Canon 22mm f2 VS Viltrox 23mm f1.4

[@TheCrowleyCrew]

I talked to Viltrox and they are updating the lens. hopefully the AF will get better.

[@PUNISHERRR]

Now its better? 🤔

[@noblegendforever2052]

how is it af? looking to buy this instead pancake len.. any update? tks

[@PressPlayProductions1]

Do I need an Adapter for the 22mm for my M50?

[@geru2000]

@@PressPlayProductions1 No

[@baldyoung8066]

Did they fix it??????

[@HooksHollands]

Thanks for this comparison! I own the 22mm and absolutely LOVE how compact it is, so with its performance being so comparable to the 23mm, I think I'll keep the 22 and await a lens that would bring significant improvement to my setup. Thanks again! :)

[@guardianobserver6593]

Still wait for a lens?

[@MrPWalden]

I already have the 22mm and I don’t think it’s worth buying the 23mm for the minor differences! If I was looking to buy one or the other for the first time it would be a tough choice.

[@TheWinkingPigBarBQ]

I agree, I also have the 22mm and I think my money would be better spent on something like the EF-M 32mm which I don't have yet but is the next lens on my "to buy" list.

[@PUNISHERRR]

@@TheWinkingPigBarBQ take better sigma 30mm 1.4 😉

[@alanm.4298]

Thank you for the comparison video! I've been impatiently awaiting the EF-M mount Viltrox 23mm lens for six months and was very happy to hear it was finally being released (about a year after the e-mount and X-mount versions). Background: I picked up an M5 half a year ago and have been using it only with a small kit of manual focus primes, including the Rokinon 21mm f/1.4. That's been a good lens, but I was missing some shots due to the lack of AF, especially with this moderate wide focal length and my short portrait 50(ish)mm. So I started looking for lenses with AF around these focal lengths and was pleased to discover the Viltrox 23mm and 56mm were in the works. Then the lenses came out... Well, I just bought the Canon 22mm and will be buying the Sigma 56mm soon. Why? Because for some reason Viltrox decided to paint their EF-M lenses SILVER. That was a deal killer for me. Explanation: I'm not a vlogger. I bought the M5 for street photography. I bought it as a small, unassuming camera that wouldn't intimidate or attract attention. I bought it as an alternative to several big DSLRs wirh battery grips and hefty, fast pro lenses that scream "I'm taking your picture." I use those cameras and lenses to shoot events, sports and wildlife. I bought the M5 to look more "touristy", so that subjects on the street will be more inclined to ignore me. Unless I need the DSLRs for a specific purpose, I'll likely also use the M5 and lenses for travel, when we can do that again. While I'd prefer a stop larger aperture and better build quality the Viltrox offers, the last thing I want is a lens that stands out on the black camera body. So I got the black Canon lens instead. And I'll be getting the black Sigma 56mm eventually, too... That is, unless Viltrox starts to offer the 23mm and 56mm in black, too (or perhaps if I get an M6 II body in silver). Viltrox say they plan to offer in black, but I'm not waiting again. It took an extra year for them to release the lenses in EF-M mount. Will it take another year until they offer black versions of them? Will they ever get around to doing so, if the M-series is phased out by Canon? Who knows, I might be shooting with an R-series in a year or two. My objection to the color of the lens may seem silly to some people and I'm sure isn't a concern for many. Overall, between the Viltrox lenses for EF-M and the Sigma DN trinity, I'm just glad to see someone giving the M-series the attention Canon hasn't for eight plus years! More of the same would be great, but I'm not holding my breath. Thanks for the video and your efforts to compare these two lenses. Very helpful. Cheers!

[@muhammad_muslih]

I like your explanation

[@aaronschmidt1755]

Thanks for all your videos. I recently purchased the m50 mkii for my vacation to NY and your reviews helped me figure out what lenses I wanted for each situation I encountered. I have the 15-45 kit and the canon 22mm however, I lOVE my Viltrox 56mm and cant wait to get the 33mm to round out my kit. Your reviews have truly helped keep up the great work!

[@Drostvideo]

Great review...I'll stick with the 22mm since I use it almost exclusively for making videos in my office studio. If you wanted to get an even sharper video quality what lens would you recommend I upgrade to?

[@koalamusik]

5:12 always love your locations and transitions. Props for even climbing up

[@W4WEnglish]

Greetings from Greece! Thank you for all the videos! You really helped me to make the right choise on camera and lenses. I got the m50, the sigma 16mm f1.4 and yesterday i received the sigma 30mm f1.4. I love both of them! I used to have the canon 50mm f1.8 with a viltrox adapter ( again based on your review), also a great lense, but the focal length was not for me. Keep up the great work, i wish the best for you and your family!

[@Chasing-Wisdom]

I have the same gear exactly as you :) I think from Job reply, you have great lenses already. 50mm is versatile, but on a crop sensor you might need bigger space for you shots

[@W4WEnglish]

@@Chasing-Wisdom The 30mm ( 48mm on a crop sensor) is more versatile for indoor shots, where the 50mm ( 80mm equivalent) was hard to work with. Maybe in a future far far away, i will complete the sigma trinity though.

[@Chasing-Wisdom]

@@W4WEnglish totally agreed

[@snowwalker9999]

For photography the 22mm is the clear winner and I use it a lot for landscape. I haven’t tried the Viltrox but I’d welcome any gain in light for both video and photography in low light. I just can’t justify getting that because of its focal length which isn’t a priority for what I want to do.

[@TheCrowleyCrew]

I totally agree. If you already have a 22mm there are more focal lengths that will help you expand as a photographer/videographer more than getting a very similar lens.

[@ElusiveFrame]

I'm still not sure whether I want to keep investing in the M mount. Hard decisions! If only Canon cared about the M line... :(

[@TheCrowleyCrew]

Yeeeesssss!!😩 Please canon the M line could be so good!

[@guardianobserver6593]

At least give the codes to third companies for not having future incompatibilities. Sony did that and one is sure that even years after their Chinese lenses will be compatible with their latest Sony cameras.

[@ChopKnives]

You have helped me understand my M50 - your videos have huge value, so thank you. I appreciate your crazy transitions too :-)

[@abdicodes]

Don't stop making these!! I love your videos!!

[@TheCrowleyCrew]

Thank you!

[@MrSTravelQuest]

Great review looking at both lens. I hope more companies decided to jump on the M series. Love the transition between some of the shots.

[@TheCrowleyCrew]

Thank you. I hope we can get some competition.

[@andreaottolina]

Ok man, you defenitely convinced me to buy Viltrox. Thank you for this detailed and complete review as always!

[@coolteacherproject]

Question: how do you change frames and have a continuous text (story)? Do you work of a script? Do you repeat your text 5-6 times in different location and put it all together after?

[@johnb7762]

I normally look at the last clip within my saved media or the take I liked thats on my camera and it makes it easier to pick up where. you left off if you don't have a script!

[@johnherzel718]

I love my Canon 22 f2, but I wish for the 1.4 aperture. Maybe Viltrox will make a 16/18/20 mm @ f1.4, which I would buy. The Sigma 16 f1.4 is tempting. I’ve been adapting my 10-18 but it starts at f4.5, which is too dark and only gets worse at 18mm /f5.6.

[@heygem]

I saw an online road map that says viltrox will come out with an APS-C 13mm f/1.4 in 2021.

[@DavidClason]

@@heygem looks like it's for fuji and sony camera only. Sadly. Not that you would have known that a year ago haha

[@chrisb7013]

I love the 23mm Viltrox for photography. But the auto focus in videos is too buggy. So I still keep the 22mm for times when I’m doing dance videos or whatever else that requires rapid movements.

[@TheCrowleyCrew]

Yeah, I am really hoping Viltrox fixes the video AF issue. It is so weird cause I almost never have a problem but this video it happened a bunch.

[@johnsmalldridge6356]

I have a few thoughts on some lens reviews. First off I think knowing the minimum focus distance for a lens and how the lens autofocus works close in or further away is useful. Also moving closer and further away wide open makes shots look out of focus because the focus system is constantly trying to lock on. This would be amplified if you are closer to the lens. I think that is where the newer Canon cameras updated focus systems have made improvements. A couple of things that may have affected the results of this comparison were as you stated the 22 was dropped and may not be a good representation of this lens and did the lenses and camera have the latest firmware updates?

[@johnb7762]

Can't wait to get my hands on this Viltrox! Thanks man!

[@TheCrowleyCrew]

It is a fun lens. It has a look to it that is really like.

[@TheCrowleyCrew]

It is a fun lens. It has a look to it that is really like.

[@HerEcolife]

Great video! I just got the 22mm. When I saw your last video I almost regrette having spent on the 22 first. Should have maybe went with the viltrox. I am needing a zoom lense now. Any suggestion for a great zoom lense for the m50 for wildlife?

[@ricetheories]

I'm considering the M50 and the size of the 22mm is one thing that makes it hard for me to choose... Might still end up going for the 1.4 though. For an affordable telephoto zoom I'd recommend the EF-S 55-250mm f4.5-5.6 STM if you have the adapter - it's a very sharp lens for its price and has 50mm extra reach than the EF-M 55-200mm f4.5-6.3 and also brighter aperture of f5.6 at 250mm. Good prices used too.

[@DaDarthShow]

nice video, the focus speed is the deal breaker ill keep my 22mm. Also about the gitter effect when panning/orbiting its to heavy when mounter in gimbal so always disable digital IS so they dont fight each other to stabalize. thanks !

[@TheCrowleyCrew]

Yeah, the digital IS is terrible with a gimbal. I shoot mainly handheld though.

[@DaDarthShow]

@@TheCrowleyCrew yeah like your videos doing handheld video, unfortunately i dont have the stable hands, by the way is your Digital and Lens IS enabled then you are doing montages?

[@rafael_daguerre]

Seeing several reviews and many different opinions, I still have doubts (in 2022 !!!) which one to buy for my Canon M6 MKII. Who knows, have both. My bias is towards the Viltrox 23mm which seems to be better for video; and the Canon 22mm better for photography. It's just a feeling from the reviews.

[@NeilSmallerFilms]

As THE M50 man on the Internet, how on earth do you get your video so sharp? I have the M50 and shoot in 1080 and it’s ALWAYS soft. Are you shootings in 4k and if so how is yours staying in focus? Stay safe and thanks for the great job you do

[@circuslife888]

Thanks for this bro! Did you use an ND filter to shoot on both lenses in this video? :-)

[@TheCrowleyCrew]

Yes. The same one if I remember.

[@beaudanner]

It's a tough thing, bud. But don't delete your channel. If you need encouragement just look to your earlier videos. See how much you've learned and grown. 👍🏼

[@Larimuss]

I'd love to know how you get your video so clean with this setup? Looks great compared to my stuff lol.

[@GrantMcWilliams]

Any chance your 22mm problems are because you dropped it? I've never seen these problems with the 22mm.

[@lebambole]

Very nice videoII :-) have you compare them in the night ? just to understand if the 1.4 is really better then 2.0. I mean, if there's a big difference or not.

[@jasp2003]

Nice editing man. I love the fluid location changes

[@dhananjayringe]

Very well made review with beautiful footage. Thanks. Just watched for the soft smooth background blue sky and sun. Wow

[@curtruth9147]

I'm new to digital photography and need to know what what computer specs you would recommend for processing 4K imaging and video. I greatly enjoy your videos and have since I bought an M50. Thank you

[@Chasing-Wisdom]

Hello My friend Thanks for the great video as usual :) I wish you can help me with your opinion I use my camera (M50) for video interviews I use 30mm and 16mm sigma Do you think that Viltrox 23mm will outperform those 2 lenses, or better save money on some other gears. Cheers Kaoud Sydney

[@SolidBlueBlocks]

The 16mm sigma is defiently better. Sharper better AF. I tested it, its soo good. But it has its price.

[@TheCrowleyCrew]

I would have to agree. The sigmas are really good, I cannot compare directly, but if you have the sigmas I would stick with them.

[@TheCrowleyCrew]

I would have to agree. The sigmas are really good, I cannot compare directly, but if you have the sigmas I would stick with them.

[@Chasing-Wisdom]

@@TheCrowleyCrew thanks man, I really highly appreciate your reply, you have no idea the difference it makes in my decision, I highly trust your opinion

[@Chasing-Wisdom]

@@SolidBlueBlocks thanks man, I already own the sigma, but I'm not expert in gears at all, 23mm was kinds a new focal length for me, didn't know weather it benefit me adding it to my gear for the purpose i mentioned . If I'm not that tight in budget these days, I would have picked one up to try :) But again thanks for you reply Cheers

[@koRiAnaV19]

Looks like i know what im gettin myself for a christmas gift😁 oh by the way, are u using ND filter shooting this outdoors?

[@devam2288]

I had the Canon 22mm and I found that the focusing with AF was too loud. Does anyone have the same issue or could it be that my lens was .....well not well build? I could hear it in the shots I took. I send it back and ordered the Viltrox. I hope that the AF is not loud at the Viltrox. The Kit lens has good enough and super quite AF. I hope that the Viltrox matches this. Nice comparison and thanks again for the code!

[@TheCrowleyCrew]

The Viltrox AF is just as quiet as the kit lens in my experience.

[@devam2288]

@@TheCrowleyCrew My lens came in today and I find it very nice. One question though. The autofocus seems to be much slower than the kit lens. Can I change this somewhere in the camera? I also have the M50. Also downloaded the newest firmware upgrade for the lens.

[@markdouglas8073]

I ended up getting the Viltrox-first, anyway. Did the update come out?

[@TheCrowleyCrew]

It did and it seems to be quite a bit better.

[@michaeloeser]

Got it today from Viltrox and my first impression is the same as yours.

[@TheCrowleyCrew]

There is a cinematic look that I love, but I really want them to fix the firmware issues.

[@RexxReviews]

Did you do the firmware update viltrox rolled out ? It is supposed to fix some of the focus issues

[@vntconcept]

is it ok to add viltrox speedbooster with 22m?

[@SuperYachtCaptain]

Always love your vids.

[@TheCrowleyCrew]

Thank you sir!

[@letsgivegodahome9835]

hi. thanks for your videos. i bought the viltrox 23 for my m50mark2. updated the firmware. i put the camera with lens on a tripod, set it on manual focus, 25 frames/sec, 1/60 . the picture looks good. then, when i stand in front of the camera and start to talk and as my body sways back and forth a little the lens goes in and out of focus. it is true that i am am a complete novice . any ideas? what menu settings settings do you use for manual focus videos. thanks in advance. dan brock

[@TheCrowleyCrew]

Have you updated the lens firmware. I had that problem with auto focus until they updated the firmware

[@heygem]

I wonder if I should sell my EF-M 22 mm for this 23 mm Viltrox.

[@TheCrowleyCrew]

I’d wait for the firmware stuff to be sorted out.

[@egyszeruenlaura]

Hi, I hav just received the same lensse in the mail today. In manual mode it works really well but when I switch to autofocus mode it says: Lens error, camera will shut down automatically. Anyone has any idea of what is going on? Is it some settings I need to change or the lens is actually faulty? Really looking forward to hear some of your thoughts. THank you

[@TheCrowleyCrew]

I have not had that problem. What camera are you using with them?

[@egyszeruenlaura]

@@TheCrowleyCrew Canon EOS M3

[@TheCrowleyCrew]

Okay, that is the issue. The M3 was made before dual pixel auto focus was created. The M3 has an older focusing system is different and the lens my not be compatible with the camera’s software.

[@egyszeruenlaura]

@@TheCrowleyCrew Thank you.

[@RandomTravellers]

Nice video bro...can you make one video with Viltrox 22mm and Sigma 16mm?

[@Catsndogsz]

Does the discount work for the 33 mm also? If not can you ask them to

[@TheCrowleyCrew]

Yes the code works for both lenses.

[@ScottJWaldron]

Nice comparison!

[@TheCrowleyCrew]

Thanks Scott!

[@MichaelBunDiTheFirst]

This is amazing.

[@Broskibrother]

is that a paintball arena?

[@TheCrowleyCrew]

Airsoft arena in Jacksonville NC.

[@whosyourbrad]

Awesome video brother 🔥

[@dannyzoofoo]

Great video thank!

[@CodyScott]

Good video!

[@TwoTimesRmedia]

I'm struggling with my channel I'm new to KZbin but I'm still trying to find my voice and my following. It can get very discouraging And frustrating.

[@chacmool2581]

The Viltrox stopped down to f/2 is not as sharp as the Canon wide open at the same aperture? Forget it, I ain't buying it. Sorry.

[@nmonye01]

Get a jacket fam. For those brisk days...layer up.

[@ubellubo]

The Viltrox sounds a bit better, but it is also more expensive.

[@DarnocTechCH]

Best vlog lens : Canon EF-S 10-18mm IS STM. You're welcome.

[@DavidClason]

Nah, Sigma 16mm f1.4

[@absolutexxxxx]

viltrox 23 is much better , i have both. viltrox 1.0.7 firmwere

[@TheCrowleyCrew]

I have to grab that!

[@Lesterandsons]

Very different lenses

[@TheCrowleyCrew]

They definitely have different feels.

[@Chasing-Wisdom]

Man Why don't you reply?

[@johnsmalldridge6356]

I know Job personally and he is a great person. He like many of us has a lot of things he has to do in his daily life for his work and his family. This is compounded by trying to make KZbin videos at a consistent rate. Ask anyone who has tried to do all these things at once and they will tell you it’s all but impossible. I myself am amazed that he can do all these things and in my opinion he does them all well and to a high standard. Because of this it doesn’t bother me if he doesn’t reply.

[@TheCrowleyCrew]

Hey man sorry, it was after midnight when you commented.

[@Chasing-Wisdom]

@@TheCrowleyCrew I'm really sorry, I never meant to be pushy, I was just waiting for your next upload to ask you my question quickly, in other words, catching you while you still there :). I like you video man and I really trust you over many other youtubers, that's why I was keen to ask you. Thanks for getting back to me, you're a great fella Cheers mate

[@Chasing-Wisdom]

@@johnsmalldridge6356 thanks John for explaining, I totally understand , it doesn't both me but indeed it makes me happy to get his opinion, we look high at him, even knowing how busy he gets, you still do your effort, wait till he's there uploading and trying to catch his attention. Every single gear I have, it was kinda because of a video Job made (including my camera), that's how we like,trust and appreciate his work.. Good luck to him, indeed he is a great man.

[@patjen22]

Lens too bulky compare to pancake. Not convenient for travel.

[@miguelangelturrubiates8200]

How do i SUCKscribee??

[@michal6690]

I hear on KZbin over and over the same background music, please try something new

[@johnsmalldridge6356]

Small KZbin channels are on a tight budget and not having to pay for music helps.