Can you stuff 6 adults and luggage in an Aerostar?

[@wntu4]

"Aerostar lotta ones" That got about 20 seconds of full on belly laugh.

[@mabukli2]

RWY20, good old days. I learned flying from that airport! Thanks for awesome video!

[@seadog2969]

Walla Walla--home of the Little Giant Vacuum Cleaner Company. . . . And Drew Bledsoe, of course. When my mom lived in Walla Walla I swear there was a picture of Drew on every wall.

[@AerostarPilot]

Drew bought some land for a vineyard housing project from a friend outside of WW.

[@rfriesen1644]

Really appreciate your videos and professional airmanship.

[@AerostarPilot]

Thank you.

[@bernardanderson3758]

I’ve flown in the Aerostar and this is the first time I’ve seen you fully loaded with passengers

[@thomashelm6931]

PAE, where I learned how to fly and my first solo. Currently live under the glide path of 34L. Love it!

[@AerostarPilot]

I fly over you frequently.

[@thomashelm6931]

@@AerostarPilot I would imagine! I wish I had the DME . Mountlake Terrace so I imagine about 5 miles as the plane flies?

[@anthonyomisorecanfixit]

More videos please

[@AerostarPilot]

There will be more after the first of the year. It has been a busy 4th quarter this year with other non flying distractions.

[@eminye1]

Just keep featuring the mighty aerostar!

[@AerostarPilot]

I will.

[@ordyy89]

2000 hours in those things. Always liked them.

[@bernardanderson3758]

Eric you have always been known as the Best Of the Best In Getting with anyone who wants to knowing more about And too getting current in there purchasing of a High Performance multi engine aircraft as you have so continue to keep the videos coming

[@AerostarPilot]

I do have more videos coming. I got very busy with my real estate business and have not had time to edit anything lately.

[@bernardanderson3758]

The housing market rate is up to 6%.0 and in my areas there are more buyers than before and the construction of houses isn’t enough

[@andor8635]

Great video Eric enjoy watch your flying thank you. You're motivating me on the Aerostar. It would be great to show a video of maintenance and talk about it what's done on it and cost some day.

[@donaldclark8692]

Eric ,Did you know That Oliver North,Had #13 of the last Factory True 700s tucked away in a hanger Down in Panama?We went down And got her after 9 years in a hanger. She Barely made it home.

[@AerostarPilot]

I did not know that! That sounds like a very interesting story I would love to see published.

[@v1rotait23]

Gidday from NZL, just found you in my feed. Love the Aerostar and the "Aerostar-all-ones" callsign!

[@AerostarPilot]

Thanks for joining us.

[@frostyfrost4094]

How many ZK- Aerostars have you in New Zealand?.

[@v1rotait23]

@@frostyfrost4094, from the CAA ZK register only 3! ZK-JOS, a 601, ZK-MVY, a Piper Aerostar 600, and ZK-TSA, a Ted Smith Aerostar 600. I've never seen them myself as they're a long way north from where I live. :)

[@rogersmart1766]

I usually clean up and establish Vy I come bask to climb power to save excessive “wear and tear”!

[@AerostarPilot]

Statistically if you were to have an engine problem or other mechanical issue, it will happen when you make a power or configuration change. Usually I make the power change above 500' then transition to cruise climb at 150kts, 37" and 2400 RPM.

[@daviddd44-63]

Oh wow throwback to when we had chinook app/dep around the pasco area. Now it’s Spokane controlling those parts down there.

[@CobusDerrenberg]

LOVE your video's ! I'm looking for a good Aerostar to buy.. Any suggestions? Thank you for your great work here ✨

[@daviddefelice6997]

Looks like it's about time for a Garmin G600TXI.🙂

[@AerostarPilot]

G500 works fine in this aircraft since the certificated GW is 6000#. The increased GW STC's don't effect which class it is for G500-600 purposes. But yes, it needs an update. If only my partner would agree and I am not talking about my wife.

[@rogersmart1766]

Yes I knew That and this is a very well known statistic but I do it too above 500’ as well.

[@SidViscious]

your flaps are still down even after you mentioned that they were

[@AerostarPilot]

Not sure what you are referring to. I assume the takeoff at ALW. Keep in mind the Aerostar's flaps are hydraulic and have no preselect for any setting. The handle has three positions, up, neutral and down. For takeoff the were set to 20° with the flap handle in the neutral position. Think of neutral as OFF. After takeoff I put the flap handle in the up position. Think of this is ON for UP. Once they were up, I put the handle back in the neutral position.

[@johnmohanmusic]

Thanks for another great video!

[@mcfast52]

How close were they from being over at max gross weight and aft cg with the two big guys in the back?

[@AerostarPilot]

Max TO weight on this aircraft is 6850#. Fully loaded with 110# baggage and 165g fuel our TO weight was 6784#. CG was in the forward portion of the envelope. 11111 has the battery in the nose rather than the standard tail cone location moving the empty CG even further forward. I could do another short video on this subject. Putting anything in the cabin moves the CG forward, burning fuel moves the CG forward, rear seats don't move the cg much at all. email me and I will send you the loading summary from Foreflight. I am usually fighting the forward CG issue, not aft CG.

[@mcfast52]

@@AerostarPilot OK, thanks I was just worried with so many accidents happening stay safe!

[@jadeng1147]

I guess that'll teach you to brief whoever sits in the co-pilot's seat before takeoff differently than the rest...

[@richardgreen7811]

Up to now ... I've found you a man of sound mind. Four women in the middle seats ? How high did you go ? Did you reduce the pressure differential ? I'm dying to know your technique.

[@AerostarPilot]

It’s ok. There were only three women.

[@richardgreen7811]

@@AerostarPilot Wheeeeuuuu ... that was close

[@chrisbragdon5901]

Be careful of Aerostar CG. Tricky with “full” loads but doable if you put the big ones in the back! Just saying!

[@UberGeek]

Am I hearing alternator whine just before take off? Check your ground wires, if so. I was an avionics tech, back in the day.

[@AerostarPilot]

It is. Love to talk. Been trying to figure it out. Email me.

[@UberGeek]

@@AerostarPilot Digging deep in my memories.... I think there is a noise filter that can be added.... I pinged my brother, who recently retired from Avionics, who would know more specific details.... Will get back to you asap.

[@AerostarPilot]

@@UberGeek There are noise filters mounted by the alternators. Both alternators produce the noise individually. One off or the other off same thing. Both off and as you would expect the noise is gone.

[@UberGeek]

@@AerostarPilot Response from my brother: "The only way to eliminate alternator whine is to isolate all mic, phones and music jacks from ground, all jacks ground must be tied to the same ground as the intercom. " . It has been decades since I worked on planes but some memories keep creeping back. I remember it was easier to run a mic/phones wire to the jack and mount the jacks and the aircraft as ground. Having a shielded wire (mic, phones and/or stereo wires with the shield as ground) from the intercom to each jack. Hope that helps.

[@davidsamuels6981]

questions: what was your take off weight and what was your range?

[@aviatorsrealtor684]

6735# TO weight. Full standard fuel 165 gal. Range will be dependent on winds of course. For a long range flight, an average of 40 ghp is pretty close. On a 0 wind day at FL250 running at 55% power i can get 740 ktm with VFR reserve. That flight would take 3:20 from wheels up to landing. The aux tank holds 44 usable, adding another hour and about 235 ktm. you can go a little slower and get more range if you want, but my bladder is only good for about 3.5 hours anyway.

[@TonyMandarano]

Hey Eric, in this video, shortly after takeoff from Walla Walla you appear to have taken the flaps out and then put the flaps back in. Why? Were you flying the entire time with some flaps in?

[@AerostarPilot]

Hi Tony, The Aerostar flaps are hydraulic. The flap handle has 3 positions, up, neutral and down. On takeoff the flaps were set to 20°, after takeoff the handle is moved into the up position until they are retracted fully, then the flap handle is moved back to neutral. (center position).

[@easttexan2933]

I didn't understand the flap position lever in the 1/2 way position the entire trip. Please explain.

[@AerostarPilot]

The flaps are 100% hydraulic. The flap handle has three positions, up, down and off which is the middle position. There are no preset stops. When you want to deploy 20° flaps, put the handle in the down position then back to the middle position when the position gauge reads 20°.

[@easttexan2933]

@@AerostarPilot thank you for that info. That handle position was bugging me the whole video 😀 Very nice twin you have.

[@craigbmm4675]

Aerostar N-ALOTA1S clear for departure ! haha

[@melprestondickson7291]

Eric, where did you get that yoke mounting for the iPad mini?

[@AerostarPilot]

The one on the pilot is made by MyGoFlight.com the other is RamMount.com. I like the mygoflight much better but it is more expensive.

[@melprestondickson7291]

Thanks Eric. Have you A/C in yr Aerostar?

[@AerostarPilot]

@@melprestondickson7291 yes. Engine driven. Works great.

[@ontimespiva]

Eric, is your airplane a 702P with the gross weight increase? I like the 700 but man they get pricey

[@AerostarPilot]

yes. it was the last 602P made then converted to the 702p. Has all the options. You will pay well over 600k for a good one with Garmin Glass.

[@patmasonbayouboogie4859]

Better question, can that Aerostar climb out with that load on one engine? I think we all know the answer.

[@AerostarPilot]

The 700 can, but not any better than a 601P at gross weight. We were still a few hundred pounds under the max 6850 GW.

[@easttexan2933]

Mr. Reese, another thing I don't understand about TC engines is this (and I hope I can ask this so you will understand what I am asking)....I noticed that on T/O, you had 42" of MP and appx 2500rpm on the props. My question is this.....does one have to use 42" of MP to get those props to max rpm? If not, then why run the engines so hard. I mean if you can get max prop rpm with 30" of MP why push the power on up? Just a thought I had that I don't understand how that works. Thank you in advance for taking the time to answer.

[@AerostarPilot]

The engines in my plane are Lycoming TIO-540-U2A's which are rated at 350hp max continuous at 2500 rpm and 42" mp or 100%. When you reduce the throttle the MP will come down but the RPM will stay constant until you get down to around 10 or 12" MP. The max TO weight of this plane is 6850# which is where the SE performance numbers are based, ie at 100% If you take off with less power the performance is reduced along with the reduction in power. Same thing with a single engine aircraft, why would you not take off with full rated horse power? These engines were designed to operate continuously at 350hp or 100%

[@easttexan2933]

@@AerostarPilot thanks for the info. I guess that's why I don't understand all I need to know about power and rpm. I mean 2500rpm is 2500rpm, right? I guess I don't understand how excessive power produces more thrust once 2500rpm is reached.

[@AerostarPilot]

@@easttexan2933 Do some research on google about constant speed propeller systems. I think this is the knowledge you are missing. Here is one to start with: www.century-of-flight.net/constant-speed-propellers-explained/

[@Mikinct]

Just because there's seats doesn't mean one should place adults in them. How would this plane fly on takeoff with one engine, would it struggle at max gross weight or climb at 500ft?

[@AerostarPilot]

It is not the number of people, it is all aobut the gross weight.

[@Mikinct]

@@AerostarPilot I know it's gross weight. And it's "when both engines are producing power". When you have full fuel counter balancing Aft weight if adults in 3rd row, 3/4 through that flight there's far less weight counter balancing from wing tanks as during take off. Aft CG with 6 adults on one engine is a struggle. As an example, how many times have you loaded Full fuel, some luggage with 6 adults and feathered one engine to "experience" how your plane performs under that load configured before? Once, Twice, Never?

[@AerostarPilot]

These are always good discussions. I am not disagreeing with your reasoning. The heavier you are the more risk you are taking. Question for you, what happens to the CG in an Aerostar when you put people in the cabin, in any seat?

[@donaldclark8692]

It has been done before.A/C on max.And small bags as well as ladys.Nuf said.

[@AerostarPilot]

I know it has. It is certified for 7 which a lot of people don't know about. Three kids fit in the rear bench seat fine and has the three seat belts.

[@Chris2745100]

@@AerostarPilot How much has aviation fuel gone up this year?

[@AerostarPilot]

@@Chris2745100 Just guessing in my area $3.00 per gallon plus or minus. It has come down a buck in the last couple weeks. I try not to pay much attention to it, too depressing.

[@JW-pf5qy]

@@AerostarPilot We are paying at least US$7/gal for AVGAS in Australia!!!

[@garyowen9044]

When I do that, someone, in the back, suddenly has to pee.

[@rogersmart1766]

How long do you keep it at 42”? Isn’t it limited to 3 min ?

[@AerostarPilot]

42" and 2500 RPM is max continuous power! Usually I will stay at 42" to 500' or so.

[@99kevin99]

You said Walla Walla. Nice video, thank you. Maybe establish "sterile cockpit" callout and brief PAX on what the expectation is when called?

[@chrisbragdon5901]

Be careful of Aerostar CG. Tricky with “full” loads but doable if you put the big ones in the back! Just saying!

[@AerostarPilot]

Not this one! I have the battery in the nose. The problem I have is the CG being too far forward. I have actually had to put ballast in the tail cone battery compartment to keep from having to put weights in the baggage compartment when flying alone.

[@superbmediacontentcreator]

Nice plane and family, you have a gorgeous co-pilot. I never realized what a pain it is to load an Aerostar. At one point everyone gives your call sign as 5-1s, even you. One thing I do not like is that you do mental checklists, not paper or call out various elements such as your gear up but once and a while. You seem to have a lot of experience but are just a bit too casual for me.

[@928smnporsche3]

What was the max gas amount to bring you up to gross wt?

[@AerostarPilot]

On this flight, I had 165.5 gal. That put me at 6800 # TOW. This aircraft's GW is 6850#. Full fuel (std tanks) is 165.5g or 993# or I can fill the aux tank and have 209.5g or 1257# of fuel. Empty weight on these run from about 4500-4800#. At 4500#EW with 1257# Fuel, you can put 1093# of people and baggage in the plane. Max baggage compartment weight is 250#

[@928smnporsche3]

Impressive

[@banrircardot]

lol @ lotta 1's

[@Pilotc180]

It woudlnt fly with 5 Whoopie Goldbergs in it 😀

[@AerostarPilot]

I would not fly with any Whoopies.