Can you LIVE IN MEXICO ON SOCIAL SECURITY in 2023?

[@TangerineTravels]

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[@bodyloverz30]

San Miguel de Allende, you should do a video about high-end living here.

[@garyglanz403]

Yeah they want our crack attics. Don't think the lack of welfare would work for USA people living in Mexican streets.

[@bodyloverz30]

@@jaimeperez9391 That's his job, how he and his ex wife make a living: your point is taken though.

[@Tiburon876]

Where in Mexico do you live..?

[@sonyou98]

How about $1061 U.S. a month?

[@larryhansen4334]

Good stuff you're producing these days. You've taken the channel to another level. You're killing it dude, keep it up!

[@martyg3757]

Jordan, you’ve definitely chosen the extremes in Mexico for your comparison. Cabo is so overpriced because it caters to wealthy California tourists. The poor locals live in remote areas that although inexpensive are unacceptable as retirement homes due to lack of social activities. Small cities provide the stimulation that retirees need at inexpensive prices.

[@jamescalifornia2964]

Interesting information. Thanks 👌

[@vicenteBeraud]

GO BACK TO YOUR F COUNTRY FOREIGN INVADERS ...................................................

[@cindyk3076]

My Social Security is only $1,000/month which is why I'm trying to find work online so that I am able to do small trips in order to see the beauty that Mexico has to offer.

[@williamtiffee3799]

It's a broad range (i.e. From 900ish, to around 3.3k. USD per month?) so I seriously doubt most considering relocating southward, etc. are getting 1500- 3000 monthly (hence the California, etc. "Exoduses...") but see why he choose the median income valuation... to " keep it simple," here.) I'd be asking cities, to resorts, developments, etc. to 'sponsor' (or comp?) my videos, mentioning them. Particularly if I also had, good drone footage.

[@cryptogirliebtc3987]

You can live comfortably in Mexico 🇲🇽 if you plan it and buy a house or save money to pay off a house in Mexico while you are living in the US and working so the house is paid off by the time you’re retired. The Social Security will be enough to have a comfortable life if you have a house paid off.

[@wernerdanler2742]

I find it hard to believe that $1800 is the average monthly social security. I had to retire at 62 due to a stroke, and I only get less than $1200. I have to live on that here in the US.

[@craiggallup5706]

Average is different than median. In any case whatever the number lots of people make much more and lots make much less. I know of people getting 800. BTW that qualifies for the Nicaraguan retirement visa.

[@hugofigueroa1292]

If you retire at 66 years old you can get the $1800/month.

[@mtngrl5859]

The top figure for Social Security is 3300 and the lowest is $900/month, so that's how figures get calculated.

[@williamtiffee3799]

@@mtngrl5859 They are also based- upon what you EARNED (and were taxed...) during your working life. (Hence, the broad range...)

[@mtngrl5859]

@@williamtiffee3799 Exactly, but my point was top retirement income is $3300/month . So, if you made 1 mil a year or $100,000/year its limited to the top range. If one was a spouse and never worked, their amount is around $900/month. So, not all social security income is actually earned. My other point is if someone was receiving $3300 month in benefits, they likely had a high income and had other assets ( real estate, 401k etc), so they are less price sensitive. Many people from the US, Canada sell their properties and buy a home in Mexico, so by doing so are already permanent residents, so it is very easy to live on social security if they already own a home.

[@dovygoodguy1296]

For cost of living you factor in the strengthening peso at 18 to the dollar and getting stronger and the 10% increase in cost of living since last year throughout the economy.

[@chepep0n]

Well if you are willing to do things like clean your own house, mostly cook your own food and live in a middle class neighborhood on an affordable small city, the answer is YES. That's more than enough. Now if you want to live like Jordan (posh neighborhood, eat at fancy restaurants, travel to touristic places and feeding laska better food than most Mexicans can afford) the answer is NO LOL

[@TangerineTravels]

If you live in Pachuca like the example I gave in this video, you could live in a nice home, have a housekeeper (maybe not living with you but coming once or twice per week), eat out every day, and sometimes at fancy restaurants. I think one could live like me on $2000 a month or less in Pachuca. Minus the travel. The videos isn´t exactly a representation of how we live. For example, in the videos I like to show a variety of budgets. So in one video we´ll get street food and in another we´ll eat at a fancy restaurant. And as for travel, well that´s more expensive but for me it´s a necessary business expense.

[@mjc42701]

He has covered the same topics you list, Jose Arteaga also has a channel he has done a video with Jordan talking about this, I myself would clean my own home and cook the majority of meals, I live a modest life in the states and that wouldn't change if I moved to Mexico, the draw for me is the people,culture, food, weather and the way people there enjoy what is important, faith and family, society is the way the states used to be 70 years ago, which to me is a wonderful thing, I hope that fancy folks decide to stay in the U.S., I never want to see Mexico change in those ways, it is what makes it beautiful to me.

[@mtngrl5859]

@@mjc42701 Actually, Mexico has changed a great deal ( as has the US/Europe etc) since I first visited as a teenager in the 1970's. Since the 1990's the number of divorces has increased 6 times, so its not quite as traditional as it once was. Sometimes people from the US are myopic, there are social issues in many countries.

[@martyg3757]

There must be a distinction made here between retirement living and vacationing. Retirement living in USA or CAN is what is being replaced by the permanent move to MEX. If you expect a 12 month per year vacation in MEX you’re out of luck on a pension.

[@mtngrl5859]

@@martyg3757 That's one of the big differences btw being a traveler rather than resident in a given country.

[@mjc42701]

Great job on what you can afford depending where you live, yes some things are less expensive in Mexico but you still need to live within your means.

[@RobertWilson-ou1ie]

Very insightful. I have lived in CDMX for 13 years. You are spot on about Pachuca. It is very good value. It does get a bit windy at times but a very good choice for value.

[@GuruChaz]

This is very good info, especially for those who haven't saved anything for retirement.

[@TheSkatereel]

Such a timely video for my parents who just came back from San Luis de la Paz, GT, doing house shopping with most homes they are looking at at the 1.4M pesos range. Looking at FB marketplace, they can easily rent a really nice place in a gated community for about $400. Really trying to convince them to rent instead of buy….😢. They are dual Citizens already and will live on SS at about $2100

[@vicenteBeraud]

GO BACK TO YOUR F COUNTRY FOREIGN INVADERS ...................................................

[@GaryJones2012]

At the current exchange rate $1827 USD is $2498 CAN. The average Canadian pension, even with the GIS (Guaranteed income Supplement) is $1942. With the increase to the minimum wage in Mexico the new required income to qualify for temporary residency is now $1946 USD, or $2661 CAN, just over $700 a month more than our pensions. Back in 2017 I barely managed to squeak through to qualify and got my temporary residency and loved my two years in Ajijic, but there is no way I qualify now. Forced back to Canada after I lost one of my pensions because I had been out of the country more than six months I miss Ajijic every single day. The weather. The local people. The culture. The festivals. The parades. The music. The perfect place to live out your life.

[@alexialanda27]

Thank you for sharing. I did not know this.

[@robertlehman9411]

Also a Canadian with interest in Living in Mexico & just Retired, did know now about loss to income if we stay Too long. OHIP yes. Looking at Tapachula, I hope it is OK retirement winter location. Any Pointers for new Canadian to Mexico. Thanks

[@jvahl8747]

Gary, why didn't you just fly to Belize, Guatamala, etc. BEFORE your 6 months expired - for a quicky vacation and return to MX getting a new visitor visa???

[@gavnonadoroge3092]

@GaryJones2012 how about a lawsuit to get the pension back

[@SuperFlatrock]

If all you are getting is Government of Canada benefits, you will have trouble living well anywhere.

[@MrBowmanmt]

I get $3300 a month in social security. Yes you can live on that easily especially if you have a spouse making the same. Then you're really on easy Street

[@mtngrl5859]

That's the top figure for social security. Typically if you get this amount, one likely has lots of assets, so price is less of an issue to begin with.

[@RishayanPorMexico]

If I got 3300 USD a month, I would be able to RULE the rural village where I live. No joke!

[@patriciaruthescutialerma1143]

What happens is that many, many mexicans live together as a family, everybody works and contributes to the household expenses and also they have a side hustle like taxi driver, sell stuff, or a secondary job.

[@garyglanz403]

One problem you haven't considered, Medicare which doesn't work in Mexico is automatically removed from social security. Our cheap supplemental doesn't work there. And there's the every 120 days fly out to renew visa. The last time we were in Mexico City we stayed in the Roma district. Wow! That was expensive.

[@garyglanz403]

I know a former employee of my nephew who lived in mexico city. I thought he said 120 days. I could be wrong. I've stayed in 2 areas of Mexico City and 2 areas of Cancun. The Roma district is where my wife and I shared a meal for 120 dollars. WOW!

[@InMyBrz]

every 180 days you mean ?

[@angelaoliver7776]

Visitor visa is 180 days I'm Australian so I will have to find a way to get medical coverage it's too far to return to free medical in Australia. Not sure what to do at this time.

[@wibli]

As a mexican living in a small non tourist city near the border with the states, I can tell you that a monthly income of 1000 USD would be enough for basic living. 2000 USD a month would give you some luxuries.

[@carlogagliano8162]

I've lived in PV for 11 years. I live on 1/2 pension ($1600 month) Month. I live like a middle class Mexicans.

[@rayvogensen2983]

The question of whether you can live on $1,833 depends on so many factors. First, how do you want to live? If you want to live in Mexico City in a luxurious apartment with servants, it might be very hard, but if you want to live in a non-touristic city (Mérida, Puebla, Oaxaca), you can live very well. A quick look at Numbeo will show you that Mexico, despite recent increases in prices, is still very affordable. If the average salary in Mexico is $610.00 a month, you would be considered rich by most Mexicans.

[@RishayanPorMexico]

Very rich. 1. The majority of Mexicans are NOT middle class, like in the US. 2. The majority of Mexicans DO NOT earn 600 USD a month. The majority earn about 400 USD a month or less. ( about 8000 pesos or less per month).

[@whererugoing]

Jordan, I'd love to see you do a current video on health insurance options for an expat

[@angelfire402]

Thank you. I plan on retiring in Mexico. I am starting to prepare myself. The advantage I have I do not smoke, drink, or gamble.

[@martiruiz]

33000 is a lot of money with that amount you can live like a king in Mexico in a small town

[@hfk1001]

Jordan that was a great video. I think your recent mix of video topics is outsranding, but over the years I've noticed that you shine the most in videos like this, i.e. data driven topics. This one took imagination and smarts. Thanks man. Also noticed that one of those nice properties in pachuca had concertina wire. Guess that's how it is down there. Got a chuckle out of that.

[@jdredwine7224]

Individual SSDI is $914 per month. That is the full time minimum, thus even the minimum full time benefits would have you comfortably in middle class, but like always it depends on location just like how $75,000 in NYC, LA, SF, Seattle, etc is a struggling wage, but in Buffalo, Cleveland, El Paso, and San Antonio you would be living good with that. Luckily in Mexico they don't have Buffalo or Cleveland weather and could live in paradise easily for $914 per month if you avoid certain extremely overcrowded and over touristy places like Cabos, Cancun, Mexico City, Sayulita, etc.

[@philschiavone101]

Yeah, nobody makes minimum wage. 3,000 to 4000 pesos a week is about what everyone I know makes.

[@therehastobesomethingmoore]

My wife and I are 55 and 60 and traveling, currently in Nicaragua, where we are spending about $1200-$1300/month, but we have 3 senior dogs and about $300/month is food, vet, meds for our 3 furbabies. So we spend about $1000/month TOTAL. Next we plan to go to Guatemala and then Mexico. Mexico has a lot of great cities…research and find an inexpensive city. We plan to go to San Cristobal de las Casas. Cool mountain temps so no a/c bill.

[@therehastobesomethingmoore]

@Kam Here in Matagalpa, there is little or no AirBnB at all. But in the tourist areas you will find AirBnB

[@izravision]

You rule for this video!!!!!!!

[@RishayanPorMexico]

Of course, you can live in Mexico on retirement social security. I only get about 600 a month SS and am easily able to pay rent and food. HOWEVER. I live with, guess what, Mexicans!! Most ex-pat americans ( mostly middle class) who come to live in Mexico, DO NOT live with, or as, Mexicans. They live separate in american style apartments, or gated communities and mingle very, very little, if at all, with the vast majority of common Mexicans. In the areas where they live, there is increasing resentment from the natives, as they are causing rent and food prices to rise. I purposely avoid ex-pat communities like the plague. I live humblely in a small rural community, certainly without disrupting the local economy. I own my concrete block small humble house, which cost me about 700 USD to have built. I send my neighbor about 25 USD a month to watch over my house when I'm not there. When I am there, I give her about 25 USD a week for electricty, water, wifi, and other utilities, as I am connected on to their lines.( that's about 100 USD a month) for everything except food. I mostly cook my own food, so I spend about 50 USD a week on food. That still leaves me about 300 USD a month for pleasure, on my 600 USD a month SS. For poor people such as myself, it sure beats living in the woods or under a bridge in the US!!!!

[@nflegal49]

Must remember that in Mexico, families live together & that helps stretch out their incomes. Americans tend to want to live alone or with a spouse.

[@RishayanPorMexico]

Yup... that's exactly it....Most americans are quite anti-social, the exact opposite of here. Although I own my small shack( house), I live on a communal property with 3 other adults, 5 kids, 4 or 5 dogs and cats, about 15 goats, 2 pigs, a couple turkeys, and about 10 loose chickens. I love it! Every so often I get to eat freshly killed free range chicken, goat or pig. When they have some fiesta, I always get invited( free food, drink, and music). If I feel lazy and don't feel like walking to the store, I give one of the kids 5 pesos( about a quarter) to go for me. If I need sonething done in my house, or run out of something, I just yell out my door for help. Although the dogs aren't mine, they protect my house, just like my neighbors. It's great!

[@thebangkokconnection4080]

The sad part is many older workers live on just under $1000 a month as they worked for $3 to 5 dollars back in the day

[@timmartin8191]

Great information Thanks!

[@CB-dl6cz]

Very informative!

[@guardiola-mezam2499]

Thank you for very informative uncomplicated video .

[@mypphh97]

Central Mexico is cheap as long as you don’t pick a tourist city but anyone interested in moving to Mexico should check out cities in northern Mexico. They are even cheaper ( stay away from border cities) Private health care is way too expensive in Mexico but good alternative here is IMSS as already discussed in the video unless you have pre existing conditions then you are not covered either. That’s why I like cities in the north where you can take a bus ( depending where you live it can be 5 hours +) or plane and in one hour you are in the US. If you have Medicare and a supplemental policy you are covered in Mexico in case of an emergency. I do live there 3 months of the year then I come back after the summer is over to the US. it’s nice to detox from all the drama going on here but Mexico political landscape it’s the same. Btw great research. Thanks

[@soulshine8531]

I’m outside Monterrey it is not cheap.

[@BermudaBeachSurf]

I AM SECOND VIEWER FROM MERIDA MEX. ALWAYS GOOD VIDEO

[@TangerineTravels]

Welcome! Thanks for watching!

[@Rosiber]

Homeowners in Mexico may have a different definition for items you’ve labeled as "cheap" or "garbage"

[@kentonjoegibsonii2211]

Thanks tangerine dream. Finding a beautiful mexicana will make your life happy and help you with residency. The women here are very sweet and traditional. You cannot be on SSI outside of the USA for too long, but SSDI and Retirement yes.

[@t0kigh02t7]

I watched a video of a women who lives in matzulan with$2000 us. A month. She lives very comfortably similar to someone who is middleclass retired in Arizona or Florida.

[@kellyname5733]

Be sure to check the publish date. If it is not in the last 3 months then it is not accurate.

[@eyesea123]

What a great job you're doing on your channel, Jordan. I'm certain many people will really appreciate all this information. Great help!

[@iNsTaNtpUdDiNhEaD]

I had heard that you have to either have a couple hundred thousand dollars or else make significantly more than what Social Security pays, in order to obtain legal residency in Mexico. That would tend to negate everything you talked about in this video about being able to afford to live there if you are not permitted to live there!

[@InMyBrz]

wrong

[@iNsTaNtpUdDiNhEaD]

@@InMyBrz Yeah, I found out in a subsequent video it's not that difficult. At least not yet.

[@miguelrodriguez-ht3ct]

good analisis, I think living on social security is very possible

[@kaiballington55]

Good analysis.

[@BuceriasRodHardy]

Majority of Mexicans don't and never have worked for Minimum Wages. Per a recent articles that I read from the US, the average social security check overall in the United States is only $1480 US dollars per month

[@elsanto8879]

Pachuca is where all my family is from my dad’s side. He was born there. My wife and I are seriously considering Tulancingo tho. 4 and a half years to go! Can’t wait!

[@RishayanPorMexico]

I'm in Pachuca right at this moment, and it's quite safe, excellent climate, generally inexpensive, and easy transport to most places. What I don't like though is that there are too damn many cars and rich people. It's getting to be sort of like the US, except that the people are 100% nicer. At the end of the rainy season, I'm going back to my rural village, where it's much more peaceful.

[@silverliner4894]

Cabot has become an extension of Southern California. Going up the road to La Paz can save you some bucks or should I say pesos. I'm still torn between Puerto Penasco and San Carlos/ Guaymas. I like them both for different reasons

[@tljcfm]

You were awesome in Superbad!

[@amarilloaristocrat8435]

I receive $2,300 a month but to qualify for a temporary visa, $2,600 per month is required.

[@mtngrl5859]

Depends on what city you apply for residency for. If you are applying from California, that's the figure. However, if you go to Texas ( I think its Mc Allen) its $1750/month.

[@americasanchez7516]

I like watching this videos for learning English

[@rickybrunet2852]

But Jordan, what’s the point if you can’t get temp residency with $1,800.00 and you don’t want to get married and don’t have any significant savings?

[@InMyBrz]

thousands do the 180 day in and out thing for years without a visa

[@angelaoliver7776]

​@@InMyBrz Wow how do they get medical coverage?

[@andrewmarkmusic]

Escaping winter for 6 months?

[@ginacardarella]

Love your video great infor however I see it a lot more reasonably priced and other little Villages not trying to live in a party town

[@alfonsomartinez5934]

Jordan 1800 usd o 33,000 mxn no es mucho dinero en Mexico y entiendo que en USA es muy poco , yo recomiendo sean 2 personas una pareja de amigos o novios para juntar ambas seguridades sociales y ahí si podrían vivir mejor esto CDMX

[@victoriajimenez1703]

Si no pagas renta ni hipoteca, consideras que $30,000 pesos si sea una buena cantidad, o cuánto sería bueno?

[@alfonsomartinez5934]

@@victoriajimenez1703 es súper super súper larga la explicación que te daría y la verdad estoy en este momento indispuesto a convencerte o compartir mi punto de vista , pero te puedo decir que si 30 mil pesos es muy poco dinero necesitas mínimo el doble tal y como lo puse en mi primer comentario Saludos

[@samo8204]

Thank you Jordan! Have you done any videos for people who want to retire to a bicycle friendly beach town? My Wife and I want a beach town that's mostly (bad knees) flat and one where we can live without a car.

[@TangerineTravels]

Mazatlan would be great for that! Check out this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hWKlgH6JoLCUm68

[@amoss3035]

Any major websites you’ve seen that don’t work in Mexico and work fine in the US? Love your work buddy!

[@TangerineTravels]

For many US government websites you have to be located in the US. Some banking sites and apps. Streaming services will have different content or not work at all. Many websites are in Spanish. For example, visit Yahoo and all of the articles are written for Mexico and everything is in Spanish.

[@amoss3035]

@@TangerineTravels cool, thanks for the reply Jordan!

[@martyg3757]

Most sites can be reached using a VPN.

[@RishayanPorMexico]

What I don't like is the damn Walmart website. No matter how I try to configure it, it insists on giving me Walmart Mexico, when I want Walmart USA, as I constantly go back and forth, and sometimes need to order things for my US address, even though I am in MX. Amazon, however, will let me use their US website.

[@gailvial]

My question is, do the locals welcome ex-pats or do they want ex-pats to stay away to keep the prices affordable for them. We seem to have somewhat of an unfair advantage. Americans don’t want to price them out of their own city. Sort of like New Yorkers moving to Florida causing the housing market to explode.

[@tn18977]

Do Mexicans worry about lowering US wage levels before taking work in under the table in the US?

[@RishayanPorMexico]

Excellent, well thought out comment. Today, more than ever before, Mexicans are very price conscious. Prices are rising DAILY. I know, I just came from the supermarket, where a couple items I bought are higher priced today than they were 3 days ago! Rich and middle class americans moving here are certainly NOT helping that situation. Mexicans are fully aware of that, and are very sensitive to that. So far, there has not really been too much anti- immigrant violence ( except against central americans and haitians moving through the country). But, to tell you the truth, I do see that changing, as more and more rich americans move into the country. ( rich according to Mexicans, not according to americans). I purposefully don't live anywhere near ex-pat communities to avoid that problem. The vast majority of Mexicans are NOT middle class. The vast majority of american ex-pats ARE middle class. Go figure!

[@RishayanPorMexico]

​@@tn18977 funny.....you know damn well that Mexicans in the US are NOT lowering the wage levels. In reality, wages in the US have been steadily rising to absurd levels, thanks to the democommies.

[@kellyname5733]

Gentrification in Mexico is caused by the HUGE emerging middle class of Mexican citizens. Foreigners account for about 2-5% country wide of the real estate purchases. People that are unhappy always look for someone to blame for their circumstances. Mexico is kind to foreigners as long as they are kind back. Nobody likes a jerk no matter what part of the world you are in.

[@petermaddern9607]

You can live on ss, but you cannot get residency on that amount of income.

[@InMyBrz]

unless you are over 65

[@kellyname5733]

Over stay your tourist visa and dont leave the country for a year or more and then apply for temp. residency. People do this often. It has risks but...

[@alabi2k542]

Not everyone makes 1800 a month on Social Security. I bring in about $1100 because I had to collect early.

[@MatthewMoeykens]

Why didn't anyone tell me Michael Cera was doing youtube videos? You look great Michael!

[@dissidentfairy4264]

I would think it would be playing Russian roulette for older couples on SS to over-extend themselves by paying higher rent based on two incomes unless they have a huge savings or some other form of income. The reality is one could die and the other one find themselves in a place they no longer can afford.

[@Tjl887]

If one partner dies, the living spouse picks up their passed spouse’s ss imcome.

[@MargowilsonWilson]

But, one can't qualify for Temp. or Permanent Residency because of the financial requirements living on SS. 😢 Cabo is not an option! Too hot and too $. Thanks for all of the informative info!

[@beatricebraswell4677]

I'm confused because I thought you needed like $2700 a month For residency. How do you live in MX on an $1800/month SS.

[@Stoney_Snark]

I do just fine in Zona Libre on just over the figures you sited. I even have a small amount I can save for travel or emergencies. Thank Jordan!!

[@WalterKitchenman]

The Mexicans may have nuclear families living under one roof - and a home they probably own. So you probably have three salaries (possibly more) under one roof, with no rental expense.

[@RishayanPorMexico]

Yup......the vast majority of Mexicans DO NOT rent.

[@uriahheep8470]

I would have to dip into my 401k, after my 1200 SS. Thanks for a great video.

[@gailvial]

Thanks!

[@TangerineTravels]

Thanks a lot, Gail!!

[@evasimon5989]

If you retired and are on social security you still have to meet those income requirements?

[@MichaelGiordano777]

Of course, you do. That is a really silly question. The bottom line is you have to meet those Mexican income requirements you ask about. They don't want the bums down there anymore that spend very little money and take inexpensive apartments from Mexicans. Can you blame them? Think about it. They have a great culture and history. Who are we to ruin it for them?

[@jena2664]

Only problem Medicare will not cover your medical issues in Mexico except for emergency at the ER. But if you are a government employee in the states some insurance companies do cover in Mexico. It depends on your insurance.

[@TangerineTravels]

You can also get private or public health insurance in Mexico. If you´re a legal resident, you can get IMSS for something like 50 bucks a month which will cover you for everything, even pre-exisiting conditions. Also, a lot of people choose to go without insurance because care is so much more affordable here relative to the US. Some others choose to live in a place where it´s close enough to the US to get back there for any healthcare needs.

[@jena2664]

@@TangerineTravels how do get IMSS. My father in law is a us resident but Mexican citizen and he has issues on getting it. Is there a link.

[@jena2664]

​​@@TangerineTravels You have a great show. I am thinking of moving to Mexico. I have a pension of 5000 a month and real estate investment income. The United States is getting worst with inflation and politics of nuts in the right. The good part my USA insurance covers in good hospitals in Mexico and as well doctors. You are moving me to move to Mexico. My wife is Mexican and misses her country. Keep up with both of you in crating great KZbin channel.

[@ShauninParadise]

@@jena2664 If your wife is Mexican everything becomes easier, especially home ownership along the coast ;). Make the move :)

[@toncho8981]

@@jena2664 And the nuts on the left. My wife is from Mexico but doesn't seem to want to go there except to vacation.

[@dianacook6337]

Good video. Thank you

[@naadiramubarak4593]

Keep in mind that most Mexicans don’t live alone. Families may have several adults earning a salary. Which makes sense. Many adult children in mexico don’t leave home until they marry and they contribute to the household budget. So, keep that in mind when comparing.

[@RishayanPorMexico]

Yup

[@crizz610]

social security gets cut off when you leave the country for more than 30 days... depending which type

[@tracymorgan5386]

Regular social security does not get cut off no matter how long you live in Mexico or any country outside the USA but I believe SSI disability income can be cut off.

[@crizz610]

@@tracymorgan5386 I am on ODSP and it really depends on your caseworker. Mine is amazing and just asks i return home once every 3 months during the 5-6 months i live here in winter. She said its in the charter that even if i am disabled i have the right to travel. and also seek medical opinions elsewhere. But yes some can risk losing it if they leave the country for 300 days or 2 years without coming back.

[@gailvial]

Thank you so much for this information. I appreciate the research you do and how easily explained. 😊

[@anna_m59]

There is a local price, a expats price and tourists price! The different very big between each of it.

[@jamescalifornia2964]

Don't forget the Gringo price 💸 😉

[@jamestakashiro5660]

NO, IF YOU LIVE LIKE A MEXICAN YOU CAN, BUT IF YOU LIKE TO LIVE A LITTLE UP CLASS NO. GO TO SOUTH EAST ASIA YOU REALLY CAN , ITS FAR , BUT YOUR MONEY WILL GO FAR, THEN IN MEXICO, MEXICO IS NOT CHEAP AS PEOPLE THINK, I BEEN HERE FOR 7 MONTHS FOR WORK.

[@RishayanPorMexico]

I agree...don't come here, go there!...we have enough ex-pats here as is!

[@AlexRCarlson]

Easily live on that if you're in the correct area.

[@TangerineTravels]

Agreed. I think in the vast majority of the country it would be easy living

[@frankamador8434]

Dang! Cabo is very expensive. I am planing on moving to Rivera Maya sometime soon! I hope is not as expensive as Cabolol

[@cynthialayman5303]

Of course if you want to live in tourist area but what about renting a apartment in smaller towns

[@soulshine8531]

I just moved outside of Monterrey which is not a cheap place. I don’t know how Mexicans do it. But i am having a difficult time making it on 1750/month. Reason 1. I have animals to feed and date forces and i can’t ignore the starving ones around me so I’m feeding many cats and some dogs. And i need more than an apartment a small house with yard and one that allows pets. 2. I am used to eating non pesticided and herbicided food. I cannot find any decent produce here except at HEB and Costco. I’m figuring much of Mexico’s organic produce is exported. There’s so much junk food and soft drinks everywhere. I always prepare food at home-no animal products. My rent here is about 500. My US phone and data for IPad is 125.00. I have a small storage left in the states till i know I’m staying.. it’s also more difficult if your by yourself 2 people obviously halves basic living. I came here for rock climbing and especially because i had friends. I have problems because I cannot stand being walled in.. very claustrophobic. Needless to say I’m looking for where to go. ✌🏼 enjoy the videos! Thanks!

[@InMyBrz]

if you are claustrophobic live on the coast, is wide open so you don't feel squeezed AND stay away from high rise buildings. I am claustrophobic and HATE ELEVATORS

[@RishayanPorMexico]

Jajajaja....your comment made me laugh, with all due respect. You are WAY WAY too americanized. Sorry, but Mexico is STILL a hard knocks macho nation where you have to be tough, tolerant, patient and flexable. You would never survive in the wild west state of Guerrero where I live.

[@tracymorgan5386]

See if you can make extra money online or part time job.

[@InMyBrz]

Interesting .... I am an FAA aircraft mechanic You mentioned some aviation companies near where you live, where is that ? You have specific names other than Boeing ??

[@TangerineTravels]

They’re by the Querétaro airport. If you search for the Querétaro airport on Google maps and just scroll around looking at the various businesses you’ll see them. There’s Airbus and Bombardier. And various suppliers such as Safran Aircraft Engines, Meggitt, PCC, AGM Durmont.

[@InMyBrz]

@@TangerineTravels Interesting ... when I come to visit, will have to check them out. I understand I can make over $2500 usd a month in MX with these high tech jobs, wonder if they'd hire me ?

[@carloscarlin114]

Just a thing, using the minimum wage in Mexico is kinda useless to explain things, almost no one actually makes it, historically it was only used for the measures of certain payments that you have to done to the government for different reasons like taxes, paying traffic tickets, mortgages, economic penalization to private companies and other kind of dealings with the government, like let's said I want to get a new birth certificate, it would cost me "one minimum wage" or 102 pesos back in the day or if a ran a red light, the ticket would be like 20 minimum wages or around 2000 pesos, if the minimum wage went up I'd have to pay more to the government for both things, now imagine for people who had to pay their mortgage how much it would affect them, which is why it was always kept officially kinda low so to no impact people that hard when having to pay for those kind of transactions, of course it was a terrible system but it was only until recently that the UMA was created for those transactions and to separate it from the Minimum Wage (like 5 years ago) which is why only until now the minimum wage has started to go up little by little with the current government.

[@mtngrl5859]

In an internet search, the median income in Mexico is around $1500 month, so the difference is not that great anymore.

[@kellyname5733]

25% are making $700-$100 a month. As one steps up that is where 50% of the folks make $1800 to $2000 monthly. The next 25% are averaging $5000 monthly and up. The younger generations want wayyy more than their parents any wayyy more that their grandparents. They go to college and they work hard. There is a HUGE middle class emerging in Mexico, hence gentrification by Mexican citizens. For immigration UMA, sadly, is not being used, still using minimum wage to determine income qualifications. If UMA was being used then many more folks would qualify to immigrate to Mexico. Jose Arteaga just dropped a new video a few days ago, 'How much does a typical Mexican make in Mexico', explaining these figures. They are pretty close but not exact. He shows the wage growth has tripled in recent years. I have been saying it for years that Mexico is growing/prospering while much of the globe is failing.

[@patriciaranke5303]

Mexicans know you make gringo wages and you will be charged gringo prices been there done that unfortunately

[@JohnDigilio-bg2kh]

How do I qualify in Mexico if I only get 2100 us monthly

[@Oscarcarrillo001]

North Baja California is more cheaper to live

[@debbyhewitt5657]

I'm looking at the rates u r talking about but it doesn't factor in a 2, 3 income family n what they r living on.

[@CathAlexandra]

Are the requirements for residency still high?

[@TangerineTravels]

They are going up a lot every year. But there are quite a few ways to obtain legal residency without the need to meet financial requirements.

[@mikecandu3747]

​@@TangerineTravels You should do a video on how to obtain residency by bypassing the financial requirements. My wife and I are considering retirement in Mexico and we'll probably be able to meet the financial requirements, but just barely. Very few pensions can meet those financial requirements

[@mikecandu3747]

​@@MichaelGiordano777 Three thousand a month is not a ' bums and drifters " income. Most Mexicans can only dream of making $3000 a month.

[@TangerineTravels]

@@mikecandu3747 We talk about those options in this video: kzbin.info2CZVXoSGK18?feature=share

[@juanm4you1]

4:04 Usually, ingenieros in México marry other ingenieros..... an American couple on SS could still make less than a Mexican engineer couple

[@thebangkokconnection4080]

Mexico making it tough to obtain a long visa and only a few areas are safe for foreigners mostly in gated communities.

[@kellyname5733]

Safety only in gated communities??? You need to go all over Mexico and see for your self. Seriously...do you think thousands of people would immigrate to Mexico if all they could do is live behind prison gates?

[@j.whisper2379]

Not really! Getting more expensive!

[@carllind949]

0:47 If that is an eight hour day at 17.33, it is only 2.17 per hour. No wonder chevys are now made in mexico. How does a cashier at 2:30 make five times as much of minimum wage at 2.17?

[@TangerineTravels]

It´s a bit higher than that considering they get paid on their non-working days and then add another 25-30% for benefits, but those are low wages nonetheless. That´s why almost nobody will accept a job for minimum wage because they can get paid more doing almost anything else. The lowest paying jobs that I see offered are paying something like 8,000 pesos a month.

[@Leo-z1v]

You can live almost anywhere on the planet accept America

[@drariel]

Whats happen with travel videos ? I miss it

[@TangerineTravels]

KZbin might not have showed them to you. Here´s a recent travel vlog from Mazatlan: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hWKlgH6JoLCUm68

[@jamescalifornia2964]

Toluca de Lerdo is a cool mountain climate. Don't know about cost of living there ... 🤔❓️

[@RishayanPorMexico]

Cuidado con Toluca...it is in the mafia- controlled zone.

[@jamescalifornia2964]

@@RishayanPorMexico 😳❗️

[@RishayanPorMexico]

@@jamescalifornia2964 Toluca is the coolest ( temperature wise) city in Mexico. But insecurity wise, it is iffy. I will explain it like this. Criminal control here in Mexico is directly related to political control. Mexico city is surrounded by 5 major cities, each in it's own state. Toluca is in the state of Mexico, here referred to as EDOMEX to not confuse it with the city of Mexico ( CDMX) or the nation of Mexico. This state continues to be under the control of the political party known as the PRI, well known to be the drug cartel- mafia controlled party. EDOMEX is one of the 5 most insecure states in Mexico, next to Guerrero, Tamaulipas, Zacatecas, and Sinaloa. The two cities to the west and south of CDMX ,Toluca and Cuernavaca, are, without a doubt, more insecure than the other 3 cities to the north and east, Pachuca( where I am currently at at this moment), Tlaxcala and Puebla. Temperature wise, all 6 cities( including the CDMX), have very similar mediterranean type climates, with Toluca being the coolest. Cost wise, Puebla is definately the most economical, with Tlaxcala and Pachuca coming in a close second. Security wise, Pachuca and Tlaxcala are definately the safest( much safer than any american city).

[@shosmyth1454]

Personally I think that perhaps if your wise ? I would make sure I was receiving a decent social security check? Because with Global Inflation you don’t know how that is going to affect the Mexico Money Exchange Rate???

[@frankkluz9787]

AVERAGE IS $1693 - for 2023 ! -- Not $ 1827 according to what I ''googled up'' ???

[@bullantoffroad]

I wish in Australia we could leave the country and stay on the old age pension. As soon as you leave you lose it

[@alextrunov1940]

Dude, my SS check is a bit more then $3k (not counting 401k and other savings), so I could live comfortable anywhere 😂

[@oscargalvez9020]

Yeah but now imagine spending that in the Third World, money lasts way longer over there...

[@Cenlalowell]

Uh wrong. Switzerland, UAE, says different

[@martyg3757]

@@Cenlalowell They are not third world countries.

[@oscargalvez9020]

@@Cenlalowell Exactly, they're not third world countries where cost of living is way cheaper.

[@Cenlalowell]

@@martyg3757 he said ANYWHERE

[@kimjongpunk8024]

Bienvenidos sean todos a México 🥰🇲🇽

[@dovygoodguy1296]

How will the worsening situation between the US and Mexico over the drug trade affect things?? Obrador is declaring that every Mexican will be prepared to defend Mexico against any invaders.

[@TangerineTravels]

Can you give more details on how the situation has become worse? I don´t really watch the news.

[@AlexRCarlson]

It is actually making the dollar less valuable. The peso has been strong lately. Which is bad for Americans in Mexico, but not a massive hit really.

[@AlexRCarlson]

@@MichaelGiordano777 Not really, no different than here they paint minimum wage as a savior, but it just means you're making less money as it doesn't keep up with inflation.

[@dovygoodguy1296]

@@TangerineTravels American senators have said they want the US to attack the cartels inside Mexico, and Obrador is answering that not only will the army and marines be prepared to fight any invaders, but so will every Mexican. I saw him on Twitter.

[@dovygoodguy1296]

@@AlexRCarlson It will if there is a real military confrontation........

[@TJWinter1221]

What about the quality of healthcare in Mexico?

[@RishayanPorMexico]

Just like anywhere else, it all depends on how much money you got in your pocket. When I had my first serious gall bladder attack, I was in a small city here in MX, and the idiot doctors told me it was just indigestion. But 6 hours in that joke of a hospital only cost me 4 dollars! 3 weeks( and a lot of pain) later, I was in an operating room in San Antonio Texas. Go figure!

[@MoonChylde0622]

Off topic here, but I wanted to ask about Alaska? Found your channel a day or two ago and have been binging. We hope to expat in 2024. We have a dog that, like Alaska, would be too large for an airplane cabin. If we chose to fly into Mexico upon immigrating, she'd have to ride in cargo (not ideal 😕). How did you choose to bring Laska to Mexico? Did you guys drive in or fly? Or did you decide to use a pet transport service? TIA and thanks for the quality content!

[@TangerineTravels]

I’ve actually never flown with her. We drove to Mexico when coming with her

[@MoonChylde0622]

@@TangerineTravels She a Bone-a-fied road dog! (Lol I had to) I guessed as much. I don't think I'd like to fly my fur-kids, either. Road trip time!

[@jamescalifornia2964]

​@@MoonChylde0622 Rent an RV for the trip 👌🇲🇽

[@delvaldog2869]

They should strive to correct their own country before fleeing through financial asylum

[@delvaldog2869]

@BettyAbsolutely yeah and Im saying why can’t retire in your own country where you can create the same pace? Main reason is yes it’s cheaper but why does yours have to be so expensive. Of course, freedom also means right to flee as well

[@damonmelendez856]

@@delvaldog2869 the USA does not take care of its citizens, it’s always been about bringing in masses of immigrants who work for a pittance and then using them to pay for everyone else. Nothing wrong with retirees moving abroad where costs are lower instead of feeding into the US system of overpriced healthcare, housing etc. this is the other side of globalization. If you’re retired then you most likely won’t take advantage of higher USA salaries anymore so why wouldn’t you move? Just to stay in the USA and pay property taxes so that they can waste it on education and Medicaid for the illegals?

[@damonmelendez856]

@@delvaldog2869 great question why is the USA so expensive? Because you have to pay high property taxes and insurance etc. Most other countries charge very little for property taxes because they don’t pay for schooling and welfare.

[@gerg1352]

I don't think you understand the hopelessness and government corruption of the Central American countries.

[@delvaldog2869]

@@gerg1352 sadly I just know about Americas corruption and apparently it works enough to kick the old people out to more corrupt countries as you just put it.

[@gumarosifuentes4808]

No puede. Expresarse de la casa de ladrillos como garbage muchos y muchas mexicanos vivimos en casas de ese tipo por falta de dinero o lo que sea más respeto en su forma de hablar