Capitalism Run Amok: What went wrong and how to fix it | Marianne Williamson and Richard Wolff

Economist and Professor Richard Wolff analyzes the deficiencies of modern capitalism, articulating the benefits of a socialist system and the road to a more equitable society. He promotes not a radical shift in economic system, but a gradual transformation involving a shift in consciousness from profits before people to people above all else.
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[@waitaminute2015]

What I like about Marianne, is that she's not afraid to keep searching for answers. She's a great orator, but an even greater listener. I wish her all the best for 2024.

[@livinglife9207]

This nation needs more conversations like this.

[@drmontague6475]

The working class have sub normal brains and therefore a right wing mentality

[@scottclute7443]

Conservative values..

[@scottclute7443]

Diplomacy is our only Hope!!!!

[@nole8923]

@@drmontague6475 That mostly applies to older white working class in the South and rural areas. Not all working class.

[@cabreram.4734]

There's a 6 year old documentary by Australian John Pilger called "The coming war on China" I'd highly recommend it. Please check it out. Share if possible for those who may be oblivious to the issue.

[@EndPoliticalCorruption]

When you get these history lessons during a discussion, it makes you realize that what people like Bernie and Richard Wolff are really doing is reacquainting us with lost knowledge -- ideas that have been suppressed and made taboo over the decades. We owe them a great debt. And I wish and would encourage Prof Wolff, Marianne, and anyone else with a platform (and in the know) to introduce to us additional others who may share their wisdom. Because as Prof Wolff points out here, we need many to give voice to these ideas.

[@robertdouglas8895]

To tell college students that their debt is so great they will never be able to repay it is a major difference between the 70's and 80's and now. Defeatism is his message. Fear. Not what we were saying in the 70's and 80's

[@jaggillar6680]

@@robertdouglas8895 ah, so it's not the abuse that's the problem, it's the person who reports it.

[@JohnThomas-li2vi]

@@robertdouglas8895 o

[@robertdouglas8895]

@@jaggillar6680 A problem, not "the" problem.

[@mattsharpey361]

@@robertdouglas8895 really? How sad that you see honesty as violence…..

[@joyfullydreaded1371]

Every time I listen to/watch Prof Wolff, the minutes just fly by and leaves me hungering for more knowledge. He is truly a master educator and a treasure on the left that I hope we have him around for as long as Chomsky. I have learned so much from him!

[@lepidoptera9337]

What did you learn? Please elaborate.

[@TheGerogero]

@@lepidoptera9337 All I get from Wolff is coincidental observations and emotional rhetoric. That is to say, no logic, no method, no system.

[@mlake07]

I find his tone unbearably condescending... Plus he seems to live in some sort of 1940s world. The world has moved on...

[@lepidoptera9337]

@@TheGerogero That's generous. I usually call that "bullshit" but you are clearly the more refined speaker. ;-)

[@joyfullydreaded1371]

Wow...look at all the butt hurt Capitalist propagandists! LOLOLOLOLOLOL

[@Quartermaster_Veteran]

When Congress gets a multi thousand page bill and told they have just hours to skim over it before voting on it (with zero debate) tells me that none of our elected leaders are in charge!

[@Maldemer896]

Yes, where is Democracy here?

[@JnTmarie]

Debate should be required and all should listen. And pay attention.

[@wilfredruffian5002]

The timing and setup indicates someone is very much in charge and the reasons should be quite clear to anyone paying attention.

[@rickb3650]

The elected leaders that are in charge are the Party leaders, therefore in practical terms it is the parties that are in charge and the parties are owned and run by the donors. Both Mitch McConnell and Nancy Pelosi lead their parties in their houses because they bring the most money into their parties.

[@RussCR5187]

If we look very closely maybe we can see the strings that operate the politician puppets.

[@rumorhasit9506]

In the early 1970s, I worked for a small family business, where the owner offered to pay my full college tuition for me. He didn't care what I studied and he wanted me to go to the best college in the area. His family valued education that highly. You would never see an employer do even a fraction of that today.

[@maclogan8977]

Such a mental pleasure listening to these two sane sober minds..no yelling no cussing just respect knowledge order and decorum..bless you both

[@tompain2751]

They agreed on everything. This was one sided.

[@007kingifrit]

that's because they....didn't fucking say anything. really what solutions did he offer to the world the closest thing he said to coherent policy was "we think workers should get a vote in the company" which is stupid because the workers don't KNOW anything beyond their job. its not their company

[@energizme100]

Thank you, Prof. Wolff. I am 51 yrs old and I once considered myself an entrepreneur, Started a couple start up businesses, had a bus. partner, employees, customers. Monopoly's killed each and every one. I used to believe in the "American dream." I do not have much hope, until I listen to your message. America seems to find foundation in our beloved US Constitution, Look at where our origins were...where has that core lead us.... Re-writing / Updating / omitting all the outdated, oppressive language would encourage vision for a Progressive Multi-Cultural American Democratic immersed society. Democracy the Way Prof. Wolff outlines starting in the home, to the work place.

[@susylove7739]

I am dutch and live in France. From Holland I receive (like everyone above 67 years) every month about 1200 $ and almost free medical care is there for everyone. For me this is normal and a don't call myself a socialist or communist. There is so much money from big companies going into your political system and therefore I wonder if America is still a democracy? Here there are no words for gerrymandering and votersuppression. Seems all so akward to me. Great talk by the way and nice to see Marianne (met her once in Amsterdam) again. Keep up your good work and make America great again (-: !!!

[@Spamlure]

The biggest take-away, i.e. the most important thing mentioned, was the problem of labels. When you call someone a capitalist or socialist, there's just too much baggage to the labels. Apply these labels to someone and watch the straw man start to form in their minds. The time has come for all of us to look past labels, and look instead at ideas. If we enact and test ideas for our society, we get better as a society.

[@secularnevrosis]

Yes. It is a problem. It doesn't help if I say that I'm a Marxist if the person I'm talking to have no idea about what Marx said about anything, sans what they hear from the mainstream media. So you have to do it the hard way. Explaining different concepts in detail and why they matter. I find many people are too emotionally invested. You might explain how the profit vs labor works, who is creating the profits and how our economics are outside democratic control. They often agree until you say 'That's what Marx saw as a problem!' then they go totally nuts. I find that many so called capitalists doesn't understand their own position.

[@drmontague6475]

If Marx is correct then capitalism will create its own grave diggers.

[@secularnevrosis]

@@drmontague6475 Well. They are, and they kind of did already. Almost all over the world they had to give in to the demands of the public in the early 1900's. Then they have worked really hard to go back to how it was before that. It took a couple of decades though. The prosporous middle class, along with civil rights and liberties sprung from the demands of the early 1900's.

[@drmontague6475]

@@secularnevrosis It appears that the working class got a reasonable standard of living, however they now want to reverse it, It's as if they have got a self destruct button, they keep on voting in bougoise parties, they feckin love Boris, they worship the ground he walks on, . These are feckers who will secretly smile when they hear of working class migrants drowning in the English channel.

[@Dutch_Uncle]

Yes, the label is a problem. "Socialist" brings up the image of a bearded, wild-eyed bomb thrower and baby killer. "Capitalist" is an old guy with a monocle, cane, and top hat. Cartoonish but not reality. However, consider Nebraska, the solidly Republican state which twice gave Richard Nixon his greatest percentage victory over JFK. How do you match this political background with the fact that 100% of the generation and distribution of electricity in that state is by the state, in the form of "Public Power Districts" with directors elected on the general ballot? Yes, "socialist'" would be an appropriate truth-in-labeling description of the system, but the term has the smell and kiss of death, thus "Public Power." The fact that a large proportion of the male population has done military service also builds resistance to the idea of state control of anything. When you have had a serving spoon of oatmeal flung onto your metal tray and been told to move on and not delay the line while being truly grateful for what the system has provided, you become more interested in choices. Likewise in medicine. If you first have to convince a gatekeeper in the form of a sergeant or civil servant that you want to be permitted to see a doctor, you begin to question if they have your best interests as their priority. Further forced contact with the Department of Motor Vehicles, zoning boards and the Internal Revenue Service makes one rejoice that these guys are not responsible for the food or fuel supply. Adults of experience can recognize that the entrenched civil servants can be more focused on their own personal interests, their sick leave, annual leave, parental leave, coffee beaks, parking places, seniority, pensions, and hospital plans than the concerns of the citizenry. If they were in charge of a winery they would certainly produce a very sour wine, but they would meet their state quotas, measured in liters, and be promoted. The drinkability of the products would be of minor importance.

[@wenkeadam362]

Dear Marianne and Prof, it has been a great joy to watch this inspiring show. Thanks to you both for all the love and care you generously put into making it possible. As a Norwegian living in South America after spending 20 years in Africa, I have been following the US scene with great interest since I retired ten years ago. From afar it sometimes looks like a farce and sometimes as a drama, but always fascinating and still influential to the rest of the world. I wish you and your country all the best for the future - and by that I mean: please, USA, get down from that ridiculous imaginary exceptionalist pedestal you invented for yourself and join the rest of the world where we try to work together as equals. I think your country has been bitten by the scary apocalypse zombies you love to make movies about. Don't be afraid, the real world is not such a scary place. Thank you again, and Marianne, I have subscribed to your channel, I just discovered it today so I have a lot of interesting stuff to catch up with!

[@karenhartman9774]

What’s transpiring is the rise of sociopathic narcissism/ fascism that’s been growing for over 30 years. These types love prospering at the expense of others. It’s conscious and intentional. The average person needs to recognize that this level of evil exists and take corrective action.

[@JagadanandaDas]

This is a great interview. You can see Marianne listening probably more carefully than most interviewers do, respectfully and honorably. But she gets the best out of Wolff, her questions are the kind that we would hope a presidential candidate would ask. And it is good to see how Wolff's rise in popular consciousness is reaching up, at least to the periphery of political participation and power.

[@newlife155]

Marxism

[@RunninUpThatHillh]

Hard pass.

[@AGirlofYesterday]

@@newlife155 Total Communist or fascist takeover is what we will get if we don't embrace some Marxist philosophies to make capitalism more democratic. Keep voting Republican and good luck under a Chinese regime when capitalism falls.

[@jayboegs6268]

Question: Are we still Capitalists now that capitalists take on little or no risks but instead are back-stopped by the Fed? Is oligarchy the endgame of capitalism or just a really terrible version of it?

[@Jraymiami]

💥🥊

[@SuperDflower]

Excellent ?

[@SuperDflower]

Brilliant summation

[@troywalkertheprogressivean8433]

yes

[@Mutineer9]

Libertarian will tell you that this is not capitalism, but I would suggest it is inevitable result of capitalism. One of component of Capitalism is competition and winner take all system. Winners absorb looser and become bigger. Eventually they become big enough to realize that control of government is cheaper and faster then market competition. So, you get oligarchy. You can claim that you can cut off top and regulate, but eventually is will become what it was. Theodor Roosevelt was first cut of top with antimonopoly policies, FDR was second, with 90+% taxes on top. Both attempts fall, antimonopoly laws still on books ignored, Rich pay smaller taxes then working class. You see my point?

[@digitraxanr]

Thank you, Marianne for this conversation with Richard Wolff. You are both brilliant and need to be heard by Americans, especially during these times. Stay well.

[@douglascarlson9006]

It doesn't make any difference how many people hear it ... Congress and the senate are actually paid to abuse and debase our system - it cannot be reformed - it can only collapse, and Wolff and Marianne both know it!

[@MsUtuber2]

Lolol. FDR

[@RatZapTshirt]

@@ab-ih2ir 'Midwits' is the term for them. People with above-average intelligence who think they're smarter than everyone.

[@billiamc1969]

Most Americans live in abject denial and will never open their minds enough to hear folks like Prof Wolff...

[@tigran56]

@@ab-ih2ir o the old “I’ve been everywhere man. I know everything.” Well me too. You are the duped. But don’t bother studying. It wont help.

[@chrisdotson1524]

Thank you! Marianne!! This is correct analysis and honest and looks to a positive outcome for all this madness and selfishness. We’ll never see a growth period as we had during the 70’s, 80’s and 90’s. I was a kid growing up in my church in Hollywood and know how hard you have worked to bring kindness to humankind. You’ll recall Patricia Shelhamer and Dr. Ken Watson at UMCH who were two of my early mentors and they both respected you very much into my adulthood. Still working with the homeless, we see firsthand the decline you speak of, herein. WE NEED SOLUTIONS and leaders to take positive action. The Green New Deal is a key to this, and so vital to recovering for ALL Americans. Peace.

[@denise90231]

Everyone forgets that any system can become corrupt - whether it is capitalist, socialist or communist. People unfortunately will always find a way to take advantage of whatever system. What we need is balance and ethics - and a combination of both conservative and liberal values that work together instead of working against each other. Personal responsibility combined with cooperation and compassion for others.

[@e.777.r2]

Both Liberals and Conservatives support a different form of Capitalism. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pZW8hoaKqa2ZfcU

[@ManiM-kw6jz]

So wonderful, lots of information to learn and digest. Thank you Marriane, and thank you Professor

[@zoghunter82318]

You morons are how these small hats get away with their crimes every single time.

[@drmontague6475]

If Marx is correct then capitalism will create its own grave diggers.

[@johnkunelius8142]

Ih dl DO to

[@kimwalter8753]

Yep, this is what ethical folk look like. Whats in the heart will come out of the mouth, and in a person's actions, behavior, and condict.

[@MarinCipollina]

@@kimwalter8753 Quite correct. ‘Who you are’ will always be evident when you’re speaking. It is abundantly clear both of these two are coming from an enlightened place.

[@ZoeyPaigeLunaPhD]

Back when American capitalism was an amazing juggernaut, the taxes on the rich and corporations were MUCH higher

[@ExpatZ266]

In the 90% percent range in fact for the top brackets. Forced em to reinvest into their companies and pay wages in order to get the tax breaks on the profits. Those days are long gone, Americans now mostly don't understand what unions are or why/where you would create one.

[@drmontague6475]

If Marx is correct then capitalism will create its own grave diggers.

[@TheRickyp83]

You forget the fact that at that time period, the rest of the world was still in shambles from WW2. Not too hard to be the #1 economic system when the rest of the world is busy rebuilding from rubble.

[@TheRickyp83]

@@ExpatZ266 The working class was only doing well at that time for a fraction of the working class-white men. Other than that, women were still very dependent on men to survive and black people were in worse poverty than they are now.

[@JohnT.4321]

That is a truth that needs to be pointed out on a larger scale.

[@Kritiker313]

This has been a wonderful interview I give it ten out of ten! Thank you Prof Wolff for sharing your knowledge and insightfulness. And thank you Marianne Williamson for asking such poignant questions. It's about time to leave capitalism behind and heal this country from the terrible state it's in.

[@robertdouglas8895]

To tell college students that their debt is so great they will never be able to repay it is a major difference between the 70's and 80's and now. Defeatism is his message. That was not what we heard back then. Fear. Forgiveness overcomes fear.

[@mattsharpey361]

@@robertdouglas8895 Feeling guilty?

[@robertdouglas8895]

@@mattsharpey361 I would never tell people that they will not get what they need. God provides that whether it's health care or repayment of college loans.

[@robertdouglas8895]

@@mattsharpey361 Guilt is what makes people want to spend government money on things they should be able to afford but spent it elsewhere on unnecessary things.

[@mattsharpey361]

@@robertdouglas8895 what a sad, lonely filter to view this life through…. Peace brother.

[@stacyeleanza4917]

So awesome to have 2 of the most brilliant intelligent people in the country having a conversation together! If there is any hope at all - it's because of both of you! (...OK, well maybe a small handful of others, too.) But you two are the wise elders that the young'uns ought to be listening to! So grateful for your dedication! 🌷

[@louisecandelmo8567]

They are learning about true government & true history that aaffects them today. But people like DeSantas are passing anti-woke & anti-transgender, anti- women, etc... Trying to stop these young people & and others that agree with them.

[@akapotato]

Prof Wolfe is generous in his characterization of Biden as wanting to be like FDR, evidenced by FDR's portrait in the oval office. Biden promised the donor class oligarchs that nothing would change under his administration. We recognize Biden's political theatre vs the working class voter

[@jamescolyn5960]

Great point. Biden wants to be "compared" to FDR, but he certainly does not want to enact any FDR-style policies that might upset or anger the oligarchs. For all intents and purposes, the oligarchs put Biden in power (or at least made sure that he won the election), and he's definitely not gonna turn around and stab any of them in the back.

[@Mr.Eldritch]

Biden has spent his entire career not only yielding to but actively promoting the interests of the corporate oligarch class. To be very honest, I expect less than nothing from his administration, and am fully expecting the next president to not only be a Republican, but to be a full-tilt fascist, and one who is a lot smarter and more cunning than Trump was. Capitalism will always degenerate into fascism eventually, always.

[@____uncompetative]

@@jamescolyn5960 What election? I didn't think America had had an election since 2016. That's nothing new. They didn't have an election in 2000 either.

[@l.w.paradis2108]

Wolff said the same.

[@mattja52]

Biden is being what he is, a politician, one can never be surprised in the matter of their presentation whether they be a donkey or an elephant.

[@Meraloma73]

Thank you both for this hour of calm discussion.

[@ilyagulag]

Brilliant,"professor "! "Let's build OUR new world(a.k.a your beloved kommunism),who was nothing will become everything".👏💪👏 Never mind that it's been tried before so many times and so many countries and killed millions in a process. This time we get it right. No doubts about that! And FYI: "professor "Wolf, people who are coming to USA and Canada today legally are making successful lives for themselves and people around them still today. Get off your subsidized by hardworking taxpayers "high chair" and get real. Never too late to get smart. Use your brain accordingly.

[@legalfictionnaturalfact3969]

Calm is not a virtue. If you want calm, hit up NPR. Or 95% of lamestream media. It's time to throw 'bos

[@ryanosterman2651]

@@ilyagulag I mean capitalism kills about 20 million a year plus has killed a couple billions of people in the past. This is a bad faith argument anyhow.

[@ilyagulag]

@@ryanosterman2651 sure. People have been killing each other throughout human history.Yes,nobody's perfect. Therefore no perfect system either. In my life though was "lucky" to experience fruits of both: kommunism & capitalism. You don't,obviously. That's the difference. Unlike "professor "Wolf would highly recommend to follow through on your love of kommunism - buy 1 way ticket to Cuba or North Korea and burn your passport on arrival just like I did 30 years ago when arrived to North America & never come back!!Show these capitalists how's done!!Don't be shy! No guts no glory,doesn't it?!Happy to touch base in 10 years to continue our discussion if you are still around. No problema.

[@ryanosterman2651]

@@ilyagulag nobody cares about your experience it doesn’t give you the right to make bad faith arguments. Besides were not talking about North Korea or Cuba which the state owns everything Wolff made that clear in this video. As a libertarian market socialist even I would say I would rather live in a capitalist society (unless it’s fascist) where I can organize the way I wish rather than the state have it all for me.

[@My_thoughts_20]

I've been in the US for only 3 years and It's been so painful to see what a political system like capitalism has done in the US in recent years. The concept of the American Dream is no longer applicable to Europeans but to people from 3rd world countries. Understandably more Americans follow the "Portuguese dream" these days. Ah, I miss Marianne's events in NY, they had such a special ambiance full of love for every being. In my country education is free too, it's free in most of Europe... It's crazy how I can walk on a beautiful beach in Rockaway in Queens and a nice street in Brooklyn and suddenly there is a neighborhood with loads of garbage everywhere... and it's obvious that everyone there had no access to education. Back home everyone goes to school, no one would dare to throw any garbage on a street, yes people are educated but it creates another problem of not having enough jobs at their intellectual level. Either way, free education still wins. It breaks my heart to see such an obvious gap in different social levels in communities in NY. Tourists don't get to see the real NY... Back home there was no such a thing as a good or bad neighborhood when I was growing up, whereas in NY if you want to live in a clean area with educated people you have to work your ass off to afford the rent. Money over free time.

[@zardoz1160]

This was an amazing interview. I didn't know how much I needed to hear this.

[@isabt4]

Thank you for this very important conversation! Thank you for your Voices! Although we are living very troubling times, and you point out the dangers, you have also given a message of hope ❤️

[@jaykay415]

I haven't felt this encouraged probably since 2016. Your perspectives help me feel unstuck, better able to disconnect from this particular time, and see leftism in a longer timeline. 🙏🏼

[@jacodogman]

Delusion will do that to you.

[@jaykay415]

@@jacodogman but it's a nice feeling

[@compassioncampaigner728]

@@jacodogman No, your creation of 6 people having more wealth than 1/2 the country is a motivation and will do that to you.. You know, wealth like the pharaohs had.

[@kittybrowneye3163]

Well I'm glad you're unstuck but if you believe this nonsense you know nothing of history, communists whisper to you sweet nothing's right before they kill millions

[@kittybrowneye3163]

@@compassioncampaigner728 cronie capitalism isn't capitalism and you know what happens if we go socialist? Yeah the cronies get more power and more money, there's a reason the "revolution" is supported by the establishment and every major corporation and it's not because they'd lose money. It's unbelievable the stupidity of your movement. We can all agree there are problems but the left is actively working against itself

[@lewisstreet7266]

Good interview: the interviewer did a fabulous job: she didn’t interrupt her guest!

[@zoghunter82318]

She should have, because these small hat parasites ARE THE PROBLEM...

[@lengould9262]

Not interrupting is not automatically better. If the speaker goes off on nonsense the interviewer must redirect them.

[@jgalt308]

@@lengould9262 Actually her questions took Wolff completely off his normal capitalism is the cause of everything rant...almost to the point where one might believe he was close to understanding what "capitalism" was...but he'll be right back to ranting when he is preaching to the choir of his cult.

[@TheGerogero]

A lamppost would be a good interviewer eh.

[@ryanosterman2651]

@@jgalt308 capitalism is literally the cause of a lot of the problems we face today. Climate change, housing crisis, inflation, massive wealth and income inequality that’s causing problems for lower class people, etc. Wolff did a great job in this interview.

[@jamesmacaulay4064]

Marianne, your interviews are fantastic, and has become a must-have for my daily internet consumption. Every one of your audience recognizes the superiority of your interviewing style, the penetrating nature of your informed questions and the authenticity of your character, personality and presentations.

[@heyitsmichael6256]

Just another European Marxist parading as a Democrat . Wake up Democrats . These people that have taken over the Democratic Party. Radical Left. No U.S. President ever gave them power with the exeption of President Biden. Williamson actually thanks Biden for defeating Trump. We had it good. Look where were at now. Inflation, High crime, exaggerated Racism, Gender identity's. Replacement Marxism. Replace Capitalism, the Constitutional . Dont listen to this wind bag.

[@brodieofficial]

Here here 🎉

[@user-bd4bo4tb8u]

Dr. Gabor Mate has been saying capitalism makes us sick for some time.

[@Mushubeans]

He was on Tucker's show a while ago and tried to say that. Tucker cut him off and ended the conversation immediately lol

[@ravanti5780]

This isn't capitalism, this is an autocracy

[@AndySutioso]

Hi there, could you point out in which conversation did Dr Gabor speak of this? Thanks in advance. 🙏

[@lafuerza113]

@@AndySutioso Dr. Gabor Mate has been saying this for some time and a few years back was going to write a book on how Capitalism creates addicts and feeds addictions. It has not been published as yet. Dr. Mate has extensive knowledge & experience working with drug addicts in Canada. Sorry, I do not have a link for you. There are many KZbin lectures & conversations available.

[@l.w.paradis2108]

@@ravanti5780 Capitalism is an oligarchy. It is a concentration of economic power in a few hands. If you think this has anything to do with Adam Smith's notion of a free market, then I'm not sure where you got that idea. Smith warned against the rentier class, as it could create more distortions in the economy than governments do. In his time, the creeping power of the aristocracy was his worry. Nor did he believe the Invisible Hand applied to every market. He believed that in any market where it does work, it must be allowed to work, without interference from government or any private combination of oligarchs. We have the latter, and it has captured the former. Adam Smith would be an improvement.

[@thomanderson7981]

Ms Williamson is so polished & sophisticated. Love her inquisitive mind & openness to new ideas.

[@puppetsock]

Yes. The blood stains in her frock are appropriate for somebody advocating socialism. Which murdered at least 100 million people in the 20th century.

[@vktor5730]

@@puppetsock And, capitalism has led to(and is still leading to) the deaths of just as many if not more than 100 million people in the past three centuries, but I guess you forgot to mention that part

[@puppetsock]

@@vktor5730 You say that. But you lie. As communists do from time to time.

[@thalesnemo2841]

@@puppetsock Another factually wrong comment from an unlettered commentator with no historical perspective. Capitalism is an unstable exponential economic system on a finite planet which flies in the face of basic logic and basic maths!

[@puppetsock]

@@thalesnemo2841 "Factually wrong comment from an unlettered commentator with no historical perspective." You should check the bulb in that projector.

[@scroopynooperz9051]

A beautiful, inspiring and thought provoking discussion. Thanks Marianne and Prof. Wolff. I always give Bernie a hard time for being such a weakling and always snatching defeat from the jaws of victory, but perhaps i'm being unkind - if nothing else, he did elevate the possibility of progressive policy to the national consciousness. Also, now I know why Jeremy Corbyn's Labour Party was uniformly smeared on their last run. That worker coop funding program they envisioned would have been a game changer.

[@matthewkopp2391]

Sanders never had a chance even if it looked like in moments he did. But he did reveal how the political machine works to shut people like him out. And he did raise people‘s awareness. The real revolution will happen outside of representative government. Sadly things will get worse before it gets better. Why do I say that. Here is one example. Even Sanders is obliged to say things which are false for the US empire. For example his criticism of Maduro was unfair and untrue. And Sanders knows it. But he said it out of enormous political pressure. Now ironically Maduro is no longer a viscous dictator, he according to the media „embraced capitalism“. Venezuela was always a capitalist country and Maduro was never a dictator. The entire US political machine is set up to punish leaders foreign and domestic from doing anything remotely „socialistic“. People can start cooperative now and build on it, in any way. And that can happen outside of government. And there will also be political opportunities.

[@1954cgn]

This is the conversation that the American society isn't having. We need intellectual and open debate on how economies work and who's pulling the strings. Dr. Wolff is a breath of fresh air.

[@joanhalgren3502]

Marianne, this is probably your most fabulous podcast to date since it touches the lives of all Americans from shore to shore and beyond! I back everything you both discussed and encourage all young people to work toward a truly cooperative-style democracy! This must happen to make our system resilient: transform capitalism, improve our democracy and save our Earth too--all with the people rising to meet our historic challenge. I am in!

[@diananovak8029]

You are so naive. You live in a bubble. These idiots will make life horrible

[@AdaptableAutonomousHouse]

Empire of debt is collapsing burying our children with it!

[@lorrainewest7408]

@@diananovak8029 you need to listen to Monetary Institute talks, World Banker Talks, Read more and find out who is really being naive, and caught by sharks hook, line and sinker, unless you are Globalist. Geo political Control.

[@joanhalgren3502]

@@AdaptableAutonomousHouse Personal debt is different than our federal debt with the purse strings run by Congress. While a bigger, related issue is U.S. corporations avoiding taxes that doesn't help America or the people.

[@soubhikmukherjee6871]

@@joanhalgren3502 Make your friends aware of the unhealthy manifestations of run amok capitalism too. Change must happen now.

[@eclecticbeing]

Excellent conversation!!! It feels incumbent on me to add that though yes we have experienced innovation and achievements, much of that came about through exploitation of many, many countries through bribes, threats, election interference and military interventions and support for coups that have caused so much destruction and misery. The other thing is that when I returned to the U.S. in 1984 after over 4 years in Chile, I was appalled at the yuppies and consumerism and total disregard for pollution. I actually thought the middle class was decadent. Now the middle class has been disappearing and we are somewhat approaching what the rest of the world experiences. So, the military industrial complex is now treating U.S. citizens more and more like the way they treat citizens of foreign countries.

[@l.k.2337]

Carol, Great comment.

[@blucantrell2]

Chris Hedges has a similar sentiment and discusses the end of empire, where the military forces and suppression that used to be only exerted abroad comes home.

[@MrDXRamirez]

I wouldn't say 'much' of that wealth (you also have to be mindful there are two kinds of wealth, 'natural' wealth as distinct from 'social wealth'.), through bribes and corruption, I'd say bribes and corruption is the way capital accumulates itself, gets larger in quantity through conflict. All of that wealth is derived through destruction and misery. The way capitalism breaks societies up is through breaking down the old methods of production of those societies, once you break up the way people have been working for centuries, you break up the community and separate family units dependent on markets for their subsistence is what the old communities become, through crime, murder, robbery, police confrontation, riots, rebellions, drugs, prostitution, gun proliferation, at the street level and they end up like us at the political level where people are enriched when there is a drought or a catastrophe and crisis. Breaking down communal landownership property of old world communities like Afghanistan and much of the world had been working for centuries in the same manner for the production of the necessaries of life and subsistence goes through a massive conversion into private property by means of force, invasions, destabilization, corruption. The US military had been used for this purpose in all wars post WWII. The only difference between ourselves and the exploited masses of the world is our material level of life is higher indicating we are a social paradox relative to the oppressed; we have the productive power but not the will or intelligence to emancipate mankind from the relation of man's exploitation of man, how shallow we have become to abandon such a quest.

[@eclecticbeing]

@@MrDXRamirez As each person emancipates their own self and becomes empowered, and cooperates with other emancipated persons, a time may come (or not) when a critical mass of empowered people change the world. It will happen consciously and peacefully.

[@MrDXRamirez]

@@eclecticbeing Not in our lifetime.

[@edwardmemwah1610]

Wow. I think this is the most mellow I've ever heard Richard Wolff. Great conversation.

[@marcianneaikau8776]

Wonderful, beautiful conversation! Thank you both, for those mentioned, as well as your insight of past events, and the now of the situations we face in the future. Knowledge can help truth win!

[@mariannorton4161]

I want to add this. Higher education in the US has gone to hell in a hand basket. I first went to school in the late 70's early 80's and learned a great deal, especially critical thinking. I returned in the mid 2000s and it was horrible. The mind set and the minds were as weak as I've ever seen. I can't imagine it's improved over time so not only are students in debt forever, they are in debt for a worthless education.

[@007kingifrit]

yes we send too many kids to college and 48% of them don't use their degree to find work.....and this idiot in the video is saying its great we send so many kids to college. it isn't. its a symptom of too much faith in academia academics talk about ideas......but they don't have to deal with their consequences

[@raykirkham5357]

Marian Norton: In great majority of the educational systems in America we were never taught critical thinking. We were instead propagandized from a very young age (Kindergarten forward). In the 50's we were constantly propagandized and brainwashed about the so called freedom we have in America. There can be NO FREEDOM IN ANY EMPIRE. I an 78, and was taught a whole barrel full of lies in my early education. I was able to see through that on my own at the time. My parents just wanted me to focus on social acceptance. I simply never accepted the lie of the WONDER OF CAPITALISM. CAPITALISM is simply a word the rich use to hammer profits out of the other classes through the control of the" elected government," We were never beseeched to indulge in critical thinking. We were in fact punished whenever that quality raised its ugly head within us as caused us to doubt the WONDER OF CAPITALISM.

[@mariannorton4161]

@@raykirkham5357 You are not wrong in any way at all. I think while capitalism was better regulated we had more chances to at least own something from our labor. Today, we are nothing but slaves who are ever more brianwashed into believing it is a good a fair system.

[@dmaze8457]

Grade inflation is a major factor in the drop in standards. A grade of C today was an F in former times.

[@raykirkham5357]

@@dmaze8457 So you actually think our schools ever treated us to anything but lies? Only in the matter of technical matters, but even that is falling apart because of the cost of the wars our leaders keep going to keep the contractors making profits.

[@sharonmedeiros9819]

I have so much respect for Marianne. She has a place in politics today and her voice and ideas are necessary if we are going to have a chance to turn things around. Only compassion, understanding and cooperation will save us now.

[@nobodynowhere21]

I have a framed portrait of Marianne in my home. She's one-of-a-kind

[@andrefasset3266]

As a Canadian, watching the American reporting on the presidential race, I now appreciate just how much the media is controlled by the wealthy, and how enormously they were able to smear Marianne. Most of America is hypnotized, and doesn't realize it.

[@steveborchers2080]

She is a vaxxer and doesn’t know the deep state fascist communists or J’s.

[@sharonmedeiros9819]

@@steveborchers2080 troll

[@steveborchers2080]

@@sharonmedeiros9819 controlling insecure B. Karen. Bam 💥 B fair, i only pointed out what she does not understand, like u.

[@yuanhaochue2889]

Prof. Wolff, u are a gem as an academic n public intellectual, how I wish u can travel n give lectures both to East n Western to narrate your very in-depth reference to Western socio economic governance n the fundamental nuance between West n East especially the scenario for decline or progress!.

[@rocktech7144]

Now you see why people like Marianne and Richard are SO important to have around us to listen to. The way she helped Prof. Wolfe clarify and target our understanding of his ideas is priceless. THIS is how democracy is meant to work. Wake up America.

[@TigerLilyGzzTLRoars]

Democracy is two wolves and a sheep deciding what's for supper. Ben Franklin.

[@ExpatZ266]

@@TigerLilyGzzTLRoars Ben was chock full of bad ideas and pithy ill thought out sayings.

[@MarkDemarest]

Marianne is an absolutely MASTERFUL interviewer! WOW. #flawless 🙌🏼 And after watching Professor Wolff maybe hundreds of times over the years, I must say (IMO) this was his best 61 minutes ever. 💪🏼 On a sidenote, I particularly liked, admired, and appreciated his last 2 1/2 minutes. #ScholarAndGentleman 👍🏼

[@TheNemesis442]

simp more.

[@TheNemesis442]

@@orionsshoe2424 simps are gonna simp

[@JagadanandaDas]

I said something quite similar above.

[@jenbloom6848]

When you talk FDR, New Deal, Soc Sec, you have to talk about Frances Perkins. She was his Sec of Labor and first woman to be a cabinet member. Read Kirstin Downey’s “The Woman Behind the New Deal.”

[@TeaParty1776]

25M unemployed. Another Marxist victory.

[@comradelarry2558]

@@TeaParty1776 No that number would be a capitalist loss at the feet of their system, 25 million didn't wind up unemployed because socialists policies of the 1920s, it was failure of capitalism.

[@jgalt308]

@@comradelarry2558 Sorry dear, it was just another FAILURE OF GOVERNMENT...made worse by the Marxists...check out the "great depression of 1920/21." that followed a "real pandemic".

[@yenya76]

I will research her. Thank you for that information.🙏❤️

[@kathypiazza7228]

Thanks for this, I didn’t know that he had women in his administration. Knew Eleanor went out on his behalf but other than expenses she wasn’t paid. I am going to read this book. Again thanks for the info.

[@NoName-yb1iv]

I really appreciated Marianne's question specifically about Elizabeth Warren because I happen to like Elizabeth Warren and approve of how she presents herself in order to promote what is essentially a socialist agenda. I'm glad to see Professor Wolff validate my feelings.

[@kindface]

There aren't enough honest voices like Wolff's around, in America or the rest of the world. I always enjoy listening to him because I learn so much. His intellect is very accessible; everyone understands what he says

[@carefulcarpenter]

I respect these thinkers and their values. I want to mention---- as a harworking, creative, compassionate, and cooperative, self-employed designer/craftsman I was always seeking customers like Mr. Wolf and Ms Williamson. They, and people who cherish these values, never called me for an estimate. I love the talking points but I just never experienced anyone who was looking for a craftsman that lived by these principles in the realm of the common good. I don't recall anyone this socially conscious ever contacting me through my channel. I show some of my philosophy and my work in the few videos I did a decade ago trying to use social media to promote these principles.

[@wynstansmom829]

yes, you have some thoughtful videos, and now I want flapjacks and bacon. (to Sir with Love)...Namaste' carefulcarpenter

[@carefulcarpenter]

@@wynstansmom829 Glad you caught that Sir Mom!

[@jgalt308]

You were promoting "principles"? Sounds like you are selling a product...with a marketing strategy that didn't appeal to your target market or who you thought was your target market. In the real world, if you can produce something someone wants, then the rest is determined by quality and price.

[@808Wood]

Vacations 5 weeks?! I am 50 years old. I have had exactly 1 payed vacation in my entire life. I went to North Carolina up in the mountains. It was 1995....Covid has been the closest thing to a vacation since then. Only this has been filled with fear, disbelief and uncertainty. Just like the rest of my life.

[@RussCR5187]

That's pretty harsh even for capitalism. It sounds like you'd be in favor of a different economic system.

[@rocktech7144]

Harsh is the greed and dehumanizing economic slavery that is imposed on our lives by corporate creeps.

[@joakim1159]

It’s the same system of all Scandinavia countries where I’m living.

[@sheilayungk7815]

Marianne, So glad that you have a podcast. You are an intelligent interviewer. We need people like you. Bravo!!!

[@quicksite]

Perfectly paired: Marianne's nuts & bolts knowledge-base is far more vast than i'd thought, and she's a superb listener. Professor Wolf is so perfectly articulate and what makes his answers or presentations so effective in registering with such a vast spectrum of people is his built-in teaching structure of "I'm going to tell you my answer and then I'm going to immediately give you tangible explicit examples that illustrate these points". Back to Marianne. There are very few journalists, very few Q & A hosts who can adaptively flow from their originally-prepared Questions and Interview Structure into directions their interviewee may take them, respond meaningfully on-point, whilst still managing the questions she wants her guest to address. We all well know the opposite, for example Brian Stelter types who pretend to listen then mechanically nod their heads with empty pivot words like "Interesting..." before immediately segueing into next sculpted topic-point. Same with Jake Tapper, Jimmy Fallon, Stephanopolous, endless list. Both complement each other which makes the content more interesting and learnable. Kudos to both.

[@carmenlajoie2719]

Pandemic reading Prof Wolff & Chris Hedges. Tx u so much, glad to see u both on RT 🇺🇸. Antiwar journalists are limited

[@danieljohns4044]

Wow. What a beautiful conversation. Richard's an amazing guest, and it seems Marianne has brought out a tone in him I have never seen before. Thank you both!

[@eottoe2001]

Have come back to re-listen to this three months later and there is a lot of wisdom here.

[@cristianoisabel5585]

Richard Wolff keeps improving he's arguments, very beautfully mounted discourse. Good!

[@lepidoptera9337]

What's his argument, besides "The sky is falling! The end is near! Repent! Repent! Repent!"?

[@GB1Kenobi1]

Except that he neverr explains the rubber-meets-road aspect of what he calls capitalism, ie. is the foundational prinicple freedom of association or not? In other words are markets/voluntary exchanges free/open or restricted by force? At one point he asks, "who is actually in charge (parphrased)?" The answer is obvious: it is the folks with guns, the state. Well, that has nothing to do with the freedom of association and exchange. A central bank certainly isn't. He never deals with that fundamental reality. He mentions corporations with never mentioning that corporations are first and foremost a legal creation: they are commercial enterprises that have been granted privileges by the political class that effectively shields them from the 'anarchism' of freed/open markets.

[@lepidoptera9337]

@@GB1Kenobi1 Wow, that was a lot of baloney. Makes me hungry. I am going to make a sandwich now.

[@omarsan18]

I love Italian Co-ops, whenever I'm available to visit, I buy in those stores

[@msbramble176]

I lived in a coop. We ran on consensus and rotated roles. The affect on human dignity in such structures is profound.

[@TeaParty1776]

Dont forget lovable North Korea.

[@kd-mi4mi]

Prof Wolff shows the great importance of knowing and understanding history

[@zoghunter82318]

It's his tribe hiding and lying about history fool

[@kd-mi4mi]

@@zoghunter82318 what in specific do you believe he has lied about?

[@peterblake548]

I am so pleased that the issue of sabbaticals was discussed. This option should be required in vocational schools. I don't think the discussion about the demise of the middle class is complete without a close look at vocational education. However, the very rapid change in technology in house construction, energy conservation, and automobiles demands very frequent re-education of our instructors. To me, a clear way out of the demise of the middle class is to be certain that the people actually working on this most vital stuff are very capable and very promotable.

[@ronrice1931]

"I think -- and I haven't thought this until relatively recently -- I think that there is at this point not much of a way out for this system, that it has exhausted its growth potential." Welcome aboard, Professor. One can only wonder what took you so long to come to this realization. Had you thought Marx wrong until now? To what do we owe the epiphany?

[@samc269]

Richard Wolff , has knowledge and wisdom and dare speaks the truth without self-interest or favours.

[@EarthLightPromotions]

BRILLANT talk Marianne I learned more in 1 hour about American Politics than in all my years in College and High School Wow had no idea it was the socialist movement that helped us to have social security and union now! Thanks so much for having Professor Richard Wolff on today, planning on hearing more of his lectures and reading his books!

[@michigandersea3485]

One of Richard Wolff’s greatest lectures, because he actually explains the means by which we get to his economy of worker self-directed enterprises.

[@mattholsen7060]

When Prof. Wolff says that the key is empowering workers there's an elephant in their room that neither one of them touch: Automation is increasing exponentially. In another ten years we could well see large parts of the population who are simply not needed to make anything or provide any service. How will they keep any power at all?

[@lepidoptera9337]

Workers never had any power and they will never have any. And, yes, soon there won't be any workers.

[@lauriereid4531]

Thank you… Richard Wolff is one of my heroes.. incredible human being

[@torchedearth8547]

A NATIONAL TREASURE, who likely won't be fully celebrated until he's gone...I so admire him!!!! 😇🥰😍😂

[@TheAnticorporatist]

Much as I love Richard Wolfe, he and Bernie suffer from a similar thing; they haven't gotten used to all of their talks being available to all online, and therefore repeat a lot of what we already know. Works for Trumptards with "build a wall", but with those of us with supra room temperature IQs...we wanna hear something new. Love all three of them though :-D

[@IvoMiller]

@@torchedearth8547 amen to that Brother and Sister

[@blackjackreward4456]

@@TheAnticorporatist I like that he doesn't make the mistakes that an otherwise tolerable Chris Hedges commits. I suppose one benefit of repetition is akin to daily exercise or meditation, but I agree with you, good point.

[@blackjackreward4456]

@@torchedearth8547 Speaking of National Treasures of another kind and nation, I miss Christopher Hitchens, minus his mistakes, e.g. Iraq War

[@hilaryporter7841]

The young have educated themselves from the internet, not from the bought and paid for corporate press. I have hope for the future that the young can steer society into starting more cooperative enterprises and them being a huge PART of the 21st century economic MIX. That is the only way forward, a revolution of consciousness. It's nothing to be afraid of, just an evolution of the worker power balance into a more democratic take on capitalism.

[@larserikjohnsen8933]

We don’t need capitalism. Enterprise can exist without turning a profit. Shocking I know.

[@AndySutioso]

Amen to that. Greetings from Indonesia.

[@diananovak8029]

It won’t work

[@hilaryporter7841]

@@diananovak8029 What they have now is what isn't working!

[@correspondencecommittee5746]

Promotion of the internet among the general population has been shaped by PR advertising and bizzness propaganda of this product of the military industrial complex as liberating and democratizing (thanks to the PC revolution begun Silicon Valley garages, for instance), and with no historical memory of how any communications technologies from telegraph and radio to TV and computers within a capitalist social system have all been subject to corporate state monopolization and control. With a majority of people now getting their 'news' of the world from F*ckbook and having their 'research' rigged by Goolag algorithms, the digital (c)age is the latest locus of lies on behalf of bought and paid for mis/disinformation. None more asleep than the woke. (See the doc "Stare into the Lights, My Pretties".)

[@alzhin]

Thank you for the engaging and informative interview Ms. Williamson and professor Wolf! Two things I want to mention: 1) employee-owned businesses that you mentioned, professor, sound like natural replacement for current small businesses. I’m afraid all it will do is reshuffle middle class, but won’t touch main wealth distribution channels. Someone, let me know if you see it differently. 2) Even if it’s possible to co-op truly giant business, like Amazon Web Services for example, the quality of products would decline with time because innovation will not be one of the main focuses. It’s not that I think low about skills of regular people, but under Bezos constant innovation is a matter of survival, which will not be the case under employees’ ownership. Thanks.

[@tenisalot]

don't know why but you are assuming a very simplistic implementation of Wolff's ideas....no one suggests transforming Amazon into a co-op....it will take a few generations for his ideas to start transforming society...the Azermendi Mondragon worker- directed co-op in Spain, started in '57, now has over 100,000 employees, and very effectively competes with traditional corporations...turns out people who are creative (and haven't been turned into automatons by the workplace) innovate...they don't need financial incentive...your notion reflects disdain for human nature and is typical of the financial elite!

[@AwsmNix]

Seeing a video like these between these two absolutely amazing people makes me so happy. These are the conversations Americans need to have and listen too

[@heyitsmichael6256]

Just another European Marxist parading as a Democrat . Wake up Democrats . These people that have taken over the Democratic Party. Radical Left. No U.S. President ever gave them power with the exeption of President Biden. Williamson actually thanks Biden for defeating Trump. We had it good. Look where were at now. Inflation, High crime, exaggerated Racism, Gender identity's. Replacement Marxism. Replace Capitalism, the Constitutional . Dont listen to this wind bag.

[@wanttoseemore4596]

This was a awesome interview. Thank for all your hard wok Prof. Wolff.

[@007kingifrit]

every top comment is just thanking them for the interview, you communists can't discuss anything. and you have no new things to say from one another

[@johnstrawb3521]

Terrible, terrible video title, too typical of Marianne at her worst. You can't "fix" capitalism run amok except by ending it.

[@007kingifrit]

@@johnstrawb3521 capitalism is just me owning my own stuff and deciding what to do with it. it literally means freedom whatever specific problems you see in society.....your problem isn't with freedom

[@user-dr5me1xt4y]

@@007kingifrit Your definition is wrong.

[@007kingifrit]

@@user-dr5me1xt4yno, my definition is right and is far more descriptive than yours you use a marxist definition of capitalism

[@mel8827]

I've learned more in this one hour than in 4 years of college - great show!

[@tompain2751]

This is one side. Have you listened to Jordan Petersen?

[@_-__-_6355]

@@tompain2751 lobsters justify hierarchy

[@nydiacabrera1187]

Why are we always calling U S. América. ? U S. Is a country in América. América Is a continent, US a country in it..Not the same..

[@davidsalcido383]

“Must have been Trump university, LOL 😂 (Ever get your settlement 💰)’ 💰💰💰

[@valeriexoxo]

@@tompain2751 😂

[@TheRealValus]

"Much confusion comes from judging economic policies by the goals they proclaim rather than the incentives they create." - Thomas Sowell

[@psycheread3258]

What amazing educators! We can do better! There is hope for the future of this country!

[@007kingifrit]

academics get to talk about ideas their whole lives. never do they need to implement them.....this makes them wildly impractical people

[@jacobsolace3426]

One of the top problems facing humanity today are those citizens who don't care enough to become well-informed, free of misinformation and disinformation, on all the major issues of today AND/OR are not devoting their time, energy, resources, and talents to the political process, esp the campaigns, to make sure that only the most Loving/most Wise among us become our public servants.

[@jacobsolace3426]

The laws will change when each and every one of gets involved in the political process. Help build a Majority Voting Bloc in the city/town/village where you live. They have blood on their hands. They are complicit in the heinous crimes against humanity and Gaia Mother Earth. They can never ever dare speak of Love, Peace, Joy, or Creativity. The plutocratic families, the corporate oligarchs, and the international banksters, have got them exactly where they want them...out of their way.

[@jacobsolace3426]

Here's my proposal: From the cities to the states to the nation to the world. See my group on Facebook: "Creating a Wonderful World. (let's get it done already)".

[@AutisticSolvigerigntist1776]

some of our issues can be tied back to the ALTLEFT we have a communal capitalist in the white house who also stole the election with fraud. the left and right is dying

[@tracyleighbasham]

The People should never be demonized. They have been propagandized and economically marginalized for so long. Always punch up. 😉

[@jacobsolace3426]

@@tracyleighbasham The main problem, THE #1 PROBLEM, is citizen apathy. The vast majority of progressives, esp. the youth, are not turning out in full force. They simply don't care what is happening in the world today.

[@lesliestenta3084]

I live in Thailand and met so many people from Europe in Muay Thai class that we’re taking 6 months to a year off , just to travel the world. Mostly younger people. They can do this because in Europe they have a great mass transit system, so they don’t need a car. College is free, no student debt. No way in my life have I ever been able to take that much time off.

[@hippychikforever]

@Marisa I haven't had a vacation in 4 years.

[@hermenutic]

Imagine how a Sanders / Williamson ticket would appeal to every family in the nation faced with the need for housing, healthcare, employment and education. That would be about 99% of American families. The American People deserve the chance to consider the choices Sanders and Williamson bring to the table.

[@gladsheep]

Thank you so much Marianne Williamson for running for president. Because of that, I got to hear about you. Your fundamental intuitive understanding and ability to articulate a higher level of consciousness is something that I understand because my language ability is flexible, as are many whom your message was able to touch. Thank you for your activism. You’re an inspiration to me and I’ve barely taken the time to get to know you, yet!

[@korner5701]

Oh my! How long I have longed for these two fav charakters of mine to speak publicly which each other... Thank you Marianne for giving us the opportunity to listen to you two

[@anialiandr]

That guy Wolff is partly responsible for 2008 crisis. he lobbied like crazy to give loans to people who could not repay them. he applied capitalist view on housing for those who need alternatives, also capitalist alternatives but screwy ones. For this you need business experience and wisom. he has none. Just another bernielike loonie, wagging tongue but has no real life projects behind him to back up his wagging.

[@sloburnjo]

@@anialiandr BECAUSE he is an ACADEMIC he has no say in politics with MORE economic WISDOM than you or I.

[@korner5701]

@@anialiandr As far as I know he started 5 businesses. If you have any well-researched article prooving your point about capitalist reactions, I'd happy to read it!

[@brettneuberger6466]

While I wholeheartedly embrace Marianne’s consciousness model, not until she ran for office did I really become familiar with her and recognize how fully she lives her truth. She’s a beautiful role model for anyone who’s discovered the oneness of all - which, by the way, is the critical discovery upon which all else rests. There’s a reason it’s said the highest wisdom we can obtain is to know thyself. Until then, we’ll be operating on the false premise of ego and therefore engaging with the world from the wrong place.

[@nostalgiatrip7331]

Beautiful comment. Have a great day!

[@mcdee56]

Marianne, you impressed me so much by watching how you gave him full reins in speaking, and how you went with that in a very graceful way, I'm impressed how you did this! Many thanks!

[@sabbers77]

I love this conversation. In my opinion, capitalism isn't the enemy of the good (nor is conservatism although I disagree with overcaution). The enemy is greed and corruption. Democratic socialist capitalist societies refuse to allow corruption (money in politics for example) and refuse greed, via progressive tax regimes with NO loopholes, including taxing inheritance as income, which it is.

[@TheLincolnrailsplitt]

For example? Is China a good example?

[@jaybirddee3790]

Thank you both! I feel so fortunate to be able to hear these things! Lots of love to you both!

[@smolderingtitan]

I've never seen Richard look so good, so relaxed and sweet.

[@darthcid66]

Dude me neither! Honestly Marianne was my fav candidate in the election lol she’s amazing

[@dulynoted2427]

Marianne Williamson, brings out the very good in people. And it's not that Professor Wolff isn't. Her demeanor makes anyone shine their best.

[@smolderingtitan]

@@dulynoted2427 she sure does. She's a good model to aspire to. We should all do this for each other.

[@torchedearth8547]

@@dulynoted2427 God put her on this earth to give us hope 🥰

[@collinsfrank1582]

@@torchedearth8547 AWWW! 😇

[@c4tubo]

The most insight that I've heard in years. Everyone needs to hear it.

[@jimdukehart5367]

I feel honored that I stumbled? upon this discussion. Great conversation. Thank you from my heart

[@ObakuZenCenter]

Great to see Professor Wolff dropping truth bombs.

[@aaroncarson1770]

I remember Marianne talking about her father and her uncle arguing good naturedly about socialism and capitalism.

[@allermenchenaufder]

Ah . . . you prolly don't have a clue what they mean.

[@jkane8299]

Richard Wolff as Maryanne's econ. Advisor? That would be fvckin hype! Much respect

[@petes9878]

EVOLUTION! Ever heard of it? He nailed it in the first 4 minutes re: we better get used to the idea, or rather fact, that we're 'in decline'. That's a polite way to describe 'imploding'. It isn't something new that a tiny minority controlled and owned practically "everything". Look back at Roman times and countless other cultures. The masses never had much, if anything at all. So far the ever greedier owners of this world needed 'numbers', consumers, to "keep the economy growing" and stock holders happy. Can that continue as our population is growing while the planet keeps shrinking androbots are doing the work, eliminating jobs, but the - soon to be jobless - people keep making more people? One doesn't have to be an economist to realize that say: your ship lost power in the middle of the Pacific, but you have enough supplies to get by for a while, hoping to get the ship running again soon. Is it smart then to entertain yourself with games like food-eating-contests? That's how we have behaved for a long time, and sped up the process once the industrial revolution (humanity's savior) got up to speed. What kind of solution can be expected from a species that lives so far in the future, that it trades in soybean and pork futures? We began losing ground since we first decided to no longer live IN balance with our environment, but to manipulate it to serve us. That might have seemed like a good idea then, when the world population was a mere 4 million. Little could we imagine THEN, that today, shy of 8 BILLION people, the system of raping the environment would come to an end. EVOLUTION, in spite of all our scientific achievements, we have completely unlearned to live intelligently. No passing grade for behavior like this :- /

[@jjkk8974]

In Austria, not only my tuition was Zero, I had health insurance for me, my children, n my husband who was unemployed at the time; I also had a student card for bus n train for free. Plus, we paid very little for meals which were healthy, fresh, n delicious. You could be student at any age. There is a saying: communists n capitalists are oppositions n enemy, but they unite in opposing socialism! Why?? Because the control n power of a minority is not the case in socialism. However, names are only part of the systems, within each there can be more of the other isms...in practice. Thank you both for discussing such subjects that are becoming too late to transform n make positive changes...

[@lorrainewest7408]

So I guess it is Power to The People.

[@pduronhamiltonarch]

Yay! Two people who actually care about the lives of the middle and working classes in America. Mad respect for both! Along with the Weinstein brothers, these are REAL patriots who risk personal well being to advocate for their countrymen and countrywomen

[@vawan9160]

Exactly

[@jbawz358]

Too people

[@pauljames7936]

👍🏿

[@SimonAshworthWood]

Most people are working class. Richard Wolff cares about us working class people.

[@justthinking526]

Add Chris Hedges to your group

[@jmh9676]

This was a fantastic discussion. Thank you Marianne!

[@007kingifrit]

there are so many brain dead people in these comments just calling the conversation fantastic with no analytical input of their own say something important or don't respond at all

[@lindascanlan6317]

Simply marvelous ....Marianne I owe you an apology for not listening more closely to you when you declared your candidacy....my fault ...you are remarkable ....thank you ....Linda

[@007kingifrit]

marvelous? she just says really emotional things and agrees with whatever her guest says. sorry but only a woman would fall for this. think coldly; be analytical. do not use your emotions.

[@sidd_123]

Thanks Marianne for this conversation with Wolff! I think his message needs to be heard more

[@russellgallman7566]

I've erased my initial comment. When I hear the term "debt" tossed around that does not immediately distinguish between "public debt" and "private debt," it cuts me like a knife. My apologies to you both. And I managed to sit through the entire interview in spite of the parts that were annoying for me personally. Thank you both for your voices and your contributions.

[@answersquestioned]

Great guest, great conversation. Thank you Marianne ❤️ for all you do.

[@paulyayala2645]

WOW JUST SO SIMPLE AND YET SOOO REVOLUTIONARY!!!!! THESE TWO SHOULD BE AT THE FOREFRONT OF GOVERNING OUR ENTIRE WORLD!!! PROFESSOR AND MARIANNE MAY GOD BE WITH YOU BOTH AND YOUR FAMILIES AS WELL…

[@nievesrivera652]

Completely new to me but how enlightening! I've been shown models that are ready made solutions for a just world. Most appreciative for this interview

[@Tamar-sz8ox]

Great discussion ❤️ I’ll add … The French 🇫🇷 also will tell you they have fought very hard for their standard of living . Eg last year public transportation workers went on strike , people rallied in the streets … and you walked for miles to work or to school in Paris The money made in the USA 🇺🇸 lines the pockets of a few people , it doesn’t go back into infrastructure etc like it does in other countries

[@benwebster8943]

Philosophically I agree with professor Wolff. My experience as a small business owner was that over many years I attempted to grow a culture within my business with the goal being employee ownership. I was unable to find enough employees who wanted to engage with the totality of issues that business ownership entail.

[@gothboschincarnate3931]

They are small drones.....they are not used to the idea. You will have to educate them and greatly encourage them. It not easy to grow beyond your original programming....

[@InnerSunshine]

at minute 47 Richard explains why Italy has teh most most worker co-ops. Eight unemployed workers can ask the gov to give them their unemployment for a year IF they use it to start a worker-owned co-op.

[@Lisa-my5sy]

Italy’s young adults are leaving the south of the country in droves due to no opportunities

[@AggieL48]

Professor Wolff is looking great, and as always, BRILLIANT!

[@shanviwaris]

He is a man who speaks simple language 🙏🏻

[@elingrome5853]

​@@shanviwaris so simple, any malleable young college student could follow... of course its mostly nonsense.

[@TheArtOfFreedom1]

Well expressed truth! Much thanks to both of you. Professor Wolff has earned a follow from me via Twitter. I had not heard of your scholarship until this interview with Marianne.

[@tombradburn3935]

Check him out on KZbin. Tons of talks to digest.

[@TheArtOfFreedom1]

@@tombradburn3935 I will. Thank you!

[@davidirving8669]

Adam Smith warned that unless the invisible hand of the market is regulated, it will lead to gross inequality, and that financial inequality has always led to RUIN.

[@christophermclaren6901]

We do need to redefine slavery in this modern age. Debt slavery needs to be seen as an aggressive form of devolution. For millennia slavery has been the basis of many economic models. Have we really changed that much in these modern times?

[@gothboschincarnate3931]

how many times you re-incarnated?