The Slow Death of the Bourne Franchise

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Jason Bourne's adventure started with The Bourne Identity in 2002 and went on to two sequels directed by Paul Greengrass that redefined action cinema. But since Bourne Ultimatum, things just haven't worked for the franchise. In this video I talk about the Matt Damon character, and why he has failed to stick around like 007 and even Ethan Hunt have.
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[@captainmidnight]

What's your favorite Bourne movie? Go to brilliant.org/Midnight/ and sign up for free, the first 200 people that go to that link will get 20% off the annual Premium subscription

[@vishthefish2078]

Mine is born for magic a 2007 cgi movie set in a fantasy world about a guy who’s older sister is the chosen one but they made a mistake a it’s him so he has to go on a quest to stop the evil well fighting his sister

[@SDguy3030]

2nd one

[@maxpops8427]

Bourne Identity

[@andrewmanchiraju8005]

Ultimatum

[@eyesack2007]

I think Supremacy is the best one

[@spongehead93]

I kinda think we need to get out of this “franchise” mindset for a lot of series. I don’t see Bourne as a franchise, I see it as a great trilogy with some sad attempts at franchising years later. Sometimes, it’s good to just let things end.

[@JohnWilliams-wl9px]

Agreed

[@Real_MisterSir]

agreed. Franchising needs to be something that is planned ahead of time, not something that is later added to a succesful product just to try and milk its succes even further.

[@aretwodeetoo1181]

That is precisely correct. The problem is not the "Bourne franchise", the problem (with Bourne and so much else) is the framing in terms of "franchise" or IP. That studios use that framing I find despicable but understandable given the prevailing incentives. That anyone else would defies understanding...

[@Lazrael32]

well there are about a billion sequel novels now.... most of them not written by the original author! (of course there are books by fictional tv actors now too so whatever.)

[@keyblader2k6]

totally agree. problem is when "mega franchises" arose (harry potter, lord of the rings, mcu, etc) and the almight corporate greed were like "we want to get in on that right now"

[@commanderglitch1013]

The original 3 are the best and the score is amazing

[@danteedmunds1820]

Bim Bam Smash in the 2nd film is epic

[@verstappen9937]

Imo 5 is better than 3

[@jcheck1107]

The fight scenes are absolutely terrible. They were all cut to hell

[@eziospaghettiauditore8369]

@@jcheck1107 I agree. They look cool choreography with the shaky cam is just too much I wish they'd done more like winter soldier where you still have the action in the center of the screen but there is still jump cuts for energy

[@chcknpie04]

Just stop at original

[@crosseightyeight]

Last time I was this early, Jason Bourne was still floating in the ocean.

[@SuperMurray2009]

Good one

[@phatmantv]

Bruh

[@4thopinion792]

Nice.

[@Deebz270]

Sorry, your joke is totally meaningless... Early for what exactly?

[@livingminimumwage6359]

The Bourne franchise is what we call a sunday afternoon dad movie. The kind of movie you sit down and watch with your old man when you come visit home from college. You don't rent it, it just comes on on cable. I'd be lying if I said I didn't love the series when I was growing up. It just sucks that the studio felt it needed to keep this franchise going. Those first few were 2000s action icons.

[@thatonedude5625]

@living minimum wage can relate

[@Jack-nn6gn]

thats the perfect way to describe them lol

[@tedsmart5539]

And it's a race to see if you or your dad falls asleep 1st.

[@fbritannia]

@@tedsmart5539 It's always me, but I still had fun with those films. Even if I can barely remember them (and only watched them like 2 years ago)

[@RobertK1993]

Movie studios are capitalist companies they need make money so sequels reboots remakes are way to go.

[@Panimal98]

Jesus Christ, a video on Jason Bourne!

[@Flome810]

This

[@davidmckesey7119]

This comment is a great "asset"

[@Zeus57234]

Damnit you beat me to it

[@niktorrente6640]

David Webb you mean?

[@isaacwilcox3010]

This meme is literally the only thing I know about Jason Bourne. I’ve never heard of him otherwise.

[@fufunumnum]

Winter Soldier wouldve been a very different movie if the Bourne Movies never existed.

[@joshentertainment2]

@CYB3R2K30 lol

[@logic8187]

I love that movie.

[@sr.little2128]

@CYB3R2K30 such a sad boi

[@15Candles]

Honestly every other action movies especially the ones that are directed by Oliver Megaton would've been way different in terms of directing style if the Bounre movies didn't exists because after Bourne came out almost every action movies tried to copied off the shaky cam and editing that Bourne had but failed miserably. The Russo Brothers in Winter Soldier maybe the only filmmaker that's as close is copying Greengrass' style just right

[@sr.little2128]

@@15Candles I'm also trying this style shaky focus, I don't know if it's good

[@warfjm]

Everything after the original trilogy can be summarized with "Why does this exist?"

[@MikeB12800]

I would say the same for any Trek show after TNG.

[@horaciosi]

But enough about Pirates of the Caribbean.

[@janetuss6496]

but enough about indiana jones too

[@Boxghost102]

@@MikeB12800 no.

[@Tethloach1]

Unless they have more fresh idea's to write it usually is just a cash grab. That applies to movies, tv shows, video games, books, music, theater, art, dance, philosophy, poetry etc.

[@GrainneMhaol]

The first three were a well-executed, emotionally satisfying trilogy. I watched the next two, but couldn't tell you what happened.

[@politereminder6284]

The first three were loosely based on the original novels, so the clear story is thanks to the plot of that. The rest of them are made up later works, with plots not by the original author of the books, hence... Well, I always preferred the books.

[@thebigpicture2032]

The first one was the best and they went downhill from there. If there was a peak in the second one, it was before Marie was killed. They tried to correct that mistake with a Nicky Parsons love interest but that didn’t work and for good measure they killed her off in the last one.

[@charlesdoyle3630]

@@politereminder6284 very loosely based off of. Still pissed they did not really do the Jackal

[@Ebalosus]

@@thebigpicture2032 this! The sequels didn’t need to be as convoluted as they were, and compared to the first movie, relied too heavily on Bourne pulling bait-and-switches on his adversaries. _"Well Pam, why don’t you get Nicky Parsons to come and talk to me? What if I can’t find her? Well given that she’s standing RIGHT NEXT TO YOU LOLOLOLOL."_ End scene, insert Moby music here.

[@burritobrosvideos8060]

They sucked

[@banyarling]

The problem wasn't "shaky cam" at all. It was CUTTING EVERY 2 OR 3 SECONDS. The subsequent popularity of this practice has made fight scenes much worse in general.

[@rrson648]

100% correct.

[@daveclark8337]

"What's wrong with cutting away every 3 seconds?"- Tony Scott

[@filmnobelpreis]

They still managed to show clearly what happened despite of quick cutting and shaky cam. Other films apply quick cutting and shaky cam trying to avoid to show what happens, it seems to me.

[@emptyblank099a]

@@filmnobelpreis No its crap.

[@NathanDrakeTheGreat]

More like milliseconds. The Taken series is one of the worst offenders, along with Quantum of Solace.

[@ruggerREL]

How people love John wick today is how much folk loved the Bourne identity in 04

[@aretwodeetoo1181]

Recently watched both with my nephew as a film lesson. It's not close to being close. Bourne has character development, the villains are multi-dimensional, the action serves the story, the setting is experienced rather than explained. John Wick is the opposite of all those things.

[@wasd____]

@@aretwodeetoo1181 The point was that people love both of the franchises, not to compare the franchises on artistic merits (which is misguided anyway, since they have different goals with regard to aesthetics and character exploration so of course they're going to feel different in the ways you mentioned).

[@Gameprojordan]

John wick reminds me of an action shooting video game in movie form: no real plot, just enough reason to justify the protagonists motives, then add in some flashy tactical gun handling and over the top killing

[@lunaxz36]

@@Gameprojordan yea I think that can be said about a lot of movies, John wick is just a simple action movie that requires no thinking and people enjoy it because of the ridiculousness and fights of it not because of the plot that doesn’t exist. Kind of like a Kong vs Godzilla, ridiculous story and subpar acting but everyone enjoys it because of the fights

[@mr.b.4048]

Love John Wick? Shallow 😩 and boring 🥱... switched off after not too long

[@seanfisher6904]

I haven't seen any Bourne beyond the original trilogy, but I do think a continuation could work in theory. While the amnesia was a good hook for the Jason Bourne character, the real emotion behind the series was the way Bourne and his fellow operatives were humanized. This line from Identity (reused in Ultimatum), sums up the series very well IMO: "Look at us. Look at what they make you give." There's also a detail from Supremacy that I really like, where Jason's previous handler, Nikki Parsons, explains that the Treadstone operatives were prone to depression and other mental health crises. There's a real sadness to a lot of the rival operatives in the series, and the way that they're run ragged and discarded so haphazardly. The fact that Jason's first mission wasn't even legally sanctioned by the CIA, and was instead a coverup for one man's greed, really nails this point home.

[@filmreviewer117]

You summed it up brilliantly, Bourne is about an assassin with memory loss slowly discovering he was a terrible person and the guilt he feels trying to come to terms with who he really is. once that is resolved there is no more story as he's then just another assassin working against another shady goerment.

[@rhettgedies7467]

_The Bourne Legacy_ gets way too much hate. I really think it's solid, self-contained, and stable. It's a spin-off that surprisingly is better than it has any right to be.

[@beno1129]

I agree, it was a solid movie. Although at the end (spoilers) Rachel Weisz's character saved Aaron Cross, not the other way around. In theory a series about other Treadstone assassins and their motivations doesn't sound too bad, but it's always 50:50 with these things

[@opathoris]

The Bourne Legacy is actually a very intelligent film - it documents the effects of Bourne's actions. I disagree with the assessment of Aaron Cross's (Jeremy Renned) back story. He was severely injured, with significant cognitive impairment. In addition to being hunted down and targeted for elimination because of Jason Bourne's actions exposing Treadstone in the first 3 movies, Aaron is also facing a terrifying decline in profound cognitive impairment. The shaky cam from Bourne Supremacy and Ultimatum is largely gone in Legacy which is also welcome.

[@rhettgedies7467]

@@opathoris I agree on everything except the shaky cam point. _Legacy_ does not suffer from losing it, but also doesn't really gain either. The two previous Bourne films are excellent in part because of the cinematography choice (though that does not mean I will validate and praise all the lazy shaky cam action films that came for years after).

[@darkspeed62]

I agree, but they sacked off the espinoage stuff too soon after they arrived in Manila and it became generic action movie.

[@rhettgedies7467]

@@darkspeed62 By the time they reach Manila, the espionage stuff is kind of over naturally though. He's basically finished cutting his dependency on the enhancement drugs/rebooting to full strength and the next step of their plan is to disappear permanently. They are almost out of the government's grasp besides that final wet team and enhanced assassin which leads to the third act chase. There isn't really any technical stuff left to do. Rachel Weisz's character knows the truth of them "putting down" the entire operation and its agents (I don't expect every Bourne movie to end with crippling the government, sometimes it's just getting out alive) due to Jason's actions. They are simply getting ready to "ghost" while Bourne's fallout is still being dealt with by Langley back home. End of plot.

[@lundylow]

I had absolutely no clue there was a Treadstone TV show, and I think it's hilarious someone thought that was a good idea.

[@rederik99]

I watched it not knowing it was supposed to be more than 10 episodes. It's better than it sounds, but I guess I was assuming there would be more story eventually. I don't think I would recommend it now.

[@jacktorborg9862]

It was gripping and interesting and I thought it was super good - but only because you could tell there was more coming. It’s depressing to think they canceled it, they don’t uncover a whole lot of the story by the end of the 10 episodes. The actors and actresses are fantastic.

[@lundylow]

@@jacktorborg9862 At the end of the day though, like what was said in the video, what made the Bourne movies interesting was the character of Jason Bourne. I don't care about a movie about what MI6 was up to while James Bond wasn't around.

[@NhatLinhNguyen82]

It was actually good in my opinion. Started to get into it then it got cancelled

[@eddielong8663]

This franchise has had a similar trajectory to the Terminator franchise. It's a great story of 3 movies (Terminator being just 2 movies) but there's only so much that can be added to the story before it can't get anymore interesting.

[@jelyfisher]

The original Bourne trilogy will always be some of my favorite movies ever. It was a contained story, and there's nothing wrong with that. I hate when studios try to force a franchise by forcing a story when it's already complete and satisfying as it is.

[@robdon3472]

A "why ____ didn't die" series on properties that have endured the test of time would be cool. James Bond, Harry Potter etc

[@akoszahorsky1071]

We sure HP isn't dead? *Looks at cursed child the legendary beasts series*

[@prathapkutty7407]

@@akoszahorsky1071 plus we are getting a spin-off series on hbo max

[@fort809]

Harry Potter died a gruesome death, what do you mean

[@jpr7601]

@@fort809 Aren't they making an MMO or something?

[@sandrorass890]

Only a Huffle Puff would ask such a nerd question.

[@danandtab7463]

Some things don't need to be a "franchise". Terminator needed to stop at two movies. Bourne should've stopped at three. Predator just needed to be one. Don't get me started on Alien.

[@Daniel08353]

Let’s see what we get with Top Gun

[@gracefool]

Most people love Aliens

[@danandtab7463]

@@gracefool oh yes, but do most love Alien 3? :-D

[@gpat64]

Exactly !

[@ficheye00]

I totally agree.

[@solomonpehrson5124]

Man, you’re making me wanna watch Jason Bourne again! This is my dad’s favorite movie trilogy and I remember how awesome it was when we first watched it together.

[@dominiquepowell3158]

Even my dad too and man he never gets tired of them!

[@Chronos5618]

The Bourne trilogy hold a very special place in my heart. Growing up, they were far and away my favourite films, and I have many fond memories of watching them with my dad. I have never even considered watching anything after Ultimatium because those first three were a complete package, and I just don't feel that I need anything more.

[@sr.little2128]

I'm gonna tell how the technical parts of those movies: The Bourne Legacy it's dog shit, with a bad write and bad direct from Tony Gilroy, if the movie hasn't the name Bourne in the title, would been more watchable, has a bad editing, only with 2 parts cool, the fight in Marta's house and the Alaska Act. Jason Bourne: a mediocre script but a good direction from Paul Greengrass, the one who directed Supremacy and Ultimatum, the most ambitious action scenes, he has fun, it's not intelligent or whatever, but watch this movie like a another conventional action-movie that you won't care.

[@danielmashanic5738]

While I think the first two Bourne’s are great, I think the third Ultimatum is honestly one of the best action movies of all time and really just one of my favorite movies of any genre. Unique, heart pounding, and it stills holds up today. I really wish it was 3 movies and then it was over. Legacy I really don’t have much to say about. And while I “like” Jason Bourne, it’s not a movie I care to rewatch often which is so disappointing to say. But those first three, especially Ultimatum, will always be movies I love. And yeah I had no idea Treadstone came and went, I heard it was announced years ago and didn’t hear a word since.

[@spewter]

Glad someone else sees Liman’s merit. I don’t think the shakycam is as important as people say. It’s striking but to my mind the Bourne film’s most valuable trait is the grounded but skilful fight scenes. Liman established that and Greengrass built on it. And Tom Cruise has borrowed it for the Mission Impossible films. The heroes get wounded and limp. That was the truly revolutionary contribution to mainstream action cinema.

[@weirdofromhalo]

Uh, no, Jackie Chan was already doing that in the early 80s, and his movies produced for the US were hits in the 90s.

[@darquark1239]

I can never tell wtf is going on in Bourne movie fight scenes, so many cuts on shaky footage

[@i.m.demarco2324]

@Meta Man i agree, it rounded off, that regardless, Bourne was never to be messed with, and he got to walk away.... Thankfully no one else could match the character Damon created and there werent any more sequels...

[@retlwiz]

Agree that Liman's first film deserves more recognition and I actually prefer it to the others. It has more humour as well, with the car chase in the mini ending up sparked neatly in an underground car park. The love interest relationship was also affecting and it was a shame she was bumped off early in the next one.

[@benwasserman8223]

Bourne might be the one franchise where people need to be rescued from Matt Damon, rather than the other way around.

[@Inframan-6767]

Matt Damon is a Hypocritical, Woke Idiot who espouses Environmentalism, But travels everywhere in a Private Jet.

[@DylanDalal]

@@Inframan-6767 Nice

[@Vandyno]

@@Inframan-6767 He's a pretty good actor though.

[@Poopookachew1]

@@Inframan-6767 He's still living out his role as super genius Will asking everybody how they like them apples. They're just fine Matt, apples are just fine. Most of us don't need to live out a scripted power fantasy to know where we stand on most things.

[@klyanadkmorr]

It WAS RESCUED by dying and ending from twats who want things to continue forever

[@Swordsman1425]

I never could put my finger on why I never got grabbed by all the Bourne things post-Ultimatum. But you put it perfectly... Jason Bourne's battle with his amnesia and who he used to be made those first three work. I actually watched the rest of the show Treadstone and honestly it just lacked that spark. It was like a concert with all the best lighting, the best pyrotechnics, the best stage, and the best sound equipment, but in service to a band that is just desperately trying to recapture the glory days after its most visible and most talented frontman left. Bourne lost its great central thing of Bourne dealing with his amnesia and his former employers trying to get him after Ultimatum, and with Treadstone they're trying to get their own Agents of SHIELD, and clearly that didn't work.

[@LaLloronaVT]

Remember the car chase in Bourne 5? My family and I were watching the movie and when that scene happened we all looked at each other with disappointment, no other movie has ever made me bored during a car chase, then or now, if a car chase can bore the audience then you know you’re not doing a good job

[@alfredvickers4054]

I don't even remember a car chase. So I guess it was boring.

[@DP12321]

Sounds like you need a palette cleanser with Bullitt.

[@prathapkutty7407]

Sad part is that was the only exciting part of the movie. The rest was a slow bore fest.

[@Mysterey101]

Always a pleasure, Captain. I didn't even know there was a Jason Bourne movie in 2016. Your retrospective series is always a fun trip down the nostalgic memory lane of the films in my late childhoon and burgeoning tween-dom

[@marcavonevans]

Great assessment of the Bourne Franchise. Thank you for this. And, may I add that your transition to your sponsor was so seamless and compelling that it took me a minute (almost literally) to realize that it was the commercial within the video. Excellent!

[@GenerationWest]

I didn't watch all the Bourne films until Legacy came out and haven't rewatched them a bit, so looking at these clips, I forgot how jarring the action was, then i'm reminded of Green Zone, WOOF, I had a headache watching that. That said, sucks Bourne doesn't even have more games either, the ideas are actually great in it... NEVER knew that there was a show, and I knew about a Taken TV series! (I forgot that most of the stars in Bourne, plus XXX are now MCU Alunumni. Both Damon and Diesel are in Thor Love and Thunder, Karl Urban in Ragnarok, Tommy Lee Jones, and of course Renner, Wiez and Isaac. Man, It's been awhile !)

[@UmbrellaGent]

The Bourne Conspiracy game was a very fun 3rd person shooter. I remember enjoying it greatly on Xbox 360. I really miss playing it.

[@LaserBeem]

hmmm

[@Lazrael32]

to be fair pretty much everyone has been in an mcu project at this point. it's not really impressive anymore.

[@darthXreven]

@@Lazrael32 well the MCU bubble is about to pop, they just pushed Black Widow back again so who knows what's going on there...but if you pay attention nothing in phase 4 is gonna be worth seeing, everything is going woke, they're gonna pull a ANAD in the movies, argue with me but don't say i never warned you prepare for M SHE U

[@LaserBeem]

@@darthXreven Yeah

[@martinolsen660]

Bourne Surpremacy is the gold standard for action movies to me. A true 10/10 masterpiece.

[@eziospaghettiauditore8369]

That's the second one right?

[@martinolsen660]

@@eziospaghettiauditore8369 Yes it is. Your username is amazing dude.

[@martinolsen660]

@@brennelson9692 Surpremacy is the 2nd one and I think you should watch the 1st one first (Bourne Identity) it's got a pretty tame ending, but it is a great movie as well.

[@kevinandre6654]

I still think Legacy is a solid action movie. The whole medication angle kept me engaged and the Oscar Issac scene felt tense and original. I was certain they would have orders to kill each other. If someone who didn’t watch the trilogy watched Legacy, I expect that they would enjoy it. As aJason Bourne movie, I kind of think the studio just wanted to cash in on Hawkeye.

[@thomasraywood679]

Excellent analysis. Renner did a great job. This is real untapped potential. The one weakness in that storyline is the fact that he didn't collect up the blue and green snow though. Well, that and the convenient satellite feed to Weisz's remote location. These films almost always overdo that.

[@akleperp]

I didn't catch it til the 2nd time watching Legacy but Renner talks about how (really) stupid he was before taking the meds and how much the accelerated brain made to him. It made the movie much more interesting and explains why he's so upbeat throughout given his predicaments and line of work. Also good motivation for him but ultimately it just wasn't talked about long or deep enough to make an impresion.

[@imanoldurango8213]

I too really liked Legacy. I think maybe people are put off by it because it takes a while before the action starts. The beginning can be kind of boring and confusing if you didn’t watch the original Bourne movies but once Renner meets up with the doctor it never really slows down

[@thomasraywood679]

@@imanoldurango8213 Its main shortcoming is that in no way can it be seen to tie into the rest of the Borne saga. Neither early nor late is there any indication Jason ever underwent these drug therapies. The only indication of it is the fact that his name was carved into the bunk in that cabin. That's very thin, and they never built on it in even the slightest way.

[@thomasraywood679]

I do agree with the satellite feed complaint, which drove me crazy in real time. I was like, you're kidding right? And yes, that whole "available feed" thing is way overdone, even in the more comprehensible Bourne movies, but especially in other intrigue flicks of lower quality. At first I too was bothered by Renner's failure to scrape up the blue and green snow. At that stage in the movie, of course, we had no way of knowing why it was so important to him. But you could definitely infer that it was of real importance to him, which made "giving up on it so easily" seem out of place. So did even the fact that it was melted, seeing as all we'd seen of it so far was pills. Then once you learn what the blue and green actually represent, the whole thing makes even LESS sense. The agents get the pills from a lab tech, and take them on a schedule. So it makes no sense why the pills OR their related chemicals would be being air lifted to OR from a remote cabin. The whole thing is just a soupy mess. Perhaps someone could piece it all together with some elaborate explanation, but if that's what it takes to "get it" you've lost a huge swath of your audience along the way. I just think they underestimated people's intelligence. I also think they were operating with a low amount of respect for the actual legacy of the series. That's irony for you.

[@siluor]

The reason why the first one is my favorite is because of the simple storyline + lot of Matt Damon screentime, with each movie things got more complicated and Matt Damon had less and less screen time

[@TekkLuthor]

Jason Bourne was the real reason films became gritty, not Batman Begins

[@HOTD108_]

What are you trying to say? "Films needed to be gritty"? Do you mean all films? Because that's just untrue.

[@TekkLuthor]

@@HOTD108_ I clarified it. Everyone credits Batman Begins as the movie that made every movie grittier but it was really the Bourne movies

[@damonlam9145]

@@TekkLuthor I pretty sure Batman Begins was credit for saving the Batman series.

[@TekkLuthor]

@@damonlam9145 it is also credited for bringing in Nolan style cinema. Blade is another under rated movie

[@BrettJones27]

I get what you are saying here. Batman Begins was darker and grittier, but not 'mainstream' enough to influence beyond much beyond the superhero genre, whereas Bourne Identity showed that the over-the-top action days of the late 80s and 90s (with Schwarzenegger, Stallone, Van Damm, et al) could be down and dirty and done 'realistically' and Bourne could be said to have directly influenced Bond, and many other more-mainstream action movies going forward.

[@enola1281]

The real legacy of bourne are all the friends we made along the way

[@bobbyshewan4229]

Lmao yeah

[@lundylow]

Please let this meme die, I am so sick of it.

[@ronnierockit4468]

I saw Green Zone in the theater, and it legitimately gave one of the people I went with motion sickness.

[@lordcavalier9688]

I actually enjoyed the green zone. Besides the shaky cam that first house raid is a stand out to me.

[@markusbrauns4274]

Not a fan of the camera work, but shows how corrupt the american government is and how they lie, even to their own military.

[@carlosrsolrac]

Dang it I love your videos Captain Midnight! keep em coming!

[@MisterSweetProductions]

The real legacy of Bourne, was the friends we made along the way

[@TheLatiosnlatias02]

Nicky will always be remembered

[@randomcharacter6501]

The Jason Bourne franchise wasn't killed, IT WAS MURDERED

[@fcsuper]

Ultimately, Treadstone got its revenge.

[@snusemcgoose1001]

Who started that term again it’s familiar but I can’t remember where from

[@randomcharacter6501]

@@snusemcgoose1001 It came from some gaming youtuber. He'd always have click bait titles like this but I can't remember his name either lol.

[@mostactivechannel2951]

@@snusemcgoose1001 Cleanprincegaming

[@snusemcgoose1001]

@@mostactivechannel2951 Lol oh yeaah, thank you, I totally forgot about that guy

[@SuperMurray2009]

The First 3 are amazing. Even though Shaky Cam did not age well with me at all. It's too damn distracting. Which is why Identity will always be my favorite. Jason Bourne is a fucking headache to watch!

[@samueljeshurunlamechp9894]

You do know that bourne ultimatum got an oscar for best editing beacause of the shaky cams, right? People thought it was a new trend and it was amazing a that time...

[@SuperMurray2009]

@@samueljeshurunlamechp9894 Yeah like I said. It didn't age well

[@kevinrohman1464]

Gotta say Cap, wasn't expecting this one, but it's pretty great. Never thought about what happened to Bourne before (loved the movies back in the day), but as soon as I saw the thumbnail I had to know

[@waltermanson999]

You're amazing !

[@AmbientEngines]

There didn't need to be a slow death for Bourne. They had three great films and that should have been it.

[@BooDamnHoo]

It made lots of money. No way they could just let that lay fallow.

[@isaacwilcox3010]

“Jesus Christ it’s Jason Bourne.” This meme is the only thing I know about Jason Bourne. Never heard of him otherwise.

[@michiganjack1337]

I blame it for the decades worth of shaky camera fight scenes. I’m still dizzy from it all 😵😅 All kidding aside the first movie is still my favorite

[@tcaudiobooks737]

It was like the cameraman had an epileptic fit and a furious wank when any action happened. Awful!

[@samueljeshurunlamechp9894]

You do know that The Bourne Ultimatum got an oscar for best editing beacause of the shaky cams, right? People thought it was a new trend and it was amazing a that time...

[@michiganjack1337]

​@@samueljeshurunlamechp9894 I remember seeing it in the theater, and thinking, "Wow that was kind of neat" and rather dizzying. Smash cut to 20 years later and it's all you see (or don't because it's just a blurry mess). It wasn't a trend yet because it started the trend. Even so what's your point? It got a Oscar because it was trendy? Great. So what. People liked the action and that it was American James Bond without all the pomp and circumstance. I'm not going to sit here and deny it's influence, All I was ever saying was that the shaky cam, excessive multi-cut is nauseating. I've had plenty of Award Winning beers that taste like piss, is basically my point.

[@samueljeshurunlamechp9894]

@@michiganjack1337 I'm not saying it won the oscar because it was a trend starter...it won the oscar because people were amazed by it...and so was the academy.

[@5Ci0N]

I liked Bourne Legacy just as much as the other Bourne movies. It ranks number 4 out of 5 for me. It was a decent side story.

[@mtechcom4863]

It's a really good and solid movie, nothing to complain about. I don't understand the hate.

[@MarkHicks326]

@@mtechcom4863 It's a far cry from any of the original 3.

[@bobbyshewan4229]

Crazy how it’s been almost 5 years since the last Bourne movie. Miss this series

[@TekkLuthor]

The last Bourne felt like a parody of all previous movies

[@markusbrauns4274]

Seinfeld was a great show. After it ended the studios thought that each of the character's, could go an do their own sitcoms. Bad idea, didn't work.

[@patrickcox8990]

when half the appeal of your genre is action scenes it helps to actually see the fighting...

[@bffmegan]

super cool *brand new* end screen!

[@SR-ob3wn]

First one is the only one I ever bother to rewatch, it’s a really great piece of action filmmaking and I vastly prefer Limon’s style to Greengrass. The other key component that the others are missing is the character of Marie. She adds humanity and stakes. Killing her off was really a disservice to the series. Without Marie, Bourne is basically just a dead eyed, robotic, unstoppable killer.

[@barney_potts_art]

100% Marie brought so much to the story and killing her off like that felt like a plot device to drive the vengeance story of the later films. Thankfully The Bourne Identity stands up on its own as a one off thriller, rather than just the first part of a series. Still one of my fave films

[@Victor-xs7gf]

I absolutely love the Jason Bourne Trilogy. I've watched the movies so many times and will continue to do so without getting tired of them. I even have the Trilogy box set that looks like the security safe thing he pulls out from the bank in Zurich in the first movie. So cool.

[@cindytran5628]

I have that too! It includes Jason Bourne’s passport. I still really love this trilogy til this day and never get tired of it. Maybe cuz Matt Damon is my favorite actor 😊

[@Victor-xs7gf]

@cindytran5628 it's easily one of the coolest things I own, lol. And yeah, Matt Damon is a fantastic actor. I love his movies.

[@nongienong6900]

Greengrass killed it with his excessive handheld camera work. I felt dizzy watching his movies.

[@josephnoneofyourbeeswax8517]

Excellent analysis.

[@IN-tm8mw]

i can not tell you how many times my family rewatched this movie series. Being a BIG METAL GEAR fan, the Bourne series gave me that technical espionage i was craving for.

[@dna8269]

Do you know of any other movies along those lines? I always come back and watch the Bourne movies because they hit that espionage spot perfectly. So hard to find anything similar :(

[@crodo123]

Bourne Legacy is actually amazing. I rewatched the whole franchise recently and I remember being blown away by legacy even though I had seen it in the theater when It came out and being unimpressed. The second time I really loved it.

[@imanoldurango8213]

Legacy is the only Bourne movie I enjoyed! It was so good and not nearly as boring as the ones where bourne is the main character

[@Chrono_Mitsurugi]

@@imanoldurango8213 LOL Nice troll.

[@imanoldurango8213]

@@Chrono_Mitsurugi not a troll lmao just an unpopular opinion I guess? Idk I wanted to see more off Aaron cross’s story. Jason bournes backstory was boring af

[@bardanmalla193]

@@imanoldurango8213 more like questionable opinion.

[@ElectricGorilla85]

That Mini car chase was great. One of my faves!

[@goldenlightpictures6223]

Funny this is actually my first time I’ve heard of tread stone! 😆 And I remember watching the first Bourne movie I really gotta check out the rest!;)

[@meapsikai]

Views: 2 Likes: 13 Comments: 5 Logic: None Hotel?: Trivago

[@Tychoxi]

For everything else, there's mastercard

[@jeffreyroedel9804]

Really thought a next (and final) Bourne movie should have Damon back of course to battle with Vikander, but include Renner as well in a supporting role to tie in and bring a conclusion to the 6-film series.

[@TheGmdMaster]

die another day is a truly fascinating movie. It starts off dark and gritty bond is tortured and his own country leaves him to rot. Then he is released and its a different film. Every single line is a pun, every character is named so they can be a pun, mr kill, jynx, frost etc. The villain's plan is to cross minefield using a giant space laser, because hovercrafts didnt work once. It's a hilarious masterpiece of how not to write dialogue. its actually enjoyable in how bad it is written, not a single character can converse without making a pun. it defo makes the list of films so bad they are good. but how anyone making this film thought it wasnt going to nearly kill a 40 year old franchise is a marvel. But at least we got some bourne to make up the gap.

[@Inframan-6767]

Am I a bit out of line if I say I'm actually glad Judy Dench's M got killed in Skyfall?

[@ZatoichiBattousai]

Even though the first Fast and Furious came out a year before XXX, F&F became the dominant franchise that reflected the XXX motiph.

[@Darkwintre]

I remember the movie didn't know about a tv series.

[@JM-zu2pd]

The first three were really all that were needed The fourth one was a little weird and the fifth one was good not that not great but good

[@xxHELLCAT32xxx]

This was an interesting watch, as your videos almost always are, and it made me think of a series of movies I've recently rewatched. And I think they might be among my favorite "spy" movies, just because they aren't really spy movies at all. The loosely connected films based on the works of Tom Clancy. Hunt for Red October, Patriot Games, Clear and Present Danger, and Sum of All Fears. While the films vary in quality, they all have this fantastic tension that takes seemingly mundane setups that manage to put you on the edge of your seat. I personally haven't watched the Amazon series based on Jack Ryan and the upcoming one about John Clark and I'm not sure I want to. I don't want them to be explosive action packed boondogles like Bourne or Bond films, I want them to maintain that grounded take on the intelligence business. No matter what those Amazon series are like, I still think it's cool that these characters are going strong even with the passing of Tom Clancy.

[@jamie.nolanofficial]

So This Is What It Feels Like To Be Early...

[@a.k.7840]

I remember being so excited to see The Bourne Supremacy in the theater. I still love the first one. I'm a person who enjoys fight choreography, but Paul Greengrass's new shaky camera not only made it impossible for me to really enjoy the fight sequences, it made me dizzy. I hate him for doing that to my beloved Bourne series of movies, although I get that why he did it how it had a major impact on the action movie genre.

[@ahopefor]

Too much shaky cam I would think, that way of shooting action was only popular during the 2000's.

[@Mr-mopar]

The one with Aron cross was my favorite..loved how it was going on during the Jason timeline...

[@zegrasisinnocent]

Lol you gave me memories of playing that Bourne Identity game from the trailer that flashed in the vid.

[@Wildopal]

I’ve never seen a Bourne film. I just like these videos 🙏🏾

[@jeraldmcclainofficial6005]

Watch the first one from 2002.

[@ClockworkTheif]

I felt the same about the first episode of Treadstone, but it ended up having a fairly good story and set up some nice new things. Felt it at least tried to capture the amnesia aspect of the first movie, while making it more modern and worldly.

[@trevorjensen2706]

As someone who is applying for a Masters in Film Scoring, I appreciate you even mentioning the scores to the franchise. Thank you, sir.

[@mr.bondnews4505]

Great video!!! I recommend you to talk about the James Bond franchise (especially the Daniel Craig Era)

[@johnsharp7160]

I've always insisted that Jason Bourne was the best thing to happen to James Bond.

[@quikgold513]

A Long Kiss Goodnight is the first original attempt of the Bourne book and its just as amazing

[@jerinjoseph596]

I just saw it and it was just allright

[@quikgold513]

@@jerinjoseph596 hey to each his own

[@ninjanibba4259]

I love that movie

[@danvickers2170]

That's a great movie.

[@arytaco5380]

Really loving these death videos. You should make one about Transformers

[@user-fn8tq2wg2e]

Before this video, I literally had no idea there was more than three movies.

[@MauroPennafort]

When I watched Casino Royale, Bourne's influence was so obvious and positive for the character that he resurrected Bond who was taking down villains with the blink of an eye and turned him into a believable agent again.

[@darkspeed62]

Legacy was a good standalone film, save for the final act where they ditch the espionage/surveillance/tracking stuff for generic action movie scenes for the sake of having an over-the-top action movie ending. Before that, it was a compelling cat and mouse story, with bits cut in about Aaron Cross' past. It's literally so enjoyable and compelling right until they arrive at Manila and viral him off and then get into a chase.

[@brianli7124]

The “Jason Bourne” movie and “A good day to die hard” are the different sides of the same coin. They try to repeat things rather than let the characters evolve. I’d love to have Matt Damon play a Jason Bourne that’s washed and struggles with age while mentoring a new person

[@Christ2010Grad]

Now, THAT would have been interesting. And it would have been the only route to venture in from the trilogy.

[@jediknightjairinaiki560]

I've never had a problem with the shaky camera work in the Bourne movies. It's nothing compared to the BS camera work in "Cloverfield". 🤢🤮

[@unchainedfilms1328]

My head hurts looking at the shaky cam in this movie

[@peterfrank3365]

When compared to the 'James Bond' or 'Mission: Inpossible', I feel like the 'Bourne' franchise was never supposed to extend over the the original trilogy. A big part of the plot is Bourne's past and with all the mystery uncovered, there really isn't much of a reason to continue; unlike Bond or Ethan Hunt who keeps on getting new adventures or missions.

[@kanojo1969]

So, once the initial amnesia hook is gone, the films don't have much to keep us interested. I tend to agree, but I wonder if the bourne novels had the same problem. I only picked them up at airports but I read and enjoyed them all. I was a lot younger though, and wasn't thinking about them critically. But if the bourne novels kept being good after the amnesia hook was lost, the movies could have been, too. I think the real answer is they just weren't as good.

[@charlesdoyle3630]

Problem is they altered greatly from the films. Basic premise of them was there but that was about it

[@officialniktheking6891]

Amazing 3 films that make you wanna come back and rewatch again and again

[@liampickering1791]

Love the videos. Would love to know your take on Wandavisions finale

[@Theonetruewonderfly]

It ended because the Bush Administration ended and Hollywood (temporarly) didn't have anyone to rage against. That's also why the TV series "24" also faded away and ended by 2010.

[@Poopookachew1]

Well they can always dig up the bones of McCarthy when they need to get their Two Minute Hate on. _"Look at how persecuted _*_WE_*_ were by having to publicly confirm what we already pledged allegiance and material aid to."_ Nevermind what the Venona Papers confirmed years later, or how Hollywood is behaving now.

[@allancolorado2080]

@Meta Man I agree with you HARD.

[@patrickcasey3618]

Renner Bourne spin off didn’t work because Matt Damon has this smart and dangerous . Renner doesn’t have that at all

[@mala6238]

Yeah. Damon ist clearly the better actor.

[@kencarson666]

he ain’t that good yet

[@peterprovenzano9039]

Renner Borne was a lot more realistic of a plot than the first three, though the first three where good

[@fcsuper]

@@peterprovenzano9039 It only seems realistic if you aren't familiar with how pharmas, laboratories and DNA actually work. The DNA stuff in the movie (e.g., "viral-out") was a tough pill to swallow, pun intended.

[@peterprovenzano9039]

@@fcsuper lol, fair enough. I have a military background not a science one

[@simbriant]

An advantage the first Bourne movie has is that it was based off an awesome novel of the same name by Robert Ludlum. The other Bourne movies and novels, even though they share the same titles, go in completely different directions after the first novel/movie.

[@Nocturne2]

I agree with your entire take. Great video. Also, Greengrass did WAAAAY overdo the shaky cam. I think if he reduced it by about half would have been more timeless.

[@jediknightjairinaiki560]

I saw a few episodes of "Treadstone". I thought they were great.

[@aldenburboilage9244]

Tbh a big reason that it failed is because the action wasnt that great: its all shaky cam and no one can tell wtf is going on: nowadays hollywood has caught up to hong kong action with John Wick and the MI series by filming real action clearly

[@NeverNude]

Thank you! Everyone's calling the trilogy amazing, and I remembered watching the first one thinking it was a masterpiece, then in all the sequels, the fight scenes are a mess. You legit can't tell what's going on. And what's frustrating is that it's a crutch for Greengrass, he ONLY uses shaky cam. There are many scenes that would benefit from being steady cam (while in the CIA offices for instance), but nope, every fucking shot of every fucking film by Greengrass is shaky. He's a hack who ruined the hard work of everyone involved in the series.

[@Inframan-6767]

Hate Shaky Cam-It looks like a movie shot by an Alcoholic Cameraman with DT's.

[@ojodeoro1106]

I remember having Bourne "#3" in my house and being told by my parents that I couldn't watch it. It was one of the few forbidden disks and the name has really stuck in my memory

[@mjshades05]

Thank you for this video! It has finally given me an understanding as to why I only liked the first Bourne movie :)

[@jacktorborg9862]

You didn’t see treadstone!? Give it a shot - it’s really really good! It has the same dynamic borne had of characters learning more about the system they are sort of trapped in and remembering details about their past. It’s gripping

[@CinemaGulp]

The Bourne Identity is by far my favorite of the franchise. I agree with you. I actually really enjoy the second and like the third a lot as well. Legacy started off so strong, but had no real climax. Jason Bourne sucks. Great video sir.

[@mcurran6505]

Could you do a video on 007?

[@TheLanorth]

I just bought a very nice 4k collection box with all 5 movies, telling and showing all my friends!

[@apoked]

Bourne Legacy is far better than the last Jason Bourne

[@rojester7576]

Am i the only one who doesn't know this franchise? I am not a guy who watchs films alot. I watch one every 1 or 2 months. But i like this kind of videos :)

[@efancording6363]

Dude you have to watch them, the first trilogy at least. Some of the best action films of the century hands down

[@rojester7576]

@@efancording6363 ok when i find some free time hopefully i will :D

[@willihen]

Great take on the franchise👍

[@magdalenehagey4079]

I saw Jason Bourne in theaters, and we got there late so we had to sit in the front row. I couldn't watch the movie most of the time, it made me so motion sick. I eventually fell asleep because I had my head down in the dark. Afterwards it didn't sound like I missed much, lol.