryreadmyaboutpag7045]

True lol

[@CSS-CST_Z]

Do you watch M80 Marc because that sentence you just said was and one of his video titles

[@garbagelord4374]

It was probably more of a reference to the whole “Luigi wins by doing absolutely nothing” trend, but whatever.

[@IvanovIvanAKrutoi]

20:14 Insert "PINGAS!" bumper sounds here.

[@TKHedgeHog]

All that's left is Sonic 2 now, but that sounds like a Pain.

[@elisian0hplays47]

Well, without Sonic Classic Heroes or with the mobile version of Sonic 2 (which btw, is avaliable for pc) it would be impossible! Tails can't fly at the Genesis version of Sonic 2

[@TKHedgeHog]

@@elisian0hplays47 I know, my entire childhood was sonic mega collection on gamecube.

[@ym2612girl]

@@elisian0hplays47 Even if Mobile Sonic 2 were used, it'd be impossible too, since you have to hold up then press jump to get into Tails' arms!

[@smd89xx]

@@TKHedgeHog on the _what?_

[@TKHedgeHog]

@@smd89xx The Nintendo GameCube, Silly

[@TheDullStar]

24:22 *Its running time!* -sonic

[@Zieldak]

39:29 - Sonic lagged the game when going too fast and switched to random animations, Tails morphed into ncioS, the music was glitching, some SFX were muting channels... I'm surprised the game never crashed even though some important RAM addresses might have been hit by these bugs.

[@DONT_UWU_SIGN]

18:06 that sonic sprite reminds me of the one that went unused

[@Selicre]

It did go unused! This is a glitch that happens for some reason in vanilla S3K when you fly sonic into a horizontal spring. I think for some reason the game tries to DMA way too much data and it can end up overflowing into other parts of VRAM, but in this case the glitch just displays random frames of sonic's animation routine. I did want to look more into this eventually..

[@DONT_UWU_SIGN]

@@Selicre i think that makes sense

[@Persac7]

Looks like sonic cd run

[@MonochromeWench]

Sonic running on the ceiling in spring yard: I'll run if i want to and break physics if i need to slope glitch in starlight probably would have killed sonic in a normal playthrough

[@Hunter_K_]

He Be Like In Marble Zone 1 ‘We Are Actually Gonna Do It!’ ‘Then Goes To The Last Hurdle’ You Gotta Be Kidding Me Another Impossible One!?’

[@masonhhoffman]

I find it interesting that you were able to cycle to an unused Sonic sprite during Spring Yard and Starlight, I've literally never seen that happen

[@ls190v2]

The grayscale death sprite? The one that would have probably been used for lava death?

[@theferydra8753]

Boy do 2nd Zones really hate this challenge, uh?

[@nicocchi]

whois: "I don't play games on mobile" Bluestacks: "am I a joke to you?"

[@tatertot64]

Recently found your channel and been catching up with the Boss Analysis vids. Idk why, but they give me old game-tips vibes!

[@philRacoindie]

that certainly isnt a coincidence, this guy's been doing videos for more than a decade

[@tatertot64]

@@philRacoindie True! Reminds me of when KZbin was relatively low on the bullshit scale.

[@philRacoindie]

@@tatertot64 indeed

[@Shiyoken]

4:36 LOL Oh man...

[@Nimta]

39:01 You definitely triggered the Slope Glitch state sometime here. This should usually trigger whenever Sonic (or any other playable character) stands on a sprite based object as it's destroyed, though there have been less well understood causes as well. When a character is in this state, they will always walk at the angle of the last slope they touched, resetting whenever they're no longer "grounded" and picking a new slope angle when landing. It only resets upon death or full act transition, or when landing on top of another sprite-based object. If you ever find ways to trigger it consistantly, it could potentially save you a couple levels blocked by loops, though probably not routes blocked by objects.

[@Shiyoken]

Some fecking skills again in this video and also some funny shit because of 'Sanic'.

[@BlucklesTheGlitchidna]

0:52 There's Sonic 1 Decompilation, which let's you play the mobile port on PC. Even though its buggy, but still playable.

[@DamnZtar]

Problem is, two players aren't compatible in the decomp/mobile version. He would have to get Sonic to jump and press up to have Tails carry Sonic.

[@BlucklesTheGlitchidna]

@@DamnZtar No, you can do it with one player. There is a Sonic and Tails mode, and I can use Tails to carry Sonic with one player.

[@DamnZtar]

@@BlucklesTheGlitchidna how?

[@t-bird6853]

**insert comment about how far we've gone from the Tails abuse days**

[@tacomanmctaco450]

I think sonic is doing his on edge animation constantly because tails is carrying him around so much hes not used to standing anymore

[@ritaandrunt5767]

Very interesting this must have been quite the challenge to pull off also I cant wait to see how you manage to play sonic two like this

[@wouldyouskibidi]

Me using the spindash in the mobile port: hold my beer

[@leventemolnar2569]

19:42 (Pause to see the unused death sprite) Edit: 34:52 holy crap, tails became a glichy mess of sonic.

[@prayingkabutops1392]

The secret path in the wall are in all acts of marble zone. Though they all share the same problem.

[@epicredhot5675]

I don't believe the other two acts have them in the original release, I'm fairly certain they were only added in the Christian Whitehead remakes.

[@prayingkabutops1392]

@@epicredhot5675 I was talking about sonic classic heroes.

[@alif-1223]

@@epicredhot5675 if you look at the website called zone 0 the go to sonic 1 downloads, you can see the layouts had those secret passageway

[@masterblaster38]

24:23 Ok i wasn't expecting that i hate when things like that happen.

[@CinnaSwirls]

Starlight Zone: Ah, a self imposed challenge huh? Well, I'm gonna go a bit harder on you this time around, but I do like you so of course I'm not gonna be the pushover Green Hill must have been. Tough, but fair, and still fun, I aim to be the best Zone in the game no matter how you choose to play. I hope you're not too frustrated though. Take care of yourself. Labyrinth Zone: How DARE you waste MY time on your HYPOTHETICAL CHALLENGE GARBAGE! You get NOTHING! In fact, ACT 3, you don't get to move ONE DAMN PIXEL. You make me SICK! LEAVE MY SIGHT, INSECT!

[@fleetway1262]

5:39 ye player what kind of caretaker are you? XD

[@Talamino]

Do you think this sort of challenge could work for knuckles chaotix? Only throwing the buddy to get around

[@asmodeus58XX]

24:20 I can almost hear Tails yelling "Oh for crying out loud, Sonic!" Or was it you, Git?

[@elluciano5808]

6:44 The Arcade version of Sonic 1 with that zone completely absent:

[@francescobiundo8634]

33:46 tails though sonic was cold after staying in water so he warmed him up

[@cleitonbr91]

I will wait the mania one.

[@nuggetpotato5471]

Marble zone act 1 IS possible. Only on mobile tho

[@delta3244]

10:05 could you do a well-timed right-upwards flight starting under the oscillating block as it rises to get enough speed? Or is there something which makes that not work?

[@rosheafan]

I had the same thought.

[@samurai2871]

Tails does all the work. Also tails: sonic is the real hero

[@x-mighty7602]

You can get past Marble zone act 1 by flying over the wall if you start at the higher point in the left.

[@davidthecommenter]

sonic classic heroes edited the level design so the walls would go to the top of the stage, so that gameplay wise is out of the question.

[@daz1200]

"sonic, you truly are a tick on the life blood of society" that killed me lol

[@turrrvvy8116]

Sonic really robbing tails from a whole different game.

[@jimbobsclayworld2439]

For being just a glitch, 18:02 has a lot of attention to detail; 1. sonic is spun 360° 2. He realised he is at risk of injury, with a 4th wall breaking “oh s##t” expression 3. Sonic then crashes into the enemy chest-first 4. The entire thing is slowen down so we can see what actually happens, the true perspective has all of this happen nearly instantly

[@stuarthough8440]

the starlight zone is my favourite music in this game scrap brain was my second

[@lolcode_lua]

Tainted forgotten gameplay

[@TheGerkuman]

Moving, at the speed of sound. Sonic the tick on the lifeblood of society!

[@supreme-ss777]

34:49 Tails flies so fast that he starts to feel nauseous and proceeds to lose his skin and is left to nothing but organs and Sonic falls because he can't be held up by organs

[@MsTatakai]

Btw... at 39:50 you glitched on a slope... i don't know why that happened but maybe its how you could clear a loop-a-loop ?

[@gsdarkus5014]

F for your efforts and hopes on Scrap Brain Zone 2

[@tntmoxy9697]

18:00 HhahJahHahhAa what the heck was that??? XD

[@Keisezrgs]

10:13 I did some testing, and you can beat it as Super Sonic and Super Tails due to Tail's speed being increased.

[@Keisezrgs]

However Act 2 cannot be done, even if you are Super Because the switch is off screen and Tails can't go off screen and press it, and if you go next to the right side with flight space and press the switch with Tails you can't get sonic through because the switch will block Sonic and since he can't jump, he can't get passed. Edit: You can't even beat it with cheating, First, I tried to get the 2nd controller to control Knuckles Second, had Knuckles jump on the switch Third, I attempted to fly under to no avail even with Super and Hyper also since 2P is currently Knuckles, you can't move Tails unless you are Tails, and the CPU is Sonic, and the A.I always jumps when you jump, so Sonic moves anyway.

[@zallypally]

Sonic 1 but Sonics afk:

[@cristiancortes3768]

0:40 How sad, the video ends in less than 1 minute hahaha.

[@masterreece1098]

Man you are talented please could you do sonic mania next

[@skuid2009]

I'm so happy I found this channel again.

[@HopkinsTheMovie]

Define irony - gameplay of the Green Hill Zone here resembling the very first time I played Sonic 1.

[@Apalapan97]

18:00 how the hell did you trigger an unused sprite?

[@Garbo_trashcan]

probably, because this is a romhack, the game didn't know how to react when Sonic bounced off the spring while being grabbed by Tails, which confused the game in which sprite he was supposed to use. At least I think, I'm not a game developer.

[@Apalapan97]

@@Garbo_trashcan it was more of a rethorical question, but thank you, it's sorta like that i guess

[@GarryDumblowski]

39:01 I think this effect is caused by the "Zero gravity" glitch, which is named because if you walk off of a sheer precipice with the glitch active, Sonic will keep floating in the air at the same height as the ledge he was just standing on. It's kind of a result of Sonic being unable to change the "slope" he's standing at, which is what causes the effect at 39:57 where he lands on a slope and starts walking backwards into the floor, even though the curved slope should have set his angle back to the horizontal. He stops doing it at 40:20 because he lands on one of the see-saws, which are an object rather than a piece of the pure level geometry. The zero-gravity glitch only applies to level geometry, but if sonic ever stands on an object (a spring, an item box, etc) the glitch is canceled, and he goes back to normal. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pmeqh6ynlLqVY8U Here's a video of this glitch used to mess up the background in Flying Battery Zone. I will admit, I'm not entirely sure this is the reason, as I feel like taking damage should nullify the effect.

[@TimArcHik]

7:54 Correction: in real 2013 version on mobile devices Tails can't push blocks, so the challenge would end right there, for that level at least

[@pibesworld8705]

39:57 The app "sonic.exe" has stopped working do you want to close it ? tails:no

[@drrobotnik5265]

If im not mistaken cant you get tails in S1 on real hardware with a copy of sonic 2?

[@robertanderson9447]

Using Sonic 2 on S&K gets you Knuckles in that game, but you can't access Sonic 1. Using the actual Sonic 1 just boots up Blue Sphere.

[@thenonepicgamer]

18:03 we finally get to see the black and white sprite for sonic in game (:

[@imfullofsandwichesandimcom2301]

Sonic: ok me afk 5 minutes Tails: it's time to get that doggy

[@x-mighty7602]

I hate Spring Yard zone. The visuals are dull. Marble Zone: Good Visuals, Terrible Level Design Spring Yard Zone: Terrible Visuals, Good Level Design

[@egfelixdcg]

I'm enjoying these Tails carrying Sonic challenges a lot. I hope there be some hack of Sonic Cd with Tails able to carry Sonic so the fun can be extended after Sonic 2. I know there are codes to play as Sonic and Tails in the Gameboy Advance games, but I don't remember if Tails is able to carry him in those

[@alexc2194]

Was that your biggest font size yet?

[@amandamakin1542]

34:48 - You BROKE Tails! Tails Abuse! 😂 (And Tails broke Sonic at 39:56 in retaliation)

[@Neonlight3934]

It's a shame you can't turn off tails flying noise. Also in the movile version the walls in Marble Zone have a hole and they aren't low cealings, so may be beatable in that version.

[@michaelcropper1616]

In Marble Zone Act 2 and 3, there are glitches speedrunners use to skip each act, couldn't Tails have done that, or does that not work in this version?

[@herrice3227]

So what I've gathered from this is you'd hate living in a bungalow =P

[@LaelGames7913]

You are a legend

[@ErikPAPATIE]

Ok im far away but spring go back iself and after the FUCK im lauging of this at 4:35

[@Time_has_come_to_the_end.]

I never liked the labyrinth zone and scrap brain act 3. And after this video I don't like them even more.

[@CSS-CST_Z]

Do this with sonic 2 pls