Can you REALLY use WOOD GLUE for cleaning Vinyl RECORDS??

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Papa Bear's Studio

Papa Bear's Studio

Күн бұрын

Not John takes you step by step through the process of cleaning a vinyl record with wood glue, complete with a microscope view of the grooves before and after. This is an oddly and strangely satisfying process....trust me!

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@cvee2614
@cvee2614 10 ай бұрын
I’ve been doing this for years and years, like you I spread wood glue around with my finger. 😊 I let it sit overnight, peel off, repeat for side B. By far the best LP cleaning method. Nothing else comes close. Great video. Thanks.
@PapaBearsStudio
@PapaBearsStudio 8 ай бұрын
Thank you! I have been meaning to do an lp follow up... maybe soon
@SovietRipper
@SovietRipper 4 жыл бұрын
What I find interesting is how with a few people it doesn't work, I suspect other type of damage in those, but yes in general it's a good practical method to clean it
@ludwigfan3013
@ludwigfan3013 3 жыл бұрын
I've had a bad experience with it. I used the red kind though. I think it does matter on how long you let the glue stay on the record with any brand, they will all peel off in bits and pieces if you keep it on too long.
@canadeah3665
@canadeah3665 3 жыл бұрын
@@ludwigfan3013 it absolutely matters the only Glue you should use is Titebond II
@mab7175
@mab7175 3 жыл бұрын
@@canadeah3665 How about Super Glue. That's a better and faster method to destroy your albums.
@ianfrearson2261
@ianfrearson2261 3 жыл бұрын
@@mab7175 If done correctly and with the right materials, this is a perfectly valid (and extremely effective) way to clean vinyl records. The reason it works is that PVA can't actually bond to vinyl. But it will bond to any foreign matter trapped in the grooves. This method has been around for at least 20 years now, and I learned about it on Audiogon back then.
@mikeminden1090
@mikeminden1090 Жыл бұрын
I'm thinking of doing a couple of side-by-side tests on a thrift-store Jim Nabors LP: cover half of the side with glue - one side across the diameter, the other side a concentric ring, then compare by playing.
@mattspokane
@mattspokane Жыл бұрын
Try vasaline or carmex on the cap groves. I do that for him my other types of glues that always get the camp stuck on (shoe goo, E 6000, Seam Grip). I like Carmax because I can keep a tiny little container in a bag with my glue.
@ankitgalaxy
@ankitgalaxy 4 жыл бұрын
I used more glue by mistake as it was my first time. Now I have dry layer on top and underneath I can see all white glue which is not dried yet. It has been 2 days. I am still patiently waiting for it to dry. Any idea what I should be doing to fix it if it does not dry?
@r0bfleming
@r0bfleming 8 ай бұрын
I think it should be dry by now. ;-)
@CarlosCastilloproactivos
@CarlosCastilloproactivos 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your video! Is this a good solution for Vinyl records that keep repeating?
@PapaBearsStudio
@PapaBearsStudio 5 жыл бұрын
It depends if the skip comes from damage or from dirt or dust....
@georgeprice4212
@georgeprice4212 3 жыл бұрын
or a factory screw up.....
@Milos596
@Milos596 4 жыл бұрын
Can i dry it with a fan? It's faster
@mab7175
@mab7175 3 жыл бұрын
Use Super Glue. It will dry in a minute. I can't believe these people. They certainly are not audiophiles.
@ludwigfan3013
@ludwigfan3013 3 жыл бұрын
Will this work with Titebond original wood glue? I'm hoping I didn't make a mistake and use the wrong type.
@ianfrearson2261
@ianfrearson2261 3 жыл бұрын
Titebond original isn't technically PVA, although I imagine it would still work okay. Give it a try on a throwaway record and see how it goes.
@ludwigfan3013
@ludwigfan3013 3 жыл бұрын
@@ianfrearson2261 Most videos I've seen do use the blue label, there's a couple that use the red kind but I'll give it another shot.
@canadeah3665
@canadeah3665 3 жыл бұрын
Titebond II only
@mab7175
@mab7175 3 жыл бұрын
@@ianfrearson2261 Then when you use this method on the rest of your records. Throw all your damaged records away. I can't believe these people. They certainly are not audiophiles.
@ianfrearson2261
@ianfrearson2261 3 жыл бұрын
@@canadeah3665 Honestly that is indeed the best advice. I recently bought the Titebond brand glue for first time, and I nearly walked out with "original" - but seeing there was a Titebond II made me think to read the labels very carefully...
@davidperrott4502
@davidperrott4502 4 жыл бұрын
what do you recommend to maintain your platter mat?
@printzapper
@printzapper 3 жыл бұрын
Smooth on a couple teaspoons of titebond 2, let it dry and there you go!
@mab7175
@mab7175 3 жыл бұрын
Hey David. Use wood glue. To glue down warped records to the turntable surface to be flat on the turntable. Use Super Glue that's better. Then you won't have to wait overnight for the wood glue dry to play your warped records. With Super Glue in a minute you can play your warp records. I can't believe these people. They certainly aren't audiophiles.
@georgeprice4212
@georgeprice4212 3 жыл бұрын
Will this work with UK 45's?
@PapaBearsStudio
@PapaBearsStudio 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely
@rabbit73au
@rabbit73au 2 жыл бұрын
There is some cleaner called Revirginizer does the same thing probably safer and non toxic
@bbutler5090
@bbutler5090 4 жыл бұрын
Forget the record, what about the stylus? How do you know it doesn’t pick up small remnants of the glue when you play the record after cleaning?
@FishingIndiana
@FishingIndiana 3 жыл бұрын
Run it through a spin clean when your done that's what I do
@canadeah3665
@canadeah3665 3 жыл бұрын
Did you not watch the actual video? He shows the grooves after theres nothing there. If there is left over grime your stylus has picked up you clean your stylus with a brush and fluid like you should after every record.
@mab7175
@mab7175 3 жыл бұрын
EXACTLY! These guys are jokes. And certainly revealed with a twenty gun salute they are not audiophiles. Never take the advice from individuals who obviously aren't audiophiles in regards to anything pertaining to audio. And lord heavens this guy is going to give advice in the care of high fidelity 33 1/3 LPs. Moreover, wood glue contains residual traces of chemicals that deteriorates the high frequency undulations in the record groove. Which true audiophiles can perceive during playback as marring high frequency overtones of musical instruments. That's why this method was never used during the hey day of vinyl LPs from the 1950s until the widespread use of CDs. If you went to a high end state of the art high fidelity establishment in the hey day of LPs and mentioned this crap. People would think you were crazy. And tell you the pawn shop down the street got old beat up record players with ceramic cartridges and arms weigh enough to scrape holes in your records. What audiophile would want to hear gummy gunk from wood glue still remaining in the record grooves.. Records in the hey day were clean with specialized short soft bristle hand gloves with isopropyl alcohol as a cleaning fluid. They are too young and never did their homework to know that. They're good comical entertainment for seasoned audiophiles to watch.
@ianfrearson2261
@ianfrearson2261 3 жыл бұрын
@@mab7175 Total audiosnob rubbish.
@denizenofclownworld4853
@denizenofclownworld4853 2 жыл бұрын
@@mab7175 Audiophiles are idiots, too. Just like you. No science in anything you said. You use the term 'Audiophile' as if it's some kind of credential and not simply a self description people like you use as a substitute for accomplishment. What school did you attend to become an 'audiophile'? lol Is that a BA or a Masters? Shut up, moron. Go be pretentious somewhere else.
@printzapper
@printzapper 3 жыл бұрын
How about a before and after using a spin clean?
@canadeah3665
@canadeah3665 3 жыл бұрын
You want to see the first record or the 20th cleaned in the dirty bath?
@mab7175
@mab7175 3 жыл бұрын
@@canadeah3665 Yeah, the dirty water won't permanently damage your records. This is hilarious. Vinyl record afficionado audiophiles (from the mid 1950s until the advent of CDs which I'm old enough to remember). See this and think rightfully so you were crazy. In the hey day of vinyl records. Vinyl records were cleaned with specialized gloves with short soft bristles. Specifically manufactured for vinyl records. Isopropyl alcohol was the cleaning agent. This video is hilarious entertainment. Better than watching sitcoms.
@royrice6060
@royrice6060 2 жыл бұрын
Go ahead and use glue but NOT me!! I don’ have ANY records that bad!! 👀👀😳😩
@DrSVNarasimhan
@DrSVNarasimhan 3 жыл бұрын
Wood glue cannot remove the nasty sounds that are heard from scratches and wounds on the plastic record. Please do not attempt wood glue cleaning method on them. But for sure it cleans up deep scum in the tracks.
@skatterpro
@skatterpro 3 жыл бұрын
If you have scratches and damage, there's a chance dirt is making the issue a lot worse. My first pressing of The Dark Side of the Moon was unplayable with visible scratches and constant skipping. After using wood glue I have no skips and the record plays great.
@denizenofclownworld4853
@denizenofclownworld4853 2 жыл бұрын
You heard it here first, folks. Wood glue is somehow vinyl. ;)
@mikeminden1090
@mikeminden1090 Жыл бұрын
Yep - polyvinyl acetate is the active bonding agent in modern wood glues; records are polyvinyl chloride. But it's probably the water in glue that makes it work on hydrophobic records, which might explain why the method is not recommended for shellac records.
@jankove2
@jankove2 5 жыл бұрын
Do not try it, waste of time , big mess, no results, trust me it does not work at all.
@PapaBearsStudio
@PapaBearsStudio 4 жыл бұрын
I think the video shows otherwise...
@frankstine1012
@frankstine1012 4 жыл бұрын
Worked great for me
@ianfrearson2261
@ianfrearson2261 3 жыл бұрын
I've used this method multiple times. It produces amazing results. If it's messy...then you need to be more careful applying the glue.
@canadeah3665
@canadeah3665 3 жыл бұрын
Tajo you're full of it. You either did it wrong or tried to remove noise from damage/ scratches rather than dirt and grime.
@mab7175
@mab7175 3 жыл бұрын
You're absolutely right Tajo. People who concur with this guy reveal they are not audiophiles. Lord heavens this guy is going to give advice cleaning high fidelity 33 1/3 LPs. And in the hey day from the the mid 1950s to the advent of CDs. Which I am old enough to remember and not them. Audiophiles would have thought you were crazy with this crap. Furthermore, wood glue contains residual chemicals that deteriorates the high frequency undulations in the record grooves. Audiophiles wouldn't even touch the record surface of the record and yet don't. Due to the fact minute traces of fatty acid oils on the surface of your fingers and palms will deteriorate also the high frequency undulations in the record grooves. Which audiophiles can perceive during playback as deteriorations of the higher frequency undulations marring the high frequency overtones of musical instruments. In the hey day of high fidelity LPS. Vinyl records were cleaned with specialized gloves with short soft bristles specifically for vinyl records. And isopropyl alcohol was used as the cleaning agent. These guys are too young to know that an never did their homework. But they are good comical entertainment for seasoned audiophiles.
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