Can Your Budget Modern Deck Beat a 1000€ Magic Deck?

‪@AndreaMengucci‬ pilots your budget modern deck in today's gameplay video against Cardmarket's Carl. Can the white black Magic: The Gathering deck Florian made under 100€ beat this powerful 1000€ Energy deck in today's Paper Gameplay video?
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[@CardmarketMagic]

Today's Decklits: bit.ly/3LsdZff Mengu's Workshop: / @mengusworkshop

[@HauntedCorpseGaming]

Always LOVE to see Andrea Mengucci in your guys videos. :D

[@samuelguindon2016]

Don't planeswalkers have loyalty counters? Should teferi not enter with 0 counters? I am confused xD Still, I always love your videos, keep it up!! :)

[@CardmarketMagic]

@@samuelguindon2016 solemnity specifically does not say planeswalker :)

[@samuelguindon2016]

@@CardmarketMagic did not know that! Thanks! :)

[@buberoini]

Lol decklits

[@foxokon94]

Submitting a solemnity deck with energy and the one ring being all the rage was a big brain move

[@RyanOlander]

I love how much a pro Mengu is that he knows other players lists by memory 😂

[@lars_rosenberg]

Dominguez is Mengu's friend and they even have a podcast together, so he's not just a random player. Also he top8-ed the Pro Tour with that deck.

[@RumpledNutskin]

It's less of being a pro and more of being good friends and having a podcast with Javier and just playing modern literally every day on stream

[@RyanOlander]

@@lars_rosenberg I forgot he actually piloted the deck, but yeah I knew that they're friends and all.

[@RyanOlander]

@@lars_rosenberg also, Dominguez is hardly a "random player". Even if they weren't friends and had a podcast together, it would be good planning for a pro to know what he's up to.

[@grubgobbler3917]

​​@@RyanOlanderI think a lot of pros had an eye on that deck, even if they didn't know him. I think Dominguez had a pretty good shot at the title with a board wipe heavy control deck against a sea of creature combo decks. It was really just back luck that he repeatedly ran into the sideboarded hate cards over and over.

[@florianw]

Really exited that my deck got picked Can't wait to watch :D

[@2LettersSho]

Grats! Solemnity itself is really interesting in Modern atm, very cool to see it in action!

[@CardmarketMagic]

Your decl was wild! Great Job! You'll be receiving the deck soon, but, if you can answer Andrea's question, will this be your second copy of it?

[@florianw]

​@@CardmarketMagic It's going to be my first paper copy of the deck :D Awesome video! I didn't expect a 2-0 but it really was a brutal matchup for energy

[@sidprado1901]

what a cool strategy! You made me want to build!

[@jmkqfnvyl87]

Shortcuts: Infinite scry 1 lets you cut to any location in your library. Infinite scry 2 means you can reorder your library any way you want.

[@MathisGries-ml5qv]

Source: Policy Changes for M19

[@XenithShadow]

Some of the old put card on the bottom on your libary card used to say in any order instead of a random order as well. So a jar of eyeballs with enough counter on it lets you reorder your entire deck.

[@jmkqfnvyl87]

@@MathisGries-ml5qv Source: I’m a math major who knows sort algorithms 🤣

[@MathisGries-ml5qv]

@@jmkqfnvyl87 The question isn't about whether it's mathematically possible, but whether tournament policy allows the shortcut ;)

[@jmkqfnvyl87]

@@MathisGries-ml5qv if not, then I still get to do it, it just takes longer and I could do the whole sort algorithm quick enough to avoid slow play. It’s a shortcut to how to think about it. We have shortcuts to thinking for mathematical axioms. Wasn’t making a point about any policy-whatever it is you mean by policy.

[@polishhockeyfan]

Mengu being one of Magics final bosses while also being a complete goofball is so heartwarming. Awesome veedeo~!

[@MrLogistician]

I'm gonna give mengu a shameless plug and say you should check out his streams on his KZbin channel (although truthfully he's much less of an entertainer and more of a player)

[@johnd5740]

Ginyu force vibes

[@daxamlhant7285]

10:00 With it being scry 1 you shouldn't be able to stack the deck as it will always keep the deck in the same order just with a different starting spot. If it was scry 2 you could do so as you can iterate through the deck until you find the spot that you want to insert the card you don't bottom. Then repeat that for every card in the deck

[@GoblinKoboldGaming]

By stack they were meaning that. In the end of the video you see him basically just cutting the deck at a point so the card he wants is on top. But you are correct.

[@Jacob_____]

Being able to do it at instant speed infinitely means he can effectively stack it though, because after he draws one he can pick any card to be on top again to guarantee the next draw. You are right though and he can't reorder the deck but the only time that would realistically matter was if he was drawing more than 1 card at once

[@BlankTFT]

@@Jacob_____ Only problem is if there was a case he needed to "draw 2", I don't believe he's able to put something on the stack in between the draws, making the distinction sometimes matter

[@gotic1926]

Mengu is one of the best in my opinon. 1st he is allways fun to watch. 2nd he knows how to play and outplay others and make it look easily.

[@violaknapp7904]

What a cool match, it's always a great time when a users' funky budget deck goes toe to toe with one of the titans (of Fire's Fury)! Also, the slow motion was a nice touch, it really captured the majestic sillyness of the deck

[@BoltTheEmolga]

Thankfully not Nadu

[@CardmarketMagic]

Oh I would not make you all sit through that 😅

[@jackeea_]

The 1 billion life combo was more fun to watch than a 1 billion hour combo

[@xolotltolox7626]

tbh if it was nadu the game would have been won, since this deck's main combo tool hoses energy specifically

[@Triforceog]

​@@CardmarketMagic giant W

[@shadowfan115]

​@@xolotltolox7626I think they mean their glad the budget deck didn't go against Nadu

[@Kalenz1234]

15:50 I didn't know you could fizzle an "up to 1 target" ability by making the target illegal. Good to know!

[@popy-kk9fn]

The number of targets is chosen when the ability/spell goes onto the stack, so once its on the stack with a target, it is effectively the same as if it just said 1 target.

[@superyahoo1822]

if all targets of a spell become illegal targets the spell fizles and since a target was chosen that target can become an illegal target

[@therealax6]

This is the reason why many modal spells that let you choose multiple modes say "Target player draws a card", by the way. It's not that you'd realistically target someone else (edge cases exist, but that's not the goal). It's so that the draw mode still resolves even if the rest of the targets become illegal. (Sublime Epiphany comes to mind.)

[@assault410]

@@superyahoo1822 yeah, a landfall searing blaze that targets a creature and a player will still resolve even if the creature is removed searing blaze resolves

[@joshvon8495]

Ayyyyyyy modern with Mengu? What a ways to start the day

[@beanofknowledge2125]

Solemnity disabling Energy gain was a neat accidental Tech

[@arivald6677]

It was no accident. Kaladesh was right before Amonkhet and people absolutely hated that there is no answers to energy. Both Suncleanser and solemnity were meant as a answer to that and both were printed to late.

[@Sientir]

It hosing the card draw of the One Ring was even better imo.

[@silverthedruid4754]

@@arivald6677 did m19 (where Suncleanser debuted) overlap with Kaladesh standard legality?

[@Norgorber]

@@silverthedruid4754 Yes, but only for a couple months.

[@AncientHydraGaming]

​@@arivald6677 I think in this case it's "accidental tech" because it's mainboarded for the purpose of combo not to shut down the opponent. I don't know if the creators of the decks submitted knew top tier deck it was gonna face as in this video Carl only says "and we throw it against one of the best" in the format. Suncleanser wasn't seen in game 1 and is a very popular sideboard card and the video didn't go over what each player did for sideboarding.

[@giraffetownfan8810]

broodmoth isnt a nonbo, its an alternative with sac outlet + solemnity

[@theomniarch7405]

Came here to say this, but knew in my heart it was already said.

[@jacobisbell9388]

It's actually a cool piece because it is also infinite with the persist creature + sac outlet, it can fit either piece of the combo.

[@mikeconnors9287]

I think he meant it as a joke, he was saying "Oh no! You don't get a flying counter, it doesn't matter that the creature returned for infinite".

[@Lordmuhkuh23]

Yisss, gives basically every creature "persist" (in this case)

[@silverdeathgamer2907]

Besides the more obvious combos it can do, it also combos with suncleanser and a sac outlet which is a weirder line it can pull off.

[@kieranharwood7186]

Solemnity is one of, if not the, best hate and combo card in MtG. Whether it's persist, undying or Broodmoth infinite combos, shutting down One Ring, preventing energy, killing Nissa animated lands, killing Gideon Blackblade immediately, killing armies, comboing with Dark Depths, shutting down blast zones, storage lands, Jitte, arcbound, most hydra, etc. stopping cumulative upkeep happening, killing fading and vanishing and comboing with nine lives and phyrexian unlife to make you potentially unkillable, preventing infect, wither and toxic, shutting down Heliod etc., stopping oil shennanigans, preventing experience counters, even just messing with soul-scar mage... There's probably more I've had happen that I'm forgetting. I've had a three figure number of games where my opponent misplayed because they didn't realise the implications of solemnity. :)

[@Magimax5]

this kinda shows how "meta" is mostly defined by hype than by strong decks

[@diabeticmonkey]

For sure. It goes to show how a rogue deck can get some good wins.

[@88Vrus88]

05:11 Andrea just killed me. "Its just an Enchantment" looking innocent in the camera. Comedy gold!

[@MelanieOh]

Excellent video as always, great explanations and gameplay. That energy deck is no joke, but Mengu's deck is genuinely terrifying, well done to Florian for submitting it!

[@scoutboy25]

I had an idea, but didn't check to see if y'all did it. Bring in a weak magic player playing maybe a strong deck (maybe they're somewhat new to the game), versus a strong magic player with a very very weak deck (functional but not all that efficient)

[@jacksonkohls820]

Not to say Carl is a bad player but compared to mengu that's more or less what this video is 😂

[@The-Ertai]

New Carl-Mengu content - is it Christmas already?

[@bricelory9534]

That's an impressive matchup. Well done on showcasing how to stop Energy! Great video!

[@guimartgon]

That slowmo shot with beautiful music was incredible

[@XTimTheEnchanterX]

The editing on this channel just gets better every week. Also I truly love mengus new paper channel, def recommend it to anyone who likes videos like this.

[@AnviThirteen]

Carl you do great work in editing and coming up with video ideas, just had to let you know. As well as all the behind-the-camera heroes at Card Market!

[@CardmarketMagic]

Thank you :) that's very kind of you to say!

[@LGD.Raptor]

Great VEEDEO as always, especially when Mengus in town! When is the best Legacy deck series coming out?

[@CardmarketMagic]

In two three the first quarterfinals should be out :) I'm so pumped!

[@sorin_markov]

15:50 Andrea with the classic mind game XD

[@nyvisalays2475]

I love persist combos, I'm so glad to see it perform. It brings back a lot of memories of early modern creature combos.

[@mantasignatavicius1964]

I don't know why but this video editing is what I was looking for in MTG channels. I just want to look at a close up match and at the same time always have a second to read a card when it enters. No need for flashy animations that takes up time, just quick glimpse and information that stays on sides. It is perfect for me to learn

[@cheesehuffa9791]

We are so back

[@vaazon]

budget modern

[@PitBossReplicant]

That was indeed fun to watch, lovely to see mengu back on the cardmarket vids, not that I don't watch the workshop already

[@ReyosBlackwood]

9:40 it's not really a nonbo, the point of the Moth is to let any non-flying creature become the loop trigger. Andrea could have sacrificed the Viscera Seer to itself infinitely to stack his deck, or if he had Bloodthrone Vampire with Viscera Seer he could have created an infinitely large attacker (not that it mattered here through the one ring) the flying counter is actually not what the card is good for in this deck, it's just another persist/undying.

[@udhh2619]

That's actually a good deck I could see putting in damn, damnation for creature control and it be pretty busted

[@irengig8362]

This is how you fall in love with the game. Laughter, fun and magic. Great job all of you

[@sh41]

Nice slow motion with beautiful music. Quality content right there, very serious players

[@michaelsinnreich6626]

It was a good thing Andrea got the honesty counter before playing solemnity.

[@Matyanson]

That deck was amazing, congrats!

[@Shadow1patin]

I'm thinking about it and wow was picking solemnity in the current meta was an amazing meta call.

[@squrielman]

Blocking the counter on The One Ring made me smile.

[@estebanmarco8755]

At 16:37, instead of targeting the sacrifice outlet Carl should have targeted the Kitchen Finks. Yes it will come back, but because Solemnity is still on the stack, it will have a -1 / -1 counter, and the next sacrifice won't bring it back.

[@janmelantu7490]

No, that’s results-oriented thinking. We only know that would’ve been right because *we know* Mengu had another sacrifice outlet in hand. If Mengu had a persist creature in hand and Carl had targeted Kitchen Finks, you would be saying Carl should’ve gone for the sacrifice outlet. When you’re playing against aristocrats, it’s almost always the correct play to target the sacrifice outlets because they blank removal and make combat math a nightmare. They have a lot more flexibility than just combo-ing off.

[@estebanmarco8755]

@@janmelantu7490 yes, and no, we know everything as the viewers but from Carl perspective Andrea has 8 possible sac outlet but only 4 Finks. And if the goal is to prevent a combo, going for the piece with the least redundancy is the logical strat. Additionally Andrea had 1 mana available so, if he had a Finks, he had to wait for the hist next turn to cast it.

[@lorenzobassi3082]

Wow, Amazing deck and Amazing video. It's fire guys🔥

[@renethomsen6636]

This is so amazing plz make more of these so people Can see they still have chance even though they are on a budget

[@UHPhilipA]

I remember playing solemnity no-counters. Loved the deck! One of my favorites during that time. I need to check and see if I still have it lying around in a deck box some where.

[@gzzuss]

Just like in top gun I can see Miles teller telling to Tom cruise : it's not the deck it's the pilot😅😅😅

[@ZeroIsEven]

Winner should get both decks! Well done

[@gspoiler]

The fact wizards had banned so many phyrexian cards because there were able to be used in any deck without needing to fix the mana but the one ring probably wont get the same treatment because hasbro loves money.

[@regnsloja]

i think their stunt with the one of one ring kinda prevents them from banning it. they can't ban the card that got them so much PR and sold for so much.

[@ncuco]

Finally AndreaMengucci asks the question all of us probably thought... I do believe we already have the decks we've submitted most of the times 😄

[@neminem233]

Realizing that your combo piece also doubles a hate piece because you just focus on the combo piece part must have been EUPHORIC for Andrea

[@ForeverDayGreen]

I think the linked Decklists are wrong. Was wondering how Florian build his deck. Would be very funny if it was full budget but then had some high value cards in the sideboard 😅

[@JayGamesNL]

Thank you for this video. As a new player that only played commander for four times. Gave me a reason to have more interest into modern

[@CardmarketMagic]

Welcome to our favourite game! There atr so many fun ways to play it :) I hope you enjoy

[@6LordMortus9]

Wait a minute! I thought you actually had to buy the deck and if you won you would get the other deck! This changes everything hehe

[@GraemeGunn]

If you guys would ship to Canada, I'd gladly participate in this! Also, as others have pointed out, YAY! Another Carl and Mengu video! best content

[@CardmarketMagic]

Hopefully one day we expand to canada! You could send in your rakdos Goblins list :)

[@GamerayVideos]

Always fun to watch!

[@flavioromano8754]

this channel is a gift that keeps on giving

[@giammocosto]

My god the rallenty on Mengu ♡⌓⁠♡

[@davidhouseman4328]

Duress is so good. Learning that was enjoyable, but looking back I needed my friends to get good enough to make it so, against our first decks it would have been bad.

[@captaincrazy6936]

If you target kitchen finks with galvanic discharge it will die or be scarified before solemnity enters stopping the combo from starting since it would have a -1/-1 counter already.

[@roadkill2104]

This was superb 😆 I do love these matches.

[@SomeGuy712x]

(12:33) Ooh, where can I get a Suncleanser for just 14 cents? Or, did you put the wrong price there by mistake? (18:04) And with Murderous Redcap, that's game! Budget deck FTW!

[@CardmarketMagic]

It's gone up a bit since the video, but on cardmarket, the cheapest Suncleansers still go for 0,20€-0,70€ :)

[@SomeGuy712x]

@@CardmarketMagic Oh, huh. Looking at the details on TCG Player now, I see that Suncleanser used to be well under a buck in US dollars as well, until roughly 1½ months ago, when they spiked up to several dollars for some reason, perhaps due to MH3. (Makes me wish I had grabbed one while they were super cheap. Oh, well.)

[@AuraXars]

10:08 think the official shortcut is you can look at your deck and cut it whereever since that keeps the same correct order!

[@alfredofranceschini5606]

The slowMo killed me ❤😂

[@tzaandor]

Neat deck, great video 😁

[@SwedeRacerDC]

I think he should've won both decks! The 100€ deck because it won and the 1000€ deck because he beat it. Either way, energy is incredibly easy to disrupt, but this budget deck would've struggled against Nadu

[@KM708]

Please do a sharpie cube and invite Mengu and Frank Karsten. I'd love to see what chaos you all can come up with 😂

[@egggnome1866]

That slowmotion shot was beautiful 😢

[@Haurent]

Wow, 100€ to infinitely troll my friends? Sign me up

[@ElektechN9ne]

Mengu and Carl is such a delightful combo. So enjoyable!

[@mageius]

In all fairness aristocrats is actually 1 of the decks that's usually used as a budget build white getting pieces for other decks in the colors. Has a lot of tools at its disposal, so usually ends up being just a good "which way are we taking this type deck. It's been able to Mill people out, gain infinite life, and deal infinite damage 4 years. ( Mill was when they had altar of dementia as the sack outlit.)

[@robyngwendolynshiloh5277]

I live in US, and couldn't submit a deck, but a solemnity combo was also gonna be my submission 😂😂😂

[@MrGrovak]

Awesome episode!

[@CardmarketMagic]

Thank you :D

[@chimpmasterflex]

That ending bit was truly magical lmao.

[@FlozzSD]

I love mengu he's got such a jovial energy

[@Alize821]

in online poker they do this thing called "sweat with" where they hide their opponents hand and you can only see their cards and think about how they would respond with limited information. just some food for thought. you could probably make a good video about talking about the possible lines your opponent could take.

[@jlaw131985]

That deck seems fun.

[@johnkerber9578]

It’s definitely possible. Played a few casual games with Legacy lands once (it was all I had on me). Was hesitant, since I thought the games might be too imbalanced and not fun. Turns out, I think my deck was designed with the legacy meta game in mind. Was actually happy I got trounced with the some casual decks, since I couldn’t handle them. 😊

[@CardmarketMagic]

Legacy lands is, without any exaggeration, my favourite deck of all time! I hope you had fun with every one of those games :D that deck is a delight to play!

[@jerrymcdaniel6643]

I’m actually surprised that solemnity isn’t seeing more play. But fun idea phlage and kroxa plus moth equals good game lol

[@Roll-Penut]

This was such a funny matchup. Main board energy hate is crazy

[@TheDragonCoreGaming]

Around 7:50 I feel like using subtlety over force was a game losing play. Impossible to tell of course what Mengu's next top deck would be, but countering seer would force Mengu to try and top deck into the combo again, vs sbtlety just returns it to the top guranteeing the combo next turn anyway. Haven't seen anyone comment on this so wondering if im missing something obvious as a new-ish player lol

[@AndreaMengucci]

Go Solemnity!!! 💪

[@CardmarketMagic]

It served you well! Go Mengu's workshop!

[@MengusWorkshop]

Thank youuuu 😘

[@petrakat]

It's really funny to me that Solemnity is putting in so much work in these matches, because it was originally printed kind of in a hurry to combat Energy when it was taking over *standard*. History repeats itself...

[@KyleWalters126]

That is not how I expected this to go!

[@definitelynotmany4972]

It would be best to do a Pioneer invades Modern, where you test Modern’s versions of Pioneer decks against the Pioneer meta because I have always thought Pioneer combos should be good enough for Modern. Still, I have never seen anyone try them there.

[@gillablecam]

Another excellent shirt on Carl, man has style

[@shorty1815]

Mengu showing off his big deck energy 😏

[@hitmangfx7162]

One word: Satisfying

[@filipebotelho3548]

15:50 Wait, if you can't target anything with Teferi you don't get to draw a card? I've always thought they were independent things! Good to know

[@recusantvessel]

Andrea content is always the best kind of content!

[@jacobisbell9388]

14:33 I think Carl misplayed here using his soul guide lantern, putting the counter on the finks is enough to stop the combo already and he could have saved the lantern for another attempt. Also I missed hearing what they boarded in for game 2, obviously the suncleansers and grave hate but what else changed?

[@CardmarketMagic]

I had no idea he would topdeck so perfectly. Given that I could eventually pull off a phlage win and that budget decks are usually very incosinstant, I stand by my play :) there wasn't anything gained by doing nothing

[@definitelynotmany4972]

@@CardmarketMagic You should reconsider. You literally lost the game to deny Mengu 2 life and a 2/1.

[@argonnas2]

@@CardmarketMagic you kept hitting the sac outlet instead of the Kitchen i dunno bout that.

[@CardmarketMagic]

@definitelynotmany4972 I lost the game because Andrea topdecked perfectly 😅 having rewatched the match a bunch of times when editing the video, I usually can tell if something was a missplay when having to watch something a bunch of times again. In this case, I stand by my choice :) of you look at Andrea's deck, it's actually filled with a bunch of fluff. Statistically my play was correct, but no one can protect you from the king of topdecks :P

[@skyvoice1660]

@@definitelynotmany4972 By letting that 2/1 hit the board, Carl would have allowed Andrea's clock on him to triple. Carl was also effectively hell-bent and needed to draw to outs. And his 1K deck would have a lot more good draws than Andrea's lol. His Monumental Henge, into Teferi was a perfect example.

[@joefekete4384]

OMG it's Andrea!!!!

[@not_simon6983]

Always love to see this series

[@Bizinho323]

So, now you guys could bring us the same video but not using a deck that's supposed to counter the strongest one, just a regular and budget deck... that would b awesome too

[@schumerus6786]

Haha neat little combo! Just unfortunate it’s vulnerable to counterspells as Mengu is not playing blue to retaliate

[@iandegiovani4703]

Whos is this misterious guest? I cant recognize him without the scarf.

[@alfredofranceschini5606]

Always mengu n1❤❤❤ Hope to see you in Senigallia soon ❤❤

[@davidtikwa423]

i do have to say Carl not using the Phlage triggers to kill teh creatures felt liek a deliberate way to extend the video and to give the deck out

[@jacobisbell9388]

What creatures was he supposed to kill with Phlage? The kitchen finks that comes back, gives Andrea life, then blocks phlage for even more life? Or the 3/4 that wouldn't die from the trigger?

[@davidtikwa423]

@@jacobisbell9388 killing the fink before the solemnity hit the field would give it a -1/-1 and would sever the link. Felt like he aimed a bit weird with his triggers here and there

[@skyvoice1660]

@@davidtikwa423 in the second game, he definitely never had a good chance to do that. In the first game, he had to choose between taking out the fink or the vamp with the galvanic discharge before solemnity resolved. If he left the vampire on the battlefield, he was immediately dead on board if Andrea had any persist creature in hand, which would have been 7 cards. If he left the fink, he'd be dead by infinite life combo to any sac outlet, viscera seer or the vamp. At that time, 6 cards. So I think mathematically, he made the right call.

[@EmbeJuicemazzopazzo]

that decklist is sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet!

[@connorprice3605]

I had this idea of a deck with Multanis presence and chalis of the void on 0. The basics of it is that you run lots of 0 mana cards that get countered by chalis then draws a card by Multanis presence then you draw more 0 mana spells and so on. Then have a way to end the game with like storm or something. I've been trying to make a deck list but nothing is working for me but you should take a go. Feel free to take this idea anyone and I hope some of you can make a deck. (I understand that this would be really inconsistent but it might work.) Have a wonderful day all who read this entire comment.

[@alexkuzela9266]

Mengu once again showing that its not the plane, its the pilot.

[@OtakuNoShitpost]

>€100 >Budget Thats, like, 5 budget decks in my book

[@blackfox2061]

Just love for you guys!