Cap and Ball Revolver: Round Ball vs Conical Bullet

[@PaulHarrell]

Those are mule deer in the background. I was shooting 30 grains of FFFg for both because in my revolver it's an accurate charge and it's the max charge that will allow the conical bullet to fit.

[@yugen]

Paul, long time fan here, perhaps you recognize my name. I noticed you very slowly lower the gun before each shot. Is this something you do intentionally or instinctively? Judging by your ability to shoot so well, it seems to be an effective technique and it intrigues me. It makes sense, you gently (or naturally) decrease the tension in your shoulders or arms or back, seems much more stable and reliable than say trying to slowly raise the gun as this would require activating/contracting said muscles which I would imagine would lead to much less controlled movement.

[@PaulHarrell]

@@yugen It may be a matter of getting clothing out of the way.

[@Crogon]

I found it interesting that you didn't mention the difference in percussive force applied to the target. I know you mentioned that the foot pounds on target were significantly different, but you didn't mention it after the meat target. The conical projectiles knocked the meat target clean off of the table. Do you suppose that would make a difference, say if you were deer hunting? ..perhaps obliterating a whole lung, instead of just punching a hole through it?

[@PaulHarrell]

@@Crogon Pushing the target off the table had more to do with the orientation of the target, and how it was sitting on the table than with the amount of force.

[@Crogon]

@@PaulHarrell Interesting.. thanks for the response! greatly appreciated. :)

[@bizzimartini]

"The most arduous, difficult and time consuming presentation I've ever filmed" And we greatly appreciate all your and the teams efforts.

[@derekp2674]

Yes indeed. Thanks Paul and crew for another really informative and entertaining video.

[@Bang4YerBuck]

Thanks for making this particular video. I was considering casting conical bullets as I have never seen them for sale & figured they would offer more accuracy. Time will better be spent loading more 44 Mag.

[@JesusOnlySavesEternally]

You are most welcome. And yes, we’re still here...

[@capitalismsucks5819]

Paul is his own crew

[@duxdawg]

We surely do! Thanks Mr Harrell, et al!!!

[@BC-pv9gn]

You know the ammo shortage is getting bad when Paul starts doing Black Powder reviews.

[@hasdrubal121]

.......what you don't realise is that Paul has stacks of raw material at home for making the projectiles.....from all the Terminators that have been sent back to take him out..........my money's on Harrell.

[@jamesstaley5611]

Just try to find some percussion caps.

[@thesmallestminorityisthein4045]

Ive wanted 2 1858s for a while, one Army and one Navy, and that was befofe the ammo issues. Problem is I have nowhere to shoot them. Only range close by is an indoor, and I guarentee they wont let me shoot em even with BP substitute.

[@mqL49J]

Few months and we'll be down to sticks and stones.

[@JohnSmith-fq3rg]

@@thesmallestminorityisthein4045 If they are actively ventilated I can't see one shot a minute being a problem unless that place is cramped and full of other shooters. Never hurts to ask, especially when it's a slow day.

[@hunterfisher2112]

I'd be happy if my shot group was made up of Paul's fliers

[@inhumanfilth681]

Im sure we could all get there if we could afford to shoot as often as he does

[@SilverSquirrel]

All his flyers in in the same two inch group. He really only has one flyer.

[@Orange_pickles]

All it takes is practice and dedication.

[@Hjerte_Verke]

You need more range time and maybe some class instruction, eh?

[@saskafrass1985]

To quote the Marlboro Man, " I read the book, it came with the gun."

[@plepgeat]

"Projectiles that I molded myself BY GLARING AT PIECES OF LEAD UNTIL THEY OBEYED."

[@johnbeauvais3159]

He just stares at an ingot until it makes itself into neat little projectiles

[@bryanmcdermott4204]

I assume he mined the lead as well.

[@phild8095]

@@bryanmcdermott4204 most of us have lint in out pockets, I think Paul has lead.

[@ChristopherKnN]

He just picks up previously fired projectiles and squeezes them into shape, recycling from previous range time.

[@Taistelukalkkuna]

@@ChristopherKnN And he wears gloves while doing that. Because lead might get Paul Harrell poisoning.

[@MPGunther1]

Paul calls them "flyers" I call 'em "thank god I hit the paper"

[@davidw835]

His fliers i call, wow I had my best shot!!!

[@adamr9720]

Yes me too and remember, in his own words he’s an ‘average shooter’. 😀I wish I was that average.

[@RetiredRhetoricalWarhorse]

Come on, his shots aren't that impressive... I can do that with my modern pistol at 5 meters, easy! :D

[@jackkomorowski2722]

I would agree with that statement." Group? What group? I'm on paper!":-)

[@GovtWatchdog]

When he has a misfire you can see no flinching whatsoever.

[@Hjerte_Verke]

Sorry to hear that you're a flincher. Best get out to the range some more, eh?

[@maxpinson5002]

IDK, but I think the misfires may actually have been empty chambers left that way on purpose, but again, I don't know that for sure

[@secktur8279]

Yeah SpecWar has a tendency to make you a cool cucumber

[@norman_sage2528]

Shouldn't you count to ten before advancing the cylinder? This isn't a battle field.

[@vermonter8696]

@@norman_sage2528 It happened more than once, he only loaded 5 of the six cylinders. It's a common safety thing with black powder firearms, a lot of modern reproductions are safe to carry hammer down on a loaded chamber but Paul may prefer to always do things the same way to avoid a moment of negligence with guns that can't be carried on a loaded cylinder. Or tbh he may prefer a 5 shot group.

[@barronkistler1196]

So basically Paul admits he did this presentation because no one else wanted to because it's a royal pain in the ass. Beautiful job and never disappointed with your presentations. No task too hard for Paul Harrell.

[@rob.3575]

Even worse than the .22LR reliability video, which had to be a royal pain in the ass in it's own right lol.

[@burtbiggum499]

Well he spent decades in the military which is fucking full of that kind of work

[@saskafrass1985]

I still like this information. It's just as informative as watching the super duper spire point gold dot critical custom compared to whatever green and white box. Thank you Paul Harrell.

[@jimpaull731]

Baron kistler= not necessarily, he just pointed out how we can talk somewhat respectfully to "that guy" or member that still digs that

[@TheWolfsnack]

....no one except perhaps Karl Kasarda a week ago...although to be fair, he was more focused on historical accuracy and ease of reloading... :)

[@caccomacaco]

Paul won't admit it but on the second target he was playing tic tac toe.

[@Tyrfingr]

@@JCE3000GT Sometimes i'm left feeling unsatisfied over things like that

[@slateslavens]

He didn't hit the 'X', but that thing was _terrified..._

[@steimystein4368]

I almost thought he was circulating around that X on purpose....

[@mr.happyfunguy3772]

Paul: I’m an average shooter Also Paul: Literally a professional

[@Hjerte_Verke]

Those two terms are not mutually exclusive so I'm not sure what you're trying to imply, except being cheeky in some way. Ah, 'tis the nature of Youtoob comments in this here 21st century. Very cookie-cutter of you :^)

[@TurinTuramber]

Just been modest.

[@moderatemexicanamericanpat4904]

Your emoji pfp is perfect for your comment

[@TheUberHammer]

@@Hjerte_Verke Ok.

[@sombra6153]

That’s like Continental army General Dan Morgan telling the crown all Americans shot as well as he did...

[@noraye2500]

No one dared to ask his business, no one dared to make a slip For the stranger there among them had a big iron on his hip _(big iron on his hiiiiiiiiip)_

[@imfromthegovandimheretohelp]

Was waiting for this comment

[@noraye2500]

@@imfromthegovandimheretohelp i aim to please my fellow memers 👍

[@maxcactus7]

Positively LOVE Marty Robbins. My kids were raised listening to his gun fighters ballads CD. Many happy memories.

[@texasredhimself]

*Sweats nervously*

[@mikecampbell5856]

Absolutely love that song. Marty Robbins could really tell a story.

[@japlin5908]

The mule deer in the background were cool. I've actually have had whitetails come out of the woods to stand there to see what I was shooting...lol. Another great video, Paul. Thanks.

[@slimjim7411]

Yup if you really want to draw them run a chainsaw too.

[@philllax1719]

My deer hunting property borders a range, its amazing how used to gunfire they get

[@thedeathwobblechannel6539]

I keep looking for bigfoot sneaking around in the background .

[@wolf762x51]

I built a berm behind my house, and they started feeding in between it and my shooting line. I had to shoe a buck away. Of course this was not during hunting season. They never showed during that time. That leads to the theory that they put on disguises, hotwire some dude's old beater truck, and drive to a local convenience store and pick up a copy of the DNR books with the schedules in them.

[@richardpfeiffer5179]

Some friends and I were in the woods in Idaho target practicing, and sighting in a 30-96 rifle, when a black bear walked between us and the target. The bear just looked at us and kept walking parallel to our shooting table...LOL

[@crominion6045]

10:16 Deer in the background: "We out!" 😄

[@beargillium2369]

Nice spot!

[@MrPotatochips4]

thanks for that :D

[@chrisjones6002]

Good eye.

[@ImmaSaveUFromMe]

Good eye!

[@casualobserver3145]

Good eyes! I rewatched and I think I saw two.

[@rodrigoroaduterte9415]

First 3 round ball shots and I start to think: “Are you kidding?!” :)

[@nikolajc7617]

You are kiddiing with your name.

[@imfromthegovandimheretohelp]

@@nikolajc7617 you know ammo availability is bad when he makes a video on black powder revolver projectiles

[@donnyarmstrong9559]

These pistols are just as accurate as any other pistol. Don't underestimate!

[@retailwarrior1502]

Yeah I was starting to think he was deliberately going around the X.

[@seethebutter]

Amazing.

[@johnkenson1699]

I'm so glad he did the meat target with this one

[@aquablue6301]

How does Paul fit a small arms factory, a Cabellas, ammo plant and a grocery store into that shooting jacket? Thanks again Paul for the great content and knowledge!

[@Kaliburz]

His jacket is like the Tardis...

[@jd9119]

Sears don't make 'em like they used to.

[@johnlewan1114]

Rumor has it he has storage spaces for rent in there

[@ScottKenny1978]

You familiar with the "bag of holding" from D&D?

[@cameronalexander359]

He's only been gone a few days now, but I already miss the big fella. 😢

[@exotericidymnic3530]

I would be interested in a presentation on the effectiveness of flat nose projectiles in common defensive calibers like 45 acp 40 sw 9mm 380 acp and 357 magnum

[@pebo8306]

From experience;Hardly any difference to round nose.Even the famous Elmar Keith Semi-Wadcutters do not have any additional benefit!--Why? bullets for muzzleoaders are from soft pure lead,that will flatten;bullets for modern calibers are either jacketed or hard-cast lead;which, both, nearly do not expand at all!

[@pebo8306]

@Name BS! In 9mm the Hornady Flat Nose was/is decidedly more accurate than the usual ogive bullets;but they did not have any more stopping power!

[@charlesmiller6826]

Like wad cutters?

[@KathrynLiz1]

I shoot 200gr LSWCs in my 1911....for target work..... being almost pure lead, they would be really nasty on a "meat target"..... Those 200 grainers do similar velocities to my 200gr Conicals in my Remington percussion revolvers (around 1000fps) and I see no reason for he terminal effect to be significantly different between the two. I'd certainly not feel undergunned with my BP revolvers compared to my 1911, although the Remington only holds six rounds (one or two less than the 1911), but if I have a loaded and capped spare cylinder handy, I can change the cylinders in about 6 or 7 seconds and be ready to go again... slower than a mag change, but in the real world, not that much difference.

[@justinnash1602]

@@KathrynLiz1 I wouldn't want to be on the receiving end of either one. 😕

[@mrpibb7781]

Whenever Paul points at himself and references "the average shooter", I understand the point he's making but I still think to myself well if he's average then I must be the equivalent of a corpse

[@aberj]

ummm that's makes the two of us. I am amazed at what this man can do with a firearm.

[@mrdinme.4768]

Ahh, me three! Lol

[@KathrynLiz1]

Yes he is a remarkably good shot with anything that goes bang. He almost always shoots offhand at the shorter ranges and always manages to build enviable groups....... would that I were that "average"... LOL

[@charleswade2716]

Me four.

[@MarkJacksonGaming]

-- You ask a truly great Chess player if they're any good, every single one of them is going to say, 'I'm alright'.

[@nbt3663]

"Looks like a crapy weather day tomorrow for the range, boss" "Great! Let's get some filming done!"

[@DANO-4899]

Paul's a Marine. If it ain't raining, it ain't training.

[@Broken_Yugo]

You tend to get the place to yourself that way.

[@patricktitan4241]

Oregonians

[@sarcasticnacho473]

Black powder firearm as well, rain or shine means just that.

[@greg3275rt]

I don't even bother bringing up the weather to Paul anymore.

[@Lazerrus]

Other youtubers " I cant make a vid it's raining!" Paul Harrel "hit record"

[@ramenpriest8312]

“Bring me my spongebob pants”

[@hunterbradford2697]

Paul saying he's an average shooter is like saying a turtles the fastest animal

[@ulfhedtyrsson]

Like saying demo ranch isn't autistic af

[@tommothedog]

So you are saying thet he is bad?

[@edwalmsley1401]

Now that depends how you accelerate said turtle

[@PieAndChips]

@@ulfhedtyrsson I like the part where he forgets to take his ritalin and he starts violently shaking his head whilst making weird gutteral screams

[@JohnLloydScharf]

I am sure PH has a more competent crew of buddies he competes with when he says that. He may be average for Umatilla County.

[@genemiller4148]

Your diligence is appreciated Paul. The mark of a true professional.

[@sadwingsraging3044]

At some point the weather will submit and succumb to Paul and leave him alone after it exhausts itself trying.

[@nonokodog622]

I finally bought some Swiss powder and holy shit...The report is significantly louder as well as a sharper recoil. I haven't chronographed the difference but I'm sure it's more powerful than Goex. Jake at Everything Black Powder has probably done a chrono test.

[@justkf2things443]

Paul still using the Meat target like a champ. Sack of Oranges, pork chop pectoral, and the high tech fleece bullet stop.

[@ratagris21]

It's very high tech!!!!

[@xPumaFangx]

Well at least the meat target doesn't complain. UnLike other meat targets.

[@sweetdrahthaar7951]

His local butcher loves it when he sees Paul come in.

[@Marcus_972]

The more I think on it the more I understand why he uses it and not gel. I do still like to see gel for side by side comp of rounds but as far as “what does it really do” his method is far superior to gel.

[@BPS10-Ga]

"New and improved" fleece bullet stop.

[@bobjordan8283]

For most people shooting black powder anything would be a time consuming process and royal pain in the tuchas! Somehow Paul made it fun educational and made me want to dust off my 50 caliber black powder rifle and shoot it again! Thank you sir love your channel best one out there!

[@rdt417]

You got that right. Im always weighting for the next notification.

[@RockyMountainWest13]

Tuchas… haven’t heard that one in awhile. Going to reintroduce that into my vocabulary.

[@gregusmc2868]

I know I speak for many of us out here when I say THANK YOU for your dedication and willingness to put your time energy into these videos. My day always improves when I see you’ve posted another video Mr. Harrell. Semper Fi.

[@makarios5946]

Thanks for the video. Modern guns are quite difficult to get here, while such revolvers are under almost no regulations.

[@YeahBuck36]

I requested this presentation a while back, and it just so happens to get published on my son's birthday. Thanks Paul!

[@locandro1]

So glad he includes black powder videos.

[@r0ast5_61]

Thank you for the presentation Paul. As I was under 21, I've kept a steel frame 5.5 inch barrel .44 1851, loaded with 6 shots of .454 round balls on 32 gr of Pyrodex, under my pillow for years now. Now that I'm 21, I am finally going to be getting an auto loader. This is very helpful for those of us who couldn't get normal cartridge guns, whether it be age restrictions or just strict laws.

[@maxhearld1035]

Reside in power paul, it is never truly over

[@chrisshoopman7880]

Normally have no interest in black powder but stuck around awhile since Paul was doing the talking. Guess I should learn since that's the only kind we'll be allowed to own soon.

[@NewsNowHouston]

Infrequently I carry a BP revolver for defensive purposes. I use a hard cast 180 he SWC. In my testing it’s given good results-averaging 850 FPS over 30gr of 777 out of a 5” barrel. Same load sucks out of my 3” Avenging Angel..so that one gets round ball

[@franklinAll8735]

that's weird. You should be getting 1000ish fps with that charge and projectile weight.

[@NewsNowHouston]

It’s the short barrel. Kills the velocity. But don’t get the wrong idea-I would not want to get perforated with it.

[@MrHrKaidoOjamaaVKJV]

One of my customers loaded my 240 grain Universal Bullets in his Pietta 3 inch 1851 Avenging Angel Which had a 30 grain charge of Pyrodex P. The 240 grain RFN Universal Bullets were cast of hard Clip On Wheel Weights. Loaded with a Tower of Power. Within 20 yards he shot into an Oak tree. Later he cut open the area of tree and retreived the bullet which penetrated 5 inches into the Oak tree.

[@NewsNowHouston]

@@MrHrKaidoOjamaaVKJV mine are lighter and a swc profile. They get good penetration but more importantly, they make a cookie cutter hole going in. That makes for rapid fluid (blood) loss. While I d love a good JHP-in a Bp revolver your not gonna get enough velocity to ensure expansion. So the swc is next best thing. Which gets me to thinking-how about a .44 cal 160-170gr full wadcutter or hollow base wadcutter. Should still get good velocity, reasonable penetration and a nice clean cut at point of entry. 🤠

[@MrHrKaidoOjamaaVKJV]

@@NewsNowHouston You coined it correctly in Handgun projectiles especially percussion revolvers, the RFN bullet design is the best most effective devastating Type of projectile. My 220 grain 44/45 caliber Kaido Ojamaa-VKV 220-457 Universal Bullets do everything your searching for in a bullet for percussion cap&ball revolvers and more.

[@pinsandscrews6459]

"Weather, though it usually doesn't prevent us from filming" and I can say I absolutely appreciate the effort you go to when filming in adverse weather!

[@kaeji_namitsua]

ASMR | Forest rain, wind, talking, shooting | STUDY | RELAX

[@donscheid97]

When I used to hunt/shoot with black powder, I learned a lot about bullet style, velocity, and rate of spin that also translates to modern guns and ammo. Round ball needs a longer twist but I won't bore (pun?) you with details since you probably already know it. I really enjoy smoke poles and miss them at times.

[@BogeyTheBear]

Old Italian repros have a slower twist 'cuz they figured customers were just going to use round ball (if they use a projectile at all-- remember these companies started up to supply reenactors). Then folks graduated to casting conical bullets (modern or historical) and those 1 in 30" twists weren't working. Nowawdays they're 1 in 16 to give conicals better accuracy.

[@jeffersondavis2530]

Finally an answer to an old question. Thank you.

[@imjusttoodissgusted5620]

Those Ruger Old Army's are the finest BP revolver ever made. I love mine, even with a slightly pitted barrel (i bought it used), it is still as accurate as ever. best part is when you cock the hammer is goes Click,,,,,Click,,Click.

[@vitoscaletta7151]

Well, I hope they're the best They were made over a century after most traditional designs Lol

[@tkerska30023]

I wanted one back in 83 they were about $275, now i payed $700 for a used on and i was very happy to get that one, it was just dumb luck!

[@cristianespinal9917]

Really wish Ruger would make them again along with factory conversion cylinders. That'd be some awesome versatility.

[@w.p.958]

I agree, very solid and well built black powder revolvers. Some say they are the best design of a black powder revolver ever made. I bought mine new in 1986 because I was under 21 and could not buy ammo and this allowed me to shoot regularly while in the military at a private range. I packed it up in storage in 1994 and just got it back from my parents house and cleaned it up in Dec. 2020. Just in time for the ammo shortage! By the way, I used Rig on the gun to preserve it and it looked like new once I cleaned the grease off. I will swear by Rig from now on!

[@brakk727]

Even with all the headaches, I would still take a Walker over the Ruger. It was the most powerful hand gun for almost 100 years and is still more powerful than anything that isn’t a Magnum.

[@luketaft893]

Cant think of anything fun or engaging. Just leaving a comment for the algorithm. Another great video.

[@lomoholga]

If only other people were as honest as you

[@larrydavis9851]

If I spoke half as well as Paul does in front of a camera, I'd be making a living at it! He breaks down information so simply, analytically, and consistently. I love the material and the delivery of the commentary! Keep it up, Paul!

[@paulgrogan8032]

Wow, I wasn't expecting results like that👍. Oh and Paul..."PLEASE" never again refer to yourself as a "average-shooter"🙏

[@takingbacktoxic7898]

Its a good day when "gun dad" gives us a life lesson. I was always curious if switching to conical would be worth it.

[@brakk727]

If you are asking about the price, a pound of lead cost around $3.25 a pound. 100 Hornady round balls are about a pound. A lot to invest into the mold, lead, and melter. But the cost goes down a lot. I only shoot conicals out of my Dragoon, but round balls out of my Remington New Model Army.

[@brandonjohnson3451]

I love that this presentation was finally done. I bought two 1851 navy's one with a five inch barrel and one with a eight inch barrel and I've come to find the balls are still available unlike 9mm 380 22lr and 45acp. And still a box of one hundred balls at fifteen dollars at most. I'm still exploring the legal side of it all but it did solve the scared feeling of being defenseless because I only have enough ammo for a few mags for all my other guns because I've never been a hoarder.

[@davidgates1122]

I'm not into black powder stuff . . . but when it is Paul presenting, it is worth a watch.

[@Shatanah]

Rest in peace brother

[@curtwhite876]

I was ssssooooo hoping for that 4th round ball to hit at 6 o'clock... oh well, still great stuff.

[@kokocostanza2036]

I think we all were disappointed when it hit at 7

[@ManetInAEternum]

Right!! In my head I'm like "c'mon, c'mon, c'mon"

[@altruisticscoundrel]

Who else spotted the deer at 10:10, over Paul's left shoulder? They high tailed it as when the shootin started...great strategy to employ.

[@scottcrawford3745]

Yup. At 10:01 there's 1 looking right at the camera... then they bounce away casually when he starts shooting. Very cool. Made me snicker. They must have known they were out-of-season... Wabbit Season!

[@andytopley314]

I could honestly watch an hour or two of Paul talking on pretty much any subject, but what I really want is a couple of hours on the development of firearms in the black powder era, with or without demonstrations 'coz I find the subject fascinating and I'm sure Paul would be very informative on that.

[@demezon6572]

Andy, I second your suggestion. --- Paul, pretty please do the talk on YOUR experiences with black powder weapons.

[@tonydeaton1967]

I've learned a bunch from this guy.

[@STdoubleDs]

I come for the shooting jacket. I stay for the meat target.

[@celebmrk9]

Always a show stopper! Gotta’ watch Paul...period!

[@howardwinter3455]

As usual , very well done. The heavier bullet printed higher because it spent longer (time wise) in the barrel. The forces of recoil (newton law of motion) being equal.

[@elpatricio3944]

Thank you Mr. Harrell for the presentation

[@clintwestwood1895]

This is exactly what I wanted to see. You wanted to see this even if you don't know it, trust Pauley.

[@mikeg6044]

Three observations: 1. I thoroughly enjoyed this video 2. I have no interest in ever owning a cap and ball revolver, and I still thoroughly enjoyed this video 3. Paul is a machine! Those groups at 20 yards were amazing, and I half-expected a smiley face on the second group

[@JJoker69]

Gotta wait for the smoke to clear...... That's what I do when I tell the wife about another purchase.... Great video

[@jackkomorowski2722]

Man, I got that t-shirt!

[@donnyarmstrong9559]

OK, this is something I can relate to! I too have an Old Army, love the thing, and no its not for sale, you will have to talk with my kid when the time comes! I also have done very similar testing in my history with this awesome pistol, and I have found that my pistol seems to favor round balls over the cast conical bullets for paper targets, but when hunting with this pistol, yes I have hunted successfully with it a few times, I do prefer that harder punch that the conical projectiles provide. Thank You Paul for taking the time to do this testing, I am all too familiar with the time consuming task of reloading as well as the mechanical frustrations (darned #10 caps) that come with the territory when you use one of these awesome pistols!

[@darthhodges]

When conical bullets were introduced and used in muzzle-loading RIFLES users noticed significant if not dramatic improvements in accuracy at long range. The fact that such differences are not apparent here is a testament to the inherent differences between pistols and rifles and how they are used.

[@ipodhty]

I think there might be some help to conical vs round balls, but a well fitting patched round ball is plenty accurate. The big change came from a smooth bore compared to a rifle that using mini balls could be loaded as fast as a smooth bore

[@sisleymichael]

You are talking my language Paul. I cut some willow in the fall. I just put a load in my cooker and making another batch of powder. When I was young and running my coon dogs, I carried a 36 cal Navy replica cap and ball. I was allowed to carry a reduced load. Good enough to pop a coon in the head and knock them out of a tree. It would not break the hide. Kept me in jeans and boots all year. In those days, $25 for a big hide. Black powder is awesome, pain to clean. Oh well. It works. I knew old timers that carried cap and ball revolvers concealed when they went to town, when I was a kid. Love the video. As always, a very good one.

[@ant2011]

Paul is the "America's Test Kitchen" of the gun world.

[@crankygunreviews]

Thanks for the lengthy, arduous and difficult presentation!

[@cptsmkwgn]

Traditional conicals often don’t do as much soft tissue damage because their long noses don’t cut through like a RB; Kaido Ojamaa has designed RFN conicals for C&B revolvers, however, that address this issue. I’d love to see a video comparing the traditional conical to Kaido’s. His bullets have found much favor among BP hunters

[@you_dont_know_me6583]

I use a 200gn hp made for a 45 acp

[@rugeruwu1529]

Thank you for your presentations, they allways help me get by day to day.

[@Barely_Outdoors]

I hope you are not hinting at the future of this country’s ammo crisis with doing this video! Enjoyed it as always.

[@DevinAlden]

I thought cap and ball was going to be what I was going to be shooting alot of this year....but I can't find caps at all....so now I think it's time for flintlocks

[@DevinAlden]

@Name don't say that out loud everyone will be buying up all of the arrows and marbles now

[@MrLeo7627]

I can't find wheel weights anywhere ! ; )

[@andrzejsobanski6752]

@@DevinAlden You can reload caps with matches.

[@farklefuster6876]

Where I live you have a hard time finding black powder supplies.

[@jalan8171]

Superb editing for such an extended shoot. Reading through the chapter on Cap & Ball revolvers in Elmer Keith's book SIXGUNS, Keith had a lot of respect for the older wheel guns. Early in his life he knew a number of men that used those weapons from the previous century. A previous presentation made by Paul six years ago makes for a good primer on the loading and shooting of C & B revolvers; highly recommend it.

[@aberj]

Me: Wanting nothing Paul: let me do a presentation of ball vs bullet. Paul is truly the man.

[@jeffnelson1672]

Thank you, Paul, for all your efforts. It's very much appreciated. I have wondered about this very question for a long time, and you answered it. Also, the speeds were surprising - not as slow as people think they are.

[@amorphoussolid8512]

Would love a handloading tips and tricks presentation with maybe a "hot or not" aspect to handloading. As always my day has been improved by the lack of nonsense. Thank you

[@mattevans-koch9353]

Thank you Paul for sticking it out and putting together this video. I had a Navy Arms, 1858 Remington revolver in .44 caliber many years ago and it was the most relaxing and fun way to spend a day out in the field. Hunting jack rabbits with a cap and ball revolver is mostly an exercise in loading and unloading it, but what fun! Take care and thank yo again.

[@althill7407]

Paul giving the people what they want

[@brandons9398]

Thanks for sharing more information on the subject I have discussed frequently with friends. Unfortunately we have never had the opportunity to test it out. That’s why I am super glad you were here Paul!

[@rudysmachine1]

You should try using the Kaido LFN bullet series. They have been used to cleanly take wild boar, deer and even a 2000lb bull that went crazy and dropped each animal cleanly with a single shot out of percussion revolvers.. the Kaido bullets are the pinnacle of conical bullets for percussion guns made today.

[@tombaker2523]

Two years later just watched the video a lot to take away from your comparison thankyou something I've been noticing in alot of comparison videos the heavier loads tend to make the difference in the higher grouping I see the barrel raise considerable to the lighter load, again thank you and God bless.😊

[@WadeQuick]

so, when the smoke clears....

[@charleswade2716]

Thank You Mr. Harrell. Looking forward to your next video. Really.

[@afinoxi]

I would've thought for conical to have greater accuracy but I was wrong it seems

[@pebo8306]

It is known,that the conical have a tendency to be seated "off"-bore,when rammed in;additionally Paul does not seem to be a good bullet-caster;I was shocked,when he called the various weights of the bullets.

[@grunt1807]

Not with a revolver at short distances. At longer ranges, with a rifled barrel, the difference is huge.

[@tommylitchfield3450]

Most likely, the rifling twist was optimized for round balls. There is a big difference in rate of twist for a round ball and an elongated bullet. Like 1 turn in 60 inches vs 1 turn in 24, for instance. The patched round ball needs a really slow rate of twist, or accuracy just disappears. More people shoot round balls, so the gun makers compensate. A 1 in 48 twist or thereabouts is a good compromise for both, but not optimized for either. Hope this helps

[@Ijusthopeitsquick]

@@tommylitchfield3450 I never heard of anyone using patched balls in a BP revolver. Also, civil war era revolvers were nearly always used with conical bullets in paper cartridges.

[@filianablanxart8305]

1. It varies from individual gun to individual gun , and how much effort you put into respective load development . 2. Original Guns used Gain Twist Rifling , replicas use conventional twist .

[@tonylayfield8750]

Quite the most informative / educational guns & ammo channel on KZbin. Bravo Paul !!

[@karsonbranham3900]

Pretty good printing with that piece! I read an excerpt from a union civil war cavalry officer who stated that though conical were heavier, that a “round ball would take the fight out of a man faster”.

[@tommylitchfield3450]

Wild Bill died with a brace of 1851 Navy pistols on his belt. He thought the round ball .36 was the best tool for the job, even after the .45 and 44-40 were common.

[@rick-kx7gy]

As " arduous , difficult , & time consuming " as this presentation surely was , I for one am very grateful for the knowledge it provided . Thanks Paul .

[@komitadjie]

I did NOT expect the roundballs to be anything like that accurate, coming from having only shot roundball out of a colt reproduction before. As usual, your pistol shooting is top notch, I wish I could be that consistently good with my 1911. If nothing else, this has definitely made a good show of black powder still being totally capable of darn good performance in the right hands. Wish cleaning after it wasn't quite such a pain.

[@louisbecker5941]

Mother Nature: "I'm gonna rain on Paul's parade." Paul: 🖕🏼

[@barronkistler1196]

Kinda want to see Paul pull up on a snowmobile to the range/land to shoot on haha

[@rob.3575]

It's not a proper Paul Harrell video without rain or snow.

[@brabhamfreaman166]

@@barronkistler1196 Not likely - not ‘Classic’ enough. Sled pulled by those horses he calls dogs (or a dozen huskies) much more probable.

[@311g]

One of your best videos. I love it when they get right to the point with objective analysis.

[@iboopedyournose]

I’m curious Paul: If you used a black powder rifle, would the conical bullet make a large difference in accuracy? And if you had a more consistent grain (I doubt a few grains makes a large difference) cast conical bullet selection, would it be more accurate or have a better velocity (with a rifle)?

[@ironhead2008]

I suspect it'll depend on the twist rate of the barrel. Faster twist, I suspect Minie balls will work better (they'll also be much faster to load, which is why they replaced round balls in long arms). Slower twist, properly sized round balls will work better I think (much more velocity, but slower to load because you're engraving the rifling on the ball when you ram it down). You don't see much of an accuracy difference in the Ruger because of the shorter distances (which is why round balls hung around longer in pistols).

[@bullthrush]

1 in 66 barrel = round ball probably most accurate, 1 in 48 barrel = cast bullet, 1 in 28 or faster = sabot with modern bullet.

[@richarddixon7276]

Good questions , I hope he reads this and makes that video .

[@jackkomorowski2722]

That would make a good video. What would you use for the rifle?

[@filianablanxart8305]

@@bullthrush Close . ( And it varies somewhat with bore diameter ). But the rule of thumb : 1:66. Round Ball 1: 48 Compromise Twist popularized by T/C in start of modern replica era in 1960's to be reasonably acceptable with both RB and conventional Conicals . 1:28 Conventional Conicals on purpose 1:20 Sabots , or the extra long Conicals for specialized .45cal hunting inlines .

[@johnladd9885]

A beautiful revolver and great content.. thanks for still bringing us content during all the ammo crises and other stuff going on..

[@crucifyrobinhood]

Nice demonstration Paul. I've always wondered about the difference between the two and if it was worth the effort to mold conicals. Now to see some .36 cal. conicals in a .44 sabot or (yeah, I know) saboted .30 cal spitzers...Or are sabots from a wheelgun just asking for trouble?

[@jamesweaver1133]

I haven't seen any black powder pistols fired in a very long time. Thankyou Paul for this video, watching this made my evening a lot better.

[@bryanmcdermott4204]

"My very first pistol was a cap and ball Colt, Shoot as fast as lightening, But she loads a mite slow " - Steve Earle

[@tommylitchfield3450]

The Devil's Right Hand!

[@1978garfield]

Can get you in trouble but can't get ya out.

[@mylesjordan9970]

I really appreciate Paul’s ability to explain things clearly and succinctly

[@2020Max1]

10:18 Deer in the background: "NOPE! this isn't the right place.....

[@denisdegamon8224]

As usual Mr. Harrell's videos are exceptional. You sir are a true professional and one of the best on Utube.

[@2Years2Farm]

If you don’t make a podcast about all your “boring 1 hour talks” I’ll physically YEET myself out of existence.

[@jeremyfisher8512]

Whenever I have a question I just search it up and paul harrel has a very in depth video ready for me every time

[@muwuny]

Size of the group is precision, location of the group is accuracy.

[@waynehendrix4806]

I learned the difference between "accuracy" and "repeatability" years ago, while trying to get an honest answer from a robot manufacturer. They will hide under a blanket to avoid the term "accuracy". Size of a group is referred to as repeatability. Location on first attempt is known as accuracy. Statistically it's CP , vs CPK. Fortunately they also make vision systems to compensate for a little of both.

[@brucejanacek6263]

It is sighted in with round ball. Glad you pointed that out. Paul is awesome. Answering questions I didn’t know I had.

[@Lucas12v]

I hope Paul is just being modest when he calls himself an average shooter. Otherwise, me and my friends really stink lol. Just kidding of course, everyone knows Paul is an excellent shot.

[@jimmysails994]

Thoroughly enjoyed your presentation on this topic. Thanks.

[@joeydayton8116]

“I’m shooting off hand at 20 yards” -hits decent groups on both Viewer- “you sure that’s 20 yards and not feet?”

[@norman_sage2528]

I though it was a bit much. He did have assume sights.

[@richardfeynman5560]

Great presentation! I always love simply to listen to Paul Harrell, he can present the most boring things in a way that they are interesting and exciting.