CAR NINJA! Worn Out S62 Needs HELP

A high milage 2000 BMW M5 comes in to the shop with a worn out S62 engine. Can it be saved? Car Ninja is on it.

[@M539Restorations]

Hey, Johnny. No need to pull the heads to replace the guides. Can be also done in situ without dropping the engine. Hope this helps, love your work!

[@Nathan_Johnson7723]

But Streten engine out brings the big bucks. I kid of course Johnny’s work and attention to detail is always on point.

[@violinmiata]

Streten and Johnny need their own show where they drink beer and talk BMW things

[@BimmerBoy20]

Also I believe no need for special timing tools. 4 M8 bolts can be used to hold the cams in place instead of the pins.

[@trizzuth34]

I love when E39 M5 lovers unite on youtube to post up the knowledge. While this job is possible without the engine out, my god it must be exponentially more enjoyable with it out, on a stand, staring you in the face. Love the comments here about that it was 99.9% sure it was lack of proper oil interval changes. Is it worth the cost in the end??? nope

[@IkeVMAX4]

I was just about to tag you Streten here. Remembering your M5 service on tour channel.

[@andrewg2322]

7:57 every bmw spark plugs 😂

[@johnds6621]

Boy it's been awhile since your last video. Johnny you need to do more of them they are so interesting.

[@nexusyang4832]

i know, right?!?!?! Car Ninja should do more filming of videos. May we can get Mrs. Wizard to come shoot videos? :D

[@miceinoz1181]

I was getting Ninja withdrawal symptoms since the last video. Now I am OK for a week or so more....Thanks Jonnie, I luv ya work!

[@francispowell1811]

Johnny, it's simple enough to build a gasket for the gap between the upper and lower timing chain covers that will extend beyond the head gasket. The same situation occurs when building the hybrid M60b44 engine, that is, using the M62b44 bottom end with M60b40 heads. The forward section of the M60 head gasket is used to fill the gap between the upper and lower timing covers. Please strongly consider saving yourself the hassle of opening the engine!!!

[@markkrispin6944]

Hey Jonny, that was cruel what you did to your wife, yet I laughed so hard!

[@hokie9910]

Ah yes, now I remember why I switched to Lexus 22 years ago.

[@Rock-Bottem1982]

All your doing is buying a Toyota with lipstick, what's your point?

[@pkt1213]

If you dive old German cars, it is essential to have a few so you hopefully have something that is drivable.

[@French20cent]

Can't wait to see this engine sorted out, nice to see these E39s still being driven

[@PatrickJago]

And the customer will still probably not do the oil changes on time. But hey…. It keeps you busy and keeps the lights on !

[@kerrylewis2581]

I've been waiting patiently for a new Car Ninja video. I'm not saying it was two broken ribs painful, but it was tough. Glad to see you back at it.

[@ep-ou7sc]

This all looks so expensive lol.

[@sparky4878]

A welcome return, seems to have been a while since the last video.

[@DonPablo2011]

Those were some brittle rubber hoses!

[@sparky4878]

Never good when the rubber crunches.

[@theyunglos]

literally i thought " Those things are crusty!!"

[@johncoss5604]

Looking forward to the rest of the repair. Hope it’s sooner than later.

[@23tlujan23]

Jonny! First, always remember, happy wife, happy life. 😀 I'm sure she was really mad. Secondly, I love your attention to detail in taking time to evaluate every part on the engine. Keep up the great work! Love the videos! Can't wait to hear this one run again.

[@nexusyang4832]

that's why he ran, LOL!!!!!

[@teutone5866]

A good number of L.A. area shops use Taiwan made BMW & Mercedes etc timing tools from Kinetik Tools Inc, City of Industry (CA). Another source for German car specialty tools is Baum Tools, Sarasota FLA. Both should be worth a try. Best of luck.

[@Mortalomena]

Change oil and use good full synthetic, its no point following the 10k or 15k change interval if your cheap oil can only handle 5k miles. And if the interval is 15k or more, just take it in at 10k and save headache later. 15k is too long.

[@21Piloteer]

10K is too long.

[@skillz1855]

Johnny is one of the rear Techs that makes bmw complicated repairs look easy

[@RandySmith-iz1ml]

Missed you Johnny, why is it taking so long between videos? Keep up the great work.

[@Laith_E46]

WE WANT MORE VIDEOS!

[@markwarren7959]

So remember kids.............It's the ultimate driving machine!

[@whoquadrophenia]

For the timing tools for the s62 you can use m8 bolts, there is a 8mm hole in the cam you can use to lock them. Essentially that's what the bmw tools are

[@agrippa1234]

Your usually classy, professional presentation

[@billystpaul8907]

Glad you' are back from I am guessing a well deserved vacation. The reason I truly enjoy your channel is that unlike your crosstown rival, you do actual work on cars where as the Wizard just talks about it. BMW should use you a consultant on how to make their motors eaiser to work on...Another nice video today,,

[@sgttombailes3380]

Car Ninja, I am so lucky to have a personal BMW and Porsche mechanic like yourself ! He has been taking care of my cars for years now. As I have been driving Porsches and BMW for quite a while. Like you with your customers, I won't let anybody touch my cars but Rich Dean,. If you get a chance to reach out to Rich please do so. He is as honest and his integrity is foremost just as you portray with your integrity ! . I appreciate you honest guys!!! Contact Rich Dean ~~ Classic Design in Athens, Georgia.. Just like you Sir, One heck of a guy !! Again, I SO appreciate the honesty and integrity that you and Rich live by. If Rich wasn't in my Town, I would ship my cars to you .. HooAh?

[@R_J_G]

If you’re not injured, you’re not racing!

[@alanerese7799]

6mm pins to lock the cams into place and the use of 300 TDC pin. Should be enough to set the timing. Similar to S54. Did one just last month.

[@br549rdr]

Yeah we’ve missed you Johnny. Lets get more videos posted. Please 😇

[@superfurball89onyoutube52]

I love how you make your videos car ninja

[@nurburgrinding]

Worth saving Mr Karaj

[@Khaledghaffari]

Welcome back 🎉

[@MrBeefsnorkel]

I've been a dealership tech for a good while, and I've only ever met 1 other mechanic that has not only the talent/skill, but also the passion for fixing a car. You know.....the type of mechanic that will actually take apart an HVAC box just to fix a little flapper door and save someone over a thousand bucks over just recommending an entire new box because its easier. I regret going the dealer route so long ago, wish I had found a shop like this one to cut my teeth in.

[@michaelhawkins5530]

For the S62, there is going to some 'while you are in there' items to replace. $$$

[@andrewg2322]

You and @m539 Restorations need to get together and do a video

[@whoquadrophenia]

Don't need to pull the heads, I agree the idea of reusing the headgaskets portion by the timing cover is cringe. Although unless they are back in stock the head gaskets for the s62 are on back order, so if you slap some 3 bond on the upper and lower timing covers you should be fine.

[@steveng5503]

Hey man… I only requested cabin filter service! 🙄 I’m off now to find follow up video. 👍✌️🇬🇧

[@hallkbrdz]

If you can work on a S62 timing chain, dropping an BKW to find and fix an oil leak should be cake. Future work.

[@lesklower7281]

Another example what lack of maintenance can do to engines l hope the rest of the engines ok

[@jayceasar2661]

car ninja is elite mechanic

[@timessix8434]

Rod bearings changed earlier?

[@herrbrahms]

If it's going to take three weeks to get timing tools from the Vaterland, I'd call up the customer and have a heart to heart about all that 20 year old rubber on the engine. Depending on his time horizon to own this car, he may or may not want you to replace all of it now while it's so accessible. Knowing how brittle all that stuff gets with heat and time, I'd let off a long sigh and say yes.

[@richardthomasmirabito4197]

"You pay peanuts, you get Monkeys ".🙈

[@seandebottis3276]

Killed it!

[@wandy4468]

why is it always due to lack of maintenance. how hard can it be to do oil changes religiously. I'd love to see high mileage M engine in pristine factory built, don't know if there's any.

[@christos881]

If you have to ask how much an oil change is, you obviously can't afford it.

[@houseofno]

Doesn't hurt to ASK. Jonny ISN'T Jiffy Lube and not all engines have the same oil change process. Case in point: A late model Bugatti involves removing NINE bolts from the top of the car's body work and is very labor intensive. Trust me - you're not getting an oil change done on that in anywhere close to thirty minutes. Try HOURS. Just don't expect a Jiffy Lube price if you're hiring a SPECIALIST like Jonny for an oil change. Don't treat a specialist as if he is just a dumb grunt with a wrench and don't waste his time trying to bargain on the price. You can tell from the traffic he is doing in his shop that Jonny clearly isn't that desperate for business.

[@frankp.2831]

Not necessarily.

[@willr69420]

A customer that wants to chisel you on an OIL CHANGE is a cheapskate customer that will never be happy and a customer that you don't want or need.

[@gstevens6948]

@@willr69420 so true…

[@Mortalomena]

@@houseofno Theres more than 9 bolts to remove in a modern Bugatti oil change. More like 90.

[@squid148]

Ben needs to give up his aspirations on being a race car driver 😂

[@nexusyang4832]

Yay!!! New video!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@buttmonkey1698]

Yeah!!

[@Bugholeexcalibur]

Customer has so many cars, and so few oil changes, apparently. How difficult is it to watch your miles to know when to change the oil, and then do it?

[@wineguy2246]

Jonny you mentioned how oil changes could have helped with the timing chain maintinance. I have a relatively low milage 07 Z4M (46k miles). I don't drive it more than a few thousand miles in the summer then its stored. Should I change the oil at the begining of each spring season even if it's not technically required by mileage (or the BMW service indicator)? i have been doing this, BMW calls it a low milage oil change when I've had it done at dealer.

[@mikemata623]

100% yes

[@gradams68]

👍

[@jeffflewelling1703]

Why does Jonny not wear rubber gloves so that his hands don’t get so dirty? I thought that most mechanics now wear them!

[@realcarninja]

Some of us aren't afraid of getting our hands dirty.

[@kylepowell4906]

@@1983dmd we all have to go somehow. Part of being a tech is getting dirty. Chemicals too

[@garrypritchard1658]

Car wizard never gets dirty hands

[@garrypritchard1658]

And this is your favourite engine 😅😅😅😅

[@gs1100ed]

I know mechanics really hate to lend their tools, but seems like you could find a technician who might rent you his set of timing tools? Waiting 3 weeks really sux.

[@rposton919]

Special tools and near complete engine disassembly shouldn't be required to replace a simple timing chain.

[@willr69420]

@@rposton919 not usually, but in this case they are. Just ask WatchJRGo.

[@gs1100ed]

@@rposton919 agree, but it keeps the Ninja and his employees busy!

[@rjnation5042]

When I get asked to lend some tools, my reply is "Will you lend me your wife?", Rj in Oz

[@gs1100ed]

@@rjnation5042 so, if you worked nearby to the car Ninja and he asked to rent him your timing tools, you would say no?

[@wernerdanler2742]

I bet you had to sleep on the couch that night! 😆 🤣

[@marcconyard5024]

Try driving a bus with one broken rib. The best way to agonise your workplace.

[@runner3033]

Every time I read/watch S62 stuff, I thank 'past me' for forgoing the M5 for a 2003 M Sport with the 'lowly' M62. Back then, the rod bearings scared me off, but there's so much more hassle and M-tax. That engine is a hell of a mess though, looks like coal inside. I'm doing 3 year/12k oil changes over the past 12 years on full synthetic, highway miles only, and the inside of the engine has actually been getting cleaner (tiny sludge deposits when I bought the car are washing away) with accompanying super clean Blackstone reports. Millions of M62's made will ensure superior parts availability as well, no farting around hunting for parts/tools for a while yet I hope...

[@francispowell1811]

I'm M62b44NV as well, but I'm on a 5-6000 ml oil change interval to keep the hydraulic timing chain tensioner working properly so as to reduce wear on the guides, the achilles heal of the M62. You're a brave man.

[@user-xq3gv1vi3d]

It not gonna last long with 12k oil changes. Should be like guy mentioned above, 5-6k. But I’m personally on my M5 change it every 2500 miles

[@runner3033]

@@user-xq3gv1vi3d Gosh, yeah, it may only last another 20 years/140,000 miles eh? Did you read my post? Oil analysis is clean with a good TBN at 12k, and is washing away sludge deposits.

[@user-xq3gv1vi3d]

@@runner3033 sure, but I just didn’t get it, why getting S62, or even M62, and being so cheap on the most basic stuff like oil change. Why not just get something like toyota camry. If you drive like average 10-11k a year, every 5-6k is every 6 months, and with 70-80$ for a full synthetic kit with filter, 75$ every 6 months is nothing, comparing to many other repairs/parts for these engines. Maybe that report tells you that it’s ok for engine, but I don’t know a single bmw enthusiast that would go above 6k on the oil changes

[@runner3033]

@@user-xq3gv1vi3d Yeah thanks for the "advice" but are you seriously suggesting to listen to internet lore vs empirical evidence? This is an experiment to prove internet lore wrong, nothing to do with cost (testing costs money). You like to share anecdata? I got anecdata - my last daily driver went 18 years/170k miles on 18 month/7k intervals and was running great with squeaky clean UOAs when I retired it due to rust. OCI is a very poorly understood subject, not helping the matter is manufacturers who want to avoid warranty work, padding the shit out of OCIs and also Dads talking about their 1972 Cutlass. You think Castrol is going to say, "Yeah, you don't need to buy as much of our stuff as you think..."?

[@jrocknbct]

FCPEURO got that s65 Timing Tool in stock!! :)

[@frankp.2831]

These days, “in stock” or 2 day delivery doesn’t seem to mean anything. ALWAYS call to confirm availability.

[@sjbdeebo2]

s62 or s65?

[@francispowell1811]

Might they have the S62 tool as well?

[@tomtheplummer7322]

Make sure you have Class 3/type 3 chargers 🔌 and get a good electrician. No Smart meters nor Saver Switches. 😎🏴‍☠️💪🤫🔌👍🏻🏁👽🖖

[@norrisd.4711]

That S62 engine looks poorly maintained.

[@21Piloteer]

That poor engine has been neglected.

[@Czechbound]

I guess it is always a false economy to skip the oil changes. You'll pay a lot more to fix the resultant problems in the long run

[@randlecycling2462]

It's a me, Mario

[@kkampy4052]

160-170k and needs a complete rebuild? My 2004 crv has 170k and runs like a top. Virtually no oil usage.

[@danielhurley7018]

Ben racing at Worden Park aka Wellington?

[@Godea.A]

so to every one to know,and i do not know.vanos is the system that helps the Crankshaft ,not to lose power,with the camshafts .so simple and yet so complicated.an hydraulic system that ,,bust'' the camshafts. i know for real.and it toke several seconds.i was thinking the vanos was just the timing for the cpu to know.but no.Vanos is the bust for the camshafts,in order for crankshaft not to lose the power on the way.

[@patricwell8335]

I eat those engine fun...using one right now for a monster

[@davidorama6690]

Have BMW, stick to the service schedule!

[@Cartier_specialist]

Beginners luck -- right.

[@jackwood8307]

👍❤️👍

[@tomtheplummer7322]

Get a horse 🤣

[@Beer_Dad1975]

Ah, BMW V8's never disappoint in their crapness. Ah well, paying for Car Ninja's retirement I guess.

[@MrTacoma]

theres a rebuild interval on these engines…. I think its every 100k miles

[@bystander1489]

Nearly all bmw engines are 🤫

[@MrTacoma]

@@bystander1489 “S” motors

[@red95gts]

Absolute nonsense. The guides are common at 150-200k, but there are many S62 with over 200k, 300k, and one out there with over 500k

[@MrTacoma]

@@red95gts worn

[@red95gts]

@@MrTacoma Regardless of your opinion, there is no rebuild interval specified by BMW

[@RealRickCox]

Wait… Ninja can fix almost any BMW ever made but he has to call in someone else to overhaul the lifts?!? 😂

[@steveshoemaker6347]

🇺🇸

[@tnickknight]

Ninja didn't get the friendly deal on the lifts like the car wizard

[@kevinbarry71]

He is not a shill

[@justingustafson7964]

The Ninja went the better route and bought quality American made Rotary lifts used to get his shop up and running at a lower expense. After they are serviced, they will go another 20 years with daily use. The Wizard got cheap Chinese junk Bendpak lifts just like the junk harbor freight tools he buys. Jonny knew what he was doing.

[@oilman930]

@@justingustafson7964 There are still some models of Bendpak lifts manufactured in the US.

[@jimwong2823]

M5 heads need be machine🆘🆘

[@360fanboy360]

how much for an oil change lmao foh

[@Schlipperschlopper]

Sadly soon all combustion cars including classics will be banned from public streets in entire EU and Scandinavia :-( In Germany the Green Peoples Party gave order to shorten fuel supply from 2025 on by reducing all conventional fuel stations to only one state operated central gas station per city or county. Now they want to slow down all the gas station pumps from 20 litre per minute to 2 litre per minute...From 2027 on in the EU certain car spare parts will be banned too....as exhaust systems, turbo chargers and even some engine and gearbox oils...California and New York will do the same from 2027 on.... So no investments should be done in oil burning cars any longer....They even created a new kind of crime here, called emissions and smoke crime (Bundesabgasbespassungsverbotsverordnung)!!!

[@markus-5137]

Greetings from Germany , do you have a link / source for this " Green Peoples Party gave order to shorten fuel supply from 2025 on by reducing all conventional fuel stations to only one state operated central gas station per city or county" ? As far as i know, the only thing they want to "forbid" ist the new registration of Combustion Cars after 2035. So if you´ve a classic car / any combustion car, that ist registered previous 2035, you´re good to go. Just no possibility to register combustion cars after 2035 if they´ve not registered before this date :

[@jeffreycheng5984]

Euro cars. I think I'll pass. These cars are too much money pit for me.

[@pedromatajr8725]

You got to stop working on cars and just manage the shop or your gonna grow gray hair faster lol I would just keep working on cars