Elemental bond is good because it's etb not cast and it doesn't care if the creature is a token
@slifer8672 жыл бұрын
Exactly! In decks that make large tokens like dragon decks or clones, this card can go off. Also see garruks uprising and kiora behemoth beckoner
@monomanamaniac2 жыл бұрын
@@slifer867 it's one of the best draw spells in my Kyler Sigardian Emissary deck because Kyler can easily make any human tokens big enough to trigger elemental bond.
@matthewerickson37342 жыл бұрын
Elemental bond with a Koma on the battlefield is bliss
@HanDaimond2 жыл бұрын
It's criminal to see it on D tier, it's A at best and B at worst. The only drawback I can see is that you don't have a choice when a creature enters, you *must* draw a card; but that's it, it's so easy to put 3 power creatures or 3/3 tokens.
@Secz123412 жыл бұрын
Koma loves this def not d
@Jimmythehead2 жыл бұрын
Cards like Elemental Bond and Kavu Lair are better for Token decks where you can reliably make larger tokens where beast whisperer and guardian project won’t work. Titania and Gruul Omnath come to mind.
@NitpickingNerds2 жыл бұрын
Very fair if you are making bigger tokens
@santaclawsui2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for writing that. I was litteraly screeming at the monitor when this was not mentioned. Also Elemental bond and Guardian project triger on ETB not only casts so for me as a player who plays a lot! off reanimator decks that is a huuuge upside towards beast whisperer.
@charliemarlow6472 жыл бұрын
This, and what santaclawsui said too about Beast Whisperer being a cast trigger. Probably should've been evaluated separately, but also probably sits around the same spot because it has the extra synergy of being a creature itself.
@Buberte2 жыл бұрын
@@NitpickingNerds I just built a Jinnie Fae deck where i create bunch of Power 3 Dog tokens, i will consider Elemental Bond for my next order ;)
@Deathkeeper432 жыл бұрын
@@NitpickingNerds Also way better in Gishath.
@Trisket2 жыл бұрын
>Sign in Blood & Night's Whisper in C >Read the Bones in poop tier I play Read the Bones in non-blue decks that are thousands of dollars, I play it along side Night's Whisper. The ability to see up to 4 deep is well worth one extra colorless, and I'm always happy to see it in my hand and cast it.
@vds922 жыл бұрын
Agree 100%!
@mistysowards73652 жыл бұрын
Their just haters, read the bones is a must have just because of adding scry
@trehenry4132 жыл бұрын
@@mistysowards7365 i dont know about must have, but it is solid. Scry is definitely a nice bonus, but scry 2 is almost a full card and wont always be worth the extra mana for me. Things get a little different if you have cards like Vilis though to take more advantage of the life-loss
@ivorymantis10262 жыл бұрын
I thought they were a little too hard on it too. Foresee is honestly one of my favorite draw cards in U simply for this fact. Also if you love scry, look up "Cryptic Annelid." Thank me later.
@magicsinglezАй бұрын
I thought that, too. Read the bones looks good/OK. There must be a hundred (at least 50) black cards thst draw cards. . . . ‘Draw 5 cards, pay 5 life’. Lots of black cards that draw you cards printed over the decades. . .
@RefaTheGreat2 жыл бұрын
Great list as always, the only things I disagree on are Rhystic Study (definitely better than Jeska's Will and Bolas's Citadel), Archmage Emeritus (should be a tier higher, feels like a double standard to rate it down when you have stuff like Reconnaissance Mission which has the same issue of being a nonX type in your X type deck), and Toski (why are you rating this lower than Reconnaissance Mission when it's a creature in your creature deck, it's at least a net neutral at worst).
@mibbzx14932 жыл бұрын
I actually agree as a spellslinger player, i know Archmage emeritus could go in any blue deck 🤣 hes so good
@EnemyToad2 жыл бұрын
Toski is also an indestructible blocker for one turn which is neat
@davestier62472 жыл бұрын
Rhystic study will always be tier I draw.
@mibbzx14932 жыл бұрын
@@EnemyToad any time i see toski, i make them sacrifice him. He’s annoying as hell
@chefboyardee8512 жыл бұрын
@@mibbzx1493 I know I love archmage emeritus
@allobonjour97612 жыл бұрын
Elemental bound and garruks uprising are best when you make big token imo, which is why I play both in my dragon token deck
@ValatY2 жыл бұрын
I love read the bones Small impact, but quick, healthy carddraw with some sweet scry 2 Early, mid or lategame, I'm always happy to see it
@NitpickingNerds2 жыл бұрын
Never been a fan but it is an awesome card!
@8BitCyberWarrior2 жыл бұрын
turn 5 or 6 i would rather draw read the bones than esper sentinel
@dakodastevens89722 жыл бұрын
While I do quite like read the bones, I pretty much never play it, I prefer both sign in blood and nights whisper. There is also the 3 mana one that draws a card for each color of mana spent to cast it, the name eludes me right now, which is also better, it just feels like there isn't any room in most decks for it.
@nathanielknowles45422 жыл бұрын
@@dakodastevens8972 I believe you’re thinking of painful truths
@abdus-samisiddique92212 жыл бұрын
@@dakodastevens8972 painful truths
@RodrigoCML72 жыл бұрын
Putting Beast Whisperer and Guardian Project as the same card is a bit problematic. The cast vs enter the battlefield matters a lot, I’ve found myself choosing between the two depending on what the deck is trying to do. Besides playing creatures how they get to the battlefield matters, which in my assessment makes guardian project an A while Whisperer remains a B.
@bcdfezz2 жыл бұрын
Beat me to it. ETB is leagues better than On Cast
@MrDeeluv19962 жыл бұрын
Project is better, but I always end up with both anyway
@angelofsolitude79512 жыл бұрын
100% agree, they arent in same league and Project is much better.
@blazetrinity94622 жыл бұрын
I personally think read the bones isn't even that bad. It can help you smooth out your draws in the mid game, sometimes you just need to find your next land drop in time. Sure it might not be the best card draw in the format, but it gets the job done a lot of the time.
@pauldyson80982 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love Harmonize. Lower ceiling than Beast Whisperer and such, but Harmonize is never dead. Unconditional draw, underrated. So too with Read the Bones. They're both examples of cards that tie the deck together (like The Dude's rug). Both are C tier for me, but they end up in a lot of my decks. At the works, they're place-holders in decks that need more on-theme draw options. Harmonize is in Trelassara, for example.
@TeaRanosaur2 жыл бұрын
Yeah this is a massive underrating of Harmonize right here. In a green deck without access to blue or black, harmonize always goes in (ok maybe not sythis buy you get the drift). The reason being that the rest of green card draw is reliant on you having cards in hand. If I spend early game on removal and wipes and end up empty handed on turn 6, this is the card I want, even over Great Henge (which of course is a better card but just run both).
@BobbyBev952 жыл бұрын
Unconditional draw is true, but I feel like it’s one of those situations where 99% of the time there are better options. Like in Trelasarra, if you can gain 2 life then Rishkar’s Expertise and Return of the Wildspeaker both will draw you more cards because of her power. I’ll take the high upside every time
@pauldyson80982 жыл бұрын
@@BobbyBev95 Honestly, I run those as well, in a few decks. It's not either/or for me.
@TeaRanosaur2 жыл бұрын
@@BobbyBev95 Yeah i definitely still run those first, but I also think its worth throwing this into a list as a safety valve
@TeaRanosaur2 жыл бұрын
The only other good, usually unconditional piece I can think of in green is sylvan library but its $50 so...
@stephentrever17692 жыл бұрын
The one aspect of elemental bond that you missed is that it triggers off of token creatures entering battlefield. So in the right deck, it can be better than both Beast Whisperer and Guardian Project. Not sure how much that would change the overall evaluation, but worth noting.
@zackfro2 жыл бұрын
I love this point! It can be so much better!!!
@supernova862 жыл бұрын
Yeah, they missed the mark on many of these cards. /facepalm
@NitpickingNerds2 жыл бұрын
You make a good point but not many tokens are over 3/3 but I would love it in a Jinnie Fay deck.
@zackfro2 жыл бұрын
@@NitpickingNerds or in angry jellybean or Titania which both happen to be elementals. Now that I think about it, ELEMENTAL bond. What a time to be alive.
@nzephier2 жыл бұрын
I have it in my sekkuar and prismatic bridge deck ^//^
@TheTrueFool2 жыл бұрын
I discovered your guys' channel recently and have been binge watching episodes. I used to think think I didn't really like Commander, but I've learned a lot about how to evaluate cards and more effectively construct decks for the format, to the point I actually love it now. Just wanted to let y'all know! ☺
@Matazuma2 жыл бұрын
They have great content
@Hyxtrem2 жыл бұрын
Elemental Bond is CRAZY in Ghired style decks; you draw too many cards but it's specific. I would rate Esper Sentinel and Sea Gate restoration in A. Esper sentinel is easy to remove, hard to pump for many decks so you can afford a pay 1 because it only affects the 1st casted non-creature spell each turn. I do like Sea Gate restoration, but that's so far behind the fish I don't see why it is rated this high. It's not a good card at top deck either.
@JerJoGo2 жыл бұрын
I play read the bones on my lathril elf tribal. Mana cost isn't too big a deal with typical green ramp and elves fairly low mana cost. If the mana is going to be spent to draw, it's a waste if you get 2 cards you don't need in the situation. So being able to scry and improve my odds of getting my gaming winning tutor, mana dork (priest/archdruid etc), or artifact (umbral Mantle/ staff of Dom) is worth it. Low b tier for me.
@dcdids20112 жыл бұрын
Huh, weird. I wast adjusting my deck to include more card draw just now and was about to look for a video on the topic. The nerds never fail to amaze me with their timing as I see this droped minutes ago. This is like the 3rd time that something like this has happend to me with their videos.
@davestier62472 жыл бұрын
They can also see that blue shirt you're wearing right now. They live in your phone.
@TopMuffin72 жыл бұрын
I feel like throwing guardian project and beast whisperer together kinda overlooks the clear advantage/risk of Guardian Project caring about etb instead of cast. Guardian project becomes insane once you care about flicker or doubling ETB with panharmonicon effects. However it’s riskier because counters blow you out and you never get the cards
@bububu__2 жыл бұрын
I don't play a lot of commander because I live in a small town and our playgroup is narrow, but I could listen to you guys talk about cards for days and days
@pattap9033 Жыл бұрын
would love to have part two of this. for example, what is Damnable pact, ancient craving, notion thief or deep analysis for you? there are so much card draws...
@dirtyfrench29262 жыл бұрын
List is missing (from what I own at least): Yawgmoth, mono green Selvala, Twilight Prophet, Grim Haruspex/Midnight Reaper, Erebos, Plumb the Forbidden, Fecundity, Glimpse of Nature, Primordial Sage/Soul of the Harvest, Greater Good, Secrets of the Dead, Monastery Siege, Verity Circle, Greed, all of the Monarch/Parley Mechanics and everything in white besides Esper Sentinel. I hope they (or you 2 if you see this) cover a few newer draw spells like Lethal Scheme, Seize the Spotlight, and a bunch of new white card draw too (like Aerial Extortionist/Smugglers Share).
@-HASH2 жыл бұрын
Love your videos ❤! Stinging Study with 5+ converted mana cost commanders could be B+ to A+. Personally I use it in my Karador Ghost Chieftain deck to draw 8 card for 5 mana/-8 life at instant speed.
@NitpickingNerds2 жыл бұрын
We love stinging study!
@BattleAxeRX2 жыл бұрын
I use it in my instants matter non blue 4c deck. Dune brood? (Cmd is 4mv)
@ominousanonymous2 жыл бұрын
Bolas's citadel is so good. I think I've won twice by using its tap ability. If you have sensei's divining top you can draw a card for one life, add an aetherflux reservoir and you can gain massive life.
@testaklese2 жыл бұрын
I think that people underestimate Vilis. He's insane on his own if you get him out normally, but if you can cast a reanimate on him, it's 1 mana, draw 8, and get a huge flyer that's gonna draw more cards than you can use.
@MagiconTap2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Esper Sentinel is insanely good... unless your opponents literally have (almost) no noncreature spells, which is what happened to me last night. I ended up just chump blocking with it. 🤦♀
@jamesgratz47712 жыл бұрын
Good. Serves you right for spamming a garbage overhyped staple
@NitpickingNerds2 жыл бұрын
That can happen!
@famousstranger84682 жыл бұрын
I had something similar but I used it in Black White party time and got it to a chunky 9/9 😅 nobody paid the 9
@MagiconTap2 жыл бұрын
@@famousstranger8468 Haha I'm not *that* mean
@alexrosser31722 жыл бұрын
Esper Sentinel > Mystic Remora. It has no cumulative upkeep & Blue has tons of card draw options. Plus as both an artifact & creature it an easy target for search & reanimation.
@loganrehbein76102 жыл бұрын
I play read the bones not due to budget but mostly for power level reasons. My play group had a high level competitive phase and now we're kinda over it so read the bones is just kinda fun and decent
@HokaMagic2 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised you didn't include Phyrexian Arena and Black Market Connections to rate on this list. I think I'd have Phyrexian Arena as D tier and Black Market Connections as B tier.
@cax11752 жыл бұрын
If you are including bolas' citadel, I would have included mystic forge
@-maki4462 жыл бұрын
No tymna the weaver? The best draw engine in the command zone?
@lysander32622 жыл бұрын
We don't talk about Bruno
@RevnaVarea2 жыл бұрын
Where's Kindred Discovery? Best tribal tribal card draw card. Draw cards on ETB instead of on cast, draw cards on attack instead of with combat damage. Every tribal deck with blue wants this, zombies, merfolk, fairies, rogues, horrors, wizards, spirits you name it!
@METROIDFAN2582 жыл бұрын
I agree with most of this list, but Great Henge being a tier above Sylvan Library is super sus 🤔
@BM-rd4ms2 жыл бұрын
I play read the bones in theme decks like worth boggart auntie. It feels goblinesque. Or a black inclusive theros deck.
@dreadgray782 жыл бұрын
What about kindred discovery!? Card can be bonkers in tribal decks or even cards that consistently generate a single type of token. Have drawn 30+ cards with it in my Ranar deck (it's not spirit tribal, he just makes a lot of spirits), same with Curiousity Crafter!
@lysander32622 жыл бұрын
B for Build Around. Nothing worse than dropping it on an empty board and then it just gets blown up a couple turns later. However if you have a board and drop it, you still need to attack. Whereas a Shamanic Revelation effect doesn't require the attack. Still, the ceiling is so high that it's probably worth the floor, and can be better than Coastal Piracy effects since you don't need to do damage. Pretty nuts in UB or UBW Zombies
@karlgrylls2406 Жыл бұрын
Why didn't get Windfall a mentioning? It's 3 mana for often 5cards or more.I want to put it in my 5c Deck, because often i ramp out and are left with max. 3 cards in hand. Additionally i have a Smothering Tithe in my deck which is bonkers with Windfall
@LVMTG2 жыл бұрын
These tier lists are always my favorites. However I’m ready for next shuffle/scuffle.
@NitpickingNerds2 жыл бұрын
So are we 😂
@drunkgerbil99622 жыл бұрын
DEFINITELY want part 2! I'd love to see more Tier lists or other video formats revisiting with what you both suggest rather than top of EDHREC.
@FuriousWojtek2 жыл бұрын
What do yall think of Phyrexian Arena? I run it in all of my black decks, and drawing 2 cards every turn is great, and who cares about losing 1 life.
@lysander32622 жыл бұрын
C for cuttable IMO. Arena scales with Turns as opposed to creatures, opponent spells, lands, etc. If your games have a lot of Turns, fire it up. But you may want to include some looting to ditch it when it's dead and not include too many more Upkeep draw things. Balance in all things. Cheers.
@JaimeAGB-pt4xl2 жыл бұрын
Very nice list ... As a request... maybe a tutorial video 9n how to use the Ss of S tier... Moxfield... would be a good idea 👍🏻
@jarrodalbers61272 жыл бұрын
Throw regal force into B tier with shamanic revelation. Caveat mono green decks
@campbellsmith4032 жыл бұрын
Wizards definitely did not play test with delve. Ancestral recall as a common is hilarious
@narkfly2 жыл бұрын
Love the new format of leaving the card up while you're talking about it. Solid work, gentlemen. 😉
@solovarious98642 жыл бұрын
I'd just like to recommend "Recurring Insight", as a potential card advantage option for blue.
@Basimilus2 жыл бұрын
what do you think about Inspired Tinkering as a budget Jeska's will? I like that you can play the cards EOT for next turn compared to jeskai's.
@kadynreynolds19632 жыл бұрын
You forgot Robe of the Archmagi, probably one of my favorite cards ever
@mantism.d.83632 жыл бұрын
I wasn't paying attention the whole time, but I saw no Consecrated Sphinx up there. Show me a play group that doesn't immediately start sweating when that thing comes down.
@NitpickingNerds2 жыл бұрын
We just used the most played ones
@mantism.d.83632 жыл бұрын
@@NitpickingNerds Ah, didn't realize. That makes sense. 👌
@winniebowser44472 жыл бұрын
Elemental Bond puts in the work in token/ETB decks like Miirym or Ghired. The ETB can have a high ceiling in the right deck
@jacobharris74142 жыл бұрын
I run it in my Omnath, Locus of Rage deck
@winniebowser44472 жыл бұрын
@@jacobharris7414 yesss such a good deck for it
@HomeCookinMTG2 жыл бұрын
I believe the idea behind Biden of thassa was because mono blue was a very aggressive deck in that standard format, so forcing your opponent to attack you and then bashing on the crack back with a bunch of elemental tokens from a master of waves was probably the thought process.
@davestier62472 жыл бұрын
Does Biden of Thassa tap to creepily touch people?
@jackle23452 жыл бұрын
Guardian project seems way overrated here and should be nowhere near the same tier as sylvan library. More often than not, it doesn't draw any more cards that harmonize and it is costed the same. The nontoken part really hurts it and I think Garruk's Uprising is better most of the time.
@MrDeeluv19962 жыл бұрын
Play project in a elfball deck, then make the assessment again
@dreamtoast15532 жыл бұрын
Elemental Bond would be Amazing in my upgraded Draconic Rage deck I’m building. With the commanders ability it would make for a lot of card draw. Will definitely have to add this card.
@Malverde8882 жыл бұрын
It’s cool with Dragon Broodmother
@dreamtoast15532 жыл бұрын
@@Malverde888 I picked up that card while I was at a LGS, I was new to magic at the time but I thought it looked cool and would be good in my Draconic Rage deck 😂
@Malverde8882 жыл бұрын
@@dreamtoast1553 yeah i had Vrondiss dragons/combo built and with the Devour tokens she would draw a lot with Bond.
@jigstraw28092 жыл бұрын
Rishkar and Wildspeaker are S-tier in my buddy's Omnath, Locus of Mana deck. He doesn't draw 6 or 7 off them. He usually draws anywhere between 20 and 50 XD also runs greater good/life's legacy/momentous fall/soul's majesty/garruk, primal hunter for more of the same type of draw. it's gross deck ramps out of control and gets a huge body in the process so they're basically auto-include.
@bulvoxzmt2 жыл бұрын
"Theft of Dreams" and "Necrologia" are my personal commander staples that always perform super well. Necropotence sucks ass in reanimation decks and Necrologia just reads "Set up your best possible hand and fill up your yard" for 5 mana.
@LVMTG2 жыл бұрын
Yes necrologia is a hidden gem.
@emerson6852 жыл бұрын
For sure! I love Necrologia! You nailed it with the graveyard point. I've been saying the same thing to my friends for years. It's like the Ad Nauseum for casual decks. If I'm casting it, I'm usually going to go off with a huge play using my graveyard the next turn.
@theroxenes2 жыл бұрын
Honorable mention to Moonlight Bargain as well IMO. The lack of timing restrictions is way less all-in and you get to pick and choose very freely, throw your graveyard stuff in the bin and draw everything else that you need.
@bulvoxzmt2 жыл бұрын
@@theroxenes That's not bad. Didn't see that one, nice.
@sandman29532 жыл бұрын
Hot take: elemental bond vs beast whisperer. Bond may be better! Bond is one less mana Bond is harder to remove as enchantment and not hit with board wipes Bond draws on etb not cast- I think that’s huge- all the below are draws for bond and not for beast Tap your godsire Get a generous gift or a beast within Crack your ancient idol for the big creature
@supernova862 жыл бұрын
Yeah, this was a big swing-anda-miss for them
@zackfro2 жыл бұрын
The reason we have so many S Tier cards is because cars draw is so powerful in a multiplayer 100 card singleton format. How nice is it when you have a full grip constantly?
@GONZUdAce112 жыл бұрын
Of all the cards analized only 1 red and 1 white. Every other color has broken card draw. Why can white have a spell that draws a card for every creature. Or red some impulse for every no combat damage dealt to a player. Wizards trying to fix the bad colors by giving them good cards at lesser rate than the others.
@ethanschulze5572 жыл бұрын
I’m surprised phyrexian arena wasn’t on this list. I feel like that is maybe the most controversial draw spell people play
@koolaiddude76858942 жыл бұрын
They have talked about it on other videos that they don't really like Phyrexian arena, and as I keep playing it I'm starting to agree with em. Just a bit too slow and relying on no answers for at least two full turns to get the same instant (and cheaper CMC) sign in blood effect. All that being said I still run Phyrexian arena AND sign in blood when I can 😂😂
@ethanschulze5572 жыл бұрын
@@koolaiddude7685894 see, I feel like the card is so slow that no one will ever remove it unless someone is going nuts with aura shards or something. I think if you can get it out turn 2-5 it’s probably going to do it’s job. After that it’s not good, but hopefully after that you’re already drawing cards. It’s definitely not as good as we pretended it was in like 2018
@servinwow Жыл бұрын
26:20 “There’s too much S tier. Speaking of which, here’s skull clamp” actually made me laugh
@lysander32622 жыл бұрын
Shouting out some real ones Sylvan Library- Raw advantage, smooth land draws, and setup topdeck effects Thought Monitor- The Artifact Mulldrifter. I want a secret lair alt where he is a happy boy. Azami, Lady of Scrolls- The secret Commander of every non-Azami Wizard deck Regal Force- The OG Elfball payoff. Don't give me that "it's an a X in your X deck". Listen to Wu Tang Financial, "...diversify your bonds..." Mentor of the Meek/Welcoming Vampire- makes Bitterblossom good(?) Hydroid Krasis- The Cast trigger is a pro and a con, but he scales stupidly well with cost reduction and bouncers Kiora, Behemoth Beckoner- Rarely gets attacked and provides consistent mana and gas Nezahal, Primal Tide(?)- Fisherfolk fear him, lovers want him. One lategame counterspell war and suddenly you're flush with cards Coveted Jewel- The most (B)uild Around card ever but 60% of the time you're slow flickering this thing every turn and no one can touch it Mystic Forge- The second best Future Sight effect after Citadel. Notion Thief-🌝
@dripz-zx6im2 жыл бұрын
I don’t typically comment, but I almost fell out of my seat when you poop teir’d read the bones. That card is awesome on any budget!
@DanZigs792 жыл бұрын
Elemental bond triggers off of tokens. It’s great in Koma or Omnath, Locus of rage.
@switchp82862 жыл бұрын
Some odd evaluations for sure. Drawing cards in general is a strong play. Building around cards like skullclamp or beast whisperer are obviously incredibly powerful, but comparing them to more broad unconditional cards like Harmonize isn't fair. My token deck wants skullclamp, my mono green stompy doesn't. Harmonize fits into both. For this tier list to even go below C tier I think you'd have to fill it out with some really bad draw spells. I mean you're comparing staples, so it only makes sense that even the "worst" cards would be C or above.
@Dskinny236 ай бұрын
I'm not saying it isn't awesome but i don't agree skullclamp is BROKEN. Your first draw is 2 mana plus sac a 1 mana minion. So 3 mana draw a card. You're even or down on card depending on how you created the minion. Second one is 2 mana on average from there on out. So until you cross into high procs it isn't that much better. 5 mana draw two sac two isn't wild.
@dougclendening58962 ай бұрын
Wow, you guys have really bad takes. And read the bones is good because it digs four deep. It lets you filter before you draw. The life is negligible. This easily makes the top 10 of card draw spell slots in black decks.
@Adjacent_22 жыл бұрын
Guardian Project and Harmonize are same CMC, Guardian Project needs you have 4 creatures enter the battlefield BEFORE it nets you +1 cards over Harmonize. In truth Harmonize is just on the whole a safer pick. Instantly gets you up cards, better top deck, not reliant on your gameplay
@SnuggyDabbins2 жыл бұрын
Love the videos! Don’t agree with most of your opinions but I enjoy seeing what casual players use these days. Guardian project is draw on etb beast whisperer is on cast. Project is better. Some of these choices are kinda goofy to me jeskas will is good but under preforms the better your deck gets. Rhystic study is arguably the best card draw in the format. sea gate restoration is just a land that lightning bolts you. Mdfc cards have their places and it isn’t in higher tier decks. Also dig through time and treasure cruise are kinda bad in commander. XD
@werothegreat2 жыл бұрын
If you're farting out 3/3 Beasts (which green does a lot), Elemental Bond is *way* better than GP/BW.
@gehtirgendwas2 жыл бұрын
In my Opinion, Jeskas Will, would put it in A-Tier because it makes only red mana and is less viable in multicolor Decks (4 and 5c/ 3c is debatable) because of that restriction. it is an insanely good staple, but compared to Bolas Citadel, Esper Sentinel and Rhystic Study a tiny bit less consistent.
@natelagrassa9337 Жыл бұрын
Y’all’s grading scale is whack!! Temur ascendency has won me so many games in my colorless animar deck. The ability to draw you deck, put it down for free, and attack with everything in the same turn is amazing. Sure it’s not good in a creatureless deck but half the draw engines y’all have up there all have stipulations or requirements. Just going to throw that out there.
@hiddenleaf414 Жыл бұрын
I’m confused how you guys graded Return of the Wilderspeaker and Rishkar’s Expertise off of “In the decks you put them in they are so powerful” yet you failed to see the same analysis with Elemental Bond. As someone who plays all of them in different decks, Elemental Bond draw a lot more cards in the decks that want it than the other 2.
@Holdentryshisbest2 жыл бұрын
In my opinion necropotence is garbage In black green decks I would 100% run harmonize over it. Necopotence is overrated and over played. The only deck that should play is black blue flash tribal. I played the card I played against the card it’s just an under performer.
@nzephier2 жыл бұрын
You forgot amber is card draw. When she walks all over the table, and spills drinks and cards, you'll have cards on the field you didn't have before, boom, card draw :D
@NitpickingNerds2 жыл бұрын
She wiped my board the other day when she laid down on everything I controlled!
@ConstanceMists2 жыл бұрын
Elemental Bond is crazy because it doesn’t have the nontoken restriction that guardian project has and obviously beast whisperer being a cast trigger means elemental bond can be nasty in specific decks. Particularly its been INSANE in Miirym but that commander is nutty in general
@superjakeyo75592 жыл бұрын
personally i’m going to say this, jeska’s will is B tier when it comes to card draw, 3 card for 3 mana is barely better than mulldrifter with the downside of you are basically forced to play those cards that turn, so interaction is forced and can be a dud. it’s an amazing card but when playing colors outside of mono red or red/white, maybe put it in a different slot than card draw
@jacobestrada13992 жыл бұрын
I actually think Bident of Thassa is better than Beast Whisperer. Draw spells that can be cast AFTER the creatures have been deployed tend to be stronger. Beast whisperer forecasts to your opponent that your about to start dropping creatures. Same problem applied to Guardian Project.
@pipsdontlie30312 жыл бұрын
Read the Bones is godly, it's basically 3 mana draw 3 with the scry and unlike cards like Study (which don't get me wrong, is still better) is immediate, you don't have to wait to get the value out of it. No nonsense draw=to the mana you paid is amazing.
@Andi_18872 жыл бұрын
As always I agree with most of it but putting Beast Whisperer and Guardian Project together feels weird to me. In my Volo, Guide to Monsters Deck is Beast Whisperer one of the best spells and Guardian Project does not work at all if Volo is out.
@titanlord20002 жыл бұрын
I think the read the bones and nights whisper effects are way better than given credit for. They aren't board dependant which is super important. Rishkars expertise and similar cards have a very very high ceiling but can be blown out by removal and are dead cards early game. Having consistant resources to me is better than having a few big dumb draw spells
@themojowire Жыл бұрын
Just want to chime in like others, seems a bit too hard on Harmonize and Read the Bones. I always feel underwhelmed when I slot them in a deck, but then when I play with them I tend to be pretty happy they're there. Even if I am running much more powerful draw.
@dartholiver2 жыл бұрын
Guardian Project is not the same as Beast Whisperer :D I have a Yarok Deck and removed Beast Whisperer cause it does not trigger Yarok. Guardian Project on the other hand will trigger twice.
@stevenswayze2 жыл бұрын
Toski should have had Orhan Frostfang and Keeper of Fables tied to it. Hydroid Krasis is sweet, Sphinx's revelation? speaking of Sphinxes....... hello!
@angelofsolitude79512 жыл бұрын
Commenting at start of video, but Guardian Project is better than Beast Whisperer and should be ranked higher imo, as it checks in etb, so you can get more versatile use. Also harder to remove.
@tommieboi7072 жыл бұрын
Garruks uprising is a staple in dragon decks. It is awesome in my ur dragon deck. Same with temur ascendancy. When you have big dumb dragons, those cards work really well.
@elil79452 жыл бұрын
I think that skullclamp should be A their and not s because it is extremely powerful, but when you look at S tier all of the card up there (besides great henge imo) are staples that can be thrown into almost any deck they’re allowed to be in whereas skull clamp require a little bit of set up
@fosterdawson73392 жыл бұрын
Skullclamp I still think you could throw into most decks simply bc it’s a bit of boardwipe protection in that you still draw, and you usually have 1 toughness guys that you could sac if needed. The cheapness for its effect is really strong. I do think it’s like somewhere in between A and S so I’d give it A+/S-
@tomwitty4652 жыл бұрын
Surprised not to see Kindred Discovery ranked here. Although I guess that's a basic "Good in tribal decks that can afford it, otherwise unplayable."
@JustRightPinedo2 жыл бұрын
Necropotence is so good I don’t play it bc it’s just not even a fair card. I often read it as BBB: win the game now or next turn. At least citadel costs 6 and can get stopped by land-land
@chelseacomer13632 жыл бұрын
Elemental bond is good cuz it draws off tokens. If your commander makes tokens with 3 power or greater (koma in my case) its good.. But beyond that you are right
@ToadimusPrime Жыл бұрын
I play all the budget cards from this list and none of the pricey ones. Citadel,Necropotence...none of that shit. Gimme by Read the Bones and Foreboding Fruit
@chandlermoses92002 жыл бұрын
Huh…based on this list it’s almost like….drawing cards is suuuuper sick and important. Makes ya think! (drawing cards is my fav thing to do lol)
@radlad37922 жыл бұрын
Out here dunking on read the bones... Shame! I enjoy read the bones and all those others y'all mentioned for black budget. Great vid regardless!
@leonfriedemann91512 жыл бұрын
I like read the bones. You get to look at possible 4 cards for 3mana. 🤔 Yes it's sorcery, but that's usually fine with me since I don't play cedh
@chrismcfallan8265 Жыл бұрын
I play Rishkar's expertise in my mono green omnath deck where it is so good I often forget I can cast a 5 cmc for free and still win. Huge on it in the right deck.
@Ddailey082 жыл бұрын
Guardian project is way better than beast whisperer, because it's etb not cast. Flicked, cheet into play, reanimated, all draw you cards unlike beast whisperer
@RubrDuky12 жыл бұрын
I feel Read the Bones should be D. It isn't 3 mana draw 2. It let's you ditch the trash on top of your library before drawing.
@trehenry4132 жыл бұрын
A big fan of Archmage Emeritus in Veyran. If i have Archmage + storm-kiln artist out, it can get out of hand quick.
@Attivian2 жыл бұрын
I've killed an opponent with Sign In Blood. They had 2 life and I asked them if they wanted to draw cards. They said yes and lols.
@burnsboy1012 жыл бұрын
If you build a spell-slinger deck do you only run instant and sorcery spells? If not that rating makes no sense should be at least with guardian
@joshholmes13722 жыл бұрын
Black has better card draw spells than read the bones imo. Like night's whisper and sign in blood. It's a budget and precon card.
@RecoveringSpartan Жыл бұрын
I can't tell if Weatherlight Compleated is good in Ghave (without infinite combos) or if it takes too long to turn on
@OckhamsChainsaw13379 ай бұрын
Wow, this was pointless. A random selection of draw spells where more than half of them are in the highest of six categories.
@jessesandburg2 жыл бұрын
I play Nights Whisper in my 1600$ lathril deck - read the bones for basically draw 2 is meh.
@vauk50812 жыл бұрын
I just built a $1.4k Braids, Arisen Nightmare deck, it has Read the Bones. It's a good card.
@guim3419 Жыл бұрын
The great hange is just poop unless you have a very specific style of deck. So I’ll put it inB or C
@kstandish422 жыл бұрын
Archmage Emeritus, thats a four mana doofus with a PHD. They’re a tenured professor after all 😤