C70 VS FX3 | Dynamic Range, Slow Motion, Test Footage

[@cammackey]

They both look great. Canons image looks more robust in my opinion. I’ve graded a lot of C70 footage and pushed it pretty hard and it held up pretty nice. But specially on that backlit scene of Jake, you can see how much more saturation the skin tones have overall. For me, that’s one of the most important things. Also, I don’t get how the FX3 can be called a cinema camera if it doesn’t even have the option to use shutter angle.. I’m sure they could fix that with firmware though. But kinda crazy

[@GriffinConway]

Ya totally hear that. I kept accidentally calling it the a7s iii in the review and had to refilm a few parts lol. I personally preferred the skin tones on the c70. They looked like they had more life to them.

[@truce11]

Can we get a collab video with cammackey?

[@contentm3893]

And of course this was before you jumped to the FX3.

[@YesItsKent]

I’d love to see a up to date comparison between C70 and FX6 more from a usability standpoint.

[@d.edwardsfreelanceeditorvi4212]

Agreed. Not sure why most comparsions are with the FX3 instead of the FX6.

[@adhi_atma]

@@d.edwardsfreelanceeditorvi4212 maybe cause fx6 is so hard to get right now & very limited people have the fx6 to compare with. Also armando only have fx3 right now.

[@GriffinConway]

I actually already shot a comparison with the c70 and FX6 😄 coming soon

[@vladimirtalijan]

@@d.edwardsfreelanceeditorvi4212 There is no comparison. FX6 lacks NDs, scratch audio without the handle, it doesn't have native RF and EF mounts, and it has typical Sony colors, which is not a good thing.

[@d.edwardsfreelanceeditorvi4212]

@@vladimirtalijan well the fx6 does have NDs. As a matte a fact it has variable NDs that change automatically. and why would it have native EF or RF mounts? That's canon's system. Sony makes their own glass

[@FilmSpook]

Thanks, Griffin!! Excellent tests and comparison!! You and Armando are Awesome, my brothers!! 👍🏾👍🏾

[@GriffinConway]

Thank you! I appreciate the kind words!

[@loudandclearmedia]

I like the Canon image just a slight bit more, as to my eyes it's more organic. Having said that, I'm deep in the Sony system and think that's the way to go for commercial work. Amongst the latest couple generations of Sony mirrorless bodies (I own A1, A7Siii, A7R4, A7R3, and A73) they all have full frame sensors, same mount, same batteries, and the bodies themselves of each generation are nearly identically proportioned. That makes life 1000% easier than trying to adapt lenses, multiple type batteries and chargers, different sized bodies with different support requirements etc. For hobbyists things like this don't matter, but for my team and I shooting many location jobs per week its a game changer.

[@carolinas5132]

well said, very true.

[@reckerproduction9468]

Deep reality

[@CVX1000]

Ready for that C70 vs FX6 video🤩

[@Peterwfowler]

I love how unbiased you are. Always great work bro

[@GriffinConway]

Thank you! That's what I try to go for. Appreciate you watching!

[@avdcam]

One really important thing about catalyst browse post stabilization is your shutter speed will impact image quality a lot. Or put another way, 180 shutter is probably too slow and you need at least a 90 degree shutter or fast. Otherwise the catalyst browse stabilization will show those smearing frames where the image was blurred by movement, instead of a sharp image. It’s a very useful data point but it has limitations.

[@GriffinConway]

Interesting...I have never actually tried it myself but thought Armando's example was really solid

[@chrismacarthur184]

I bought a C70 today based on your great videos. Keep it up!

[@GriffinConway]

Thanks Chris! Hope you love it!

[@CarloTimothy]

Great comparison. Would be interested to know why the Sony FX6 wasn't compared to the C70 - in my mind, that would seem to be a more appropriate comparison, especially since they're priced closely to one another. But you made some really great points here. Bottom line: it's a great time to buy a camera at any price point.

[@dna8269]

I think he has a video coming with Julien Jarry about the FX6 vs C70. There was pics on IG

[@GriffinConway]

Check :30 for a preview of a video that might be coming to the channel soon 😄 Thanks for watching!

[@CarloTimothy]

@@dna8269 ah yes Julien Jarry, aka the Leica R Hoarder. I kid I kid. looking forward to that!!

[@GabeStrong]

I too wanted to see the C70 compared to the FX6 as that seems to be the more ‘fair’ comparison, price wise and feature wise. I personally own the FX6 and think it’s great but confess to taking a sideways look at the c70 and wondering about it as it also seems very comparable to the FX6.

[@OfTwoLands]

Awesome comparison mate !! I still prefer the image from the C70 I think but solid performance from the FX3 especially for the price and size. I would definitely pick the C70 for documentary / commercial work and the FX for personal and travel.

[@TheLostKuma]

Oh man, haven't watched this yet because i'm at work but i totally agree w/ what you said. the small size/weight of hte fx3 is just so nice for personal/travel, even though i'd easily opt for the c70 for everything else.

[@GriffinConway]

Thanks for watching Flo! And congrats on the new Baby! Yes I totally agree. I think the FX3 would be amazing for an all in one small travel camera for cinematic video and good stills, and for production + documentary work I would definitely prefer the C70 for build in ND's and general size

[@djencode]

I like the c70 in a lot of situations but dark skin is not one of them. I really dig that high contrast look on the boxer. That and the fx3 autofocus isn't racist ahaha

[@eware3000]

How about FX3 for travel/personal/sports and BM6k Pro for doc/client work? That what I'm contemplating.

[@djencode]

@@eware3000 You could very easily use the FX3 for all of that. Converting from 23.976 to 24 is not a big deal at all. Most client work would be presenting in UHD so the lack of DCI wouldn't really matter, plus with the Ninja V you can crop your 4.2k raw to 4k DCI easily. It would also give you all of the exposure tools you would need. And autofocus that works on black faces, unlike the C70 lol

[@alexamickey]

Thanks for this video Griffin! I'm a sony a7s3 shooter who recently got an Alexa Mini. But been really struggling to get my skintones to match Alexa. I've been told that C70 is a great b-cam for matching Arri...and just from this video, I can already see that it would be easier to match. These canon skin tones look much nicer/more natural to my eyes. Very helpful!

[@noahyv]

Yeah I own a c70 and a7s3 which is essentially the same as an fx3 and I never use the a7s3 because the c70 does everything better. Dynamic range and processing are one of the biggest differences. Sony forces you to use heavy NR that hides the much higher noise levels but makes shadows very mushy. That also means sensitivity is hugely different. Fx6 or prores raw lets you turn off NR but then you're left with much much more noise than the c70. With the Sony you signficantly sacrifice DR as you go beyond iso640, whereas the c70 is several stops better in the shadows so you can push it a stop no problem, plus a speedbooster gives you another stop of sensitivity so you can essentially shoot at 3200ei on the c70 and still get way more DR than the a7s3 has a iso640. Sony has better AF but only with native lenses. You can get good AF with newer sigma EF lenses with their adapter but pretty much all other EF lenses are not supported in video mode. Whereas the c70 has pretty good AF even on random old EF lenses. EF lenses are key because you can own them and put them on everything worth shooting on from red to arri to Canon and Sony to some degree.

[@GriffinConway]

I just wish the c70 was a decent still camera so I could use it for hybrid jobs and travel haha. But ya for pro video work I for sure prefer the c70

[@PageLynch]

Great stuff as always, Griffin! After months of debating between the FX3 and C70 for a B cam, I went with the C70. What I didn't expect was how much I love the thing. It was supposed to be a B cam to my rigged out Pocket 6K (which is what I went with after owning a RED Scarlet-X for seven years). Instead, I find myself picking it up more often than the Pocket 6K. Such a clean image, incredible DR, 4K 120p, built-in NDs, and so on... It's just a terrific little camera. I've been keeping a PolarPro CP on the front of it most of the time, and it's able to do everything I want it to do!

[@GriffinConway]

Yes! I have a pocket 6k pro and it’s hard to use after being used to the c70

[@bashmedia]

This is the video I was looking for 2 days ago ، thanks to Armando and Griffin Conway

[@GriffinConway]

Thanks for watching!

[@TrainwithPJ]

What a legend! Love this

[@GriffinConway]

Thanks for helping us out in this one PJ! You're a beast!

[@BryanBenoitPhoto]

I watched Armando’s video as well. You two have a very different approach to reviews. You go out of your way to be as balanced as possible while Armando does nothing to hide his love for the FX. I have never used the Sony so have no real opinion. I do wish the C70 had the autofocus of the FX (from all the reviews I have seen) but fir many reasons I am team Canon and my goal is to learn how to use the camera I have in the best way possible. As you (and Armando) said… all modern cameras these days will produce great images once you know what you are doing. Thanks to both of you for these videos… while I found Armando’s video a bit biased it was still fact based(just a bit selective on the facts he emphasized ) and very useful. Armando is you read this… love you too and always look forward to your videos too 🤗

[@GriffinConway]

I think Armando was being genuine, as in talking to him I know he really is pumped about the FX3 (for good reason). Have you had the chance to use the new C70 firmware yet? I was actually really surprised at how much better and more useable the AF was. Thanks for watching Bryan!

[@BryanBenoitPhoto]

@@GriffinConway I installed the new firmware but didn’t test anything since. One thing that is super important. Save your custom settings… the update process wipes them all out.

[@GriffinConway]

@@BryanBenoitPhoto I knew it would wipe them, but I wasn't sure based on the firmware literature if it would mess something up if I loaded my old settings, so I just wrote them down and manually changed them after.

[@BryanBenoitPhoto]

@@GriffinConway I didn’t test the reloading part because I let it wipe my settings on purpose. Mine where a literal mesh from so much advice on KZbin that I wasn’t sure what exactly I was doing. I entered all from scratch as a way to relearn camera and see what really works for me.

[@GriffinConway]

Nice! That’s a good way to do it too. I reloaded all mine manually as well

[@juzzonmorris]

Great in-depth video. You gave me a lot to think about.🤔💭

[@ABarrera]

Loved it! Keep up the great content man

[@GriffinConway]

Thanks so much for watching Alex!

[@ZBSstudioBE]

You're doing great videos for creators! good luck with the channel!

[@GriffinConway]

Thank you!

[@_braga]

great video. watched three and like what u are doing...did u make one with exposing using waveforms and all the tool u have on c70?

[@daviderin]

Thanks, Griffin! I own a C70 and absolutely LOVE this camera. I'm in the same boat with the investment in Canon glass so I'm with Canon until something really compelling moves me. I have seen some things about it being able to take a picture by assigning a custom button. I haven't fiddled with that yet. I don't have high hopes but I'd be curious what kind of still it's able to take. Thanks for the great content.

[@daviderin]

Also I just bought your LUTs. Great work on these. They look fantastic.

[@ruhicenetvideos]

Great information

[@SretloW]

Wow the Canon C70 looks really great!! Maybe the CanonR5C will be a great hybride camera?

[@GriffinConway]

Let's hope so! I would love that

[@OhanaFilms]

We can’t live without built-in ND. I just wish Canon would have put the C70 specs into a C100 body. For documentary situations where we have very little control the C100 was nearly flawless in terms of button layout.

[@artwerkmedia8616]

Sure the c70 isn’t perfect but at the end of the day, for me, it’s image quality. Look at that smooth mid tone contrast. Beautiful, that sensor truly punches above its weight. Period.

[@GriffinConway]

I love the c70 image for sure! Looks so good and it's easy to work with!

[@artwerkmedia8616]

@@GriffinConway I’m trying not to get one lol. I have a c200 that has good things still going for it but that c70 sensor is calling me… and I like the smaller size/form factor.

[@GriffinConway]

@@artwerkmedia8616 ya I upgraded my c200 and I like it a lot more. Much easier files to deal with

[@KamalJones]

another great video, doesn't the price of FX3 place it within the same world as the R5? The R5 in 4K HQ with the 45MP sensor, 120fps seems on paper to be the answer to the FX3 but I guess a DR test would be needed for final conclusion. Hey that comparison might be idea for next video 😉 ... Just don't mention long recordings lol!

[@GriffinConway]

Hey Kamal! Thanks for watching bro. Yes I agree the R5 probably makes a more apples to apples comparison, but youtube seems to love unfair comparisons so here we are 😂 my main gripe with R5 is the h.265 codec and the 30 minute record limit. Maybe if I get an M1 mac that would fix one of those problems for me!

[@KamalJones]

​@@GriffinConway 100% in effort to always Sku towards my investment "Canon" I'll bring up, well if were both using Atomos Ninja V the codec and record time limit is no longer a factor lol! Can't wait to check out next video

[@ItzSi]

Maybe the R7C will be that FX30 for canon?

[@cwinasia]

In the same place with lenses. Thanks for the test Griffin!

[@GriffinConway]

Thanks for watching Chris!

[@christophermcguinness]

Nice work Griffin. I'm going to have to try bringing some LUTs into camera now! ;-) I always just bring them into the monitors.

[@Nath.Heimberg]

Great as always! Guess i‘m a Canon fanboy so i always hope they hold up well but i thought you did a great job comparing them unbiased.

[@GriffinConway]

Haha same! I always try to show even when it falls a little short too. Thanks for watching as always bro!

[@fabipuello]

Simple yet so helpful! Thanks man!

[@GriffinConway]

Thanks for watching Fabian!

[@jimmystewartuk]

On another note, wouldn’t the R5 be that hybrid camera if you are working for a client who would ask for a quick photo, if it doesn’t overheat of course. I see that you have/had a R5. Would be interesting to see your take on comparing the R5 to C70 😃

[@town3]

Why compare the C70 with the FX3? It makes more senses to compare the C70 with the FX6. Price range, features and workflow would seem to be a better compare. Just me

[@joshdiditt]

Get the Panasonic S5 Griffin. 1. Shutter Angle 2. Anamorphic support built in 3. Waveform and Vectorscope and Luminance Spot meter 4. Dual SD Cards 5. Full frame 10 bit 4.2.2 6. Timelapse feature that makes the video in camera 7. 5.9k Pro Res Raw to Ninja and 5.9k BRAW external to Blackmagic camera 8. Great IBIS 9. Flip out screen 10. Now only $1700. The only two things I dislike is the APSC crop in 4k 60 and the no so good autofocus. Other than that, it's perfect.

[@GriffinConway]

I shoot almost exclusively on canon and it makes it easier to match as well as easier to train my team on a set of cameras. Switching systems is a big process so I’m not really interested in it at this time since our current cameras are serving our needs just fine

[@nathandd8541]

Thanks Griffin Great Video You are really a tall man !!

[@GriffinConway]

Lol! Yes I am!

[@SashaJordanAppler]

Great vid thanks Griffin

[@GriffinConway]

Thanks for watching Sasha!

[@thomas.kovacik]

loved it! both great cameras!

[@GriffinConway]

Same! Thanks for watching Thomas! We need to shoot together again soon

[@thomas.kovacik]

@@GriffinConway course! heck yeah let's make it happen

[@jmbernicle]

Great video brotha!

[@GriffinConway]

Thanks so much bro!

[@steveritchie4926]

Did you compare EF L lenses versus RF / STM lenses? To gain the full benefit of the STM autofocus features (like adjustable focus shift speed) you can only use STM lenses. Unfortunately, this limits you to mostly RF lenses. There's a few lenses that are STM and can be used with the speed booster though, like the 50mm F/1.8 STM EF.

[@jacksonfilm]

Interesting. Am currently more invested in the Sony system these days, but those Canon colours are looking nice.

[@GriffinConway]

They are both solid. Obviously I favor the canon because I have tons of canon gear but check out Julien Jarry he has some luts he uses that are amazing. I can’t remember the name off the top off my head

[@chrisjohnsonfilms]

@@GriffinConwayphantom Luts

[@AnishRajah]

Hey Griffin! Been watching your videos for a while now and absolutely love them! I am also located in California in Sacramento, so if you ever wanted to collab let me know! Keep up the awesome vids!

[@nick_g]

great comparison vid

[@nyambe]

Amazing you can even compare the FX3 with top cinema cameras

[@GriffinConway]

True! It's a great camera

[@svetoslavhristov3653]

Comon man, even seeing the title, I knew where this video is going for. You are Canon shooter 😁

[@GriffinConway]

Lol did you watch the video? I pointed out areas where the c70 wasn't as good as the FX3 in addition to showing the strengths. No one pays me to say any of this stuff so I don't care what camera people choose

[@jonathanpgentry]

@@GriffinConway weird little Canon review.

[@richardbeasley9084]

Griffin seems to be the most balanced reviewer I have come across. If something isn't up to par he throws it out there. He doesn't take it personally.

[@jonathon7760]

The fx3 has wayyyy more customization buttons that you have to utilize. When you mentioned the FPS and shutter speed for instance, it’s all preprogrammed so you flip a switch and have a whole new look

[@jasonnowwhat5041]

And what switch is that? There’s no mode dial.

[@jonathon7760]

@@jasonnowwhat5041 I misspoke.. I was thinking of a7siii.

[@BrisbaneChannel]

Hi, great balanced video. I'm curious, though, why you would burn in a LUT rather than filming in log and adding the LUT in post? Are there certain situations where recording with a LUT would be preferable?

[@GriffinConway]

Thank you! 95% of the time I shoot log and add the lut in post. Sometimes though I need to shoot something and hand it directly to a client for same day delivery and it can speed things up.

[@BrisbaneChannel]

@@GriffinConway Makes sense. Thanks.

[@karanshetty2530]

You hit the key points as always and kept it concise, loved it . The first scene with the guy in the over exposure test, which one of the two cameras did you find got the skin tones correctly? same for the red on boxers shorts. I hate having to mess around with skin tones in post trying to get them to my taste especially on low budget quick turnaround projects. I like those LUTS :) . Even though i do many brand content for youtube and social media, AF has never been a priority. Having said that there are always issues when you try to adapt lenses to another system. There have been situations where the aperture locks up etc. I also happened to watch the video on Armando's channel form his perspective. Generally i like the stuff he puts out, but for some reason he seemed super aggressive and i felt like he was really trying to sell the FX3 and more importantly trying to justify his purchase :D. Don't mean to knock the guy but its just something i felt. Looking forward to more awesome content from you.

[@GriffinConway]

Thanks for watching Karan! I would say the colors of the image both looked close, with the skin tones looking a little more to my liking with the c70 and the red being slightly more accurate on the FX3. That said, I would recommend checking out the phantom luts if you shoot with Sony as they are much better. And if you shoot with Canon, well....I know a guy who makes luts for that camera 😉 lol

[@SamLucas26]

This DGO sensor in the c70 and c300 is super interesting. You touched on it but I’ve found on the c300 that it exposes similar to how we used to expose when we first started shooting on our DSLR’s back in the day. Underexpose slightly and really try and protect those highlights because there’s way more room in the shadows to recover. It’s taken me a while to get used to since I’ve gotten so used to slightly over exposing over the last couple years shooting log footage with cinema cameras

[@SamLucas26]

Great video as always, bro!!!

[@GriffinConway]

Dude same! It's taken me a bit to "re-learn" exposure with this one. Thanks for watching as always bro!

[@SamLucas26]

@@GriffinConway 💯, once I learned how to expose it though, dang 👌🏼. As long as those highlights aren’t gone, the amount you can pull out of the shadows is incredible. Totally different world to the c200 lol

[@GriffinConway]

@@SamLucas26 Exactly!!

[@JoshSmith-ct3fi]

So protecting highlights means underexposed? So on c70 you underexpose 1 stop or 2 stops ?

[@andersistbesser]

I tried to convince myself the c70 picture looks better as it is much cheaper than the fx6 where i live but seeing this video the fx3 video looks quite a bit better than the soft canon.

[@TheLostKuma]

Great discussion and points about both cameras. Own neither but have used the c70 a few times. Really hope canon makes something similar to the fx3 but w/out the missing exposure tools + internal nd and shutter angle. I don't understand how anyone can exclude shutter angle anymore, such a simple software update.

[@GriffinConway]

I agree. Really hope we get a canon version of the fx3!

[@peterlai1985]

I am kinda in the same boat as well. Don’t get me wrong I love my C70s and they are very good for TV production. But the Sony’s AF has always been something incredibly enticing for me. But because my company owns 20+ Canon lenses already at the end of the day, the C70 face priority and face only AF modes serves my purpose well enough so far + the built-in NDs. Would I want better? Yes. Has it failed me so far? No. So I’m just gonna keep my fingers crossed for an R5C with built in ND filters. Not holding my breath though.

[@GriffinConway]

Ya I would love a r5c that would pretty much be the camera I was hoping for in the video. I think the c70 autofocus is actually quite a bit more useable now with the recent firmware update. Have you tried it out yet?

[@powerzoom7750]

Nice comparision, luts can be load in a ninja, so you dont need the feature on Camera, ninja have so many features that i love....if you use a external recorders, use the features of thuis thing...that was a side note of me...but nice video man

[@apvisuals8214]

hey griffin brought your luts today to install on my C70. When I got to the last step to overwrite the previous CP it's say "process termination error" was wondering if you know a quick fix?

[@SheldonCharron]

Would have liked to have seen this with the FX6. We bought a C70 and R5, and am now thinking we should have bought the FX6 or FX9 as A cam and FX3 as second cam. Might take the hit and sell the Canons and Canon lenses and go Sony. Mostly because of the R5 and it's frustrating lack of video features like shutter angle, the LCD going black and menu being forced out to the atomos when using one, the inability to use an audio interface and XLRs, even monitor audio properly at all, etc.

[@GriffinConway]

Check :30 for a little preview of test that will be coming to the channel 😄 Ya I know what you mean. The R5 is amazing for photos but it's not great for an everyday workhorse camera in a small form factor. Hopefully we get something in the future from Canon that will be like a FX3

[@dna8269]

FX9 nukes all of these cameras but it gets iffy if you're comparing FX6 to C70. I'd just stay where you're at and see what happens with the R5C/R3/C90

[@GriffinConway]

Except for price, size and 4K 120p I think the c70 and fx3 are both better options

[@SheldonCharron]

​@@GriffinConway Agreed. Both are better than the R5. Will likely sell the R5 and EF-ND adapter shortly. Our R5 has only shot like four stills and 5 minutes of video so far and has sat ever since. Might sell the RF 15-35mm and Rear ND too since all other lenses are EF and I have the Speedbooster. I bought the R5 for the 8k and the stills, but might get a RP just for stills, maybe a second C70.

[@rayofthelight2351]

Woooo 🎥

[@GriffinConway]

Yewww!

[@La-verdad-aunque-duela]

Hi Griffin thanks so much for this video. DO you have a tut on how to edit like this video in 0.24 sec? Thanks so much!

[@ErisedMediaCo]

Regarding your first exposure test… the FX3 is exposed lower than the C70 so it makes sense its holding highlights better. Also, you’re better off exposing a bit lower with the C70 and recovering shadows than highlights. Thats the whole benefit of the DGO sensor. Less noise, better shadow recovery.

[@GriffinConway]

Yep, that is what I have found as well and mentioned in the video. The cameras were set to the same exposure but the Sony handles exposure slightly different than the canon.

[@Valencia_Media]

The C70 takes pictures!!!

[@TruthReviews]

Great video. Do you think I could colour match a C70 with a a7s iii as a B cam?

[@DaveSy]

Awesome breakdown! What's your experience been like using EF lenses that are not fully compatible with the RF to EF adapter (like 70-200mm f/4 L IS or 24-105mm f/4 L IS)? Wondering if the AF performance is good enough to rely on for static shots with some mild subject movement.

[@GriffinConway]

In my opinion the AF with the Canon branded adapters is basically the same as using native glass. I find it totally usable for interviews and most general situations

[@DaveSy]

@@GriffinConway great to hear! Such a tough call for my needs haha.

[@andrewskater17]

great review

[@GriffinConway]

Thanks Andrew!

[@andrewskater17]

@@GriffinConway no thank you Griffin :)

[@honduzuelatv2436]

Awesome video as always!! Question, I got the c70 like 3 months ago and I’ve been using the regular shutter speed because I’m not familiar with the shutter angle. You said on this video that every time you switch from 24p to 60p the shutter angle will automatically change? Does that include the S&F 120p mode too?

[@GriffinConway]

Yep! Pretty much what I have seen 95% of c70 operators do is just put the shutter on 180 degrees and leave it there. Even for s and f mode

[@jdxcoffee]

dude there is so much information here. I am in oc too. would love to meet up and just pick your brain man!

[@jaymills1720]

Did the same person grade both? Also, what camera would you say for travel, personal family stuff, bringing to bars with friends, and some mini doc stuff if image and color most important

[@GriffinConway]

I'm a canon guy so I usually prefer the c70, but if you need to take still photos the FX3 or R5c might be better. And yes I graded both.

[@jaymills1720]

@@GriffinConway thanks! I have the R6 but not sure if it’s good enough for video compared to a7s 3 or c70 and c70 doesn’t seem like a vacation or run and gun camera when hanging out

[@theoell2049]

On c-70 it like having a black mist,so looks more cinematic

[@contentm3893]

The FX3 has the other base ISO at 12,800.

[@范忙]

Thanks, Griffin! Purchased .However, this LUTs is not imported into C70, and maybe I'm stupid，help me. ：）

[@GriffinConway]

The c70 manual shows how to import luts, just export it from resolve as a 33 grid lut and it will work

[@范忙]

@@GriffinConway thank you

[@f0t0b0y]

9:31 Like the R5 or R3? Lol

[@roelkyveloswork]

Great video again! Q: do your luts bake in and if yes, can i use auto iris (push)? Because it works with canons 709, but not on the log setting. Much appreciated.

[@GriffinConway]

As far as I know yes, you can use auto iris but I will have to test to make sure. And yes my luts can bake in to the footage

[@roelkyveloswork]

@@GriffinConway perfect. I'll get your luts as soon as my c70 arrives. Any recommendations for lightweight monitor and monopod? Have an amazing day! Greets from amsterdam.

[@GriffinConway]

I would check out this monitor: bhpho.to/3yFWEqG As for monopod I don’t have a recommendation because I don’t use them usually

[@roelkyveloswork]

@@GriffinConway The shinobi 7 just arrived, also just bought your lutpack....uploading to the shinobi as we speak. Next sunday my first commercial shoot. Any tips besides exposing like you do? Maybe load Lut into camera and toggle on and off that way? (Since latest update os letting us do that). Anyhowz thanx for all the tips and advise!

[@eladbari]

Where does the C70 lies exactly within Canon's Cinema camera line? It's like a compact C300 or so?

[@GriffinConway]

Ya pretty much like a compact c300 mark iii just without some of the professional features. It’s the same sensor and same processor in more of a prosumer body

[@thedanpalen1]

How is the rolling shutter in the c70 at 24fps with 45 degree shutter angle?

[@FernandoRocha-jx3rv]

Awesome vid! Question, how did you get your GC luts on your c70? I tried installing your luts onto my c70 but it keeps giving me an error message in the edit picture profile section.

[@GriffinConway]

I'll make a video on this exact thing...hopefully later this week.

[@BryanBenoitPhoto]

@@GriffinConway as I understand it they are supposed to be adding the “looks” feature to the C500/C300 in the next firmware (supposed to come out July 30th I think). Maybe wait until then so you can make one video that applies to all cameras?

[@GriffinConway]

@@BryanBenoitPhoto Good idea!

[@canibus329]

I had to put them into da Vinci resolve then re-export it out then it worked for me Kenyatta.

[@RockyRamal]

Hi, Griffin or anyone in comments: I'm needing to match these two cameras specifically. Can you comment on best approach for basic two camera interview? LUTS from get go vs. color card and log and match etc.. willing to sacrifice a bit on look for sake of not having a burdensome post.

[@bruizzr]

What do you mean when you say, "You can still under-expose and then (pull the image back)?"

[@marekmucha2300]

How is the Image coming out of the Atomos? Is it the same quality? Better? Worse?

[@roelkyveloswork]

Hi G, bought your LUTS and they are amazing in post. But when i try to upload to the C70 at look files, they wont and give an error. Any idea why?

[@holdmedear]

please review the fx6 :)

[@stevenkralovec]

What adapter were you using for the canon lenses on the fx3?

[@jimmystewartuk]

I’m currently a Canon filmmaker as well, and I’m sticking with Canon because I’m already in the Eco-system. However I have to say its some what a disappointment as it seems Canon is just relying on loyalty for users to stay on board, and not because it is offering latest great features and built quality… This is one major point to why I haven’t upgraded to the C70, because I feel it could have been better for what is worth.

[@kenjiyamamoto423]

C70 has ton of firmware updates,. Canon is soo good when it comes to firmware updates,. look at now the canon R5,. its really a great camera now with tons of firmware updates,..

[@jimmystewartuk]

@@kenjiyamamoto423 perhaps a new way of marketing then? 😉 Release what makes the camera what is worth via firmware throughput instead of at the beginning…

[@kenjiyamamoto423]

@@jimmystewartuk well look at R5 now,. a 3year old camera destroying the new released Sony rV when it comes to specs,. because of canon firmware updates,.

[@qiyuxuan9437]

@@kenjiyamamoto423 But R5 is not very reliable(freeze randomly), and the micro HDMI port and no clog2 even on R5C is just sad.

[@theblizza]

The c70 CAN take pics even though they are low MP. Still perfect for thumbnails.

[@GriffinConway]

True...but since they aren't raw and even my iphone can shoot raw photos it's hard to consider it "good enough" 😄

[@misterdeity]

What are your thoughts on the R5c?

[@GriffinConway]

I plan on getting one in for some testing. No real thoughts on it yet since I haven’t shot with it yet.

[@vincerives8055]

tell the people at canon to add tracking in slow and fast mode

[@GriffinConway]

I don’t have any special hookups at Canon but I’m with you for sure. The ew tracking is actually a nice improvement over the other modes

[@andersistbesser]

They are both great but i like zhe sony image more

[@RobertoRaymon]

Where can I find replacement top handles for the C70

[@GriffinConway]

I would contact canon directly or look on to aftermarket solutions like the bright tangerine one. I have a video on my c79 rig on my channel I soils suggest checking that out

[@FacesOfLA]

Sony FX3 !!!!

[@GriffinConway]

🙌

[@dinnertime1857]

9:36 how about the R5??

[@GriffinConway]

I tried that one. Not a huge fan of it for video because of the limitations with overheating and 30 min record limit.

[@jasonf.vasquez9774]

Lowkey it should be Fx6 vs C70

[@GriffinConway]

:30 🙃 coming soon

[@jeanlue]

FX3 for the win. Small compact, straight to the point and cheaper than C70. In the end you achieve the same result - unfortunately for C70 Is too big. the ND Filter built in C70 Is a nice touch but pretty much every one has an ND filters in a camera bags these days.

[@GriffinConway]

FX3 is a great option for some and it definitely has its advantages. I think it’s a great option for people. Having to use a variable ND is not a good option for me since I film shots with TVs in them (try filming a screen with a variable be 🤢), but I would love an fx3 for travel and KZbin filmmaking

[@mortenjensen946]

Pro trip: Do not change the Shutter shutter angle ….

[@Ootini4]

The FX3 is literally the a7sIII in a different body. So it's really not a cinema camera.

[@GriffinConway]

I think it's getting less and less defined what exactly draws the line between a cinema camera and non-cinema camera. It is certainly capable of producing some really nice images

[@humbertosotelo96]

skins on sony cameras always look green

[@NG-SPORTZ-ENTERTAINMENT]

C70 can take stills

[@smalldeekgeorge]

Canon cameras are so soft. After 5d mark iv they ditched mjpeg and everything becomes soft. Like worst 4k quality I ewer saw. And everyone is like well they try to ditch that digital look. Like we can't soften the image in post... It is softer than panasonic g7 with sharpness and noise reduction disabled in camera... Something is going on with how codec gets information from sensor....

[@GriffinConway]

In my humble opinion I would disagree. I find the sharpness to be very similar and I find it much easier to sharpen in post then to soften. Once the sharpness is baked in it is hard to get rid of it. Most colorists add sharpening in post as needed, that way it gives you the control. I think that’s why lots of people like shooting raw because there is no sharpening and you have total control we how much you want to add.

[@smalldeekgeorge]

I hate sharpening and noise reduction in camera. I always turn that off. If I put panasonic s5 in 35mm mode crop and c70 side by side c70 4k doesn't just look softer but there is lost in details around hair. Maybe its just my unit....

[@currensheldon5222]

FX9/6/3 are all improvements for Sony, but their color is still pretty awful. Everyone looks just a touch sick. For example, at 2:40.

[@GriffinConway]

I think the colors definitely a little more on the green side, but with a better luts I find the image is actually very good from both

[@dna8269]

yeah thats pretty bad

[@Samskihero]

Yea this video really highlights just how grim Sony Colors are with their base LUT like at 3:41 the C70 Rich Lifelike skin with separation between his lips and then Sony at 3:51 he just looks lifeless, Luts like Leeming or Phantom would have been the fix but why Sony base LUTS are so bad...

[@GriffinConway]

@@Samskihero Phantom luts for sony are amaing. And I prefer my luts over the stock canon ones...but to make it as "fair" as possible I figured I would just use the factory luts

[@Samskihero]

@@GriffinConway I totally agree using stock luts was the best choice!

[@husainfoolath4287]

C70 all day…!

[@GriffinConway]

🎥🎥🎥

[@arretedechialer410]

No

[@crankmosh]

it's also got that silly Sony colors lol

[@StalkerHD]

Caucasian skin tones on Sony cameras are just off.. greenish tinted and yellowie. Always have been, always will be. The difference in dynamic range is not worth it in my opinion.

[@thefilmpoets]

Agreed. Same for dark skin imo. It's like there are more colors in the skin tones of Canon, and Sony just pushes them all to one ballpark hue.

[@dna8269]

Agreed, and I say this as a Sony shooter. Canon just has skin down better.

[@GriffinConway]

I did prefer the skin tones on the Canon as well.

[@GriffinConway]

I agree with that. I found they were more accurate and pleasing with a variety of skin tones.

[@billyj.causeyvideoguy7361]

Its because the gamut is wider. You need a proper gamut conversion on slog otherwise your primaries are not aligned.

[@vladimirtalijan]

"And now with the FX3, you can pull back the exposure, and It does look a bit different in terms of color", aka looks like typical Sony crap colors :) :)

[@GriffinConway]

I didn’t mind the Sony color actually. I wanted to show things exactly as they were, but check out my friend @julienjarrey on Instagram. He has some amazing work with the Sony cameras and phantom luts

[@nick_g]

I would appreciate feedback: I'm trying to figure out the best cinebuild for under $8k. I need 4k and would like 4K 120 capability. I’m finding that glass and accessories are more important than camera body in the long run. So that’s where I want over half of my money to go. I wish I could just start with a tokina cinema vista 25mm T1.5 prime and build from there, but at $6k (5k used) there’s no way to make it happen. Instead I’ll get some very popular photography lens (canon or sony) that I can easily resell in the future ($2k). Regardless, I think Full Frame is here and taking over, so any lens I choose needs an image circle that will work with full frame. Of course, those lenses work with S35 too. It just looks “cropped”. Great 4x5.65 filters in a solid matte box is next on the list because the image results are very good with solid filters and it transfers to future builds regardless of lens ($2k). Next up, it seems like a larger screen is ubiquitous to a good rig and it’s usually attached to at least a top-handle ($1k). At this point we are at around $5K That narrows it to the A7Siii, the R5 and I have to depend on black friday to pull the price under $8K. Thoughts?

[@stevenkralovec]

What adapter were you using for the canon lenses on the fx3?

[@GriffinConway]

I think It was metabones but that would be a better question for Armando