Canon C400 is HERE: Worth the WAIT?

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[@queefreak666]

Canon was the first in 2011 with the C300 and it changed the industry. They haven't been first since, but their cameras are probably the most well built of any. I have a C300, C300mkll and C500mkll. In the 14 years that I've gone from Sony/Panasonic to Canon, I have not had one single problem with any of my cameras, ever. That says a lot in this business.

[@nyambe]

The price of the C400 tells us a lot about the market. In the cinema camera world this is actually a budget price, yet on the other hand Sony is launching $25000 cameras with compromises.

[@philippscheithauer]

It tells us that canon is clinging to the last people in this market since they are losing so much market share in the video world since Sony took over with the FX6/FX9 for documentary work (which Canon used to dominate in). On higher commercial or movie sets, Canon was never a thing.

[@nyambe]

@@philippscheithauer That was exactly my thought. I have seen people that like this camera but they already have a C70 or c500ii or both. This is the target public for this camera. I guess Canon is bleeding their last loyal customers.

[@LoungearoundTV]

Sony has really caused a disruption by listening to their customers. I hope Canon can pull through, otherwise there wont be any competition left. The burano still tops out here, bar the 2ms difference in 6k 50fps rolling shutter.

[@nyambe]

@@LoungearoundTV The Price of the Burano tells you how much Sony knows about the market. In that segment, the exec produces that are paying the gig, are going to think if it cost as much as a camera X, it must be as good as camera X. Cranky cameraman was just talking about that. Clientes often want more expensive stuff, because they are already in so deep.

[@LoungearoundTV]

@@nyambe The burano is the only IbIs camera with ND filters and works with Pl Mounts with 16bits instead of 12bit raw (40x the quality of 12bit). Not really a good comparison. It's miles ahead.

[@josephberkeley]

It's a good announcement for Canon. I'm still happy with my C70. If I didn't own the C70 I would take a hard look at. the C400. But so far the C70 does everything I ask it to do. It has pulled its weight on three productions alongside Sony Venice 1, Sony Venice 2, Sony FX6, and Arri Alexa mini. Yes, it was a C, or D camera but the footage looked great and it absolutely held its own against the heavyweights.

[@noranoskyle4417]

of course not when you are working with those cameras lol

[@josephberkeley]

@@noranoskyle4417 The thing I love about the C70 is I can shoot it alone on a director scout and on B roll days. A lot of times I will get footage in advance of the full crew day that ends up in finished edit because the light was perfect. It's funny how the conditions on scout day are always ideal. So is the Canon C70 better than an Arri Alexa? If the Arri Alexa is sitting on a shelf in a rental house and I'm on location with the C70, yes.

[@noranoskyle4417]

​@@josephberkeley The c70 is probably the most go-to camera. That camera won't see a mark ii for some time. When there is mark ii release nobody should expect the price of the mark I to drop much

[@Vervoult]

Still love my C200 - full XLR ports, RAW 4K DCI 60fps and much more.

[@bfyre1]

ALL THESE CAMAERAS WONT MAKE YOUR PRODUCTION BETTER. STOP FALLING FOR THIS GUYS

[@Mr_Kenneth]

Spot on. EVERY CAMERA performs brilliantly in the right hands

[@bfyre1]

@@Mr_Kenneth perfectly said. People will praise this camera until another one releases next month lol. I always think about the audience and the ones watching really give two shits what you shot with just as long as they can see it clear enough and the audio is good to their ears with a good story. The way camera companies make money is to mKe new cameras.

[@timdanyo898]

If I shot Canon I’d be stoked with this camera.

[@sa.t.2507]

I have an FX9 and I am thinking of going to the C400. Also thinking if it would be a downgrade but looking at it on paper the C400 beats it and does more.

[@EmeraldAudiovisual]

You missed the Panasomic Lumix GH7 launch so. They have just added 32-bit float to that via the new XLR2 adapter.

[@contentm3893]

The GH7 image won't hold up to the C400

[@EmeraldAudiovisual]

@@contentm3893 Of course it won't. It doesn't have the same dynamic range, nor is it a full frame sensor. I didn't indicate, that it would. But they've added some very interesting features for a very compact package.

[@mbismbismb]

C400 would step on it like it step on a dust.... no feeling anything 🙁

[@CringePanda]

It's available for pre-order, do you know when it actually starts selling?

[@janisbrod]

4:27 you say you don't want to "give up the image quality and dynamic range of the C500 Mark II" - what makes you think the image quality of the C400 would be a downgrade? The C500 MkII is not a DGO sensor either, right?

[@videojourneys]

C400 hundred has an announced dynamic range of 16 stops. That's huge. C500 mkii is 15+. I think he might've misread that. But who knows. Only real world testing can tell.

[@Crimsonengine]

Canon are saying that. Otherwise why still sell the C500m2 for $2k more?

[@الجامح-ل4ذ]

The reason it's called c500 which is above c400, and there are some huge differences between them, likewise the full size XLR inputs , the evf on the back of c500, dual CFexpress cards found in c500 and some buttons and layouts changes

[@CringePanda]

Call me crazy but I only heard of the C400 today. Now I have to decide between it and the C500 II. Help?

[@tomdchi12]

I'll be the one to point it out: The new Panasonic GH7 with their updated XLR accessory is the first "on camera" 32 bit float audio system. For doc/doc-style that would be a great feature, as would something like Sony's in-body electronic variable ND. I wonder if Canon is working on updating their full cinema line?

[@BryanBenoitPhoto]

Canon has never been at the cutting edge of innovation. They will add 32 bit in a couple years (or 8 😅)

[@italogiardina8183]

Hope to see the course on Canon master class soon along with it possible use case with the dual fisheye lens for 3D capture.

[@tangbefilms]

from which camera u shoot this video its so clear and crispy

[@dejavuking]

It doesn’t even have the features of the including a lens £2000 lumix s5iix. The lumix can record raw straight to ssd without a monitor, it has open gate, it has anamorphic de squeeze in camera, it has far far superior iso performance, it’s already been reported this camera has very bad noisy higher iso performance!. It has built in variable nd but so does the Sony fx6!. No pro av have already said this c400 has very bad noisy high iso, noisy shadows. So it’s worse than the fx6!. The moment the fx6 m2 is released this camera is obsolete.

[@alfredknodler540]

Hi Sir - thanks for your great work once more. I have kind of niche-question. I own the C70 and the R6ii and do TV run and gun work. The R6ii has great downsampled lowlight and a great looking but only 8bit 4k 50p. I got the R5ii now for the 4k 100p and better codecs but I shocked about the lowlight capabilities. If you had the C70 and R6ii and the chance to replace one of them - would you get the C400 for the C70 or the R5ii for the R6ii?

[@ortegacinema]

Great video. I’m excited for Canons new release. Would love to see them become a major contender against Sony, Arri and Red. They still are the only company with the color science that stands up next to Arri.

[@Whaever_1981]

We'll need tests before we can 100% determine whether the C500 mark II has better DR. Also, Panasonic just released the GH7 with 32 bit float onboard ;P Great vid. thx!

[@trucks762]

downgrade from C500 Mark 2? I had that camera, it's amazing but this looks to be on par if not better... I see a lot of guys defending the c500 that own them, it feels like the guys defending buying a Burano, I miss my c500 Mark2, this has got me tempted to jump back to Canon, I definitely wouldn't feel like I'm missing anything buying a C400 over a C500 Mark 2..

[@sa.t.2507]

I would say that this is an upgrade from C500 II. I have an FX9 and I am thinking of going to the C400. Also thinking if it would be a downgrade but looking at it on paper the C400 beats it and does more.

[@carlosalonso4783]

Could you please cover the new canon R5 mark II for those who still need a hybrid camera, but want to write/film personal projects. Many Thanks. Great channel !!!

[@spinkscapes775]

5:45 - 32 bit audio you say. Interesting that you raised this feature today of all days. Let me introduce you to the newly announced Panasonic GH7 which has 32 bit audio. I suppose when you're charging a premium like Panasonic are for the GH7 you would include some elite features like 32-bit float, internal ProRes RAW and ARRI LogC3.

[@contentm3893]

The Gh7 image will be lacking. Go for it though and that 4/3 sensor

[@jlmd8218]

Don’t you need a 500 bucks audio module for 32 bit? Isn’t it the LogC a software key PAID license, that limits your ISO options and lacks DR?

[@drwrong-wx8yk]

I've a question, somebody knows if the 4k/120 fps is possible in intra-frame ? Tjank you'

[@alzibaba]

Great overview, thanks! Lots to like about this cam, though the choice of usb c for monitor and handle surprised me. Time will tell how secure and robust these connections are in the field.

[@djvphotography]

When the C300 Mark III launched, it was $10,999USD. At $7,999USD, the C400 is $3,00USD less than the C300 Mark III's original price.

[@retlwiz]

Apart from the tiny screen it looks like Canon have got it right on this one, albeit a couple of years too late. Sony dropped the ball a bit with the Burano having two big flaws (rolling shutter and IR pollution) so it’s a good chance for Canon to get back in there. I personally dislike shooting on Sony but do so because that’s what is expected nowadays - I would love to see Canon be one widely used amongst pros again.

[@daniellove162]

I loooove the Venice look and often use Sony products but personally I just enjoy using Canon.

[@brettthemonster]

Seems worth the wait to me. Especially at the price.

[@primo8825]

C600 confirmed

[@CrossCory]

What? Where? When?

[@primo8825]

@@CrossCory 4:35

[@Mr_Moka]

Am I the only one who thinks full frame is vastly overrated for anything outside of docu and feature films?

[@JanAndhisfiets]

Full frame for life

[@danbrockettDOP]

I used to think FF was stupid, still do to a point, I dislike the FOV compared to S35 for one thing. The heavier, more expensive lenses for another. BUT , I did recently buy an FX6 for a particular client who has repeating weekly gig that they shoot on two other Sony cameras so I kind of had to buy a Sony for this client. It's shot in a theater with theatrical lighting which as many of you have experienced, translates to pretty low lighting levels for video shooting. It is a live streamed gig so shooting Slog 3 with it's base ISOs of 800/12,800 isn't possible but the FX6 in S-Cinetone still has base ISOs of 320 and 5000. At ISO 5,000, our TD still is amazed by how good the image looks. I own three Canons and they look decent at ISO 2500 but the Sony is impressive at ISO 5000. I still don't like the FOV, but for this gig, where I don't get to light it and I have to work with whatever the LD is putting out, the FX6 has been an effective tool, client loves how good the images look at such a high ISO. I'm still not a fan of Sony and I think this FX6 is crappiest built pro camera I have ever owned but for this one gig, it serves its purpose well because of the FF, high base ISO and really good AF. It's handheld (well, Easy Rig) with me constantly moving and switching off subjects who are also moving so the AF is kind of a necessity even though I prefer manual focus mostly. The takeaway is, even if you aren't a fan of a certain camera or manufacturer, sometimes, it's still the right tool to use. I shot the first few episodes with one of my Canons and the client did not like the footage, so I rented the FX6 a couple of times and they loved it so I had to buy it. This gig will have the FX6 paid for in about two more months of shoots and then it will generate profit/income for me each week and I already used it for a gig for Mazda North America that paid a good chunk of it off too. Corporate clients really love Sony.

[@Mr_Moka]

@@danbrockettDOP​​⁠I completely agree. The point of my comment was to just say FF has been such a trend for everybody lately that it makes it so that it sounds like the only and best option. I don’t dislike FF at all. But I do believe that sometimes some people can overlook great systems and image quality simply because of sensor size. But I do completely understand you point and it’s valid.

[@Felix19622]

Hello, guys, Canon EVF-V50 OLED Viewfinder Will this viewfinder fit the new Canon C400 camera and will it work? and the second question is, is it possible to fix the manfrotto pad directly to the bottom of this chamber? or do you need an additional platform separately?

[@drwrong-wx8yk]

I've a question, does somebody knows if the 4k/120 fps is possible in intra-frame ? Thank you

[@SG09-o8d]

That's enough, a strange camera! There is no DGO lower dynamic range than the C70, it is impossible to install a viewfinder, one slot for Express Type B, so forget about the copy, why they made 4k 120p in the S35 crop is not clear to me...

[@dsdddsd4543we]

The camera is a home run, but just feels a bit late. FX6 users would need to sell their E Mount Glass and give up third party lenses to go with the C400.

[@gusseDSX]

What are you using for eyelight in this video?

[@LoungearoundTV]

I'm not so sure yet, every camera has it's own artefacts. Looks like theres denoising artefacts on Canon's promo short film video at 1.25 and 1.28. fairly terrible on the blue light...That doesnt seem to happen on Burano. I've included their promo footage here from Canon USA.... has anyone tested this yet? kzbin.info/www/bejne/marIcplriKt4rsk Also note that it's missing IBIS, so no handheld with prime or vintage lenses without a gimbal. Focus breathing correction is also missing...12bit raw - These days 13-16bit compressed raw is becoming the norm. But great to see triple ISO. Keep it competitive Canon!

[@KevKlopper]

Where did you get the information that the monitor is "open standard" that's sounds very unlike Canon. I can't find any info on this.

[@Crimsonengine]

CVP's video. It could be that they were talking about USB-C being open. It hasn't been confirmed yet.

[@wuidzeit_simon]

Lumix GH7 with XLR adapter : 32bit float audio on 3 channels / half the weight / quarter the price … think of the team you could staff with the MFT system and a Laowa 24-90 - two crews for the price of one body …

[@erikpreston2393]

And how much was the Burano again?

[@mbismbismb]

That sounds like a mexican food

[@danbrockettDOP]

@@mbismbismb A lot of the cool kids call it the Burrito, even some who own it.

[@gsanchez922]

The new GH7 have 32bit flot audio. I guess that will be on the C600

[@zakforsman]

Given the C500 mark II and the C400 plus the $1600 PL mount makes those cameras nearly the same cost, which is the better camera for doc work: formal interviews, on the fly interviews, b-roll, etc.

[@colinthomas2525]

The camera is amazing and priced well. My only complaint and this is complaint to all brands is just stop it with the stupid little screens. Just have a usb-c port and allow monitoring the footage and controlling the camera with our smart phones.

[@paulengle5784]

Is the R6 of your R5/R6 masterclass the Mk I or Mk II?

[@iyason6878]

You look even more gorgeous

[@isimbicinemacenter2501]

thanks

[@WelcomeBackTommy]

"32bit float audio.. I don't know of any camera system has that." Funny you said that cause Lumix just announced it for their GH7 yesterday

[@michaelgromann1804]

No 8k? Am I the only one who wants a viewfinder on the C400? You can't even use the OLED EVF of the C500 II as an addon.

[@queefreak666]

That EVF is more expensive than the C400. Just get a Gratical and be happy.

[@phrasalsyntax]

C400 has a USB C connector now (that sends data and power). This means that you can use third party EVFs which work through USB C, like the nice new Blackmagic one.

[@queefreak666]

@@phrasalsyntax What if the Blackmagic signal is proprietary to Blackmagic cameras only?

[@phrasalsyntax]

@@queefreak666 could be, but BM typically don't like those type of corporate policies (differently than Canon and Sony) so we have to see. If BM doesn't a allow its EVF to be used, other manufacturers will come with solutions. I hear from a representative from Canon that they will allow that in the case of an EVF and that's good news because a camera is not a real camera if it lacks an EVF in my opinion.

[@yousifwleed1935]

I think it would be better if they went for Ef mount instead of Rf, or native PL would be even better. And the monitor is very tiny they could increased the size more. Can’t wait to see the dynamicrange tests and the autofocus

[@FelixCervantes]

Nonsense, the EF mount is a dead mount. With the RF mount, there are many more lenses that are available. You can get a RF-M mount to add Leica lenses. And you can always add an adapter that will allow you to use EF or PL lenses. With the RF mount, you can now use the beautiful Cooke SP3 lenses which are small and soon the new Zeiss Nano lenses.

[@gavthane]

Insane wanting it to be EF in 2024.

[@yousifwleed1935]

@@FelixCervantes even the cine servo lenses still rocking Ef mount, how could it be dead and nonsense?

[@danbrockettDOP]

@@yousifwleed1935 It's definitely dead since Canon has stopped making EF lenses years ago but there are literally millions of EF lenses out there. I agree with the others though, it is smarter to buy a camera with a modern mount like RF, L or E mount and adapt EF lenses to it. I own fifteen EF lenses including the CN E 18-80 t/4.4 so I want to keep using my EF lenses since they are like old friends at this point but a more modern mount is a better investment,.

[@DeanCoffey]

Id love to see your review of the new smallrig mini v mount batteries.