Capcom VS Konami - Game Sack

[@GameSack]

Do you agree with the verdict? Disagree? Tell us about it!

[@mix3k818]

Game Sack I'm just happy I see a new Game Sack video, I don't care about the verdict.

[@utnapishtim23]

I think Joe kind of hit the nail on the head for me. Both great libraries, but Capcom has a slight edge with the level of impact that their games have. Great video, guys!

[@zoiks6631]

I have not yet watched the video, so I’m posting while shaking my fist at the screen in disagreement. How dare you?

[@TXWC4Life]

Capcom all the way! Soooooo many great games across all generations. Respect to Konami's past, which was fantastic, but Capcom has got this one.

[@LegendarySuperMario]

I absolutely agree... Capcom made the hugely overshadowed Mega Man 7 and the awesome Ghouls N' Ghosts. But both companies made many of my favorite games growing up and I play many of them still to this day. Awesome video guys!

[@DynamicSheep]

10:11 "And who could forget about the Silent Hill franchise" Konami, apparently.

[@douglasrunellicecon]

Lol

[@douglasrunellicecon]

Hahahahahhahaha

[@Rod-bp8ow]

Good thing that the franchise owner is Konami, only rights to produce for the said silent hill game, all inclusions of the law that applies to owners of the copyright, license holder, patented, trademarks and registrations, registered. SME General practices, practioners, all fields of studies are orderly and efficient.

[@Kain5th]

Moment of ‘silence’

[@grawman67]

​@@Rod-bp8ow What?

[@Real1Gaming]

Capcom wins, but only because they're still making good games whereas Konami has only released one barely decent game in the past years (Bomberman R).

[@Real1Gaming]

Konami pioneered fighting games, wut?

[@ricardomauricioaraya7625]

PES series is still great even though most people play FIFA because of the licenses I guess!

[@thatguy8152]

Zesanactor Over-5 Konami still make games?

[@ricardomauricioaraya7625]

That Guy Pro Evolution Soccer at least, not sure anything else

[@themadoneplays7842]

Zesanactor Over-5 explain pachinko machines

[@radracer8889]

The production value of this episode is outstanding. Congrats guys!

[@zombiejlt1]

Agreed, everything was solid. Great footage, sound quality, well done!

[@mljh11]

Better than some professional gaming channels!

[@chuckmanson6092]

You're a virgin!

[@QF_Dan72]

Almost feel like i was watching a movie style documentary

[@federicoschreiner9991]

Excellent guys! Incredible the amount of work they dedicated in this episode. Keep in that way!!!

[@mix3k818]

In terms of retro games, it's hard to compare the two. In modern era though, Capcom is the best.

[@tuffasgong]

MiREK That is a very good summation, Konami seems to have given up on the video game market.

[@yogoshun]

Nah it's easy. Konami wins hands down.

[@BrokenOpus]

I really like Metal Gear Solid series, especially MGSV.

[@dragerv4118]

I'm torn on it but Capcom kept a certain level of quality experimentation aside, they stayed making great games through my entire life.

[@BrokenOpus]

Drager V have you heard of a game called Umbrella Corps? Or is that what you mean by experimental?

[@0wnz0rz888]

Konami “were” amazing, now they are as popular as a skidmark in a hobo’s 5 year unwashed shorts. That’s not to say Capcom didn’t mess up themselves - who can forget the DLC on the disc debacle - but are a better company than Konami today

[@TheAyanamiRei]

Let's not forget Monster Hunter World....a AAA game, WITHOUT a bunch of MicroTransactions and ZERO Lootboxes!!

[@QVAZzzz]

So true... what is Konami even doing now since they fired Kojima? They used to have a ton of awesome arcade and co-op action games in the 8-16 bit era but I feel like after they hit it HUGE with Metal Gear Solid and Silent Hill they started neglecting their other franchises and projects. Honestly, I can't tell you what they have been doing since then or at all lately other than trying to recreate his IP without him or his team which would cause serious backlash and probably not live up anywhere close. Capcom is still making good games, but they still are doing what they have been since SFII and its ~ a dozen remakes. With them, if you want to play the game with all of the current and potential (guaranteed) future content, don't be surprised if you end up buying the same game 10 times, each with an extra character or 2, a few minor changes to a moveset, or stage backgrounds. You could wait, but if you play competitively at all (fighters being the most likely genre) you are going to be way behind in training your muscle memory and learning the new mechanics, etc. And its not like it was a sudden, unplanned bug that needed to be fixed, new characters added by popular request or buff/nerf them for balance purposes; they systematically roll out these minor changes and market them as entirely new versions of the game that need to be purchased as such. It should be either a free patch to fix if its a bug or let the character be bought on its own. TBH I don't even really like that second idea -- or expansion DLCs in general either. Devs and pubs should wait to release the game with all the planned content right away instead of forcing customers to gradually pay for "upgrades". Once they've created a dedicated player, of course they are going to want the chance to play the whole game and suddenly a new expansion takes away their 100% completion -- its like pushing drugs on an addict, you know it's hard for them to resist

[@RetroRulzMyTown]

Yeah, I'm geniunely proud of Capcom for cleaning themselves up.

[@QF_Dan72]

At least Capcom never got involved in too much controversies unlike Konami

[@1903tx]

Capcom wins cause they're not preoccupied with slot machines

[@bando7593]

1903tx i mean far enough but they just producing shitty collections

[@TheLastLineLive]

1903tx Capcom, Sega, and Bandai Namco all have their own divisions like that as well. But Konami yes is one of the only one that does make machines for outside of Japan as well. In fact when I last went to the Casino I noticed quite a few Konami machines there.

[@TheLastLineLive]

Zesanactor Over-5 Silent Hill fans would disagree with you there.

[@TheLastLineLive]

Mr. Reality Jim Sterling does suck but there are plenty of others that started the Konami hate train like Alphaomegasin too so how do you know they're a fan of Jim's?

[@brycebitetti1402]

Mr. Reality Dude, Konami is hands down one of the worst videogame companies of the modern age. They might have an impressive history, but nowadays they're at EA levels of incompetence and corporate greed.

[@mraaronhd]

Here’s some trivia: Gradius 5 was actually developed by Treasure, which was formed by ex-Konami employees who left in the early 90’s.

[@Overbound]

Capcom wins by default because they still matter.

[@SuperVegeta25Returns]

This

[@startedtech]

Hey....Konami still matters! (If you're a Japanese man with a pachinko addiction)

[@trbotimmmmmmmeh]

sad but true, my first game memory is contra on NES 1 tho, nostalgia glasses extreme on that one

[@IgorKolosha]

Agreed.. current day Konami is dead to me.

[@jasonblalock4429]

Yep. Konami probably owns more iconic IP, but they've been steadily going downhill for a decade or more. Capcom might not have quite as many recognizable properties, but they've consistently been a top-tier dev from the 80s to today without ever even having a major slump. That puts them in the very upper echelon of game devs.

[@jokatech]

Hey Joe. A little interesting fact- The same guy who made SF actually made the same games that competed against it like Art of Fighting, when he left for SNK. I was surprised too when I found out.

[@pizzabagel3840]

This is one of my favorite episodes you've ever done. It really enjoyed the deep dive into their histories and going generation by generation. I hope you do more of these.

[@albatross1688]

I think the war between Capcom and Konami would continue on even to this day if it weren't for a series of really dumb and often baffling decisions by Konami in recent years. For that reason, I would say Capcom wins, as they at least continue to have working brains. Heck, they've probably been better than most at preserving their old titles in great compilations on current systems.

[@DeathBringer769]

Yea, both were amazing back in the day, but at least Capcom has managed to stay at least decent, while Konami is absolute crap now.

[@brandonwilliams6119]

Yeah why haven’t we got a Castlevania, Bomberman or Metal Gear Compilation Game for modern systems? I’m enjoying my Street Fighter and Megaman X Collections for Switch.

[@CAPCOM784]

There will never be another war.What games would you compare today Metal Gear Survive vs Monster Hunter World??Konami is pretty much done unless somehow slot machines started to fade?

[@Hyde209]

Yeah you're right both of you. Capcom sure have had the bigger impact on the industry, but I also agree with Dave. Konami are responsible for some of my alltime favourite games 😃 It's impossible for me to choose a winner. Strider and Mega Man are my Capcom favourites, but I also love CastleVania and Contra (Probotector over here). It's like the console wars of the 80s and 90s. I'm stuck in the middle and can't pick a side 😅 I'm glad I don't have to though 😊

[@Vectrex4Life]

It seems like no one ever mentions Konami's 3D racing games. Most were arcade exclusives and victims of suicide batteries but they made really great stuff. They had Midnight Run, Winding Heat, the GTI Club series, the Thrill Drive series and best of all, the Racing Jam series. In fact I'd call the Racing Jam games the greatest forgotten racing games of all time.

[@thefroyukenfiles3641]

Vectrex4Life Gamers just associated arcade racing games to Sega, Namco, and Midway/Atari Games. So much so that I didn't even know any of those Konami racing games existed until your comment.

[@Vectrex4Life]

Exactly, they never really had the foothold that the others had. But they were making some pretty unique stuff. Thrill Drive was an inspiration for the Burnout series and Racing Jam 1 was really the only arcade racer that ever had Gymkhana courses.

[@thefroyukenfiles3641]

This requires some KZbin research. Be right back! EDIT: I have returned with additional knowledge in arcade racers. Can definitely see where Burnout got its inspiration in Thrill Drive. It's a shame Konami's racing games aren't mentioned in the same breaths as the other companies I mentioned. They just arrived too late to the party while Sega and co. were wowing arcade goers for many years prior with their titles.

[@Ashura96]

Konami has way too many arcade games that never got a home port

[@colonelsandwich641]

Konami had some pretty cool sprite-based racers as well, like WEC Le Mans, Over Drive, and Racin' Force. Those last two aren't currently emulated, but WEC Le Mans is super underrated. It's pretty hard to get used to at first (at least for me) but once you know how to play it it's a really fun and intense game.

[@MacNasty11]

This is probably my favorite episode of Gamesack, and I've been subbed for years. Excellent work!

[@davetheimpaler204]

Capcom obviously won this battle at the end of the day. Now back in the day, they were neck and neck; no reason to choose between those two greats. R.I.P. Konami... 😑

[@KaloKross]

idk why you say rip konami when capcom has made profit 1 year out of the last 16 in their gaming division, they are floating off their own slot division and the owner hiding his wine money in the compny. konami makes 10x as much as them off yugioh cards alone lol. konami could buy and sell capcom for fun

[@soul2xzero]

Guys, there are not enough comments mentioning what an incredibly well done episode this is. As great as any episode of Game Sack is....this episode is incredibly special and unexpected. Let's continue support this and help these guys take this next level.

[@delta8t8]

Street Fighter II came out in arcades in 1991 NOT 1992.

[@DeathBringer769]

The famous console versions came out in 1992 in America so that's why everyone commonly gets that mixed up, lol. 1992 is usually the year people think of (when you mention something like "SF2 release"), so I can understand why they made that small error not thinking of the original arcade version which did release in 1991 like you said ;)

[@kaisersoymilk6912]

But people bought the console version because of the arcade, I choose the SNES mainly because of the SFII (then) exclusive.

[@joekerr1763]

delta8t8 You beat me to this fact, I was there too man. I lived it and it was a glorious time to be a kid.

[@Revz8bit]

@@joekerr1763 I still sometimes visit the gas station where we played many many hours of SF2 as a kid. When I use the atm I pretend it's still the SF2 cabinet lol

[@joekerr1763]

Revz8bit Same here, I still frequent the local pizza parlor where I first experienced SF2 and while they still have a few arcade cabinet games it's never been the same. Seldom do you even see anyone playing them, the claw machine gets more action than the video games and that's actually kinda sad. The good old days are well behind us unfortunately.

[@keness4768]

Do I love dinosaurs, joe?? You bet jurass I do!

[@TEXTMANNEN]

Like choosing between Mom and Dad :)

[@QVAZzzz]

@Lilltroll yeah, sort of. you have one who basically drove the breadwinner they relied on to abandon them (Konami), and the other parent who makes you do all of your chores only to tell you there is another chore to do.... 10 more times (Capcom releasing the same game with the smallest changes a dozen times calling them all totally new so you buy something you already own 95% of). That being said, they have probably made more games on my all time top fav than any other devs/publishers. Just said to see what happened to Konami and tired of Capcom's marketing strategies (not that they're alone but sine SFII ' they seem to have really made a habit out of that)

[@Badguy10472]

Lament of Innocence and Curse of Darkness did not forever stain the Castlevania brand name. Those games were great.

[@aaronsanislo860]

Not even a mention of Komami's Bemani series of music games. DDR, Beatmania, Guitar Freaks (Pre-dating Guitar Hero by several years)....Konami was king.

[@GameSack]

Yeah you probably won't find too many mentions of games like that on this channel. We offer exactly zero apologies. Those types of games are not really our thing.

[@Vectrex4Life]

Not mentioning their 3D arcade racing games is a crime!

[@jong2359]

Those games are not really a LOT of peoples thing =) They aren't even entertaining to watch, and they are so shallow there is nothing to learn about them.

[@fdp1982]

And the winning eleven serie

[@aaronsanislo860]

Jon G T Go to any Round 1 arcade in the country and you'll still see kids lined up to play these music games. They are definitely still a lot of people's thing. And if you played Beatmania IIDX, PopnMusic, or Sound Vertex you wouldnt be calling it shallow. Theyre some of the most difficult games I've ever played and the satisfaction of beating hard songs is what keeps me coming back.

[@swishpronoob]

This was a great trip down memory lane! Thank you

[@lilstrawhat]

Rip the pants. Rip the pants. Understand. Understand. The concept of LOVE.

[@chaseman94]

Break the pass. Break the pass.

[@zacharygirgenti3790]

Wonderful concept. This is a debate that I've always considered. Both companies have contributed so much that it's hard to pick a favorite.

[@angrodii]

What a pleasent way to start Sunday. Let's gooooo!

[@Lord_of_the_Pies]

This is easily one of the top 10,000 game channels! :)

[@marakarthegreat]

this is equivalent to Fried chicken vs Pizza, I can't decide which is the best

[@superpaul79]

Pizza.

[@edwnx0]

pizza has ingredients in the four food groups. pizza wins.

[@vidlink]

I would use the analogy of burger vs burrito. Both are awesome. Too bad Konami no longer matters.

[@Obesepope]

You can get a fried chicken pizza, you cannot get pizza flavored fried chicken. Pizza > fried chicken

[@RSKLEIN]

Pizza WINS all day

[@smokeglacken]

Outstanding edition of Game Sack boys! Unreal amount of passion, love and work on display here!

[@T4silly]

2 AM. Time for some Sunday Morning Sack!

[@Rxz5526]

T4silly has your wife found out yet?

[@zombiejlt1]

@MultiTarded Same

[@charizardoreo]

Sack and Snack

[@PrinceMarcusWilliam]

Time to get sacked!

[@djpeterabreu]

it's been four years since I first subscribed to game sack and I'm still impressed with the great quality of the videos and joe's good taste as a video editor, keep it up guys

[@doomslayer163]

It really sucks seeing Konami change so much, especially since I grew up loving their games. However, I do understand it and don't hate on them like most do.

[@ultimateman55]

Haven't watched yet, but what a great episode idea! In the 16-bit era, Capcom and Konami were perhaps the two most prolific 3rd party developers with so many hits between them.

[@startedtech]

Nothing like a fresh, piping hot sack at 1 am!

[@TransKingFormers]

I been watching gamesack for years and this episode by far is hands down my favorite 2 of my favorite gaming companies of my childhood this is to much mega power for my brain to handle!

[@mainsmain]

You forgot PES 6, the best football game ever!

[@Petu1987]

I was surprised as well. They didn't mention the suikoden series either but at least the showed a lot of footage. But not even a screenshot for the PES??? Great espisode tho

[@iancomer2533]

This was amazing going over both library of games... So many cherished memories with friends in the arcade and home consoles. Having over 30 years of fun myself I can only say I just feel absolutely blessed both were a part of my life. God I miss using quarters for what they were intended...arcades and not some air machine at a gas station...😢

[@DarylPell]

SNK vs. Hudson. Battle of the sole console support!

[@jkajmo]

You know, I watch & sub to MANY retro gaming channels & some of them are seriously awesome however Joe & Dave have created something spectacular with Game Sack making this easily my favorite channel. They have so many cool liitle edits & segments in their videos. Among these one of my personal favorite is that after each game discussed they show 10 seconds (or so) of uninterrupted gameplay of that game. Keep doing what you do Game Sack cuz you make my life a little better with your videos. Thank you.

[@Johnnygrafx]

Silent Hill and MGS are my top two favorite games of all time, and music is a huge factor with retro games for me, so Konami takes it for me, hands down. But I also completely agree that Capcom has had a bigger impact in the industry. Street Fighter and Resident Evil are cultural icons.

[@Starscreamlive]

Thank you Dave for showing some love for Goonies 2. One of my favorite NES games growing up.

[@diebesgrab]

“Okami [...] is basically Capcom’s take on The Legend of Zelda gameplay.” I’m pretty sure Oracle of Ages, Oracle of Seasons, Four Swords, and Minish Cap were Capcom’s takes on TLoZ gameplay.

[@rickylovesyou]

Well no, those are still Nintendo owned IP.

[@diebesgrab]

@@rickylovesyou What’s your point? Nintendo didn’t develop them, Capcom did.

[@BygoneUser1]

@@diebesgrab But those aren't a 'take' on Legend of Zelda gameplay, they ARE Legend of Zelda gameplay.

[@thefrankiepalmeri]

This might be your best video to date. You've both improved, big time. Good job.

[@davebladegun3009]

Joe nailed it. Konami has a truly awesome catalogue of games, but Capcom has revolutionized entire genres on multiple occasions. It’s just too bad they decided to let a group of fourth graders develop Street Fighter V.

[@conorl1894]

Fantastic video! My two all time favourite video game developers. Would be an easy choice but for the Castlevania series (sotn is my #1 all time favourite game), but even just to see so many classics which were formative for me growing up (street fighter ii, which is why I bought a snes, final fight, ghosts and goblins trilogy, strider etc etc) and still games I love to play today. Really enjoyed watching this

[@PastoKage]

Contra Force at the end wasn't even a Contra game, they made a mistake in marketing it as a Contra game! Anyway I do agree with the verdict 100%, bu they both made many outstanding games.

[@juanchooh9965]

Game sack is the kind of show you watch and before you know it the episode endede because its so good and well done, thanks a lot for the effort

[@Freevo_Lowse]

Konami have fallen a long long way down, capcom haven't been perfect but at least they don't stop legendary devs picking up awards they deserve

[@mosiarmstrong]

Hey Joe and Dave, what's the name of the backing track starting at 12:18?

[@ReplayStation]

Talk about Konami and not even mention Dance Dance Revolution or any of the other rhythm games that revolutionized and revitalized arcades in arcades in the early 2000s and legitimized music games on home consoles... pfft. Do you even stomp arrows bro?

[@DrVanNostrand01]

DDR was incredibly Niche (at least in the United States) and there was no revitalization of arcades in the early 2000s. Arcades were DEAD in the early 2000s, it wasn't until a few years later that we saw arcades starting to come back due to nostalgia. "BAR"cades did more to revitalize the arcade industry than DDR did.

[@jokatech]

I disagree. This is a thankless generation. While it did have a finite period in time, I can attest to the power of DDR. It was literally a revolution. Discounting it for copycats is typical millenial tactics.

[@DrVanNostrand01]

The only arcades that we’re around in the early 00s were places like Dave and Busters. Which are more similar to carny operations than traditional arcades imo. DDR was commercially successful, it was always seen as a gimmicky / casual game (at least amongst the hardcore gamers). Hence being more niche and it never really gained mass appeal in the US. It was mostly played in a party setting similar to guitar hero but never got as big. There were also games like Parappa the Rapper and Um Jammer Lammy which had an audience at the time and both were liked by critics. Power Pad > DDR dance pad haha

[@Dj.D25]

Agree, DDR should have at least got a mention, since it was very popular. Konami helped in making great rhythm games and are still making them today, mainly for arcades.

[@PaladinDusty]

No mention of Yu Gi Oh either...

[@user-wg3dq3ev8g]

I've been watching this show for years and I must say; this is the best episode you guys have ever done. Good job and cannot wait for future episodes.

[@anonymoususer6774]

Nice video, but I say Konami is better. Tiny Toons: Buster's Hidden Treasure on Genesis is one of my favorite platformers of the 90's. Rocket Knight was also a blast.

[@BugbearMadness]

You guys have taken the production to the next level... Only thing I would change... When the capcom logo smashes the konami logo in the end... A SFII sound clip of "You Win" would be perfect ☺

[@After4th]

4:07 Contra Force is NOT a sequel that couldn't live up. It has nothing to do with the Contra series which was originally meant to be a spin-off called Arc Hound which didn't make it in Japan. Contra III is the actual sequel which came out months before Contra Force.

[@projectmayhem6898]

Thanks!

[@GameSack]

Thanks! :D

[@AmberShort]

Capcom and Konami were both great companies that made awesome games during the prime of gaming. Both showed alot of love with the games they made and it showed. It's really hard to choose a side unless you like certain genres. Both companies seem to make any genre very well. Like how could they go wrong? I really enjoyed any game they would put out. As for me, I can't choose but I will say that I enjoy Dungeons and Dragons Shadow of Mystara from Capcom and probably rank that as my favorite. Konami would be the Castlevania series. But again it's hard when both companies showed their love on game creation. Konami left the love and abandoned everyone and Capcom hasn't but I feel the love isn't there as it once was. I would side with Capcom but just a very slight margin. Either way, I miss all the quality and love both companies used to make. It's all about the money now.

[@tcgamingtimes999]

I definitely agree with the verdict, especially since Capcom has had more consistency over the years with their IPs. Great video, guys!

[@PixelGameSquad]

I'm here for Dave's beautiful face

[@nohomers100]

this comment implies that there are people who are NOT here for Dave's beautiful face. I find that preposterous

[@DarkwingGeese]

Over in Japan, the Tokimeki Memorial series were their staple back then.

[@RetiredAgent80]

I miss the fart sound the sack used to make when it hit the table in the opening intro...

[@RetiredAgent80]

haha i know

[@disparityband]

I know! They told me they would work on getting it back on there, but that turned out to be a lie! I like to think someone is still farting, it's just a silent but deadly.

[@daakrolb]

Good episode. So many VERY nostalgic games featured here.

[@robertmather6446]

The first Lords of Shadow game is great.

[@Badguy10472]

That game was more of a god of war ripoff than a proper castlevania

[@eric90000]

Your CRT scanline filters always look better than any PVM or upscaler I've ever seen haha

[@ZBR_ProXP]

Konami during PS1 era was GODLY.... SOTN, MGS, Suikoden 1 & 2, Vandal Hearts...

[@michaelmellette8245]

Actually ZBR silent hill

[@ZBR_ProXP]

great game and a great console, but it was no killer blow to either PS1 or the likes of MGS

[@ZBR_ProXP]

i'm curious as to which Konami games you would consider "lesser"

[@19HajimeSaitou91]

And Soul of the Samurai and that was BEFORE Capcoms Onimusha

[@AIO13101980]

What a fantastic episode! You're really great video game history storytellers! I hope you will make a VS video with game makers in the future (what about Yu Suzuki VS Shigeru Miyamoto??) :D

[@Game_Glyph]

Castlevania SOTN holds Konami up, without that title, the win would easily go to Capcom. So the true winder is...Castlevania SOTN!!

[@DemonSlayerFan6381]

Maybe back in the day I would agree but Konami didn't make that game koji igarashi and his team did I respect them for make most of my childhood joy but I'll never forgive Konami unless they stop with all these microtransactions bullshit

[@19HajimeSaitou91]

There is also Silent Hill 2

[@NorrinRaddIITurbo]

Does anyone know the song at 12:28? I think it’s listed as Night Warriors Cool Love at the end, but I couldn’t find a video that sounds like it.

[@NYCJoeBlack]

Two of my all-time favorite companies and they have BOTH fell off over the years with Capcom fairing a bit better than Konami in modern gaming.

[@phetinthasanh7083]

Great video! Such a great time when SF II was out on the arcades.

[@TXWC4Life]

WWE SummerSlam 2018 AND a new episode of Game Sack on my Birthday!! What?! That is just #TooSweet!

[@SlyBeast]

Two pillars of the foundation of gaming as we know it today, no doubt!

[@alx42013]

Namco Vs Irem Data east Vs Midway/Williams ?

[@MixMasterLar]

Data East vs Midway hurts my brain to think about holy shit. Would probably go Midway if I had to though. Namco destroys Irem pretty easily

[@nunavyourbiznas8660]

Namco, gotta have my Tekken

[@roudanskalamir9251]

I think a more app comparison would be Namco vs Sega since they were the main leaders of the arcade. With that said, Irem is my favorite company of all time (with Konami at a close second) so Irem pawns all imao. My personal list of favorites: 1. Irem 2. Konami 3. Data East 4. Midway/Williams 5. Namco 6. Sega 7. Taito 8. Atari 9. Capcom 10. SNK 11. Toaplan 12. Nichibutsu 13. Technos 14. NMK 15. Tecmo

[@19HajimeSaitou91]

I only know Irem for R-type

[@jeremyjohnson8844]

The music in this episode just had to be mindblowing, with the two best VGM companies present.

[@lmpst7915]

Y'all dude guys should collab with hard 4 games. I know theyd be down and the awkward dad humour would work. Also you need to sink a good few hours into monster hunter to understand the basic controls and then a few more with each weapon type to see what fits you

[@beefcurtainz69]

Great job!! The capture footage of games you guys got was amazing in quality. So good!

[@DanDoesGame]

I love all the videos, so dont take this the wrong way.... But this was probably my favorite video over the past year from you guys

[@GAMONSKI4EVER]

Agree with the verdict. THIS is by far your best video. and guys have had a lot of great videos.. Good work Sack!

[@RetroGamePlayers]

After hearing the verdict Solid Snake went LIMP

[@_SSGB_]

Retro Game Players He's now known as Flacid Snake

[@BrokenOpus]

Liquiiid!!

[@mikeypie24]

This is the best channel on KZbin. You guys are awesome and funny as well-

[@Sirynx77]

I like Capcom but I could (and have) never got into any of the franchises like I have with Konami's. Gaming would have been boring without the Gradius and Castlevania franchises. Also Konami did Time Pilot and Gyruss, two of my favorite arcade games. Konami was also responsible for a lot of the music rhythm games with their Bemani games. With series like Dance Dance Revolution, Pop'n Music, Beatmania, DrumMania, GuitarFreaks, KeyboardMania, ParaPara Paradise. Some of those franchises still have new releases to the arcades.

[@ihatecabbage7270]

Sirynx77 unfortunately Konami executive single handly piss on mist of us......

[@jethropalillo1746]

@@ihatecabbage7270 I think we should stop on just being angry on one side because sometimes it's easy for us to see these two as a single entity but reality its far too difficult to even think of that

[@HBLINK]

Great episode guys! Does anyone have any idea of what music is being played with the Capcom segment initially starts?

[@Waynimations]

I can’t really pick my favorite on this one

[@XSkidMarcX]

Great episode guys. Looking forward to more of these in the future.

[@VannyARTS]

Konami wins when it comes to music... most of their games had great and memorable music.

[@Orishibu]

What's the name of the track at 12:17 please? I can't seem to find it in the credits...

[@rangoononline]

Capcom made Mega Man 2. Konami Made Contra. Metal Jesus told me that they are both hidden gems... for some reason he looks like one of the guys in this video ;)

[@incognito-p9c]

rangoononline Mega Man and Contra aren't hidden gems. They're well known. Tf are you smoking?

[@tbaker9409]

John Boona , he stated "Metal Jesus told me". He obviously realizes they are not. Sarcasm is such an odd beast.

[@mrhypnagogia]

there was a certain feel when u had one of those 2 logos on your cartridge or cd back in the day

[@Swordslinger-hb1ns]

Capcom used to be in dire financial straits. I mean they used to have only $125 million in the bank. But not anymore. Thanks to Monster Hunter World, Resident Evil VII and Mega Man 11. They're once again financially secure and once again one of the top tier gaming companies on the planet. 👍However, Konami is in a pretty shitty state. Poor business decisions ,creative differences, and crap games have devastated the once prolific company. I wouldn't be surprised if Konami only had $125 million in their bank right now. Hell, I think they may have only $75 million in total.

[@Swordslinger-hb1ns]

Konami treats their employees like shit. For instance, if an employee of Konami decides to leave the company, Konami makes it their sworn duty to make that said employees life miserable. As in they can't get jobs, their denied visas, they can't get benefits from certain jobs. This borderlines on yakuza operations. Konami is evil incarnate and must perish.

[@Swordslinger-hb1ns]

Capcom is on the side of righteousness while Konami has turned to the darkside.

[@RicochetForce]

Konami posted their best earnings year in their history in 2017, apparently. They make most of their money off of fitness centers, pachinko and mobile endeavors in Japan. They're actually doing fine.

[@Swordslinger-hb1ns]

Konami just makes piss poor games and they don't care about quality in the games they release. While as a company they're financially secure the fact that they've moved away from making really good games, they basically ruined their reputation as a gaming company with their pachinko game bullshit.

[@RicochetForce]

Oh, agreed. I just had to get ahead of the misinformation that the country is doing poorly financially. It doesn't excuse them dumping their legacy, mistreating employees, etc...

[@tommykesh]

Your most polished peace of work yet. Nice !

[@fogdiver]

WHERE CAN I GET DAVE'S SHIRT ZOMBIES ATE MY NEIGHBORS WAS THE ENTIRETY OF MY CHILDHOOD

[@startedtech]

Wow you never even ate, slept, or had friends? Sorry to hear about that

[@markrasta9046]

This was your best episode yet, bravo

[@robertsilvermyst7325]

For me Capcom wins because they haven't become a complete shell of their former selves. I love the Konami games more, especially the Castlevania games, but ever since they got thier new CEO who has pretty much shat all over their own IPs and their fans, I won't be buying a Konami game any time soon.

[@paunchstevenson]

Other Konami/Ultra games: The Adventures of Bayou Billy, Rollergames, Axelay, Aliens, Juno First, Rush'n Attack, Top Gun, Yie Ar Kung-Fu, Tutankham, Stinger, Boot Camp, TMNT: Tournament Fighters, Lethal Enforcers, Parodius, Base Wars, Crisis Force, Mission: Impossible, International Superstar Soccer, Bottom of the 9th, The Main Event, Elebits, etc.

[@ThoughtformsOfTheSubconsciousM]

Great episode guys! I agree, especially with Konami being in the shape that it is today sadly.

[@TurboNutterBastard]

"Konami being in the shape that it is today" ??? Konami is worth more than ever and they earn more money than they ever have, they just don't focus on video games at the moment.

[@ThoughtformsOfTheSubconsciousM]

@@TurboNutterBastard In regards to the quality of their gaming products, this is a show about video games after all, not finances. I mean seriously, come on. No on here is concerned with their money, why in the world even say that?

[@Alex-wi3xi]

@@TurboNutterBastard Lol what a clown, who the hell is talking about how much money they have? Talking about making a fool of yourself 🤣🤣

[@RoninAM]

So many good memories in this episode. Especially the arcade footage 😃

[@Swordslinger-hb1ns]

Capcom > Konami. Like Joe said, “ long live Capcom.” ✌️

[@tuheedshinwari3351]

🖕

[@Grail_Quest]

I like Konami better.

[@glesgagreg2255]

Great vid! But one glaring omission: Konami's ISS & PES series. Probably not as big in North America but huge in the rest of the world especially at their critical peak in the early to mid 00's, as far as I can tell it's the only console game Konami publish nowadays too!

[@Zanji1234]

xD well Konami makes a shitload of cash with Yugioh.... even when the players always complain about broken cards, to speedy meta and to expensive cards (since many of them are veeery short printed) they still play it

[@GTXDash]

I would like to see more of these kinds of VS videos. Doing Capcom vs Konami was a perfect choice. I always think of those two companies when I think of amazing 80s and 90s third party developers. Sometimes I even get them mixed up.