7 Days To Die - Vehicle Speed - Which is Fastest? You might be surprised! (Alpha 19)

[@BrokenCans]

Black Mesa and Aperture have *nothing* on #CappNation Science. And as an added bonus, you're even more articulate than Cave Johnson. :-D

[@capp00]

Awww Thanks man

[@frostyflames7864]

That was a joke; haha, fat chance

[@capp00]

@@frostyflames7864 Maybe to you.

[@dphalanx7465]

@@frostyflames7864 Hey, at least he's not ranting about Lemons...

[@BrokenCans]

@@dphalanx7465 Ask to see life's manager! 😂

[@Callypso32]

Tested with my friend today (on A21 patch) and me on motorcycle and him on 4x4 same mods, stayed side by side for a good 30 seconds showing exact same speed or low enough not to be noticeable, or worthy of mention. I'm keeping the bike because the 4x4 is less handy to drive in narrow roads (ex city streets etc), turns better and i never fill up completely the storage of the 4x4 anyway.

[@W1se0ldg33zer]

Should have tested out your running speed when jacked up on energy drink too. I suspect you're moving faster than the bicycle.

[@petemoss8245]

Great point.......would be nice to see the difference between Mega Crush, Black Strap coffee and and steroids on the (Heel. Toes Express) run and the bicycle

[@thediceygamer9043]

Err I don't know about the others but I note no difference with the energy drink

[@Tonisaka]

Should test Max run speed, steroid, performance shoe, college jacket, mega crush

[@natebetzen]

What does the college jacket do? I'm looking at the wiki, and it just mentions it being good for hot and cold.

[@Tonisaka]

@@natebetzen 10% faster running

[@rokturi]

wait the steroids and mega crush are different buffs? they dont stack?

[@Tonisaka]

Idk haven't played the game in months, but I feel like they will the game usually stacks everything

[@iamgoat5863]

That 4x4 going full speed backwards and forwards must've been created by Big Rigs people.

[@Derekloffin]

Nah, if it was Big Rips, the 4x4 would go faster in reverse with no limits :)

[@Melabor]

Capp, build a platform for the Gyro so that you get instant air upon take off and when you get to the finish line just hit E to insta-drop. Should give you results to compare to ground vehicles.

[@AnarchoCatBoyEthan]

Really great idea, maybe one of us should do this to see the results. Capp here has already done the vid, I doubt he wants to make this follow up on only the gyro ya know?

[@chriswhinery925]

@3:20 The minibike is barely faster than the bicycle, EXCEPT, you can't stay at top speed on the bicycle forever. You eventually have to slow down and pedal at normal speeds to regenerate stamina. On longer trips any of the powered vehicles will be significantly faster than the bicycle just for this reason. I like the 4x4 because I'm a pack rat and I love having effectively infinite space. Speed wise though motorcycle all the way. Even though the truck may technically have a slightly faster max speed on roads, the motorcycle is MUCH better at going off road which means you can cut across the countryside and in most cases that's going to get you to your destination much faster than using the roads with the 4x4 even if it's max speed is a little higher.

[@Aeis_Kalt]

Motorcycle also allows you to cut between buildings in the towns/cities, which the truck can't, you have to go around.

[@ThatGuyTom717]

Think about it though, the stage you're at in the game when you have a bike I'm pretty positive you're not going to have a blackstrap to drink everytime you ride. So you have to account for the slowdown to refill your stamina into your times. The bike is way slower than your numbers.

[@capp00]

I was doing best-case scenario

[@thephoenix8739]

I think the motorcycle just always felt faster because it’s smaller and it’s turn radius. It’s funny how our perception can even be effected on a video game just as it is in real life lol

[@capp00]

Right?! And maybe a different camera angle making it feel faster? Who knows.

[@ThomasABB]

Great video Capp, love the scientific testing For those of us, that don't understand the imperial measurements, it converts to: 35.14 km/h for the bicycle (insane, considering that the average speed of the Tour De France is 39.6 km/h) 35.36 km/h for the minibike 47.44 km/h for the motorcycle 48.17 km/h for the 4x4

[@CapObv]

The top speeds aren't the only factor. Torque and acceleration are factored in too.

[@stephanstangl2388]

We do understand it. We just prefer to use a more logical system. :P

[@ThomasABB]

@@stephanstangl2388 That was, what I was trying to implie xP Probably should have wrore it in a different way

[@madscientist6183]

@@ThomasABB 'For those of us, who are lazy enought for multiplaying every number by 1.6 and adding "k" before "m" in "m/h" '.....

[@dra6o0n]

IRL bikes are actually very very efficient means of travel if you are quite fit, they do go pretty fast when on light loads, but in a survival situation you gotta be hauling lots of loads so I'd expect it to go half as fast, but can speed up and move with fast momentum due to the weight.

[@AstralNightVA]

Teacher: you'll need math in the future, me: well would you look at that, I guess i did need math

[@justin.s9783]

the motorcycle is the coolest though in my opinion lol. and it uses less gas. the 4x4 does carry more. i'm excited for the new trucks/cars they have in the works. i would like to see the deuce and half, that could maybe carry a work station or 2 in the back so you could craft on the move. good vid

[@dphalanx7465]

They're doing a 2-1/2 tonner!?! Holy crap! I like your idea of using it as a mobile base. It could hold a workstation & your sleeping bag. It should insta-crush any non-radiated zombie it hits (and any animal except a bear). And being made of 85% steel (with some glass, rubber, and electrical/mech parts), its HP should be insane!

[@justin.s9783]

@@dphalanx7465 they said they are working on new vehicles . i think there was a screen shot showing a 6x6. to me a 2 1/2 is logical sense the model of one is already in game. i'm mainly hoping

[@jaksilver3656]

so factoring speed + fuel efficiency + storage space together: motorcycle wins

[@blainebickle1178]

If I have enough gas I would still go with the truck for speed and mostly storage space

[@toysoldier46552]

@@blainebickle1178 Idk, the motorcycle still offroads better than the 4x4 from my experience with both vehicles.

[@blainebickle1178]

@@toysoldier46552 yeah that may be so. I try to not off road too much

[@toysoldier46552]

@@blainebickle1178 In my latest random gen map, the one road has in incline that I'd need to break apart or make a ramp at a very less steep angle. Not sure what the generation was doing but that isn't a road, more like a mountainside lol.

[@dphalanx7465]

@@blainebickle1178 Truck speed vs M-cycle is so little, Carrying is the only true metric for decision.

[@jeffm68]

Nice test, but it won't change my mind that bicycle + gyrocopter is the best transport combo in the game. Fly to a town, use the bicycle to loot and load the gyro, fly back to base and unload. Rinse and repeat. Any other vehicle is second rate at best, because you're slowed down by rough terrain and janky roads.

[@Yenecol]

This is neat for historical purposes. In Alpha 20 they straight up tell you their speed and you can put a mod in them to make them even faster.

[@Muazen]

1:13 "What I'm going to do is I'm going to involve some scientific processes here..." *bike slowly falls down* This felt so sad to me somehow. But great job, really enjoyed this video. You're like 7dtd Mythbusters.

[@steel_axe5959]

You should do a test to see what vehicle drives better when off-road on rough terrain or up hill

[@Zach8264]

most definitely the motorcycle and 4x4 do way better than the minibike and bicycle.

[@calvinrosehart7042]

@@Zach8264 Motorcycle outperforms the 4x4 anytime it requires accelerating or weaving between say piles of iron and bricks in the wasteland...

[@Zach8264]

@@calvinrosehart7042 I mean sure, depending on the driver probably. I don't steer around anything. I was mostly saying that those 2 compared to the minibike and bicycle are far superior going over any kind of rougher terrain. It's a miserable time trying to take either the minibike or bicycle out into the grasslands over a hill to dig up a treasure. The motorcycle and 4x4 don't even notice even half the crap that'll straight stop the other 2.

[@calvinrosehart7042]

@@Zach8264 Fair point, but here's my counter offer... motorcycles are cool... :p

[@Zach8264]

@@calvinrosehart7042 my kid and I agree.

[@corwinhyatt519]

~8mph feels like a fairly negligible difference between the fastest and slowest unless your driving from one side of the map to the other. To me this test actually lends to the minibike being the best choice unless you really have to have the extra storage capacity.

[@brodriguez11000]

Easier to getting away from those vultures.

[@GwenHembrock]

Sorry you didn't just get airborne and then head down the street to the start line and time it as you went over the start and stop. My impression is the gyro is much faster, but it would have been fun to see if that was really the case and by how much. Oh well. No surprises otherwise.... well, except for truck in reverse, lol.

[@PREPFORIT]

Wow, I was not expecting the bicycle to be basically the same speed as the minibike !

[@capp00]

Me either!

[@friendfromouters5943]

This is very helpfull

[@Spartan85]

Super useful video, never would have guessed the jeep was faster than the motorcycle, I just figured it had better storage. Thanks for putting in the work on this test cap

[@alanea5860]

it used to be slower than moto .. they buffed speed to match it but its still far inferior vehicle due to size and clumsiness

[@AndrewTheFrank]

Every time I've run a truck next to a bike on a server the truck always pulls out ahead very convincingly. The advantage the bike has is that it gets stuck on terrain far less which means more direct paths can be taken. But that is what the gyro is for.

[@ignatriuslongola9045]

Sooo....when are you redoing this one? For A20. Incl all the different mods too. And maybe do a race with fastest land vehicle vs gyro over a 5 or 6 km stretch perhaps?

[@Lvcian_Guardian]

I'm very grateful as an American he was able to convert things to a measurement I can actually understand.....Thank you my friends up north for at least understand 'Freedom Units' enough to properly convert things.

[@mathewpoole3589]

One factor that you've left out, is that most people go off road most of the time to shorten the distance traveled. For that reason, the motorcycle may very well be faster pending on terrain traversed. I personally find that the Jeep gets caught up on things more often, and it tends to bottom out on more inclines then the motorcycle.

[@capp00]

Then it wouldn't be a Fastest Vehicle test, which is determined by speed. That would be an off-road efficiency test. :)

[@mathewpoole3589]

@@capp00 Motorcross is a test of speed :p

[@nellywilde1911]

I love that you did the travel music for each. I am shocked as I always thought the 4x4 moved super slow.

[@capp00]

Glad you like it!

[@peerhenry]

You can actually open vehicles.xml in your game files to read the velocity values, they are as follows: (first number is normal speed, second is with shift held down) bicycle: 5, 10 minibike: 7, 10 motorcycle: 9, 14 truck: 9, 14 gyrocopter: 9, 15

[@capp00]

And I've made a decent success on my channel showing how what is in the XML files, or even what is on the screen in the text, doesn't mean that's what happens in-game. I can rename the zombie to "murder-death-exploding-mutants", doesn't mean the engine changes how they work.

[@heliumphoenix]

Starting from a complete stop makes these results incorrect. You need a run BEFORE the "start line" to reach top speed and start the timer as you CROSS the start line. Otherwise, the number of gears, the acceleration of those gears, and other factors affect the "average speed".

[@capp00]

The problem is, this is a video game, there is no way to possibly know when any of the vehicles have reached Max Acceleration, so there is no way to know how far back to drive, how long to drive before measuring. If I had a way to know when a vehicle was at max speed, I wouldn't have had to do this test. Just like drag racing, they start from a stop at the same time and measure in time.

[@heliumphoenix]

@@capp00 - While it IS a game, we know from the config files for vehicles how many gears each has. And you can hear the sound of the motor rise in pitch as each gear winds up. Get on a straight stretch, from a complete stop, time how long it takes to reach full wind (the engine noise doesn't increase in pitch anymore) after all gears have gone through. Then determine the distance each takes on flat ground to do it. That gives you the run-up distance for each vehicle. It won't be precise....but it'll be a lot more accurate than what you've done in this video.

[@heliumphoenix]

@@capp00 - The other option is to give a HUGE distance to cover and time, so that the time required for the "run-up" to full speed is a very small fraction of the total time. Using the new Nitrogen feature of "highways", you can go in and repair the roads in a test environment, remove the dead cars/debris, and have several kilometers of straight, level, unobstructed smooth road. It'll take longer for each run, but you'll get much more accurate results.

[@heliumphoenix]

@@capp00 - I took the time finally to test this. I created a 1km long unbroken set of elevated highway in a nitrogen map. I got both a 4x4 and a motorcycle. I had run up distances that approximated the needed distance to reach max speed. I timed from crossing the start line to the finish line (the actual starting point varied depending on distance to reach max speed.) I did three runs on each. I also measured the amount of fuel consumed. The 1000m distance was covered by each in 1:50.5 (110.5 seconds, +/- 0.5 sec) without turbo. The same distance was covered by each in 1:12.2 (72.2 seconds, +/- 0.5 sec) with turbo. In EVERY case, each one was within margin of error of 14 m/s top speed with turbo and 9 m/s top speed without turbo (both within 1% to 2% error). This, of course, matches precisely what we would expect, as if you open the vehicle (not the storage, but the stats/mods option) it LISTS the top speed for the vehicle in the stats in the upper left corner. Both the 4x4 truck and the motorcycle have a listed top speed of "14 m/s (fast)", and "moderate" noise level. Or you can look in the "vehicles.xml" config file for the game, and look up the top speeds in it (for both 4x4 and motorcycle), the speeds are 9 m/s without turbo and 14 m/s with turbo. The fuel consumption also matched what was seen in the XML file. For the same top speeds, the fuel consumption of the 4x4 is DOUBLE that of the motorcycle. The run-up to speed takes additional fuel, so there is a higher margin of error here. For the 1000m runs, without turbo on, the 4x4 used 264 units of fuel, where as the motorcycle used 131. So that gives about a 3.78 meters/fuel-unit for the 4x4, and about a 7.63 meters/fuel-unit for the motorcycle. The motorcycle has 36 inventory slots, compared to the 81 of the 4x4, which is a 4 to 9 ratio.....a little more than double the storage of the motorcycle. So, if fuel is scarce, the motorcycle is the better option. If fuel is plentiful, the 4x4 is the way to go. Speed-wise, they are EQUAL (though they reach top speed at different rates, so for very short hops, one might be better than the other.) Now, the really sad part is that the "mph" and "km/h" speeds need to take into account the actual speed of time *in the game* since game-time is (on default) 24 times that of real time. Meaning, that in the 72 real-world seconds it took for each to go 1000m, the game-clock had consumed 28.8 MINUTES of game time! That means, that "in-game", the 4x4 and the motorcycle are both maxing out at 1000m/28.8 minutes, or 0.579 m/s......that's only 2.08 km/h.....or, 1.29 miles per hour! In other words, the speeds in this game are WAY OFF due to the timescale. They're both "maxed" based on what was stable and played well. From the point of view of the player, the speeds are around 31.1 mph (49.9 km/h)....but from the point of view of the game clock, both vehicles MAX out at less than a fast walking speed in the real world.

[@TizonaAmanthia]

I'd consider one or two other tests, like...a 2km stretch of road, which could really give more usable results vs "on paper" results. like how easy is the vehicle to traverse offroad...how much time can you save if you go as the crow flies in a gyro? [vs how much tiem can you loose by crashing into a tree and having to take off again]

[@danzloblaha]

Well we should say that in A20 all motor vehicles got a nice buff, the mods for fuel, speed and others so bicycle is now becoming a serious underdog

[@MikeGrizey]

You are the absolute best. Science, entertainment, and laughs all from one awesome dude.

[@user-tj5yg5pk8v]

The 4x4 is the same speed backwards, and it does not have the grate on the front to get stuck on terrain it's a superior way to drive once you figure out how to do it, it is easy to drive backwards.

[@NerdletteGaming]

The gyrocopter is so good that it is indeed pointless to put it up against these land walkers :D Nice experiment! I for sure never expected the bicycle/truck to be the case :) Love the unexpected

[@saltyshellback]

Have you tried testing each vehicle with the "shift+s" exploit or whatever it was that Josh used with his gyrocopter to extend the fuel range?

[@capp00]

I haven't. I've never used it myself so I'm not even sure how it's done.

[@saltyshellback]

@@capp00 On his last series (extinction) episode day 45 at 7:35-7:45, he says he is holding Shift+W+C+Space bar while flying the gyro and it barely uses any fuel. I wonder if it works for other motorized vehicles? kzbin.info/www/bejne/jJ_EZ2ecgqitatk

[@go7cha459]

Great vid capp

[@josephjohnson6626]

But are the zombies attracted to the sound of the motors versus no sound for the bike?

[@glowter22]

Science! Glad I checked this out, I actually never used my 4x4 yet, so this has changed my perspective!

[@capp00]

Glad it was helpful!

[@glowter22]

@@capp00 Thank you for the reply Capp!! It really was helpful! I hope you stay strong and continue riding! God speed, and God bless!

[@grizzly6018]

sprinting with automatic weapons adrenaline, machine gunner adrenaline, mega crush and steroids all applied at once tops the speed of any vehicle currently in the vanilla game i reckon lmao

[@RichardRitenour0522]

Please continue your scientific ways Capp, great stuff!

[@capp00]

Will do!

[@Spinlayer]

(Apologies for my English) I don't know if physics in this game are too complex, but I think you should do this tests again, but not starting accelerating from stand. I mean, when you start counting you should pass the start line at full speed and reach the finish line at full speed too. What I want to discard is the acceleration. Because i don't think that the bike has the same response as the motorcycle for example.

[@hexerin]

So you specifically stated you'd hold shift with the bicycle, but did you also hold shift with the three motor vehicles? It's not a logical thing, but they also get a speed increase with it.

[@capp00]

Yes

[@jenniferbrown7539]

This is great that I found it today😂 you got it for A20?

[@dethaddr]

That's only because the motorcycle wasn't built by Snarley-Davisson! If it were, it would be the fastest thing in Navezgane!

[@Nygnog]

Did you hold Shift for all runs? Because if you do then the minibike becomes much better than the bicycle the moment you have to travel further simply because you will run out of stamina with the bicycle. The minibike is horrible going uphill though, the bicycle + Shift might actually beat it on steep hills.

[@josephleisses3997]

Professional bicycle riders can maintain about 25 mph, so if the PC can maintain 21, then they're near Olympic Athlete levels of fit.

[@Chris-gr7ll]

Mini bike was as expected, assumed it was the same speed as bike just doesn't cost stam. I do however find it nonsense that motorcycle and 4x4 truck(jeeps are built on truck frames)are incapable of going over 30mph

[@indiecraze5227]

Friendly reminder that openeing up your local files and changing the speed on your vehicle file is amazing, the highesg stable speeds iv achived os 28~30 meters per second

[@capp00]

Yeah, I played with upping the speed in my video trying to jump the buses.

[@indiecraze5227]

@@capp00 honestly i wonder why the speeds are so low i thought falling thru the world was patched

[@ArtistinDeadlight777]

Yeah but I hate modded nerds It's already bad enough the game has 6 difficulties or something

[@Ballissle]

I just keep the motorcycle and gyro in my inventory or in my drone. The motorcycle is great off road and fast and has good carry space. And is great for shorter distance quick travel. The gyro is great for long distance travel cutting over everything and also has a lot of carry space.

[@Raven-Blackwing]

So I wonder how long I have shooting myself in the foot for by never giving the 4x4 the time of day.

[@capp00]

Well it's a good cargo mover. It's fast, but guzzles gas.

[@dphalanx7465]

@@capp00 That's the critical point--you only need the 4X4 if you're going to raid a series of POI's in one day...or one big factory.

[@peterwurst45346]

Actually you can look into these stats of the vehicles by accessing their engine hood in the menu holding e, the speeds fit your measurements quiet good. 10meters per second for bicycle & minibike and 15mps for truck & motorcycle and 14mps for the gyrocopter. Maybe the framedrops did a number on your numbers ;) By the way, did you boost the speed with the vehicles too or just with the bicycle by holding shift? I just did a minimalistic test on the bicycle and sprinting on it brings about 50% more speed and on the vehicles about 25%

[@capp00]

In-game info is notoriously wrong in this game. Which is what began my testing in it several years ago. And I did hold shift the entire time on all of them.

[@newtonjames1620]

Stuff to test you say? since we just got new toolbelt slots... do some weapons do different amounts of damage if they are equipped in different toolbelt slots?

[@capp00]

No, the location doesn't affect the stats at all.

[@jarlgawain8876]

They must have changed things (or if my computer is just loosing more frame rate). I did this test in A18. Here was my results Mini bike: 4.79, 6.73 m/s (normal, boosted) Motorcycle: 6.18, 9.13 m/s 4x4: 6.16, 8.58 m/s So the normal rate for motorcycle and 4x4 were similar but the motorcycle got much more out of the boost. Interestingly you are getting faster overall rates too.

[@mousegirl6817]

Very interesting! Kinda surprised by the bicycle and mini bike results too... Great video

[@nmkurian]

Good to have a scientific answer. I also thought the motorbike was the fastest. Great video.

[@capp00]

Thank you!

[@khalilsiar5599]

Motorcycle: I'm fast as fuck boi 4x4: still fast as fuck boi Mini bike: come get some hehehe

[@eternalNostalgia]

good comparison :) my fav is still the motorcycle. the 4x4 gets stuck too easy

[@capp00]

Yeah, it can get high-centered on a shadow lol

[@SvenicusGermainus]

If you look in the vehicles.xml file you can see the speeds of the vehicles. Bicycle - 5 normal 10 sprinting Minibike - 7 normal 10 sprinting Motorcycle - 9 normal 14 sprinting 4x4 - 9 normal 14 sprinting Gyrocopter - 9 normal 15 sprinting I wonder what could be causing the differences in times that you are getting for the motorcycle and the 4x4. The 4x4 has a higher torque value, 3000 for the motorcycle vs 5000 for the 4x4, so maybe the 4x4 gets up to its top speed faster.

[@capp00]

I've disproven the XML and in-game text info multiple times. What's written down and what actually works are two different things. That's what got me into testing in this game years ago.

[@SvenicusGermainus]

​@@capp00 After looking at the XMLs again your results match up to what they show. So at least in this scenario the XMLs are pretty spot on. I also noticed while looking that driving actually increases food drain. That seems kind of silly to me but is probably a way of making food more needed. Maybe there is a way to test how much it actually drains it. Each vehicle and regular vs turbo driving.

[@iamgod4u907]

Nice ...work is really legit....keep growing.....all the best😊

[@the_old_horse]

I also thought the motorcycle was faster than 4x4, but I think it's because the motorcycle is smaller/thinner so there is probably a perspective illusion. But for the tiny speed difference I will keep the motorcycle as it has better maneuvrability imho. Thx for comparing.

[@Del_z_Slayer]

Distance divided by say what now??? Lol love me a bit of apocolyptic science 👍👍👍

[@haroldmcbroom7807]

I was wondering which vehicle is the fastest in relation to a given point on the map, and see who gets there first, the Jeep, or the Gyrocopter, does being in the air having no barriers present an advantage over a jeep which has to traverse hills, and bridges have an impact.

[@darrenmyers1480]

So the components that are used make a difference any more? I guess better quality battery is the only variable possible any more... But would that make a difference in speed?

[@capp00]

Nope, doesn't change it at all.

[@Klomster88]

Should have done the bicycle with and without boost. Since one can't expect to boost all the time, even if the old bug where you could boost infinitely was useful.

[@Dikwili]

Lol perfect music for the bike test

[@Zach8264]

You do know that if you open the vehicle menu, not the storage, it actually tells you the speed in m/s in that menu right?

[@capp00]

You do know the in-game text is wrong way more often than it is right, right? That's why I started doing these tests, because people were noticing what the game said and what actually happened, weren't equal.

[@Zach8264]

@@capp00 I mean, yea. It is wrong on occasion but it wasn't mentioned in the video and seemed like a valid point to bring up while doing the testing. It is relatively ballparked too and I'm curious how they programmed that speed algorithm into the game. Mods like BorderlandZ tweaked it so the motorcycles are extremely stupidly fast so it's definitely something that can be altered. As for the frame skipping when driving the motorcycle/4x4, Both mine and my wife's pc's suffer the same thing since Alpha 19 came out. We didn't experience anything like that in 17 or 18. They really screwed the pooch with this update in how the game runs overall.

[@Darkorigine]

The speed is not too annoying the real problem I find it is the collisions which are very badly managed with the vehicles .... But thank you so much for sharing.

[@MrMelichor]

I figured the mini bike was slower than the bicycle but it's still better because it doesn't eat your stamina bar.

[@kgonepostl]

Very interesting stuff. Thanks!!

[@chad134]

Wow! I did not realize they changed the vehicles' speed. Thanks for the info Capp00!

[@chrishubbard64]

Im not too surprised, the minibikes benefit is it doesnt drain stamina and it has more storage which is more than enough of a benefit to call it an upgrade. And while the 4x4 may be somewhat faster, you still have to balance the lack of off road capability and maneuverability with its faster speed in a straight line and vast storage space. All things being equal, I still prefer the motorbike any day of the week among the vehicles tested. If I was planning to shift to another city and needed storage space I would use the 4x4 and stick to the roads, but for general moving about town and random raids? Motorcycle. As for the gyro, I honestly have only gotten it a couple times and dont have enough experience with it to decide its true value. I figure for cross country trips its great as you can bypass all obstacles, but its a gas hog and loses a lot of storage. Plus its a bit more annoying to get going with.

[@Scotlandsworstgamer]

Good test Cap 👍

[@capp00]

Thanks 👍

[@jhowells2580]

Excellent as always and very detailed. I appreciate your efforts

[@capp00]

Many thanks!

[@dr_alejandro]

Yeah your values were pretty close. They have slightly different acceleration times, but bike and minibike both have top velocity of 10m/s, 4x4 and motorcycle have 14 m/s and gyrocopter has 15 m/s. It is a little surprising that the 4x4 and motorcycle are the same now as they weren't in the past, but yep there isn't a speed difference at top speed. Big differences are in gas efficiency and storage capacity.

[@Bonekraka]

I do enjoy these testing videos they fill in the blanks and even fills blanks you didn't know were there, very Inciteful thank you sir.

[@capp00]

Glad you like them!

[@Del_z_Slayer]

You could have set off with the gyro way back down the road and by time you came upon the starting line you would have been airborne and max speed? Would have been interesting to compare that one.

[@mrwallygator501]

Awesome test, will be using the 4x4 from now on, once fuel is not an issue. Thank you!

[@capp00]

Thank you!

[@nobody5081]

love your testings. Always nice and welcome. thx mate.

[@davidhart8451]

Does a ps4 controller work probb how to calibrate look around to second analog stick

[@donpfoutz625]

Awesome application of CappScience to a point in the game. Have you tried this out in A20 with modded and unmodded vehicles? It would be interesting to see if the unmodded A20 speeds were tweaked by TFPs

[@derliebej7675]

In this test you have the acceleration included. Maybe you could give it another go, crossing the start line with max speed to compare only that?

[@capp00]

Therein lies the rub, there is no way to know when you've stopped accelerating and reached max speed with each vehicle. If I knew the max speed, I wouldn't need to test it. So trying to figure out how far back to start each vehicle to remove acceleration is impossible, since there is no indicator when you've reached max speed.

[@rayyanlakho5813]

what gaming laptop/pc are you using? its pretty fast at running a game like that

[@kevnar]

You forgot to test the running speed without vehicles, for comparison.

[@sumonelse1989]

The Gyrocopter speed is (in my opinion) from it's ability to move in a straight line rather than raw speed. You don't have to follow roads and terrain makes no difference. If one were to test it I would expect little difference between it and the top rankers.

[@jack-spade5647]

...I actually drive the gyrocopter around cuz I joke around that it is the best drifting vehicle in the game on the server I play on. Also, most of the player base is afraid to step into a gyrocopter lol!!

[@HotaruZoku]

The difference in music per vehicle is classy.

[@HotCheetos000]

That's cool. So far I've only been able to get a bicycle anyways. So yeah..I kinda suck at this game

[@ah64jimbo81]

My friends and I have raced the gyro copter and the motorcycle; The motorcycle is faster in a straight-line comparison. I don't know how much faster the motorcycle is compared to the gyro copter, since we didn't quite do the scientific approach like Capp00. :-) If I were to hazard a guess, I'd say the gyro copter is halfway between the motorcycle and mini bike in terms of speed.

[@Damaddok82]

I'd be curious to see if any research had been done to see which vehicle is the most fuel efficient.

[@capp00]

I did an entire video on fuel efficiency for vehicles.

[@Damaddok82]

@@capp00 so you did. I found the video right after you said that. Not surprised that the mini bike won. But what about carrying capacity vs. Fuel use?

[@matthewwheeler469]

Wow, the truck has always been my favorite, but I thought it was a little slower than the motorcycle. I play on PVP servers, so I also like the truck because I don't think other players can shoot you while you're in it. Thanks for the informative test! Fun fact: You can fit three people in the truck. One of them rides on the back. This just makes me wish even more that they add the ability to mount a gun on the back!

[@jack-spade5647]

Having built more than a few modern day inner city street legal mini bike type machines... it does not shock me that its barely faster than a bicycle!! I think the catch 22 is no stanima clause or what have you.

[@stanllystaber]

Wow, did not expect that.

[@SchaelTeer]

I hate to correct you, but you can look into vehicles.xml fine to see what's up with the speed. And here are the lines: Gyro: Bicycle: Minibike: Motorcycle: 4x4: First Number is probably normal speed, second when you hit the shift-key. and as you see, Motorcycle and 4x4 are absolutely the same, however there are some lines regarding acceleration which I didn't looked into.

[@capp00]

This is why I started doing tests years ago, because just because the XML file says 1 thing, doesn't mean it's true in-game. I've disproven the XML file settings several times. And those numbers you are looking at, are variables used by the engine. I know, because I did a crap load of testing on this when I was trying to do the motorcycle jump over the buses.

[@kimiwabakka5231]

Gotta remember about the resource cost and storage size

[@lolalucxyz]

You didn't consider difference in rate of acceleration. I'm going to bet that the bicycle and the minibike, and the motorcycle and the truck actually share top speeds.

[@capp00]

I didn't because there is no way to measure when the acceleration has ended and you are at max speed. The 4x4 sounds like it shifts through 8 gears as it is accelerating, so there would be no way I could conclusively judge when each one was going the max speed. And when doing my motorcycle bus jump video, I did probably a hundred runs with all the vehicles trying to get it to work, and the acceleration on the vehicles was pretty much the same on each one.

[@richardcross9349]

acceleration over distance or did they all start at max speed using commands

[@capp00]

No, I negated acceleration in the test because there is no indicator as to your max speed, or how long it takes to reach said max speed.

[@crestavid]

Very surprising, I would have put money on the motorcycle to be the fastest. You could actually include the gyro if you started it off in the air. Something like the red bull air race, build a starting gantry off the ground, maybe that would work

[@makk0]

How does that compare to walking and running speed on foot?

[@capp00]

Much faster, runs out of gas slower.

[@sik3xploit]

Alternative title: Which vehicle is most likely to get a player in a vehicle accident.

[@MrDead50]

You know the radial menu to access the area of the vehicle to put the non existant mods in theres a section on the top leftt that tells you the speed of your vehicle in meters per second. Also not every vehicle will be the same. Each one will have slightly better stats than the 1st one you make or get from the creative menu much like the weapons.

[@capp00]

You know how often those are wrong? That's why I started doing tests like these years ago. That's just a text blurb in a text file. Doesn't mean anything in real-world testing. And each test was done with multiple vehicles to weed out any variations. They all function the same.

[@MrDead50]

@@capp00 hmm interesting im gonna have to test that myself. I play on an MP server with a few friends and on friend her 4x4 is faster than mine in a straight line. and hers says 42 m/s while mine says 29 m/s.