Captain Janeway Help Seven of Nine

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April 5, 2063

April 5, 2063

Күн бұрын

Star Trek Voyager Season 6 The Voyager Conspiracy Episode 129

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@JoeyIndolos
@JoeyIndolos 4 жыл бұрын
It was the sudden change in background music that convinced Seven of Nine that Janeway was sincere.
@arguspanoptes9510
@arguspanoptes9510 4 жыл бұрын
"Janeway to Voyager , who beamed the damn orchestra aboard? The Delta Flyer is too top heavy with musicians, it's causing us to drop out of warp"
@EUROPAMusicOfficialChannel
@EUROPAMusicOfficialChannel 3 жыл бұрын
It's amazing that Kate Mulgrew and Jerri Ryan did not get along, yet they could create such a powerful scene together.
@billmurray7473
@billmurray7473 Жыл бұрын
The conflict between the actors was the ⛽️ fuel that gave energy to this scene. Some people call it " channeling " .
@FrancisGo.
@FrancisGo. Жыл бұрын
Stanley Kubrick was famously hard for some people to get along with.
@SepherStar
@SepherStar Жыл бұрын
This scene is perfect for people who don't get along. When I first saw it though I thought it a bit odd that Janeway took a more hostile approach than an empathic one. Maybe it fits with the context though because the Borg are forceful in their commands. I hadn't realized there was some difficulties between Kate Mulgrew and Jeri Ryan at the time. It sounds like Kate Mulgrew has owned up to her treatment of Jeri Ryan though and Jeri Ryan has expressed understanding so I do hope they have reconciled.
@josephmassaro
@josephmassaro Жыл бұрын
There are a lot of shows where actors hated each others guts. Some, the audience knew about and others they found out years later.
@Ama-hi5kn
@Ama-hi5kn Жыл бұрын
Star Trek Voyager was filled with conflict. Robert Beltran didn't care for his role in the end, and he said so himself.
@Euroviking86
@Euroviking86 3 жыл бұрын
These two actresses might've found it hard to work together, but it worked; the relationship between Janeway and Seven is one of my favorite things about Voyager.
@acandrew920
@acandrew920 3 жыл бұрын
This is why I LOVE Star Trek Voyager! Even though the show isn’t perfect for everyone, it’s perfect for me. A Trekkie at heart and always 🖖🏼
@tech83studio38
@tech83studio38 6 жыл бұрын
Poor girl she felt a cascade of emotions for the first time .
@danielwilliamson6180
@danielwilliamson6180 4 жыл бұрын
One of the most saddest and most emotional scenes in the history of Star Trek. 3:25 brought tears to my eyes. It's the background music it makes you feel sympathetic for Seven of Nine.
@SaraMorgan-ym6ue
@SaraMorgan-ym6ue 11 ай бұрын
captian's log star date today I have pizza for dinner🤣
@GradyBaby13
@GradyBaby13 4 жыл бұрын
The more you look into the 7 of 9 character, the deeper it seems to go. Technically, 7 of 9 had 3 mothers: birth mother, borg queen mother, captain mother All 3 mothers were extraordinary achievers : scientist / starfleet captain / world conqueror 7 raised borg children and a futuristic borg son 7 of 9 feel in love (on voyager and in the borg virtual world) She observed first hand the omega molecule - which to the borg was like seeing God. She lived extremely full life compared to everyone else.
@AzguardMike
@AzguardMike 3 жыл бұрын
the only 7 episode i remember is where she wrongly accused a man of raping her. He ended up killing himself when the crew and his own people wouldnt believe him over 7 because a woman wouldnt lie. At the end its revealed 7 did lie by mistake and it ends with "the point is, he COULD of assaulted me" heroic music plays and they fly off. contrast that to the episode of TNG where Riker is accused of the same. Troi cant tell if Riker is lying or the woman he is accused of sexually assaulting. She says to him "Will I know you. I know your reputation. I sense you believe what you are saying, but she also believes that you did assault her." Geordie later says it was his fault for leaving Will alone with the woman to be wrongly accused of sexually assaulting her. Omnous music plays, Riker thanks him and it shows a sad Riker looking out the window knowing that this will effect his relationships. How can a older episode do the MeToo movement 20 years earlier, and better, than a feminist led show in the 2000's?
@michaelanthony5855
@michaelanthony5855 7 жыл бұрын
I love how Seven and Captain Janeways relationship kind of mirrors Data and Captain Picards. Both Janeway and Picard befriend and guide Seven and Data to dicover and grow into their humanity.
@lexsmith8689
@lexsmith8689 6 жыл бұрын
NOT EVEN CLOSE!! Janeway was a true friend and mother figure to Seven!! All picard did was that when Data found himself in a blunder picard psychobabbled it like an annoyed teacher for him so as to jump to a logical conclusion where it was reproducted and recorded as another axiom in human social interaction science..
@raphaelrae8186
@raphaelrae8186 4 жыл бұрын
I didn't notice that similarity! Do you suppose it's intentional?
@dan292009
@dan292009 4 жыл бұрын
Now Picard will be a father a figure to Seven 😊
@8Rincewind
@8Rincewind 4 жыл бұрын
The relationships have many parallels and a similar trajectory. A starship Captain supports and perhaps encourages their synthetic officer in the pursuit of their own version of humanity. One key difference is that 7 was reluctant to. pursue her own humanity and few people questioned that she was at least somewhat human. Many crew members doubted she would succeed and felt she was too much of a borg to find her humanity. But it could not be denied that she was at least partially human. In contrast Data's desire to be human was entirely his own. His humanity and emotions (ignoring the emotion chip for now) were far different from what organic species were used to. Nobody could really understand Data, perhaps not even Data himself. While 7 was encouraged to find something that was lost, Data of his own volition looked to create something entirely new. The nature of their relationships was also different. I believe Picard was a good, noble, kind and emotional Captain, while remaining very stoic. Perhaps Picard could've shown more emotion, but that wasn't who he was. I believe he proved well enough that he considered his crew his friends and maybe a kind of family. Janeway was more of a mother to 7 of 9. Their relationship went much much deeper than that and we could apply a whole load of labels to their relationship. Janeway was still a captain first, but the emotional connection and support and had with 7 was very different to the friendship Picard had with Data.
@krzosu
@krzosu 4 жыл бұрын
Pickard was not much into guiding data per say - Jordi was more into that - Pickard mostly just acknowledged and reckognised the progress as data grew. The one of the real breakthrough moments was when data asked for command of the starship and was curious why he was left out - and pickard acknowledged that it was his own line of thinking (aka data is just an android) that was the main reason why he was left out and he corrected that by giving him the command. so they could make the net to decloak the romulan convoy shipping stuf to duras sisters during their war against Gawron.
@Mademoiselle_Katie
@Mademoiselle_Katie 5 жыл бұрын
This scene is one of my all-time favorite Captain Janeway moments, especially from 2:38-4:50. Captain Janeway was such a mother-figure to Seven of Nine and truly helped her on her road to individuality. Janeway was loving, caring, compassionate and loyal to Seven; truly treating her as a daughter and taking her under her wings. Such a beautiful and moving scene between the two, with great acting by Kate Mulgrew and Jeri Ryan. Additionally, the strings that play when Janeway recites her captain's logs is a lovely piece of music and makes the scene even more poignant ❤
@nicholasdickens2801
@nicholasdickens2801 4 жыл бұрын
Deleted scene: “Sentimentality is irrelevant. Your attempt to ‘reach me’ has been - successful.”
@andreap9869
@andreap9869 4 жыл бұрын
Considering they hated each other irl, it proves what great actors they were that we couldn't tell.
@thatlonewolfguy2878
@thatlonewolfguy2878 4 жыл бұрын
Why did they hate each other? Surely that would have spelled doom for the show
@andreap9869
@andreap9869 4 жыл бұрын
@@thatlonewolfguy2878 trekmovie.com/2017/07/02/kate-mulgrew-talks-sex-and-seven-of-nine-on-star-trek-voyager/
@0x1EGEN
@0x1EGEN 3 жыл бұрын
@@andreap9869 That article doesn't imply anything with them hating each other. It just talks about how Kate didn't want herself to be sexualized in the show which resulted in Jeri Ryan being recruited to take that spot. She was just uncomfortable with having a female character being sexualized for the sake of the nerdy audiences.
@DocDarkness
@DocDarkness 3 жыл бұрын
They didn't hate each other persey, but they didn't work well together all the time and Kate Mulgrew did make Jeri Ryan feel very uncomfortable on set at times and Jeri admits that she sometimes hated doing scenes with kate. The main sticking point was Kate didn't like the injection of Jeri's sex appeal. She felt that the show didn't need it and was counterproductive to the message that strong female leads don't need to be wrapped in skin tight spandex to be strong and effective. Most people realize that Jeri was brought on to help with ratings but her character became a fan favorite not just because she was beautiful but also because of smart writing and great character development. Most people agree that the strong points of the final few seasons of the show were the relationship between the doctor and seven which was something they leaned heavily on. I think things improved on set over time and I they get along now.
@chrispeplinski7306
@chrispeplinski7306 6 жыл бұрын
I remember this episode. Seven and janeway were great
@3adgamd3r
@3adgamd3r 4 жыл бұрын
Ironic since the actresses had a massive feud going on lol
@ReelMeurik
@ReelMeurik 3 жыл бұрын
@@3adgamd3r Both were professionals, despite their personal problems with each other. They did manage to eventually work things out (years later, but still)
@3adgamd3r
@3adgamd3r 3 жыл бұрын
@@ReelMeurik yeah, which is good 😊 I’d love to see some Janeway again soon
@ДмитрийКаганер
@ДмитрийКаганер 3 жыл бұрын
That's not ironic, by the way. That's even more awesome. Kate Mulgrew and Jery Ryan were feuding, but both knew that captain Janeway and Seven of Nine did not, and thus they found strength to put aside their hostilities and do the right thing. Few have this kind of virtue.
@Devinblack2013
@Devinblack2013 4 жыл бұрын
This is one of my favorite scenes from the entire series. I love that this was the Star Trek show that was airing when I was a small child. It always caught my imagination and I grew up trying to be as smart as Janeway, as knowledgeable as Seven, and as technically savy as Belanna.
@reidycruise
@reidycruise 4 жыл бұрын
Devin Black I grew up with Kirk 🙂 I like all Star Trek but the later series after the next generation and excluding voyager have bee too linear if you get what I mean 👍
@thomashernandez1004
@thomashernandez1004 3 жыл бұрын
Man isn't Voyager amazing though! That is three unique female role models in one show! I wish there were more shows still around like Star Trek Voyager, TNG, DS9 and Enterprise...
@elleesse824
@elleesse824 7 жыл бұрын
Its a shame that these two didn't get along at the time of filming; knowing this can sometimes undermine enjoying the series
@austinboylan5476
@austinboylan5476 7 жыл бұрын
Elle Esse They've reconciled in recent years though.
@KEYSERSOZE1965
@KEYSERSOZE1965 7 жыл бұрын
You know I’ve heard a lot about this feud that was going on between them during filming and yet they pulled off one of the best mother-daughter relationships I’ve ever seen. I know they’re actors and all but I just find it hard to believe they had such a personal struggle going behind the scenes and yet you would have thought they were very close when on camera.
@artabenzie-youssef4782
@artabenzie-youssef4782 6 жыл бұрын
Elle Esse A
@ransom182
@ransom182 6 жыл бұрын
That's exactly what I was thinking - a real shame.
@neomatrix6749
@neomatrix6749 6 жыл бұрын
Laura Springer awww your serious!? Awww maan...
@Patruicio
@Patruicio 4 жыл бұрын
You can clearly see that what hurts Janeway the most is that Seven for a brief moment stops trusting her!!!!
@Shory22
@Shory22 7 жыл бұрын
I love this scene. It was more like mother to child.
@GuardianofRoin
@GuardianofRoin 3 жыл бұрын
If only talking down a conspiracy theorist was this easy in this day and age.
@MrKago1
@MrKago1 3 жыл бұрын
thats EXACTLY what the alien illuminati lizard people space vampires would say! you wont steal my thoughts like you did JFK's! *puts on tinfoil hat and then copper wire pyramid on top of that while rubbing quartz amulet vigorously*
@peterharrell7305
@peterharrell7305 3 жыл бұрын
"everyone who disagrees with me is a conspiracy theorist."
@mikevanroy9356
@mikevanroy9356 3 жыл бұрын
Well when everyone's favorite recurring character is Q you have to expect some conspiracy theories.
@bleirdo_dude
@bleirdo_dude 2 жыл бұрын
That's the power of the Dopamine Reward System to stave off reason.
@TIG5574
@TIG5574 2 жыл бұрын
The difference being even the Borg can be reasonable at times. ;)
@arguspanoptes9510
@arguspanoptes9510 4 жыл бұрын
"Delta flyer to Voyager ,two to beam out" only to merge in a horrible transporter accident as Janeway of Nine
@RandomGuy33369
@RandomGuy33369 4 жыл бұрын
Smash
@victorbruant389
@victorbruant389 4 жыл бұрын
Voyager, what we got back ... didn't live long ... fortunately.
@jimhall1170
@jimhall1170 4 жыл бұрын
I just love this scene
@eliseives9574
@eliseives9574 4 жыл бұрын
I'd watch that.
@startreker20
@startreker20 4 жыл бұрын
Janeway of Nine, ultimate enemy of the borg collective
@wiiu7640
@wiiu7640 4 жыл бұрын
Feels so odd revisiting this after hearing about the two actors having resentful thoughts about each other. They really did some good work if that’s how they felt about each other, because this scene feels very real to me.
@XDanW91
@XDanW91 6 жыл бұрын
When I see scenes like this I find it so hard to believe there was tension between these two ladies on set.
@jasonpye4649
@jasonpye4649 3 жыл бұрын
For a period of time, yea
@Mxyzptlksac
@Mxyzptlksac 3 жыл бұрын
It’s called professionalism.
@technopirate304
@technopirate304 3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately not the kind some of the fanbase wanted 🤣😂
@shurue8628
@shurue8628 4 жыл бұрын
While the theory 7 concocted is obviously ridiculous, there are definitely elements in Star Fleet that would do anything to dissect her for information on fighting the Borg.
@MrDibara
@MrDibara 4 жыл бұрын
Section 31, right? Glad those guys had their hands full with the Dominion, though.
@teleportedbreadfor3days
@teleportedbreadfor3days 3 жыл бұрын
I believe the majority of Starfleet would have her protected, especially since Seven would have far grown out her Borg origins and would already regain lots of her Humanity by the time Voyager returns to Earth. If anything, though, she'd be an idol of hope of some kind to those who lost loved ones to the Borg.
@U2QuoZepplin
@U2QuoZepplin 3 жыл бұрын
An expert masterclass in acting by Jeri Ryan and Kate Mulgrew, but then Star Trek has a fine tradition for selecting brilliant actors to lead its landmark shows.
@nancypujol9165
@nancypujol9165 5 жыл бұрын
I like Captain Janeway voice it's kind of sexy
@jasonpye4649
@jasonpye4649 3 жыл бұрын
It's not too bad in person either
@NoahMizrahi
@NoahMizrahi 7 ай бұрын
Turn this ship around seven, Seven of nine: NO not untill you change that 1990's hair wig type of deal. Janeway: you rite seven there is a hair conspricy here its janeway hair. deal wit it
@redmondpeters6221
@redmondpeters6221 3 жыл бұрын
I CAN'T imagine the chaos in her mind. Seven's head probably would have SPLIT open. Clearly she was scared.
@ArcanusEst
@ArcanusEst 3 жыл бұрын
People rag on Voyager's writing, and I concede that the episode concepts were often formulaic and repetitive, but it never lost sight of the true vision of Star Trek: not a journey of convoluted space politics and masturbatory worldbuilding, but about what it means to be human. How the bonds of friendship, loyalty, and love persist, revealed through metaphors of aliens and tachyons and subspace distortions. Sadly, it went downhill after this. Enterprise was too enamoured with Star Trek history and put too much focus on the events that led to the founding of the Federation, and Discovery is all "this replicated food is literally our own shit" and "Oh, look, Michael is crying for the sixth time in thirteen episodes". Even Picard was terrible. "Hey, let's devote a whole series to this beloved character, but rather than make him important we'll just have him along for the ride, being subjected to ruthless character assassination the entire fucking time and then in the end we kill him." What utter garbage. I am so sad for the state of Trek. Scenes like this just don't happen anymore. The writers today have no appreciation for the identity of the series.
@nancypujol9165
@nancypujol9165 5 жыл бұрын
I feel like Captain Janeway is speaking right to me every word that she's telling 7 that she's talking right to me I love Captain Janeway and she gives great advice
@danielwilliamson6180
@danielwilliamson6180 4 жыл бұрын
Jeri Ryan's acting here to be fair is great.
@jonathanrobertson3406
@jonathanrobertson3406 2 жыл бұрын
Wow. Just wow. Brilliant writing.
@kimberly6663
@kimberly6663 6 жыл бұрын
These two were meant to be :’)
@dkfavs
@dkfavs 6 жыл бұрын
Great scene between the two, especially at 3:36 and 4:04. Captain Janeway was such a mother to Seven. A mother Seven was not able to have.
@fearisthemind-killer
@fearisthemind-killer 4 жыл бұрын
I had to fight hard during that scene. It doesn't count unless it actually runs down your face, damn it.
@EUROPAMusicOfficialChannel
@EUROPAMusicOfficialChannel 4 жыл бұрын
The lump in my throat is simply a thyroid issue.
@darthkurland
@darthkurland 6 жыл бұрын
Damn it, Annika! Let Janeway help you!
@vismortis
@vismortis 9 ай бұрын
Ok Shaw. “Lt Laforge calls me commander Seven as a sign of respect” Commander Seven to Captain Shaw USS Titan-A working on the Klingon cloak. “I have been Seven of Nine for as long as I remember” “How about, Seven” “that is acceptable”. Seven of Nine to Captain Janeway, Read Room USS Voyager.
@random-dc3xr
@random-dc3xr 10 ай бұрын
Like dang. This scene 😭😭😭😭😭
@mandelorean6243
@mandelorean6243 Жыл бұрын
You can see the animosity between them... People talking about its magic, they're relationship despite hearing eachother... But I you can see it on their faces
@TheEDFLegacy
@TheEDFLegacy 3 жыл бұрын
I wish more people in real life could be reasoned after going down a conspiratorial rabbit hole like this.
@jadapinkett1656
@jadapinkett1656 Жыл бұрын
Most conspiracies are true.
@Ragitsu
@Ragitsu Жыл бұрын
@@jadapinkett1656 Nope.
@Nonaggress
@Nonaggress Жыл бұрын
It helps Seven is cybernetically hardwired against the neuroses that get humans caught up. Even if she can't handle the data, she doesn't attach any sentimental value to her theories. Humans are far more vulnerable to sunk cost fixation-if they are deep enough in their rabbit hole, they can't handle realizing it was all for nothing. Seven lacks this insecurity.
@mkbuddy
@mkbuddy 3 жыл бұрын
Captain Janeway was the kindest captain to her crew but god help her enemies
@vismortis
@vismortis 9 ай бұрын
Yeah look what she reduced the Queen to. Sure there are other functional Borg out there but the Queen was reduced to a parasite.
@Broockle
@Broockle 7 жыл бұрын
Dat conspiracy depends on a ton of super unlikely scenarios to occur. Like Voyager ending up in the Delta quadrant and surviving the entire trip back to earth, and the Borg specifically sending seven to Voyager during the events of Scorpion.
@KenshiImmortalWolf
@KenshiImmortalWolf 7 жыл бұрын
When you have a Conspiracy, you tend to not think logically. Most Conspiracy theories have massive gaps in logic that people can see from the outside but that they will argue do not matter or do not consider.
@Broockle
@Broockle 7 жыл бұрын
guess so
@ViewTube_Emperor_of_Mankind
@ViewTube_Emperor_of_Mankind 8 ай бұрын
Their on-screen presence was always so great and this was such a powerful scene. She is like a mother figure for her but also more. It makes a little more sense Seven is into women in Picard when I think about it. And man.. did I hate her outfit.. She looks so much better in more badass clothes with long hair... even in the old uniforms she looks so much better than this.. eye-candy trash.
@caterinadc5567
@caterinadc5567 10 ай бұрын
I cried. Good TV. And, as others point out, a testament to two actresses who weren't getting along well offscreen at the time. Impressive that they performed this way, considering.
@christopherg2347
@christopherg2347 Жыл бұрын
I kept thinking: "If this was a Outer Limits Episode, there would be a decent chance Sevens final conspiracy was real."
@busywl69
@busywl69 4 жыл бұрын
love their relationship
@nancypujol9165
@nancypujol9165 5 жыл бұрын
That was beautiful I love that one
@Juidodin
@Juidodin 4 жыл бұрын
amazing how often seven failed when she told someone that something will fail but then didnt :D
@harrukuehn6661
@harrukuehn6661 7 жыл бұрын
Mother and daughter, not anymore than that despite fanfiction. Janeway had no children, Harry, Tom, Belanna and Seven became her family.
@nowwithattitude4685
@nowwithattitude4685 6 жыл бұрын
Harru Kuehn I'm glad you feel the need to enforce that....
@technopirate304
@technopirate304 3 жыл бұрын
Janeway was a serious mom to the crew. Love the scene in which she sternly dresses down Harry and Tom for fighting with some aliens. She dismisses them. However, as they leave she sneakily asks Tom “Did you when the fight?” Tom says yes and Janeway smiles like “I ain’t raising no wimps”.
@brucejemcek6986
@brucejemcek6986 2 ай бұрын
Mulgrew didn’t “hate” Jeri Ryan. Kate Mulgrew didn’t like the feeling of being overshadowed by a 10 years younger, slender, stunning beauty who could also act. Any woman would feel that way. Jeri Ryan provided the delicious element that saved Voyager’s ratings and kept it on the air for many more seasons.
@ctbt1832
@ctbt1832 4 жыл бұрын
Great story line
@samsmith1358
@samsmith1358 4 жыл бұрын
These two had such great chemistry. It shows how good their acting talents were, when you consider Mulgrew was causing all kinds of emotional trouble for Ryan to the point of making Ryan throw up before their scenes together.
@Foebane72
@Foebane72 7 жыл бұрын
I remember this episode well, that was a LOT of DIALOGUE for Jeri Ryan to recite! Damn, wonder how many takes it took?
@amitakartok
@amitakartok 7 жыл бұрын
Based on the camera angle, they could've used a teleprompter this one time.
@kevinfelix2543
@kevinfelix2543 4 жыл бұрын
I miss this kind of writing
@vismortis
@vismortis 9 ай бұрын
That alcove was a problem for quite some time. Hell even after Voyager made it home the damn thing tried to assimilate Voyager, the museum worker and some of the USS Cerritos crew
@randomhobbies5796
@randomhobbies5796 4 жыл бұрын
Mother daughter relationship...
@walterschivo9123
@walterschivo9123 11 ай бұрын
I swear this was almost a moment where 7 of 9 was going to shed tears.
@brucejemcek6986
@brucejemcek6986 3 ай бұрын
It would have been hot if Janeway and 7 began a lesbian relationship
@CaptainM792
@CaptainM792 7 жыл бұрын
Can you do the first battle in enterprise episode "the expense " please. That battle where three starfleet ships come to assist enterprise with a Klingon ship.
@April-dv2pb
@April-dv2pb 7 жыл бұрын
The next video that I will post will that episode.
@craterglass
@craterglass 3 жыл бұрын
When you crit your persuasion check.
@karl9503
@karl9503 4 жыл бұрын
I wish I had Janeway as my mentor or manager.
@marcziegenhain8420
@marcziegenhain8420 6 жыл бұрын
I just remembered the episode, where Seven mentioned the "First Contact" events.
@erinocelotl3578
@erinocelotl3578 4 жыл бұрын
Wait what? Which one?
@callmeishmael2415
@callmeishmael2415 4 жыл бұрын
Wasn't that the episode called Relativity, 7 had to go back in time to stop Voyager exploding, it was a time paradox that was brought up
@erinocelotl3578
@erinocelotl3578 4 жыл бұрын
@@callmeishmael2415 oohhhhh yeah I think I remember, I'll watch it. I think they were asking her about the Borg and then she explained it
@callmeishmael2415
@callmeishmael2415 4 жыл бұрын
@@erinocelotl3578 yeah causality loop I the borg went back to stop the first flight, enterprise went back to stop the borg, in the process that actually helped the first flight. Or something like that
@erinocelotl3578
@erinocelotl3578 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah :D forgot about that. I love it when they mention other series
@Panwere36
@Panwere36 4 жыл бұрын
This is what happens after you are jolted out of an echo chamber cult mentality.
@malikevans634
@malikevans634 3 жыл бұрын
1:30 I would have lost it beyond comprehension if Seven finished her spiel, and then Janeway was like. "... *What*?"
@mitche5007
@mitche5007 2 жыл бұрын
I think Captain Janeway sees seven of nine as the daughter she never had.
@DaTrixie
@DaTrixie Жыл бұрын
Oh the ship fanfiction of these two, mommy want!
@JeroAstra
@JeroAstra 10 ай бұрын
This is a very real depiction of paranoia, and to some degree, imposter syndrome. Id be lying if I said I didnt feel like this at some point in my life.
@AvatarRiku
@AvatarRiku 4 жыл бұрын
Seven’s logic was flawed, given without 8472, Janeway had no leverage over the Borg.
@davfree9732
@davfree9732 3 жыл бұрын
I always regretted the producers didn't take this episode and run with it as true... up to a point. The idea that Janeway was on, or that Starfleet had a branch that knew of the Collector and stole his power core could have given the series the shot in the arm it needed. Instead they went with the cute ending where emotional appeals to authority sway characters out of what they think is right. The worst one was when Janeway stopped a crewman from doing something dangerous, heard their speech about 'needing to do this for X reason,' and Janeway folds without any pushback or giving the crewman better survival odds.
@yamato6114
@yamato6114 Жыл бұрын
That’s the whole point of the episode though - conspiracy theories are sadly a real and prevalent thing in modern society. And the truth is… conspiracies unfortunately have a way of exploiting the human tendency to try and make patterns out of chaos.
@gamepad3153
@gamepad3153 3 жыл бұрын
20 years of being a drone it must have affected Severn on a psychological level. a lot more than it did Picard.
@jessejagg3d
@jessejagg3d 6 ай бұрын
I think it's interesting that Janeway is sitting a bit lower than Seven at the end of the scene. She got through to her by allowing herself to be vulnerable
@vubhuhjkbhubohjb
@vubhuhjkbhubohjb 3 жыл бұрын
This is the opposite of the scene in The Truman Show where Truman's "friend" tries to convince him it's all real.....
@windowsxseven
@windowsxseven 3 жыл бұрын
*7'S STARSHIP PLACE* _“I don't trust like that”_
@joemunch58
@joemunch58 6 жыл бұрын
7 of 9 is so full of anger, which is antithetical to the borg.
@reason4being
@reason4being 4 жыл бұрын
It's not the borg side thats angry
@scottishwarrior8014
@scottishwarrior8014 4 жыл бұрын
It’s what happens when you give a Borg some weed 😂
@willcal2738
@willcal2738 Жыл бұрын
4:34 in the alternate universe, janeway pulls out a phaser and toasts her giblets
@zatnikatel1472
@zatnikatel1472 3 жыл бұрын
I guess they left the Delta flyers drifting in space since then in the Delta Quadrant 😂
@martinmanifold2241
@martinmanifold2241 5 жыл бұрын
Get some sleep 7 ..
@thetransparenttransparentd3675
@thetransparenttransparentd3675 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@daniel_sc1024
@daniel_sc1024 3 жыл бұрын
"Two to beam out." Why not fly the Delta Flyer back to Voyager?
@CheefSmokealot64
@CheefSmokealot64 5 ай бұрын
Captn Janeway hasn’t learned what men who have gone through divorce have learned. You can’t fix a woman. When a woman like 7 of 9 is so broken she can’t be fixed. It’s best to leave her alone and move on…. 😂
@Gredddfe
@Gredddfe 4 жыл бұрын
If only it were even possible to reason with conspiracy theorists.....
@jonathanmckeage8222
@jonathanmckeage8222 3 жыл бұрын
Why would they dissect 7of9 when Picard is tacitly a borg
@LivSal22
@LivSal22 4 жыл бұрын
Awe!! So good! 😂
@yun6989
@yun6989 6 ай бұрын
This episode feels familiar. Doom scrolling, information bias, paranoia, conspiracy theories. Good golly, hope that doesn't happen to us. Oh wait... :/
@Straylight4299
@Straylight4299 5 жыл бұрын
4:43 Now kiss.
@ambercrest8966
@ambercrest8966 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@TheWhosthatpokemon
@TheWhosthatpokemon 3 жыл бұрын
Poor Queen Annika
@martinmanifold2241
@martinmanifold2241 5 жыл бұрын
Too much accelerated learning = tin foil hat ... .get plenty of sleep ...too much info too soon can lead to mental health Problems...pace yourself
@prasadaraok7058
@prasadaraok7058 5 ай бұрын
All inicedent were occurred in my house
@martinmanifold2241
@martinmanifold2241 5 жыл бұрын
Motz !! Chew e choo ☆☆▪︎▪︎
@elizabethstarling3203
@elizabethstarling3203 6 жыл бұрын
I'm a J/C'er all the way but... This was low key romantic af.
@Navak_
@Navak_ 5 жыл бұрын
No it wasn't lmao have you ever had a friend
@technopirate304
@technopirate304 3 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah
@OGTabo0
@OGTabo0 3 жыл бұрын
Anyone else notice this was uploaded in 2063?
@odisseusrh
@odisseusrh 3 жыл бұрын
and to think off screen they had tension
@robok7034
@robok7034 4 жыл бұрын
Jet exuast trails.... Yaa, thats the ticket...
@ilay342
@ilay342 3 жыл бұрын
Historians wouls say they were very close friends😏
@walnic93
@walnic93 Жыл бұрын
Quick someone write down those coordinates... They left their delta flyer behind
@AhsokaTanoTheWhite
@AhsokaTanoTheWhite 4 жыл бұрын
I really wish they had given 7 a starfleet uniform. Like Troi, they both looked better in them
@April-dv2pb
@April-dv2pb 4 жыл бұрын
I agree. 🖖
@arzangofthebrothersoflightario
@arzangofthebrothersoflightario 11 ай бұрын
Downloading Voyager's data made my head fry, making all sorts of ridiculous and schizoid theories that only made sense to me. Thank fuck Captain Janeway helped me to see the error of my ways, else I would have (once again) endangered Voyager and its crew..
@jeffburnham6611
@jeffburnham6611 3 жыл бұрын
And to think Kate and Jerri hated each other while filming the series.
@emaayan
@emaayan 3 жыл бұрын
It's funny how she almost got the conspiracy but in reverse, it's the queen that planted her
@HippeusOmega
@HippeusOmega Жыл бұрын
If you choose to believe the queen. She could've been manipulating Seven
@vismortis
@vismortis 9 ай бұрын
@@HippeusOmega the queen lies to get what she wants. “Overwhelming force, lacking that deception, win at all costs”. Seven Of Nine to Admiral Picard.
@thec4fourhundred520
@thec4fourhundred520 4 жыл бұрын
Helps.
@jamiecrete149
@jamiecrete149 7 жыл бұрын
Okay everyone, how fast can you recall seven's complete name!
@austinboylan5476
@austinboylan5476 7 жыл бұрын
Annika Hansen aka Seven of Nine, Tertiary Adjunct of Unimatrix 01
@jamiecrete149
@jamiecrete149 7 жыл бұрын
Isn't that fun! -and kudos for adding her pre-borg name designation as well.
@Fent1231
@Fent1231 7 жыл бұрын
When you got google not that hard.
@jamiecrete149
@jamiecrete149 7 жыл бұрын
I'm expecting the honor system. Otherwise, what's the fun?
@erinocelotl3578
@erinocelotl3578 4 жыл бұрын
Well I know I'm a bit late but Seven's my ultimate favourite Star Trek character (it's only been a few months that I've really gotten into this, dunno why I never bothered before) and I know it off by heart lol, still confused about what it means though. Apparently Unimatrix 01 are drones that work for the Queen but I'm confused as to how it works because, just 9? Just 9 drones in Unimatrix 01? Surely there'd be tons of them. I don't know I wish the Borg were easier to understand sometimes, even though they're cool mysterious... IDK
@elanorglf
@elanorglf Жыл бұрын
Instead of returning in the Delta Flyer they beam out?? 🤔🤔
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