Cannondale SystemSix: First ride and review

The SystemSix name is an apt one this time around. It's Cannondale's first road foray into a complete integrated package. We've seen SI splashed on Cannondale products for many years, but this is truly their first top to tail bike where everything has been incorporated in the design and development phase. From the wheels up. We took a look at the new bike at the recent launch held in Girona, pro territory.
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[@mikecool1029]

LOL @ the look Dave gave when the engineer stated it was not an aero bike

[@michelegraham9044]

I don’t give a shit about bikes. I’m bedridden. I only watch because of you Dave. You’re a gem.

[@zack_120]

It is nice to have an engineer to talk about the bike !

[@rinonhoxha4059]

This guy should present every possible bike :)

[@acruzp]

You guys did a great job with this video.

[@SuperPussyFinger]

Cannondale just dropped one beast of a bike.

[@billschuler8157]

I have a 2007 System Six! It's my first bike so I have nothing to compare it to, but I have a feeling it's an awesome bike. I love it. Getting ready to upgrade it with Ultegra DI2!

[@robbchastain3036]

Thanks for this presentation, Cannondale always deserves props for creativity, innovation, and wild pipes. But if this bike is not an aero bike, Cannondale should call it the Aeronaut.

[@georgehugh3455]

Outstanding "First Impressions" review, crazy-accented dude!

[@DavidEverettshoddycycling]

Thanks. And it's a bit of a mixed up Cumbrian accent.

[@aneczka2114]

Great interview!

[@anibaljesusdelgadillo2091]

That bike is incredible.👍✊

[@Phaidrus]

Very informative video, thanks!

[@yusrinhelmi1256]

Dream bike, love cannondale

[@geekotron]

Does it feels fast because its stiff as hell? Just like when I used to pump my tires to 110 psi. It was just a false feeling of speed since I was feeling every bump in the road.

[@chrischupp9760]

Good looking bike. I’m getting one of those aero bikes eventually.

[@pabloechevarria7008]

Does anyone know the total weight of the 2019 di2 model? Cant seem to find the info anywhwere.

[@samuelkmaina]

Any chance of doing a review of how this bike has performed since launch?

[@TriRussell1]

It seems appropriate to have Mitch Docker at the lunch with the most aerodynamic hair cut. Business at the front, party at the back!

[@wadelewington9999]

lol I think it looks sic! and I really enjoyed this review! Nice one!

[@VeloVeloVeloTV]

Thanks, we will have Dave dashing off to another product launch real soon. So stay tuned.

[@xylou83400]

Can we plug some aerobar on the KNOT handelbar ?

[@Flynnfloozle]

Mitch Docker: Style Icon

[@mikedipasquale1]

Looks like the giant propel disk!

[@vgabrie]

Among all the new aerobikes, I'm impressed most of the Cannondale SystemSix!

[@Archi2g]

gr8 vid, with aero advancements everything is starting to look the same (bmc, propel, this, etc).

[@mellis4726]

Archi That's convergent evolution and to be expected.

[@Archi2g]

yeah but it's boring, i want some zazz and pop

[@megapwn333]

What about rain getting in through the huge gap in the steerer

[@batbawls]

I like the bike. The FSA chainrings look dated though.

[@RyonBeachner]

A. Random Yeah, same chainset as a bike that’s a third the cost kinda looks... cheap.

[@mikicastan]

Ryon Beachner Agree...they are shit

[@sireevessireeves5072]

I'm fairly sure it's the FSA Powerbox powermeter chainring. shop.fullspeedahead.com/en/fsa-powerbox-carbon-5163

[@El_JayBubby]

Agreed. Came here to say this. I am a Cannonadale "Fanboy" I have a Caad10 Ultegra from 2015 that had this chainring and it's the only thing I've upgraded. Not only does it look hideous, it's cheap and without it the whole bike feels better. Shifts better, feels lighter, less sluggish. (Replaced it with a Spiderring)

[@Skywalkaaa]

Throw some Ovals on it

[@rosscads]

Ah, I love La Fabrica! ☕️ Take me back there. 🍰 On yeah, nice bike too. 👍🏻

[@kennethwise7108]

BEAUTIFUL CHINESE BIKE!

[@richardggeorge]

No worries😙

[@markevasion5769]

love the look at 9:14 'this aero bike is not an aero bike'.. idiots.. what about people who want an aero bike? :-D and what cycling jersey are you wearing? looks awesome

[@RixterNow]

Looks okay, except for that stupid looking GPS mount. What's the point of it sticking up in the air like a sail

[@cockneyherbert5123]

Rixter glare mate

[@RixterNow]

Cockney Herbert look at the 1:15 mark, the GPS mount is ontop of the "aero" bars. Once the head unit goes ontop, you've lost all aero benefits. It looks like such an afterthought

[@ariffau]

Still better looking than Praxis Work ones 😂

[@isaiahyoungbrown]

whats that song at 2:00

[@bloodsord9]

This bike looks so sexy that if I had the money I would buy it right now.

[@JonLeonardF10]

Nathan Barry said just wanted to make it a fast bike!

[@suasaju2017]

How much is it?

[@ronaldomartinsdossantos8282]

Show!

[@zoso73]

CAAD12, please.

[@zxtenn]

I had a 2007 System six then upgraded to 11 speed Dura Ace, newest crank, Rolf TDF 4SL tubulars, etc. then someone stole it, yes stiff as hell

[@Ghostflasher]

When I hear that guy talk, I am always reminded of a drunk guy in a pub.

[@-_-Jacob-_-]

"Accent? Wat accent? Oi don't ave no bloody accent."

[@lawrenceng7626]

Great looking and performing bike. How much will it cost?

[@DavidEverettshoddycycling]

If you jump over to the article on Cyclingtips.com it has all the info in there. It's not cheap. The frame alone is about $4000

Expensive as F***, 10 000 $ CAD for Ultegra DI2 version....and wait until you see the price for the Dura-Ace one.

[@TboneTenEighties]

Top model 11K$ Low model 4K$

[@DarrenJohnson1973]

should of asked why Education First are always lasl in the peloton

[@MrFornicater]

"It's not an aero bike"...if it quacks like a duck...

[@cliffcox7643]

So, it IS an Aero bike, they just don't want to label it that for marketing purposes.

[@JonLeonardF10]

The lead aerodynamics guy Nathan said it’s not an aero bike , just a road bike . Which focus heavily on aerodynamics, so it’s an aero bike ? Who’s confused here?

[@ericnordmeyer6037]

Would be watching CyclingTips for that accent alone. But great content anyways...

[@malalark]

You should also listen to their podcasts where he also chimes in for commentary from time to time. He (and the whole CT crew) is quite fun to listen to.

[@JanKowalski-pe9lo]

0:14 yeah reason is to make good ad about bike. Is that ad will be objective... doubt so due to money involved obviously. Thats why after first 20sec wont look further as i sadly know what is all about already

[@salomonjara5361]

Hasta ahora nunca me habian gustado los cuadros Cannondale ,pero este cuadro es precioso ,sin embargo jamas nunca usare ruedas ,con frenos de disco ,y tal parece que este cuadro esta hecho solo para usar ,ese tipo de frenos

[@jimmyfmj1]

Looks like they rushed it out looking at the new venge, why would you buy this and have a kilo penalty when you could have a faster, lighter bike in the new venge?!

[@mitchellsteindler]

jimmy Smith theres nothing to say one is faster than the other. Only testing will tell.

[@jimmyfmj1]

Mitchell Steindler specialized have their own wind tunnel, and years of aero experience. Canndondale had to rent one, and they ‘rented’ aerodynamicists, i know who i would go with! Plus, who wants a 8kg bike when the new venge is much, much lighter?!

[@stepforward9498]

High front end looks weird, strange spacers too. Not the most awful looking bike bit not my cup of tea

[@Dexxyh]

The front end is very tall indeed.. I do wonder what it looks like in a smaller Framesize though. I'd guess a lot better

[@Dexxyh]

Inb4 you try a trackstand and fall because of that silly stopper

[@rotrmotr]

Step Forward got to see his thing in person. The all yellow one. Nice👍

[@Criscross292]

Don’t call it Aero Bike, although it’s a bike that was built to be aero. Check

[@cyclejockey4397]

Where's the rim brake version ?

[@carldyson5092]

Cycle Jockey apparently not

[@DavidEverettshoddycycling]

No such thing, it's disc or nothing.

[@marcuswong1797]

New BMC Timemachine, Specialized Venge, Cannondale Systemsix... and spy shots of the new Madone. All only offer disc brakes. I guess that the future!

[@Numeriwar]

Who the f still want to brake on the rim? Wheels are expensive.

[@Ih8GoogleandApple]

Sorry but specialized new Venge did a better job with the styling cable routing and stem. I wanted to like this bike from the early rendering but the final product looks like a cheap blocky mess. The stem spacers and cable routing looks cheap. The graphics package on the frame and wheels look like a Chinese copy of madfiber wheel graphics. The addition of a power meter with 10 year old chainrings is downright confusing. The only thing I like about the bike is the internal width of the rims which make 23 tires have the contact patch of 26. I’m sorry the new Venge with a Dura Ace crank and SRM exact power pedals would be my choice for a lust worthy bike. If your going to spec an OEM bike don’t jack up the price and install a power meter that you want to swap out as soon as you get the bike.

[@philallan6685]

Will be frustrating if they don't make a frameset/fuselage available. I don't like being forced to use Shimano or having to accept the wheels, or that chainset. Having to stick with OEM (albeit good kit) is a growing trend in modern bikes - Giant Propel similarly restricted to Shimano.

[@ariffau]

They refused to call the Synapse an Endurance (comfort) bike, now they refuse to call the System Six an aero bike. Marketing. simply marketing.

[@aidanmouellic5919]

Cannonade are smart and are looking ahead. His response of ' it's a fast road bike' is a spot on. Look at cars, we don't have an aero Honda Civic and a non aero car - we have cars - fast ones and slow ones. All cars optimize their aerodynamics, some more than others but it's always a consideration for fuel economy. This is the future of road bikes, it's about saving energy and going faster, what a road bike should do, why call it an aero bike over a road bike?

[@ariffau]

Aidan Mouellic irrelevant, your point is. I am so sorry. Cars are segmented. Hatchbacks, Sedan, SUVs, MPV, Crossover. Sorry to break it to you but I am a market researcher, I know my (marketing) stuff. What Cannondale is doing is not smart, I think. Rather confusing. So they have fast bikes and other bikes that aren't as fast. What if consumers want a fast bike and found that they are not comfortable? Stick with what the market has. Aero fast and aggressive stance. GC all rounder Endurance for more relaxed stance at slower speed. Less confusion to the market, easier sales for them (perhaps)

[@aidanmouellic5919]

Arif Fauzan All cars travel at speeds in which aerodynamics matter, even SUVs are aero optimized. Fact is, this is a road bike - why have aero road bikes and non aero road bikes? You have mountain bikes, gravel bikes, TT bikes and road bikes. Heck, even climbing bikes, but before the climb you gotta get there. All road bikes are also 'endurance bikes'.

[@simonrano8072]

A market researcher, that is cute, don't wait too long the Nobel Price

[@ariffau]

Simon Rano come back with a more constructive comment before I correct you on your spelling 😏

[@CycoWarriorx]

I’m not a Cannondale fan, but they should weave “… it’s not an aero bike” in their advertising campaign. Liking the looks of this bike, with its design tweaks, is a personal choice, but I give Cannondale credit for going all in on the design.

[@user-cx2bk6pm2f]

"First of all it's not an aero bike, it's a road bike" What a snide, pedantic opening statement from the Cannondale rep. I love how you continue to call it an aero bike though!

[@janullrich7341]

hope it comes with 53/39

[@zoso73]

On their US website, all 5 SystemSix set-up options are fitted with a 52/36 mid-compact. No 53/39 option. Makes no sense on an aero bike, but what do I know?

[@shields777728]

wight, enitial impwession on this awo bike is a compweete etc, etc, he also likes the dwops & fwont weeuls, sing that song pal that gween gween gwass of home.

[@shields777728]

he,s totally pissed off talking for 9 minutes on the new aero connondale bike only to be told it,s not an aero bike ,classic

[@adam__smith]

You said "feels faster" three times in less than 30 seconds. Yeah, we know; every new bike feels faster.

[@kennethwise7108]

I'm sure that since Cannondale shifted operations from the USA (Bedford Pa) to China they are able to manufacture these's bikes at a fraction of the cost over there. Personally i'm glad to see that they're $11,000 for the top of the line bike Dura Ace equipped model, maybe NOW they'll consider moving back to the USA and bring back the jobs that were lost! MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!

[@onilovni1234]

6:53, the look of the junction between the front tube and the fork is weird. It makes me go away from this bike

[@jaredm.]

“It’s not an aero bike” hahahaha ok then

[@AftershockPS3]

who's care the look ? if it fast

[@monitor-2809]

what kind of accent is that?

[@KetzalSterling]

Vlog tip. Look into the lens, not the screen of yourself...

[@acruzp]

The aussie guy is developing a strong american accent.

[@hugoyoung4890]

That's definitely not an aus5soe accent. Source: am Australian

[@elephantcup]

The problem with aero bikes and deep wheels (whether or not this guy and his marketing department want to call it an aero bike) is mentioned during the review. It's cross winds. On a calm day or riding straight into a head wind, you're golden, but any cross winds will blow you across the road (into the path of a car or another rider etc) and that just sucks. It gets tiring fast constantly having to fight to keep the bike going straight down the road. No thank you. This is a niche product, I forecast weak sales.

[@kennethwise7108]

Although I haven't personally experienced the "crosswind issue" that you eluded to I did see that the Zoom 454 wheelset has reduced or eliminated that problem. They're ONLY $4,000 USD (gulp).

[@kennethwise7108]

I put 85 miles on mine today and all I can say is WOW!

[@sandgroper1970]

It's not only deep section wheels, I have been caught out in crosswinds with shallow alloy wheels. But actually some of the newer deep dish aero wheels actually behave reasonably well in crosswinds.

[@flytech78]

I really wanted to get through this video but that guys voice, is he trying to sound like that, is that forced.. I’ll just wait tell it comes to my bike shop.

[@BernieMc7]

Love to watch the video but the accent is horrific, just can’t listen

[@waldenryd72]

The garmin holder. Looks like shit, make it aero

[@TheBassallyear100]

it's not an aero bike... it's not a good looking bike either.

[@Einhander49]

Lol, I love this guy's accent. And why doesn't cannondale release their shit first here in the US. Arent they an American company? Where's the pride, homey? Also, BB30? Passsssssssss.

[@paulturner7137]

Propel knock off

[@kennethwise7108]

Damn shame that this company used to take pride in the fact that these bikes were "Hand made in the USA". I wouldn't want one even if it was half their asking price. They screwed all the families in my area when they went to China. I hope the new Tariffs hurt them!

[@kennethwise7108]

BUY AMERICAN!!!

[@mmeysarosh]

While Cannondale the company is still based out of CT, its parent company Dorel is Canadian. Or Quebec according to certain Canadians. It also owns GT, Schwinn, Mongoose, and IronHorse. I believe many people associate these brands with US owned firm, but it simple the operations side of things. All of them manufacture outside the US. Trek is one of the few major brands that has very limited runs of US built bikes. Those are the range topping bikes only. There are a few small firms that still make their bikes in the US, but these are often bespoke operations. Specialized is nearly half owned by Merida, who builds all the bikes in their Taiwan factory. Merida bikes made under their name are designed in Germany. In truth, most bikes from most bigger brands are an international affair.

[@kennethwise7108]

Michael Meysarosh, honestly not many people even care where it's made and thank you for replying and informing us about the Cannondale company. Personally speaking I'm all about items being 100% American made. I say a 25% tariff isn't enough, President Trump should have made it 50% tariffs. These bikes used to be manufactured right in my own backyard in Pa and now they're being manufactured in China. I'm not a buyer or fan, even if it was 1/16 of their asking price. This company used to take pride in the fact that these bikes were manufactured in the USA. Greed got the best of them and I hope they don't sell ONE of them. "MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN"

[@mmeysarosh]

Cannondale would have gone into the history books if not exporting its frame manufacturing. It was in bankruptcy in 2003 and was sold to an investment group that turned the brand around to sell it to Dorel for nearly four times their purchase price. In the least the engineering remained mostly in the US, but I can simply state that no company could every produce a entry to mid level carbon road bike in the US at competitive price. Getting the layup schedule into the mold is labor intensive and only on high end models are the margins strong enough to make a profit. If you apply tariff or local manufacturing, the price of the lower tier carbon machines would simply be out of reach of more consumers. That could only be mitigated if further advancement in robotics would reduce the labor force required for a given number of bikes. In truth, there really wasn't any greed in this particular scenario. You can really see the limitations of the engineering department for having such a late entry into the aero segment. Using something like ProE to complete the structural frame design is one cost factor that is the similar to any bike. Adding the CFD time and really expensive tools like Fluent wasn't something they had the resources for. This bike is hardly sold in any significant volume and development costs are higher than standard road bike. One example of US production is Allied. Arkansas if I recall correctly and some pretty bespoke paint work. Trek does so only on their OLCV700 bikes. Parlee is another well know bespoke maker. Look at the pricing of any of these and you can see the requirements to make a US production facility profitable. I'm not a big fan of Chinese manufacturing for a number of reasons as I don't consider them ethical in human treatment, financial regulations, environmental factors, intellectual property theft, and others. Just don't believe that manufacturing is returning in mass to the US any time soon unless much of factories become highly automated.

[@carldyson5092]

Gotta say, it might be fast, might be aero, costs silly money but most of all, it's just ugly.

[@simonassouline45]

Ugly Aero Cannondale road bike, too Boxy on the Tubes! No aesthetics!

[@brody5211]

In reality your caad10 will ride as fast as this with your current fitness . Aero makes no bloody difference to amateur cyclists

[@vuelvoel2011]

another top bike with shimano, repose in pieces SRAM