To be honest the BMPCC line was never meant to be compete with the high end video cameras, it's a cinema camera after all, it requires everything else from the preproduction to the controls of the production and then post-production in the pipeline to shine its spots which were designed for, it combines more features to the portability but it's not supposed to be used as a run and gun style of camera, it's a budget and the best (and almost only) option for an indie filmmaker who has higher expectation to their work.
@AlpacoFilms2 жыл бұрын
This has ALWAYS how I viewed Blackmagic as! Completely agree!
@Ah_Yote2 жыл бұрын
Exactly, I wouldn’t call the canon c70 high end, but either way comparing an actual Cinematic camera to something like the c70 is ridiculous, if you’re a KZbinr obvious the c70 is the camera you should get,
@The11thPower2 жыл бұрын
This is true, it’s easily the best budget cinema camera. The c70 is more of a hybrid cinema
@ShaneFoley3 жыл бұрын
Ultimately that's what $3000 extra pricetag gets you. more refined, convenient features. I am glad there is a $2500 option though with this level of image quality!
@JordanPulmano3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely! And the BMP is amazing. I have the 4k and plan to keep it
@NickBB3 жыл бұрын
I couldn't agree more...if you have the cash for a C70...then get a C70 !
@earnieboy542 жыл бұрын
Got the pocket 6K and haven’t looked back. Such a fun and great camera. Couple of misconceptions though is that you don’t have to rig this thing to death. Out of the box with a memory card, it works. Swapping batteries doesn’t mean it doesn’t work out the box. Buy a Red. That’s an example of not being ready out of the box. I also understood that as a cinema camera it was going to be for me to use with my v mount batteries and modular to my liking. Got two more of those baddies because they work and do exactly what I want. C70 is great and simply amazing but didn’t give a justification for the price tag. I don’t need autofocus, ibis, internal NDs and all those things. I kinda wanted a manual vs automatic for control if that makes sense. Haha!
@JordanPulmano2 жыл бұрын
It is a great camera! Actually shooting on it right now for a shoot I’m on and loving it. The C70 just met the needs for a higher percentage of shoots I am currently doing. Funny enough, I use manual focus on my C70 more than auto because I run a lot of cine glass on it haha
@The11thPower2 жыл бұрын
I may go ahead and grab the c70. I have the original 6k but haven’t used it much since getting the Z cam F6. The quality seems pretty similar and the main differences seem to be AF with canon. I’m looking for a simple setup I can use when I don’t want to rig my camera so I’ve been on either the 6k pro or the c70. Run and gun, interviews and concert recaps so the c70 seems to be the pick although canon is def charging a premium lol. If I go 6k pro, I’ll just add the battery adapter that gives you 3 batteries to solve the performance issues.
@JordanPulmano2 жыл бұрын
I can confidently tell you after a year of owning the C70, I would never go back to blackmagic. The C70 has been the most well rounded camera that I have owned!
@The11thPower2 жыл бұрын
@@JordanPulmano sheesh lol, black magic still has the value aspect on lock but im definitely getting this with a purpose. I came from the 5d3 error and also on a EOS R for photography so the c70 it is.
@dpjohnjones4322 жыл бұрын
I just bought a bmpcc 6k pro and I really thought I was ready but man it has been a mixed bag. No matter how I rig this camera it always feels incomplete or lacking in some way. The image quality is AMAZING but getting used to the shifting dynamic range with ISO is kinda ruff with some of the things I shoot. I’m used to cameras like canon and Sony that just work out of the box so this has really been hard to get used to. Also, the IR pollution even with the new internal ND’s is FAR from acceptable. It still requires IR reduction and that’s just one more thing to have to buy for this camera because not all IR filters are created equal so you can’t skimp in this department. You have to buy the good stuff. I’ve seen some people buy cheaper IR filters and test them on the bp6k pro but they only work in limited scenarios and have horrible flaring/contrast reduction in almost any scenario except cloudy days. I bought the bp6k pro because I didn’t want to have to use a matte box all the time for IR reduction and ND. If I still require multiple filters or a matte box then I mind as well buy the bp6k and not the pro. Sometimes I feel like there is far too much to think about with the bp6k pro. It’s really just a sensor in a box lol. And for some people that’s cool. Could I get used to these short comings? Yes I think so. But If I do get out of this camera I’m going for the c70.
@JordanPulmano2 жыл бұрын
You totally nailed it. They give us an incredible image, but it doesn't come without some added work to make it easy! I gotta say, 6 months later I am still loving the C70 and am happy with my decision.
@lucaloschi89583 жыл бұрын
C70 has more conveninece and is more refined (apart for that crappy small fragile single display), but as image quality BM to me wins hands down. I guess it's possible to work on the 10bit files of the Canon to make them more appealing, but on the Bmppc is so much easier to have great, rich skin tones. Pity for the BM the short battery life without rigging it and the exaggerated rolling shutter and crop at 120p. For the rest, as a cost effective Cinema camera, is hard to beat.
@lucaloschi89583 жыл бұрын
Plus that bright, huge display... Just one question, out of the box did you noticed any of the screen tint issues with the BM?
@JordanPulmano3 жыл бұрын
I didn’t notice any weird tint on this one, but I did notice a little tint on the NDs which I think may be a firmware update fix? But definitely not as consistent looking as the NDs on the C70
@yosoyalquan3 жыл бұрын
Blackmagic is where it’s at tbh! For the price you can’t beat that
@dna82693 жыл бұрын
They are insane cameras for the price point. Only issue for me is the lowlight isn't great and gets noisy quickly.
@yosoyalquan3 жыл бұрын
@@dna8269 but in reality no cinema camera is really meant for lowlight. They’re meant to be on well lite sets
@manchumuq3 жыл бұрын
@@dna8269 For a standard cinema camera, a native ISO 3200 is higher than enough.
@DomTheDP3 жыл бұрын
Great choice. Love our C70! Great video Jordan. I know it’s a ton of work but you make it look easy.
@JordanPulmano3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Dom!! This project was definitely a doozy but super fun
@electronights35893 жыл бұрын
Such high quality content for such little subs. Good video bro this will definitely help in later purchases of these cameras.
@JordanPulmano3 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate that!!! Thank you so much man
@itscinemasam2 жыл бұрын
I’m sorry I just can’t get enough of my 6K Pro’s Image quality man.
@PIPERBOYWILLIAMS2 жыл бұрын
No matter what I do my quality looks crap
@LALoveCreative3 жыл бұрын
Great video bro! I was just about to do a camera comparison for both of these cameras on my channel. But you did such a good job I don't think I need to haha
@JordanPulmano3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! I’d love to see your take on it! Everyone has different needs for their cameras so I think your take would be just as valuable for someone.
@Burritosarebetterthantacos Жыл бұрын
Ive got Canon and the bmpcc6k. Hands down the bmp is better to just grab and go. Mines in a pelican case and within 5 minutes I have a full setup with about 15 hrs of battery life. Granted Im comparing that to an r series camera. Also, braw is the absolute JAM.
@Ah_Yote2 жыл бұрын
As to which camera you should get really depends on what you’re using it for, if it’s just for something like KZbin videos then you really should be getting anywhere near a Cinematic camera no matter how affordable it is,
@Totland.pictures3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review! I did rent the C70 before buying since I couldn't find a place that would allow returns. I already had RF lenses so I didn't consider the Black Magic. Thanks!
@JordanPulmano3 жыл бұрын
I really want to try RF glass on the C70. I bet it is incredible!
@Totland.pictures3 жыл бұрын
@@JordanPulmano yes, they’re really nice but as far as I know you’re stuck with the crop. I’m looking forward to the 14-35 f4.
@PIPERBOYWILLIAMS2 жыл бұрын
Canon paid you to do a hit job on the black magic ?👀
@JordanPulmano2 жыл бұрын
Shh play cool don’t let anyone know
@cfazio3 жыл бұрын
I don’t know much about the c70 but if it’s not recording in raw then there might be some de-noise processing in camera. Raw files intrinsically have more noise. What fluid head are you using?
@JordanPulmano3 жыл бұрын
Great point! I didn’t take that into consideration. I’m using a Manfrotto 504HD.
@yuan-jia3 жыл бұрын
C70 processes the image in-camera with a dual ADC to maximize SNR, meanwhile the BM only records the RAW image (somewhat as BRAW is special form of RAW). So the C70 will always show less noise because of the dedicated processing, while the noise in the final output from braw post-processing is up to the user (the noise reduction tool in DaVinci works wonders with braw files). So really it’s two different worlds on that level… :)
@mikethecreative3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video bro. The quality of your shots as well as the color grading are amazing. I enjoyed the comparison.
@JordanPulmano3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Michael!! I appreciate you checking out the video 🙌
@SeasonAscent3 жыл бұрын
Great review of both cameras mate! We just picked up a C70 at work and I'm pretty excited to use it more.
@JordanPulmano3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!! It’s such a fun camera to shoot on
@RogerBenito3 жыл бұрын
Renting equipment is one of the best options, great video and a very good comparison of these two incredible cameras, a question is the text animation you use during the video bought on any website? If so, could you tell me where, greetings from Spain!
@JordanPulmano3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Roger! I got it from Envato Elements.
@GriffinConway3 жыл бұрын
Nice comparison. They are both great cameras. Thanks for sharing your thoughts
@JordanPulmano3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Griffin! I appreciate you watching it.
@MartinBleazard2 жыл бұрын
The one thing I think I’d miss is the Blackmagic big bright screen, especially straight on a gimbal. A great screen is what I include in out of the box usability and its something a lot of cameras are missing 😂
@Lensrentals3 жыл бұрын
Great comparison!
@RobertoRaymon Жыл бұрын
So Canon C70 with the purchase of the speed booster or black magic with the purchase of the battery grip?
@givebackdocumentaryproduct59813 жыл бұрын
Quality video bro .Especially the sample footage .
@JordanPulmano3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much man!!
@dna82692 жыл бұрын
How are you liking the C70 5 months later? Any regrets or complaints?
@JordanPulmano2 жыл бұрын
Currently sitting with it as I just wrapped a documentary I shot on it and I still absolutely love it! No regrets. It has some quirks as does every camera, but I am very happy with my decision!
@colinthomas25252 жыл бұрын
Great video and amazing channel. I’m sceptical on the c70 14/16 stops of dynamic range. Real world test show it’s only 13. I only believe Arri then blackmagic is a close second everyone else Red included is lying about DR. If I had the budget I’d buy a c70 but since I don’t it looks like I’ll go with blackmagic.
@kiethwalker42373 жыл бұрын
QUALITY content right here!
@JordanPulmano3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Keith!!!
@chronocross853 жыл бұрын
only thing I dont like about the C70 is the flippy screen. It feels cheap and feels like its going to break easily
@JordanPulmano3 жыл бұрын
That’s fair! It is a little bendy feeling
@doug_EX2 жыл бұрын
It not only look like it would break easily, it does break easily. The LCD hinge is worst than junk. Besides that, the C70 is amazing!
@appletech2.0843 жыл бұрын
Amazing video as always bro!🔝
@JordanPulmano3 жыл бұрын
Dude I appreciate you watching it!!!
@gravitymediapro2 жыл бұрын
New sub! Very much liked your content.
@JordanPulmano2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!!!
@whoiam3410 Жыл бұрын
Hey nice speakers?? Which is it?
@MrOmniscience3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I'm trying to decide between the Sony FX6 and the C70.
@JordanPulmano3 жыл бұрын
Ohhh tough choice!
@jokubasvaicius3 жыл бұрын
Great and informative video. Thanks 👍🏼
@JordanPulmano3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching it! I’m glad you found it helpful.
@wepopcreative Жыл бұрын
Haha should have just did a shorter video saying, “I prefer Canon for everything” 🤣
@JordanPulmano Жыл бұрын
Sadly the KZbin algorithm does not like that
@jonnynoakes90702 жыл бұрын
To anyone wondering: Pocket 6K Amazing image and codec with braw Amazing price Easy to use Awesome screen But: Weird shape for gimbal use and in general Needs rigging Needs external power Dynamic range ok but not great C70: Epic dynamic range More video focused body Better shape (fits straight on my ronin rsc2!) Speedbooster gives it almost full frame Battery life is awesome Codec great (not raw but the image is exceptional) Internal NDs Easy to run decent audio from it Digital Image stabilisation But: Screen is flimsy and not amazing but fine Erm….. 😂😂
@cameranerdsmedia3 жыл бұрын
✊😂 waiting for you to give into the auto focus.
@JordanPulmano3 жыл бұрын
This video was posted 2 months ago… I’m ashamed to say I have since given into it…😂
@cameranerdsmedia3 жыл бұрын
@@JordanPulmano 🤣🤣 welcome, cinema cameras with auto focus is a great world to live in 🙌
@adilakreyi72253 жыл бұрын
C70 Best camera
@davidschwan3 жыл бұрын
Great Video !
@JordanPulmano3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for watching! I'm glad you enjoyed it.
@joshdiditt2 жыл бұрын
Is the Pelican 1510 case bigger than that Lens Rentals case at 4:40?
@JordanPulmano2 жыл бұрын
Good question. They are shaped very different so it’s tough to say for sure. I’d say the 1510 is still a little bigger
@ahman75463 жыл бұрын
3:33 AM but hey 🤷🏻♂️
@JordanPulmano3 жыл бұрын
Aye thanks for staying up and watching!!!
@ailtvonline31213 жыл бұрын
Before you nock down BMPCC please have a look at what Vincent Laforet did with BMPCC 4K or have a look at a Fisherman’s Dairy which is streaming on Netflix shot on BMPCC 4K.
@JordanPulmano3 жыл бұрын
I don’t think any part of this video is knocking on the BMP haha. I have owned the 4k for a while and it’s one of my favorite cameras!!
@ailtvonline31213 жыл бұрын
You seem a very clever guy but you have missed the point . I would agree with you more if you would talk more about the difference between a cinema camera and a video camera.
@dna82693 жыл бұрын
@@ailtvonline3121 Dude what are you saying? lol. His review was great and made a lot of sense. He didn't knock the BM cameras at all and why would he explain video vs cinema? Makes zero sense
@stevendarling49733 жыл бұрын
That poor skateboard man
@JordanPulmano3 жыл бұрын
Penny Board deserved better
@afexalpha61742 жыл бұрын
The black magic design (body) is horrible I don’t like it at all.
@najeefilms3 жыл бұрын
Crazy how people count out the Z Cam that's y'all lost 😂
@JordanPulmano3 жыл бұрын
Z cam is great, but didn’t consider it for the same reason as the Komodo. I have a specific need for this camera and something modular like those doesn’t really work for me!
@shzammpatapon98653 жыл бұрын
the amount of job you're getting with z cam will be less. like it or not, we live in reality, not in fantasy. the time I rent a komodo i get three more jobs through word of mouth edit: keyword here is "RENT", I don't necessarily think that it's a good value but if you work in industry town for your particular country, you will understand
@dna82693 жыл бұрын
@@shzammpatapon9865 That won't be the case for 99% of shooters. I've never had any client ask about my camera brand, even the highest paying ones.