Captain Explains Why They Crashed

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Super Yacht Captain

Super Yacht Captain

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@patrikhafstrom8954
@patrikhafstrom8954 3 жыл бұрын
As a former Swedish naval officer on missilevessels I totally agree with the captain’s decision. In Sweden we have a saying: “Aim for something cheap” 😃 But as you said: “Safety first” 🇸🇪
@BowenOrg
@BowenOrg 3 жыл бұрын
Love those old "slogans" Mr. Hfstrom... wisdom at it's best!!! : )
@largol33t1
@largol33t1 3 жыл бұрын
"Aim for something cheap"! Damn, that's FUNNY...
@christiano8088
@christiano8088 3 жыл бұрын
Anything from IKEA then!
@eugeniustheodidactus8890
@eugeniustheodidactus8890 3 жыл бұрын
@@christiano8088 or FORD
@billvs6505
@billvs6505 3 жыл бұрын
"Don't hit the shiny stuff."
@jph8291
@jph8291 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a very seasoned Captain stayed calm, assessed his options, and made the right decision to limit loss in a sure loss situation. Well done!
@johnair1
@johnair1 2 жыл бұрын
With no control he could run over a small boat, hit another boat with people on board and what not. Since he lost major control there was only one option. Stop the vessel and don't wait which he knew as an experienced captain can lead to bigger issues. Using the dock as a "brake" was the best decision i guess.
@macbook802
@macbook802 2 жыл бұрын
100 percent his fault
@TerryKeever
@TerryKeever 3 ай бұрын
All in 13 seconds.
@TerryKeever
@TerryKeever 3 ай бұрын
​@@macbook802Computer malfunctions are the capitan's fault? You've lost your mind if you had one.
@boblynn5936
@boblynn5936 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds to me like the owner of Go has one of the best captains in the industry. Kudos to him and Captain Johnson.
@annieraven2972
@annieraven2972 3 жыл бұрын
No doubt the Captain is very experienced he did his Best to land the vessel inthe right place.Ihad thesame problem with a large container vessel going in port of Ancona Italy malfunction of the engines automation not cranking astern at all.We avoided a disaster. Yes too much electronics not good. The investigation will clear the Captain.Wish him the best!!!!!!....El Capitan.....
@cchoice4919
@cchoice4919 10 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂sounds like you and the owner do to much coke!!
@Yachtsforsaleblog
@Yachtsforsaleblog 3 жыл бұрын
Great video Tristan. I read the article yesterday but you really brought it to life! I couldn’t agree more about the need for shipyards to embrace feedback and suggestions from Captains!
@Derffee
@Derffee 3 жыл бұрын
Not seen you post any videos for awhile The last one I only saw half of it and could not see any more because it got sent to private
@captainb6104
@captainb6104 3 жыл бұрын
Captains don't buy Super Yachts, the yards gives the owner what they want, and pay for.
@kylehanna522
@kylehanna522 3 жыл бұрын
@@Derffee treuuuu
@MrChrisCube
@MrChrisCube 3 жыл бұрын
As a designer I can tell you that I myself always push to put "manual override" on all yachts, but I also push for better and more easy and more natural controls for the manuvering of the vessel, but the industry is too slow to adopt new tecnologies and also captains I speak to, they dont seem to feel confident with the new tecnologies... they feel like they are losing control of the vessel giving it to a computer... But from my experience, computers make sailing safer.
@captainb6104
@captainb6104 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrChrisCube as a designer of yachts how do you relate to SOLAS regulations during the design process?
@helibob2367
@helibob2367 3 жыл бұрын
I have sailed with Captain Johnson on a similar sized vessel, and his maneuvering skills are simply amazing. He has experience not only with motor yachts, but also with sail yachts, and the experience combination shows. He is always thinking way ahead of the vessel.
@studinthemaking
@studinthemaking 3 жыл бұрын
Cool.
@webustnuts
@webustnuts 3 жыл бұрын
We need more people like you coming forward who knows this Captain.
@captainb6104
@captainb6104 3 жыл бұрын
He didn't think ahead of the vessel here, because then he would have stayed at the pier, or maybe get a tug.
@KeepItReal2024
@KeepItReal2024 3 жыл бұрын
@@captainb6104 smh
@captainb6104
@captainb6104 3 жыл бұрын
@@KeepItReal2024 do you have a problem to understand that Captain Johnsen lost and the vessel won? He ended up in a situation where the people at the dock, the ship, and the environment was all put in danger, and only by luck of circumstances things didn't end worse. There was a technical issue onboard that he was not prepared to handle.
@watchmestress4182
@watchmestress4182 3 жыл бұрын
I'll save everyone 20 minutes. Computer Glitch caused the accident. Design flaw not the Captains fault.
@cyrilmcginnis9901
@cyrilmcginnis9901 3 жыл бұрын
The man who is paid the big bucks to make a decision earned his money. End
@elmiguel6725
@elmiguel6725 3 жыл бұрын
gobba-gool
@7755ian1
@7755ian1 3 жыл бұрын
He should have stopped engines when the vessel hit the pontoon the first time, assessed any damage and any electronic or mechanical malfunction before reversing, then and only then should the vessel be reversed. The investigation must/should show this. Common sense. Even the most experienced of us make silly mistakes.
@Krait99
@Krait99 3 жыл бұрын
@@7755ian1 I think that's a easy call for us to make expos-facto but the man on the ground had to make the decision in real time and I think he did a good job achieving the best outcome available.
@brandonsabin1471
@brandonsabin1471 3 жыл бұрын
@yer man you do realize if he killed his engines there is a good chance he would have also lost all hydraulics including anchor and steering controls plus the chance of reduceing many emergency functions, nevermind this wreck lasted how long??? Things move fast, hindsight is always 2020.
@7755ian1
@7755ian1 3 жыл бұрын
Hydraulics power provided by auxillary pump without main engines from generators. Manufacturer must have thought of that one. If not then it would have remained stationary in what was left of pontoon and not tried a second run.....
@BradKnowsAll
@BradKnowsAll 3 жыл бұрын
There are rarely “good” decisions when things go wrong - only “RIGHT” decisions under the circumstances. Seems like he made the only right decision available to him.
@bradpointer6134
@bradpointer6134 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting take on events that occur when everything goes to shit.
@alanblasczyk1779
@alanblasczyk1779 3 жыл бұрын
In my personal opinion as a retired mechanical engineer, people are far too quick to condemn a well seasoned Captain before all the facts are presented. Always, wait and hear ALL the facts and if nothing else, the Captains length of service and extensive record affords him an extended period of latitude. I for one am on his side.
@robertfrost1683
@robertfrost1683 3 жыл бұрын
How about the captain of the Titanic ? Lets not be too hasty in absolving the captain either.
@easternwoods4378
@easternwoods4378 3 жыл бұрын
Wait until the computers on a self driving car fail
@blewyd
@blewyd 3 жыл бұрын
@@robertfrost1683 there's nothing that makes those two similar.
@richardberger326
@richardberger326 3 жыл бұрын
I find it extremely distressing why people won’t take responsibility for there actions
@frankygers
@frankygers 3 жыл бұрын
Well,said.
@ablaze1989
@ablaze1989 3 жыл бұрын
This is why mob rule is almost never a good idea, a person is smart but people are dumb and quick to anger.
@steveperkins7009
@steveperkins7009 3 жыл бұрын
I’m horrified to learn about no manual override. So this should be the breaking point of excessive bridge computerization.
@flytheskies7232
@flytheskies7232 3 жыл бұрын
well, this is going to scare you.. aircraft manufacturers and startups are currently testing pilotless airplanes that are controlled solely by a computer.
@bahamasking2063
@bahamasking2063 3 жыл бұрын
@@flytheskies7232 That’s a scary thing for sure.
@ericperkins3078
@ericperkins3078 3 жыл бұрын
@@flytheskies7232 Most modern passenger aircraft are already largely controlled by computer. Human pilots are present in the cockpit primarily to take off and land the aircraft (even though the computers are capable of doing so) as a nod to the human fear of "automated" aircraft.
@stevetrouble7080
@stevetrouble7080 3 жыл бұрын
@@ericperkins3078 In Dubai and other busy cities they only take off, judge over, under or around weather all the pilots have to do in landing is put the brakes on and taxi
@tomriley5790
@tomriley5790 3 жыл бұрын
@@flytheskies7232 Most military aircraft would be incapable of flying without a computer - fbw and computer control has been shown to be incredibly safe, does this mean that all computer control systems are foolproof - No. Fixating on having a mechanical override or supposed backup can create more problems than it solves. The point is to have a well designed system that will work.
@davewright3088
@davewright3088 3 жыл бұрын
I have been building and operating computer controls in marine environments most of my career. I concur, you should never put a computer as the only connection between a human and a critical control element if you can avoid it..! Also, the short video clip shows what appears to be port engine hard astern and starboard ahead at collision...
@bertschalk1798
@bertschalk1798 3 жыл бұрын
Fully agree Dave.....I work in the IT industry in break/fix services.....the reason for my presence there, still after many years, is the simple fact that software (just like hardware) can really fail unexpectedly ! It is never intended of course but a programming error f.i. that will only surface under specific circumstances is something that does exist in the real world unfortunately ! Hence...the manual override, if at all possible, depending on...........should really be in place !
@carl4240
@carl4240 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. As a good friend of the Captain I appreciate your input. I have known this Captain over 40 years.
@thayward65
@thayward65 3 жыл бұрын
If I was the owner of this yacht he would still be employed also I would also make sure he would be able to override all computer systems as needed or all at once. Never trust any computers 100% yes use them when they do work it is 99% correct depends what the person enters in them and 100% accurate on the computer response output. it's man-made and man-made things fail.
@larry6682
@larry6682 3 жыл бұрын
Operators of boats and ships, large and small, recognize that there is always the possibility of critical mechanical failure at the most inopportune time. The ability to respond calmly and quickly can be the difference between an okay outcome and a terrible outcome. In my opinion, Captain Johnson did very well.
@robertgoodsense1048
@robertgoodsense1048 Жыл бұрын
Except it appears the mechanical systems worked fine. They rammed the dock, then backed up. Control systems are where the "malfunction" or hack is.
@ryano.5149
@ryano.5149 3 жыл бұрын
Probably should have named the yacht "Stop," eh? Sorry, I couldn't resist. I'll show myself out.
@johnkean6852
@johnkean6852 3 жыл бұрын
GO now 😂
@MartinSparkes-BadDragon
@MartinSparkes-BadDragon 3 жыл бұрын
The name was to blame.... My name is Go. I want to GO!!!!!
@jacksbackable
@jacksbackable 3 жыл бұрын
Very Good! 👏😆😂🤣💀
@philpek6341
@philpek6341 3 жыл бұрын
😂👍👏
@imichael2411
@imichael2411 3 жыл бұрын
I am not crew, never been aboard a vessel of the Go's size. But as a man whom has lived over 70 years and who has been in many situations, I am impressed by the Captain's skill, knowledge and reaction speed. He had seconds, and made the correct choices.
@nicholaspappas9712
@nicholaspappas9712 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds very logical, glad it wasn’t on my shoulders.
@easternwoods4378
@easternwoods4378 3 жыл бұрын
Microsoft . . . . . . .
@TheCruizer21
@TheCruizer21 3 жыл бұрын
@@easternwoods4378 was that the first time computer malfunction or it's happened before? Should have an emergency manual override as they do on aircraft!
@johnkean6852
@johnkean6852 3 жыл бұрын
I teared up when you gave the owner's opinion and backing of captain' and his split-second decisions. He is an angel.
@carpediem6431
@carpediem6431 3 жыл бұрын
Microscope needs to turn onto the shipyard. Imagine running a 100 million dollar vessel when your unsure now if it will slow, turn etc. on command.
@jimmyzhao2673
@jimmyzhao2673 2 жыл бұрын
In 2005, BC Ferries in Vancouver had a $0.20 cotter pin break causing the engine to rev up unexpectedly, and the ferry crashed into the dock. Sometimes it is the smallest least expensive part or a software glitch that can cause so much damage.
@neilwharton720
@neilwharton720 3 жыл бұрын
I have to say he acted as he felt was the best call, we were not there so he avoided any accidents or casualties well done Captain Simon 👍👍👍
@silverwoodvideo
@silverwoodvideo 3 жыл бұрын
I own and operate a 150' yacht. I have had the same situation where my controls malfunctioned when arriving at a dock. I have an engineer standing behind the engines during all close docking situations with radio headphones on where I can instruct him to pull a manual pin and disengage the normal system and operate the controls manually with levers directly connected to the engines to overcome the problem and complete the maneuver. When did they stop putting this manual override on yachts?
@andrewwittkamper2837
@andrewwittkamper2837 2 жыл бұрын
Well I don't know for sure I work on ships but I will say most engines themselves are not mechanically controlled anymore so even your local operating station relies on engine electronics for engine controls. But in a restricted manuvering situation, having a local operator on station and having comms established is critical, and perhaps they did. But one would think they could have ordered a backing Bell to the engine room and stopped forward movement of the vessel.
@Toffie10
@Toffie10 3 жыл бұрын
Tristan, I agree 100% with you and the captain of "Go." I think he made te absulute correct decision to "put" the yacht into the wooden dock to minimilaise damage. This is a bad situation well handeled. No one could have done better!
@bradpointer6134
@bradpointer6134 3 жыл бұрын
Minimumilize... Minimumilize.... Supposably...
@basstrammel1322
@basstrammel1322 3 жыл бұрын
Well, the programmers (or technician installing hardware?) could've done better.
@johnkean6852
@johnkean6852 3 жыл бұрын
His Boss deserves that boat: _what an honorable, noble gentleman_
@Nimbus495
@Nimbus495 3 жыл бұрын
200’ yacht so computerized you can’t take manual control if the damn thing fails? That’s just STOOPID!
@goleafsgo8496
@goleafsgo8496 3 жыл бұрын
Flying in today's planes make me nervous for this exact same reason. We are removing it seems the potential for the crew to just fly or control these mammoth machines. Scary ....
@yodaslovetoy
@yodaslovetoy 3 жыл бұрын
@@goleafsgo8496 thats why those boeings where falling from the sky, failed software
@potatolew4495
@potatolew4495 3 жыл бұрын
Yes it is. Everything is fly by wire basically no cables, hydraulic steering from the helm it is all electrical
@ackattacker
@ackattacker 3 жыл бұрын
I am an experienced commercial pilot on fly by wire jet aircraft, I can tell you that you absolutely can “take manual control” of even the most advanced jets. Control is still electrical but it is possible to take the computer software out of the loop and go analog, stick to control surface. With multiple redundancies the electrical control is far more reliable than old cable and hydraulic systems which depend upon 100’s of feet of cable and dozens of pulleys and bellcranks all of which can fail and jam. The same benefits are possible with boat by wire systems, but only if they are properly designed. I’m guessing private yacht control certification is far less stringent than EASA/FAA. In many ways the 737 Max disaster was caused by the FAA getting lax and relying too heavily on manufacturers self-certifying. My understanding of the marine industry is that it is almost all self certification.
@lousey1969
@lousey1969 3 жыл бұрын
It's amazing that when a plane gets into trouble everyone says what a hero the captain is yet when something similar happens in a luxury yacht people start criticising the captain instead of thinking that perhaps something technical or mechanical has gone wrong and the captain has done an exceptional job in minimising the damage. Great review Tristan and very well explained.
@TheeAthis
@TheeAthis 3 жыл бұрын
Hero or not, aircraft captains are retired by force after an incident like the Hudson miracle. I think the real question is, why are we not giving these experts in their field the benefit of the doubt? It comes down to manufacturer's or companies not wanting to take responsibility for their liability. It's easier for them to blame it on the little guy.
@PresidentialWinner
@PresidentialWinner 3 жыл бұрын
The reason is that this is a luxury yacht. No one likes super rich people's toys destroying public property.
@jonesyokc
@jonesyokc 3 жыл бұрын
As a software developer, I always feel these issues come up because testing doesn't seem to be a very high priority. It is all about getting features out to the stakeholders. If you are taking the time doing extensive testing, you aren't producing shiny new things for stakeholders to ooh and ah over. The question is, how do you take this decision away from project managers? Could also be pressure from product owners to get a product released in a hurry.
@jackiecs8190
@jackiecs8190 3 жыл бұрын
I think this kind of software should be regulated the same kind of way avionics are, with detailed certification and proof
@whaleudder8453
@whaleudder8453 2 жыл бұрын
As a PO it can be extremely challenging to meet a clients requirements when they are threatening to cancel contracts etc. if features are not released asap. Including their feature creep. Working as a go between with the client and project managers while still working towards product vision can be like juggling a few dozen balls at the same time. I strongly believe that the first priority of a PO should be to ensure that work is slowed as much as possible to allow as much testing as possible and to release stress from developers. I work on a 200% over estimate development headroom for all work performed on my product to sure we have a minimum of 70% meaningful code coverage with unit tests and that all code is reviewed by both a junior developer (to learn new techniques, technologies etc.) and a senior developer before a pull request can be merged. Then it goes through three rounds of testing with different approaches before being released for client UAT. This is a solid approach for us and very few issues fall through the cracks. Due to the nature of the product and because lives and the environment depend upon our software working it’s critical for us to go slow. Fast development is bad for everybody, bad for the developer, bad for the product, bad for the clients. Slow development is good for the developers, good for the product but can be frustrating for the client at times however that’s where the PMs and PO have to step up and do their job with client management and assure them that they will get a better product in the end.
@ancientbear3280
@ancientbear3280 2 жыл бұрын
The reality is all software has bugs even those that are tested as seldom are the specifications for development so fine tuned that a testers knows all the features. A developer will put in if then statements and all sorts of logic code that a testers has no idea are there. Most cars have recals and Tesla cars which have high engineering are software patched when users find bugs.
@doggies.will.be.doggies
@doggies.will.be.doggies 3 жыл бұрын
Captain Johnson plain and simple showed his experience in minimizing what could have been an utter disaster. 40 years on the job and for some freak accident like this to even remotely blemish his reputation....is simply preposterous. The owner can (and surely is) proud of having such a master running his vessel.
@keithreiffenstein9909
@keithreiffenstein9909 3 жыл бұрын
Manual override should be on ALL computer driven vessels..only by the grace of God no one died or got hurt..
@trafalgar1938
@trafalgar1938 3 жыл бұрын
You are absolutely right Keith. I do believe in God but I must attribute the safety of all and everything concerned to the experience of the captain.
@rastapete100
@rastapete100 3 жыл бұрын
@MrAbletospeak Then who screwed up the computer?
@borysnijinski331
@borysnijinski331 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure “God” had nothing to do with it.
@1STGeneral
@1STGeneral 3 жыл бұрын
@MrAbletospeak Correct only one true God Almighty hopefully you have thanked him for being able to speak
@thayward65
@thayward65 3 жыл бұрын
@@rastapete100 software programer and computer glitch. Does your computer operate 100% all the time. No they at times have to be rebooted or reprogramed. I wouldn't trust them. I would like to be able to handle it manually just like having paper charts and learned how to Celestial Navigate if you have a GPS don't count on electronics.
@dabooser1048
@dabooser1048 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Computer technology is relatively new in the grand scheme of things. Consider how often our own personal computers, smartphones, etc. experience software glitches, no system is immune. I think the captain did an outstanding job minimizing the overal impact of the incident.
@johnmcque4813
@johnmcque4813 3 жыл бұрын
I am a boat owner, not a yacht, just a motor boat the size of a tender for skiing and recreational and fishing. I cant even imagine having a computer operating it. The engine is an inboard V-8, and quite powerful, and it has a brain, which I guess can be classed a computer ruining the engine functions. As far as having a computer operating the boat, and not being able to size up the environment such as high wind or heavy waves. I couldn't trust a computer, or trust a self automated vehicle of any sort. This Go, captain did his best to compete against automation, and as I watched this video I pictured the 737 MAX planes that also fought against the pilot''s. I agree with your stand on this issue. Automation should serve at command of the pilot and not argue with them.
@boataxe4605
@boataxe4605 3 жыл бұрын
“ I’m sorry Dave, I can’t let you do that” Arthur C. Clarke called it in 1968.
@johnmcque4813
@johnmcque4813 3 жыл бұрын
@@boataxe4605 Right on sir.
@boataxe4605
@boataxe4605 3 жыл бұрын
@@ronniedelahoussayechauvin6717 A book and movie titled ‘2001 a space odyssey’ in which a computer takes over the control of a spaceship.
@jeffdutton2374
@jeffdutton2374 3 жыл бұрын
Well done Captain Johnson
@joanned8172
@joanned8172 3 жыл бұрын
When I first saw the video I thought there was some sort of malfunction, it was only thing that made sense. I just didn't know what that malfunction was. The captains hired for these billionaire superyachts tend to be among the best of the best.
@lakerfan0852
@lakerfan0852 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like he made a sound decision. That's why he's the Captain. I'd be more concerned with the failed technology aboard the Yacht.
@thayward65
@thayward65 3 жыл бұрын
exactly
@robertpike3454
@robertpike3454 3 жыл бұрын
i have never commented on anything on any youtube site ect. This guy did best period!!!! He had no loss of life no loss of sea life all other can be fixed. How can I hire this guy?? That is not a lie!!
@stephendennis5969
@stephendennis5969 3 жыл бұрын
& who’s to say the anchor would have caught? And if it did, those engines may have just drug it across the bottom.
@twothreefour234
@twothreefour234 3 жыл бұрын
Malfunctions have a way of happening under the worst set of circumstances. The yacht is simply too large to overcome any anomaly while passing under the bridge. Perhaps the ship's that large should not pass.
@peterferryskipper
@peterferryskipper 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly.
@seatravel8536
@seatravel8536 3 жыл бұрын
Appears great decision making. I have questions the investigation needs to answer, no essential to answer. 1. The software, was there a recent update. 2. Are the computers hardwired or have a wireless connectivity. 3. Are the ships control computers on same network as the crew/passenger networks. 4. Are ship control computers isolated from outside networks. 5. Do the control computers run in series or parallel. 6. Does the software have automatic stop/shut down if there is a conflict between computers.
@oceanman1340
@oceanman1340 9 ай бұрын
The Captain did absolutely the right thing, as a Chief Engineer who has shipped for 22 years. I would sail with Captain Johnson anywhere, anytime ! He made the right decision.
@franksmith3602
@franksmith3602 3 жыл бұрын
Great up date. The captain did what he was trained to do. A large bonus check and 2 weeks off with the owners credit card for the whole crew.
@jugaloking69dope58
@jugaloking69dope58 3 жыл бұрын
lol not even close. the captain will be having interview after interrogations till the insurance company pays out and then it will be on his record. no 40 year rebate for you!!!
@lucasjohnson6
@lucasjohnson6 3 жыл бұрын
First Yogi, now this?? Man Turquoise yachts are not having a fun time…
@marcmilne9228
@marcmilne9228 3 жыл бұрын
Was waiting for your commentary, not disappointed, thank you.
@thedolphin5428
@thedolphin5428 7 ай бұрын
Mate, listen back to your narration some time. It's infantile. You DON'T.NEED. to DRAMATICALLY.EMPHASISE.EVERY.WORD.YOU.SAY for melodramatic effect, and chop your hands at the air. Just speak normally without all the over-emotionalising. Couldn't listen beyond 5 mins.
@CAUSELESSREBEL
@CAUSELESSREBEL 3 жыл бұрын
He made a gutsy call, with little time to decide. IMO, and limited sea experience, I think he made the right one. I agree about the silliness of fully automated ship systems. Captain Johnson did good.
@robertgoodnow5069
@robertgoodnow5069 3 жыл бұрын
File under: when there is no perfect decision and you only have 13 seconds to make the best worst decision. Good job captain
@mattdabney4109
@mattdabney4109 3 жыл бұрын
I think the captain acted perfectly in the situation and I feel did the absolute best decision and created the least amount of issue by that decision. Congrats for him truly!! Best wishes to all boaters
@hugosbalder6139
@hugosbalder6139 2 жыл бұрын
Who buys a software driven ship in Turkey???? Who buys a software driven ship without manual options anyway???
@Josh_K01
@Josh_K01 3 жыл бұрын
When I saw the initial video of the incident, I figured it was likely a control system malfunction. What the captain said makes total sense and he absolutely made the right decision under the circumstances. As for software/computers, the biggest names in software that spend a lot of money on development still have bugs in them, I certainly agree with your assessment that software can malfunction. Is there a better way of providing auxiliary control? Absolutely. Am I qualified to say what that is? Most certainly not. My suggestion would be start putting in the old cable controls in the engine control room so in a situation like this, someone can take manual control of the engines. Just my two cents of a arm chair captain. Thank you again for the informative video.
@peterdurand3098
@peterdurand3098 3 жыл бұрын
Hello, Speaking as a retired airline captain (both Boeing and Airbus) I am surprised that the marine equivalent of our flight control computers do not have multiple redundancies and backups built in. Great channel. Do keep up the good work. Cheers, Peter
@kevingreig288
@kevingreig288 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Something amiss there.
@justanotheraviator2357
@justanotheraviator2357 2 жыл бұрын
It's often custom and new for each vessel
@christopherjohnson3520
@christopherjohnson3520 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe it’s Time for a New Bridge.
@MimicoBungalow
@MimicoBungalow 3 жыл бұрын
It's time for a new bridge. The John Sainsborough Lejuez Bridge is far too narrow, for both 'mega-yachts' and the 'coasters' that do commercial business to St. Maarten - widening the passageway is long overdue with a bit of dredging, the passage is certainly wide enough for a 'wider bridge' opening...Been there...always wondered why it is so narrow - and the bridge is NOT very old, either!
@outlaw565
@outlaw565 7 ай бұрын
I totally agree with you on why don’t the designers work with the people who actually run the ship? All i can think of is they view themselves as all knowing and place themselves on a pedestal. And everyone else is beneath them. I use to build boats and the stupidity behind some of the designs were unbelievable. Basic maintenance items were totally inaccessible. Never did see the designers on the shop floor. Or looking over boats while they were being built.
@lynnedecision9867
@lynnedecision9867 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for walking us through his report. It frustrates me so much when the arm chair critics jump in with their comments. Having your calm, logical and educated presentation, helps encourage people to learn and think things through.
@LowtechArmy
@LowtechArmy 3 жыл бұрын
The fact is as most of you know, in a moment like that, when the proverbial “Shit” hits the fan, the absolute worst decision one can make is to not make a decision at all. I know that sounds cliche and obvious, but the fact of the matter is that until you have gone through an experience like this you have no idea if you are someone that can and will be able to operate in the moment, stay calm and function under pressure or if you’ll simply become locked up, mouth agape, saying to yourself over and over “This can’t be happening. This can’t be happening. This can’t be happening.” At the end of the day, when there are only a few seconds or meters till disaster, you can’t second guess yourself. You don’t have time to crowd source for a solution or hold a vote with the crew. Like mentioned in the video, Sully might have been able to make it to Teeterboro(we know now he absolutely couldn’t) but he didn’t know at the time. He didn’t think so, so he decided he would land on the Hudson and never looked back. So whether to use the anchor, emergency shut off, bow thruster or whatever other possibilities he might have had at his disposal at that moment, he made the call and as he saw it. And it was very probably the right and only viable option he had. I commend him and think that an incident like this can end up a positive thing in the end either through discovery of potentially fatal software errors or creating and implementing new and improved OP guidelines or just starting the conversation between yacht builders and the mariners that devote their lives and career to their vessels.
@sean4839
@sean4839 3 жыл бұрын
Such an impressive story. I'm a private pilot. I run scenarios all the time and think of procedures in emergencies. But everyone's got a plan until they get punched in the face. This Captain kept his head clear and won the fight.
@Chzydawg
@Chzydawg 3 жыл бұрын
Wait, what? a Turquoise built yacht crashed? No way, what a surprise, obviously can't be the faultless manufacturers, must've been the captain....
@mikefrancis9707
@mikefrancis9707 3 жыл бұрын
Captain Johnson deserves a commendation. He probably saved a few lives , and marine environment. Until someone is master of a large vessel on the water , they don't realize how they travel . This seems to be nothing short of remarkable seamanship.
@blewyd
@blewyd 3 жыл бұрын
I think calling him a life saver is a little bit much. It would have been pretty hard to manage to kill someone in a situation like this, but I agree with the rest of what you said.
@kerosene4751
@kerosene4751 2 жыл бұрын
What nonsense! He crashed a big boat into the dock. Reversed, then crashed it again. I guess you missed that part LOL.
@timyarrow8844
@timyarrow8844 3 жыл бұрын
A captain hit a dock? Sacra bleu. See, now, my perspective here is this: 160,000 liters of fuel on board, 42,200 gallons, 28,000 miles travelled in 3 years. What an astronomical carbon foot-print from just this one vessel. What an astronomical impact upon global climate change from just one person's ownership of just this one boat. Worth asking: what level of ego must one have to justify any of this? Some day in the future we'll look back on this level of fossil fuel extravagance and ask how this was allowed to happen.
@jrhalabamacustoms5673
@jrhalabamacustoms5673 3 жыл бұрын
Since my ship handling experience is limited to paddling a kayak, I'll leave the split second decisions to those with far superior experience. Its interesting to hear the thought processes that went into the chosen course of action, kudos to the Captain in minimizing risk and damage.
@DriveSafeDon
@DriveSafeDon 3 жыл бұрын
The same problem that captains are experiencing with yachts captains are experiencing with aircraft they’re stuffed with so much shit electronically that it’s eminent sooner or later it will fail 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
@Michael-gr6fv
@Michael-gr6fv 3 жыл бұрын
The unfortunate side effect of allowing everyone to have a public voice is that the ignorant are able to post their ill informed opinions.
@voornaam3191
@voornaam3191 3 жыл бұрын
You'd better start informing all the ignorant. You just gave your opinion, now what do you think will happen next? The ill informed are gonna prove, how true such a simple statement is. And nothing will change.
@nospam-hn7xm
@nospam-hn7xm 3 жыл бұрын
@@voornaam3191 Such is the case when the freedom of speech rules. Let's enjoy it while we can!
@melvinjohnson7033
@melvinjohnson7033 3 жыл бұрын
...such as your opinion.
@keithbouckley9675
@keithbouckley9675 2 жыл бұрын
What I would have done. First action------------- Panic Second ------------ control panic Third ------------ Hand over to first or second Fourth ------------ Go to head.
@tna2me197
@tna2me197 3 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. As an airline captain your analogy was spot on. Sometimes we have to make decisions that are the choice between bad and worse. Technology can throw us curve balls and this captain was thinking critically before ever getting into the situation. I also happen to have my own boat (just a 34’ sailing vessel) and I’ve been around boats and the marine environment my entire 60 year life so I’m somewhat familiar with how things can pile up and go wrong on the water. Excellent job on his part in my opinion.
@shardie78239
@shardie78239 2 жыл бұрын
In that situation the captain did everything he could possibly do. I know this is a simple example, but I owned Mercedes-Benz cars since the early 80s. They were simple non-electronic dependable cars. Now there are full of computers and I can’t even get a light turned off without spending 800 bucks at the dealer. This so-called technology has caused the lives of many people in Tesla’s. The marine industry is lucky that it hasn’t been more serious for them.
@jamesgraham6122
@jamesgraham6122 3 жыл бұрын
Had a similar experience back in the 80s so this is not new. The boat was less than half the size of 'Go' .. new vessel, I'd only recently brought it down from the builders in Italy and was on the fuel quay at Piraeus. Surrounded by mega-expensive yachts. Let go the lines and moved the levers into gear when the stb engine roared into max power. The bow lifted and the yacht tilted to port rapidly describing an arc across the harbour. Unlike this unlucky captain I had no decision to make, I hit both engine emergency stops and the yacht settled. The cause was a fault in a circuit board. Computers have their place but back-ups are essential.
@brantregare
@brantregare 3 жыл бұрын
Though I agree that a manual override/manual backup should be mandatory, I fail to see how this is not also the responsibility of the Master/Captain. You could always refuse to sail/pilot a boat/ship without such backup. If all refused to pilot/sail such a vessel they would not be built without such. Accepting such a job without a manual override, is taking a risk. Do not bemoan the lack of a feature on a job that you accepted. You knew the risk and accepted it. That being said, the Captain did react. So experience matters. He was not frozen. When confronted with a situation he made decisions. That is way better than not reacting and, letting a situation unfold. The choices that the Captain made had predictable results. He chose those results over do nothing, as a lesser of two evils. In that he was undoubtedly right.
@jeremyfowler8530
@jeremyfowler8530 3 жыл бұрын
First! Great to hear a frank discussion of this!
@jakke1975
@jakke1975 3 жыл бұрын
You can say whatever you want about electronics taking over from people. Yes, they do fail sometimes but it is also a statistic that they do that a lot less often than human beings. Computers these days are not running on Windows 95 anymore. Crashes occur a lot less frequently and on big and possibly dangerous vessels (ships, airplanes, rockets, ...), there are always backups so that multiple failures need to occur at once to cause an accident. Humans make mistakes multiple times a day, they suffer from things like pride, being tired, hungry, moody and so on. Computers these days are much more reliable and can handle a lot more data to take into account to make the right decisions. In this case, everything turned out the best way possible (no injuries, minimal damage) and people will investigate and learn to make improvements for the future... and I highly doubt a manual override is really the answer here. This is how humans have made progress and will continue to do so.
@t.d.bowman9585
@t.d.bowman9585 3 жыл бұрын
Ship builder should be held accountable. It should be illegal to build anything without manual override and redundant systems
@JamesT65
@JamesT65 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I was thinking. I would never recommend any system with no manual over ride.
@incubatork
@incubatork 2 жыл бұрын
I maybe don't understand the certification of super yachts but for all merchant and fishing vessels, large or small must have a manual control of some kind, both Steering and engine control(emergency shutdown) in one or more positions in case of total electrical failure. Even the giant super container ships have some form of manual steering.
@januzi2
@januzi2 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine what would happen if Schettino was a captain of that yacht.
@Texas240
@Texas240 3 жыл бұрын
He'd have jumped off, swinging down with that bow fender!
@fookutube501
@fookutube501 2 жыл бұрын
Crew:Captain we should hit it again,because the first one did nothing Captain: ok,incoming..
@rex8255
@rex8255 3 жыл бұрын
I spent years testing software. As soon as you mentioned that the yacht was controlled entirely by software, I just thought "He's screwed".
@jeffconley819
@jeffconley819 3 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly.
@budrome4247
@budrome4247 3 жыл бұрын
Just because you CAN automate something does not mean you SHOULD.
@voornaam3191
@voornaam3191 3 жыл бұрын
@@budrome4247 Yes. Wooden ships and men of steel. Cotton sails and carbon fibre spars. Steam engines, no nuclear power plant, and Rudolf Diesel was not born, yet. Square sails, or being towed by a smoking steamer. Everything was better in the past. Club the computer kids from the bridge. Realtime software is still a serious problem.
@basstrammel1322
@basstrammel1322 3 жыл бұрын
@@budrome4247 At least include a manual override. It's all ment to take the work load off the crew so they can put their energy into something more important, but it's very strange they don't have a killswitch.
@gigglingdingo
@gigglingdingo 2 жыл бұрын
Looking at the water in the clip… and the thrust manoeuvres visible In the clip and the captains claiming loss of control. Without seeing shipboard data etc, my hunch is It may be that in trying to maintain position while waiting, a thrust manoeuvre has causes a bank effect situation in the very restricted waters for a 77m boat. It does not look like there was much under keel clearance from the muddy Reverse thrust wash ( which was probably was only about half astern at time before he decided to beach}. So it seems more likely thrust causing accelerated water in a restricted area has caused a bank effect like scenario causing lose of control of vessel ( note: you can see when vessel goes from astern to going ahead (before impact) may have gone ahead a bit strong to gain headway to steer into jetty (could have been better controlling headway with quick short burst of ahead on engines instead of non stop ahead ). The engine control seem to be fine in going astern to ahead ( to beach) and then astern to get off the jetty. So scenario seems most likely an under keel clearance limitation and a bank effect scenario caused by manoeuvres to stay in position to wait.
@alaskanwolf
@alaskanwolf 3 жыл бұрын
10:24 for the beginning of the actual explanation of what happened.
@beazleteats4031
@beazleteats4031 3 жыл бұрын
OMG...Tristan likes the sound of his own voice. This video could have been 8 minutes long. Short, sharp & succinct.
@alaskanwolf
@alaskanwolf 3 жыл бұрын
@@beazleteats4031 Seriously, they only need to be 10 minutes long to be able to customize their ad monetization
@chrislane5670
@chrislane5670 3 жыл бұрын
These yachts run on software only? Meaning you can't take over as a Throttle Jockey? I would assume you have a fall back?
@ashishpatel350
@ashishpatel350 3 жыл бұрын
No one died or was critically hurt so I think he did a great job.
@MightyCalves
@MightyCalves 2 жыл бұрын
That's why you should buy Kongsberg Thruster Control and DP.
@mrdiavel4807
@mrdiavel4807 3 жыл бұрын
That’s the Captain you want to hire , not the one that never had an incident happen to him .
@MrLanto2
@MrLanto2 2 жыл бұрын
A computer doesn't care how much money you make or how much the yacht cost they can and do crash. Money is completely irrelevant
@danielheathcote5625
@danielheathcote5625 3 жыл бұрын
The problem with computers is however much intelligance these yachts (like cars, planes, trains) have, it’s artificial intelligance - a computer can’t be programmed to assess every situation abs make a correct decision, or fail. For experienced captains etc like him, and you, there have got to be over rides. I’m not a sailor, but I’m amazed what you guys do. As a non-sailor, I’d get on his boat. I’d worry more if a captain was reliant on the computers even if they could be over ridden!
@Arrogan28
@Arrogan28 3 жыл бұрын
Can someone explain to me how he can choose to crash into the dock, but not stop the boat with putting her into reverse? ie, if you can turn it, then what other control did he have????
@pilotpeego1820
@pilotpeego1820 3 жыл бұрын
Good ole internet. Judge, jury, and executioner.
@SeeEssPerez
@SeeEssPerez 3 жыл бұрын
Thoroughly enjoy your vids, Tristan! Thanks for sharing.
@borysnijinski331
@borysnijinski331 3 жыл бұрын
When is comes to computerising everything, why on earth do I need to be able to remotely start my car with a smart phone...recipe for hacking. Also, the high level of software controlling this yacht is susceptible to hacking and/or viruses.
@MidnightVisions
@MidnightVisions 3 жыл бұрын
This is nearly an identical accident to this; kzbin.info/www/bejne/rZu2hWegn8qdqrM The superyacht tied up at a fuel dock, then just took off at full speed, ripping the cleats off the dock, crashing through the marina.
@jocktulloch3499
@jocktulloch3499 3 жыл бұрын
That's why he's a pro, and hopefully making a good wage, and why I stick to my 9meter yacht. Classy owner too. In my former trade (car, bus truck tech.) we joked the "train drivers" (engineers) should be sent out to work in the trade for a few months every year, to see what it's like fixing their creations.
@JeppicMarty
@JeppicMarty 3 жыл бұрын
I'm still very confused, the captain did everything he could I acknowledge that, however surely this vessel is not class approved if it does not have manual overrides in accordance with SOLAS. " In general, automatic starting, operational and control systems shall include provisions for manually overriding the automatic controls. Failure of any part of such systems shall not prevent the use of the manual override"
@TheSadButMadLad
@TheSadButMadLad 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like they had some manual control as the captain deliberately steered into the wooden dock. Maybe not enough manual control of the engines to halt the boat, but momentum might have meant the boat couldn't be stopped in time.
@jakobthoboll2759
@jakobthoboll2759 3 жыл бұрын
Dont forget momentum and time factors. On one hand, also manual controls can have a problem, on the other hand, factor of time could explain, why he wasn't able to stop the ship via main engines.
@gotafarmyet4691
@gotafarmyet4691 3 жыл бұрын
They said there was no errors showing or alarms so manual controls or a auto override would not engage as the Computers thought everything was fine. I don't work on yachts but do with computer controlled equipment and networked equipment. Errors with the computer happen all the time and usually just restarting a service is enough but that still takes time to find the issue correct the issue and have the process resume function. He had 13 seconds so he did well. Just because it is computerized doesn't mean the integration needed for 100% operation is there, the fact no alarms sounded hows the software package might not be as integrated as they thought.
@villageintheshire
@villageintheshire 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent analysis. Fully agree with your conclusions. Respect to the captain
@js3688
@js3688 3 жыл бұрын
any situation, especially with hindsight were the person can say "put in the same circumstances, i would do the same again" in my opinion should stand tall and proud, he should be given Freedom of the Town, and be an inspiration to others in the industry that the combined training and experience will pay off when needed in those few critical seconds! i for one Salute you Captain Simon
@getyourmotorrunning...
@getyourmotorrunning... 3 жыл бұрын
Totally agree
@robertfrederick9061
@robertfrederick9061 3 жыл бұрын
Why would a super yacht be built without a manual over ride for such a critical system as maneuvering/propulsion? today's ship masters are in large part bereft of old world non computerized ship handling skills so the yards are trying to built ships that fill the deficit with computer aided maneuvering. Just look at the GLARING fault that a relatively simple angle of attack sensor induced on the 737 Max with its MCAS software glitch. Computer aided maneuvering is great until there's a rare glitch BUT it needs to be able to be DISABLED & the bridge crew needs training as to disconnecting it to regain manual control.
@captainb6104
@captainb6104 3 жыл бұрын
robert frederick Do you know what is SOLAS?
@director471
@director471 3 жыл бұрын
The captain clearly reversed from the dock after the incident so why not apply astern before the crash ?
@jakobthoboll2759
@jakobthoboll2759 3 жыл бұрын
think about time and momentum. He has reaction time, technical delays and then has to stop.
@22alisaxni
@22alisaxni 3 жыл бұрын
1)For any marine accident, the crew and of course the captain trying to get excuses . More than 80% marine accidents, are made due the human factor.!😎 2) during close/tight encounters, docking, mooring, anchoring the captain should have B' Plan and ABORT plan. None of those , are applied in this case😠
@captainb6104
@captainb6104 3 жыл бұрын
Christos Panopoulos Plan B was hitting the dock, as he knew that would have little or no impact, and no people was there at the time. Imagine if he had to choose between the rocks, the bridge, or the people.
@ieremiaekenasio2492
@ieremiaekenasio2492 3 жыл бұрын
The captain looks to have done everything humanly possible. The very lest of the worse scenarios was the best option at the time. Good on him I hope the owner feels very thankful he has one of the best captains with the reflexes of a tiger. Oh and if it was me I would of cracked a beer and said we're f@#$ed
@kerosene4751
@kerosene4751 2 жыл бұрын
It's like the captain hired a marketing company to post comments on youtube describing him as the "hero", "reflexes of a tiger" among other comedy.
@ieremiaekenasio2492
@ieremiaekenasio2492 2 жыл бұрын
@@kerosene4751 how do you figure that?
@kerosene4751
@kerosene4751 2 жыл бұрын
@@ieremiaekenasio2492 Because so many of the comments repeat the same thing, using literally the same words with same objective: to give the captain a big old green pass, and elevate his status to "hero". That's how I figure it.
@ieremiaekenasio2492
@ieremiaekenasio2492 2 жыл бұрын
@@kerosene4751 or maybe most people agree he done the right thing
@cbgranger11
@cbgranger11 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like the software mfg of the piloting system gots some splainin to do...
@philipwilson867
@philipwilson867 3 жыл бұрын
I’m a 70 year old retired railroad locomotive engineer. When I started locomotives had 0 computers on board. When I retired they were loaded with them. We taught the simulators. Now you have a bunch of people who only care about their own little system and just don’t see the big picture! Remember that Airbus that crashed at that air show because the computer would not let go the airplane? It’s the same trains boats and aircraft. It’s always after the fact and crash do investigations find the truth BUT. These computer programmers just won’t listen.. the mind set is .. eliminating the human factors. When I had a computer crash the only thing we could do was kill the locomotive pull all electrical breaker’s an reset restart from scratch. Ok I can stop a train but what about airplanes? What can we do? Well throw the programmer in jail if HIS or her software doesn’t work!
@johnkean6852
@johnkean6852 3 жыл бұрын
All l know is all the tech l have used in the last 20 odd years ALWAYS goes wrong at some point and l shudder to think we sit back and allow it to fly airplanes. Now l discover we've got auto pilot for Yachts/cruiseships too OMG. *Perhaps the lesson here is: ALWAYS manually sail at crucial waypoints* 🤔
@damientelle
@damientelle 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Philip, i am from aircraft industry (Airbus). I would like to highlight that the A320 crash in habsheim show was originally not a fly by wire issue. in short word, the pilot was low (
@abdallanassar5692
@abdallanassar5692 3 жыл бұрын
Allow me to disagree with you captain in windy conditions maneuvering with the wind coming from ahead is much better than when it comes from the stern as the stern is the free part of the vessel with all the turbulence around it unlike the stem of the bow which cutting through the water makes it steadier the slightest change of the wind direction when blowing from the stern will effect the stern movement
@captainb6104
@captainb6104 3 жыл бұрын
Also you would like the wind to blow you away from the danger, not into it. When manoeuvring into the wind you use the engine and rudder to control the speed and direction of the vessel, should you loose the engine or steering you can abort and still be safe.
@ericperkins3078
@ericperkins3078 3 жыл бұрын
I remember my dad telling me "you don't want to own a super yacht, you want to be best friends with the guy/gal who owns a super yacht"
@jamescameron2676
@jamescameron2676 3 жыл бұрын
your videos are very enjoyable and informative your owner is very lucky to have you in his employment keep up the good work
@pookatim
@pookatim 3 жыл бұрын
In pretty much every such incident, people don't seem to realize that it much easier to sit around mulling over what someone "should have done" rather than appreciating the fact that there is simply no time to think and you can only rely on training. It is so much easier to sit in an easy chair, with no stress and all the time in the world and criticize. I could not agree more about the necessity of having a manual over-ride. How much more could that cost?
@trafalgar1938
@trafalgar1938 3 жыл бұрын
Reading and according to all these comments Lord Edward, I haven't seen anyone mulling about what should have been done, just earned praise for a brilliant captain.
@nixer8984
@nixer8984 3 жыл бұрын
Retired 20 yr oil field utility boat Captain here. The way it looks the Go's Capt deserves a commendation from St Maarten. Thank you Captain for an excellent analysis of the facts as we know them. Happily subscribed.
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