How and Why Delayed APEXES Work

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CanyonChasers

CanyonChasers

Күн бұрын

How to corner on a motorcycle, not by trying to find the line, but with defined entrances, apexes and exits.
For many of us, learning how to identify and hit our apexes isn't exactly intuitive. But in this video, we go into detail about why delayed apexes are important and how to find them, even on corners you've never been through before.
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@fidgetwidget9116
@fidgetwidget9116 6 ай бұрын
“Slow is smooth and smooth is fast”
@massivemikeh
@massivemikeh Ай бұрын
Days of Thunder! Haha
@blipco5
@blipco5 5 жыл бұрын
The overhead drone footage is phenomenal. This video is heads and shoulders above the rest because of it.
@jj.1412
@jj.1412 5 жыл бұрын
@ 6:13- yeah the most beautiful lines :)
@blipco5
@blipco5 5 жыл бұрын
JJ....Yes. That curve is one giant apex. I've been riding a long time and still find it hard to "choose" the apex on such a curve. Usually about halfway through I remember I'm not MotoGP racing and decide to reign it in and hope I figure it out on the next go around.
@DanDanTheFireman
@DanDanTheFireman 5 жыл бұрын
Love this
@RickLincoln
@RickLincoln 5 жыл бұрын
Well organized material with excellent graphics support and perfect delivery. Your videos make learning easier.
@paanfarkhan4677
@paanfarkhan4677 5 жыл бұрын
i cut around 3sec at my local track after watching your videos and applying them on track. Really great tips!
@anthonyd5651
@anthonyd5651 4 жыл бұрын
3 secs is a big amount bro. Good..👍
@NoobNoobNews
@NoobNoobNews 4 жыл бұрын
It is amazing how slow you end up being when you go too fast. I use some of this stuff for driving my car, and I can say that I corner much better now. Took 5 minutes off my commute. That being said, I don't lean my car. I use videos like this so I don't lean at all. This video I use to keep track of when to accelerate through a turn without spinning out. If it is a problem for a motorcycle, it is worth a car-driver to pay attention to. I know people who have spun out their tires completely in a corner because they hit the gas too hard. Nice clear day, dry road. Apex too soon and gas to fishtail off the road. I hope to get myself a motorized two-wheel eventually. I just need to have a reason to justify the budget... waiting for a reason.
@ghostpepperrides4805
@ghostpepperrides4805 4 жыл бұрын
Outstanding. At 66 I have always believed I learn everyday. Thank you for the information. You may never hear about it, but you have saved a life or two for sure.
@InterimExec
@InterimExec Жыл бұрын
The #1 Reason I Will Trail Brake in every corner! Somewhere in one of your previous video you said. I paraphrase "NEVER run wide in a corner, NEVER touch the line ina corner, NEVER have a white knuckle curve, NEVER be afraid of twisties and run for the interstate." Trail braking is the Magic bullet to have all those NEVER. It gaves you the confidence to enter later and faster with the brake light on...knowing that you can correct your direction just by adding a few points of brake....That's it. and it does work in the car as well (a safe place to practice). THABK YOU,THANK YOU, THANK YOU
@Claimjumper55
@Claimjumper55 5 жыл бұрын
Terrific content and your production quality is off the charts.
@TheTerrypcurtin
@TheTerrypcurtin 5 жыл бұрын
Great videos. At 64 riding is fun again. Learning and applying is a blast. Buell XB12X
@arnoldschertzer4975
@arnoldschertzer4975 5 жыл бұрын
I’m a returning rider after more than 20 yrs...70yrs young! (2012 K14).
@worthlesscrusaderuntilliha6943
@worthlesscrusaderuntilliha6943 5 жыл бұрын
You come of f your both dead
@coolhandpuke3780
@coolhandpuke3780 5 жыл бұрын
@@worthlesscrusaderuntilliha6943 unlike your good self that bounces off hard surfaces.
@Glasshousebc
@Glasshousebc 5 жыл бұрын
Fabulous explanation and most important, the repeated highlighting of staying safe... in your lane... was very, very welcome. Great graphics, overhead shots, and summary. Nice work matey... stay safe Steve.
@adnan_Ok
@adnan_Ok 5 жыл бұрын
Normally you would need to pay in order to get information this good. Great video. (56 year old biker, S1000RR)
@exothermal.sprocket
@exothermal.sprocket 5 жыл бұрын
And never forget, your front brake is your most effective and most powerful tool. It's your friend. It's the quickest way around corners.
@davidjones-vx9ju
@davidjones-vx9ju 5 жыл бұрын
and best way to dump your bike
@exothermal.sprocket
@exothermal.sprocket 5 жыл бұрын
@@davidjones-vx9ju Obviously, if you treat the lever light a light switch, instead of a dimmer switch. Funny how few people understand just how powerful and effective the front brake is. It can be used all the way to an apex, even while leaned over. It can be applied HARD, after the front tire contact patch has increased by weight transfer. But without practice, they will never know. For instance, the most extreme brakes on motorcycles belong to MotoGP bikes. Carbon ceramic rotors and 4 piston radial calipers. How strong is the single front tire contact patch? 177 mph to 59 mph in 5 seconds. That's 23.6mph reduced per second average. 1,100°F carbon-ceramic rotors temperature before brake-release.
@prakashdev6008
@prakashdev6008 5 жыл бұрын
The unforgiving friend: the front brake.
@exothermal.sprocket
@exothermal.sprocket 5 жыл бұрын
@@prakashdev6008 Learn some stuff. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bYOkZIGJpLSZqtE
@tracer1127
@tracer1127 4 жыл бұрын
I often trail brake into a corner. Unless you pull it on way too strong your front won’t wash away. The bike doesn’t try and sit up if you do it gently . Practicing gentle breaking into a corner means that if you do need to slow up if the unexpected happens you’ll be less inclined to grab and wash out.
@MattFellowswasHere
@MattFellowswasHere 5 жыл бұрын
As usual sir-you’re doing great great stuff here. I don’t know how we could do it but there needs to be a video on VISION. What I am seeing on rides is people really not perceiving the road correctly. A lot of times it’s really hard on unfamiliar asphalt to really understand weather + tire temps + debris + angle of attack + weight distribution (both bike and you) are HUGE factors in cornering success. A corner is, at the end of the day, an obstacle to be overcome-And how we perceive it in advance versus the reality of what is actually there is massive. How many times do we roll into a corner and it says 35 on the yellow sign-Only to find out it’s probably an 80-mile-an-hour-corner. On the flipside 25s that really should be 10-15s. Your vision and your ability to interpret what the road is doing is CRITICAL and you can’t always rely on the department of transportation. And let’s be honest you’re going to get caught out once in a while-double-apexes, blind stuff, roaming cattle-who the hell knows- so what you’re giving people here I think is quantumly important!
@CanyonChasers
@CanyonChasers 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, and yeah. No shortage on video ideas. Visual lead is so important and so nuanced.
@tommac8556
@tommac8556 3 жыл бұрын
taking it easy I reckon number 1 but hey... ahem . do learn technique from some one who knows their stuff, all those variables pure luck for me to be honest
@shrederduck
@shrederduck 5 жыл бұрын
One of the best motorcycle channels on KZbin. Great breakdown and teaching of technical aspects that make riding safer and more fun. Super informative and an incredible source of riding knowledge and wisdom. Keep up the great work!!
@viki9539
@viki9539 3 жыл бұрын
your channel improved my cornering substantially without even me meaning to do so. thanks
@hoboesque
@hoboesque 5 жыл бұрын
Very helpful. "There is no such thing as a fast line through a slow corner". And on public roads, visibility is everything. It's not about whether you're going optimum speed for the corner, the conditions, and your bike. It's about whether you're going optimum speed to deal with the unexpected popping up right in front of you.
@Herzankerkreuz67
@Herzankerkreuz67 5 жыл бұрын
I am all for this technique however on normal road riding (not one way race track) there is always the chance that an oncoming vehicle will cut the corner in you right hand curve whilst you try to ride the perfect line........🤦‍♂️ Safe rides 👍🏍
@TMCmakes
@TMCmakes 5 жыл бұрын
but your ability to adjust for this is better if you're already on the brakes during entry. note in the diagram (the blue line) that the whole time you're close to the outside line you are on the brakes, which means you can adjust your radius by further decreasing your speed while trail braking. here's video of someone coming to a complete stop in a corner when a truck consumed almost their entire lane. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mmqqlpiXZtKke5o
@scottthornton9237
@scottthornton9237 5 жыл бұрын
Very well explained and easy to understand! Thanks for posting this!
@ItsSaiyan
@ItsSaiyan 2 жыл бұрын
I completely agree and support the way of the teachings in this video Maybe possible collaboration in the future?
@UncleWally3
@UncleWally3 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, especially the parts where you anticipate (and explain) common misconceptions. As a Canadian who has made the pilgrimage to Deals Gap a dozen times over the last fifteen years. It was there I learned to really watch others learn the hard way to ride The Dragon. After riding it slowly, smoothly and skillfully, and “practicing” it well over 300 times I can now say I can truly enjoy The Dragon and breathe the fresh mountain air - at the same time. That said, after fifty years of riding long and hard on many places on the planet, I’m amazed at how many skills I have yet to identify and fully develop. This is mostly because the first twenty years of riding I just faked it and luckily made it to ride another day. For the last twenty years or so I began to privilege practice over performance; I feel I’m much better off for it, so thanks for the advice and the video . . . well done!
@GMak81
@GMak81 Жыл бұрын
You are doing a great service to the biking community with these videos. Thanks very much.
@CanyonChasers
@CanyonChasers Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoy it!
@fatihdulgeroglu9347
@fatihdulgeroglu9347 4 жыл бұрын
7:08 is the best explanation I've ever seen on Internet.
@jmcgriddle11
@jmcgriddle11 Ай бұрын
Even 4 years later, this is the best cornering video on YT.
@dumptrump3788
@dumptrump3788 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, but above all the best way to ride a corner is have the correct speed. Trail braking, yes. Hitting the Apex spot on, yes. But going through any corner as fast as you can might be a thrill, but on most rides it won't save you more than a few seconds.Can't perfect cornering?....set off 5 mins earlier & relax.
@percyfaith11
@percyfaith11 3 жыл бұрын
Apex is not something that you plan ahead of time. It's something you look back at and say "oh there's where the apex was. The apex comes naturally when you chose your entry and exit.
@raylouis6798
@raylouis6798 5 жыл бұрын
GREAT VIDEO... IT'S FUNNY. I WAS WATCHING THIS VIDEO TO SEE WHAT WAS YOUR TAKE ON CORNERING. GUESS WHAT? I WAS DOING THESE METHODS SUBCONSCIOUSLY ON JUST THE FEEL OF ME AND MY BIKE. I WAS LIKE WOW I WAS DOING THIS SAME SHIT WITHOUT EVEN KNOWING I WAS DOING IT THE RIGHT/BEST WAY. AIN'T THAT SOMETHING. ANYWAYS...
@CaptainSwoop
@CaptainSwoop 3 жыл бұрын
I've just received my learners permit. I had no idea regarding the physics involved in motorcycle handling. What a fascinating adventure this is. I salute you for taking the time to help me and your excellent, intelligent presentation. Thanks.
@JeremyUSA
@JeremyUSA 5 жыл бұрын
wow, I've watched and been through several schools and that portion where you showed the line between the apex and the exit "appear" just lit a lightbulb. Thank you for these videos! Please keep them coming. I'll keep training and taking courses. Do you teach anywhere?
@krazed0451
@krazed0451 5 жыл бұрын
"We never want to cross that centre line with our tyres, or even just our head"... I think you mean, and especially just our head, I'm quite fond of mine being attached :-/
@DanielJLopes
@DanielJLopes 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic, I've done this for years, but never understood the mechanics behind it! Thank you!
@matosur5471
@matosur5471 5 жыл бұрын
Hi from Slovakia. Excellent video and very useful explanation for all the riders! Thanks!
@jeremybly
@jeremybly 5 жыл бұрын
Your my favorite channel for tips and knowledge. I get so tired of everyone posting beginner crap. Probably because that's all most vloggers are. Keep on making vids like these! Oh i bought sport riding techniques! Great book.
@DanDanTheFireman
@DanDanTheFireman 5 жыл бұрын
I tend to make videos for beginners... Because that's my audience. I love this channel as it applies to many different experience levels.
@jeremybly
@jeremybly 5 жыл бұрын
@@DanDanTheFireman i also follow you dan dan! But yeah i get that.
@paulst6862
@paulst6862 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. I learned some of these techniques like trail braking and delayed apex by trial and error as a kid riding bicycles and racing other kids around the neighborhood. When I was old enough to ride motorcycles, I would subconsciously use these methods that transferred from riding bicycles. If it has two wheels, physics is the same.
@robertbotta6536
@robertbotta6536 3 жыл бұрын
Why are you so good? Thanks man. I will practice today.
@neopank
@neopank 5 жыл бұрын
Congrats! Love your channel, I'll keep on learning 🤓 Greetings from Spain
@dnlgrhm
@dnlgrhm 5 жыл бұрын
Your videos are always amazingly informative and this was the best!
@miguelriverocolado5202
@miguelriverocolado5202 5 жыл бұрын
Great detail for cornering, so now lets get to practice!!! Thanks.
@MikeKemp
@MikeKemp 5 жыл бұрын
Great video! Because of you I've been trying trail braking and it does make a difference. I do have a question about the example around the 10:30 mark: that apex is waaayyy around that corner. I'm assuming you're not necessarily braking all the way around that long bend, but just getting to the point with either braking/maintenance throttle before accelerating out?
@CanyonChasers
@CanyonChasers 5 жыл бұрын
Great question! If its downhill, yes you would brake almost all the way to the apex. If uphill, then you would be correct. Slow until you are comfortable with you speed then maintenance throttle until you can line up the apex and exit. Then turn and drive past the apex.
@nijumsangma3400
@nijumsangma3400 4 жыл бұрын
Great explanation, keep up the good work. Thanks.
@999999999999009
@999999999999009 5 жыл бұрын
I’ve been riding for years including many track days, and watching this video was still informative. You have a way of articulating what seasoned riders (myself included) sometimes have difficulty into words. Great job!
@AG-bw2oe
@AG-bw2oe 7 ай бұрын
Thanks. I like how you explain things.
@paulmendes9315
@paulmendes9315 3 жыл бұрын
"Most of us tend to apex too soon."
@geraldchristensen2826
@geraldchristensen2826 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great teaching video. Thanks for reminding us that Skill and Knowledge are the pathway to a long and happy life. Keep up the GREAT work!
@L3eh123
@L3eh123 5 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video. Subbed!
@wadejohnson5447
@wadejohnson5447 5 жыл бұрын
Wow! Great video! I had been hoping that at some point you would touch on the fact that we need to be very mindful of making sure that no part of our body or machine crosses over the center line. You also clarified several more advanced points about late apex cornering that helped me come away with a far better understanding of the application of the technique. Thank you! 🏍️🏍️🏍️
@roberttempest1208
@roberttempest1208 4 жыл бұрын
I enjoy and respect your channel. But I can’t help thinking - isn’t this entire pursuit of identifying the one right apex point entirely inappropriate for the commuter or recreational rider to whom “Managing a corner 0.3 seconds faster” is not only silly, but more dangerous than needed. Aren’t we best served with - Keep your lean angle, speed and position at maximum safety for as far as you can see. There’s no need for crowding the inside line near oncoming traffic, nor threatening the outside line often littered with debris for those of us not doing track time. However - I enthusiastically applaud your piece on trail breaking. I believe it can literally reduce accidents, while increasing riding enjoyment. The MSF course I took taught it as necessary to accelerate continuously from the start of a turn and all the way through. I think this is counter to safe riding, and entirely beyond the scope of and ill advised for learning riders. Nice work!
@CanyonChasers
@CanyonChasers 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly, learning how to identify and find your apexes is a massive safety benefit. Just like trail braking it may be faster, but mostly it reduces risk. It gives you a plan for every corner, it minimizes your most lean to a point where you are going the slowest and have the most grip as well, probably most importantly, putting you into a position where you are least likely to run wide; off the road or into the oncoming lane. You don't have to push your apex to within inches of the edge of the lane/road. You can be three feet away from the edge and still have a good apex.
@SM26
@SM26 5 жыл бұрын
Such a great video. Really well made, even if you know a of this stuff, the way you break it down really helps with letting it sink in. Keep it up! 💪
@robnewman19
@robnewman19 5 жыл бұрын
Another awesome video.. keep up the great work guys.. love me some Highway 12
@barriewilliams4526
@barriewilliams4526 4 жыл бұрын
Great informative video, thanks :)
@kellygoertzen849
@kellygoertzen849 4 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to thank you again for producing such great content. Quality in every way. Keep it up please! I just did a 600 mile weekend and watching this makes me want to go right back out today and carve some more.
@finallyitsed2191
@finallyitsed2191 5 жыл бұрын
I've been riding for over 50 years and have actually employed at least some of this technique, but your explanation and graphics makes it all come together. Great video! Thanks.
@soujrnr
@soujrnr 11 ай бұрын
I could never figure out why I struggled with certain turns using slow, look, crash, and burn until I learned about trail braking! I first learned about it from you, Dave, right here on Canyon Chasers! My friend turned me on to your channel some years ago, and I am hooked! Trail braking changed everything for me, and it's saved my bacon a few times as well. I don't ride a crotch rocket, but I have found that it doesn't matter. I ride a 1,000 lb. Gold Wing, but trail braking works the same. In fact, I rode "The Snake" here in northeastern Tennessee where I live, and trail braking made that experience so much more enjoyable! It's 489 turns, 3 mountains, and 1 valley. Thanks for all you do, Dave! I always look forward with great anticipation to your next video! Ride safe, sir!
@maxbreemer
@maxbreemer 5 жыл бұрын
I want that T-shirt you're wearing. (great videos btw! Love them all)
@dannykhoury85
@dannykhoury85 5 жыл бұрын
This was excellent. Thank you
@almorgan3792
@almorgan3792 5 жыл бұрын
Wow. Just...wow. great video.
@krishanmalinga6504
@krishanmalinga6504 5 жыл бұрын
Another very very educational video. Thank you canyon chasers! Keep up the good work. Best wishes from sri Lanka..❤❤❤
@Diskubredor76
@Diskubredor76 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video coach! Heneral, your subscriber from the Philippines
@hughess004
@hughess004 3 жыл бұрын
I've been riding for 45 years on various bikes, and watched countless youtube videos on motorcycling, this is one of the best videos I've ever seen on cornering. Thanks
@CanyonChasers
@CanyonChasers 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, thanks!
@Travis141123
@Travis141123 5 жыл бұрын
Counter steering, or how to out ride kids on their sporty bikes with a 1200 Sportster...
@pauljrcarty9314
@pauljrcarty9314 5 жыл бұрын
I am a cyclist in the northeast USA. I use this method to turn, there has been a few top riders who have gone down recently from not knowing the physics behind turning this this. They lose the front wheel or the back wheel kicks them off. I am a lot heavy than most cyclist taking turns a pve 24mph which helps stay mounted. One of my friends broke his helmet trying a variation of the turn. I wasn't on that ride but that might not have happened if i was aware i was being mimicked on the bicycle. Ride on!
@doesntmatter3068
@doesntmatter3068 5 жыл бұрын
Great points, I learned YEARS ago when racing dirt. This might sound a little dumb but its true. Put your eyes on the target where you want your bike to go. Your bike will follow.
@bg-zm6kv
@bg-zm6kv 5 жыл бұрын
This is an excellent video, I really appreciate the quality of your content.
@mattthomson1689
@mattthomson1689 Жыл бұрын
Solid information, as always. Having a new set of tires mounted, my thoughts turn to getting used to riding in a simpler way, namely, just enjoying the ride along with being sensitive to feedback from the new shoes. And, paying attention to the more recently found opinions and expertise regarding “contact patches “. Contact patches are dynamic, in a state of constant adaptation to changing forces, including emotional influences or absences. Apex management is yet another of those forces influencing a large, demanding and continuous response from riders. And these are things we love as riders, the exhilaration that comes from simply riding. So if you are a high-speeder explorer, please find a welcoming race track; get your license to compete in organized competitive racing and have fun. Share the public road, and please do not crash near me.
@myjizzureye
@myjizzureye 4 жыл бұрын
Great video and information.
@watworx
@watworx 5 жыл бұрын
It is safer too, especially in countries like the Philippines where public transport vehicles cut corners, seeing more of the corner allows you avoid these vehicles
@lars-erikolsen3183
@lars-erikolsen3183 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks alot for brilliant teachings, both graphics, video and words:D
@elainecalzadilla9739
@elainecalzadilla9739 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing! I love the way you explain everything! Thanks for the tips
@SunnyDarkoShow
@SunnyDarkoShow Жыл бұрын
TV Quality Content.
@iallso1
@iallso1 5 жыл бұрын
Great description, I used to have the problem of appexing too early as a result of lack of confidence. A half day cornering clinic at the local track resolved this. One other technique I was taught when riding roads for the first time is to use the environment, (telegraph poles, trees and hedges), to identify where the road might go beyond your immediate vision. This advanced warning enables you to prepare not just for the next corner but possibly for the next.
@Dreadz530
@Dreadz530 4 жыл бұрын
great video. got my sub and bell clicked!!
@CanyonChasers
@CanyonChasers 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@robnewman19
@robnewman19 5 жыл бұрын
btw, are you guys on Pateron? I'd gladly chip in some greenbacks for the top notch content you guys are putting out
@CanyonChasers
@CanyonChasers 5 жыл бұрын
We're not, but maybe we should be. I should look into it. We do have a donate button in the footer of the website (and any donations are so appreciated) ❤️
@rajdwiproy18
@rajdwiproy18 5 жыл бұрын
Work of art as always. It's amazing to see how much effort you put into each of your videos 😄😄❤️
@craig5477
@craig5477 3 жыл бұрын
Wish I’d seen this years ago. It’s the best most easily understood explanation I’ve seen. Now I have a plan for improvement
@garyjaurique5028
@garyjaurique5028 5 жыл бұрын
Is it me or does he look like a young Ron Howard. Great video though. Great 👍🏼 information
@IamJay
@IamJay 5 жыл бұрын
This helps me bro. Thanks for this video.
@jordanjoestar8839
@jordanjoestar8839 3 жыл бұрын
My quick tips as a non pro. 1. Have your body further over than the bike (in corner, at speed). So you can pull it towards you more, rather than attempt to push it down more. 2. Ease up. Tense is stiff and your inputs become very unnatural. Be loose and smooth. Smooth is fast. Relax. 3. If you think you can't make the corner, do NOT smash the brakes, very gently trail brake and TRUST YOUR MACHINE. It CAN make the corner, just be able you can too. I've panicked and it's nearly ended badly. Not until I rode less stiff, and TRUSTED the bike and myself in a corner, was I able to actually really start scraping pegs. Safe riding! Feel free to correct me or add input.
@markgiancola8973
@markgiancola8973 3 жыл бұрын
I can’t get enough of your cornering instruction. It has made my practice so much more realistic and specific. Emphasis on being a technically skilled rider. I’m excited about riding again!
@MrAloysioguimaraes
@MrAloysioguimaraes 5 жыл бұрын
Really, well-done video! Info 'n' approach. That's a perfect match.
@speedbird2166
@speedbird2166 2 жыл бұрын
Your videos are a great resource! Thank you for taking the time to make them!
@TheGeoDaddy
@TheGeoDaddy 5 жыл бұрын
Wanna bet the ‘3’ Thumbs down aren’t with us anymore???
@scott.H1100
@scott.H1100 5 жыл бұрын
That was one of the , if not the best tutorial I've ever seen on cornering with full explanations. Thumbs up 👍👍👍 all the way . Thanks I will be sharing this one 👊😎 top job !!
@andymotovlogs546
@andymotovlogs546 8 ай бұрын
I have been instinctively following this method without having heard of these technical details I suppose. So it was amusing to realise how much science I have been applying into my riding already.
@ericharding5686
@ericharding5686 Жыл бұрын
You guys are awesome. I've been watching your videos and have taken a class. I plan to take additional classes as well. I feel so much more in control than I have in the last fifty(50) years I have been riding. The classes should be mandatory. Well at least the classroom . THANKS! 12:02
@Joewylie3
@Joewylie3 5 жыл бұрын
Ace.. I learned this watching Keith Code's (California Superbike School) "A twist of the wrist" video". You may consider doing a video on "Positive steering". (People will listen to this. [If I say "counter steering" people immeadiatly change channels]). Another topic is "target fixation". How many times have we seen one rider go down and then the next rider or two visually lock on and emulate the disaster they are observing?? All the best.
@lewismingledorff6417
@lewismingledorff6417 4 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget the value of a good understanding COUNTER-STEERING
@Darkest_Soul_187
@Darkest_Soul_187 4 жыл бұрын
I'm currently half way through Nick's book and he takes trail braking to another level with ''maintenance throttle'' - adding just a little bit throttle to maintain the speed and lean angle if the corner is a bit longer than expected or uphill etc. It happened to me few times. I was mid way through a turn but slowed down too much and thought OK what now? On a new road, you don't know how fast you should enter the corner to have enough momentum that will get you to the apex because you don't know how long is the turn. And I think that's what happened in this video as well at 06:52 . You didn't see the corner exit yet but you completely let go off the brake and started accelerating because you slowed down too much. Maintenance throttle while trail braking ain't easy but I'm working on it. Maybe you could do a video on it as well? Thanks :)
@trevorb2048
@trevorb2048 3 жыл бұрын
I love your riding videos. Thank you very much! Do you have any suggestions for East Coast U.S. riding schools? Almost all the good/recommended schools seem to be out west. Thanks!
@joeybennett6833
@joeybennett6833 4 жыл бұрын
I had to "muscle" past my fear once... Came into a roundabout too hot on the inside lane, there's an SUV in my trajectory, so rather than laying the bike down or just giving up, i doubled down, pulled gently on the outside bar and LEANED! In fact I leaned SO low that I dragged a foot peg! And those things are set really high!
@D.E.X
@D.E.X 4 жыл бұрын
Okay, that has to be the best presentation of proper cornering I've ever listened to. 7:00-8:30. I've known this all for years. Twist of the Wrist II harps on it. Hell, I've been explaining it to other riders for decades, but that 90 sec clip is SO perfect! Consider yourself plagiarized.
@jids78
@jids78 4 жыл бұрын
After watching the trail breaking clips, i have been practicing it on my Buell XB12. What I found is speed=radius doesn't hold. Even though speed gets slower my buell tends to stand up which makes a wider radius. So I try to counter steer harder but my bike resists. Is it because of the Buell or i do something wrong?
@EvolvingNaturally
@EvolvingNaturally 11 ай бұрын
Ok. So doing the apex has very little to do with steering through the corner. It's about adjusting speed. Thanks
@bobjuniel8683
@bobjuniel8683 4 жыл бұрын
When we talk about cornering, remove the need for speed and do not talk about stepping on the gas. Inexperienced riders and riders on unfamiliar bikes are at high risk going too fast on corners. If the road you don’t know, go slow. It is the law in most countries that you must always travel at a speed that you can stop to avoid an accident. It is a fact that speed kills. Your diagrams and explanation do show the right path on American roads, but “Gentle ease on the throttle,” conveys a different idea to riders than “step on the gas.” In Thailand most highways have motor cycle lanes about 6’ wide on the curb or shoulder side. One just slows down and takes the large diameter path. But then most Thai motorcycles are 100cc to 150 cc and ridden under 80kph or 50mph. Weaving from the outside to the inside of the car’s lanes would be illegal and cars may pass you on the inside, angry that you are in their pathway. That may seem irrelevant until you watch American’s riding in groups road racing and showing off, passing on the inside, dying to impress! I broke my leg aged 16, 60 years ago, too fast on a corner on a BSA650. Still riding bikes.
@LINKchris87
@LINKchris87 Жыл бұрын
Just went for some extremely twisty backroads today. Had a bit of trouble tryng to find the "fast line" around a slow corner. This video is valuable material. Thank you!
@Bald_Monkey
@Bald_Monkey 4 жыл бұрын
This was simply amazing. So pristine and informative.
@brianperry
@brianperry 3 жыл бұрын
Fifty seven years of riding motorcycles has taught me that you can never stop learning. In that time I have seen /experienced new technologies :ie tyres, suspension, brakes and the geometry of the chassis,.all of which in combination is a giant leap forward. Making safe use of the afore mentioned is forever a learning curve..greeting from a Brit living in España... great video.
@BikesAndBatallas
@BikesAndBatallas Жыл бұрын
Hi fellow guiri in Spain!
@keithstarkey5584
@keithstarkey5584 4 жыл бұрын
I'm very glad I'm a slower, casual rider. I'm not interested in speeding through anything. I'd rather be able to get out of a jam quickly and efficiently than get into a jam dangerously. Thanks for the video.
@jadedparadise19
@jadedparadise19 5 жыл бұрын
Greetings from FL! Our "curved roads" are straight lines compared to those in the video. But it's nice to be able to take a concept and apply it to any corner, anywhere. Thanks for adding the visuals along with the explanation. The yellow/red/orange circle graphic helped so much! Also, my wife and I are going on a trip to Grand Canyon, Bryce, and Zion National Parks. Your last video of Utah 12 was amazing. We're definitely going to drive that... even in a rented SUV, it would be a shame to miss it. I think from Bryce, we'll drive up to Torrey and back. I would have been so mad if I had not known about it, gotten back home, and then seen the video! Keep up the good work!
@TMCmakes
@TMCmakes 5 жыл бұрын
try to set your trip up to have breakfast at Hell's Backbone Cafe in Boulder. they aren't open all year, so call and check before you go... but worth the stop.
@jadedparadise19
@jadedparadise19 5 жыл бұрын
@@TMCmakes thanks Mike! Will certainly look into it. No trip is complete without planning for good eats!
@jessestarks3128
@jessestarks3128 3 жыл бұрын
I learned the slow, look, lean and roll method when I started riding in the 90s. This makes a bit more sense. I stopped riding back in 2005 but might get back on again in the near future. I'll put this clip in my learning toolbox.
@tommac8556
@tommac8556 3 жыл бұрын
Again excellent advice, however if I can add some bog standard city safety tips. Idiots don't last.. Assuming your tyres are run in (don't talk to me) NO 1- Don't now the corner? tootle round it till you suss the curve. and send flowers to the muppet hareing past on the outsides wife. Done years of driving as a passion and a job in several cities. Diesel- it is not your friend, so approach roundabouts with caution, well duh, you might say (I would) but anywhere lorries have to stand engines running they will leak the devilish fluid, hard to spot and your bike suddenly handles like a pissed roller skate. hit this at speed you might just pick it up but generally you will slide off. * In the wet don't ride unless it is your job or know someone needing a kidney. White lines in the wet are hilariously slippy and if you want to split up with your girlfriend try a sneaky exit over the chevrons on the M1, Can't stress the oil roundabout trap enough , and if it's light rain radio in with your puncture. all the best keep 'er between the hedges.
@papasotomx
@papasotomx 5 жыл бұрын
Clearly explained, thank you. I'd like to suggest a topic for your next video: emergency braking.
@nuffflavor
@nuffflavor 4 жыл бұрын
I believe...... SPEED..... is the key factor. Incorrect speed leads to issues on every aspect he just mentioned evolving corners. If you are not good on corners, then slow your speed BEFORE entering a corner. Many corners have the corner's speed posted...... drop 5-10mph below that posting and you should be good no matter what lean/apex/entrance or exit you make.
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