Cancelable K-POP Opinions Cuz KEP1ER isn't Disbanding.

[@loveleeme-n34]

Timestamps: 0:01 1. Kep1er is set to extend their contracts. 2:22 2. IVE'S "Accendio" is much stronger than "HEYA." 4:23 3. Can we stop criticizing idols for donating to charity. 5:23 4. Being a good dancer doesn't automatically make you a good performer.

[@Amandine___]

Accendio is the daughter of Love Dive and Holy Moly literally

[@froggie_8]

I agree accendio is really nice and the mv is really good and fun to watch. I liked the story too it wasnt complicated and quite fun

[@hc1883]

kep1er is basically a mid tier kpop girl group but with a strong, dedicated, & loyal following and fan base in japan where they are very successful and popular ... also japan unlike korea watched girls planet 999 and have supported kep1er from the debut in january 2022 120k units sold of their recent japanese album in it’s first week recently & they probably will have sold around a combined 350k-400k albums for their 4 japan releases when it's all said & done since debut ... and they had a 5 day concert tour last november which all the shows sold out with i think 43k in attendance as of now their last scheduled activities as a group will be a 3 day concert tour in japan in mid july which is supposed to be after their july 3rd disbandment date … all 3 dates will be held in a 20k venue too so that’s a combined 60k attendance that doesn't include all the merchandise they will have sold in their 19 live concerts or fan meets they have had in japan which were basically concerts in themselves ... in total over 200k attendees for their live concerts & fan meets in japan as we know the majority of kpop idols or groups make a lot or even the majority of their money from touring be it tickets sold for concerts and the merchandise bought by the fans at these kind of events kep1er in japan alone makes good money and 90% of kpop groups would kill for that kind of success anywhere let alone the 2nd biggest music market in the world japan for a lot of kpop groups in the past, currently, & will continue in the future are a life line to earn a solid living if they don't have strong domestic support in korea which is what kep1er has been doing especially being the first post produce scandal mnet survival show group specifically girl group & as a kpop girl group where you need domestic support to have any shot of being a top girl group in kpop ... otherwise you have to rely on your fans internationally & that's what japan has been for kep1er as a whole these almost last 2.5 years

[@LeonorIsabel]

Like Jennie just donated in the name of her fandom blink, she never even talked about it, we just now about it because the charity foundation was really grateful and thanked her publicly

[@gravy9gravy]

Happy for Kep1er. Surprised only two of them are leaving though. I'm all for more mature experienced idols.

[@belaytriks]

Actually I hope now they have more time they can get better promotions.

[@JO-qn8gy]

The best outcome is that Kep1er will become more successful because less members 7 and Limelight will also become more successful because of the hype and more members 5.

[@playamelodythateverybodyknows]

​@@JO-qn8gy i think they gonna rry different route testing if the public will like it...i hope

[@rahasiaapaaja4829]

@@JO-qn8gy Limelight will 7 for sure

[@Fearnot_44]

Yeah no look at the mv shooting stars when they say "see you agaim and again in anotuer galaxy" which meam at least one member is leaving.

[@theymakefunofmyname-qz4dq]

2. IVE "SWITCH" is their best one so far. Great to see IVE growing and building their unique identity. Finally some praise from you 😏

[@ggstan2439]

Starship failed WJSN tho. It was not (only) the company made Ive THAT popular. And with that I’m not talking about management, I’m talking about big company privilege. And this kind of privilege only relies on big 4. Starship made Ive sucessful because of their good management, just like any of these girls company could. It’s not like starship is a big deal.

[@vibes7255]

I don't think that was this person's point... Ive's members and discography are definitely huge factors but if they were in a company like S2 Entertainment (Kiss of Life's Label) they wouldn't be as big as they are now because they wouldn't have the money or the media exposure that Starship Entertainment is giving them. But Wony and Yujin are huge reasons to why IVE is so popular so maybe those two just being in group would've made them mainstream kpop we'll never know for sure though.

[@ggstan2439]

@@vibes7255 I edited my comment to make it clearer. Money is important but you can have that and still suck. You cannot have that and do well like Kiss of life, Fifty fifty, Mamamoo’s etc companies. Starship was rich and did WJSN dirty in the past. So it was not (mainly) the “starship brand” or the starship money that made Ive popular, it was the work of a good management team and the help of popular members. By the way OP said, it really seemed like Starship’s name gave Ive popularity when in fact it’s not like that. Lesserafim on the other hand…

[@vibes7255]

​@@ggstan2439 You can clearly see how much more time, effort, and money was put into creating IVE than there was into creating WJSN, also the timing of debut was VERY VERY unlucky for WJSN. WJSN had trash promotions unlike IVE who have decent promotions (they are overworked I believe though). WJSN debuted when the girl group market WAS extremely competitive (Twice, Mamamoo, Gfreind, BP, etc...) AND they had 13 members (big girl groups are harder to sell) while IVE was the beginning of the wave of 4th gen girl group dominance (ITZY and Izone were at the top alone for a while until Izone's disbandment, ITZY's identity crisis, and IVE's spectacular debut) and IVE only have 6 members and 2 of them were already well know and well respected. You also can't forget that when WJSN's concept was all over the place and with no proper promotions how were they supposed to be as successful as Sistar and Ive? There are 5 things that contribute to IVE's success: 1. Izone Clout 2. Great Music & Concept 3. The influence of Kakoa in Korea 4. Their Management 5. Their Hardwork & Talent

[@user-sn2ji3od4k]

⁠@@ggstan2439Let’s be for real… the only reason WJSN didn’t work out is because of TWICE and the poor promotion from Starship. IVE is basically the Twice of 4th gen and they are given decent promotions from starship. You can’t compare WJSN (a group who clearly wasn’t thought out or expected to surpass the likes of Twice) to IVE (a girl group that has most likely been carefully crafted since Wony and Yujin stepped onto stage Izone). You can see, feel, and hear the budget differences between the groups. And it’s not STARSHIPS NAME that gave them the popularity, it’s KAKOA (one of the most popular internet companies in SK). Yes Starship has less well known artists like WJSN and Cravity… but they also created THE SISTAR, Monsta X, and IVE (all of which are monsters).

[@user-sn2ji3od4k]

@@ggstan2439 Saying Kakoa isn’t a major factor in IVE’s success just because WJSN didn’t perform well… is like saying YG Ent isn’t a major factor in BP’s success because Treasure aren’t big in outiside of Korea and Japan. And let’s not act like WJSN were complete flops… they had number 1s and had a decent fan base in China up until their Chinese line dropped like flies.

[@kriiiofficial]

Ivespa fandom eating well this month🧎

[@Gojo-ki-poookie]

2- bsides/ 2nd tt's r almost always better so no surprise 3- EXACTLY- even if its just a Pr stunt, in the end it does the benefit to the deserving eitherway so why get so worked up about it? 4- expressions r the cherry on top🤌🏻 Robotic dances can be done by almost every other idol, but only a few of them get it

[@kpopimo]

Accendio is amazing but I feel like it had potential to be better I feel like the chorus is not very long so it hooks me on for just a few seconds instead of 12-17 secs or more chorus that keeps you hooked on for long

[@musicinterest-dib]

For the second I would add the hate some idols get for donating to a "wrong" charity. For example, Jennie recently donated to a Korean school or something like that that is related to Blinks and she got massive hate in the comments for not donating to Palestine (which was never confirmed) and not posting about Palestine. That obsession with Palestine is way too much even though the majority of fans don't know anything about the war.

[@repkarynst-mu2kk]

it's her PR stunt that's why people were mad. Plus not knowing about the war in Palestine, then throw your phone outside. You don't deserve to rant here about "obsession" with Palestine.

[@musicinterest-dib]

@@repkarynst-mu2kk it is an obsession with that war. Let’s pretend that thousands of people haven’t died in Ukraine in the last three years. People are uneducated especially Kpop fans who just like to hate except to look into the history of a conflict and support the countries.

[@Mitchelle-hb7wk]

What's your problem how did you know dat it was a pr stunt​@@repkarynst-mu2kk

[@reevy_]

obsession with Palestine wtf💀 jennie is rich and is literally in the biggest gg but doesn’t donate nor talk about Palestine wich is actually really embarrassing for her and whole bp

[@repkarynst-mu2kk]

@@reevy_ exactly! She's just doing it for publicity, to get on the goody two shoes among fans who worship her. What korean school that she's so suddenly fond of?

[@nishimlia]

agree with all !! whats your opinion on the new enhypen album? 🤗

[@Dxodxo738]

All they need is change in their concept and do some mature concept the members can pull of any concept they should so concepts like clc and kara and aoa they suit these concepts too and like le sserafim

[@meagain7669]

The new generations of robotic performers are killing kpop

[@salfred8252]

I feel like at this point Kpop agencies are throwing whatever they can at the wall and seeing whatever sticks.

[@ArtwithPRAGYA]

got them all going, sheesh

[@salfred8252]

@@ArtwithPRAGYA BabyMon and Nmixx are exceptions for me

[@my_aengel]

My ult is the K-pop Spy

[@ilyeseo]

thank uuu!! not bashing kep1er 😭😭i love u

[@sicatsz]

so true for the robotic idols. sure, you can dance, can you PERFORM??

[@hshlovre]

honestly imo if they’re extending kep1er’s contracts they should for zb1 especially with how well all of their releases have done

[@Sandrinarhonda]

ZB1 will probably extend without the Yuehua members because Ricky complains so damn much

[@hshlovre]

@@Sandrinarhonda if they do that, they’ll disband atp because yuehua has like 4 of the most popular members.

[@Sandrinarhonda]

@@hshlovre okay ? Matthew is just as popular and so is Hanbin they will do just fine in ZB1 as a 6 member group . If the Yuehua members are so popular they can go back to Yuehua and figure out where to go from there and ZB1 can continue as is.

[@hshlovre]

@@Sandrinarhonda the group will definitely not be fine without the 4 thats just honesty😭

[@Sandrinarhonda]

@@hshlovre the lies you tell . ZB1 will do great as a 6 member group . Better formations especially & the Yuehua members can debut in Evnne or whatever.

[@dondizm2678]

Finally someone said Starship was a powerhouse alongside the Big 4! ❤ Dive into IVE! 🌟

[@FollowTheWhiteRabbit_5789]

this is not related to the video but- fighting scenes in kpawp is goofy af but aespa managed to make it more believable and real. they are the only group suitable for something like that. likeee that's one of their brand identity. warriors.

[@FollowTheWhiteRabbit_5789]

winter is especially so good at it. we need that action movie neowww.

[@belaytriks]

At this point they are being trained for make them actreesses.

[@kpoplistener1111]

I have to disagree with the kep1er one. I feel like they'd end up like the izone wirh some members having super successful careers and some others not so much. Kep1er has being going downhill with everything since up and it's honestly not looking like it's going to stop unless they get lucky. The girls should disband now when they still have some clout left.

[@Rina_verse]

After that video of giselle going viral she its was a rehearsal i would be hella scared too

[@theymakefunofmyname-qz4dq]

Let's admit it IVE, AESPA, GIDLE are leaders of 4th gen.

[@gaellelm6678]

They come for saving kpop

[@belaytriks]

I think Itzy did right till a few years ago, and NMIXX is almot there, still, if we go by girl groups I agree with you.😊

[@Ocean-zh4ur]

Agreed

[@musicinterest-dib]

Unfortunately it is New Jeans and Le sserafim that are more popular and for that reason they can be said as the leaders of ggs in 4th gen. My fave groups from 4th gen are definitely IVE and AESPA because I like their music a lot, but Hybe's sh*tty marketing strategy work better and more people know those groups. I hope that things will change, but for this to happen, Hybe needs to STOP CREATE ITS OWN SCANDALS AND HAVE ITS STAFF CRY ON CAMERA AND SEARCH FOR SYMPHATY.

[@JO-qn8gy]

I thought that NewJeans would be one of the 4th generation leaders until MHJ started to bully ILLIT their younger sister group from the 5th generation. Not a good look and leaves a sour taste in the mouth.

[@user23q0]

Literally the reason you're giving should make kep1er disband Like the group zerobaseome from the same ent and kep1er is doing so much better than them It took kep1er 2 yrs since their debut to get 4m insta followers While for zerobaseone took less than an Yr to get to 3m

[@annamann8659]

I think this creator is trying to look on the brighter side for the girls that are staying in that company. Yes it probably would be better if the girls of Kepler did leave but, with the current state of the K-pop industry I completely understand why some of the members especially the older ones wouldn’t want to leave. They all might not have the same opportunities so why not stick with a gig that make sure you’re still in the industry that you wanna be in?

[@user23q0]

@@annamann8659 thts the only problem

[@hc1883]

@@annamann8659 yeah kep1er is basically a mid tier kpop girl group with a strong, dedicated, & loyal following and fan base in japan where they are very successful and popular 120k albums sold of their recent japanese album in it’s first week recently ... they probably will have sold around a combined 350k-400k albums in their four japan releases since debut and they had a 5 concert tour last november which sold out all 5 venues with 43k in attendance and as of now their last scheduled activities as a group will be 3 concert tour in japan in mid july which is supposed to be after their july 3rd disbandment date … all 3 shows will be held in a 20k arena too so that’s a combined 60k attendance ... that doesn't include all the merchandise they will have sold in their 19 live concerts or fan meets which were basically concerts in themselves & as we know the majority of kpop idols make most of their money from touring be it tickets sold for concerts and the merchandise bought by the fans at these kind of events kep1er in japan alone makes good money and 90% of kpop groups would kill for that kind of success anywhere let alone the 2nd biggest market also japan unlike korea watched girls planet 999 and have supported kep1er from the debut in january 2022 japan for a lot of kpop groups in the past, currently, & will continue in the future are a life line to earn a solid living if they don't have strong domestic support in korea which is what kep1er is especially being the first mnet survival show group specifically girl group where you need domestic support to have any shot of being a top girl group in kpop

[@crstph]

boygroups and girlgroups are different in the ways fans interact with them though, they always have been.

[@Sandrinarhonda]

@@crstphexactly

[@sur_un_nuage]

i read that kep1er is disbanding in contrast to previous reports. the kep1er situation is sad because the ot9 fandom wants them to disband because they hate wakeone for good reason, the solo stans also want them to disband because they only care about their bias, but then again how well will they do after kep1er? it’s not because i underestimate them on the contrary i am rooting for them and will continue to support them but the way people had been doomposting about them ever since their debut is just concerning.

[@Sandrinarhonda]

Exactly a lot of the Kepler Stan’s don’t even like the group LMAOOOO they’re delulu solo stand who think their bias is gonna debut in some new group at a different company or be an actress .

[@Abcdefg_2025]

All the examples you gave as best performers literally lip-syncs into a backtrack!! How about that?😭

[@Gojo-ki-poookie]

What does that have to do with them being good performers🤡??

[@kpop-spy]

Stage Presence has nothing to do with vocals or dancing!!!

[@Abcdefg_2025]

@@kpop-spy stage presence is not something that shows your body more into the camera! It's not a seduction! Kpop stans defines stage presence is totally wrong! If you've been into a Taylor swift concert her songs literally has no choreos but when she stands in the spotlight that's it! All eyes on her! Another example is Suga of BTS I've been to his concert his songs got no choreos but the presence he has on stage is tremendous!! He literally controls the audience with his raps! Both these artists I've mentioned have something to show to the audience they do not throw hands here and there,holding mics just for show, lipcyncing into backtracks!! That's not real stage presence! But maybe for kpop that'd be ig! 😗

[@theymakefunofmyname-qz4dq]

@@Abcdefg_2025 Stage presence is a type of seduction tho. Taylor Swift just making eye contact, her gestures and expressions -- all that counts. She is showing more - to camera and audience. That's what's discussed in the video. What you say about lipsyncing and backtracks are only for a few shows maybe, not the entire time. Yet that comes later. If you can command the stage with just your presence, then tada ✨STAGE PRESENCE✨

[@BELIEVER78989]

​@@kpop-spyso if I just stand around on stage that would be stage presence💀

[@shwr4mii]

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[@BabyDanny_]

Kep1er needs to disband so they can do better things😭 wakeone don’t care about them