Can You Become A Chinese Citizen?

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One of the most asked questions on my channel. Why am I not a citizen of China yet? Why do I not have a Chinese green card? Why Do I have to get a new visa every year?
Foreign investors can apply for Permanent Residence if they have direct investment in PRC for three years in a row and have a sound taxation record and meet any of the following terms and conditions:
1. having made investment of over USD 500,000 in industries of encouraged type as specified in the Catalogue of Industries of Foreign Investment released by the State;
2. having made total investment of over USD 500,000 in counties in the western part of the country or in counties which are major targets of poverty relief work undertaken by the State;
3. having total investment of over USD 1 million in the central part of the country;
4. having total investment of over USD 2 million in PRC.
Requirements:
1. Completed Application Form of Aliens for Permanent Residence in PRC;
2. Four recent 2-inch color photos (full face without hat) against blue background;
3. Valid foreign passports or identification capable of substituting passports;
4. Certificate of health issued by Entry-Exit Inspection and Quarantine Bureau appointed by the Chinese government or issued by foreign medical agencies accredited by Chinese embassies or consulate offices (the Health Certificate is valid for 6 months since it is issued);
5. Proof of no criminal record abroad recognized by Chinese embassies or consulate offices.
6. Certificates of approval of foreign funded enterprises, certificate of registration, proof of combined annual inspection, report of assets valuation and proof of personal tax payment. In case of foreign funded enterprises of encouraged type, letter of confirmation of the foreign invested projects which the State encourages should also be provided.
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[@jong-unkim238]

美国，欧洲大半夜有那么多人敢在路上走？我们只招收人才，守法的精英进中国，不需要白左，宗教狂热徒，和垃圾。 we have 9 years free education for children. pls don't mislead the public 中国的医疗体系已经不错，美国看个病死贵。

[@thehillbillygamer2183]

You can be born an American something in people's blood Real Americans were born here American citizens American citizen but they're not a real American

[@chengqu6263]

Even Chinese people struggle to get certain city's citizenship, which is '户口', not to mention the foreigners lol.

[@jxmai7687]

totally agree!

[@quickdudley]

One of my Chinese friends had to change her name when she got the Shenzhen hukou. It's because the last word in her name is 媛, but the hukou officer wrote it as 嫒. When she checked to see how to get a correction: she decided it's too expensive, so just used the wrong name.

[@kubrasafi738]

Cheng Qu how can an Asian get chines citizenship?

[@viscountj7037]

Kubra Safi you got Muslim citizenship?

[@kubrasafi738]

I just want live China ...I don’t want any political right...you know...I have problem in Afghanistan...in my country all the time people are killing by Taliban

[@leecris4311]

you are totally wrong. there are public health care, free public education and pension system in China. Strangely you don't this.

[@fsdffdsf37]

the video was misleading. you dont get public healthcare in america, nor do you get pensions by being a citizen. most pensions are tied to your job, not by virtue of being a citizen, and if you're a bum on the street, who's never worked, you get no pensions. if you work at kmart, or fast food restraunts then you dont get healthcare. most americans have private healthcare, and its not by virtue of being a citizen either, rather it's reserved for those with good jobs. most americans i know never had healthcare, or a pension, and im talking about real americans working at mcdonalds. arguably, i heard that kadafi's Iibya had better healthcare, and pensions

[@rayva1]

That's where you're the one who's mislead amiga. Obviously, you don't watch nor read the US news do you? Perhaps you were not even aware of what Obamacare is or was do you?

[@Hamidmahdi]

that would have been true if it was still 2014. Since 2015 citizens living in the States had to switch over to Obamacare, which still needs some improvements, but if nothing else, it keeps hospitals from turning away patients. The system we had in place before was private insurance provided by your employer and if you weren't a full-time employee you just didn't get it, which means hospitals could and WOULD turn you away because they knew you wouldn't be able to pay them. Both systems are flawed, but Obamacare is a step in the right direction so that everyone has some form of healthcare in case of emergencies. The downside to nationwide healthcare is that sometimes you can be put on a long waiting list (as has been the case Canada and a few other countries) and you may not get treated in time. So many people would literally come to the States to get treatments for their ailments when the waiting lists in their own countries was too long.

[@jwhippet8313]

@@fsdffdsf37 , 91.2 percent of Americans have health insurance, either through their job or govt programs. You could have just googled, "What percentage of Americans have health insurance." I work in social services. Any American living below the poverty line qualifies for food assistance, Medicade, likely Section 8 assistance for rent, and if there are young children at home WIC food assistance, cash assistance, and utility assistance. It is illegal for utility companies to cut service to homes with children and illegal for a hospital not to provide treatment in an emergency. Mental health facilities must keep any patient who is a threat to himself or others. Education is free until 12th grade and the govt. provides student loans to anyone accepted into University. Any child can be surrendered to the state at which point the state will provide all their needs including higher education until age 21. The parents retain visitation rights and the right to reclaim the child if they are capable of caring for it. Every physically and mentally capable American can join the military in the branch of his choice, where he will be given food, clothing, shelter, a child and family stipend, family healthcare, one month vacation a year, job training, and retirement with pension after 20 years. After 2 yrs of service he qualifies for the Montgomery GI Bill to pay for college. If he completes a 4 yr. degree, he can rejoin as an officer when his original term of enlistment is up.

[@ssuuppeerrbbooyy]

​@@rayva1 You realize that Obamacare forces you to buy a private healthcare insurance? In my country (EU) we have public healthcare which is funded through wage contributions. Private health insurance is putting money to greedy guy who then tells you how much you dont need treatment and how X Y and Z disqualifies coverage for a treatment, and stands over your bed with a stopwatch waiting to kick you out of a hospital bed not a second too late.

[@sidecarcn]

There are certain circumstances where you can become a Chinese citizen. When I was at China Radio InternationalI we had 3 staff members that became Chinese citizens. Stuart Parkinson who was originally from the UK joined the English Service of CRI in 198 when it still went by the name Radio Beijing. When he retired in 2007 he was offered citizenship. Victor Vimukthi who is from Sri Lanka was in our Sinhalese Service became a citizen after 30 years. Marie Dominque from France who worked in our French Service became a Chinese citizen after she retired in 2004 after being in the French Service since 1983. There was also another woman who lived in my building. Betty (forgot her family name), but she had moved to China in 1947 and in 1996 she was made a Chinese citizen. In 2000 I was asked by the English Service of China Radio International to create a Transcription Service. Something that CRI never had. I agreed to one year and Radio Netherlands who I was with in Hilversum continued my employment so when my contract at CRI ended I would just go back to them. The 1 year turned into 8 years, which after the 8 years I went right back to Radio Netherlands. After my first year at CRI I asked to stay one more year. After I completed my second year and was in the process of moving back to the Netherlands CRI offered to get me permanent residence if I agreed to stay for a few more years, which they did after I said yes. At the beginning of 2008 I left as Radio Netherlands wanted me to relocate to Taiwan where I have been since then. So yes in certain circumstances you can become a citizen and permanent resident.

[@Folsomdsf2]

Can You Become A Chinese Citizen? No Saved you guys 8 minutes.

[@darrishawks6033]

You can though lol

[@mamark4039]

why so serioussssssss sonnnnnnnnnnnn

[@Sheng8807]

Dio Brando yyy

[@onionrangerduck7024]

@Peter R basically, become a genius and contribute to China.

[@user-vv7ir1pl4j]

@@darrishawks6033 so almost no?

[@DanielButlergungfu1967]

lol. "Because, you walk too fast." She so awesome.

[@mizzypoo4827]

That's what happens when he gets the wife to be the non paid hire help. they talk back! lol

[@DanielButlergungfu1967]

mizzypoo Non paid? She benefits just as much as he does from the videos.

[@mizzypoo4827]

+Daniel Lee Butler Have checked how much they get from KZbin? Don't they have to have subscribers in the Millions. ie.. Casey Neistat.?I doubt very much many KZbinrs gets paid that much.

[@DanielButlergungfu1967]

mizzypoo True they don't make all that much. But it is based on views not like or subs. So the more views they get them more they make. And since they are paid in USD I am sure it does well to supplement their income..

[@Chop1049]

Loved the "joke" at the end about betting a guy in NYC that you're Chinese. Brilliant! Great video too, btw, one of the best ones. Great info. Cheers mate!

[@laowhy86]

Thanks man!

[@bobking7454]

I'm Chinese born in China. This video is misleading: most of the Chinese cities have pretty good public welfare, the author doesn't have proper welfare protection (probably he don't have PR) doesn't mean ordinary Chinese citizen don't have, I had been working in Beijing for about a decade, my welfare include free medicare (the maximum amount for self-payment of medicare is RMB 1800 per year, you just need to pay 10% of the amount that above RMB 1800, most companies have another complement commercial medicare (free for you), the remaining 10% and RMB 1800 self-payment will all be covered, so that you don't need to pay anything for medicare, like me), all of your medicare insurance fees that you paid will go to an account that specifically set up for you, you can withdraw it whenever you want; Another welfare is called "housing public accumulation fund", the intention is that if you pay 12% of your salary, the company you served should pay the same amount to the account that set up to you, you can use this money to buy a house and enjoy a discount interest rate when you have mortgage, if you want to quit that company, you can withdraw that amount of money, usually in Beijing, people don't permit to withdraw unless you quit current jobs, so that, in many times, the account for "housing public accumulation fund" will have huge amount of money after you pay that many years; Another welfare is retirement fund, same as western pension system, the difference is that you just need to pay the retirement insurance fee for about 15 years in China, then you can stop pay for that, and you get pensions from government after your age surpassing 60 for man and 55 for woman (retirement age will change to 65 for man and 60 for woman before 2020). All in all, the welfare system is different from city to city in China, the welfare in cities is better than in rural areas in general. The author is just for catching peopel's eyes when he states that "there is no welfare in China", actually, Chinese health care system is better than US - the Obamacare.

[@lkrnpk]

But Winston said it's pretty safe in China... now you say that there's a good amount of public warfare there :D

[@bobking7454]

lkrnpk​ Very good public welfare in big city and safest place among the world. Can't they have both advantages?

[@poondawg3244]

Bob King, in Sweden we don't have public warfare. It sucks.

[@lkrnpk]

***** well soon the ''inga pengar'' gypsies of metro and Arabs will make sure that Sweden have good public warfare

[@poondawg3244]

lkrnpk , I'm looking forward to it! Modern warfare for the people!

[@kandykookieunicorn2308]

Since I'm black, it'll probably be hard to become a Chinese citizens

[@user-go1zn3wd4m]

It's not about skin color. It is difficult for anyone to have Chinese nationality. As far as I know, the Chinese do not discriminate against blacks.

[@harryknoll]

Love your videos! Your videos are encouraging me on my decision to move to China. I want to write so much but at the loss of sounding like a complete fan-boy I will just say GREAT WORK! Cheers!

[@laowhy86]

Thanks so much man! I really appreciate it! Feel free to write whatever you like :)

[@gravics]

This was fascinating. Very helpful. I was curious who was filming you then I heard Vivi's voice. You two are great. I know you put a lot of work and effort on your video presentations and it shows. Your public speaking skills are top notch.

[@laowhy86]

I really appreciate that! Thanks so much!

[@hsun85]

There are pensions and healthcare coverage, and in fact they are quite good, but only if you have worked for the State or State owned enterprises.

[@paulohuang4665]

You really need to move up to a bigger city in China. Huizhou is totally blocking your view of China.

[@paulohuang4665]

Billy Miner I am just a by-stander. I gave my impression coming from watching this video. I gave a thumb-up. That's all.

[@simongermany5011]

Thanks for this interesting piece of information. I totally agree with what you have said. For those of you who want to learn even more, this week's edition of The Economist published an article regarding Chinese identity (“Who is Chinese? The Upper Han“, published in the Briefing section, available online). Contrary to your statement, the information is given that there are 1.448 naturalised citizens. However, that has no influence on the main conclusion.

[@wisdomleader85]

Bro, your videos are getting more and more professional. Your journalist talent is showing. Keep it up.

[@mystica-subs]

Diggin the Vaporwave intro dude, it's quite an underappreciated artform. (while I realize you are fluent in sarcasm as evidenced in your videos, this comment is entirely non-sarcastic, as I truly do love vaporwave!)

[@TheMotorick]

That was an eye opener. Thanks.

[@scottprovens2247]

Nice video Lao. You seem very knowledge about Asia. The Chinese passports do require a lot of Visas when visiting other countries.

[@fenlanren1]

I personally know 2 people who have Chinese green card, one is professor in one of the best universities in China and one is CEO in a foreign company in China. So it is not impossible. The professor had only lived 2 years in China and the CEO like 13 years before getting green card

[@nathankoon7749]

slight difference being a phd and a joe blow youtuber

[@evilfalseprophet]

you won't apply for citizenship for benefits, you apply because you feel home in and belong to the country. if you just do it to gain an advantage, said country has every right to decline!

[@rongfeiwu3075]

Would that apply to overseas Chinese who seek foreign passports?

[@Loterrach]

@@rongfeiwu3075 Yes and no.

[@MD-ve9eh]

Great video man!

[@KpopLabPro]

I'm enjoy watching your channel and it all started with that crazy bike race in traffic i came across while looking for something other to watch than to wait for Casey Neistat late upload, anyway man you took me for a trip!

[@laowhy86]

Thanks so much man! Hope to keep you on as a subscriber for a long time!

[@onthe9s857]

man you videos and serpentZa are my favourites.. keep up the good work man

[@laowhy86]

Thanks man!

[@rashidmahmoo]

Thanks for such kind of great information

[@imhellag]

you got a new shirt! also how do you tell your barber to cut your hair? looks fresh

[@laowhy86]

I showed him a picture of my logo

[@yiralaya]

Beautiful drone shot and excellent video quality all the way ☯

[@laowhy86]

Thanks!

[@smoke2164]

Outstanding job. Good information to have.

[@charllieqian]

just out of curiosity, what VPN do you use to access KZbin in China? or any other way?

[@ErLong1800]

So do you have to leave the country every year or do you apply your new visa in China?

[@brycem1207]

Unless you’re Macanese ethnic group from Macau, or Hong Kong south Asian, naturalising is near to impossible. Of course, the nationality law is interpreted differently under the Joint Declarations.

[@angelosor6912]

Very interesting topic. Nicely done! You don't need citizenship C-Milk. You already are a chinese. I like how you give shit to Vivi at the end for holding the camera! lol

[@michaelfelix9492]

welcome to China and hope you have a nice day in China, greeting from Guangzhou 广州，Matthew ：）

[@beauhall3170]

Very informative as always

[@luismartinez-ue4fv]

Thanks for the video very clarified #your wife does a very good job with the camera.

[@Ryan40272]

Im curious what the intro song is since i can't get Shazam to pick it up

[@ggarzagarcia]

My best friend from Wenzhou (she's like my sister), she gave up her Chinese citizenship and became a Swedish citizen. She doesn't regret it. I also knew a girl from Hebei province and gave up her citizenship to become an Australian citizen. Doesn't regret it. But it's the choice of every person. Loved your video, man. And thanks for videoing, Vivi! You're not shaky.

[@terryz7406]

american passport is over glorified(still much more valuable than the Chinese ones i have to admit) . Australia and many countries in Europe have far better social benefit and much lower tax rate compared to America

[@_yamcha]

Gerardo Garza García most (if not all) chinese would give up their chinese citizenship for any western countries citizenship in a heartbeat.

[@terryz7406]

Liberals be like: How dare you support a sexiest, racist,ignorant, wall building moron! America runs on Wall Street elites and illegal immigrants not your hard working blue collar workers you uneducated!

[@gilly66369]

see here in the United States 50% of our taxes go to the military industrial complex. so therefore there's no Universal Health Care. like Canada or Australia or most countries for that matter. say what you will about China but you think Winston or c-milk would still be living there if the bad outweight the good.

[@EnkhbatKhurts]

Gerardo Garza García Noone wants to be chinese. not even Snowden not even war refugees.

[@user-oi3zi8rr9x]

The only way to become a Chinese national is to join the nationality of Hong Kong, Macau and Taiwan first

[@rosezhao5202]

Setting a high and strict level of green card can imply unwillingness of the government to boost population from foreigners to a certain extent. It may look less valuable to be Chinese from a perspective of foreigners, and you do enjoy more benefits than Chinese citizens regarding the same job position. However, please keep in mind that arbitrage of foreigner's benefits has been restricted through these years. You also disclosed this change of work visa that will implement class A, B and C on foreigners very soon. In short, many foreigners in China do not show they are better than Chinese except English language, and oversea Chinese students can be more competitive than foreigners to get job opportunities after improving English.

[@shaunharn1998]

They should allow full blooded overseas Chinese like myself to move back to China

[@nopass6247]

The only thing I disagree with is about being paid less for being a Chinese citizen. They pay more because you're a foreigner, and that's not a question of your passport - it's what you look like and what you sound like. You think if a born and raised American applies for a job with the added bonus that he doesn't have any visa issues, they're going to offer him a lower salary? If anything they'll offer more because they'll see him as stable and easy to pick up. Plus if he violates terms of the contracts, they can actually do something about it - whereas if he's a foreigner he can just go back home and tell them to fuck off. This happens in Hong Kong a lot where permanent residency is very easy to obtain, and companies see hiring those with it as a major bonus.

[@infoworld7706]

no, health care? are you kidding me? Everyone just needs to pay about USD30-50 per year, the insurance will cover about 60-80% of the total medical fee here in Guangdong no matter you have a job or not. For people whose company buy the insurance for them, the insurance will cover even more. Other places in China should have the similar policy. My father doesn't have a job and broke his arm two months ago. Because he has paid the health insurance (like 30 USD per year), out of the 5000rmb hospital fee, we just paid 2000rmb. We went to the best hospital in our city, if we go to other hospitals, the insurance will cover up to 80%. The migrant workers might not have health insurance while they are in other provinces.

[@chrismilallos7946]

Hey, Umm... I'm Filipino-Chinese. I got my Chinese side by my great grandma. So do am I chinese in China's eyes? Or am I a foreigner?

[@stevenhammond3409]

I was in china thought I broke my ankle (fell down a mountain lol ) went to hospital payed maybe twenty or thirty can. dollars was in out hour and a half badly sprained not broken was better in two weeks , same ankle in Canada three hours later still waiting to see doctor

[@buckyyu9994]

The Chinese citizen does have certain kind of welfare. Some part of the video is misleading. (Meanwhile, China has only 55 minority groups) :)

[@markpix]

You got some things I don't even know as a citizen of PRC!

[@chrislee176]

One can only renounce his/her home citizenship to his/her home country; what he/she tells the Chinese government is irrelevant. In other words, it only matters if the Chinese government requires proof of renunciation of previous citizenships, and not merely a statement to them of such renunciation (which has no legal weight to the previous country, in most cases).

[@davidmachemer1015]

Wow, Vivi is becoming a professional camera person by now!

[@jasont6421]

WOw C-milk. I'm surprised how after so many years of living in China you still have so many misunderstandings about some of its basic facts and stuff. Won't really blame you as China really is changing fast, so much so that you need to actively keep updated with what's happening all the time. From my personal perspective, one of my relative did a heart surgery that would supposedly cost us around 100,000 RMB but in the end it just boiled down to around 15 to 20 percents of that. The government and the med system actually accounted for the other 80-85 percents. I don't think in US they have something that close. I have heard of too many friends here in US whose families have to resort to "GoFundMe" to get their medical bills covered

[@ZhangtheGreat]

I know you probably haven't met him, but I can tell you one person who definitely does want to become a Chinese citizen: former NBA All-Star (and now CBA permanent super-fixture) Stephon Marbury. He's said multiple times that he's found his place in China and seeks to one day officially become a PRC citizen.

[@Macanese]

well, a foreigner is able to apply for permanent Hong Kong or Macau resident and join Chinese nationality (holding Hong Kong or Macau SAR Passport). then they can be just like other hong kong or macau Chinese people, apply the Mainland Travel Permit for Hong Kong and Macao Residents, it looks like just an ID card.

[@joshsmit779]

Video quality is good, but the camera is kinda shakey. Perhaps a stabilizer would help?

[@mizzypoo4827]

Good idea. Tied his wife to a wooden pole, as she hold the camera.

[@XiaosChannel]

I wish we'd be more open to foreigners.

[@Elizaqchhl]

Xiao'sChannel No way. No matter we are poor or rich. China would only be Chinese China. We just need 55 minorities. And only when you speak Chinese and feel like Chinese. Then you are a Chinese.

[@hoonwaretien8363]

ge ou t

[@DaVincyi]

I am also from upstate, capital area. Welcome home if you are coming back this Xmas.

[@khurramkhan3552]

I have a Chinese green card and there is a retirement pension. I got green card within 4 months after I applied. I know so many ppl who got green card here. and a lot of respect and way less racism than west.

[@stonebreaker950]

we have pension system. but to get it you have to pay social insurance for 15 years. At the age of 60, you have your pension.

[@laowhy86]

Thanks for clarifying.

[@stonebreaker950]

my father gets 3800rmb per month. Of course, he had been paying social insurance for about 35 ys before he retired. The more you pay, and the longer you pay, the more pention you may get when you are retired.

[@Themmeee]

Maybe go out and meet more people. My grandma get 5000+ per month, 3-tier city. She was just a regular teacher before she retired. Again, it depends on the specific policies of the city.

[@wanyanaguda6229]

You have to give up your own nationality if you get Chinese citizenship, so don’t do that. Work visa or visitor visa is enough. If you hold a American passport or Canadian passport with Chinese 10-year visitor visa, you can stay in China for six months. After that, you can just go to Hong Kong for a while, then you can come back to China with another six months staying time.

[@TylerINFOCUS]

60 days for American not 6 months

[@frankdi4546]

Hi laowhy86, I have watched a lot of your videos, and really enjoy them, and enjoy seeing your life in China. But I noticed that in your recent videos (from 2016's), your mood changed and you might start to feel a little disappointed about your living in China. Can I ask about your future plans? Continue to live in China or come back to the US? Anyway, keep on and enjoy your life!

[@BogdanKokkonen]

@laowhy86 It's way easier to naturalise into a Chinese nationality in Hong Kong (thousands of successful applications per year) but without the Mainland hukou citizenship, so you cannot enjoy full social rights and benefits in China. But still you'll be given a Chinese HKSAR passport (158 visa-free countries up till now) and a permit to enter in and out of China way more easily, as you'll be counted as a Chinese national at the border. Moreover, for naturalisation in the Mainland generally, competent knowledge of Chinese is the foremost prerequisite, while in HK, passable Chinese is enough I've heard.

[@面堂終太郎]

I read an article on the WSJ that said only 941 people naturalized in the year 2000. (In comparison, close to 15,000 people naturalized in Japan that year. Do you know where official stats for PRC naturalization are published? (where the author got that 941 in Y2K figure)

[@面堂終太郎]

Thanks, but I'm perfectly capable of looking at Wikipedia myself. I was hoping for a more authorative source. Re your rant on Japan, a lot of debt is never good, but what a lot of overseas sources forget is that Japan's debt is unique in that it's almost entirely internal domestic debt. That's very different from other countries, and you can deal with domestic debt very differently from debt owed to other countries. As for PRC's true financial status... Nobody knows. Most sources believe that the majority of PRC's claims re it's balance and debt are completely fabricated and bogus. Thanks for the other info though!

[@面堂終太郎]

Aik Leong Lim Ah, I see what you mean now. In other words, the number of people who naturalize every year is even LOWER than that. Thanks.

[@kareemtaleb689]

I'm Lebanese, my wife and 2 kids are Chinese ! I still need to apply for a q visa that is valid for 6 month every time I wanna visit the country. I hope that will change

[@kjeremiahamoss]

Your kids is chinese? Thats mean that two kids is not your children 🤔

[@thebrokenconcept4526]

Did you get your Chinese PR yet?

[@meleney5406]

@@kjeremiahamoss Obviously this is wrong, no matter the child's father or mother is Chinese, the child must have Chinese nationality, this is the law of China.

[@kjeremiahamoss]

@@meleney5406 unless you are their step father and non chinese. Well yes you can say they are chinese and your step children.

[@iamerror1699]

Undesirables are not Chinese and never will be!

[@Aaronschinaguide]

Very informative. The average Joe can't really get Chinese citizenship, you need to be a high talent or you need a lot of money.

[@JSharap]

But first you need to be born racially Chinese or else your chances are almost nil. Actually you have better chance to get Japanese passport than PRC.

[@Jefff72]

Wouldn't it be hard for a Japanese citizen to live in China? PRC government sure likes to stir up a lot of anti-Japanese hatred.

[@JSharap]

From what I read over here in Asia, seems like Japanese business are affected whenever this kind of 'problems' crop up. Have not heard of Japanese living in China having issues with locals. Perhaps someone from PRC can comment? Kinda like Vietnamese locals doing the same thing to Chinese businesses located in Vietnam when 'issues' with islands, fishing etc crop up as reported in local papers.

[@aaf5721]

Aaron Sawich who would want it ? lol !!

[@saito4991]

Aaron Sawich because China has enough of its own trash. It needs to improve its tech so it needs brains. That's why for the average Joe it's hard. They don't need Joe's. They need twosteins

[@alexmo7798]

Well, in theory the advantage of a Chinese nationality would be that you can go to Tibet freely.

[@spellerlittlewing]

Thanks great video

[@kchung9209]

just wondering can u get dual citizenship from the US and China???

[@Laurilue13]

Just bought the Vimeo film. I can't wait to watch it!

[@tamagoboukensha4199]

I'm with you on this. Why would I want to become a citizen with an inferior passport, having to shell out tons of money for visas and etc. What's the point of being a citizen of country where it's citizens will NEVER recognize you as one of their own. It's the same for Japan, and most Asian countries. Maybe it's a different case for citizens for countries other than America, but I'd rather keep my American citizenship and ALL of its benefits. When I was rather obsessed with Japan, I was disheartened when I found out that even if you become "Japanese", you'll never be Japanese anyways. In Asia, or in countries that are rather homogeneous, there's no point. If you're a different color other than what the population is, you'll be what I call the forever-foreigner. I've made my peace with it at this point, and I'm tired of being sad about it. I'd rather just relish in my so-called white privilege and foreigner privilege. I by no means think I superior to any other race or ethnicity, but if you want put me or other white foreigners on a pedestal, and you're not willing to recognize me as one you, why bother putting effort into changing that mindset. After all, as Matthew said, it's not only a national identity, but a ethnic or racial identity as well. However, being a citizen in Taiwan or Japan is far superior to China, where apparently you get nothing for being a citizen. I would say at least you get the right to vote, but this China, so that means nothing as well. Rant over. Another great video Matthew! Vivi did well filming as well. When is she going to put more videos out on her channel?

[@laowhy86]

Thanks for the in depth comment. I appreciate it. Vivi has been getting attacked by Chinese netizens and she got a lot of threats so she is laying low at the moment.

[@terryz7406]

threats? how?

[@laowhy86]

Chuxiang Zhou she got private messages that said some pretty horrible things

[@terryz7406]

sorry to hear that but keyboard warriors are everywhere and i don't think those are real threats...

[@tamagoboukensha4199]

Oh, that's terrible. I don't even think she said anything too controversial... I guess that's the world we live in now. I wager that most of these people wouldn't say these things if they weren't safe behind their anonymity.

[@ayumitachibana1707]

For Chinese : I am a foreign actress and I would like to be an actor in China But I'm afraid I can't as a foreigner Is there a law in China that a foreigner can not play in Chinese movies and TV series? it is possible? Or no matter how hard I try, I can only play a Support Role?

[@meleney5406]

I see a lot of foreigners in Chinese movies and TV shows, Japanese, Americans, etc., but obviously how you want to be the lead, like any other country, you have to work harder than anyone else to learn how to act.

[@LeCrazyCanuckEh]

Hey C-Milk while you are answering questions - does it hang to the left or right or do you have French blood in you and it drags?

[@laowhy86]

I am 100% ethnically German so it kind of stands straight and goose steps.

[@LeCrazyCanuckEh]

laowhy86 LOL nice no wonder Vivi smiles so much :)

[@laowhy86]

LeCrazyCanuckEh ooooohhhhhh

[@Serjo777]

+laowhy86 wow I had no idea you're German. Do you speak German too?

[@agithamoon2436]

Thank you for the video. I found out that you need a Chinese passport to play the China version of Minecraft and I wanted to know what it would take to get there (In theory) ... I think I like western Minecraft just fine lol

[@TheKrimsk]

Great videos, though I am very curious what is the name of the intro song ?

[@laowhy86]

Adrianwave - It's so good to see you again!!

[@TheKrimsk]

Thank you very much :)

[@weizhang2834]

I just saw the CCTV " dalian citizen tiedan "大连人铁蛋，who is a USA citizen. But he got green card actually not because he married with a local , because he speak mandarin very fluently and have a successful career. If you focus on some Chinese tv ,you will find A LOT OF foreigner got green card because they speak very fluently mandarin. Like DaShan（from Canada),runei (亚美尼亚）John (from USA )work in xinhangdao English school. The reason is they really love china , they would like respect this country instead of complaining how different china with other countries. Of course different situation and different history (westerners invaded china in the last 200 hundreds years) and 1.4 population in china even had population control programs in the last 40 years. China have no enough resources for 3000 years even right now still bought a lot resources from Africa. If you really love a country, respect the difference, and work hard for your goal . You will get the green card finally.

[@danpt2000]

I moved from Hong Kong to USA at age of 6. I think I didn't become a American citizen til I was almost 20. It was a combination of feeling not quite American all my life, and being busy with work and school.

[@eagernbays7949]

You look so much better in glasses, very professional!

[@laowhy86]

Thank you! My daughter broke my old ones, so these are new!

[@WolfKenneth]

About that doing bets about citizenship, i've met Pollish girl, doughter of Vietnamese immigrants, she did that as a party trick "guess my nationality?".

[@dorawang5451]

short answer is: NO

[@darrishawks6033]

90% of people in China have insurance that is financed by the government and it doesn't cost that much if you don't have insurance. When it is paid for by "private" companies, those are state-owned enterprises. So the government is doing it and it's going pretty well lol

[@wupeide]

There are special rights given to citizens. There is an education system. There is a social security system and other benefits... though granted these don't compare with the benefits in other countries.

[@akathetruthteller]

why would you want to be a chinese citizen?

[@aaf5721]

Maui Gold love the spitting lol

[@serpentza]

Good video, what I think needs to be mentioned is that you can't work on a spousal visa, so in addition to being married to a local, you'll need to go through all the stringent work visa nonsense every year too for 5 years and also earn above a certain amount and prove that you've paid X amount of taxes etc too

[@laowhy86]

Good point. One of the many caveats of getting visas here.

[@user-my3sx9bv6c]

i'm so sorry for you guys.China wasn't this kind of open 20 years ago,so,most of the things or rules for foreigners which you guys are suffering right now are not for 'today's' foreigners,they are for 'yesterday's' foreigners.but i think it will change day by day,the more immigrants are in,the more they can change China. if China has 200 years immigrating background like USA,i think the rules will be different.China is a developing country,800 million people are still very poor,everything is lack,education,medication,xxcation,etc,China has so many things to do ,so many things to change, but it will take a lot of time and a lot of effort.so until that time,it will still feel not so good for you guys.

[@mcxing9231]

serpentza i asked my friend from taiwan， he said buying an ROC passport cost 60万. and its a free pass。

[@ronaldhonda2276]

He mentioned all of that in a previous video.

[@klevlonhuggins6438]

Very good point too I agreed also stay awesome

[@websuspect]

The US and china does not consider Alcoholics for citizenship.

[@jonnywaselectric]

you seem to have a network of other channels but don't have them listed in the tab

[@laowhy86]

In the description

[@FreddyYUL]

I don't see the link to Vivi channel in the description and also Prozzie channel

[@studyworkandliveineurope7149]

I am sorry, as an HR professional who have worked in China, I am surprised that you said there is no pension system for older people.....That is so not true

[@NickJamesNORSE1991NATIVE]

I'm 15% east Asian does that help me at all?

[@yadhukrishna3535]

Where do you live in CHINA?

[@theartofcompetition5965]

how can i stay in live in china permanently then without a work visa. ( dont have a ba but my job got me a work visa anyway)

[@theartofcompetition5965]

damn that sucks.

[@ronaldhonda2276]

Well done Laowhy86.

[@laowhy86]

Thanks!

[@wentaoli8910]

Why so many comments are sooo long....Good vedio. BTW is Prozzie from Ottawa? Cuz I am here hhh.

[@user-ok4tv7eq7e]

Awesome Li At least they are really ponder instead to expressing thier emotion.

[@FicusVirens]

The value of getting a Chinese citizenship is that it allows you to permanently work in governments or government-sponsored enterprises, which means you are almost impossible to be fired and you can enjoy the complete employee pension and insurance package. There is no need to get one if you are not interested in them.

[@ivanchan2477]

Some foreigners naturalize to become a Hong Kong Chinese citizen. They get a much better passport and apparently the process is easier.

[@stage666]

Cmilk I've always wondered how you guys manage to make a living in China. As far as I know you can live in china legally if you get married to a chinese citizen. But you can't work in China unless you get a work visa. Which is god damn fuckin bullshitly hard to get....I am a college new grad and definitely can't meet that stupid work visa requirement....I am going to china in a month and planning to marry my GF in china and live in china for a bit as well. But it pisses me off that I can't get a job legally. I grew up in china and speak Chinese naively so no body will know I have a Canadian citizenship unless I say it.... But still...IDK how to go about doing this. I have a degree in computer science so probably gonna try to find a software engineer job or similar.....BTW I got a multi-entry visitor visa good for 180 days per stay before having to leave and re-enter China. Anybody has any ideas? Many thanks!!!

[@bobking7454]

Most of the foreigners in China work illegally for English teaching, they only have travel visa! It's hard for foreigners to find software engineer jobs in China since few IT companies want to take risks to hire people who don't have stable and legal working status, Chinese language skill is also important but not to be required by English teaching, the process to hire foreigners is very complicated!

[@stage666]

Bob King Thanks for the info. I guess I can try teaching English too...Hmm..I guess those 补习班 don't care about u being a foreigner? And would still hire u illegally?

[@bobking7454]

yoshinosakura Yes, some private English teaching companies hire foreigners who only have travel visa. The second and third tier cities are more common.

[@quickdudley]

Bob King is wrong about your prospects as a software engineer in China, at least in Shenzhen. Truth is: it depends how good you are and how well you can make your other skills compliment it. Now there will be a lot of companies that won't take the risk of hiring a foreigner but you have a few things going in your favour: 1: Many tech companies in China want to collaborate with foreign partners, so getting an employee who has a technical skill and can combine that with fluency in both Chinese and English is like a dream come true for them. 2: If you look at the pages for employers on Chinese recruitment websites it will look like there's a surplus of software engineers in China, but only 0.1% of them can write a "Hello World" program in any language. There are companies in Shenzhen where they employ 20 or more people just to search for more software engineers who have a clue what they'd be doing because they can never find enough.

[@karlbahena1733]

Would you want to become member of CPC party.

[@gokkku2652]

china is actually very fair to foreigners, at least those in white skin from developed countries, but the barrier of entry is getting higher every year, they even classify foreign nationals now

[@randomcallum]

Don’t know what job you’ve got but my wife is a teacher and she gets 50000+ and a shit ton of benefits I don’t no a single foreign teacher getting paid that much legally

[@RY0404]

Here's a simpler explanation: China doesn't have an immigration program, unlike Canada or the US.

[@RY0404]

***** I'm not trying to start a fight, but China is already the most populous country in the world. They need to be able to easily track down the flow of foreigners, and the reason that they don't have PR cards is that if everyone got their hands on a PR card, it would be much harder to monitor and control the flow of foreigners. O

[@user-dn4kw6kd7f]

This is a point。Plus you don't need a citizen passeport to feel Chinese。What you feel about your identity just doesnt stop to your passeport

[@quickdudley]

The problem with too strict requirements for work visas is often there's a difference between what a given country's skill shortages are on paper and what employers can't find enough of. What I was doing in China was something that on paper they have enough of their own people for, but in practice I was teaching a lot of people who were supposed to already know it (which the HR girl had to explain to the immigration officer every time I renewed my visa)

[@nohllywd]

Did you let Winston know he is only South African on paper?

[@peachleah99]

It is hard for Chinese people to get citizenship in Western countries as well, even via spouses.

[@nabill7352]

Unless you're Dr. Norman Bethune . " Bethune , Bethune ! ( in a chinese accent )" Im sure Prozzie gets that whenever he says he is from Canada .

[@laowhy86]

I used to hear that up north. Not down south though.

[@tylerstead1575]

What song is his intro?

[@michealyu5810]

You are basical right, but china has pension system and health care system.

[@luckywife2714]

hongkong women are very fond of foreigners, so I think it is very easy to get a resident visa

[@nelsondcunha3156]

I thought was impossible to a foreigner become Chinese citizen... I start watching right this video