Best VLOG camera: Canon G7X III vs Sony RX100 VII vs G5X II

[@venom5809]

Your ability to vlog and stay focused with people all around you is truly impressive.

[@cameralabs]

Thanks, it can be quite a challenge!

[@cooloox]

Fantastic, thorough comparison, Gordon. I really like the way you offered suggestions for earlier alternative models of these cameras for those who may not need the latest features. You're so confident and relaxed doing your tests around lots of people. I'd be too self-conscious to be able to do that. Great job!

[@cameralabs]

Thanks! It's taken a while to talk like that around people! They just think you're mad.

[@frankfeng2701]

These camera cartels are tacitly colluding on specs to prevent the perfect camera on the market. Sony: log profile, good AF, no ND, slow lens... Canon: no log, poor AF, ND, fast lens... No wonder smartphone is taking over.

[@alrestivo2746]

I don't think you can put everything and the kitchen sink into a camera and keep it light and affordable, I think Sony just works harder to give you a near perfect camera.

[@frankfeng2701]

@AL RESTIVO Not enough to keep up with computational/technical advancement of smartphones, such a ultra wide angle lens, better touch interface, 4k60, smart HDR, etc. professional creative app, etc. For $1200 I expect more than a minor upgrade.

[@JonBushell]

Imagine how good an iPhone could be with a 1 inch sensor. Almost as good and in some cases better than these with a tiny sensor.

[@mikldude9376]

Great video Gordon , aside from all the technical stuff which was really good , Did you have a favourite out of the three you just really liked the feel of ? It's funny how general feel can be so different , Recently I bought a Sony a73 with a Tamron 25/75 (I think) , and took it out for a bit of a photo session with my old Nikon p600 bridge camera , , and even though the Sony cost about 5 times more , the old p600 feels better in so many ways , even though image quality is an easy win to the Sony.

[@alexmorgan3435]

@@frankfeng2701 Yup totally frustrating. Camera manufacturers are pretty much operating a cartel. Drip drip feed of minor improvements. Stick with a smartphone.

[@NekroMcFly]

Sony: Better detail and better autofocus. Canon: Better color, better stabilization, and way cheaper. Kind of like the color of the Sony too, so natural, but indoors looks very dull and unsaturated.

[@cameralabs]

I agree

[@operationada]

yeah the canon always outperforms when it comes to color, it's such a shame b/c the sony AF is crazy good

[@uncleelias]

My views from watching vlogs and live streams: For filming a story, constraining the audiences attention to where you want is important. For vlogging at a location, I think having the audience see the background is best. It psychologically draws them into the location. It becomes like having a conversation in person. We look at the presenter's face for a bit and it's in full focus while the rest of the screen is naturally no longer in focus. We look away from the presenter's face as we would in a natural conversation. What we're looking at snaps into focus and the presenter's face becomes blurred because that's just how eyes work. As for the audio I think the addition of the mic jack is fantastic, but that new Rode doesn't sound all that great, does it. For vlogging I'd simply go with an action cam. The Sony or new DJI action cams look pretty decent and is probably the best value given the features. Maybe you'd want to put the DJI on a gimbal. For people who take vlogging or streaming seriously they'd probably want to go with a split solution of an action cam and an aps-c camera paired with a smartphone.

[@WaltPitts]

Really appreciate your in-depth comparisons and reviews Gordon. Sony's RX 100 VII seems to have a lot more features, but it's in a price range that makes want to save my money for a Canon EOS R. I would buy the Canon G7X III but by the time I get the accessories for it I might as well apply that money to an EOS R as well. Sticking with my iPhone X and Canon 80D for now. Dig your videos!

[@greysuit17]

A6400 looks like it’s the perfect Vlogging camera. Wider lens selection, ND filters can be used, bigger sensor, more cinematic look. I think the Sony RX100VII would be the best back up, travel, street camera though.

[@cameralabs]

I'm planning on a comparison video between them...

[@Zoltan99]

You can add ND to any RX100 base on magnets (you can buy ready sets). Yes A6400 is better but only if you don't move where your camera is on tripod, if you want shoot in motion with walking then only RX100. A6400 + gimbal it is no longer such small and convenient solution. Wide angle lense is also big lense in A6400.

[@stephenfletcher6257]

@@cameralabs it would be perfect :) I want to change my old RX100mk1, and need a good camera for photo and vidéo... to use underwater, while freediving. I need it to be compact, fast (I don't have so many time to make focus and shoot), and usable in low light too. Autonomy is a key too. Thank you Gordon.

[@greysuit17]

Gordon Laing that’s great! I’d like to see that for sure! Your videos are always so good. Thank you 🙏

[@wellnas6625]

Sony af is insane!!! Once it's locked the subject...it doesn't lose it focus.

[@DukeBox]

i really cant believe, how bad the canon af works. very sad

[@Scott2436]

Thank you for this video. To be honest I don’t see much difference in the G7X and RX100. I think the price is the decider

[@sosomelodies659]

They are world's apart. RX100 does 20fps with eye AF and tracking. Plus a pop-up EVF with no blackout. No recording limit...etc.

[@Scott2436]

Soso Melodies No ND Filter, partial touchscreen, slower lens, 500 dollars more etc.....

[@sosomelodies659]

@@Scott2436 True but I don't need those features. To each their own.

[@marbella3965]

I returned the cannon g7x mark iii due to the issue of auto focus

[@VBen-ye6ti]

Your videos are always very helpful! Thank you

[@momchilminkov5722]

The M6 or M50 by Canon and 6xxx series by Sony are what I would buy for this purpose, instead of these.

[@SuperJoePardo]

I own 2 M50s already and was hoping this would be a smaller alternative when I don't want to lug around the "bigger" camera for family vlogs.

[@wulfdean]

Thanks for this comparison I'm buying the cannon g7xiii right now it's got a better colour reproduction of skin colour without color correction, I hate doing post filming film flam. Also i like the warmer colors it films in comparison to the Sony's pale skin bs and the other colors of pretty much all you shot.

[@thisiserich]

I don't know man, I honestly think the canon looks better. I didnt see any difference in autofocus that was discernable, or that would really matter. I understand that the sony is better with autofocus but i think the canon's color and resolution look better. I know that the sony may look sharper than the canon but sometimes you want a softer cinematic look, and i think the canon nails that. Ive been on the fence with either the g7xiii or the rx100vii and i think i have decided to get the g7xiii. Especially since they updated the firmware to make the autofocus better.

[@stefanschulthess5397]

Canons seems to have better stabilisation. But Sony has the much better autofocus imo. The ND Filter again is an advantage of Canon. For me it has to be the G5x or the RX100 because of the pop up EVF.

[@chcomes]

yes, I wanted to say that too. The sony stabilization made weird "jumps", for me it was very distracting

[@MusikPiratCH]

Honestly, I don't see any difference with ND and the brighter lenses of the Canons. Overall for my taste the Sony is by far the (technically) better choice! :P

[@piotrdruidowicz5199]

MusikPiratCH vote with your money :P

[@MusikPiratCH]

@@piotrdruidowicz5199 Good point! Would you choose any of those compact cameras for your money? (For those cameras I'd only spend about $400!)

[@piotrdruidowicz5199]

MusikPiratCH I have Fuji x100f so iso performance of this three wouldn’t satisfy me now. If one needs a small camera it’s better to go for Ricoh GR series or Fuji X100* - unless one likes zooming and previously was shooting only with a phone...

[@Dia1Up]

Oh good, I think the only reviewer so far that acknowledges the g7x mk3 exists

[@DarkIris007]

Great review man. Thanks. As usual Canon auto focus was not as good as Sony but I like the exposure and color of the Canon better.

[@cameralabs]

I think you've summed up the whole thing!

[@theadventuresofguyanddawn9641]

I wonder if the sony can be dialed in somehow to look like the colors of the canon

[@cameralabs]

@@theadventuresofguyanddawn9641 you can certainly tweak it. Some people sell profiles for the Sony's which more closely match Canon colours.

[@theadventuresofguyanddawn9641]

@@cameralabs thanks for the reply👍

[@beacherry]

But for vlogging, has Canon’s inferior focusing (which I read on amazing customer reviews), has that killed G7 iii?

[@robertd5702]

hello , thank you Gordon for this vlog... but i think which there are not filter ND, with vidéo ,only with the photography no ????

[@cameralabs]

The ND filter on the Canon cameras can be used for photos AND video.

[@robertd5702]

@@cameralabs OK thanks

[@SNEAKchannel]

great comparison!! i think G7xiii good color but very bad in auto focus! Rx100 vii ฺThe best focus but i hate color style on Sony ( Yellowwwww) and Expensive!! Thank you for make me decision :)

[@cameralabs]

You're welcome!

[@mikecullis8401]

I an am avid viewer from across the pond in the UK. Love your approach to all things photography - I also watch 3 blind men and an elephant and feel that I have an open window to photography. Please keep up the good work. Regards to you both from sunny Tenby in West Wales, UK.

[@ThePeteW]

This is a great helpful review. But what happened with the Sony at 16:40(ish) going standard stabalisation? That is a horror. So shaky.

[@bryanbuff]

I’m really concerned about the autofocus on the G7x iii.

[@cameralabs]

they get there after a second or two, but if you're in constant motion, they will struggle...

[@astigmatik]

True. I think even the mark 1 focuses better than the mark 3

[@Driftuner]

@@cameralabs how is it doing with the new firmware update? Did it get better?

[@cameralabs]

@@Driftuner I filmed a video about it here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aXTImaKnmrFngtk

[@MODESTYXO205]

Canon g7x iii colors are better......Content is King

[@zacmorri]

5 megabyte internet connection? I'm concerned

[@timmark4190]

Except for the Canon colors I think Sony is a better choice

[@cinemenico]

Except for as well... the price. And it missing out on: the f/1.8-2.8 lens, built-in ND filter and better touch integration for example... The C-AF and performance/speed otherwise is impressive, no doubt. Philip Bloom just did a video on it.

[@CurtisWarnasch]

So i downloaded this video and put the g7x III and rx100 vii side by side to see stabilization. Seems the canon is closer to you than the sony but visably more stable. ND filter when u spin by the water shows nuch better detail with the Canon. So on the fence if i should exchange my Rx100 vi on the gx7 iii. Great comparsion, but maybe in future comparisons do a side by side.

[@samsung5181]

The G5xii looked the best for your skin tone & quality.indoors, the sony was nice.

[@mare1204]

amazing work ! you changed me mind to G7X even I was strongly believing to the Sony RX100M7. RX100M7 has much more weakness in dark room and white jump situation that's why I decided to change it, thank you

[@OzzieTech]

I was waiting for the G5X 2 but as they changed its body and no mic input has put me off i really liked the G5X body :(

[@cameralabs]

Are you tempted by the other two here?

[@mrwriter86]

I’ve just left a comment above that pretty much confirms my view. Bureaucracy in the design phase always prevents these manufacturers from creating the perfect product. For some reason they just don’t want to offer it, in case it impeaches on other models in their lineup, or affects the release/sales of future products. What they fail to recognise is that if they nail a release well enough, then customers will gain confidence and brand loyalty may return to how it was in the good old days. Sadly, I can’t see that happening, but now is the time to do it, because Sony is stealing Canon customers left, right and centre, especially from the DSLR market, which is feeding down to the compact camera market, too, which I suspect is because of what I’ve just said above. Someone at Canon has to say enough is enough, and spend the money on getting better products out there.

[@liliank5598]

Can you do a tutorial on how to set up time lapse on G5x please

[@8peterp]

Sold my rx100 V, didn't like the colors ,low dynamic range and the noise. seems with VII nothing changed ,but the focusing of Canon is just unacceptable ,5 years old smartphones can do better.

[@nijiyaautohaus]

You have the best comparison Vlog here, thanks great video

[@tombic6373]

For still photography, how do you rate the the Sony RX10 vii vs. the Canon G5X Mark II? The Sony has a slower lens but with an enticing 24-200mm zoom. The Canon Mark II has a faster lens at 24-120mm. Even though the Sony focuses faster, I worry about its slower lens in low light. For vloggers the Sony outperforms the Canon Mark II because of its superior focusing. But for still photographers, the Canon Mark II performs better in low-light. Does better low-light capability trump faster focus for non-video tasks? Thanks.

[@cameralabs]

It really depends on which lens and which body you prefer.

[@MadeFokker]

Wondering which one performs the best in low light condition (evening street shots) ?

[@CDines]

Most probably G5X Mk 2

[@drrkleut]

The Sony is nice when it works. I’ve had RX100iii, Rx100iv, and RX100V. No, I got them not because I’m rich and bought a newer model when it came out. I got a newer model because the old one started having problems. Always the flash was the first to stop working because it’s thin and fragile power supply lines broke. Then the autofocus followed. I always set the image quality fairly high, about 10M for each photo on average. The result was excellent even when the images were blown up to fill a 65” TV. Now all the photos I take look good on the camera but grainy on a 17” notebook, looking more like 2M photos. I checked the property of these photos and they all still occupied an average of 10M space each. I really like the overall performance of RX100 series over Canon cameras although I always prefer the color of the Canon. Now I realize that I have to start to argue why I have to buy a new Sony in less than two years. I’m going to get a Canon this time and see if it lasts longer.

[@Eigil_Skovgaard]

Hello Gordon, Among others I have watched your videos about Sony RX100 VII. Thank you for the good tests. I feel on more safe ground now if or when I decide to get this small technical beauty. Two items have not been spoken much about though. The first is the possibility to release an external flash without the frontal burst from the built-in flash (a small night cap could hide the flash and the sync unit, but it's rather untechnical). I don't know if any of the sockets support an external flash? On my Sony Alfa 900 I have an infrared or wired flash sync in the hot-shoe. Also, is one of the modes allowing more than one shutter speed for flash synchronization? And my second question - I also find the colors from Canon to be superior. But my impression is that a number of color profiles are available, and a similar balanced skin tone can be obtained by choosing the right combination?

[@cameralabs]

You can certainly tweak the processing on any camera to adjust the tones, curves, etc, but you'd have to experiment. It may not be possible to perfectly match a Canon-look on a Sony due to the parameters they offer, but you can certainly adjust it. As for external flashes, none of these can trigger one beyond using their internal flashes to do so. You;d have to check the web specs for the flash options. PS - if you end up ordering online, please consider going through my price checks here and at cameralabs.com thanks!

[@RandomLifeProductions]

Sony is overpriced for what it is... G7X Overheating issues. Not interested in the other cannon... now what are the M5, M6 and 90d going to bring us.

[@jingjing6129]

Canon G7xIII color is definitely better.

[@RockyColaFizz]

Hmm. Modern Sony, or Canon camera with literally the Sony sensor from 5 years ago.......

[@ByeByeBelly]

I just can't decide. It's like they've deliberately made the cameras to be seriously lacking in what the others have as strengths. Sony's audio is horrible and not many people want to use an external mic because tge whole point is to have a tiny camera you can throw in your pocket. I just want the g7x with way better autofocus. I mean you cannot compromise on audio or autofocus ffs

[@drArtA]

Sony is the absolute winner.! But all three cameras are shooting - 4Kp25/30 in 2019, seriously? Does strobe effect infuriate me on dynamic scenes? Any Chinese action camera for $ 100 shoots 4Kp50/60, and here the combine for $ 1200 still can not shoot 4Kp50/60 - a shame!

[@frankfeng2701]

Sony is complacent of its progress. No wonder smartphone is taking over.

[@MrWynton5364]

Thank you for the comprehensive review. It must be a lot of work.

[@walkhawaii]

Swap the LENS on the rx100 vii with the one on the rx100 v AND then you will have THE BEST !!!!

[@frankfeng2701]

These camera cartels are tacitly colluding on specs to prevent the perfect camera on the market. RX100Vii: new features, no ND, slow lens... Rx100V: old features, ND, fast lens... No wonder smartphone is taking over.

[@walkhawaii]

@@frankfeng2701 maybe next year with the RX100 viii....!

[@athlete_squirrel]

Thank you for making this video. It was a review of the most curious products.I subscribe and cheer for you in Korea.

[@cameralabs]

Thankyou!

[@SuchanBajracharya]

Well, I bought Sony RX100 VII thinking it's better, but I sold it for a Canon g7x III purely for color science, nd filter, and better aperture! In the end it's the pleasing color science 😅

[@FlatWaterFilms]

I want these to be full frame cameras. You know they can do it. That with good glass, max aperture 2.8 ...

[@cameralabs]

They do a full-frame version, it's the RX1 R - sadly that's how much you'll be spending on a full-frame compact with a nice fixed lens.

[@FlatWaterFilms]

@@cameralabs Sorry, without a fixed lens. A prime at 35 mm don't cut it for me. More like a 18-135 mm would be perfect.

[@cameralabs]

@@FlatWaterFilms an 18-135mm lens and full-frame sensor in a compact body? Sadly unlikely!

[@FlatWaterFilms]

@@cameralabs Why not, look at the the megapixels. I can't tell the different in picture quality between over 30 and 12 in my G16 . That and everyone thinks they need 4k or now 8k. Edit and compile a 1/2 video in 4k (how big is the file), upload it to KZbin and how many people can even steam 4k. Also, note what these smartphones can do now.

[@cameralabs]

@@FlatWaterFilms the problem is the physics of making a lens that can focus an image over a large full-frame sensor, particularly if that lens is a zoom and or has a bright aperture. Couple that with the cost of full-frame sensors to start with and that's why there's so few full-frame compacts and why they generally have fixed lenses and high prices. Again the Sony RX1R is typical.

[@Dia1Up]

I'd take the built in ND and 1.8 over phase detect

[@seangreyvenstein6819]

Watching this while deciding on the G7X and got to 5:25 realizing it still doesn’t focus. Sucks. Thanks so much for the in-depth review. 👌

[@cameralabs]

Glad to be of service...

[@VBen-ye6ti]

I know LUMIX LX-10 is a considerably old camera now, but how does it compare to these new ones? Especially in terms of image quality (low light etc)

[@cameralabs]

I like the macro on it

[@perjensen3959]

Which one of the three cameras are better lowlightcameras? I have thought about getting a new camera with 4k for a wedding recording, but am not sure which one is best at low light conditions. Is it Canon with higher aperture than Sony or do both cameras so just as well?

[@cameralabs]

Yes, you guessed right, it's the lens with the brighter aperture, in this case the Canons. BUT if you like the Sony AF, you can get it and the f1.8 lens in the RX100 VA.

[@pumaabuahmed5928]

Thanks Gordon very good comparison

[@matthewlanders9644]

thanks bud, you really helped me make up my mind with this video

[@algregvalencia9844]

I heard that g7x iii when in 4K video over heats?

[@cinemenico]

You think it's possible to 3M (adhesive) a coldshoe to these cameras and be sturdy enough (have room to fit one)? -- hum, just had a looksie, probably not. Maybe if you're okay blocking the the pop-up flash, but then you're also blocking the screen. -- Someone just needs to do a custom coldshoe bracket that just sticks out the right amount to the left of the camera (most brackets are too extended/bulky). -- Btw, one video I saw of someone at Vidcon with the new Canons and they showed a Canon grip/tripod like Sony has (I have that one for my HX99). Any info on that?

[@cameralabs]

Yes, for a light mic system perhaps, like a Rode Videomicro

[@cinemenico]

Cool! Hey, have you seen some videos from Videcon where Canon launched these cameras? In some there appears a silver Canon branded bracket with hotshoe and a remote trigger grip tripod (like Sony has for the RX100/RX0/HX99). Do you have any official information from Canon regarding these accessories?

[@Larkintv]

So which one I have to buy ? Sony much better focus, Canon 1,8 plus ND and price. But focus so so ...

[@cameralabs]

I know, it's hard isn't it! Maybe the RX100 VA is the answer....

[@Larkintv]

Gordon Laing I need mic ))) so thinking now between this 2 cams.

[@nemanjab8649]

Why gx5 mark ii rustle when you filming in quite place?

[@cameralabs]

You mean like a rattle, or wind noise on the microphone?

[@nemanjab8649]

@@cameralabs yes

[@cameralabs]

@@nemanjab8649 the built in mics on these cameras are very sensitive to wind noise.

[@nemanjab8649]

@@cameralabs can i solve this with eksternal mic?

[@cameralabs]

@@nemanjab8649 you can, but if you want to plug it into the camera to save yourself from synchronising later in the edit, then you need a mic input which rules out the G5X II.

[@atefgilly6962]

hi, thank you for the review. why without any photos?

[@maruwaanmoses]

What focal range are you vlogging at. You seem awfully close with a very tight FOV. If this is the widest I don't think these cameras are the best for vlogging.

[@cameralabs]

Yes this is at the widest setting, but there is a crop in some stabilisation modes.

[@operationada]

The sony outperforms on AF like CRAZY. Shit is super impressive.

[@cameralabs]

It's definitely a major strength of Sony across its range...

[@meisage6464]

How does the g5x compare to the eos m6?

[@FoodieTrekker]

Hi Gordan, may you please paste link for the mic, thanks

[@cameralabs]

My review of the wireless mic is here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nKvaqomdpZqLaqM

[@BeckersReviews]

No side by side?oh ok there was a little at 19th minute mark but i wish there was some stabilization comparison

[@cameralabs]

Er, I show the stabilisation on all three! If you're interested in all the IS modes, check out my individual reviews of each.

[@ICEIT214]

Does G7X III over Sony RX100 III or V? @Gordon Laing Please help me to chose one? I wanna a camera for taking photos of my kids. I don't know photography too much (an amateur user). Thank you very much.

[@cameralabs]

If the subjects are moving, then the RX100 V is your best bet.

[@ICEIT214]

Thanks for you reply. Please help me one more question. I'm considering gx7 III or RX100 III. Is RX100 III enough for catching kid's moving? Because V is out of my budget.

[@cameralabs]

@@ICEIT214 depends how fast your kid is. I've found them frustrating for motion. if uyou want to shoot moving subjects confidently and can't stretch to the RX100 V (I know it is expensive!) then go for a small interchangeable lens camera like the Sony A6000 or Canon EOS M50. Check out my mirrorless camera guide at www.cameralabs.com/best-mirrorless/

[@goharderr]

For picture purposely only, would you upgrade from g7x ii to a g7x iii? Is the WiFi/Bluetooth any different?

[@goharderr]

I just need a great pocket camera with great picture quality and a tilt screen.

[@cameralabs]

No, for photo quality alone there's no difference.

[@PQmario]

Can you try the DJI Osmo Pocket 3.5mm Adapter on the G5x II if it´s work ?

[@rudigerbuck8348]

Thank you for the detailed report. One question: In the previous Moselle, both the viewfinder and the display, if you had previously set this to maximum brightness, darker. In bright sunshine I had real problems then. Sony has solved this problem with the A6400. The viewfinder / display remain bright. What about the Mark 7? I'd be very interested in that.

[@cameralabs]

I think it'll dim once you start recording 4k

[@rudigerbuck8348]

@@cameralabs That's the problem. Is that still present in the Mark 7?

[@CathyChu]

Where can I buy the mic set for your g7x mark iii?

[@cameralabs]

This one? www.cameralabs.com/rode-wireless-go-review/

[@jrosedds42]

Nice to have mic and all, but 24mm just isn't wide enough IMO. Someone needs to finally come out with an 18mm wide end.

[@carlocauton3678]

which is best for photography?

[@cameralabs]

If it's sport and action or if you need the longer zoom range, the Sony.

[@carlocauton3678]

@@cameralabs mainly landscape, portrait, and street photography.

[@theinfinate]

17:26 Effective ey? not sure id call that effective

[@devawratvidhate9093]

I need budget compact/ pocket camera for product photography indoors , outdoor conditions May budget is 400-500$ (Include Mirrorless camera) I'm considering sony alpha a5000

[@cameralabs]

Yep, the A5000 would be a good choice, also consider the CANON EOS M50, Sony A5100, Sony A6000, Canon G7X II.

[@devawratvidhate9093]

@@cameralabs Thank you so much . Which of these work best in Auto Mode and has zoom or can change lense

[@cameralabs]

@@devawratvidhate9093 please see my reviews of each of them at cameralabs.com for all the info you desire!

[@christianvixen5193]

@@devawratvidhate9093 g7x ii

[@KoenMiseur]

The Canon looks like the better camera for real vloggers, who don't really need the long lens but really need the easiest way to upload video's from their phones, especially for hikingvloggers (many of them already use the G7X M2) this would be the better camera as they don't need to carry a laptop. For everything else the Sony is the better one.

[@snowiepuppy5453]

koen miseur Wrong. The Sony is

[@marioplus321]

Gordon, pay more attention to window displays while recording as I can see which shop gives better reduction so I know where to shop;) /// thx for comparision!

[@cameralabs]

You're welcome!

[@marioplus321]

@@cameralabs 🥇

[@Astrolavista]

Can I just check Gordon, did you have the Canon's at f1.8 for the focus test, and the Sony at f/4? I know you can't go to f1.8 with the Sony but you could go to f2.8 so the both sweat spots for focus would be closer in size perhaps? I'm just wondering if it would have been fairer to stop the Canon's down to 2.8 so all three f-stops matched and all cameras had to deal with an equally shallow focal plane. I understand the FOV would change, so maybe this is why you didn't go this route? Thanks for the vid :)

[@cameralabs]

Good point. On the one hand it's fairer to put them on the same playing field, but on the other you want to see their differences and benefits and in this case I wanted to check both the focus AND the potential for a shallow depth of field. But in answer to your question, if you're talking about the segment with the fairly lights, the G7X III was at f2.8, the G5X II was at f2.5 and the Sony was about f3.2.

[@Astrolavista]

@@cameralabsHi thanks for the clarification, yes I was referring to the fairy light segment. F2.5 to F3.2 sounds pretty decent for a comparison in my opinion. I thought I'd heard f4 for the Sony and didn't catch what you were using for the Canons, so wondered if you were wide open. Thanks again :)

[@cameralabs]

@@Astrolavista hmmm, maybe it was closer to f4 on the Sony, but still on these sensors, that doesn't make much difference in DOF as you can see from the backgrounds.

[@bryanbuff]

My concern for the autofocus on the Canons went from worrisome to insane laughter. What a massive FAIL. Good lord, Canon, what have you done (or not done)?

[@rabbithia]

Thank you so much for making this video Gordon! It is very useful! I have been waiting for this comparison.

[@cameralabs]

You're welcome!

[@zyxyuv1650]

Try to figure out how Sony can rename the Alternative camera without messing up the RX100 brand. i.e. RX100 VIIA is not going to work.

[@cinemenico]

The RX100 VI and VII aren't even RX100's anymore imho. They've become travelzooms. Not sure who's asking for longer range and are okay with sacrificing sensitivity/max wide aperture. But it kinda ruins what a premium compact should be about, which is what the RX100 series originated as. For all I care they rename 'em to TX100 cams. They could use the last two digit as the year they're released. E.g. the 2020 RX100 VIIA would be the RX100M20 or RX120.

[@mrwriter86]

I have the G7X MK1 and looking at upgrading now that it’s available with a mic input. Incredibly, both the Sony and Canon models seem to have their own flaws, even after several iterations. The Sony seems like it’s a great choice, so many great features but no ND filter? That’s insane, especially at the price point. The Canon (G7X III) has the ND filter, but is likely rendered useless because the AF will mean nothing’s in focus. Canon had a real opportunity to steal so many customers from Sony, they just had to nail that AF and offer 24p. They also had a real opportunity to double up on that by sticking a mic input on the G5X MKII. Right now these manufacturers need to put out the absolute best they have, and whoever is in charge of making decisions on what features to offer needs to be sacked, because it’s costing them (mainly Canon) millions in revenue. If you’re a blogger, maybe the Sony would be the better choice. But, for me (shooting mainly photos with occasional video), and for the price point, having the ND filter is preferred. Even then, I think I’ll stick with the G7X MKI, and I suspect many others will do the same.

[@cameralabs]

Remember Sony offers you a model with an ND filter, f1.8 lens and great AF in the RX100 VA. The longer lens in the 6 and 7 make it harder to implement an ND and they're really going up against phones which can't zoom as far.

[@mrwriter86]

Gordon Laing Thanks for your reply, Gordon. You’re right, the RX100 VA is a really good option. I suppose the search for the perfect camera will continue, in general, until the right balance is struck. For me, ND and 3.5mm input are a must have, especially for these fast lenses, and outstanding video capture capability. I take your point regarding the ND being difficult in the longer lens, that makes sense. I just figured that a serious photographer would be the audience for the VII and as such, would consider an ND as a must have 🤷‍♂️

[@cameralabs]

@@mrwriter86 it's also possible to mount ND filters magnetically with third party kits...

[@ghettorice3365]

It’s such a hard decision due to bad auto focus for the mark 3 but the color selection on the Mk7 is just bad to be honest. Hard to decide, probably gonna for the the canon.

[@daviansdad5938]

This video made me decide to get the G7X instead of the Sony RX100. I had the Sony before so I'll give the Canon one a chance. Thanks Gordon. I will use your links btw. ;)

[@cameralabs]

Glad to be of service!

[@SkyDomeVIZE]

NICE VIDEO, WOULD OF LIKE MORE LOW LIGHT TEST. OVERALL AWESOME VIDEO. THANKS

[@faieruz]

The stabilization on the G7x is better!

[@deeyammy783]

Totally agree with your conclusions. Thank you for such complete review!

[@cameralabs]

You're welcome!

[@mamaxwell]

Gordon, this is my first video from you. Terrific. Informative and very interesting. Keep up the good work! New subscriber here.

[@cameralabs]

Thanks, glad you've found me!

[@CDines]

Canon just released a firmware (24/10/19) for better AF! Hopefully someone can check this out!

[@andrewdove342]

Thanks for the review very helpful. I wish Canon had more confident AF, it should with the new processor. Is that something which could usually be improved with software updates?

[@PK-ql5en]

I think that your fellow Brit - Philip Bloom - showed in his recent video about Sony RX100 VII that you can attach a small magnetic ND filter to the lens. It’s an extra thing you need to remember to carry with you but it is a useful tip. Anyway personally I still believe that Sony needs some serious work in their colour department. Canon looked so much better in that regard.

[@cameralabs]

Yeah, I've seen those magnetic filter systems working on the Lumix compacts too.

[@christianleo3135]

G5xII is more for photography.

[@cameralabs]

Yes.

[@ajh5124]

Agree

[@chanlok9675]

rolling shutter comparison?

[@cameralabs]

are you commissioning me to do one?

[@thenikhilray99]

Colors on the G7X looked so cinematic when you were near the sea. I love Sony but it made you look pale and the overall colors very bland compared to Canon 😢 I recently sold my Sony a6000 and got a G7X III for myself and G7X II for my wife ( combo cost me $500 from a seller )

[@onthemove301]

First thought Gordon is that you need a new shaver. Panasonic have a good range😉

[@cameralabs]

Ha ha, I'm a wet shave man, but I do like to sometimes have an electric buzz before hand to do the hard work!

[@RawkustvOfficial]

Great review as always but dagnamitt!! I wish the Sony did youtube live streaming, it literally has everything I want for video but for that live youtube streaming feature. Is this something they could add in a software update?

[@amermeleitor]

Canon G5X MK2 colors, stabilization and lens. Sony autofocus

[@davidperry813]

Great vid. Thanks

[@cameralabs]

You're welcome!

[@nisartp4067]

Suggest me a Good vloging camera for travel under $1000

[@cameralabs]

Er, isn't that was this video is about?

[@nisartp4067]

Yes bro isn’t not about this video but I hope you can give me good suggestions about my query

[@cameralabs]

@@nisartp4067 I'd suggest the RX100 VA or the G7X III.

[@notaturkey2607]

Fantastic review, thanks for the effort!

[@cameralabs]

You're welcome!

[@oneeyedphotographer]

I really don't understand why 24 is such an issue. KZbin doesn't care, 25, 50 and 100 are good enough, and use less card space than 30, 60 and 120.

[@cameralabs]

Exactly, if you're uploading to YT, it doesn't matter.

[@H.pylori]

Very useful, thank you, sir.

[@astigmatik]

Ok. Sony has better AF and better specs especially for photography. Canon has better images. Anyone who goes for the Sony needs to do color grading in post a lot or do in camera adjustments. Anyone who goes for Canon needs to learn to focus manually or tweak it until you get the best AF results. Based on my experience, the metering in Canon sorts of affects the AF whether in video or photo mode. I find that a spot metering makes the AF just a littllllleeee bit better.