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@matias71524 жыл бұрын
ok
@flashnimator50254 жыл бұрын
ok
@priyeshgupta1644 жыл бұрын
Hi PM...I am an ECE engg student in Delhi. And would go into final year. I have to make minor and major projects, this semester. The thing is I have no laptop or any pc to do so, and neither can I afford one. Can you please donate me any old laptop for this. Please, I would always be thankful 🙏
@al_caponeh61854 жыл бұрын
We are in crisis here in Peru. Greetings and excelent content btw!
@tazimrahbar78824 жыл бұрын
How you make animations?
@TheBunnyYT4 жыл бұрын
Any border dispute in the world- Britain: uhhh... so yeah... bye!
@thestoic46294 жыл бұрын
fActs lol
@vtron98324 жыл бұрын
Britain is to its colonies the way a douche boyfriend is to his girlfriend: swoop in, get benefits, leave.
@iumasz60884 жыл бұрын
Thats 20th and 21th century Britain. 19th and 18th century Britain would be like "whats that my good chap, a border dispute with the indigenous population?" *Colonisation* *intensifies*
@edwardvictorau4 жыл бұрын
I agree.
@infinitecanadian4 жыл бұрын
@@vtron9832 And British colonies are largely better than the colonies of other countries.
@duoslinger43254 жыл бұрын
13:19 Hongkongers didn't make Cantonese the language of Chinatowns in San Fransisco, and most older Chinatowns. The original immigrants to other countries like the US were all from Canton. San Fransisco's had Cantonese immigrants since the 1850s. The Hongkongers just moved from one Cantonese speaking place to another.
@pascallaw59094 жыл бұрын
HK was basically a fishing village back then when the California Gold Rush started... And Canton used to be the only one Chinese port that was open to the outside world in Qing Dynasty, so most of the immigrants to California were Cantonese-speaking Cantonese (or from nearby counties) back then.
@DaneGilCabrales4 жыл бұрын
Manila Chinatown, the oldest Chinatown in the world is mostly not speaking Cantonese but Fookienese Source: Me, a person living near the oldest Chinatown in the world
@kitwan93644 жыл бұрын
@@pascallaw5909 fookien is a made up word, made by CCP, using mandarin pingyin. The real word is hokkien or hokkienese
@dddddd28724 жыл бұрын
kit wan I’m from Taiwan and I speak Hokkien, but Fookien is not pinyin nor made up by the CCP
@JKMT4 жыл бұрын
@@dddddd2872 Fookien is Cantonese pronunciation of Hokkien
@napoleonibonaparte71984 жыл бұрын
Person to HKer: Are you a British citizen? HKer: Yes but no.
@alcabone11264 жыл бұрын
They are not citizens(allowed to live in the uk permanently) but nationals i think
@Rakinjo24 жыл бұрын
@@alcabone1126 They are by definition not citizens if they cannot vote.
@priyanshu10744 жыл бұрын
Yesn't
@israellai4 жыл бұрын
It's a clear no. We're nationals, not citizens. We can, however, vote in the UK, as commonwealth citizens. Not even EU citizens can do that (before Brexit).
@markonikolic79574 жыл бұрын
@@israellai why would you even write that last sentence lol. Ofcourse someone from Germany couldn't vote in UK, even before Brexit. EU is just a trade and economic union, nothing like a country.
@on99kfc4 жыл бұрын
As a HongKoinger, and one of the 50000 families who got the British Citizenship, I love the last line of the video. We love our city and our way of life, and want to stay here as long as possible, yet Hong Kong is a place on borrowed time.
@harry124 жыл бұрын
do u still have HK SAR passport?
@canto_v124 жыл бұрын
It always was, wasn't it? Even if Hong Kong stays static, the world around it is constantly changing. The "get rich quick" 1980s was just a fluke in history--China doesn't need HK to export its goods anymore. The good thing is, if we work hard and do good things (rioting is not a "good thing"), we can give Hong Kong a breath of new life. The past is gone, and the future is what we make of it.
@lrt_unimog83162 жыл бұрын
Another BC👋
@nmslese Жыл бұрын
@@canto_v12 "rioting", ha~
@berniethekiwidragon4382 Жыл бұрын
That borrowed time is up.😔
@kwanlinus69994 жыл бұрын
13:37 This is the case with the Hong Kong Chief Executive currently, Carrie Lam. She works as the CE, but her husband and two sons reside in the UK and hold full UK citizenship and passports.
@edwardvictorau4 жыл бұрын
Very good timing for this clip, when Hongkongers are worried about their passports and identity.
@SW-82284 жыл бұрын
Ed I’m worried because UK and HK are quite in not so good relationships and what am I? Well the previous 2 places I just named.
@SW-82284 жыл бұрын
UK Politics And His Opinion 3 million is an over statement. The UK has a housing crisis.
@alfredthegreat1944 жыл бұрын
UK Politics And His Opinion we are already a full country. Our ecology is dying. Building housing and more infrastructure would be a disaster.
@0utd0wns0uth4 жыл бұрын
The City of Hong Kong deserves independence; watching this city-state slowly die from Chinese invasion is heartbreaking as a British citizen
@danieljohnson49944 жыл бұрын
@@SW-8228 I don't think you understand the housing crisis it not because there isn't enough houses there is it's the facts that theres not enough social/affordable houses for low income workers
@eustache_dauger4 жыл бұрын
3:10 transfer of sovereignty to an existing country, instead of full independence also happened to the Crown Colonies of North Borneo, Sarawak and Singapore in 1963 when the three territories were given away to the main British ally in Southeast Asia, the Federation of Malaya. Whereas a referendum was conducted in Singapore in 1962, no such referendum was conducted in both Borneo colonies.
@eugeneng70644 жыл бұрын
Sarawak became independent on the 22nd of July 1963 then joined the Federation on the 16th of September of the same year.
@eustache_dauger4 жыл бұрын
@@eugeneng7064 22nd July marks the date of attaining self-governance, not independence. There are differences between "self-governance" and "independence." Singapore attained self-governance in 1959, but they're still not independent until 1965. The Federation of Malaya attained self-governance in 1955 (when the Alliance won the 1955 election) but only achieved independence in 1957. Independence confers sovereignty, which is best demonstrated through control of security & defense, as well as capacity to conduct diplomacy with other sovereign foreign states and international organizations. Sarawak has neither of the two since 1946. If possible, you may refer to the telegram dated 1st September 1963 from Lord Selkirk to the Colonial Office, which states among other thing a. The grant of independence to a territory under British sovereignty requires an act of Parliament at Westminster. b. That the British Malaysia Act provides for the transfer of British sovereignty over Singapore, Sabah and Sarawak to the new Federation of Malaysia *but does not provide for the separate independence of these territories.* In 1966, Singapore retroactively received its Singapore Act 1966 from the Parliament of the United Kingdom, therefore fulfilling item "a" as mentioned above.
@eugeneng70644 жыл бұрын
@@eustache_dauger hmm. Good to know. Thank you
@risannd4 жыл бұрын
Not much later, Indonesia was outraged and set an invasion, which they lost.
@sardosam_4 жыл бұрын
@@user-op8fg3ny3j brunei was always and still is a Sultanate, isn't it?
@AverytheCubanAmerican4 жыл бұрын
China: How much content do you want PolyMatter: Yes Also, that’s Tiananmen on the passport, not the Great Wall
@williamzhu78454 жыл бұрын
@@labadaba5088 wrong date, try May 35th
@alancheung49774 жыл бұрын
Kim Jong-un will not like this ...
@KinkyLettuce4 жыл бұрын
@@labadaba5088 tiananmen is June 4th
@gsacelm77534 жыл бұрын
Why do I find you everywhere
@brennencox5164 жыл бұрын
"Also, that’s Tiananmen on the passport, not the Great Wall" Tianmen Tower, to be precise.
@f1sh984 жыл бұрын
Small correction, at 7:40 you say they mention the same Great Wall, I believe the Chinese emblem is the Tiananmen, the large gates entering the forbidden city
@chucklebutt44704 жыл бұрын
Yup, the "Gate of Heavenly Peace". I wish there was more liberty in modern China. I'd love to actually visit there.
@krioni86sa4 жыл бұрын
How many people live there?
@NicholasMarkovich4 жыл бұрын
He says the same national emblem *and* illustration of the Great Wall, which is *inside* both passports.
@dan339dan4 жыл бұрын
The great wall is the background illustration on each page of the passport.
@martiddy4 жыл бұрын
@@chucklebutt4470 Quite ironic name since it's located in front of the Tiananmen Square.
@saggalousmmwamow90694 жыл бұрын
As a native Hong Konger, I'd say this video is a very well made one with very thorough understanding of the situation. Thank you for the useful and informative video.
@eugeneng70644 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure the image at 7:40 is the Gate of Heavenly Peace, aka Tiananmen, not the great wall.
@stanislaviliev63054 жыл бұрын
Probably cause it was less bloody
@alexlee71684 жыл бұрын
@@stanislaviliev6305 damn just like that, true tho
@raymondlaw52584 жыл бұрын
The same Tiananmen where the protest for freedom were supported by Hong Kongers, and were masscared by China
@campkira4 жыл бұрын
hence why they gave NGO passport so people had a choice and ability to get out of the country in case worse thing happen is the foolish kid who think... this is my home i will stay...and fight the biggest goverment in the world whoese record is know to do evil shit to people who go against them...
@PolyMatter4 жыл бұрын
The Great Wall illustrations are *inside* the passports, but both passports have a national emblem.
@doubledeckyomom4 жыл бұрын
"British plan to move Hong Kong to Northern Ireland" The cheek 😂
@리주민4 жыл бұрын
That actually has been done before by various countries to dilute a province's native population, particularly when the natives despise the "foreign" govt.
@lorili68854 жыл бұрын
Ur not welcomed, get back to China!
@mikeoxsmal80224 жыл бұрын
@@lorili6885 the brits already did that to northern Ireland before, that is the reason ni is even still brittish
@oakoakoak22194 жыл бұрын
@@mikeoxsmal8022 Yeah, the protestant population was there to maintain the union
@liuzeyuan4 жыл бұрын
Moving Asians I mean not whites to Ireland? Lol effing bs
@xxyanlixx4 жыл бұрын
I'm from Hong Kong, I'm learning so much about our SAR. Thank you Evan :)
@Rey-lg8sx3 жыл бұрын
You have national identity different in mainland China.
@recnemorcen4 жыл бұрын
13:45 "Such is the predicament of Hong Kongers. They love their city, their language, and their way of life. They want, above all else, and as long as possible, to stay. And yet, they also know these things are temporary." As a Hong Konger, these words cut so deep that they actually brought tears to my eyes...
@HT-jy7dv4 жыл бұрын
I mean Hong Kong hasn't changed... But sure whatever.
@Perririri4 жыл бұрын
It will all be over in 2047
@martinmendl13993 жыл бұрын
@@Perririri Its already over now. Hongkong has become a dictatorship last year. China broke the agreement.
@NoCareBearsGiven3 жыл бұрын
Hong Kong will still have culture after China takes it...? Cantonese culture itself isn’t even native to Hong Kong lol so I wonder how Hakka felt before this. People seem to think Hong Kong is the only Cantonese place in China and forget Guangdong exists lol
@crodsbye3 жыл бұрын
@@NoCareBearsGiven Cantonese spoken in Guangdong is slightly different to that of Hong Kong. Guangdong Cantonese consists of more mandarin-derived vocabulary and noticeable differences in vowel placement, many youths in Guangdong also have a stronger mandarin accent due to education there being entirely in mandarin. Hong Kong Cantonese has more English loan words and we generally sound angrier. It's similar to the differences between Austrian and Standard German.
@mpch37434 жыл бұрын
10:04 Fun fact: they tore up an expired BNO passport
@tristanlau12134 жыл бұрын
And the corner was cut, that means they renewed the BNO passport as well lol
@hkbazinga12834 жыл бұрын
How do I show my loyalty to China but play it safe at the same time? Tearing up expired and corner-cut BNOs.
@owencheng5234 жыл бұрын
To also persuade others to tear up tears,in order to reduce the number of rivalry for him.BTW for 大波Man as we no he is definitely a police(got knee knocked lol) but judging by his attitude, and his fame and popularity within this incident he is more likely focused on his own personal insurance of safety for him and his future or family perhaps.Yet as we can see judging by the fact as a police he can’t receive any bribe from any,suggesting he won’t benefit except infamy from the incident.So it’s better for him to play safe is he really committed to the cause as it benefits himself,or is he actually hiding behind this camouflage and what he really care is his own survival.well anyway ladies and gentle man wat have been shown is a weakness,and yet how many individuals that have a BNO is only a handful compared to the majority of population today.They either are the ruling classes that benefits from the regime,or either they are going to play it safe judging by their minimal age.Finally to those lucky individuals(judging by ur own point of view) we all may have different cards own our hands as individual,but wat I can only say by now is play your cards wisely it’s better to take a shoot when u got a clear view of the situation.
@p8p8777 ай бұрын
Expired BNO passports are still eligible for re-application
@mchmchminecraft16374 жыл бұрын
Those who torn their BNO in front of the British Embassy had their passport already cut in corner in 09:59
@ddnn9742 жыл бұрын
Those just clowns
@berniethekiwidragon4382 Жыл бұрын
They don't pledge loyalty to China or the broader Chinse People. They are just sycophants to the perpetually insecure control-freak rotting undead corpses who are sitting in Zhongnanhai in Beijing.
@parcoli13114 жыл бұрын
As a Hongkonger, the closing remark choked me up.
@shawnli92844 жыл бұрын
Parco Li why you chose overseas
@Sinaeb4 жыл бұрын
@@shawnli9284 Can't choose where you are born
@parcoli13114 жыл бұрын
Shawn Li Sorry, I cannot comprehend your question.
@Edoardo396channel4 жыл бұрын
Good luck with your freedom 💪
@infinitecanadian4 жыл бұрын
I sympathize with Hong Kong.
@SupremeLeaderKimJong-un4 жыл бұрын
13:03 What happened to my peninsula
@deeeenisttv4 жыл бұрын
RIP
@PedroGomes-mt3iz4 жыл бұрын
Well spotted, supreme leader
@user-ld6is4ni3d4 жыл бұрын
Ahhh yes, the person from swiss001!
@YourboiM4 жыл бұрын
China ate it
@emperorpenguin46634 жыл бұрын
Your majestic/supreme leader, you will automatically become a US citizen sir. I approved this message
@s0700761004 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate your effort into introducing Hong Kong to the English speaking world !
@shrewdguy49163 жыл бұрын
I would say most British people know the situation in Hong kong
@hgos72114 жыл бұрын
12:24 Wow, never thought I'll be able to see my housing estate in a KZbin video.
@davidscutar14034 жыл бұрын
@Hgo S stay safe
@alancheung49774 жыл бұрын
Same in that exact clip i saw my home
@hgos72114 жыл бұрын
@@trackc61 Search "Tseung Kwan O". You'll be able to recognize the canal on Google maps.
@hgos72114 жыл бұрын
@@davidscutar1403 It's generally a pretty safe city. I'm not a part of the protests.
@nytrex_yt74174 жыл бұрын
That housing estate looks peaceful tho
@xxyanlixx4 жыл бұрын
There are so many sentimental resonance that connect with me on this video: 1. My mother is one of those who obtained British citizenship under the 50 thousand citizenship grant scheme. 2. My uncle, who was a BNO holder, feared the CCP, sold his two apartments in Pok Fu Lam (upper-class neighborhood) and fled to Vancouver to obtain a Canadian citizenship. Granted, he came back to Hong Kong but the housing price rose so much he now cannot afford to buy a home here. 3. My father, who's a US citizen, in contrast, did not see CCP as a threat and stayed in Hong Kong to continue with his business, invested more in the property market and has seen his net worth rose year by year. He is constantly considering to surrender his US citizenship to obtain the Hong Kong SAR passport. Going forward, the BNO situation doesn't affect me at all. But through the grapevine, it's been said the parents of the post-97 born protesters would settle in UK first to gain full British citizenship, then bring their children over afterwards, creating another type of "astronauts". However, this major decision varies between families. I love that you cover Hong Kong and China so much. Would be happy to donate a sizable amount if you have a patreon account.
@laod71924 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@xxyanlixx4 жыл бұрын
Chenxing Li $50/video :)
@chunchoi44344 жыл бұрын
You might want to tell your father that you can't have both a Hong Kong passport and a u.s. passport. No surrender necessary.
@harry124 жыл бұрын
so how many passports do u have? US? UK? and HK SAR?
@holycow3434 жыл бұрын
Some people just value political freedom more over economic stability and vice versa. HK People who are fearful of losing political freedom should just leave HK why cause trouble for the ones who don't mind sacrificing a little bit of political freedom for economic stability. To those people who think China will give up land so that HKers can be independent are extremely naiive.
@16Gym4 жыл бұрын
Those BNO changes are not confirmed yet. Also, the majority of young protestors will be left out, which doesn't help the situation at all.
@04nbod4 жыл бұрын
We really should re-open applications for it. If the children of the people in 1997 could access it, it would raise that percentage considerably. But a mass exodus won't help Hong Kong. It will just remove opposition. Our actions need to be focused on getting China to back off
@rei_cirith4 жыл бұрын
Depends what they do about family of BNO holders. Hopefully they'll figure something out. Honestly, after BEXIT, the UK could use professionals from Hong Kong.
@ZeBanded4 жыл бұрын
that said, its still in an early stage. things could change
@tylerliu26324 жыл бұрын
all those countries and people who say that they care about the hker's freedom, have done little to nothing other than just sayin stuff. when it comes to actually doing things they are useless
@garmenlin59904 жыл бұрын
The only thing it helps is lowering the housing prices
@Clozi64 жыл бұрын
Thank you for covering Hong Kong! This was much needed.
@NicholasLeung_nktleung4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for such a detailed analysis. As a Hong Konger who has 3 passports, 2 homes and one of the weirdest identity in the world, I was touched.
@thisshouldbecensored45044 жыл бұрын
I would just like to say thank you for that ending, as a Hong Konger, it really did hit me hard :')
@nicholaslau31944 жыл бұрын
Same here. Stand with HK
@andison6274 жыл бұрын
Same here bro.
@VisibilityFoggy4 жыл бұрын
What are you planning to do? How can one plan his life in Hong Kong - a mortgage, starting a business, speaking freely - knowing that an evil dictatorship could come in at any second? I'd be trying everything I could to escape.
@isaacwong14654 жыл бұрын
me too as a HongKonger
@canto_v124 жыл бұрын
@@VisibilityFoggy Sorry, the "evil dictatorship" came in in 1997. You're 23 years late. Meanwhile, what you *can* do is make the best of what you have, and once China is convinced you've settled down, they actually give HK a LOT of leeway.
@mrtek80954 жыл бұрын
Finally, a new Polymatter vid! Pls upload more, your vids are great!
@rrune4 жыл бұрын
Great videos take time unfortunately
@worldwidewonders6814 жыл бұрын
Cute dog
@tomlam86843 жыл бұрын
The fact that the youth in Hong Kong fought so hard in 2019 only gave a chance for older generation to get their UK citizenship. Most of them even supported HK gov for their anti democracy move. That make me sad.
@adrianktng4 жыл бұрын
As a Hong Konger, Thank you so much to make a video about us
@thomastang62724 жыл бұрын
I was born a British Citizen in HK but now i am US Citizen. We left in 1980's and never returned. My mom has BNO and never applied for me due to that I was a minor. We became US Citizen long prior to 1997 handover anyway.
@garrettzucker28944 жыл бұрын
You sir are very lucky right now
@aaryt4 жыл бұрын
He lives in the country owned by corporations/lobbyist, plagued with racism, obesity epidemic, expensive healthcare, has a comedian leader named Trump, who's infrastucture is disintegrating, shrinking middle class, has more than a trillion debt to China, funds wars every decade or so. I wouldn't call that lucky.
@lennartherix68724 жыл бұрын
@@aaryt Still better than fearing about your freedom
@gebys45594 жыл бұрын
My friend didn't get it as his parents couldn't be bothered to apply for him. He studied in UK and with BNO could have likely extended it to full citizenship, but had only HKSAR so had no such option despite living there for several years.
@GyroCannon4 жыл бұрын
@@garrettzucker2894 But is he REALLY though? The US and HK are both suffering politically right now.
@brycem12074 жыл бұрын
Probably one of the best channels in terms of content on and about China 👍🏽
@kingpak13254 жыл бұрын
Bryce Franco Zholshybekov We aren’t Chinese, they are colonising us HongKongers.
@kenzhang3124 жыл бұрын
@@kingpak1325 How pathetic
@deeeenisttv4 жыл бұрын
@@kingpak1325 yes, but it's still a video which is related to China
@de1324 жыл бұрын
@@kenzhang312 I don't think it's pathetic, I do think it's a stark opinion.
@kenzhang3124 жыл бұрын
@@de132 even the second/third generation immigrants from China still call themselves Chinese in overseas. They would not deny they are Chinese, some of these young people in HK have betrayed their roots, lost their spines. That is truly sad and really really pathetic. how come the young people in Macau doesn't say something like that? Also the irony is that most of the people who miss the British ruled time are the ones who have never experienced it.
@p9848o Жыл бұрын
I was born in 1998 and I will immigratie to the UK through BNO visa in the coming year (One of my parents is BNO holder who was born in HONG KONG before 1997). I just want to say I think I am a British who is loyally to THE KING .
@darth.severuss Жыл бұрын
1st, BNOs are not British citizens. 2nd BNO visa does not guarantee citizenship.
@ehislqwezad316 Жыл бұрын
Bno holders have right to vote.
@ehislqwezad316 Жыл бұрын
@@darth.severuss you chinese are always china citizenship 🤣
@yggvv7570 Жыл бұрын
I agree. So why China is not happy about this? @@darth.severuss
@silverstar5014 жыл бұрын
9:47 Supporting the china by tearing off Photocopies and overdue BNO passport while sending their children to study in UK.... such a powerful support to the great china! (slowly clapping my hands.....)
@FlylHigh4 жыл бұрын
It's about competition and status. Why complete against millions of other students while there's far less competition oversea. International students have to pay far more than their domestic counterpart, so it shows the family got money as well. That being said, there's international student going to China as well.
@achernarchang8834 жыл бұрын
It's a widespread phenomenon not only in HK, but in China at large. Many Chinese "patriots" publicly boast their love for China while, in private, send their offsprings to study abroad and even get foreign citizenships.
@SimonLeeds4 жыл бұрын
That’s like saying all Americans are all racist. And all Russians just drink vodka all day. (Slowly clapping my hands at you...)
@leung6184 жыл бұрын
That dude who teared photocopy passport doesn't have a right for holding a BNO passport, he borned after 1997. And the another man teared his cancelled passport lol
@achernarchang8834 жыл бұрын
@@SimonLeeds Dunno what made you come to your analogy. Last time I checked, "many" and "all" didn't mean the same.
@dhv28524 жыл бұрын
All my love and support to everyone in Hong Kong, keep fighting, the world is watching you.
@darthguilder1923 Жыл бұрын
4:55 those 30 million Commonwealth citizens, who you sneer at for their race, were not about to be annexed by an un-democratic country, and so the comparison is moot
@제규형3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I've lived in Hong Kong for wonderful 4 years and loved every moment of it. The way its amazing mix of people and freedom back then was unlike anything I've seen. I hope they find their freedom soon.
@ultearmilkojohn11454 жыл бұрын
7:30 the national emblem features an illustration of Tiananmen Gate, the entrance to the Forbidden City, not the Great Wall as stated
@FrozenBusChannel4 жыл бұрын
I think he's mentioning the Great Wall graphic on the inner page?
@sohopedeco4 жыл бұрын
I was in Macau during the 2014 Brazilian presidential elections and I read a news report about the ballot on the Brazilian consulate of Hong Kong was the one where the opposing candidate Aécio Neves had won by the largest margin in the world. Then they explained that most "Brazilian" voters in Hong Kong were actually Hong Kongers who had lived for sometime in Brazil, naturalized, and then went back. Most didn't really care and only wanted to make sure not lose the Brazilian citizenship.
@drlau88984 жыл бұрын
Well done. A very well-round explanation on Hong Kong issue. Absolutely right about that we, the British National Overseas in Hong Kong love our city and hope to reside here. However, it is also true that we need protection from the Britain at the moment as we are now oppressed by the tyranny. The Sino-British joint declaration, an international treaty between the UK and China is breached and therefore the UK has right and duty to extend the rights of BNOs and save them. For short term, there might be minor influx of people in the UK, but it is sure that they will leave once HK is liberated from the tyranny. For the time BNOs are staying in the UK, there will also be contributing and not welfare consuming, just like how they live in Hong Kong. It would be grateful if the world could understand the issue and continue to stand with Hong Kong.
@zeqi4 жыл бұрын
We learn more about the world and useful information from a single 15 minute video by Polymatter than a whole day in school
@KarlDMarx4 жыл бұрын
I remember one Hong Konger stating: "We are not British subjects - we are British objects!" The question of nationality and residence status is just a game for the elites.
@KeKNine4 жыл бұрын
11:06 this dude has some big ass shoes
@rosssyr4 жыл бұрын
Fill them with gravy
@groundsalt21994 жыл бұрын
I read this as ass holes lmao
@yuetchuen4 жыл бұрын
@@groundsalt2199 I read this as big ass holes shoes lmao
@liam-man72654 жыл бұрын
He must be the real Bigfoot.
@yiliang90854 жыл бұрын
Thank you for covering the issue!
@kothemagica4 жыл бұрын
As a HKer I got to say I learnt a lot from this video
@paciic4 жыл бұрын
12:00 Actually their Parent(s) can get citizenship, then as a Spouse/Child of the Citizen can gain citizenship in the UK
@ycohui4 жыл бұрын
HK Protests PolyMatter: Meh UK Home Office & Foreign Minister Mails PolyMatter: BNO is becoming better, Yap. But the majority protesters isn’t really eligible for BN(O) Protesters: Cries. We love Hong Kong, as we could kept just like the 80s and 90s. Yeah, Hong Kong is always as a second-class citizens under whose control. Yet, They are Hong Kongers but not Chinese. They still got their language as the vid stated (Cantonese). The independent currency and a slightly weird judiciary system. Maybe the controlling by brits were bad before, but the double-deckers buses, freedoms and the lovely society was brought from UK. God save the queen as just Her Majesty’s “formal” birthday had just passed, and Hope the freedom would be with Hong Kong and their citizens
@hko20064 жыл бұрын
Not sure you do you mean by "a slightly weird judiciary system", HK follows the common law system from the UK.
@ycohui4 жыл бұрын
As the Judge of Final Court is appointed by Chief Executive of HKSAR, at the current state, Carrie Lam whom isn’t selected directly by the citizens but appointed by PRC Government. What would you think about the judge? Currently Geoffrey Ma is still having a high credibility. But he is going to retire and there is a new one coming. Who knows what will be going on. HM Government just not as the same as PRC Government
@rei_cirith4 жыл бұрын
We won't have our language for long if China has anything to say about it. A Hong Kong teacher was recently fired because a mainland parent complained that they refused to teach in Mandarin. Mandarin is also slowly taking over Chinatowns overseas.
@lilitong80674 жыл бұрын
Freedom when ruled by the uk? But the problem is that the hk people were regarded as second class citizens and never had the right to elect their government
@hko20064 жыл бұрын
@@ycohui Ah, thank you for reminding me this "appointed by CE" bit, forgot it myself.
@oliversissonphone61434 жыл бұрын
Factually incorrect. Australians haven’t been able to move to the UK without a visa for a long time. (1950s?)
@megaangelic4 жыл бұрын
Still can if their parents or grandparents were British. At that moment in time that was a very very large portion of Australians and Canadians. Today much less so.
@MuppetsSh0w4 жыл бұрын
Gotta mention white people bad you know
@Sparx6324 жыл бұрын
It does have 90 day visa free access though I think.
@williamevans48942 жыл бұрын
Australia and Canada should be allowed to move to the UK without visas
@quahntasy4 жыл бұрын
*border dispute occurs* Britain - uh okay bye
@p8p8777 ай бұрын
As a HKer now in London as a dependent(fancy way of saying immigrant teen) I'm grateful of Britain allowing us to come.
@silverhawkscape26777 ай бұрын
Sadly. The Illegal Migrants are making Native Brits more anti Immigrant. I fear for Collateral.
@jakob56434 жыл бұрын
Hmm sounds like a new microphone right? so good quality on the commentary
@natureportal92854 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@geometrydashmega2384 жыл бұрын
@@natureportal9285 Keep up the good content
@natureportal92854 жыл бұрын
@@geometrydashmega238 thanks
@aryanpuri61924 жыл бұрын
@@natureportal9285 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@michelleli21756 ай бұрын
Very well written. It is sad to see what happened to HK. And, half of my family moved to UK now.
@Wolfangs884 жыл бұрын
Britain: HK people are second class citizens HK: people waiving the British colonial flag and singing God Save the Queen
@edgelord83374 жыл бұрын
The irony.
@johnneymc4 жыл бұрын
u beat a dog too often and too hard the dog starts to think that beating means love
@anthonyleung8354 жыл бұрын
Better be second class British citizens than second class Chinese ‘citizens’
@proboxpepper67524 жыл бұрын
@@anthonyleung835 I thought Hong Kongers feel more superior among all the Chinese.
@ppaaccoojrf4 жыл бұрын
@@proboxpepper6752 Exactly. Better to be second class citizen of Britain than a citizen of China of any kind.
@clementkong81334 жыл бұрын
@9:41 if u notice the top right corner of the passport was cut, so those people ripping their BNO passports were actually just ripping their expired BNO passport.
@hko20064 жыл бұрын
8:14 Hong Kong passport is being exploited by Chinese, Sabrina Meng has 3 HK passports for instance.
@jeroenchu71474 жыл бұрын
what is the use of 3 passports?
@Scarsofevil4 жыл бұрын
@@jeroenchu7147 Idk, but alot of the wealthy and every government official have passports in other countries. I think there is a document leaked where alot of them have US, Canadian, and Australian Citizenship. Like Bruh....
@MC_MMV4 жыл бұрын
I have 3 passports. UK, Australian and South African
@angus10874 жыл бұрын
You missed several crucial point on why Hong Kongers currently view BNO is superior to HK passports. 1. You could obtain an emergency passport to continue your trip if you loss your BNO, while you cant do so if you hold an HKSAR passport. The chinese embassy have no authority to make an HK emergecy passport as the granting of a HK emergency passport could only be done by the Immigration Office in Hong Kong, not by the Chinese embassy. As a result, the Chinese embassy could only give an A4 paper for you to fly back to Hong Kong. 2. Some countries in EU/EEA treats BNO as BC holders and offer them EEA tuition fees and benefits as same as BC holders. It is way easier to open a foreign bank account if you present a BNO compared to HK passports. 3. The citizenship displays as British for BNO holders while it shows Chinese in HK passports. In some countries it would be easier and quicker for us to deal with immigration officers or using some other services. Discrimination to chinese nationals do exists. 4. The UK embassy provides the same quality of assistance to BNO holders as that of BC. While the chinese embassy offers no help to HK passport holders as they technically do not have the information of the HK passport holders, and ironically they treated HK passport holders as second tier chinese citizens in handling their cases. This was evident when the UK evacuated BNO holders from overseas back to Hong Kong much quicker and lower cost compared to HK passport holders. Currently there is a large surge in BNO applications in Hong Kong. The number of renewal applications per year is rising exponentially due to the political unrest and the COVID-19 response to HK citizens overseas.
@awtizme4 жыл бұрын
13:03 RIP Korea
@Useless03054 жыл бұрын
98 2 cheeky bit of racism 😬🥴
@La1930CosaNostra4 жыл бұрын
Wow!!! Attention to detail I must say... You picked that out in a 5 second clip of the world map... 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@capncake88373 жыл бұрын
@B J You can actually see a little of NZ.
@azuru.79034 жыл бұрын
Damn your videos are genuinely awesome
@firewoodloki4 жыл бұрын
I am a Hongkonger, I see Hong Kong I upvote! Edit after watching: Yes, we LOVE Hong Kong. It is great that many countries, including Taiwan and the UK are welcoming us. The top option for us always is to stay in Hong Kong where it is our home. Please help us, in boycotting China's product, and supporting your country to sanction China.
@huayisun89834 жыл бұрын
Why don't you start boycotting everything from Mainland China yourself?Not only products, but water, electricity and food supply. Perhaps also add your parents and grandparents.
@israellai4 жыл бұрын
Spotted the redditor
@captaindak51194 жыл бұрын
Nah, my country is on alright terms with the PRC.
@toniETH4 жыл бұрын
Huayi Sun so yeah... Bye
@hy1284 жыл бұрын
If you want to boycott China, leave hongkong as quick as possible
@dylreesYT4 жыл бұрын
Amazing video, well done and thank you
@deep.space.124 жыл бұрын
1:31 More like threatening a military invasion instead of simply cutting the water supply. Hong Kong had plenty of reservoirs and used to have a desalination plant, making the territory largely independent of China's water supply (and basically any supply. Most of Hong Kong's local imports are from Southeast Asia, not China. Emphasis on "local" because import stats cover re-exports). The majority of water purchased from China is ditched directly to the sea anyway, and serves only as a means to transfer HK's coffer to China. This idea was reinforced during a major drought in China, where China refused to reduce the water supply to HK (which had plenty of water), and cared only about profiting from water supply than their own citizen's lives. Of course, that was used by Chinese propaganda to create hate towards HK people for receiving preferential treatment during a drought, despite the HK government had pleaded China to stop drowning us with water during a drought. But to perpetuate the fear-mongering of HK's dependency of China, many of the water projects were shut down circa the handover.
@canto_v124 жыл бұрын
This is correct, from retired Chinese officials' accounts, the negotiation was basically Deng Xiaoping stating that China would resort to military force if Hong Kong wasn't returned in 1997. Britain had no leverage, and the fact that Hong Kong Island relied on Chinese supply of natural resources was just the nail in the coffin for colonial Hong Kong.
@samarthrao37934 жыл бұрын
it’s so cool watching these videos after watching your skill share course
@gavinchan8384 жыл бұрын
You hit the nail on the head. All of those protesters love their city, culture, language and the way of life. However, it is looking increasingly likely that China would not give up on increasing their influence on HK and turning it into a normal Chinese city eventually. Therefore leaving might be the only option left.
@My-nl6sg4 жыл бұрын
not looking increasingly likely, it's certain that having recovered territory from colonization any country with a brain would want to reintegrate it. To the Chinese, there's no reason that one is any different from another simply because they were born in an ex-colony. It was and it will be just a Chinese city, so I guess bye.
@itzhen70324 жыл бұрын
My it was never a city, it was a small fishing village built upon a big pile of rocks, hong kong only flurished afther british rule
@unifieddynasty4 жыл бұрын
@@itzhen7032 Hong Kong flourished primarily because of geopolitical and macroeconomic factors, not because of any alleged innate advantage of British imperialism. The reality was that Britain in Hong Kong operated under the policy of "positive non-interventionism", where Hong Kong's economy was left to the free market of Chinese labourers who built the city, wealthy Chinese entrepreneurs who provided the networks and capital, and skilled Chinese artisans who preserved Chinese culture. The Chinese first migrated to Hong Kong because Britain won the Opium Wars and secured Hong Kong as their exclusive most favourable port of trade between China and the rest of the world, and later more Chinese migrated to Hong Kong to escape the civil war and communism, whereupon Hong Kong was once again an exclusive trade port between China and the rest of the world. Don't fall into the trap of viewing British imperialists as some sort of idyllic white man's burden prometheus. The world is far more complex than that.
@lzh49504 жыл бұрын
@@My-nl6sg The PRC probably has flashbacks to the Opium War I think & probably feels that HK was supposed to be destined to be "just a Chinese city" I think?
@lzh49504 жыл бұрын
@@My-nl6sg I believe mainland China is also canvassing support from Chinese outside greater China too e.g. Singapore, with probably the belief that it should transcend national boundaries
@makemoneynow50614 жыл бұрын
Keep posting interesting contents like this!
@jimstar1794 жыл бұрын
0:30 The shown map of Hong Kong is wrong. Before 1997, the rectangular piece of land next to the Chek Lap Kok airport has not been reclaimed yet, for that Hong Kong Macau Bridge has not been built.
@attalan87324 жыл бұрын
Britain refuses to give up Hong Kong - gets accused of imperialism. Britain gives up Hong Kong to mainland - accused of betraying Hong Kongers.
@flappetyflippers2 жыл бұрын
Well as a Brit this made me feel very angry with our government for not doing more for the people of Hong Kong and just returning them to wear is essentially, a bully
@charleswomack21662 жыл бұрын
Canadians of convenience is yet another name for the HK people who obtained Canadian citizenship and then moved back to HK. But now, I imagine that a lot of these Canadians will be moving to Canada!
@MrE034 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making videos on such important topics. Subscribed!
@10230691ust3 жыл бұрын
very insightful video clip, useful and thought provoking , particularly for those ppl in hk who are uncertain about their future
@adamsfusion4 жыл бұрын
Stateless HK: So Britain, can you give us a home? Britain: I would but, y'know, _you're brown_ .
@isaacwong14654 жыл бұрын
no we're yellow
@armour74 жыл бұрын
Tbh, I don’t think there is a problem with people who are British getting British passports. There were changes that were bad, but I think that it is only fair that someone who was born in the uk (or someone in their immediate family) should be allowed back to the UK in the place to someone that wasn’t.
@skfok84724 жыл бұрын
@@isaacwong1465 yea we're yellow
@skfok84724 жыл бұрын
Which is kinda white
@Subscriberschallenge-hh6tu4 жыл бұрын
racism
@jimyu91474 жыл бұрын
Wow, this is a really well researched video. Amazing channel.
@xeroxsaw13034 жыл бұрын
Chinese related topics: Exists PollyMatter: *I can milk you*
@bobcatdidi81884 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah It's big brain time
@SimonLeeds4 жыл бұрын
You’re from the mainland right? Mainland sucks.
@edgelord83374 жыл бұрын
@@SimonLeeds bait.
@G323524434 жыл бұрын
@@SimonLeeds shill
@t.godemiche70874 жыл бұрын
A brilliant analysis, thank you!
@onnybody4 жыл бұрын
The statement about Australian, Canadian and New Zealand citizens having the right of abode in the UK in the 1990s at about 4.55 is incorrect. Commonwealth citizens lost that automatic right in 1962.
@ESC_jackqulen4 жыл бұрын
Great video! I really like several points pointed out in this video that were often overlooked by the news. -some saw HK returning to China as a good thing back then, because we're not ever considered as British citizens. -my family is the prime example of "astronaut" thing mentioned in the video. My mum stayed in HK while the rest of my family immigrated to USA. My dad has returned to HK after getting US citizenship. The foreign passport as security is so true. Because of having US citizenship and me not moving back to HK (lol), my parents now started to make plans to permanently moving to USA also...
@ESC_jackqulen4 жыл бұрын
@Erwin Lii Hi, I'll answer them with my own bias on the issue... -In my personal opinion, reclaiming HK is not about winning the cold war against USA/India, but simply a matter of national pride and ending colonialism on what used to be China's land. -I wouldn't say the UK "left their colonial mess behind" this time around. UK wished to remain control on HK but China does not want any foreign involvement in HK, so the UK was forced to leave. -The China-Taiwan issue is far another complicated situation. Technically, both claim to be the legitimate 'China'. What started this divide is the different political parties. You can say it's a civil war that never ended. There is no right or wrong in political systems. Just because we grew up with democratic ideologies doesn't equal communism has to be wrong. (of course, as an individual I would prefer one that gives me more personal and political freedom) -The HK protests... It started with the extradition law which is saying that the HK government can send fugitives to mainland China to be put under China's judicial laws. The law was opposed because people in HK afraid that China will abuse this law. The first demonstrations against the law were peaceful, it's 1 million people went on the streets saying they don't want this bill to be passed. HK government decided to ignore and continue to green-light the bill, then a week later 2 million people went on the streets to say no. It gets violent after that because there is a lack of response from the HK government that satisfies the will of HK people.
@jeaniechowdury5764 жыл бұрын
What has happened in HK is so tragic.
@canto_v124 жыл бұрын
Same with the US. We'll all get better just give it some time.
@martinmendl13993 жыл бұрын
@@canto_v12 Hongkong will never get better. China is inevitably going to become the global hegemon for the forseeable future, and Hongkongese identity and democracy will be totally extinguished. It is a tragedy.
@canto_v123 жыл бұрын
@@martinmendl1399 Agree to disagree. In the meantime don't be scared to visit us after vaccination, it's a great place.
@Peahnuts4 жыл бұрын
Not sure if it means anything, but I hadn't been receiving your videos for about 5 months. I had thought you completely stopped until I stumbled upon this one by accident!
@FungCheukMantheboyonfire4 жыл бұрын
Glory to Hong Kong 🇭🇰
@hko20064 жыл бұрын
#StandWithHongKong #NewWestBerlin
@bprogressive4 жыл бұрын
glory to hongkong.hongkong is part of china.
@mdgun4 жыл бұрын
Good job, this is very well researched and up to date
@黎勇輝4 жыл бұрын
I'm from Hong Kong! Born after handover. I'm 3rd generation Indian, at the handover, China did not want us to be Chinese, thankfully, Hong Kong passports existed, thus we were entitled to them. In '47, I have no doubt that my sole passport will change to a PRC one. The country has modernised and hopefully will not decline based on race.
@harry124 жыл бұрын
so u have the HK SAR passport? if u have that passport u r considered as "chinese citizen" by PRC.
@tristanlau12134 жыл бұрын
What's the colour of your passport? Is it navy blue or white?
@vinniechan4 жыл бұрын
@@harry12 a fair few sportsmen and athletes opted to give up their passport of original nationality so that they could represent Hong Kong
@黎勇輝4 жыл бұрын
@@harry12 Yes, my one and only passport
@josephtan4627 Жыл бұрын
Imagine being ruled by the British for almost one and a half century and only 50000 get UK citizenship? Pathetic!
@Guesswhokk2 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry, your details are correct (e.g. BNO) but the context are wrong. Please look up "UN resolution 2908" 1972, this define the fate of Hong Kong prior to the negotiation position between Thatcher & Den in 1982, which resulted in a BNO. By law however (beyond politics), UK have to give Hong Konger citizenship, because Hong Kong was under UK subjects before 97, therefore anyone born in HK before 97 are considered British subjects. However, most Hong Kongers was rich and want to sit it out in HK after transition in 97 rather than the costly method of emigrate to another country. Everyone knew BNO was nothing but a paperweight even back in the 90s and it was created in such that UK immigration office don't have to handle mass influx, which is worse than the Windrush Scandal. And Beijing liken BNO, because if people start leaving in HK back in 97 it would make Beijing look bad. CCP were all about "image". Since 2002, Chinese Government open up the border and have allowed NEW *50k mainland Chinese* to reside in Hong Kong every year in a population of 6-7 million. Hong Kong identity have been effectively replace from the inside, just like how they change *Tibet & Mongolia* I wish your report included this crucial point, because every Hong Kongers I have seen have "considered or considering" leaving the place that they have built for themselves as a "safe heaven" for many generations fleeing from the troubles up north a century ago. Finally Hong Kong were considered the "gateway" or "gate keeper" to mainland China (physically & financially), which is why you see a massive ports in Hong Kong, but Beijing hated this and so they copied this model as SEZ by Den in the 1980s. Hong Kong now in just an empty shell, all glass & "higher" rise buildings (demolish many old ones), but feel hollow from the inside.
@AshlandInsuranceOregon4 жыл бұрын
How interesting! Thank you, PolyMatter.
@jashimuddin88434 жыл бұрын
Why do i feel like he has the same lines for every single of his sponsors
@iDontProgramInCpp3 жыл бұрын
He might just. It's incredibly common for KZbinrs to reuse sponsorship clips
@CSCharlesIV3 жыл бұрын
love it how you sneak in the ad at the least expected moment lol. kudos on the videos :)
@gavinchan8384 жыл бұрын
Those people who tore up the BNO passports were from the pro-beijing camp. They only do it for their pro-beijing political party. Some of those passports torn were already expired. One of them even studies in the UK.
@caitlynchui48874 жыл бұрын
thank you for making this video
@attalan87324 жыл бұрын
As someone who myself supports Hong Kong in its struggles for freedom and democracy, I sense a thick and thinly veiled attempt at accusing Britain of racism. While there are undoubtedly racial undertones to laws whenever they deal with immigration, I do feel you are being particularly unfair especially around 4:50 because the truth is this: while the 'white' people of British descent from commonwealth countries can migrate to the UK any time they want (which I think is perfectly reasonable given their heritage connection to that country), they didn't. And that's the key. There was no mass migration and so those laws could stay in place with much issue. On the other hand, it is likely that a mass exodus might occur in the case of Hong Kong given the dire circumstances of their human rights struggle. Even putting that very pragmatic point aside, there is an undeniable fact that it would be easier to integrate people of British descent into British society than the people of Hong Kong. If there is anything we've learned from France, Germany, and Sweden, it is that massive influxes of extremely culturally distinct refugees result in a severe strain on the budget, and more importantly, the ghettoisation of immigrants, to their detriment. You might say, "then we shouldn't let that happen!", but it's not like the Swedish, German, or French governments wanted that to happen. It was a massive embarrassment for them. You can wish for magical integration all you want, but coming from a country where we've been trying to integrate extremely diverse cultures for centuries, it isn't that simple.
@attalan87324 жыл бұрын
Having said that, I do support the Boris government's move to make it easier for BNO holders to live and work in the UK, though I fear the socioeconomic consequences to both Britain and the political refugees.
@kevinlau77804 жыл бұрын
Thank you for spreading information about this issue. Great video👍🏻
@isaacwong14654 жыл бұрын
UK in UK history: Thomas UK in USA history: bad Thomas UK in HK history: SUPER_NICE_THOMAS
@imeevito16434 жыл бұрын
Why did I laugh at this DAMN YOU
@joel35364 жыл бұрын
This is quality content right here
@obamaprism97024 жыл бұрын
As a Brit I feel like the ultimate power move here would be to take the entire population of Hong Kong to England and just leave a ghost town
@Paintstation14 жыл бұрын
You miss the point. We don't wanna leave. Some might want to do so but most are incapable to live in the UK. We know the economy of the UK isn't that big enough to embrace us. And some of us, like me, wanna die fighting the evil CCP. The thing is if the Uk government grants us the full citizenship, it does help us a lot, not for leaving, but facing the CCP. Hong kong is a beautiful place that we Hongkongese don't wanna give it away to an totalitarian regime.
@dickiesdocos4 жыл бұрын
@@Paintstation1 Don't worry if all Hongkongers leave China has plenty of people to replace them.
@user-ri3wj6bf3f4 жыл бұрын
@@Paintstation1 数典忘祖的垃圾
@user-ri3wj6bf3f4 жыл бұрын
@@Paintstation1 起这么个垃圾名字,不会说人话就不要说话。 自己祖宗脸全让你丢尽了
@user-ri3wj6bf3f4 жыл бұрын
@@Paintstation1 没脸没皮的垃圾
@snoopyyyy4 жыл бұрын
i gotta say i really like your videos they teach me more than school
@lexffe_lol4 жыл бұрын
1. AFAIK the SAR passport does not gain any expedition when approaching the UK Border Control. (imo passing the border is as fast as BNO holders) Sidenote: sometimes BNO holders are even considered as British citizens. (border controls of some countries sometimes fail to distinguish between BC and BNO.) 2. Both passport holders need to fill in landing cards IIRC. (However, the landing card system has been removed about a year ago?) 3. I have also read stories about BNO holders gaining consular access (not in China, but anywhere else in the world basically)
@TomorrowWeLive2 жыл бұрын
Also, it's not the great wall, it's the Heavenly Gate in Tiananmen.
@sora112314 жыл бұрын
9:42 They only "tear" their BNO passport apart, not renouncing. (This is how CCP supporters acts, saying they are Chinese but always looking for alternative) i am a subscriber from HK, a BNO passport holder BNO is basically commonwealth citizen, acts the same way as a commonwealth passport Right to vote after living in UK for 6 months (Like other commonwealth citizens) plus consulate access outside of China
@amazingmoy2 жыл бұрын
I want to know your thoughts when the 50-year hand over treaty between PRC and UK in 2048.
@tsang64822 жыл бұрын
Two things... 1. Any reference to Hong Kong before 1 Jul 1997 should be with the (colonial) Hong Kong flag, not the HKSAR flag. 2. A Hongkonger with a BN(O) passport is theoretically eligible to become the Chief Executive. A criteria to become CE is to have no right of abode in a foreign country. A BNO doesn't give one the right of abode in the United Kingdom.
@renaissancebeing4 жыл бұрын
Kudos for the great video, much gratitude for bringing the issue of BNO to the light of the world. Cheers!
@PHCuber4 жыл бұрын
Hong Kong: rallies Polymatter: what’s that? I’m talking about your *passport* .
@karl-oppa52614 жыл бұрын
PHCuber pinas lang ang gumagamit ng “rally” when describing protests “protest” is the right word
@nytrex_yt74174 жыл бұрын
@Karl -oppa You can say rallies as well sometimes and you can’t correct someone if your not an expert at it
@chunchoi44344 жыл бұрын
64 memorial gathering is a rally What is going on most of the time in Hong Kong is protest.
@PHCuber4 жыл бұрын
Rallies are protests, period. I’m also from PH btw