Canon G7X III update: FOCUS FIXED with new firmware?

[@bryanbuff]

In Mode 2, it never focused on the tree/lights behind you, so it wasn’t finding you - it just stayed focused on you. In Mode 1, you could see some pulsing in the background, but the focus changed quicker for sure.

[@DetroitTintStudio]

I've been shooting on this camera, just updated it. Mode 2 (old AF) is almost like using a manual focus. it won't switch to other subjects at all. pretty much just lock it off and keep that distance. Mode 1 (new AF) is actually trying to find subjects. It's definitely improved to a usable state. I can select different focus points while recording and it will get them. Not as fast or accurate as phase detect. Better lighting definitely helps the contrast detect. I'm happier that they actually did something to improve it. fast lens, mic input, flippy screen and great colors. I really like the image on this camera. It's good enough for what i need it for.

[@cameralabs]

Glad the update's working for you!

[@CDines]

Thanks for this update!

[@Guvnarides-WI2020]

Thank you for the helpful and thorough video. I just bought this camera with the 1.3 firmware. I'm anxious to explore the modes as you did. Cheers!

[@JeremyY]

Very thorough testing, Gordon. Thank you for taking such an effort in doing a proper test of this camera.

[@shaeandeli]

We’ve used the original G7X for years and loved it (other than lens noise). We switched to the new RX100 after seeing your original comparison to the G7X III. While the Sony is very capable we miss the low light performance and pop of the picture on the G7X. We’ve had our fingers crossed that the G7X update would be a good one. Based on what I’ve seen in this video I just ordered a new G7X III and will be returning the Sony. Thanks!

[@RhyzOrDie]

Your original (mode 2) never even pulled focus on the lights behind you. The mode 1 did pull focus and is way better. I've upgraded the firmware and its night and day. I'm very happy with it. Mode 2 is for long distance static shots and mode 1 is for swapping between the two. I'll make a video comparing the Sony rx100 VA and the G7x iii after the firmware update.

[@PhotoGearFun]

Thanks so much for the video. In mode 2 the focus didn't shift to the lights in the background at all in the first group of clips. In mode 1 it did shift focus but still isn't great at reacquiring your face. Still not impressed with the AF. especially compared to the RX100vii. Cheers.

[@oliviervanespen]

Just installed the firmware 1.1.0. Mode 1 is really reactive now :) Thanks Canon ! Keep on doing good reviews Gordon :)

[@cameralabs]

Glad it's working out for you!

[@christianvixen5193]

@@cameralabs g5xii same?

[@cameralabs]

@@christianvixen5193 no update for AF on G5X II yet

[@christianvixen5193]

@@cameralabs do you thing g7 iii is better then g5x ii?

[@cameralabs]

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[@cameralabs]

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[@johnmacleod9815]

Hi Gordon, thanks for this update. I've been following your reviews on the MkIII with interest. I so want to own this camera but the concerns raised by various vloggers including yourself caused some concern. The comparison between the two modes seems marginal but at Canon appears to be moving in the right direction, albeit slowly. Keep up the good work. We appreciate it.

[@aaronneal3873]

Amazingly helpful video! Thank you! I'm looking for my first camera for vlogging and also interviews. I love everything about the G7X III but was worried that the firmware update hadn't fixed the AF problem enough. There all sorts of opinions out there about this. One popular vlogger made a video and she said she would tell if the AF was fixed ... and then just gave her opinion about what she had heard that wasn't good and didn't actually test the new update ... lame. And then some others tested it by walking around but never moving the camera off of their face to see how it focused when you moved it and then how quickly it reacquired the focus on their face. This video finally gave me what I needed see. I am so excited to buy this camera. I'm getting it with the cool looking silver medal on black style. Thank you so much, I really appreciate this excellent video! Cheers! :-)

[@BAdventures]

It seems both modes are slower to focus in 4K. In 1080p the new Mode 1 is much better and faster focus. Maybe the 4K data rate is too much for the compact camera to keep up with. I had similar issues on the G9X MkI. In video mode the focus point box hunts around the screen, looking for a new focal point. Good test shots. At least Canon are doing firmware updates now.

[@dimitrimoonlight]

Thanks for your reviewing. mode2 is just like manual focus, it doesn't change focus. Mode 1 is slightly better AF.

[@cameralabs]

Yes, Mode 2 is quite leisurely! Mode 1 is much more responsive, but may drift a bit as a consequence.

[@godofhope]

Af doesn’t acquire the background at all in your mode 1 and 2 comparison... ridiculous

[@chrisb3976]

It does in mode 1.

[@duyhaiday]

let me ask the focus error has been fixed by canon and is it working fine. I'm still worried so I haven't decided to buy. I come from Vietnam. Hope you can help me!

[@cameralabs]

Watch the video and tell me if you think it is better than before?

[@ibnbattuta34]

After update does it worth to buy this camera ? I will appreciate your answer. Thanks

[@JourneymanActor]

Nice Camera Conspiracies shout out at the end. 😁👍 watch out for the Canon Cripple Hammer.

[@BikeTall]

Id be curious to see you comparing the g7xIII with the gopro hero 8 and sony rx100vII for vlogging. I am trying to decide btwn these three cameras as a light weight travel vlogging rig.

[@markr041]

Useful review. But you need to test for the overheating problem in 4K. It is seriously bad, and not fixed by the clock resetting. You cannot shoot in 4K for more than 20 minutes of short-clip shooting without being stopped. And once it prevents you from continuing, you cannot resume for at least 5 minutes, and after that, after one or two short clips it stops you again. Try this.

[@meetingskylar_pov]

i was struggling between this and the sony a6400, ended up picking the latter, glad I made this decision. The autofocus does seem to have improved for the g7x m3 but the sony a6400 still wins hands down!

[@AMAETV]

It's still disappointing 😫I think most vloggers are a lot more dynamic with the shot and the camera should be able to respond to that. The Mark II was focus was never great, but I just wanted this firmware to make it as good as that. Your examples are great though! Thanks for sharing.

[@robertd5702]

good afternoon Gordon, the firmware this Canon G5X MII and G7X MIII are different ?????? its strange !!!!!! no ????

[@TheThaiLife]

This is a good test and thanks for letting us know the firmware came out today. Your test showed substantial improvement and although still not as good as the Sony, I am finally happier with the camera and that I didn't return it.

[@AlmightyGlobeGangYoungGlobe]

I can’t find it on canon USA

[@beerwolf2836]

This was a preview - firmware comes out later this month

[@TheThaiLife]

AlmightyGlobe I bought mine in Thailand and it’s on the Asia site

[@TheThaiLife]

Beerwolf th.canon/th/support/0400507602/1

[@beerwolf2836]

It just appeared on my local site too

[@komposxoini]

Thanks for this video. Thank you very much again. I think the Canon g7x Mark III is a better solution because it has a microphone input (3.5mm), of course it's a big issue that will put the microphone but lately there are videos that give solutions to it. In addition, I am personally interested in live streming in cases where the 4G network also helps. I think I should choose a smaller resolution in this case but I will necessarily compromise. Great subject for me and the f1.8 for low lighting like dusk. Combining all of the above, I think my choice once I decide to buy a camera will be the Canon g7x Mark III. The Sony RX100 VII is good but for so much more money than the Canon g7x Mark III I think it's unprofitable.

[@DadHut]

A lot of pulsing in the background. It’s just unfortunate that they didn’t put DPAF in this.

[@davex142]

Canon cannot just put DPAF in a camera. It is embedded in the sensor hardware. As in this camera they used a Sony sensor, they got to rely on software AF routines, which they, unlike Sony, hadn’t figured up just yet.

[@KelvinSchwartzGrunlicht]

Stone cold senior tech correspondent VLOGging. 6 minutes through the battlefield. Nailed it. To my surprise this appears to be the one. G5 X II to be considered with Rode/DJI as external recorder. 100/120mm 1.8-2.8 with lens ring and Live ND won me over. 1080 looks great here. Canon Picture Style Editor also looks nice and shiny at first glance. 4k overheating may kill it though, checking that next.

[@cameralabs]

I remember doing laps around that place with everyone looking at me weirdly! Yes, Canon's 1080 video and colours looks great here...

[@ScottJWaldron]

Ahh, yeah, I guess there is no getting around a contrast based AF system for video. Looks like pulsating background point source lights and inconsistent focus in both modes.

[@BorderRambler]

Updated this on my G7X this morning and I am pleasantly surprised on how much quicker it is to focus but it does hunt a bit trying to focus on the background at times. The 4k still overheats after filming after about 10 mins tho atb Dave.

[@cameralabs]

Thanks for the feedback. Is your clock set correctly btw, I've been told that can help.

[@BorderRambler]

Ahh i thinks so but will double check

[@DerrickW30]

@@BorderRambler Even if it is, you might need to re-enter it. Here is Canon's statement: community.usa.canon.com/t5/Announcements/PowerShot-G7-X-Mark-III-Notice-Regarding-Erroneous-Warning/td-p/279102

[@markr041]

@@DerrickW30 It still overheats after about 15 minutes of short-clip shooting in 4K. It is really quite bad, and I have seen very little attention to this major issue, including by this reviewer. Just try shooting 4K and see how quickly the camera stops you from continuing.

[@BorderRambler]

@@cameralabs Clock checked and is set to correct time etc

[@GBO76]

Let me try to sum up : The AF on the Gx7 II was good. Canon tried to improve that Mark II AF on their third G7x but it was a total failure. People (real people, not testers/reviewers) complained, and returned their cameras. To solve that issue, instead of coming back to the Gx7 Mark II AF, Canon added another AF mode in the video menu, so people can now choose between a slightly improved awful AF (Mode 2), and a new (but still old) very bad AF (Mode 1). Looks like there is an hardware difference between Mark II and Mark III, as Canon did not managed to solve the issue while they had 3 months to do so. I'm also very surprised to see that most complains came from real users, those who are paying for their cameras, not from reviewers/testers.

[@KarthiOfficial]

Hi bro what about version 1.2.0 any improvement ?

[@GBO76]

@@KarthiOfficial Unfortunatly, no.

[@KarthiOfficial]

I’m very frustrated using this camera, used one month already I don’t know whether I can return to Canon or not? They will improve or better change any other camera? Your suggestion

[@GBO76]

@@KarthiOfficial IMHO, bring it back. Canon had plenty of time to solve the issue. They did not. The problem is to find another camera. If you want a compact camera with a flipup screen and an external mic output, there is only one option, the Sony RX100VII, which is VERY expensive.

[@KarthiOfficial]

G Bo wasted my 999S$

[@JorgeJuanACTOR]

Do you know if this updated firmware could be installed in the G5X Mark II? I've bought it two days ago and the auto focus is pretty bad and in the cannon support web there are not any updating. It could be possible that Canon will not fix this problem in G5X Mark II because is less sales than the G7X MIII?

[@CarswithBrad]

Looks much, much better! Thank god!

[@ibnbattuta34]

After update does it worth to buy this camera ? I will appreciate your answer

[@Walterconv]

Thanks Gordon. Another great test, like usual.

[@LaloRacer1]

May I ask if there is a AF Lock capability via remapped button like the Mark II featured? That one really saved me from an odd pulsating background in most scenarios. Thanks!

[@nattyrocberry]

I am sure you get told this a lot but You look like “Sting”❤️

[@DenizF]

Thinking about to sell my 70d and get a smaller point to shoot camera... the G7x Mark iii really got me indecisive, should I sell and buy it, or isn’t worth the buy and rather get another one?

[@KhaiLensCaptures]

Hi Gordon! Can you help me? I'm in a middle of deciding which camera to buy. Should I buy this or the EOS M50?

[@machpandac]

Interchangeable lens vs portability. Which ever is more important is what you go with. The image quality will inherently be better on the m50 due to the lens combination.

[@laurentl714]

Where is the same firmware for the G5X Mark II ? Typical from Canon... always crippling 🤮

[@e101sg]

10 videos per week.. Appreciate your passion Gordon :) ///Hi All, Just few updated the firmware update without issue :) // Tested with one video..see some improvement..but Major improvement i am looking for is - Stop the Video recording by pressing the shutter button.. it is annoying.. now have to press button LCD screen :((

[@abunawaf7340]

Could you please uplode video how to upgrade the firmware?

[@abzainazraai]

Hi gordon! Would you mind to test out the newly updated firmware focus with groups of people beside/behind you? Will they be in focus too?

[@skakdosmer]

Mode 2 wasn't fast enough at all to even change the focus - or the exposure - in the short time you panned to the “tree”.

[@SrCarpi]

Exactly - in Mode 2 the camera behaved as if it were manually-focused on Gordon's face. It didn't have to "reacquire" focus on his face because it never changed focus when he ducked out of frame and never focused on the tree at all.

[@saltisgood7961]

Is this update for the mark 2 as well?

[@BabyBackManiac]

Haha, I hope somebody tells Casey at Canon Conspiracies about the ending of this. Lol. Thanks Gordon. I’ll take the originally jumpy AF and just turn off the servo when I need it locked off. That Original mode is worthless to me. I Just got back from Disneyland it it ruined WAY to many of my shots. I really appreciate this review, man.

[@Sorennn94]

I’ve been waiting for this! Thank you Gordon !

[@cameralabs]

You're very welcome, glad it was useful!

[@GeographicallyFree]

Ugh. I got so excited to see the title of this video thinking that I may finally feel good about buying the G7X III. Now after watching I am a bit disappointed by the initial AF delay in your indoor close-up using the new setting. 😣 Thank you so much for the news and the review though. I appreciate it.

[@SammyJax]

Thanks for the valuable update. I would not have known about the firmware without your update!!

[@cameralabs]

You're welcome!

[@scot_smith]

Great test, Gordon! Good they kept both modes as neither is perfect, haha. I imagine we can still toggle off/on servo AF on the fly in mode 1 to hopefully minimize that pulsing.

[@cameralabs]

Yes, exactly

[@PastorJeffChristianson]

Any suggestions on LIVESTREAM performance using software (ecamm)?? Yes, Canon did a firmware update to fix the autofocus. BUT, in that update it appears they removed the ability to change what is going out via HDMI. It is like the menu item disappeared.

[@Kaijufingers]

Hi I bought this camera based on this updated review. I wondered can you suggest any resources for learning how to use it? I'm finding due to the initial reviews this model received it's light on tutorials.

[@jits1]

Hi Gordon, Could you tell me how to find the firmware version on Canon g7x mark ii. Thanks very much....Jay. PS: I have been to all menu screen twice!!!!

[@gregsvlogshow]

This video was super helpful!! Thank you so much!

[@mikldude9376]

Great work mate , mode 2 i didn't mind at all when you where wandering around the shopping centre at static distance from the camera . mode 1 seemed better for gaining focus when moving around a lot , with only very occasional hunting.

[@marcelmarquez2699]

How does the video autofocus of the G5X Mark II compare to this?

[@CaptainJonathan]

What about an in between mode 3?

[@RawkustvOfficial]

Love the reference to @cameraconspiracies at the end 😂

[@delukxy]

With your indoor studio shots it looked as if the focus had to wait for the exposure to be established. That means that your face wasn't a fixed object as far as the focus was concerned. Does that make sense? What focus mode was being used and what exposure mode, manual? programme? I wonder what it's like outdoors in good daylight?

[@cameralabs]

I always use manual exposure mode, but with Auto ISO. The camera identified me with the frame around my face pretty much all the time, but the AF system was slow to respond. I do wonder about when the exposure kicks in though, maybe it works at the same time as the AF

[@harleyman4105]

The new firmware is a huge improvement over the old version. Auto focusing is much improved over the original version.

[@cameralabs]

I agree

[@highdesertdragons6674]

Canon continues to cripple their cameras. Why not put the dual pixel in this camera? People would have went nuts over this camera and maybe pulled some users back from Sony. It’s pulses like my gh5 and that’s why we bought a Sony. Lol. Great video and thanks for sharing.

[@cameralabs]

Glad you found it useful! The 1in sensor is made by Sony and for some reason Canon went for the version without PDAF. Maybe it was too expensive or maybe Sony wouldn't let them.

[@elmerjrmagpayo2890]

Thank you for me helping to decide on which camera should I buy. Great reviews!!

[@cameralabs]

You're welcome!

[@zantigar]

You conducted a SUPERB test which proves beyond a doubt that... the autofocus on this camera is pretty awful in both modes - Mode 2 for its lack of responsiveness, and Mode 1 for its nervous indecisiveness. Gordon, you could not have given the camera a fairer shake, and I applaud the thoroughness of your efforts!

[@cameralabs]

Thanks and you're welcome! I'd suggest an EOS M50 for more reliable AF.

[@DIYTodaysSewingEmbroidery]

Your video helped me a lot in my decision to buy a canon g7 X III camera~! Thank you so much~!📸😌🙏

[@cameralabs]

You're welcome!

[@abhisekmitra2924]

@Moni emiI am commenting here after a year, so how's ur experience with G7x markiii? Is it still worth buying?

[@Astrolavista]

Thanks Gordon, I think it's great Canon have given consumers a choice of mode 1 or Mode 2 depending on whether you want much snappier AF at the cost of pulsing for dynamic situations, or lazy AF and much less pulsing for static situations. It's a good solution :) Having said this, for their flag ship compact they should have squeezed in DPAF if you ask me. They managed it with the M100 which is both small and their entry level mirrorless!

[@cameralabs]

Canon only have DPAF on APSC or full-frame, so they would have to do a camera like the G1X with the bigger sensor.

[@Astrolavista]

@@cameralabs Didn't think of that, I take it they use Sony's one inch sensor for these then. It would probably cost too much for them to develop their own one inch with DPAF.

[@cameralabs]

@@Astrolavista yes exactly. But Sony does have a 1in sensor with PDAF which is in the RX100 V onwards. I wonder if it's too expensive for Canon or just not available to them?

[@Astrolavista]

@@cameralabs Definitely must be one of those two reasons, but maybe it will be available or cheaper down the line for the G7x mkIV? Still the mkIII firmware upgrade has made a difference, so I guess there isn't as much hurry.

[@AndrewDCDrummond]

when you duck out of frame you should reappear somewhere else in the frame so the camera isn't expecting you to be there and is ready and waiting for you - I learnt that trick from playing with my cats :-)

[@cameralabs]

I do that in my face detect tests in my recent reviews

[@AndrewDCDrummond]

@@cameralabs watching your videos to consider whether to keep the g5x mk2 I have just bought as a replacement for my g7x mk2 which has some bad pixels. Bought the g5x on cyber Monday, was investigating whether to get a domestic & general insurance policy for it based on my g7x mk2 having gone bad after 2 years, and then found the policy I had taken out on the g7x mk2 that still has just over a year left on it 🤣 Doh ! Just sent the g7x off for repair today ! Wish the g5x mk2 wasn’t so plasticky and insubstantial feeling compared to the g7x mk2...

[@belindagrezeszak8393]

I'm planning to buy a camera, canon G7X II to use it for blogging. then I'm thinking of switching to G7X III. Watched some reviews first. Then It says it overheats, there's problem in focusing. There's one reviewer says that Sony RX100 VII is better than G7X III and he showed it why. I can say it's true. But it says that the problem of RX100 is, it doesn't have a descent touch screen and of course the price is double. It says that it doesn't overheat even when you're recording for 30 minutes. Then I watched your video that they fixed the focus of G7x III with new firmware? You said, that canon is going to equip bunch of camera in 2019 with 24P at the end of this year. How would I know if I buy it online that I'm not buying the one that is not fixed? I Now I'm confused what to buy. PLEASE HELP! Thanks

[@cameralabs]

Don't worry, the fixes work on ALL versions of the G7X III - you just download the firmware from Canon and install it, normally via a memory card.

[@johnhaynes9910]

Gosh Gordon you are being a busy boy, loads of uploads !

[@cameralabs]

It's been an insane week - TEN new videos.

[@AshnaPhotography]

Is there any update for g5x mark ii as well?

[@cameralabs]

No word yet, but a 24p is coming

[@AshnaPhotography]

@@cameralabs they should have updated the firmware for G5x ii. Most of us are hybrid photographers despite of owning g7x or g5x.

[@alirezabic6850]

Which is better for Photography ? Canon 250d or nikon d3500. tell me sir

[@cameralabs]

Both are equally good, although the Canon would guide a beginner better with its menu guides

[@CaptainJCRage]

I just updated mine and from my observation it is a lot better and very reactive now in mode 1. I hope they fix the overheating in 4k though bummer.

[@DJones-cf6sy]

Pinoy Pilot Photographer *JC Rage* that’s what I was curious about because I want to buy a 4K camera but I heard this one is overheating

[@CaptainJCRage]

@@DJones-cf6sy I hope when the new firmware coming this december giving this camera 4k24p that it will also fix this overheating problem. I hope.

[@DJones-cf6sy]

I hope so as well cause if not I’ll most likely buy a Sony

[@iamRayel]

So tell me this what’s better for my youtube channel now for vlogging and pranks Mark ii or mark iii??

[@cameralabs]

do you need the new features on the Mark III?

[@iamRayel]

Gordon Laing ehh not necessarily I see that the canon m50 should fit my content just well

[@stefanalhayess1299]

Hey Gordon I was hoping you'd be able to advise me whether or not I should get the g7x mark III over the mark II .I've read a lot of bad reviews on the mark III's AF ... I'm starting to vlog and I can't make up my mind. So my question is is it worth it ? Thanks :)

[@cameralabs]

I'd get the M50 as the AF is MUCH better than either.

[@stefanalhayess1299]

@@cameralabs Thank you for taking time to reply :) I understand but the M50 isn't as compact as the others. Any other flip pocket sized cameras I could take into consideration?

[@cameralabs]

@@stefanalhayess1299 Sony RX100 V has great AF, but no mic input and isn't cheap either.

[@stefanalhayess1299]

@@cameralabs Thanks again Gordon 👍

[@chunkit78]

Hi Gordon. Do u recommend G7M3 or M50 or any camera with this price range for video. I was shooting with Nikon D600 and mainly for product picture, but nowadays customers prefer their products in videos.

[@cameralabs]

For video I would get the M50. Much better autofocus.

[@chunkit78]

@@cameralabs any other recommendations for my need? because by getting m50 i need to get a gimbal for that too while g7m3 has ibis. Really difficult for me to choose between 1.

[@bryanbuff]

Does 4K still overheat in 4 minutes?

[@cameralabs]

I didn't get a chance to time the 4k overheat with the new fimware, sorry. I'm assuming it's the same as before, but maybe we'll be pleasantly surprised.

[@NirajKedar]

I have been a canon shooter all my life and have had 3 canon DSLRs. I was interested in G7xMK3 as it would have been a great go-everywhere camera for a good price. But after your first review, I was quite disappointed with its AF and after some thinking, bought the Sony A6400 and am very happy with its AF/tracking/eye af performance. You helped me make the right decision :) thank you..

[@SideshowBob44]

Niraj Kedar Sony has the best autofocus :)

[@jerryeisner1]

Gordon when you did the focusing test in front of the shutters, the focusing was actually breathing as much as it was sticking. And the lighting of your face is underexposed big time.

[@cameralabs]

I agree, it's not ideal!

[@polyanacarvalho4094]

Do you prefer Panasonic G7 or G7x III?

[@CDines]

Hey Gordon thanks for this update! Quick question: If i were to shoot B-roll of street food in 4k for example, would mode 1 constantly shift focus?

[@cameralabs]

I think mode 2 would be better if the distances don't change much

[@lathicharge8959]

5:54 that girl took my attention

[@ale_si_fa_i_film]

Hi Gordon, thank you very much for this review, I'm going to try the camera for a few days and see if it actually fits my needs well, now that this upgrade is on. You're the best, by the way.

[@xmlthegreat]

I would suggest an RX-100 Mark 5A or Mark 7 instead, their AF is PDAF, leagues better, and the 7 has an audio input as well.

[@MarkMcLT]

@@xmlthegreat Sure, but the Mark 7 is $1300 vs $750 for the G7Xiii.

[@xmlthegreat]

@@MarkMcLT I got my Mark 5A for about 800 USD on a sale. If you don't need audio input and 120mm on the long end, the 5A is a cracking little camera.

[@cameralabs]

you're very welcome, glad you found it useful!

[@ale_si_fa_i_film]

Gordon Laing hey Gordon, you were right, I had to return it :( do you think it’s better go for Sony rx100 VII? Or G7X mark II?

[@berthubbardt.o.o.c7314]

The month of October is packed with tech goodies (cellphones & Cameras) maybe Canon is not dead on Arrival any more.they are listened .Giving folks updates and tools we need . On another note I think the Camera Conspiracies guy ( Casey ) is going to go trick or treating dressed as you . Thank for yet another great test .

[@cameralabs]

You mean he's going to wear a beanie hat and vlog with the camera too close to his face?

[@jackiem4034]

It seems the Mode 2 was able to track your face better than the Mode 1... the Mode 1 seems to struggle a bit... weird that means the old autofocus is better than the new one

[@DJones-cf6sy]

Has the new update fixed the overheating issue?

[@cameralabs]

No, it only addresses autofocus.

[@momchilyordanov8190]

I see virtually no difference between the Mode 1 and Mode 2 outside. And really almost no difference between 1080 and 4k. A side note - If I was a vlogger, I would just shoot 1080 and save myself from the "15 GB footage form my 30 min vlog" illnes. But tbh, for a camera that was panned not to have good continuous AF, pretty much all 6 min outside were in focus. Inside was bad, though. Either Mode 1 or 2 was not good enough. Apparently it needs proper lighting to function well.

[@larckgatdula8151]

How about Overheating Issue in 4k?

[@DerrickW30]

Did you already try this? community.usa.canon.com/t5/Announcements/PowerShot-G7-X-Mark-III-Notice-Regarding-Erroneous-Warning/td-p/279102

[@fatheringautism]

I definitely don't regret returning the camera even after the update.

[@yatyat2791]

The update still sucks? Im planning to buy between g7x mark ii or the mark III 🙈 I donno which one is good since autofocus of III has lots of troubles :(

[@fatheringautism]

Yat Yat If that’s your price point I’d buy the M50. I have two of them. Best camera for content creation at that price hands down. I also own an RX100 VII and still prefer the M50. I had a G7X Mark II for years and it never let me down but once you have DPAF or Sony’s phase detection the G7X just doesn’t cut it. Audio is also a huge thing to consider. G7X is notoriously noisy with the in camera mics. M50 sounds way better even without a mic.

[@yatyat2791]

@@fatheringautism ohh I think I might start looking for reviews of m50 as well :) I just want a best for travel videos and photos in compact camera.. would you think m50 is also good on that or g7x mark ii is better on photos as well? Thanks 😊

[@fatheringautism]

Yat Yat I use manual focus a lot when taking photos. M50 has focus peaking which is nice. In that price range I’d say it is the best option. Otherwise I would look at an older RX100 but I like the colors out of Canon better. I’m a little bitter though. I waited for the G7X III for months with high expectations. I used it for one vlog when I got it and returned it the next day. I like my Sony because it just does everything well but the M50 is the first camera I pick up. It looks better out of camera and the ease of use is much better than the RX100.

[@yatyat2791]

@@fatheringautism I'm very happy that you share your thoughts about this cameras and yes! I waited for g7x III as well and just a disappointed :( ... Now I really just have to have final decision which one to get before Black Friday comes 😊 I truly appreciate your comment btw. Thank you so much

[@laserxxxx]

Perhaps I will just build some more biceps strength and wait for the Olympus E-M5 Mark III... :)

[@cameralabs]

It's not that heavy!

[@CaptainJonathan]

Unfortunately it seems auto exposure on that camera is crippled. Why!? All I want is the perfect camera!

[@heyblushi7922]

I’m recording all my vlogs on the G7X III and I haven’t really noticed a difference after updating the firmware. The auto focus has been fine for me. 🤷‍♂️

[@-grey]

It just seems to snap to any new focus faster. Which is not necessarily better.

[@TheLuNaMaStEr]

I can't stop thinking of Camera Conspiracies right now. haha

[@cameralabs]

I thought of him at the end...

[@jacobskywoker1240]

Always

[@AutospeciLvAkumulatori]

Everything is in focus with that small sensor, wtf "breathing" !?

[@s2_petiteworld206]

He is talking about the background blur. If you look at the lights, they get bigger and smaller like they're 'breathing' because the autofocus is trying to find what to focus but the firmware is helping it lock onto his face.

[@AutospeciLvAkumulatori]

@@s2_petiteworld206 it cannot be done with contrast af system

[@BikeTall]

Although better, the auto focus on the G7xiii is still not great. Especially compared to the Sony Rx100vii. Unfortunately the Sony is twice as expensive and only has an f2.8 lens compared to the Canon’s f1.8 AND it lacks an ND filter. I am glad that both the G7Xiii & Sony RX100vii got an ext mic jack this year...but they are still both lacking in some was when it comes to finding the perfect vlogging camera. Perhaps they will take the feedback to heart and come out with the perfect vlogging camera next year.

[@cameralabs]

All they need to do is put a mic jack on the RX100 VA - and make it cheaper!

[@BikeTall]

Gordon Laing totally agree Gordon. That would be the PERFECT vlogging camera. If only Sony & Canon are listening to all this feedback!

[@aoikemono6414]

I am currently using the g7x iii and am very disappointed with the autofocus. I don't blog and put my face 1 foot away from the camera. I record low light street scenes. And not very low light. There are a bunch of bright street lamps. It can actually be rather harsh. I've recorded a dozen videos and not one is truly in focus. It looks sort of in focus in the preview window from far away but when you actually watch it, it is out of focus. Focus is much harder for vloggers with their face being close and the depth of field being narrow when up close. But at medium and far distances it should be way better. This was not the case for the g7x iii. I am not remotely convinced by the footage here that Canon knows what they are doing. It was broken from the onset and they released it and after two months you get basically no improvement. And I'm talking about autofocus in video in general, not as a vlogger but for the type of recording I do which is medium distances usually. That bokeh tree was NEVER in focus. And if I was trying to record a subject that moves, I would just forget about my camera and use my phone. Gordon mentions several times that the face detect fully recognizes his face but the autofocus can't keep up. It has nothing to do with the speed of the autofocus motor. It can snap to that focus if it wanted to. It already does that when you take a picture and tap on a blurry face. It snaps to it instantly and highlights the face in a box. Yet in video the facial recognition and the autofocus system are completely out of sync. It makes absolutely no sense. This is a recurring complaint by other reviewers. They see me but they can't focus on me. How stupid is that? The autofocus even with the new firmware looks worse than the g7x ii which is shameful. You know there is a serious underlying issue that can't be fixed with firmware, likely some underlying hardware difference, that canon is trying to cover up. They should have never released this camera at all, and definitely shouldn't have attached any sort of vlogger credentials to it or included a microphone jack. If this was a cut down lower cost still images only camera, it would be acceptable. But it's not. And it's not acceptable in this day and age when any phone released in the past 3 years can do better video. Nevermind 4k. Just simply focusing properly. And if you were wondering, yes I had the g5x ii and it has the same bad video autofocusing. Actually I think it's slightly better but not by much.

[@Jimmyageek]

05:52 Hi

[@cameralabs]

they do nice pizzas in there too!

[@Costinvlad]

If you are used with DPAF this is unacceptable, better of with an m200 (almost same size) for a quick run and gun ! Ty for the video you helped me save money 🙂!

[@cameralabs]

Yes, if you don't mind the larger size, the M200 or even M100 make more sense.

[@thatolsenfamily]

could we get canon to do an even better AF firmware update or is this as good as it gets?? they should recall these cameras!!

[@cameralabs]

I think this is as good as it's gonna get

[@darklighthouse999]

I find that the new firmware actually makes the focus MORE unreliable... in Mode 1 it hunts constantly.. and in Mode 2 it is still very ba for any subject that is moving.. This camera remains a huge disappointment for me and a real black eye for Canon!!

[@OurTeslaModelXJourney]

With either mode, the user has to keep waiting, clicking on what they want in focus, trying to compensate for the poor camera. It's draining and disappointing.

[@Driftuner]

Nice seems to have improved quite a bit

[@sam_yang]

I would just pay a bit more for the Sony RX100 series. The functions on that camera is too good.

[@cameralabs]

The Mark V is their cheapest with PDAF and you get a viewfinder too, although no mic input.

[@sam_yang]

Hi Gordon!! Yes the Mark V was a great little pocket camera. I would still have it if it wasn’t stolen!!!! Also one of the reasons why I’ve been on KZbin and camera sites looking for a replacement. I’m thinking about the VII but at 1200, I think I should save up and get a FUJI or maybe even an APS C Sony camera - although I would be sacrificing the size. Man, I loved my little RX100 V.

[@annlineborleo4474]

big thanks for this video🙏❤️

[@wilkbor]

Thank you for the video.

[@arepas]

1.3 firmware live, brother!! vlog mode!

[@ClearAdventure]

This was like an ad for the Mark II. 🤔