Canada's Kinder Morgan pipeline explained

[@Codester86]

Honestly, I'm surprised CBC enabled comments on this.

[@riahriggs]

4 real tho

[@dawnpalmby5100]

Me too. I think it's the first I've ever been able to comment on any CBC report.

[@nillermatic18]

Why not give us a huge break at the pumps. For being an oil producing country it is criminal what we pay for gas. It is the country's oil so taking it from us then selling back at huge rates should not be allowed. We should also refine it in country instead of shipping it out then back to us again and have more steady refining jobs instead of temporary construction jobs.

[@Mallory-Malkovich]

Millermatic18 We already pay far less for gas than most other countries due to subsidized oil and gas.

[@nunyabizness7579]

Our gas is relatively cheap, it’s all the taxes they put on it that makes it so high.

[@antiprogpragmatist859]

don684 ...a well thought out and informative response

[@Eric-lx8hp]

Vancouver has the highest gas prices in North America

[@harryhightower]

Millermatic18 those asses don't care they get what ever they can any way they can it's called exploiting the poor and middle class so they can get even more they don't need or can use in a 100 life times it makes no sense why are they so Greedily.

[@frankzappa9930]

I'm all for this, in light of the current political situation. I'm tired of the US pulling our strings and holding petty issues (dairy tariffs) against us. I say, sell our oil to the Asians and stop selling to the US, and while we're at it, turn off the taps that feed the US. We need to find alternative buyers for our crude, so that we don't have to play second fiddle to US political moods. While we're at it, let's invest and build a refinery or 2 so that we can produce or own gas and sell it to Canadians at a discount, instead of shipping crude to the US, letting them refine it, then ship it back to us at inflated prices.

[@Jbourbz]

I appreciate your enthusiasm and seeing the American BS, however USA is our biggest ally and a protector so pissing off a behemoth right below us probably isn’t the best course of action but I do see your point.

[@matthewbennett4491]

I’m more worried about animals and there habitats I feel like we’ve gone to far and destroyed a lot of habbitats just to make money but it isn’t a bad thing either because of well masking money

[@Nobody-qh7hk]

Money feeds people.

[@pushfacefunny]

Notice how this video said nothing about the environment. It's like some people literally don't see nature

[@bovellois]

You did not see the killer whales?

[@pushfacefunny]

Actually to send bitumen through a pipeline it needs to be treated (diluted) and heated, unlike a rail car where the bitumen is more solid. Sure, the frequency of rail spills is greater on rail, but the volume lost is less and easier to clean up. Oil tankers are the real threat, which would be increased 7x

[@mastersonogashira1796]

michael b well looks like you don't see human

[@ianfalconer2215]

Alberta needs to shut down all hydrocarbon shipments to BC and put an environment surcharge on all BC gas shipped across Alberta

[@dennyspancakes]

Yes!!👏🏻

[@DirtyDanRacimg]

Agreed

[@pegihadrianto9356]

Why may I ask?

[@sallylee4924]

All this debate around the pipeline is taking focus away from the REAL ISSUE!!! The debate shouldn't be on if a pipeline expansion is good or bad, or if we need it or not, or if it is good for the Canadian economy or not. The real debate should be this: Can this money be spend on other projects? How does the cost-benefit analysis look for these alternative projects look when compared to the pipeline expansion? The Harper government has stalled Canada in technological advances for 10 years. We had failed to diversify our economy when the oil price was high. This is why the Canadian dollar was hit so hard when the oil price dropped. We should learn from that mistake, and 1) shift the economy away from resource extraction, 2) diversify the economy and 3) invest in technology. For or against pipeline expansion, you cannot deny the fact that oil is on it's way out. We are running out of oil to burn and we are increasingly shifting away from using oil. The Canadian government needs to have more foresight and prepare for this inevitability. Wouldn't it be great if we become the world leader in whatever technology that replaces oil in the future, instead of struggling to survive as the world demand for oil twiddles? We can learn so much from Norway.

[@VinnyOho]

1 billion over 20 years depending on profits sounds like complete garbage, not even worth it.

[@RSoles-hz9nc]

Why is this country so bent on selling crude oil, in today’s world of trying to turn green why wouldn’t we build refineries here where the refining process can be somewhat policed. We pay inflated prices for fuel at the pumps because we don’t refine enough fuel for our own country and have to import. The Chinese want our fuel but to sell them crude would definitely fan the fires of global pollution as I’m sure they would be refining right on the boat on the way home dumping overburden into the ocean. If we have to sell off our natural resources it would make more sense to sell a finished product all while doing the world a favour by processing here.

[@daviddavis5689]

Its like the US really. Trying to build a new refinery is near impossible to even estimate the end cost. Not even the number of years to get clearance is known much less final cost. This is testimony by Lloyd's experts on subject. There for no one wants to build what cost is unknown or finish time. That is why in US what is and has happened is huge expansion of existing refineries. Much of the pump price reflects taxes as it is in States where the price varies widely plus special blends required for weather or environmental laws. Really no different than auto cost that burns the fuel. Government provided benefits have cost in taxes on someone.

[@juniperabbott2614]

@@don-cw1yz I don't understand a lot of this...this is all new to me..I need to understand...please advise? Thanks.

[@boduke2522]

mayors residents and the first nation people who owned the land long before u all got here over 12000 yrs, you forgot to say that

[@TheSkidon]

Almost criminal in lack of information. CBC dumbing down to validate uncritical analysis.

[@willoverkill]

There will be only 90 direct new jobs after construction but 36,910 new "tub boat pilots, engineers, environmental monitors, safety inspectors and more"? Hard to believe

[@onionnring]

This is horrible. I am not well educated in this topic..but even I can see that this is not good for us. Sure there are pros and cons to everything, but once we destroy mother nature, it cannot be undone. Canada is a vast country with beautiful land and sea..we need to protect it no matter what "good" this pipeline can bring. This is a HUGE RISK.

[@mumod784]

Thank you for sharing that Canada emits 1.7% of the world emissions, this might seem like a small number to you but considering we only make up 0.466% (35million/7.5billion) of the worlds population, we are polluting significantly more than our share. Further you said canada is one of the greenest countries in the world, this is inaccurate unless your referring to the color of the landscape. The fact is Canada scores a grade of "D" among its peer countries, countries like switzerland, UK, Norway, Belgium and several others rank above Canada in terms of the environment. Finally, Canada is not a acting as a sink, it is still carbon positive, meaning it produces more carbon than our forests can consume. Keep in mind most of our land is covered in ice and ice consumes no carbon. The study you seemed to have gotten your statement from assumed all of Canada's land is capable of carbon consumption. Our forests also aren't very good at consuming carbon, the tropical forests (not located in Canada) are significantly better at consuming carbon. Projects like these pipelines threaten to destroy the unspoiled wilderness you are referring to, just because we have it now doesn't mean we can be reckless in its treatment and expect it to stay so magnificent.

[@bovellois]

Meanwhile our dear forests that were not farmed properly went up in smoke last summer, so there goes our CO2 balance sheet, out the window. Coniferous forests that are left untouched for 50 years turn into a giant gasoline can.

[@bovellois]

We burn the equivalent of over 200 oil tankers per day, this is like burning an area the size of the Amazonian forest every week. And that does not include coal. Only fools and Englishmen could not see what's wrong with that picture.

[@bovellois]

I agree about the arrogance. Governments have "wildlife management" policies, and the Canadian government now has a Ministry of Climate Change, which could be interpreted as having a role in changing climate, something that must be as simple as changing the tilt of the Earth :-)

[@bovellois]

Pollution and over consumption are a major issue though. I dare pollution deniers to spend one night in a garage with their car running. There won't be any denier left in the morning.

[@exkalibur25ca]

Good job CBC. Content aside, the production of this is absolutely top shelf. Love to see more like this.

[@brentholyrider1075]

Put that pipe where it don't shine

[@rgl1958]

Nobody is demonstrating against the existing pipeline,.... Why the hell is the CBC letting their name be attached attached to this ad?

[@billhamm1611]

No pipeline needed. One hour of Dildeau’s smugness could power the Canadian grid for several years.

[@TraderJam1]

This is demoracy at its worst The economy of Canada is stunted by scared burial grounds

[@Nonplused]

1,000,000 liters over almost 70 years!! Why don't you tell us how many milliliters it would be??? 1,000,000 liters is about 85,000 barrels and the Deep Water Horizon was spilling that almost per day. Plus the technology is better now the Scada shuts the pipeline down pretty much the instance the oil coming out doesn't equal the oil going in, so these large spills are much more unlikely now.

[@daviddavis5689]

The reality is crude is made into 30K essential products besides gasoline. We might replace by 2030 most gasoline vehicles at best but that leaves a huge number of other products needing replacement to eliminate fossil fuels. Heck china is allowed to increase its carbon pollution levels until 2030 when it has to start reduction and plus India is majority of increased carbon released in air. If one shifts sooner then it has at least huge initial cost to production cost and GDP One always has to remember that crude is a natural product ;its the refined products that are not. Crude can be easily made to fertilizer by adding bacteria for example. The oceans bottom leaks crude after all constantly.

[@tomusa9781]

No 1,000,000 liters is 6,290 barrels or an average of 90 barrels a year. If a little leaks out it's not the end of the world. These lines are heavily instrumented and will shut off and isolate if anything goes wrong. For now Trudeau and his lap dog the CBC will try to screw this up but it will get fixed when he leaves.

[@isailwind3471]

Screw the pipeline, refine our own oil, what the hell are we shipping it out for to get refined then buying it back, freakin ridiculous!

[@roccolanoincanada5729]

Build baby build... we desperately need more pipeline capacity and should also be constructing refineries

[@beaviswealth]

Thanks for the well put-together video. Great editing.

[@thewwwdude]

Why does a news agency find it necessary (appropriate) to use this info-mercial format to cover this issue? REALLY feels like an endorsement. Can media kindly stop doing that, and just do their jobs? That would be great.

[@bobramsay4355]

Great! time to replace the old one lets get on with it. Oil is not going anywhere for awhile last time I checked were still driving combustion engine autos and that will be for at least for 20 more yrs. yet .

[@joncormier1581]

Bob Ramsay Thank you for the support. Basic support for our Economy has become far too rare.

[@candlingeggs7159]

Is it earthquake resistant?

[@Orionwayz]

It aint happening, no pipelines. Let it go, now move on.

[@mastaballa86]

Trudeau a annoncé que le projet de pipeline allait de l'avant aujourd'hui...

[@c.neekan9118]

Well id like 1 million. So i can flip it n flip it n flip it so i can build ky home land ip. And not just keep it with contaminated water. No toilets. Still using outhouses. Everyone would benifit except the already invisible. .

[@alpha_vancity]

To be honest i have been in vancouver since 2014.I think people in Canada need a better life.That’s only possible if we refine the oil in Canada and sell it to other countries.If I’m wrong proof me right.

[@adfadfewfrewafawefaw]

team up with Tesla and do what they did in Australia. come folks its 2018

[@provinceofb.c3399]

The people of Canada the pipeline would be ripping them off

[@wildfoottv3217]

Wow cbc forgot to disable the comments

[@Tryingtoimproveeveryday-e3d]

This is helpful for research

[@scarletxoxo6757]

LIES!!!!

[@coolworx]

Talkin' like it's a done deal. It ain't.

[@michaelmegale1589]

Why journalists should not explain economics - no consideration for the federal tax revenues that will be generated from selling product into foreign markets - $10B plus per year

[@43bobbyg]

Balance is needed Not extremism. At the end of the day Canada is still a carbon producer nation.Wait until this current PM bankrupts or spins the country past the point of return an the economy tilts.There will be no easy fixes .Once the new bond holders gobble up the last vestiges of state assets an Corporations take over an displace democracy . This event will be made to look like going to Sunday school.Balance , tact ,an respect for the environment need to be carefully weighed an thoughtful compromises need to negotiated in order to move forward.NAFTA is being sacked by our neighbour to the south by POTUS an implications of all actions need to be tempered an measured with smart planning .The dollar inflation an future depend on complex series of actions to self preserve what we have left in Canada.

[@Cballin]

Rachel notley is scared and desperate, how about negotiating instead of making threats towards BC

[@AdrianLeeMagill]

When are governments going to start listening to people? We do not want this pipeline. No matter what they say about responsibility, the companies will weasel out of it. No matter how safe they say the pipeline is there will be a "mistake" somewhere along the line. (Ask Sundre Alberta residents to drink their water.) The people need to take charge of their governments.

[@elizalee1214]

You need to know where the cash for warefair is coming from. No business, no tax and no cash for warefair!

[@Mrnumber]

Who is "we" in this comment?

[@Redneckboy991]

Here's a great idea. Lets turn off the tap to all oil that flows to BC. The hypocrites only seem to want just enough oil to power their vehicles. Any fuel that would be remotely available would rise to over $2.00/liter. Maybe they would prefer more tanker traffic to import their oil from the corrupt dictatorship of Venezuela. Alberta could tighten the screws so hard that the hypocritical eco-freaks would be walking to protests in support of pipelines.

[@TjEvo1]

Currently drinking and washing my dishes with tap water ain sundre ab. What are you talking about.

[@waynemilligan6649]

Recent polls have shown that even in BC, more people support the pipeline than oppose it. The majority of Canadians and a plurality of British Columbians support the TM expansion. You're a vocal whiny minority with delusions of grandeur.

[@joegladue8339]

Bc is beautiful if they ever had a spill there it would be a nightmare

[@joncormier1581]

joe gladue You should swing by some of the slums outside major cities. Towns that are depending heavily on the growth of our primary export.

[@cliffordmatson9566]

Interesting the difference in the number of jobs being created from 90 to 3400. Iwould say they really don't know anymore than the 90 and beyond that is just a guess.

[@738polarbear]

Yes 90 FULL TIME jobs is a real benefit This pipeline only helps China and Alberta.

[@joncormier1581]

738polarbear yikes. Read a basic economics pamphlet while on the toilet or something.

[@jordiedobbie795]

Alberta says it’s not BC’s coast line to protect... so how is it alberta’s oil to sell?

[@shelbyrichard4857]

No means no

[@habanerojalapeno9898]

BC resident will allow the pipeline If the gas price at the pump only 70 cents/litre Make it happen come on We will support you

[@simonfan013]

It's not that bad I pay $1.80 constantly for the enviroment its worth it

[@joncormier1581]

Simon Fan even at the sacrifice of our struggling economy? Grow up.

[@sca696]

how is it hard to predict how many jobs there will be, it has been operational for decades, and they know how many people it has taken to make that happen, so it easy to predict how many more you will need with it doubled, it's like a say wall mart, if you have 100 people working it and you bouble the size you will know based on the last 50yrs what you had to what you need,,

[@no1sebfan]

yes once the pipelines are built then they will only hire people to clean the oil spills... pretty much it.

[@joncormier1581]

no1sebfan Where did you come up with that idea? Pipelines require maintenance, construction, and operation. I’m not trying to come off as caustic, but there’s tones of information online reinforcing the projects benefits that I recommend you read before spreading misinformation.

[@Vancouver4u]

Amen to that !!!!!

[@bctw9004]

Don’t like oil? Ride your bicycle or horse to work.

[@balanced4harvest552]

Vegans and AR'st deem using Draft Animal's exploitation!

[@joegladue8339]

The government can't always be bullies I'm glad first nations people stepped up to stop this

[@joncormier1581]

joe gladue Many of the First Nation residents couldn’t care less about the Canadian economy and I am getting the same impression from you. I sure wish our economy wasn’t oil based, but it is, and we are damn good at it. Taking advantage of this will benefit our grandchildren.

[@garciacontracting]

Sale the crude South to the USA for les or sealing it in the West at going rate? Which one? Transporting it by train or by pipe? A pipe going one way at high pressure and speed emptying directly to the oil tanker vs train wagons going across the Rocky Mountains and then empty one or two at the time? Mmmm which one is more economical If a train transporting crude oil derails, the mess in all in the surface, and then seeps in. and there is no way to stop the wagons to empty themselves vs automatic valves that if any changes of pressures is detected, it shoots down the flows. The main social pressure must be in pouting the valves at close intervals, and in all sensitive areas, oblige the pipeline to fill the area with oil absorbing materials, that in case of accident or sabotage, will be minimise, contained and clean up and recuperated. There are big interests from the South of the border, to continue to sale South cheap. It happens with all our resources, electricity, gas, oil, timber, minerals….. Is this the main mission of Canada? To sale cheap and in largest possible quantities to the USA? Is this our main right? Wake up, both sides of the debate, Canada need the revenues, the jobs, but also the security that it is done properly, and guaranteed. The owners must be liable and must be bonded for performance, as any builder The other one will be FAIR MONETARY COMPENSATION TO THE AFECTED LAND OWNERS

[@crystalidx]

Alberta says that they will build the pipelines and BC will pay for it.

[@rebeccajin5673]

just like how Trump is gonna build a wall and Mexico will pay for it

[@eds032456]

And!

[@simpleravenraven6358]

Some time soon oil will not be needed for engines and electricity. Start it now regardless of jobs. Jobs will diminish a lot soon when self driving vehicles come on line. We have to solve some big problems. @20 hour work week can begin now. Its a new world we live in.

[@simpleravenraven6358]

We are not without oil. The problem is the smoke from burning it and it will have to stop if we follow the prime directive. Survive in the long run. The technology is here but not the political will. Lets hope that we can educate enough people in time, which is running out. We don't need a lot of work just to line the pockets of few.

[@momagainstguns2959]

And how do you think we will power other things that need oil or your plastic bottles or you rubber washers on machines etc

[@simpleravenraven6358]

Time to catch up on 2018. Use google.

[@mitchellcalkins]

they will pay depending on economic performance... that's like only feeding your child via it's report card.

[@joncormier1581]

Mitchell Calkins What else would come from improving the efficiency of our primary export? Basic economics.

[@jaspercottrell1140]

Living on Vancouver Island I do not support the pipeline. People don’t look at the effects it will have on the environment. Water will be much more polluted. Orcas will be driven out of here due to noise by ships and lack of food, not to mention if it spills some of the effects it will have will ruin the coast. Most people in Canada don’t understand this very much. Not to mention it will spill cause we are in an earthquake active area so if a big earthquake happens it will be very bad. Cause you won’t be able to clean it up cause the harbours will be destroyed or damaged.

[@alainarchambault2331]

Wow, this is dated.

[@ufotrailers7131]

This will do great for Canada building it's GDP so we can get more services and continue to improve our healthcare system. So think before you VOTE!

[@brendanhansellvideo]

Trickle down eh

[@bartbattista6295]

We need pipeline's going east. Pipelines going west wexit.

[@sniperammow4865]

I believe the pipeline needs to be made.

[@dawnpalmby5100]

What a load of propaganda.

[@jehanmuse330]

why don't just use electric vehicle?

[@momagainstguns2959]

what you think the tires on the vehicle are made of

[@jehanmuse330]

reduce it..not get rid of it.. love nature go green..

[@SS0895]

The pipeline benefits Canadians. We’re talking royalties, taxes, jobs. A spill is not guaranteed, but if the pipeline is not built, we ARE guaranteed to lose out on billions (as we already are). The States are on track to be leading global oil production by end of 2018, all the while buying our oil at an absolutely ridiculous discount, because Alberta has no other market available. Why some people can’t accept environmental risk for economic prosperity while simultaneously investing in green energy, I will never understand.

[@Ryesagain]

As someone else says, why do we have to ship it out of the country and buy it back? also 8/11 oil spills that have happened in the last 11 years and the total was over 153000 tonnes of oil. That is just in Canada. I don't understand why we are selling our oil for "an absolutely ridiculous discount"? Why are we getting the short end of the stick?

[@SS0895]

Alexi Thunderbird we are investing in more refineries, so that does help us from buying back. We’re selling at huge discounts because we have no one else to sell to, and the pipelines are backed up. Naturally the US will say “if we’re your only customer, then we’ll take it for half”. We have no choice. With coast access, we can sell oil to whoever at full price. Spills may or may not happen, it’s not a given. There’s a whole industry on prevention and remediation so obviously we do what we can

[@habanerojalapeno9898]

Alexi Thunderbird In other country called Corruption Do you know "kick back" commision that all it is

[@Rosscifer]

The pipeline will take 50 years to pay for itself if it ever does. This is pure corporate welfare. thetyee.ca/Analysis/2018/05/30/Kinder-Morgan-Deal-Not-Adding-Up/

[@reforest4fertility]

CBC just reported an over 100,000 litre oil leak in Northern Alberta. We don’t want this in BC. And we’d rather have positive jobs, rather than these which set up disaster and feeds the $ub$idi$ing foreign (Texan ex Enron executives) interests. Canadian taxpayer money should be invested in Canada first, then where truly needed, not to push thru bad business decisions. Let’s make B.C. beautiful again!

[@matttraer6190]

I support real news.

[@KobiGamesYT]

Free Alberta K.A.C

[@janicem4382]

This need some Big fact checking!!!

[@jamesclarity1077]

Jobs jobs jobs people need jobs

[@dywlrud]

So many tree huggers here lol

[@DrOxide-ye8lc]

How the Whales suppose to see? How do they see properly? kzbin.info?o=U&video_id=zUO07j_iuh8

[@PascalCFortin]

gas is on the way out so why built an other pipe line

[@richardblais5232]

Killing the Planet Explained ...

[@ocirontariocryptidinvestig8010]

I wonder how much money justin was paid to sign off on this.

[@thefozzybear]

Comments have been disabled. WAKKA! WAKKA! WAKKA!

[@Felix-z2r]

37,000 people to mKe sure of those safety concerns, that we are told will never happen with ten times more oil going to ports and yes, Canada's biggest earthquake prone area.

[@gordfreeborn286]

Whether you believe the economics of the expansion or not it is about the moral aspect. We have a Federal government standing up on the world stage saying we as a country will be leaders in the battle over climate change! We will have a mandatory carbon tax across the country to facilitate the necessary changes - and who pays the tax, in the end the consumer - the little guy! Meanwhile big oil companies continue to reap huge profits, our government - royalties and to make it all a big hoax, Canadian oil producers claim doubling production over the next decade - so who are the fools?

[@momagainstguns2959]

facebook.com/arkanecalibration/photos/a.1969253829973514.1073741832.1474658062766429/2083187985246764/?type=3&theater this is what you have now duhhhh

[@jerrybear3081]

finally some news

[@ianfalconer2215]

Alberta needs to shut down all hydrocarbon shipments to BC and put an environment surcharge on all BC gas shipped across Alberta

[@jaysunoscalleigh2382]

Yeah, then the port of Vancouver could shut the door on all shipments bound for Alberta...fair trade?