CanaKit Raspberry Pi 4 with 8GB RAM Uboxing and Setup (including fan)

In this video we'll take a look at the all new CanaKit 8GB (of RAM) Raspberry Pi 4 Starter MAX Kit! We will unbox, assemble and load up the RAM with a slew of applications to really test the system.
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[@drjaye1962]

thx 4 the vid....hey brother i used your video step by step n now im feelin fine....got my Pi 4b 8gb w/128gb storage whohoo up n running no worries mate, came from a Pi 3b + w1gb ram n 16gb storage....i look 4 this 2 be a game changer....keep the vids coming....mine is Cana Kit Extreme ($150) thats all they had in stock, very happy....peace

[@WagnersTechTalk]

Thanks bro, I can feel the excitement in your post! Thanks for your support and tuning in. I can only hope that future videos get you this pumped up. Got some really fun stuff coming... Catch ya on the next one!

[@WagnersTechTalk]

If you're looking for another fun OS to try on your Pi, TwisterOS is pretty cool. It gives you a Windows or Mac look and feel and a few other pre-installed apps. that will make using your Pi more fun. I would install it to a separate microSD for playing around with it (don't erase what you've already got working). If interested, you can check it out here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qWPJZWqQmNioe8k

[@ollyoctavian]

EWas e Okay lol sheer es E I e EeI I E We

[@sorinm221]

Thank you as an absolute beginner with no knowledge you broke down the set up of the kit perfectly

[@WagnersTechTalk]

Glad it was helpful, thank you for your kind comments!

[@w3mct]

Thank you for the next, still waiting for my Pi4 to arrive.

[@WagnersTechTalk]

Hope you enjoy it!

[@sbkpilot1]

thanks for the review.. just ordered the kit from Canakit 👍

[@WagnersTechTalk]

Very welcome, happy you enjoyed it and hope you enjoy your new Pi 4 8GB!

[@Gamer317.]

Awesome video, just got my pi today and this really helped. I was too poor to get the kit so I just got the accessories separately.

[@WagnersTechTalk]

Glad I could help!

[@MrKbtor2]

Great video, helped me out a lot! Fortunately the kit received didn't change much from the video in 3 years.

[@WagnersTechTalk]

Thank you, happy to hear it was helpful to you!

[@FlutterMapp]

Thanks for the tuto Wagner!

[@WagnersTechTalk]

Most welcome, hope you found it helpful!

[@suminshizzles6951]

I have the 4gb kit with a clear see through acrylic case. One issue i have with the unit is that the cooling intake holes are so small. They are in the shape of a raspberry and block more than half the fan making the fan almost useless. It was advised to take a dremel and cut out a circle the size of the actual fan. I am going to do this. Other than that this is one cool piece of kit.

[@haridathnihal3154]

WOW very informative and straight to the point ......

[@WagnersTechTalk]

Thank you, glad you found it helpful!

[@ats8551]

Awsome video I can't wait to set up mine I got for my birthday!

[@WagnersTechTalk]

Happy birthday, hope you enjoy it! How do you plan on using your Pi4?

[@ats8551]

@@WagnersTechTalk To play with my best friends

[@WagnersTechTalk]

Awesome! If it's Retro Games you're wanting to play, here's some information that might be helpful: wagnerstechtalk.com/rpi4gaming/#Official_RetroPie

[@ats8551]

@@WagnersTechTalk it's has really good pixel art but I don't think it's retro it's call terraria me and my friend who moved to pc want play it and my other friend plays alot of it

[@Gio-yz8rm]

I feel the same way! Mines coming in tomorrow

[@johnarrington6292]

Very nice job, thanks!

[@WagnersTechTalk]

Thank you!

[@themikeandike3862]

Thanks for the video man!!

[@WagnersTechTalk]

You bet, thanks for watching! I've got a lot more on different cases, kits and here wagnerstechtalk.com

[@patrickbhardwaj007]

Thanks for the stress test.

[@WagnersTechTalk]

Any time!

[@Cyko..]

Aww man, I feel ripped off. Mine didn't come with a 64 GB micro SD card nor a USB card reader. That's pretty cool you got those. I just got my Raspberry Pi 4 recently and have been too busy at work to install it but this video will be very helpful when I do so, because the video link CanaKit provided on the included card was just taking the Raspberry Pi out and placing it in the case and that was it. No video about the heatsinks or fan which I know are important. I'm not a total noob though. I took out my Raspberry Pi 3 the other day I had stored away for a couple years and it booted up just fine into EmulationStation. Played a couple retro games and remembered to bring up the menu to shut down safely. The fact this comes with a power on and off switch blows my mind.

[@WagnersTechTalk]

If you ordered this kit and didn't receive the USB card reader and 64GB microSD card, definitely contact CanaKit. They are very responsive (at least, from what I've seen) and should get you squared away pretty quick.

[@timmy2310]

I got the kit for my 1up mod and love it.

[@WagnersTechTalk]

Awesome, great to hear!

[@infotruther]

What's a lup mod what language I's that?

[@infotruther]

@timmy is a lup mod?

[@UDoIt2]

Great video! I try to only buy CanaKit. My last RPi video was about setting up Mono running a .Net application on the CanaKit.

[@WagnersTechTalk]

I love .NET, haven't written any code in C# in sometime but love the language. I watched your video several months ago and that is exciting that .NET apps. can be run on the Pi. Have you tried installing Mono Develop on the Pi? Thank you for watching John, are a huge inspiration! Check out the right sidebar here: kzbin.info and you'll find your channel!. I love watching the content you provide, U Do It right!

[@UDoIt2]

@@WagnersTechTalk OMG thank you so much for adding my channel to your feature list! I vaguely remember saying something to you on your techtalk facebook page about the power of youtube. You are one of the few who have taken action. 80k views for the last 28 days is excellent growth. I tweeted about your channel and latest vid as well. Congrats on your success. Thank you for sharing MonoDevelop tip with me. I will begin to dig into this right away. I have been writing .NET for the last 9 years in my career and look forward to plowing through this, especially with the GUI portion of it.

[@WagnersTechTalk]

Thank you so much John, I appreciate the tweet and your kind comments! I quickly tried to install MonoDevelop on my RPi 4 and wasn't successful. Apparently there was some deprecated library which it needs. However, I've not tried this here is a possible solution in this thread: github.com/mono/monodevelop/issues/9477 Just incase you want to give it a go. Would be awesome to get it working. I did try it sometime ago using Stretch on a Pi 3b+ and it worked at that time.

[@UDoIt2]

@@WagnersTechTalk I was looking at avalonia yesterday. I think it will give you a GUI that you can stylize within a .Net app that runs in Mono. I have to try that.

[@WagnersTechTalk]

Very cool, I've not tried Avalonia myself and you've probably already found this but here's some instructions that may work (from last year, so not sure): github.com/AvaloniaUI/Avalonia/wiki/Run-an-Avalonia-application-on-Raspberry-Pi

[@WJ6FRadio]

Outstanding video! CanaKit now has an Extreme Kit with a 128 GB scan disk. It may be my next purchase. As I mentioned elsewhere. I need to put together one or two Raspberry Pi 4 (4 GB or 8 GB) that I can use with PI Hole for stopping adds and an in home hacking machine to keep a certain teenager on her homework instead of online shopping....

[@WagnersTechTalk]

Awesome, thank you! What I wanted to share with you was this link: wagnerstechtalk.com/maqueenplus/ It's going to be the subject of my next video and if your teenager needs something fun to do this might be it (to keep him/her away from on-line shopping). My goal is to have at least 2 videos in the next month or two geared towards helping parents/teachers get their kids interested in new technologies. Been working (i.e. playing) with this robot a few days now and it's impressive! Anyway, hope you find the info. useful!

[@WJ6FRadio]

@@WagnersTechTalk By the way do you happen to have a video on how to do remote access to the PI 4? Thanks much!

[@WagnersTechTalk]

Yes I do, video and full written instructions here: wagnerstechtalk.com/retropietips/

[@WJ6FRadio]

@@WagnersTechTalk Outstanding! I am on it!

[@williamhart4896]

Nice looking kit from canakit thanks for reviewing it

[@WagnersTechTalk]

Very welcome William, thank you for watching

[@bethoucleanenvironmental]

🥳Just received my Ras. Pi4 today! I opted for the 8GB RAM, 128GB Memory Version. Absolutely Thrilled! I have been reading and reviewing this for a few months. Finally have one! I watched the video first, now my next move is to get an ESD Setup for Installation. Some that are familiar may think it is obvious, but NOOBS (newbs) may think it is okay to handle/install the PCB without ESD precautions. What do you think? And Thanks for the Review @WTT

[@WagnersTechTalk]

Awesome, congrats on your first Pi! Thank you for watching. Some will say (and have told me) ESD precautions are not necessary, I personally feel it's a good idea. I once worked in contract electronics manufacturing and it was mandatory to use ground straps and ESD smocks when handling any PCB. Using a ground strap ensures you never have a problem with your Pi. Also, the packaging in the box warns you about taking precautions, so clearly it's still a potential issue. Static electricity can do some serious damage to a chip. That said, I have handled Pi's by holding the fiberglass edges and honestly never had an issue. But, I prefer to side on caution, especially when others are watching me 😎 Anyways, got quite a bit more Pi 4 info. on my website if interested: wagnerstechtalk.com/rpi4 and if you plan on Pi 4 retro gaming this page: wagnerstechtalk.com/rpi4gaming

[@Kamla5abi86]

LOL at the wifi connections "FBI Surveillance Van" & "The Rabbit Hole" :D looks like you have some good neighbors with a great sense of humor haha. To ppl complaining about the RAM usage vs CPU, this is still using the 32bit OS for now. It's no surprise you don't max out RAM usage yet...

[@WagnersTechTalk]

Yeah, the WiFi SSID's around here are hilarious :) Agree with the rest of the stuff you wrote as well. Thanks for watching!

[@KnightDriveTV]

Thanks for this vid. Just got my pi 4 running here. The stress test at the end was unreal. Blender in Pi 4...wtf. Wasn't expecting anywhere near that for some reason. Feel like internet windows load slowly...is the wifi slow/weak. Can't run ethernet feasibly, wondering. Task manager with 2 windows is like nothin...crazy.

[@Ven12337]

Hey can you make a video for how to get up the gaming case that came in the box

[@WagnersTechTalk]

I'm sorry, which gaming case? If you're talking about the OpenCADE (3D Printed) case I have a number of videos on that here: wagnerstechtalk.com/opencade/

[@runicskaiser8942]

I got the kit and I also have the Nespi 4 case that has a big heat sink with a built-in fan. I am wondering would it be safe to overclock it with the new case. I am also adding a SSD 480 to it.

[@WagnersTechTalk]

I don't have that particular case, but as long as the fan is moving and has good airflow in/out, it "should" be fine.

[@infotruther]

I plan on learning distros.

[@WagnersTechTalk]

Please see my other reply to you where I provide more links/information. Hope it's helpful to you!

[@infotruther]

@@WagnersTechTalk I don't see any links anywhere

[@WagnersTechTalk]

@@infotruther re-posting my reply here... No problem, as a starting point I've got more info. on my website here: wagnerstechtalk.com/rpi4/ The video for PINN lite has links to the official Pi 4 keyboard and mouse as well as some other stuff shown in the video. You might also find the Pi 400 videos interesting as well. There is a lot of information on that page, so take your time and see exactly what it is you're wanting to play around with. If you're interested in Retro Gaming on the RPi 4/400, then definitely check out this page too: wagnerstechtalk.com/rpi4gaming . There I have how-to info. links and videos to step you through it. Once you've decided on what case you want, I have a few guides here on some of the more advanced cases: wagnerstechtalk.com/guides/#Raspberry_Pi_Cases . I know that's a lot to throw at you, take your time and have fun learning! I'll be here to help as best I can.

[@MarkReed-smokindeist]

I have essentially the same kit coming in--the difference is that it's a black case and it comes with a 128GB card. Is the cooling suitable for overclocking? What would be the fastest we could safely get away with?

[@WagnersTechTalk]

I don't often overclock, but when I do I don't go above 2Ghz usually. Doing so will void the warranty, though I've never had any issues as a result but again I don't do it unless I need to squeeze a little better performance. TwisterOS has a nice tool built in called Commander Pi which makes it super easy to overclock also.

[@brians3225]

hey im new to this. was wondering if esd isn't really a concern with these?

[@WagnersTechTalk]

It really depends on who you talk to. If you handle the board by touching the sides (fiberglass), you'll likely be fine. The Pi does come with a small booklet that warns about esd and why I mentioned it.

[@hunterdaves7783]

I’m kind of new to the computer world but like what kind of games will it run if any

[@WagnersTechTalk]

I have a number of guides and videos here, primarily for RetroGaming: wagnerstechtalk.com/rpi4gaming

[@E579Gaming]

The thing I like about the micro SD card is for like $50 you can upgrade the micro SD (Sandisk) to 256gb and only $80 for 400GB micro sd cards are great value

[@WagnersTechTalk]

Definitely agree!

[@E579Gaming]

@@WagnersTechTalk Thanks

[@genkiferal7178]

how much of that extra space have you ended up using?

[@aerorocketlaboratory2590]

Sir Please, make a separate video on CanaKit 3.5A Raspberry Pi 4 Power Supply, about its ampere draw and voltage, if possible inside circuit view, Their is no video on KZbin about CanaKit 3.5A Power Supply, nvidia jetson nano 2gb also supports it.

[@WagnersTechTalk]

I appreciate your feedback and request. I'll add it to my todo list, thanks!

[@sandeepnagendra7088]

Did you have any issues with loading 1080p video on youtube with dropping frames? I had that issue with my 4GB version and was debating if i want to get the 8GB version or not.

[@WagnersTechTalk]

I was recently watching NetFlix at 1080p using a new OS that I'm recording for the Pi 4 (video later this week). It played smoothly, but using a 4GB Pi 4. An 8GB Pi isn't going to run any faster or slower than a 4GB. What may help is overclocking your existing 4GB Pi to 2Ghz. I'd recommend checking out my Twister OS video, it includes a utility called Commander Pi. Overclock to the Recommended settings, try it on your Pi 4 4GB and see if that helps. You may want to use a different microSD (if you have an extra unused one) and check it out.

[@sandeepnagendra7088]

@@WagnersTechTalk That is very interesting. Now that you mentioned that Netflix worked fine, I am thinking could it be the youtube encoding which may be pushing the pi not to get the frames right. I will give Netflix a try and look into overclocking if that fails. Thanks !! And yes, I was skeptical that moving to a 8gb would help, but was not sure as the raspbian is 32 bit (so max 4 gig) plus my memory utilization was low when that was happening.

[@WagnersTechTalk]

Yes, the Pi foundation hasn't optimized the OS for video playback, from what I understand. It will work, but with some dropped frames. Just want to make sure you know going to an 8GB Pi isn't going to speed things up, just allow you to run more stuff concurrently. Hope that helps!

[@sandeepnagendra7088]

@@WagnersTechTalk Agreed. Staying with my 4gb one for now as I mainly use it as a ftp / media share server which it handles perfectly. Guess will be sticking to a Roku for streaming for now :)

[@sandeepnagendra7088]

@@WagnersTechTalk One interesting thing I did learn from this was that Netflix actually only plays 720p on chrome / Chromium with DRM / Firefox.

[@Avatar2874]

Great video can i use ZOOM app with this PI 4?

[@WagnersTechTalk]

I honestly don't know, you may want to check with Zoom or their website for an official answer. I would assume it would work but I've personally not used it.

[@tommyg957]

That could make for a nice desktop replacement for general use! I wonder how long it would take to reach the higher limits of the memory.

[@WagnersTechTalk]

Yes it would! I was very impressed with the kit and the HUGE number of applications you can run on it now. I'm wanting to check out the 64-bit Pi OS beta soon as well to see how well that performs.

[@tommyg957]

Wagner's TechTalk I’m also thinking ahead to the fall. They are talking about having half of the weekly days at school as in class with most being online. Could be nice to connect to the tv for my young ones schooling.

[@WagnersTechTalk]

I think it would work out nicely! Your child would have LibreOffice which includes a Word Processor, Spreadsheet, Presentation app., etc. Chromium web browser which works good for KZbin videos and plays well at 1080p (I don't have a 4k TV to try it with). There are several really good paint applications as well as Scratch (programming). My kids mostly use web-based tools for their school work and lessons. It should work out fine.

[@martin6901]

@@WagnersTechTalk I'm using the 64 bit Raspberry Pi OS - pretty stable! Slow with video, but the community is working on application updates regularly.

[@rjbook51]

If you use the stable 32bit OS, you are limited to 3gb for each process running. If you want to use it for streaming Netflix or Amazon Prime etc, then you have to be prepared to do some terminal work to install the spoofed version of chromium. But for other desktop use, I have found the 4gb unit great, once I installed everything I needed.

[@tony6261]

If I was going to run the OS from an SSD would I be able to navigate to the SSD during this process to up load the OS?

[@WagnersTechTalk]

If you connect a bootable OS via SSD (and nothing in the microSD slot), it will boot to the SSD. If you're wanting to install multiple OSes to the SSD, please see this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z3TUpZRqnNRna7c . If you just want to wipe the drive and start over with a new OS, my may want to check out the Network Bootloader here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rpvcgqJ_r7GKl8U

[@tombouie]

Thks, just a few quick questions. I want to put one inexpensive ubuntu computer on each HDTV in the home. 1st. @8:21, it seems an Ubuntu image can be downloaded (?is that the case?) 2nd. ?Is CanaKit a well-established/reliable company to get the raspberry pi4 from (ex: email tech support)? 3rd. ?Should I try to wait for the raspberry pi5 to come-out? Thks again

[@WagnersTechTalk]

Very welcome, I'll try to answer below: 1st. @8:21, it seems an Ubuntu image can be downloaded (?is that the case?) Yes, you can here's the link to download it: ubuntu.com/raspberry-pi 2nd. ?Is CanaKit a well-established/reliable company to get the raspberry pi4 from (ex: email tech support)? Yes, they have been very responsive to questions and their product reviews are great. I've been using their products for ~2 years now. 3rd. ?Should I try to wait for the raspberry pi5 to come-out? Can't answer this one, if I say "No" the Pi5 will probably be released tomorrow (I"m not in "the know", just joking). Really depends on if you want to start working with one today or wait months, year, etc.

[@tombouie]

@@WagnersTechTalkOh I thinks I'll wait on buying a raspberry piV4 & just use the PCs I have for-now. *The current raspberry pi4 is currently adaquate for a routine PC use but might become frustrating after a year or two into the future (ex: 4K video). Can a Raspberry Pi V4 be used as a Desktop PC - Full test and review (@15:00 his conclusions) kzbin.info/www/bejne/ooaVg5WHmLaDbqc *Right-now, I'll go with on an ardunio kit/projects & learning linux (& its dreaded-cmdline ;) until the piV5 arrive: The 5 Best Arduino Starter Kits for 2021 kzbin.info/www/bejne/g4CtaZaCd7-VeLc Again the piV5 is for everyday/routine computer stuff & the arduino is for geek electronics projects. Thks again

[@WagnersTechTalk]

The Pi 4 can be used as a routine PC, but totally understand your reason for waiting. It has been out for sometime and the Pi5 is "likely" not too far away. Arduinos are fun, built a custom robot a few years ago using x3 Arduinos and a Pi 3b+. It was a fun project I'd like to re-visit again in the future.

[@jonathantanji4425]

Just got this for Christmas and I’m interested in emulating games like Pokémon if possible any other cool things I can do? And is the 64 bot version out of beta yet? Setting mine up tomorrow

[@WagnersTechTalk]

Please see my guide here on installing RetroPie: wagnerstechtalk.com/rpi4gaming/#Official_RetroPie below that you'll also find 10 tips for RetroPie which will allow you to customize it even more. It should save a lot of time in hunting around various videos and websites.

[@jonathantanji4425]

@@WagnersTechTalk Thankyou really appreciate it and keep up the good work happy holidays!

[@WagnersTechTalk]

@@jonathantanji4425 Thank you Sir, Happy Holidays to you as well!

[@kedragon6460]

can tell me what the maximum memory card size for the raspberry pi 4 8gb is. before it was 32GB. What's up to GB now

[@WagnersTechTalk]

I've used a 512GB microSD card without issues. That's as high as I've taken it, I'm too cheap to go much higher but 1TB would likely work as well. I've answered this a little more here: wagnerstechtalk.com/rpi4gaming/#Common_Questions Hope it helps!

[@eagleeyeviewimages]

Where do you get all the programs you loaded on it? I am thinking of getting one

[@WagnersTechTalk]

From the Add/Remove Programs, see 11:26 for an example (it is very brief)

[@eagleeyeviewimages]

@@WagnersTechTalk thanks

[@eagleeyeviewimages]

I am loving your channel ty. I have a question. Do I continue to leave the 64g card in the slot all the time? If I want to use Kali what do I have to do? Sorry new to this system ☺️

[@WagnersTechTalk]

@@eagleeyeviewimages Thank you, happy you're enjoying the channel! Typically, yes you would leave the microSD card in the Pi4 all the time. There are more advanced (and faster) ways to use the Pi 4 including using an SSD drive, but the microSD is typically sufficient. You can also use a separate microSD to install Kali, shutdown the Pi, swap microSD's and then you'll be running another OS. One that I really like is TwisterOS, I've got an older video on that if you're interested ( here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qWPJZWqQmNioe8k ). They've made a lot of enhancements since this video and I'll be covering it in the not so distant future. However, there are a number of distributions that will work just fine on your Pi 4, nothing keeping you from trying them all :)

[@WagnersTechTalk]

@@eagleeyeviewimages Side note: you may also find my website helpful if you've not visited yet: wagnerstechtalk.com/rpi4 , lots of tutorials and information that I hope will prove helpful.

[@Balthazar2242]

2:52 FAN-tastic

[@WagnersTechTalk]

I see what you did there 😀

[@rjbook51]

It is a great kit, and I was very happy with my 4gb max kit. However, by the time you pay for the max kit, a keyboard, mouse and monitor (if you don't have them lying about) you are beginning to approach the cost of a low end chromebook. I sure would not upgrade from my 4gb model until USB boot and Raspberry Pi Os 64 bit is out of beta.

[@WagnersTechTalk]

If you already have a 4GB MAX kit, agreed it may not make sense until Pi OS 64-bit is out of beta. But, if you don't already have a Pi 4 or a 1/2GB unit then it makes sense. By the way, been playing with Twister OS on this kit and WOW, I like it so far!

[@rjbook51]

@@WagnersTechTalk I don't see the point in making Raspberry Pi Os look like Windows (shudder) or Mac OS (Oh the pain), lol. They do include the spoofed version of Chromium for streaming though. I am impressed with the 64bit version of Ubuntu 64bit with the XFCE desktop. It works well. And if you can break away from the Debian fold, Manjaro also works well. Waiting for the Raspberry Pi folks to catch up their OS to their hardware has become...tedious. "Wait" is a four letter word!

[@WagnersTechTalk]

I have tried Ubuntu MATE as well on the Pi and it is impressive. I think for Windows/Mac users just coming into the the Pi world, Twister is an interesting option from a usability standpoint. Even the WiFi configuration is nicely done, printing is a breeze too, overclocking is easily done, RetroPie pre-installed, lots of "interesting" reasons to take a look at Twister outside of just the familiar UI. At least, IMO.

[@eagleeyeviewimages]

Hi I tried the expand deal and it says basically I am running noobs and it is expanded but under file manager I see 26g. Could it be because I cloned from a 64g card.

[@WagnersTechTalk]

It will be automatically expanded by PiOS after you install the operating system. Noobs is to allow you to select what you want to install, once you do that the microSD will be overwritten with whatever you selected. This video shows more about noobs, if you need it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nJu4nHxofdxrmrs

[@patdbean]

Did you install the 32bit version of the OS? And sill got access to all 8gb of ram ?

[@WagnersTechTalk]

Yep, in a future video I will install Pi OS 64-bit (beta). But, for this video wanted to go with the released/stable version (Pi OS 32-Bit).

[@patdbean]

@@WagnersTechTalk interesting that the 32bit version can address Al the ram , must be some kind of paging arrangement

[@WagnersTechTalk]

I was wondering the same as a 32-Bit OS is typically limited to addressing a max of 4GB of RAM. However, I was consuming far beyond 4GB (also, one of the reasons I wanted to run this test). Not sure how the 32-bit version is handling it internally. It will be interesting to see how the 64-bit Pi OS runs as well.

[@AndrewAHayes]

Am I correct in thinking the 32 bit OS does not have access to all of the RAM?

[@WagnersTechTalk]

Not fully correct. A single application instance/process (i.e. chromium tab, instance of LibreOffice Writer, etc.) can each allocate up to 3GB of RAM. Of course, you can have multiple instances of each so yes you can actually use all 8GB of RAM on the 32-Bit Pi OS. Just not all 8GB from a single instance of an application. I hope this makes sense, I read this from a blog post (here: www.raspberrypi.org/blog/8gb-raspberry-pi-4-on-sale-now-at-75/ scroll down until you see "What about 64-bit?").

[@truckerdaddy-akajohninqueb4793]

So the OS runs off the SD card, right? Therefore I should use USB sticks to save files, right?

[@WagnersTechTalk]

Yes, the OS runs off the SD card. You can also write files to the microSD card and don't necessarily need a USB stick. If you'd rather use an SSD, you may find this case helpful as well: wagnerstechtalk.com/argonone/#Video_Reviews

[@truckerdaddy-akajohninqueb4793]

@@WagnersTechTalk Thanks. I was thinking that I should not use the SD card that the OS is on for safety sake.

[@WagnersTechTalk]

I have been for years, it's fine. Of course, for really important files backing them up to a 2nd drive (HD, USB, NAS) are always good to do.

[@snoopdoggdankkush9285]

Just got my 4GB of ram yesterday, should've waited only 15 dollars more ):

[@WagnersTechTalk]

I know what you mean, same has happened to me with other products.

[@infotruther]

You need to correct your statement.snoop

[@snoopdoggdankkush9285]

@@infotruther huh y? what happened?

[@MilitiaEnt17]

anyone know what the difference between the max and the extreme is other than the case and the lack of fan on the extreme? what are the benefits if any of having no fan other than noise? sorry im super new to this. any help is appreciated. thank you in advance

[@WagnersTechTalk]

The main difference between the two is one uses active cooling (fan), the extreme is passive (no fan). I've got a video on the Extreme case if you haven't seen it that should clarify a bit more: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nJu4nHxofdxrmrs

[@MilitiaEnt17]

@@WagnersTechTalk thank you. Ill check it out.

[@genkiferal7178]

If you'll use an ethernet cable, go look at the aluminum GeekWorm case. Supposedly, it is better at cooling than those tiny heat sinks and that tiny fan. If you use WiFi, the metal case may interfere with your signal (some say).

[@drjaye1962]

thx 4 the vid, I have sub/like n look 4ward to purchasing this, (my birthday soon) I currently have a Pi 3 b + (1gb) this should be a maj upgrade ($135.00)....plz keep us updated im gonna have lots O question ....ha ha...peace

[@WagnersTechTalk]

Very welcome, thanks for your support - very much appreciated! Happy early birthday and I'll try to help as much as I can. How are you mainly wanting to use your Pi 4?

[@drjaye1962]

Wagner's TechTalk ...I mostly use it 4 watching KZbin vids, but I would like 2 start a group around here @ K State to help others to learn

[@WagnersTechTalk]

Very cool! You might find my recent Twister OS video interesting. It gives your Pi a Windows 10 or OSX look to it but also has some pre-installed applications that make it worth checking out.

[@Larotian]

I applied the heatsink very badly, it's just off center a little bit on the RAM, i couldnt get it off, should i be worried?

[@WagnersTechTalk]

It will likely be fine, the main heatsink needed is for the CPU. Unless you encounter thermal throttling (small temp icon in the upper-right), I wouldn't be too concerned. You'll have better heat dissipation if you don't try to remove it (most likely).

[@infotruther]

I'm a noob and I don't know which programs to install? Haven't bought it yet. probably next week. And what about the Key board and mouse where can I get the RPI version?

[@WagnersTechTalk]

No problem, as a starting point I've got more info. on my website here: wagnerstechtalk.com/rpi4/ The video for PINN lite has links to the official Pi 4 keyboard and mouse as well as some other stuff shown in the video. You might also find the Pi 400 videos interesting as well. There is a lot of information on that page, so take your time and see exactly what it is you're wanting to play around with. If you're interested in Retro Gaming on the RPi 4/400, then definitely check out this page too: wagnerstechtalk.com/rpi4gaming . There I have how-to info. links and videos to step you through it. Once you've decided on what case you want, I have a few guides here on some of the more advanced cases: wagnerstechtalk.com/guides/#Raspberry_Pi_Cases . I know that's a lot to throw at you, take your time and have fun learning! I'll be here to help as best I can.

[@infotruther]

Tyvm 1, I'm not into gaming at all but I'm a researcher of politics and religion and technology.

[@genkiferal7178]

I got a quiet K295 keyboard and mouse from Logitech for $32 (including tax and shipping) and they share one dongle. I personally think that is a better deal since Logitech excels at mice and keyboards. This keyboard has ALL of the keys, too.

[@miltonalvarez3415]

Hola amigo , saludos desde Medellín -Colombia , una consulta , que debo de descargar para emular juegos retro , tiene , Bluetooth y wifi ?, gracias por compartir el video

[@WagnersTechTalk]

Hola amigo, en primer lugar, sí, el Pi4 tiene Bluetooth y WiFi. Para los juegos retro, es probable que desee RetroPie o Batocera. Ambas son excelentes opciones. Tengo una página dedicada a los juegos de Raspberry Pi 4 si estás interesado: wagnerstechtalk.com/rpi4gaming

[@miltonalvarez3415]

@@WagnersTechTalk Ok , muchas gracias, compré también el 8Bitdo Arcade Stick for Switch & Windows, está de lujo

[@WagnersTechTalk]

Yo también lo hice, pero aún no lo he abierto. Probablemente lo intentaré este fin de semana :) ¿Qué te parece?

[@miltonalvarez3415]

@@WagnersTechTalk Es excelente

[@manamnice]

Do u power off from the on/off button ?

[@WagnersTechTalk]

You would shutdown the Pi by clicking the icon/shutdown (just like in Windows or iOS), then flip the power switch. That way it will safely close all open files before removing power from the Pi. Hope this helps!

[@manamnice]

Thank you.

[@sbkpilot1]

if I installed the 32 bit OS and later decided to upgrade to the 64 bit I am assuming I will have to start over?

[@WagnersTechTalk]

Yes, that's correct. You could also use a different microSD and just swap it out for the 32/64-bit version. I do this a lot when testing different OS's.

[@infotruther]

@@WagnersTechTalk even I knew this and I'm a noob.lol

[@eagleeyeviewimages]

Me again lol I purchased a 228g sd card and coned my system on the 128g card but when I run df command it says I have 17122m available that doesn't seem right lol what am I missing 😁

[@WagnersTechTalk]

The microSD card should have been expanded for you during the first boot. If not, you can open a terminal window and type "sudo raspi-config" to expand the file system. More here: geek-university.com/raspberry-pi/expand-raspbian-filesystem/

[@elgs1980]

The CPU seemed to have started suffering when you loaded 2GB of RAM.

[@WagnersTechTalk]

Much of the CPU impact had to do with the fact that I was constantly adding more tabs/apps during the test. CPU was of course impacted by this constant launching/memory allocation. I gave the CPU no time to rest. Pi OS 64-bit may handle this better, but since it is in beta I didn't want to demonstrate beta software only the official released version, unless it's done in a separate video (which I likely will). I hope this helps.

[@MrSomeGamerdude]

when the only option to get the 8gb model is a complete kit (when you only need the pi and already have everything else), wait for a restock or spend more just for the pi 4 8gb.

[@genkiferal7178]

I just bought a partial kit - without the USB adapter for the microSD card and without the 2 monitor cables. The price, though, was only $10 less. The fan looks like a joke - so tiny. Supposedly, the geekWorm aluminum case is smarter than using heat sinks and a fan, but can interfere with WiFi is you aren't using an ethernet cable. And there are no instructions in the box I got about how to put the fan and heat sinks on.

[@alphaxray--echolima7297]

Hold on. If you have 8gb and download 32 bit, your Pi will only push 4gb and won’t get to use the full 8gb. I think this applies for windows too ..am I right?

[@WagnersTechTalk]

Not exactly correct, please see this blog post: www.raspberrypi.org/blog/8gb-raspberry-pi-4-on-sale-now-at-75/ particularly the section that reads "What about 64-bit?". Key point there is this statement: "Our default operating system image uses a 32-bit LPAE kernel and a 32-bit userland. This allows multiple processes to share all 8GB of memory, subject to the restriction that no single process can use more than 3GB. For most users this isn’t a serious restriction, particularly since every tab in Chromium gets its own process."

[@infotruther]

Is cana a Canadian company?

[@WagnersTechTalk]

Yes it is!

[@infotruther]

Cool ty

[@infotruther]

Thought so

[@JohnnyEvilsVids]

I paid for 2 day shipping and a week later nothing yet. lol. they have got to be busy shipping these things out!

[@WagnersTechTalk]

I'm sure the demand is high right now :) If you don't get a notification from them within another week, I'd e-mail them.

[@Gutemweq]

8:31 which one did you download?

[@Gutemweq]

*which 32bit did u download?

[@WagnersTechTalk]

32-Bit, not the Lite version. The Lite version is console-only (No UI). It was the 32-Bit with Recommended Software.

[@m.curie-denadojustinef.590]

It can be used in google meet?

[@WagnersTechTalk]

Not sure, I've not used google meet. It does include the Chromium browser, so likely a good chance it would work (not Chrome, but quite similar).

[@blitzsturm2769]

64GB of RAM should be an option since high amounts of RAM is needed in some applications...

[@WagnersTechTalk]

When a Pi5 is released (no idea when), it would be nice to have a 16GB option. Really depends on what you plan to use the Pi for. If it's a desktop replacement, (blender, video editing, etc.) then sure more RAM options are always great to have. If used for retro gaming, 2-4GB is plenty.

[@pick6string]

Dors this thing have Wi-Fi?

[@WagnersTechTalk]

Yes, it has built-in Bluetooth and WiFi. I also reviewed CanaKit's latest model here, if interested: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nJu4nHxofdxrmrs (this video was released Fri of last week)

[@infotruther]

Its not dors. But does.

[@PapaLeech89]

32bit OS with 8GB of ram. Does the OS detect all the ram?

[@WagnersTechTalk]

It does detect all the ram, however a single application can't consume more than 3GB of RAM. If I recall correctly. If you'll be using Blender or some other memory-intensive application, you may opt for the 64-bit version of PiOS. If you want to run both 32/64-bit versions, you can also use a tool such as PINN Lite: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z3TUpZRqnNRna7c . I hope that answered your question fully.

[@PapaLeech89]

I need to save to get one, but if/when I can afford one, I wanted to create a Dynamic DNS Linux box. I usually use Linux Mint 50 % of the time. But would try the Raspberry Pi OS for this machine

[@PapaLeech89]

Are the kits from Canakit the official Raspberry Pi boards? Or are they copies, but very good copies

[@WagnersTechTalk]

They are the official Pi's.

[@yurangtian]

It's just like a lot of tests made by other KZbinrs. CPU hits 100% while the memory is used less than half of 8G only. I was wondering what's the typical scenario in which 8G RAM is essential to a Raspberry Pi.

[@WagnersTechTalk]

Please see previous comments below, I've already discussed this.

[@yurangtian]

@@WagnersTechTalk I saw your comments. However, the examples you gave, like video editing, couldn't prove that 8G would really help. It's like you pair an i3-8100 with 64G RAM and claim that the extra RAM would improve the performance of the entry-level CPU. And I highly doubt that anyone would use a raspberry pi to do their daily video editing except for experimentation.

[@WagnersTechTalk]

With 64-bit support, a little overclocking CPU issues could be improved. My goal for this video was to show what is in this kit and how to setup the kit -which I think I did as well as demonstrate exceeding 4GB of RAM consumption. Each individual will have their own reasons for either wanting it or going with a lower-capacity (

[@yurangtian]

@@WagnersTechTalk Please don't take me wrong. I do appreciate your efforts in making this video. It's just the Raspberry Pi 4b itself that fails to prove, at this point, that it could fully utilize 8G RAM.

[@WagnersTechTalk]

I respect your question, as with any new technology, time will tell. I've yet to scratch the surface on the benefits using the 64-bit Pi OS. It would be great if there were more studies available on this topic. But, I'm not aware of any at this point.

[@giddeonlazarus2093]

Huh I got an extra small heatsink??

[@WagnersTechTalk]

I'm sure it happens from time to time 👍

[@genkiferal7178]

@@WagnersTechTalk that is for the Ethernet chip. Some companies sell 4 instead of 3.

[@martin6901]

Am I the only one who finds this pronunciation of "Wagner" very strange? I'm used to it being pronounced "vahg" (like fog) not "wag" (like nag).

[@WagnersTechTalk]

The German pronunciation is infact "Vaugner", so you're correct. But in the US, we pronounce it "Wag-ner". :)

[@choppergirl]

I watched this and I can't see it at all. I'd have to call them and they'd have to walk me through assembling it by feel. Might take a couple of hours.

[@WagnersTechTalk]

Which part is the most difficult for you to see, the OS installation or the assembly? Curious what I could have done during the video creation that could have made it visually easier on you? I definitely am interested in learning how to help the visually impaired and any input you provide will be considered for future productions. Thank you for your feedback.

[@IvanpilotNX1]

There is your face 8:09

[@WagnersTechTalk]

lol, you can also see me here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nZisppt_bd2CiKs . I don't hide from the camera, just don't show my face all the time :)

[@xane_brown]

who else is watching on an HP with 4gb of ram 😆

[@YTChaostheory]

i did this shit drujnk so u can all do it !!!!!!!!!!!! and i mean todat like rightn now 202`1

[@WagnersTechTalk]

LOL, I spit my drink out 👍😎

[@yaolet]

show me an usecase which requires more than 4G of RAM. don't sell ppl stuff they don't need plz.

[@WagnersTechTalk]

There are many use cases. In my case, I have a hobby where I create KZbin videos. If you want to effectively use a Pi for Video editing/rendering, having 8GB is way better than a Pi with

[@yaolet]

@@WagnersTechTalk Oh i thought your CPU will max out first and become bottleneck. do you have proof 8G will help? iPad Pro is a video editing monster, it only has 6G mem.

[@WagnersTechTalk]

Pi 4 8GB = $75 USD (board itself), iPad Pro $799-$999 USD (11/12 in.). Not exactly a fair comparison IMO. If you stress it like I did in this video, yes at some point CPU will be taxed. Some of that can be improved via overclocking to 2+Ghz. But, we're talking about a $75 SBC.

[@yaolet]

@@WagnersTechTalk It is exactly fair in terms of correct CPU-RAM configuration. Big memory must have a matching CPU. We are talking about a piece of SBC with poor computational power and limited (almost none) GPU support. I'd like to see a video showing how "different" a 8G model can make in any sane task that human beings perform in real life over a 4G one. In ARM processors even 2G is proven to be more than enough. and personally i don't believe some one would use PI4 for video editing as a daily driver. My PI turns overclocking 2G constantly and it struggles even decoding 1080p youtube video. using it for video encoding is not a practical choice only a do-able one.

[@Sasoon2006]

Yeah, who needs more than 640KB of RAM...

[@moazahmed5388]

STOP Torturing The PI !!

[@WagnersTechTalk]

lol, she handled it well 👍

[@moazahmed5388]

@@WagnersTechTalk yeah i see , great vid btw :D

[@WagnersTechTalk]

Thank you Sir!

[@choppergirl]

How is a 32bit OS going to make use of the full 8gb of RAM???? The setup screen is appallingly awful. Black text on a white background is unreadable by a blind person. Imagine taking a sharpie marker, and writing on a floresent tube bulb, turning on the bulb, and then trying to read the writing you just put on the tube. That's what it looks like to a blind person. It's like staring into the sun. The words disappear, and you feel like you are burning out your eyes... because you probably are 2 inchs to the screen / bulb. Dark theme! What is wrong with you programmers. Dark theme all the time, every time, always. I can see yet another problem already, I'm not going to be able to see the mouse pointer. On my Windows computer, I use CursorFX and can make my mouse pointer an inch tall and wide.

[@WagnersTechTalk]

No single process can address more than 3GB of RAM (on PiOS 32-Bit), however multiple processes (when instantiated) can consume the 8GB of RAM available on a Pi 4 with an 8GB Pi. You can read more about that here, if interested: www.raspberrypi.com/news/8gb-raspberry-pi-4-on-sale-now-at-75/ In terms of the color scheme chosen, you may find TwisterOS more to your liking : twisteros.com/download.html There are dark/light themes available which allow the Pi to look like Windows or Mac. Not sure about the mouse cursor, that may still be an issue but there may be some accessibility add-ons to make it easier (I've used some for touch screens on the Pi 4, but not mouse cursors-specifically). Hopefully some of this is helpful, thank you for watching! If I come across any Mouse Cursor extensions I'll reply back here. Just FYI- TwisterOS is essentially PiOS with an improved front-end and a number of pre-installed applications and games. I prefer it over the base PiOS install myself.

[@BudgetGamerz]

a 20 sec intro/logo? Lots of mobile data wasted...

[@WagnersTechTalk]

I appreciate you letting me know what you didn't like about the video, hopefully you found some useful information otherwise. It's interesting, I have more comments that folks love the intro., there is always the option to skip ahead.

[@illuminated2438]

Some people complain about everything, especially poor people

[@BudgetGamerz]

@@WagnersTechTalk Thanks for being open to Criticism. Yes the Info was useful.

[@grassCrow]

@@WagnersTechTalk Yes. The intro is well put together and is nice. But I too felt it was a little long. Not sure how far ahead to skip without first watching it. Maybe you can put that in the info. @00:58

[@WagnersTechTalk]

@@grassCrow All videos from this year have a new intro., trimmed it down quite a bit so it shouldn't be an issue going forward. I listened to the feedback and hope it's much better.