How and Why Delayed APEXES Work

[@InterimExec]

The #1 Reason I Will Trail Brake in every corner! Somewhere in one of your previous video you said. I paraphrase "NEVER run wide in a corner, NEVER touch the line ina corner, NEVER have a white knuckle curve, NEVER be afraid of twisties and run for the interstate." Trail braking is the Magic bullet to have all those NEVER. It gaves you the confidence to enter later and faster with the brake light on...knowing that you can correct your direction just by adding a few points of brake....That's it. and it does work in the car as well (a safe place to practice). THABK YOU,THANK YOU, THANK YOU

[@blipco5]

The overhead drone footage is phenomenal. This video is heads and shoulders above the rest because of it.

[@jj.1412]

@ 6:13- yeah the most beautiful lines :)

[@blipco5]

JJ....Yes. That curve is one giant apex. I've been riding a long time and still find it hard to "choose" the apex on such a curve. Usually about halfway through I remember I'm not MotoGP racing and decide to reign it in and hope I figure it out on the next go around.

[@viki9539]

your channel improved my cornering substantially without even me meaning to do so. thanks

[@hughess004]

I've been riding for 45 years on various bikes, and watched countless youtube videos on motorcycling, this is one of the best videos I've ever seen on cornering. Thanks

[@CanyonChasers]

Wow, thanks!

[@ghostpepperrides4805]

Outstanding. At 66 I have always believed I learn everyday. Thank you for the information. You may never hear about it, but you have saved a life or two for sure.

[@GMak81]

You are doing a great service to the biking community with these videos. Thanks very much.

[@CanyonChasers]

Glad you enjoy it!

[@paanfarkhan4677]

i cut around 3sec at my local track after watching your videos and applying them on track. Really great tips!

[@anthonyd5651]

3 secs is a big amount bro. Good..👍

[@NoobNoobNews]

It is amazing how slow you end up being when you go too fast. I use some of this stuff for driving my car, and I can say that I corner much better now. Took 5 minutes off my commute. That being said, I don't lean my car. I use videos like this so I don't lean at all. This video I use to keep track of when to accelerate through a turn without spinning out. If it is a problem for a motorcycle, it is worth a car-driver to pay attention to. I know people who have spun out their tires completely in a corner because they hit the gas too hard. Nice clear day, dry road. Apex too soon and gas to fishtail off the road. I hope to get myself a motorized two-wheel eventually. I just need to have a reason to justify the budget... waiting for a reason.

[@fatihdulgeroglu9347]

7:08 is the best explanation I've ever seen on Internet.

[@jmcgriddle11]

Even 4 years later, this is the best cornering video on YT.

[@soujrnr]

I could never figure out why I struggled with certain turns using slow, look, crash, and burn until I learned about trail braking! I first learned about it from you, Dave, right here on Canyon Chasers! My friend turned me on to your channel some years ago, and I am hooked! Trail braking changed everything for me, and it's saved my bacon a few times as well. I don't ride a crotch rocket, but I have found that it doesn't matter. I ride a 1,000 lb. Gold Wing, but trail braking works the same. In fact, I rode "The Snake" here in northeastern Tennessee where I live, and trail braking made that experience so much more enjoyable! It's 489 turns, 3 mountains, and 1 valley. Thanks for all you do, Dave! I always look forward with great anticipation to your next video! Ride safe, sir!

[@dudesweetpro]

I seriously have no idea why they don't teach this as the standard in all motorcycle classes. It makes soo much sense! Coming from rally. I knew all about late apex's being fast and reliable when you don't know the turn exactly. My motorcycle instructor briefed this but did not deep dive and I think he should have. Most people who motorcycle want the thrill of ripping their local twisties. Early apexes are for the track or the turn you know everything else absolutely needs to be late unless you can see the whole corner and are confident using your eyecromiters.

[@RickLincoln]

Well organized material with excellent graphics support and perfect delivery. Your videos make learning easier.

[@michaelgonzales1401]

Been riding over 40years and everytime I watch your videos I learn something new. I appreciate your well thought out explanations and examples. Thank you for your time and videos.

[@CanyonChasers]

I appreciate that more than you know! Thank you!

[@Claimjumper55]

Terrific content and your production quality is off the charts.

[@CaptainSwoop]

I've just received my learners permit. I had no idea regarding the physics involved in motorcycle handling. What a fascinating adventure this is. I salute you for taking the time to help me and your excellent, intelligent presentation. Thanks.

[@nelsonandrews4641]

Thank you so much ...my learning continues ...I am riding a mobike from the age pf 9 and am still riding at 52 ,,,trail braking into a corner thrills me to bits ..

[@CanyonChasers]

Me too!! It's so satisfying!

[@812williams]

your videos have already saved my life keep it up so i can

[@brianperry]

Fifty seven years of riding motorcycles has taught me that you can never stop learning. In that time I have seen /experienced new technologies :ie tyres, suspension, brakes and the geometry of the chassis,.all of which in combination is a giant leap forward. Making safe use of the afore mentioned is forever a learning curve..greeting from a Brit living in España... great video.

[@BikesAndBatallas]

Hi fellow guiri in Spain!

[@Glasshousebc]

Fabulous explanation and most important, the repeated highlighting of staying safe... in your lane... was very, very welcome. Great graphics, overhead shots, and summary. Nice work matey... stay safe Steve.

[@shrederduck]

One of the best motorcycle channels on KZbin. Great breakdown and teaching of technical aspects that make riding safer and more fun. Super informative and an incredible source of riding knowledge and wisdom. Keep up the great work!!

[@pauliefromphilly]

I've been riding since 1986. Read every book or article I could find on how to ride better. I'm not bad but I knew I could get better. Now I know a lot more. Thanks.

[@hoboesque]

Very helpful. "There is no such thing as a fast line through a slow corner". And on public roads, visibility is everything. It's not about whether you're going optimum speed for the corner, the conditions, and your bike. It's about whether you're going optimum speed to deal with the unexpected popping up right in front of you.

[@D.E.X]

Okay, that has to be the best presentation of proper cornering I've ever listened to. 7:00-8:30. I've known this all for years. Twist of the Wrist II harps on it. Hell, I've been explaining it to other riders for decades, but that 90 sec clip is SO perfect! Consider yourself plagiarized.

[@UncleWally3]

Excellent video, especially the parts where you anticipate (and explain) common misconceptions. As a Canadian who has made the pilgrimage to Deals Gap a dozen times over the last fifteen years. It was there I learned to really watch others learn the hard way to ride The Dragon. After riding it slowly, smoothly and skillfully, and “practicing” it well over 300 times I can now say I can truly enjoy The Dragon and breathe the fresh mountain air - at the same time. That said, after fifty years of riding long and hard on many places on the planet, I’m amazed at how many skills I have yet to identify and fully develop. This is mostly because the first twenty years of riding I just faked it and luckily made it to ride another day. For the last twenty years or so I began to privilege practice over performance; I feel I’m much better off for it, so thanks for the advice and the video . . . well done!

[@adnan_Ok]

Normally you would need to pay in order to get information this good. Great video. (56 year old biker, S1000RR)

[@MikeFLHT]

This is it! Learned this technique 10 years ago at the Street Masters course. Best training I ever received on a motorcycle. Added trailbreaking this past year and this is a perfect combo. 5,000+ mile Western States motorcycle trip earlier this year and put myself through a lot of twisties. THIS made riding a helluva lot more fun than ever before. Good stuff. I'm glad somebody finally put this on KZbin video.

[@CanyonChasers]

Yeah! Streetmasters was such a fantastic program!

[@MattFellowswasHere]

As usual sir-you’re doing great great stuff here. I don’t know how we could do it but there needs to be a video on VISION. What I am seeing on rides is people really not perceiving the road correctly. A lot of times it’s really hard on unfamiliar asphalt to really understand weather + tire temps + debris + angle of attack + weight distribution (both bike and you) are HUGE factors in cornering success. A corner is, at the end of the day, an obstacle to be overcome-And how we perceive it in advance versus the reality of what is actually there is massive. How many times do we roll into a corner and it says 35 on the yellow sign-Only to find out it’s probably an 80-mile-an-hour-corner. On the flipside 25s that really should be 10-15s. Your vision and your ability to interpret what the road is doing is CRITICAL and you can’t always rely on the department of transportation. And let’s be honest you’re going to get caught out once in a while-double-apexes, blind stuff, roaming cattle-who the hell knows- so what you’re giving people here I think is quantumly important!

[@CanyonChasers]

Thanks, and yeah. No shortage on video ideas. Visual lead is so important and so nuanced.

[@tommac8556]

taking it easy I reckon number 1 but hey... ahem . do learn technique from some one who knows their stuff, all those variables pure luck for me to be honest

[@pauljrcarty9314]

I am a cyclist in the northeast USA. I use this method to turn, there has been a few top riders who have gone down recently from not knowing the physics behind turning this this. They lose the front wheel or the back wheel kicks them off. I am a lot heavy than most cyclist taking turns a pve 24mph which helps stay mounted. One of my friends broke his helmet trying a variation of the turn. I wasn't on that ride but that might not have happened if i was aware i was being mimicked on the bicycle. Ride on!

[@DanDanTheFireman]

Love this

[@shiftlofi]

Thank you so much. I rewatch these videos every week until the concept is engrained in my mind and I practice these every time I corner. I just can't show my appreciation enough!

[@finallyitsed2191]

I've been riding for over 50 years and have actually employed at least some of this technique, but your explanation and graphics makes it all come together. Great video! Thanks.

[@manny2718]

Great video! As a new rider I find this very helpful. Thanks!

[@ItsSaiyan]

I completely agree and support the way of the teachings in this video Maybe possible collaboration in the future?

[@detritus5151]

With 40 yrs experience riding all manner of motorcycle in all sorts of hooligan ways, this is undoubtedly the best way to go around a corner, dirt or tar. Slow in, fast out. Works at any speed. This is also very useful for the idiots coming the other way, because if you're out wide on a blind turn and the oncoming traffic goes wide, you are already off to the side, "away" from the danger and once you can see the apex and exit of the corner, you can see if it's safe to tip it in.

[@markgiancola8973]

I can’t get enough of your cornering instruction. It has made my practice so much more realistic and specific. Emphasis on being a technically skilled rider. I’m excited about riding again!

[@jessestarks3128]

I learned the slow, look, lean and roll method when I started riding in the 90s. This makes a bit more sense. I stopped riding back in 2005 but might get back on again in the near future. I'll put this clip in my learning toolbox.

[@jackmary720]

Now here's a channel that cares how and what they're teaching their audience. Gotta love it.

[@fidgetwidget9116]

“Slow is smooth and smooth is fast”

[@massivemikeh]

Days of Thunder! Haha

[@donkeizluv]

golden... first time i watched i did not understand much but now.. this content is pure gold.

[@tedsalmon2533]

I've watched this video a number of times and I've got to say practicing these skills has helped me immeasurably. Here in Tennessee we have tons of twisty roads, most of which are blind with decreasing radii. Now it's pure joy riding these roads. Thanks!

[@CanyonChasers]

Right!?! And isn’t that just spectacular!?!

[@schemkesa]

Great explanation. I will share this video with my FB Multistrada group.

[@paulst6862]

Great video. I learned some of these techniques like trail braking and delayed apex by trial and error as a kid riding bicycles and racing other kids around the neighborhood. When I was old enough to ride motorcycles, I would subconsciously use these methods that transferred from riding bicycles. If it has two wheels, physics is the same.

[@peterpannifer1958]

This video was really helpful; well presented and explained. Thank you. Peter P

[@TheTerrypcurtin]

Great videos. At 64 riding is fun again. Learning and applying is a blast. Buell XB12X

[@arnoldschertzer4975]

I’m a returning rider after more than 20 yrs...70yrs young! (2012 K14).

[@worthlesscrusaderuntilliha6943]

You come of f your both dead

[@coolhandpuke3780]

@@worthlesscrusaderuntilliha6943 unlike your good self that bounces off hard surfaces.

[@oootandaboot9431]

By far the best cornering video on the web...thanks a million. KH Scotland.

[@LINKchris87]

Just went for some extremely twisty backroads today. Had a bit of trouble tryng to find the "fast line" around a slow corner. This video is valuable material. Thank you!

[@999999999999009]

I’ve been riding for years including many track days, and watching this video was still informative. You have a way of articulating what seasoned riders (myself included) sometimes have difficulty into words. Great job!

[@craig5477]

Wish I’d seen this years ago. It’s the best most easily understood explanation I’ve seen. Now I have a plan for improvement

[@doesntmatter3068]

Great points, I learned YEARS ago when racing dirt. This might sound a little dumb but its true. Put your eyes on the target where you want your bike to go. Your bike will follow.

[@kellygoertzen849]

Just wanted to thank you again for producing such great content. Quality in every way. Keep it up please! I just did a 600 mile weekend and watching this makes me want to go right back out today and carve some more.

[@tommac8556]

Been riding amateur hobby and job for forty years and I am a know it all bar room bore. But this guy just taught me a technique. nice one

[@iallso1]

Great description, I used to have the problem of appexing too early as a result of lack of confidence. A half day cornering clinic at the local track resolved this. One other technique I was taught when riding roads for the first time is to use the environment, (telegraph poles, trees and hedges), to identify where the road might go beyond your immediate vision. This advanced warning enables you to prepare not just for the next corner but possibly for the next.

[@korzbro35]

Man, you are a fountain of valuable information. Thank you and please keep doing this!

[@davidevans2753]

Thanks for making this video. It is without doubt the best explanation of safely cornering on a motorbike I've seen - genuinely improved my understanding and confidence especially with unsighted exits.

[@rikileechunhoo]

I like your detailed explanation and technique. The best explanation of trail-braking and delayed-apex in youtube. Precise and simple to understand. After 'erased' my old riding habits and run your advisory for a month, it really improved everything not just speed, but the most important part of road riding - THE SAFETY and STABILITY. This new video with refresh content make it a must watch for all motorcyclist. Ride Well!

[@justinhofer3640]

It's amazing the bigger my bike community gets ( rider or bike) the more I learn. Your info lines up with so much that I've learned from time in the seat. Love your videos.

[@tbaker294]

Nice video; real nice reminders. A street rider for 40 years; add another 14 when I first rode rode my 1st minibike; then on to trail bikes. I live in AZ, and travel the entire US...and love getting on the twisties.

[@firmfoundation7421]

Very well explained. Great video. Thanks for helping me to be a better rider.

[@Drakos99]

excellent, even after nearly 40 years of road riding i find i sometimes apex too early, this really helped me understand that i've been doing more of the orange line and i need to do more of the blue line.

[@MrEpr194]

Excellent video and explanation. The only detail I would suggest adding is at the 2:48 mark for your Apex definition. The Apex is everything you said plus it is the point in the corner you can begin to add throttle and stand the bike up. You can see the rider in the video doing that and that critical bit is how you, the rider, can get instant feedback if you hit the apex correctly. "Can I start to accelerate from this point?" No, not at the apex yet and I probably Apexed too early if I'm hugging the lane markers.

[@AlanAboshamaa]

I've been riding for a long time, I have always ridden cruisers and never been a track rider, many points that I have instinctively learned through the years I get to see explained in these videos. Having a better understanding still helps me improve and I recommend these videos for beginner and advanced riders alike. I had an accident last year and I truly believe that things I learned in these videos prevented me from reacting improperly and getting hurt worse.

[@stonethecrows5334]

I was taught this exact method by my Police bike instructors here in Australia nearly 30 years ago and always ride delayed apexes fast or slow. This method is crucial for fast road riding especially when you don't know the road. It sets you up perfectly for the example: left then HARD right scenario. If you want to ride fast please perfect this method, it might save your arse. Great video mate.

[@garywebb7481]

I think that was the best way in my 70 years to see this explained. Awesome job! I was showed late apex many years ago and my fear factor went way down in corners after that. Now add trail braking and it is even better. Thank you so much for taking your time to explain this to us mere mortals.

[@Geo_357]

As a new rider I appreciate your videos...I will watch over and over and put it to practice on the road. Thank you!

[@DanielJLopes]

Fantastic, I've done this for years, but never understood the mechanics behind it! Thank you!

[@tysoncott7402]

very good video, thank you for making it. I’ve rode street bikes/sportbikes for the past 27yrs, done a CCS race school, & a few trackdays through the years, a person never stops learning or taking advise on how to ride well & ride safe.

[@matosur5471]

Hi from Slovakia. Excellent video and very useful explanation for all the riders! Thanks!

[@SoundmanCH]

This channel offers really good and instructive videos. I am coming back to this one in particular over and over again. Thank you!

[@germansestopal6167]

Excellent !!! Thank you. From Mexico!!!

[@scottthornton9237]

Very well explained and easy to understand! Thanks for posting this!

[@petebrandstrom1038]

Watch pertinent video’s before riding each “season”. Being off the bike for a few month’s, the video refresher assists remembering and learning new technics. Thanks for the video’s

[@stevehammel2939]

I don't get to ride the twisties enough because most of my area is flat. It takes me about 4-5 days to get 'the feel' again on a trip to NC . I always enjoy learning or relearning the correct way to take a line. Your video was very informing.

[@speedbird2166]

Your videos are a great resource! Thank you for taking the time to make them!

[@edgaryellow]

I like the fact that you actually promote driving safely and not just fast! Well done 👍 keep it up 👍

[@andymotovlogs546]

I have been instinctively following this method without having heard of these technical details I suppose. So it was amusing to realise how much science I have been applying into my riding already.

[@r.o.c.4545]

You are providing quality explanations and education for riders of all levels. Rest assured you are not only helping us enjoy our bikes more, but saving many lives at the same time. Awesome work 👍👍

[@jamesivory6414]

Greetings from Australia. Your video was well explained. Clear and concise about cornering apexes 10/10. This video is great on improving every motorcyclist cornering ability.

[@exothermal.sprocket]

And never forget, your front brake is your most effective and most powerful tool. It's your friend. It's the quickest way around corners.

[@davidjones-vx9ju]

and best way to dump your bike

[@exothermal.sprocket]

@@davidjones-vx9ju Obviously, if you treat the lever light a light switch, instead of a dimmer switch. Funny how few people understand just how powerful and effective the front brake is. It can be used all the way to an apex, even while leaned over. It can be applied HARD, after the front tire contact patch has increased by weight transfer. But without practice, they will never know. For instance, the most extreme brakes on motorcycles belong to MotoGP bikes. Carbon ceramic rotors and 4 piston radial calipers. How strong is the single front tire contact patch? 177 mph to 59 mph in 5 seconds. That's 23.6mph reduced per second average. 1,100°F carbon-ceramic rotors temperature before brake-release.

[@prakashdev6008]

The unforgiving friend: the front brake.

[@exothermal.sprocket]

@@prakashdev6008 Learn some stuff. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bYOkZIGJpLSZqtE

[@tracer1127]

I often trail brake into a corner. Unless you pull it on way too strong your front won’t wash away. The bike doesn’t try and sit up if you do it gently . Practicing gentle breaking into a corner means that if you do need to slow up if the unexpected happens you’ll be less inclined to grab and wash out.

[@nijumsangma3400]

Great explanation, keep up the good work. Thanks.

[@geraldchristensen2826]

Thanks for another great teaching video. Thanks for reminding us that Skill and Knowledge are the pathway to a long and happy life. Keep up the GREAT work!

[@HighlandLeos]

You are simply great at explaining these motorbike issues.......keep up the good work and thanks!

[@fullnoeleko]

One of the best video (or just "the best"...) I have seen in my "motor way of life" ! THANKS a LOT !

[@wadejohnson5447]

Wow! Great video! I had been hoping that at some point you would touch on the fact that we need to be very mindful of making sure that no part of our body or machine crosses over the center line. You also clarified several more advanced points about late apex cornering that helped me come away with a far better understanding of the application of the technique. Thank you! 🏍️🏍️🏍️

[@JC-bm7nv]

Great way to simplify a complex & always looming part of our ride.

[@Bill97070]

Thanks for bringing that up. That was my initial of thought of cornering. After the rain had let up, I went for a short ride and in approaching a Right turn at the last of three curves, I moved over from just Right of the center of the lane to the outside of the lane and hit a narrow strip of gravel that the rain had washed on to the road. My bike slipped out, like marbles underneath and the bike and I slid about 20', me on my butt. Loose gravel has worried me since, lesser now. I'm thinking now, I should have been wider at my approach than I was. Good refresher for me.

[@mdragon99]

Awesome video, the discussion at about 7:40 is the best I've seen!

[@gc767christmas5]

Always great information keep posting thanks

[@jeremybly]

Your my favorite channel for tips and knowledge. I get so tired of everyone posting beginner crap. Probably because that's all most vloggers are. Keep on making vids like these! Oh i bought sport riding techniques! Great book.

[@DanDanTheFireman]

I tend to make videos for beginners... Because that's my audience. I love this channel as it applies to many different experience levels.

[@jeremybly]

@@DanDanTheFireman i also follow you dan dan! But yeah i get that.

[@timbarnett3898]

I watch these for love if motorcycles and I enjoyed your description of maximum turning, I'm thankful for doing it the right way. My mom gave me picture of her an her brother, Jerry, while she was pregnant with me, so she told me I've been riding even before I was born, Cool! Lots of corners because that picture of her pregnant was taken 71 years ago! Tim

[@richardhorstketter6574]

Thank you! I tried that technique yesterday and loved it. I ride a cruiser and don't ride hard, but I still love curves. I've often felt awkward in the middle of a curve, not knowing where I should be in the lane. Using this strategy I just stay wide until I can see the exit, and then aim for that and roll throttle. It works great for any curve, too. And looking for the exit makes it easier to stay focused where I should be focused anyway. I'm hereby subscribed.

[@ericharding5686]

You guys are awesome. I've been watching your videos and have taken a class. I plan to take additional classes as well. I feel so much more in control than I have in the last fifty(50) years I have been riding. The classes should be mandatory. Well at least the classroom . THANKS! 12:02

[@baldandbiking]

Thanks for the coaching sir!

[@georgeblumenthal7938]

I am 70 yrs old. Been riding since 16 yrs old. I am still learning safe riding skills. Thank you.

[@diannegarrett852]

Me too!! I am a 66 yr old girl, still learning more than ever now. Never too late...Thank you!!!

[@WarrensAdventures]

Great content! I struggled with delayed apexing for a while but when I got the hang of it, I dropped my lap times significantly, I shaved 10 seconds off my PB with delayed apexes. You’ve got a subscriber from me!

[@ronh821]

Best video I have seen on street cornering techniques. Great job!

[@erocnw1341]

This is a really good video with clear explanations and visual aids to help breakdown somewhat complicated concepts. Super helpful.

[@bg-zm6kv]

This is an excellent video, I really appreciate the quality of your content.

[@aiden1444]

I’ve been riding for 33 years now, this is great to see by diagram. I’ve always said it as, come in a corner hot, mild rear control pedal, and roll it on, on the way out of a corner. This is the true feeling we all chase. This can enable a rider to be 1/2 second faster in a corner. Now apply 1/2 faster to every corner. Even on a simple nascar track that’s 2 seconds faster per lap. You’ll never read this anywhere, this is experience talking. But let me know the effects of 2 seconds per lap faster in nascar. With that attitude, even you’ll be signed to drive for someone. R is for RACE.

[@scott.H1100]

That was one of the , if not the best tutorial I've ever seen on cornering with full explanations. Thumbs up 👍👍👍 all the way . Thanks I will be sharing this one 👊😎 top job !!

[@miguelriverocolado5202]

Great detail for cornering, so now lets get to practice!!! Thanks.

[@joethebummer23]

I used to hit my apexes early but started doing delayed apexes unconsciously as I got better. Thanks for making a video; Informative and explains a lot with good reasoning and examples. Will share with my friends because I'm a terrible teacher.