Canon RF Drop In Filter Adapter: Awesome But Expensive

[@tombuck]

Time Markers: 0:00 - RF Adapter Basics 0:37 - The Pros 3:00 - The Cons 5:50 - Is It Worth the Price?

[@matthewpopp20]

The drop sound when your puppy was on camera really added to this awesome and informative video. Smashed the like button for the KZbin algorithm.

[@agentsixsix]

No need to buy the (too) expensive clear filter. Just buy the standard RF to EF adapter (that often came with the camera anyway) and switch adapters when filming indoors or with lowlight.

[@HeatherRamirez]

i can't wait to marry you 🥰

[@tombuck]

Now THIS is a comment! ❤️

[@PhoenixSeniorPhotography]

Well thats effing adorable!! Aw! I hope they are getting married in real life :)

[@heatherjustcreate]

@@PhoenixSeniorPhotography We did and we livestreamed it haha kzbin.info/www/bejne/mn2lYqmra6eIbKc

[@stickerli]

I agree and stopped buying it.

[@PeterLindgren1]

I really like the concept of this, hope that Sony drops something similar!

[@tombuck]

Having the filter BEHIND the lens is so nice.

[@vladimirtalijan]

Whey probably will 3 years later in their half assed way, and then update it for 5 years to be on par with what Canon did the first time :D It's exactly like Apple and Android :)

[@kenbarnessalisheye546]

Now that more people are using RF lenses, I hope someone comes out with a dedicated RF-RF drop in filter holder. Front filters are not as useful as rear ones.

[@davidbest5149]

why don't they just add a rubber cover to insert when filter taken out ?

[@tombuck]

Exactly! 😑

[@DougHanchard]

I wish Canon made a drop-in filter adapter that works with EOS non-R camera body's that is EFS mount to EF & EFS compatible for T3 / 1100Ds, 5 and 7Ds.....

[@tombuck]

That would be cool! Unfortunately I think they're pretty much closing down EF lens production. Maybe a third party will make something like that one day!

[@MrWarwickJones]

Why do they need the clear filter? Why not just have an empty filter to plug the slit?

[@tombuck]

Great point! And that would probably be cheaper too. Definitely more elegant than my gaff tape solution.

[@MrWarwickJones]

@@tombuck hahaha, apparently the filter changes the optics ever so slightly--a last point of refraction--because the filter adapter is slightly shorter than the standard adapter. That's why you need the clear filter. Who would've thunk it.

[@Skill_Issue92]

I wish there was more resistance on the little dial when adjusting the ND stops

[@tombuck]

Me too, it’s a little too easy to move it accidentally.

[@over1498]

Hope you bought the Meike since this video, it’s something like $130, not sure… but it is honestly far better build quality and it comes with a clear filter 😂 Canon is good at making money (and good at making gear)… but plenty of third party companies are just as good at making gear.

[@tombuck]

I haven't used the Meike, but I'm glad to know it's cheaper AND comes with the clear filter. As it should be

[@EverydayFamilyFL]

For a first attempt at this concept, I think Canon left a lot of room for the next version. For the price, you would think it would have come out of the gate with "L" quality build. Disappointing in price, but excited about the potential, especially once it gets to the lower end camera lineup that I use. Great video, thanks!! By the way, just did a video about the new Sigma 16mm F1.4 for EF-M cameras, check out the results if that is a camera line you use!!

[@tombuck]

Oh awesome! I just got a Sigma 16mm for the Sony cameras we have at work, and it’s a cool lens. I’ll check it out 👍

[@thomaslarmit6434]

4:30 isn't there just a solution to stick a piece of gaffertape to the gap of you don't use the ND filter?

[@tombuck]

Yes, that definitely works and I've done it myself. It's just not exactly how you want a $400 piece of gear to work.

[@henry20061227]

Agree

[@winonadaphne6445]

i came here to let you know that your thumbnails are very beautiful

[@tombuck]

Thank you! They’re always a bit of a struggle, haha 😬

[@ronfoy9618]

Hi Tom, I know you covered this a long time ago. Now there are caps fitted to cover this opening. Do you think the ND Adapter has some tech inside to make the focusing off of the the clear glass insert is not used? Thanks a Million if you can help.

[@tombuck]

The glass insert shouldn't have any impact on image quality (kind of like when you put a clear UV filter on the front of the lens). 👍

[@ronfoy9618]

@@tombuck got you !!! Thanks Brother and Happy New Years to You and Your Family. About that $130 UV Filter 😅 Love Your Videos. Funny I had 2 EOS Rs then your video popped up on that after I saw a few of your videos prior 🤣

[@njrivetelite]

I'm eventually going to buy one.. but.. will just use my cheaper one for now

[@aamsergie]

Meike just came out! Please review that.

[@tombuck]

It looks like a GREAT option. The price is fair and it comes with a clear filter 👍

[@JJohnson313]

Didn’t think about it until now...the adapter only works with old lenses so for new RF glass you have to still buy standard ND filters. You can only use the drop in for the EF glass. That’s too bad. I’m picking up an EOSR and just new I would be able to use the drop in filters. Guess I didn’t think that one out lol.

[@tombuck]

Yeah, it’s not a great solution if you’re looking to go with all RF lenses, but it’s a cool perk for those sticking with EF. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@user-dx2qj4jd8g]

Hope they make several non-variable normal ND drop-in filters. Even if they will cost 130$ each. Because this polarizer-nd is bad for filming sky. I mean, sometimes i dont need that dramatic-dark-sky effect.

[@tombuck]

They haven't added anything new to these for a while, but I'd love to see them freshen up the lineup.

[@darealphantom]

Another great video! Glad I didn’t buy this I will definitely purchase Peter McKinnon’s ND filter instead

[@tombuck]

The PM filter is really amazing. I’m working on a video about it now. I tested the 2-5 stop version, but if you shoot at anything wider than f2.8, I’d recommend the 6-9 stop one.

[@idahofallsmagazine3691]

4:18 ... so you're saying there is no option to just have an empty cartridge? The filter and the holder are one inseparable unit? Booooooo

[@tombuck]

Yes, sadly. Although you can use gaff tape to cover the hole.

[@CodyCha]

You're looking at this the wrong way. You're not spending $400 but saving hundreds of dollars by avoiding selling your EF lenses on the used market and not having to spend additional $$$ on RF lenses.

[@tombuck]

Very true since EF lens are awesome. But you cna still use them with the same $100 basic adapter. I'm probably splitting hairs, but I just wish this were a bit less expensive based on the build quality.

[@movinpics2529]

Thanks for this review, Tom. I enjoy your insights. Have you looked into the new Metabones RF Speedbooster? It give an extra stop of light and almost eliminates the 4k crop. It looks like a godsend for EOS R users.There are only two KZbin videos talking about it.I would like to hear from someone who is using it. I reached out to Peter and Matti as well.

[@tombuck]

I haven’t thought about it, but that sounds perfect! Metabones makes some pretty good stuff. The price is a bit high, but it seems like you get a lot of functionality.

[@movinpics2529]

@@tombuck it seems pretty cool, check out kzbin.info/www/bejne/oGm1l3irlrCsnNE

[@tombuck]

Awesome video, looks like a very usable solution for a lot of things.

[@__guest]

OK, great channel :) I bought my R5 last week. And of course with the drop in filter adapter. BUT what about RF lenses? Should Sigma finally design lenses for RF mount, I will buy these too. But then I can no longer use the filter adapter or can I? So far I had only seen this in use with EF lenses. Have a great day - greetings from Germany ;)

[@tombuck]

That is kind of an ironic thing- if you buy a native RF lens you lose the flexibility of the drop in filter. Although I'd LOVE to see Sigma make some native RF lenses.

[@Flixoto]

Great video! You speak very clearly just overall have good vibes. Thx!

[@tombuck]

Thank you! 🙏

[@Almi6hty]

Great review. I was able to pick one up for $150 today new

[@tombuck]

Now that's a great deal!

[@ExploringSpace]

Elephant in the room: Why did they put clear glass into the clear filter, when NOT HAVING ANY GLASS would be better in so many ways?

[@tombuck]

Just having a cap would be best for sure.

[@DesignYourLifeTips]

I’m still wondering should I get one... but have you try those clip in filter? Can you make a comparison for drop in vs clip in filter ? 😄🙏

[@tombuck]

The drop in filters are so nice because they work with any lens. If by clip in you mean the ones that go one the front of the lens,they’re great too but just a hassle to change. If you have the budget for this and all your lenses are EF mount, it’s a great tool.

[@Creative7inc]

Another great video! Really like your concise, informative structure!

[@tombuck]

Thanks man! It’s always nice to hear your feedback. 😎

[@karlheinzschmitz3168]

Go for Meike much cheaper and it works fine!

[@geoffreyenriquez]

I look forward to owning.......3rd party versions of the filter/adapter that will cost less than half of the price!

[@tombuck]

I’d be very interested to see if they can make one that works well with the autofocus system. 😎

[@ansonh7495]

Great idea but what if I have RF lenses too? My RF lens cannot use the VND?

[@tombuck]

RF lenses right now just have to stick with traditional filters. I do love the rear mounted option and wonder if Canon will ever make a simpler RF only version 🤔

[@idahofallsmagazine3691]

2:33 nice touch

[@tombuck]

I don’t think anyone else has ever noticed that 😁

[@beauphomasterpiece3795]

It’s good to know that this has a lighter side to it . It doesn’t look like I have to get a clear drop in although that’s what it should have came with the room to buy a filter for it . The clear filter alone is almost $200

[@tombuck]

I know, kind of ridiculous. I’ve just been using a piece of gaff tape to cover the hole when not using the ND 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@HwL01]

A duct tape over the opening can get you pass your 130 dollars problem.

[@tombuck]

It’s true, I’ve used gaff tape and it does work.

[@markshirley01]

Can you not get a clear filter printed - surely someone can do that.

[@tombuck]

It might be possible. To be honest, I’ve just used gaffe tape to cover the hole when I’m in a pinch 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@blueghost8057]

This adapter costs 450 Euros in Holland. It’s insane!

[@tombuck]

It’s really frustrating that people are overcharging so much with increased demand. 😕

[@audiophocus65]

Clear filter not included??? That's ridiculous.

[@tombuck]

I agree! Even if there’s no filter, just a cover to fill that space would be helpful.

[@baja1980s]

Great video my friend, well said and done

[@jingwu997]

So, if I’m a vlogger, who has been doing a lot of documentaries outdoors, as well as indoors, which option of these adapters is best suitable for me, please

[@tombuck]

I might recommend sticking with the regular EF-RF adapter and then using a traditional ND filter that goes on the front of your lens. There are some new models out now that offer the ability to connect via magnets, which will make it easy to swap them i f you go from outside to inside.

[@jingwu997]

@@tombuck thanks for the advise.

[@AdrianvanWijk]

is there a drop-in lens filter for the EF to EF-M lenses?

[@tombuck]

As far as I know, Canon doesn't make one and I haven't heard of a third party version. But I could be wrong (it's happened many times before).

[@glenns001]

i bought one of these, and i agree so overpriced for what you get, should come with the clear drop in as well, also the dial should have some resistance as its easy to move without realizing

[@tombuck]

My thoughts exactly. Great tool- high price for what you get.

[@vladimirtalijan]

For what you get? For $400 you can get a crappy green tint, X pattern, hardly 6 stops variable ND :) This is 9 stops, zero color cast and X patterns, it's so cheap it's ridiculous, highend Hollywood filters cannot do that and they cost much more :)

[@glenns001]

@@vladimirtalijan ive got RF glass now so cant use it, in australia its closer to $700 , i now have Nisi VND that has no X $200

[@TheVFXbyArt]

Thing is, polarizers Can be like $150 plus. Plain adapter cost $100 Couple with a smaller batch that a typical adapter raises the price. Also you would need additional adapters for extra lenses, with wide angle needing slim ones. I’ve easily spent twice as much getting polarizers for different lens diameters. This thing is cheap, not expensive!

[@tombuck]

I think it all comes down to your workflow, equipment type, and preferences. This thing’s great, but I still think it’s just a bit too expensive.

[@NoahStephens]

Great video. May I ask what is your audio setup? I use a Rode Video Pro on a boom arm with an extension cord. I find the noise floor is too high even when the manual gain on the EOS R is set to 1 notch above zero.

[@tombuck]

That’s actually my exact same setup. I usually keep the audio gain at the first notch from the bottom and then boost it 5-7db in Final Cut.

[@DanCThorpe]

How many stops does it give you?

[@tombuck]

It goes from ND3 to ND500 👍

[@DanCThorpe]

@@tombuck thanks

[@BlackOps-Ent]

smmph, thanks for the heads up regarding the clear filter. I have a bone to pick with B&H now, as they did not inform me I need the clear filter. They've got me over the fire, don't' they... dammit! I hate to be taken advantage of. Wish you would have shown more or the product results or use. Good review and thanks again...

[@tombuck]

You can always use gaff tape to cover the hole in lieu of a clear filter, but it’s not perfect.

[@BlackOps-Ent]

@@tombuck Great idea! I have piles of gaffing tape around and in my bag.