Can you Build Muscle without Heavy Lifting?

Can you Build Muscle without Heavy Lifting? | Dr. Jeremy Loenneke

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@oceansurfable 2 ай бұрын

To we the listeners: I am a little shocked at how many negative comments there are in this thread (we kind of went off on a social media/high school bullying tour; despite two brialliant scientists confabutating at our collective benefit). True, it's a semi-boring, monotone discussion between two research professionals (but, please remember that Dr Lyon was a 20-yr researcher first, and then took that knowledge base to the clinical side when treating patients later on, which makes her very/uniquely effective), so, yes, she's pretty geeky---which is a good thing---and she wants this researcher to get some experiential background vs a purely academic/laboratory oriented perspective...so, she's utilizing her researcher's POV (putting herself in his shoes) but then, brining in her own clinical perspective (to get him to think out of the box moving fwd) and in the end, we all benefit from this (including them/other researchers, her patients!). In other words, in some ways, this is more for her, him and other researchers & clinicians (to expand their horizons but ultimately ours too not to mention their patients' behalf), although some of us lay-people actually do appreciate intense detail (I routinely have to listen 3-5+ times over 3+ days and take notes on many of these amazing podcasts so that I can fully absorb and hopefully implement as needed, since this isn't entertainment its actually science and default personal development/improvement!) ... Obviously many of us are looking for a condensed version (fair point). But, notice her closing line to her guest "thank you for answering all of "my" questions!" and he replies by thanking her for the time and being on the podcast, for having and then he thanks his lab, and mentions their ongoing work. So, do we want that "work" he's currently working on, or do we just wanna eat with our eyes, and pretend we're all Kardashians or that it's all about looks only? Or is it actually about substance? Remember also that she references "sarcopenia" which is the dreaded state of many cancer patients (dying from wasting away vs the cancer itself as cancer eats muscle to convert aminos into glucose to fuel itself) and there are other reasons for muscle loss aside from aging and western lifestyle...so, as a physician she's asking on behalf of her patients as she's NOT a frigging gym coach here to ensure you get a better pump (although she's clearly NOT opposed to that), but she's a medical doctor with patients and she was focused early on in nursing homes and the aged population (so, wake up and smell the coffee, man!!). Perhaps somebody other than the one person in the comment's section noticed that Einstein looked like a total nut job, but it was all about his big brain and today, we're all recipients of that intelligence; and thank goodness we as a nation weren't so shallow during WWII or maybe we'd be speaking a different language today (instead of English) ...note also that General Eisenhower did NOT fight in WWII on the front lines (like Gen Patton, for example), and rather utilized his leadership, strategy and other skills to "win" WWII! Meaning, this researcher doesn't have to look like Arnold to study exercise physiology, muscle growth etc., to know something about it; or actually bestow some of that knowledge onto each of us! Likewise, just because somebody has bigger muscles it doesn't make them the default expert on muscle building...(think about body types, DNA, metabolism, microbiome, attitude & intensity, injuries, disease, old age, etc, etc...we're all different). Finally, he's probably ripped and just lean and he's probably super strong (college wrestler at a good school) but as a lean body type---especially with loose clothing---it's simply too easy to make assumptions (and apparently to also make fun of him). What if he's a rock climber or a triathlete and prefers a lean physique? Even worse: most (especially on this thread) are totally unaware of the difference between fitness and health. They are NOT mutually guaranteed and don't come as a pair. Many "look" fit with so called muscles whereas others are thin (at least on the outside, yet fat "viscerally" on the inside), etc. Also, one can run marathons all day and have terrible heart disease and of have low visceral and high subcutaneous fat and be very healthy from a blood-lab perspective, and so on. Stop eating with your eyes, and get below the skin...don't be a social media troll and rather an empowered...don't just eat fish but teach others to fish!! On the flip side: to mock the young gentleman over his looks, mannerisms, etc., is truly low caliber and a waste of time for all of us...not to mention that in general, Sarcasm is truly the lowest form of wit...so, as you make fun of him, you just expose yourself...especially when he's clearly an intelligent, lucid and dedicated human who is obviously good natured (and quintessentially mid-western), but definitely a productive member of the human race; therefore, teasing him over his geographical roots/colloquialism is rather philistine (kind of the same premise for other discrimination as we can't help our sex, race, color, body type, origin of birth, upbringing, etc) not to mention, who among us will produce a more erudite or sagacious lecture on such a torturous and byzantine subject as muscle & strength growth...let alone bio-hacking it!? ... Please remember, they also spent 2 hrs of their time for not only their own benefit but also our own. Sure, not everyone is going to be super happy, or at least not all of the time (with any podcast), but, in reality, how lucky are we to have such a resource...not to mention, if you don't like the host, guest and/or subject, you can easily move on...right? Or, perhaps leave some empoweringly constructive criticism so that they/others can learn from we the audience (for the next podcast), but one thing is for sure: disrespect will get "we the listeners" absolutely zero results in the future if we can't even attempt to appreciate what goes into a 2 hr podcast between to geniuses! (days of prep and logistics etc). BTW, how does he reasonably come back in 12 mos (with new information) if all were going to do is mock him!! Think about that... Sorry to be so admonishing of any of us, publicly, but, this is indeed the public forum, and therefore, we have to give credit where credit is due (I have as have some others), and we also have to police ourselves (I'm doing that now and so have/shall others) but equally give the hosts and guests constructive feedback if we truly want to shape our learning potential (host/guest: consider well titled chapters (possibly with short descriptions), so folks on the run can tweak their listening experiences, accordingly). Remember that it's definitely okay if not actually encouraged for constructive people to complain (tactfully), but only if one is also going to be offering lucid, pragmatic solutions; otherwise it's just low-grade gossip that does absolutely NOTHING to enhance a podcast or the comment's section and definitely does NOT advance humanity in anyway, but totally wastes everyone's else's time (including that of the mediocre complainer themselves...a total lose/lose scenario!!). Personally, I'm grateful for both the host and the guest, as there was a ton of information in there (especially for older people, those infirm (like some of your elders) and others less than fully healthy (via lifestyle, DNA or various "life" incidents, birth defects etc) ...and one day, some of you "pups" (if you make it, that is), will also have to deal with older age, as well, and it's a lot different (for those of us smart enough to have made older age) than those of you age 50 or so, and below... That said, I'm truly wishing each of you the best in achieving old age as well as your optimal health, but respect for other people is part of the positive state of mind that is indeed required to have a balanced and "healthy" life! So, 'member 'dat, homie and you youngsters alike!! 💪🏽🇺🇸💪🏽🙏🏽 Respectfully, Franco -Combat Veteran -Tier 1, SOF alumnus -Cancer Survivor -Still surfing big waves (thank God)

@danieljames1065 2 ай бұрын

Saying “ well said “ never seemed so inadequate as right now. Bless you and thank you.

@oceansurfable 2 ай бұрын

I saw JFK Jr, up on the Hill (a recent podcast) and his entire testimony (he was defending the information war [fake news] they were perpetrating on him...his own party) and he took the high road, and pleaded with both sides of the isle to step up and lead, and stop the pettiness and that it starts with congress...of course he is right and even worse, they interrupted him and kept bashing him at that very same hearing...the one being held to allow him to speak publicly and defend his self... Dreadful how un-wise,shallow and rude we the people and our leaders have become. It shall be our overall demise, as a nation (if we don't learn to communicate with decency, respect and a mutual focus for a win/win, which of course requires some form of mutual compromise...). Anyway, thx for the comment DJ, I'm glad at least one person read it. It's a start. Wishing you well on your own health journey. 💪🏽🇺🇸

@SilkyShish Күн бұрын

Thank you for your comment.

@MikeW-t6l 2 ай бұрын

It's all about nutritional biochemistry, I recommend reading “Health and Beauty Mastery” that book is a real eye opener . I completely changed my habits

@meditim2032 2 ай бұрын

Exactly

@s.wilson5675 2 ай бұрын

Food for thought:- High load vs. low load exercise, consider some Chinese Southern style (Hakka) kung fu exercises that are not high load, do not particularly develop much muscle mass, yet yield considerable 'strength' in combat and many masters appear to live long lives.

@chrater8192 2 ай бұрын

I use blood flow restriction all the time. 71 years old has changed my life. I use Kaatsu the originator of Blood Flow Restriction. They have done a lot of research on it and could answer a lot of the questions you asked. If you use the cycle mode something that only they have you are very safe. Before they ever released it in the U.S. they did studies in 2004 to 2014 in a cardiac hospital in Japan. Call them and they will send the research to you.

@joelpineda2042 2 ай бұрын

Actually thats when i literally started seeing results. When i dropped all the heavy weights and started to concentrate on time under tension. But if ur into powerlifting heavy weights is a must.

@elainewestlakeptdptma686 2 ай бұрын

I use KAATSU as well on myself and have gotten tremendous results. I am also a pediatric physical therapist and have used it on a low cycle on children with cerebral palsy with results in temperature change ( no longer cold extremities) and well as increased range of motion and movement of the spastic muscle.

@TheUnlikelyToad 2 ай бұрын

Interesting... 42 with Cerebral Palsy and have played around with it, but have not made the connection with increased warmth to the extremities. Is this more of a temporary feature or longer lasting with repeated use? Fwiw, I get a reduction in spasticity just by weight training regularly and fatiguing muscles in general.

@elainewestlakeptdptma686 2 ай бұрын

@@TheUnlikelyToad This is with kids who are non ambulatory. Usually it's temporary unless it's done daily. Other children with CP who are ambulatory they do improve in strength and function with resistive training, as well as whole body vibration and functional electrical stimulation

@tektoniks_architects 2 ай бұрын

I can always tell the difference between someone who trains with heavy weights vs. someone who trains with lighter weights, re: muscle density. Please also remember that you body has limited recovery ability, meaning: the average person can increase their body strength by 300% on the average, but you can only increase your recovery ability by about 50% on the average. That means, the bigger and stronger you get, especially when training to failure, the more likely you will overtrain. This is why training longer with more sets and lighter weights will eventually hit a progress roadblock with regards to your recovery ability. As you get bigger and stronger, you need to increase your intensity of training, but diminish your length of workout.

@dant3232 2 ай бұрын

Muscle density? Nonsense

@tektoniks_architects 2 ай бұрын

@@dant3232 Broader activation of fibers is a function of the total work load imposed. Muscles are made of strands of fibers. Muscles only utilize the minimum number of fibers to accomplish the task at hand. Increasing the cross sectional area of every fiber is what contributes to overall muscular size and density. The more fibers that are activated, the broader and more dense the muscle becomes. The heavier the load, the more fibers are called upon to perform the task. The greater the stress, the more fibers are used, the greater the cross sectional improvement, the greater the volume of the muscle increases. Nonsense my @ss.

@dant3232 2 ай бұрын

@@tektoniks_architects They do not look different. Your saying you can look at one persons muscle and tell how heavy he lifts? Nonsense.

@tektoniks_architects 2 ай бұрын

@@dant3232 Its very easy, if you use your eyes. People who train heavier are thicker, larger, and have fuller muscles from insertion point to insertion point. Actually its very obvious.

@dant3232 2 ай бұрын

@@tektoniks_architects like fat powerlifters?

@tommy92660 2 ай бұрын

James Steele, James Fisher, Doug McGuff

@Jimnbvgy 2 ай бұрын

It is not muscle mass It is lean muscle mass x low body fat ratio x constant m😅vement = longevity As an aged care nurse I have been privy for years to see who lives long who lives well and who die younger and how they die The lighter and more flexible you are in mind and body You live long live well and die real fast Big difference to people with mass of any kind

@ash9x9 2 ай бұрын

Fully agree! This doctor is all over the internet, does she get time even to practice real medicines!?

@jaybeebee9288 2 ай бұрын

I would be very curious to know how many people you've cared for, or even known, who in their old age had good movement, good amounts of lean muscle BUT were clinically obese.

@StotanEly 2 ай бұрын

Body by Science

@MarthaHenson-zp1kw 2 ай бұрын

Too many "ahs" for me to continue listening

@MarthaHenson-zp1kw 2 ай бұрын

BTW Blood Flow Restriction to any other organ system in the body is pathological why would it be any different for the muscular system, reperfusion injury is actually 'a thing'.

@satorsatori8793 2 ай бұрын

Please just answer the question! yes or no! thanks

@andynonimuss6298 2 ай бұрын

I'm nervous about Blood Flow Restriction because of the possibility of blood clots. I've been training for most of my life, and I can definitively say there's NO such thing as training for Hypotrophy vs. Strength. The two are relative to each other. If you increase in strength you will increase the muscle in size. It's impossible to train or target for one or the other. In bodybuilding, the ONLY way you can gain more size, is to gain more strength. I'm so tired of this myth being falsely perpetuated over and over year after year!

@esinfa 2 ай бұрын

A bodybuilder can be much bigger than a powerlifter (usually is) but can't move as much weight as a powerlifter. A powerlifter can be stronger than a bodybuilder without that much muscle. Sorry, you are incorrect.

@andynonimuss6298 2 ай бұрын

@@esinfa Comparing two separate people does not make your argument. Strength and size are "relative" to where each person starts. If that bodybuilder wants to continue to increase his size, he must get stronger to do so. If that powerlifter gains more strength his muscle size will increase relative to that strength increase. Trying to compare two different people to each other like that, does not work because we all know natural strength is at a different starting point for everyone. I've been lifting weights since I was 15 years old and the only way I ever gain muscle size is to increase my strength. It's a simple and straight forward fact that is undeniable. There is simply no way possible for me to gain muscle size without increasing in strength.

@paigeallen7479 2 ай бұрын

WARNING - You may finish watching and think, well, those were TWO HOURS I'll never get back. Most common answers in this podcast: We really don't know. I don't know. I don't know that answer. Maybe. We've not found that to be the case. That's an unanswered question. There's no evidence for that. I don't think we know for sure. We didn't find anything.

@napua5217 2 ай бұрын

His bangs are cute

@tommy92660 2 ай бұрын

Exercise is intrinsic

@freightking1757 2 ай бұрын

All I can hear is him saying "ummm" before and after almost every sentence. This seems like we are really overtaking strength training. Who is paying for a "blood flow restriction" study?

@theresatomasello1843 2 ай бұрын

The Beatles revived!

@modernworldnews1 2 ай бұрын

thats one hell of a haircut XD

@felipearbustopotd 2 ай бұрын

IF ( and that is a very BIG if ) looks are anything to go by, Dr. Jeremy Loenneke isn't lifting anything heavier than a pencil. Sorry to say, I lasted 38 mins before ( bailing out ) needing to lift something heavier than a graphite writing implement.

@mikemiller2530 2 ай бұрын

I don’t mean to pick on this particular guy, but this would be a 20 minute interview if you could cut out all the “uummm, uummmm, ummmm”. I know we all do it, (including myself) but once you notice it, it’s hard to hear anything else 😕

@chrissycorazon 2 ай бұрын

lol I like how he seems more real!! Instead of super media trained haha

@robertsnow9328 2 ай бұрын

He is jacked.

@napua5217 2 ай бұрын

I know I was shocked, I thought he was gonna rip out of that shirt. Like bro, at least wear the right size shirt if you’re gonna have muscles that big.