Canon C400 Hands On! - The BEST Camera Under 10K?

[@mittaw]

Red Komodo(-X) on sale. Blackmagic Pyxis soon to be released. Now Canon with this monster camera. Interesting times.

[@temuerasamuel]

Then canon’s like but wait there’s more.. boom C80 full frame

[@mittaw]

@@temuerasamuel OH SHIT! The camera war has begon!

[@eugenekubak7857]

​@@temuerasamuel hell yeah

[@eugenekubak7857]

​@mittaw yeah bro the camera wars are back red blackmagic canon sony the race us on.

[@adamlabadie]

I'd be really curious to see how this compares to the Kinefinity Mavo Edge.

[@joshkiddfilms1295]

TBH there's nothing in this footage that makes the C400 stand out to me or really look any better than most of the other mirrorless on the market. Certainly doesn't have that wow factor the C500 Mk2 seemed to have, where you just thought...dang that looks good. Just my opinion...I have no dog in the fight.

[@Makta972]

Agreed. The lack of DGO makes it like every other mirorless camera. The C70 image quality looks more special

[@mavfan1]

Why begin with the douchey TBH? Do you usually lie?

[@joshkiddfilms1295]

@@mavfan1 you are way overthinking it. It’s just a phrase kind of similar to “in my opinion.” Just as douchey to call someone a douche for using the phrase to be honest, as to say it in the first place.

[@Chandler_Goodrich]

CineD shot a test docu that I think shows the potential of the camera for narrative filmmaking. That documentary, to me, feels more like a cinema verite narrative film, than a docu. I only realized it was a docu when they cut to the interview.

[@jomprodlive]

i believe it is the lens and grading choice that makes it look just "ok"

[@cocoytv1]

A c400 vs c500 MK2 comparison would be great since they are both full frame 6K bodies and the exact same price now.

[@NorthwestCameraCo]

@@cocoytv1 we might do that at some point soon after things slow down a bit

[@davidmorefield]

I’m stoked with how stoked you are about this camera. Definitely a long time coming. Canon users should be re-energized.

[@matthewmaccarthy8542]

Cool video. Why aren’t Digicon filters available to buy anywhere?

[@videosuperhighway7655]

Also the C400 is Only Fans approved as well.

[@Filmguy2016]

@@videosuperhighway7655 that’s a wild comment

[@jamescook5931]

Many viewers might not realize it, but KZbinrs often have a financial incentive to promote certain products, including films and other media. While it isn’t always clear who’s getting paid for these promotions, we shouldn’t be naive-videos like these are often crafted with marketing goals in mind.

[@NorthwestCameraCo]

Luckily we just do this for fun. So that part will never change on our channel. One of the few out there that doesn’t care about views, pay, etc. hoping it’s always educational and never changes.

[@bencherry5038]

Thanks as always guys for another brilliantly insightful video.

[@NorthwestCameraCo]

@@bencherry5038 anytime!!!

[@simonyoung1339]

From all the footage I've seen it seems like a very good camera with a subpar OLPF.

[@JesusPursuit]

I really wish the Komodo x had internal NDs, only thing keeping with my c70 and maybe c400.. idk 🤷‍♂️ still thinking 🤔

[@NorthwestCameraCo]

we put the breathrough DFM VND system on our Raptor and Komodo and its been amazing. Not quite as ideal as having it built into the body but its been a big help.

[@JesusPursuit]

@@NorthwestCameraCo nice! Yea I can never go back to that now 😂😂

[@quadeemhall5297]

I was trained on the c500 as a cinematographer personally and I’m surprised you didn’t use the canon prime lenses, but the crazy thing is I switched to the lumix s5iix and it pretty much looks better and shoots 6k braw/6k pro res with maxing ibis. Granted it’s a prosumer cinema camera and doesn’t have internal ND but for $2k it blows this out the water. I love canon as my 2nd choice above Sony

[@MrJayclas]

@@quadeemhall5297 Panasonic has that secret sauce with vlog and BRAW. I’m shooting on the S1 with BRAW and it’s nothing short of amazing.

[@ShellyBHollis]

Very true

[@MrJayclas]

It does beat the Sony Burano what what I’m seeing.

[@nicholasboulemedia9317]

especially since you can buy 3 of them for the price of 1 Burano

[@frankbregulla564]

What do you see?

[@CartyCantDance]

I would love to see someone actually push the colors in these new canon cameras at all the new base ISO’s. I’m curious if the footage is actually RAW, or if it still retains some canon image processing that you can’t remove.

[@NorthwestCameraCo]

@@CartyCantDance we are gonna put out a video where we take the same shot and do 4 different color grades, one of them extreme colors, one day for night ish look etc. that’ll be one of our next videos in the c400 series. But the codec is very capable.

[@CartyCantDance]

@@NorthwestCameraCo love to hear it! I was just in Seattle for the holiday weekend, and wish I could’ve visited yall. I see a lot of people doing comparisons to the Pyxis or Komodo X, and those cameras are known for their color. If we could see all 3 and compare them with the GFX100 or the Alexa, idk I feel like people are looking for that content.

[@TJIzzy]

The RAW in Arri & RED is "real", I think the other brands have a version of RAW that isn't quite the same. Still really good though.

[@CartyCantDance]

@@TJIzzy yeah that’s why I want to see the colors pushed. 12 bit (whether real raw or not) is exactly what you want as a colorist

[@TJIzzy]

@@CartyCantDance R3D looks "thick" to me colorwise. If thats what you want, buy a RED.

[@nicholasboule5134]

What do y’all think of the C80 now with the c400 sensor for cheaper and sdi now all in the c70 body? Does that give the c400 a run for its money?

[@TheFrankJanssens]

Damnn these Arri lenses. mygod.

[@avx111]

I really need this to have a good wireless control app like Red has, it's so close to being perfect.

[@scottievee330]

Canon has an app for it.

[@gerthenriksen8818]

Thanks, great info. What is the body made of? Plastic, magnisium alloy?

[@tossemanden]

Ok guys. First of all thanks for a great video. One little question: how is the IS for handheld with primes?

[@NorthwestCameraCo]

Well. If you’re used to the c500ii then it’s on par and slightly better. It does work well. On par in my opinion with Sonys in body stabilization. Both have cons but equal out to similar results in use.

[@tossemanden]

@@NorthwestCameraCo thank you so much for you super fast reply!!!

[@lachiem]

@@NorthwestCameraCo My concern with the IS is how it handles moving subjects within the frame. The C70's Digital IS has this quirk where it will latch onto a subject and almost follow them, which is especially annoying and noticeable if they're jumping up and down causing the video to bounce with them. I've heard the C400 has the ability to turn this kind of behavior off, is that true?

[@baekmedier]

Could the C400 match well with the R1 as a A + B cam setup for professional interviews ? Right now I use two C70 for the purpose... and a R5C and an R3 for Photos... would be awesome to only have two cameras on the shelf.. Maybe with the RF 15-35 f2,8 + RF 24-105 f 2.8 ??? would that actually be the setup to get? I mean both have Clog 2... one is 24 MP and the other one is 26 mp... almost same sharpness I guess.. How would it work filming runners in a big marathon?? how does the 2.0 autofocus work in a crazy situation like that?

[@ethanwisotzkey]

Do the xlr ports give you phantom power? I can’t seem to find an answer….

[@NorthwestCameraCo]

They do

[@ethanwisotzkey]

@@NorthwestCameraCoThank you! That is great to hear! I’m stoked to get it…. I looks like a great step up from my r5c while still having the same color science for easy color matching…

[@besisikaphotography3061]

I am wondering, how different is the computational power requirement between raw LT and raw HQ.

[@invisibleadversary]

It’s crazy how much you look like Alfonso Cuarón.

[@scottievee330]

I got one coming. I am pumped. Can you record thru USBC to an external drive do you know? This thing is insane for the money. Kinda funny how hard people gotta work to try to sh*t on it. It does nearly all of it. Funny. You are very good source especially with all the other cameras at your disposal as reference. The Canon image smokes the Burano IMHO.

[@jamescook5931]

Does the C400 have better image quality than the red Komodo X? If you didn't own a camera and you had to choose between the C80 vs C400, which one would you choose and why?

[@IlyaPodnebesmiy]

Thank you. I didn't know that this camera was better than Burano. You were talking about stabilization. Do you mean matrix stabilization? You know that matrix stabilization is always bad for a movie camera, because on the camera cart the image begins to turn into jelly even with stabilization disabled.

[@GabrielScindian]

You had me at "It outshines the Burano"

[@SuperPhunThyme100]

Burano was overpriced when it launched. Sony fucked the pooch with that one.

[@shinzychan5117]

Cry more Sony fanboy 😂😂😂 Ofcourse it’s better than Burano

[@loudandclearmedia]

I know several people out there making money with Burano. Don't know anyone making money with C400.

[@SuperPhunThyme100]

@@loudandclearmedia ....Because it's not out yet. Burano has been out for a year.

[@scottievee330]

@@loudandclearmedia Odd point to make bud. Very odd.

[@chaserickaby5024]

How are those Cooke's?

[@dimitrimoonlight]

Nikon & Red 🎉

[@tobiasfalk9112]

The shots look really great, but you also have some of the best lenses possible! Canon really got their act together.

[@aldolega]

5:57 does the Sony e-ND cause polarization problems? It isn't a traditional V-ND with polarizing elements.

[@NorthwestCameraCo]

If you try to run polarizers with some of their models, you can get some artifacting. They solved this pretty well on the burano but at the expense of some IR pollution.

[@filmyardart]

What’s a digicon filter where to find it could u show

[@GabrielScindian]

25600 noise looks like film

[@NorthwestCameraCo]

@@GabrielScindian I rather like it to be honest. Was a surprising find.

[@wjohnson1186]

@@NorthwestCameraCo but why did you shoot at a non-native iso? Why not kick it up to clean it up?

[@NorthwestCameraCo]

@@wjohnson1186 well mainly wanted to see how much range you have after that native stop. The native stops perform well but does it have the same flexibility to bump it up a stop or more without getting crazy noise. Personally I don’t know if I’d go more than the actual native third base iso in terms of usability.

[@wjohnson1186]

​@@NorthwestCameraCo I can see what you were looking for now. I get the test. See how much more that middle base can give on range between base ISOs. How much more leverage. That is not a test I had seen in all the reviews I have watched so far. I have an order in for the camera and all these reviews are so far confirming how this camera will fit my needs. Thanks for the follow up.

[@nickdual]

Great camera

[@UNITEDWEFALLthemovie]

Why doesn’t Hollywood just use the cannon then?

[@tuzuharurakutu]

Red just announced a huge price drop for the komodo x, which arguably has a better image and codec overall, it'll be interesting to see how it'll play out in the near future. I'm personally very hesitant.

[@frankfeng2701]

Primarily due to C400

[@thenextscuba]

Komodo X is an insane camera but its for a very different market. no real AF, no real high ISO, no real audio inputs. C400 will do it all.

[@MegaMaster04]

Komodo x Global shutter 😮‍💨👌

[@thequadfather9303]

Not trying to argue but how did you come to the conclusion about it having a better image? The codec is for sure dope though. DR wise though - the R5 II just got tested by Gerald Undone and has a better DR than the Komodo X. My suspicion is the price drop is in response to the c400 because it’s a threat. Nikon may also be trying to sell most off in anticipation for a new product, however. Idk! Either way I think competition is so good for all of us in the market!

[@tuzuharurakutu]

@@thequadfather9303 Dynamic range numbers alone, while very enticing don't tell the whole story. Other parameters like rolloff, sharpness, micro contrast make for a general better image than DR alone, which arguably have always been best on Red and Arri cameras. But yeah, it's all very subjective and I would argue that skill is more important that gear. The competition is indeed close. Very excited to see all these manufacturers compete, we consumerw / users are very lucky these days

[@GabrielScindian]

So what would you do if you had 8k. Komodo X at the new price point on the C400

[@NorthwestCameraCo]

@@GabrielScindian c400 without literally any hesitation.

[@KGFIQ]

@@NorthwestCameraCo but why? Everything I see seems like IQ is "better" on the KX than the C400. Plus SSD recording.

[@GabrielScindian]

@@NorthwestCameraCo I was going with the C400 as I have been playing with my R52 in video mode and the flexibility in clog2 is amazing. Now I use CLog2 on my C70 testing it against my Red Dragon. The C400 looks to a new workhorse. I just need 1.5x desqueeze which I have not seen canon implement yet

[@TJIzzy]

Komodo is awesome if you have the time and a small crew to help with everything. The lack of internal ND's, slow boot time, black balancing, poor AF etc make it less than ideal for running around with. Slower productions with help, they are great. I think RED is going to release a cheaper full frame cine cam in the next year. Cheaper, as in 10-16k.

[@GabrielScindian]

@@TJIzzy C400 for me

[@TrustyDigitalMedia]

Yeah but it’s full frame

[@michaelgromann1804]

No Viewfinder not like the C500... 😅

[@wjuice2020]

Reading these comments I see a lot of angry Sony, Panasonic & black magic fans. That confirms this is a great camera 😂😂😂😂

[@fsb5370]

Any one can film any good quality movie with any good camera. This camera is not for big-budget big-screen productions.

[@NorthwestCameraCo]

@@fsb5370 give me a single legitimate reason why.

[@loudandclearmedia]

@@NorthwestCameraCo because the codecs are atrocious. Big production contract entire teams of people to work with the footage after it is captured, and codecs matter.

[@sasqwatch35mm]

Good job Canon, good job! Thank you for creating a competitive landscape and hopefully Sony will respond with something similar at affordable price.

[@AlexDerrick_DP]

The models skin doesn't look beautiful in any shot! If you look at 2:26 for example. The green hues in the trees leaves and her sweater don't separate into unique hues, and the sensor is having a hard time discriminating between the different variations of yellow and red in her face making her skin look flat. The camera is only seeing 3 tones; skin tones and the walls are very close, the greens are all about the same, and the lips, railings and hair are about the same. Secondary color reproduction is weak. hard pass on this camera.

[@NorthwestCameraCo]

For what it’s worth, under this tree, our mini LF and Venice perform almost identically. It’s a tough scene since it’s almost 100 percent green reflected light onto skin. It’s sort of a make or break testing area we’ve found. But it’s awesome that it performs almost identically to cameras that cost 10 times as much.

[@AutospeciLvAkumulatori]

VERY SHAKY FOOTAGE, NOT VIEWABLE.

[@SuperGeekTime]

should have gotten a shot of the model taking off and putting on her sunglasses. missed opportunity maybe next time. :p

[@Easyfilm84]

Why choose anything else? Because Blackmagic objectively looks better.

[@Filmguy2016]

Saying Blackmagic “objectively” looks better when by the numbers C400 has more DR, better low light, better read out speed is wild lmao. If what you meant to say is you like the color better that’s a completely subjective opinion.

[@MrGygygygy]

i really like the image stabelizer.....oh it dosn't have one ?

[@frenchcoupon3391]

Nah. Seriously, who needs more than 4k. Even 4k is an overkill for short movies. I’ll stick to my Canon C100 and my 1DCs.

[@mahutaproductions8498]

Nice thing about the big sensor is you can put the camera in super 35 mode and still shoot in 4k, I use this all the time on my R5C.

[@vladimirtalijan]

C70 still better for solo shooters.

[@Makta972]

Better image quality too

[@johndoe-rd3hq]

The skin tone color science for the buwano is CLOSER to ARRI....it's PERFECT with NONE of the usual SONY CyAn ® specular highlights in the skin as exhibited in their lower end cameras. The canon skin is yellower ...but it's still GOOD {no SONY CyAn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! } and I do luuuuuuv me some Canon color. So it seems that Sony cripples its color science like Canon cripples everything with the exception of the C400. So why didn't you compare the low light of the Canton c400 to the BUwano? Oh... that's right ...the c400 even beats ( I refuse to say equals ) the fx3 and fsx 6 in low light . I think if these cameras cost the same I would give it a tie. The skin tone color science from the burnano ive seen online has impressed me.

[@andonitheac]

The highlight roll off seems a bit harsh.

[@NorthwestCameraCo]

@@andonitheac where at specifically? We do talk about lessening that though with a little filtration but it’s on par with Burano, c500, fx6, RED in terms of how it handles highlight roll off straight out of camera.

[@andonitheac]

​@@NorthwestCameraCo ​Specifically I see it above the eyebrow in first few clips but wonder if its the dehancer grade? and also in the low light tests there seems to be hot spots on the skin that look very digital. To me it seems a bit more harsh and eye catching over videos with the Sonys, reds, c70 etc. Its been something that has caught my eye in all c400 videos coming out, so i wonder if its a preproduction unit thing, or something you can adjust in the color profile in camera.

[@TJIzzy]

It is compared to the C70 or a RED. It doesnt have the same dynamic range as a C70, but it also isnt bad. Canon seemed to have a different use case with this cam in mind. They made a good full frame cine cam that does amazing in low light. I would use this camera for sports, corporate, not narrative cinematic scenarios. It still could do it, but there are better options for slow paced stuff.

[@JBGIMAGINATION]

Best digital cinema camera under 10k is the Red Komodo X for $6995

[@iyason6878]

Camera tilt and movement make me vomit

[@alexiskobalt7450]

Dude! If cannot nail focus, then don't put those shots up. Especially at the start of a video about a brand new camera.

[@MrJayclas]

Looks amazing to me, stop hating😂

[@alexiskobalt7450]

@@MrJayclas Your clients must love you, Soft-Focus Charlie.

[@NorthwestCameraCo]

@@alexiskobalt7450 if Nolan can do it in Oppenheimer, so can we. ;)

[@alexiskobalt7450]

@@NorthwestCameraCo Hey, that's a damn fine response! How did you know I was sitting in that IMAX theatre wanting to punch Hoyt in the face for his crappy cinematography. Mind reader, you?

[@Jaydexterphoto]

I thought base iso was 128,000 but you shot 25,600 what am I missing?

[@NorthwestCameraCo]

@@Jaydexterphoto it is 12,800. And we wanted to see what it looked like pushed a stop.

[@hawaiifreespeechnews]

All of the sample footage I've seen from this Camera is shaky ASF. Doesn't it have in camera or digital stabilization? What is going on here Canon?

[@TJ-po9ol]

Cinema cameras don’t have IBIS. Burano does, but it has IR pollution & terrible rolling shutter

[@hawaiifreespeechnews]

@@TJ-po9ol Well the C400 supposedly does similar to the R3 otherwise this camera would be completely useless for run and gun situations

[@TJ-po9ol]

@@hawaiifreespeechnews You aren’t a professional, pros don’t have ibis in cinema cameras.

[@hawaiifreespeechnews]

@@TJ-po9ol What part of "run and gun" shooting did you not understand? If you don't want to distract your audience with camera shaking or use unreliable software stabilization in fcpx and resolve then it makes sense to have some kind of IBIS or digital stabilization to begin with. Stop trying to prop yourself up as "professional" filmer, you have nothing to show

[@TJ-po9ol]

@@hawaiifreespeechnews I can shoot handheld on a cinema camera without it shaking, because I’m not a noob. You hold it against your chest or put it on the shoulder. That’s how documentaries have been filmed forever haha. There isn’t a single top end cinema cam out there with ibis, burano is trash. If a director doesn’t want any handheld movement in the shot, they use a steady cam/gimbal. You sound like a mirrorless shooter, should stick to that.

[@JBGIMAGINATION]

“What makes a great cinema camera” first thing he mentions is the I/O, lol.

[@JBGIMAGINATION]

Don’t compare the Red Raptor X- The best digital cinema camera-with this canon.

[@TJIzzy]

Arri LF is way better

[@reelweaver]

The Movie shoot on this will probably be about potatoes. Looking forward to seeing Sony beeting the C400 by far end of the year with FX6 Mark II. C400 is a blast. But wont be state of the art for long. No auto ND Filter. No Seamless ND Filter. Its a great Camera. Far from perfect.

[@JBGIMAGINATION]

Don’t compare the Red Raptor X- The best digital cinema camera-with this canon.

[@NorthwestCameraCo]

@@JBGIMAGINATION while the raptor is a fantastic camera, the c400 bests it in a few areas. Pros and cons of each might result in a pretty even match

[@JBGIMAGINATION]

@@NorthwestCameraCo that is amusing to say the least.

[@NorthwestCameraCo]

@@JBGIMAGINATION I say this with zero bias as personally raptor x is my favorite camera out and I use it on almost all of my jobs I can get it on.